F/A-18 Super Hornet: Amazing Turns without Thrust Vectoring

DtRockstar1 records the F/A-18 Super Hornet during a flying demonstration at the Battle Creek Field of Flight Air Show and Balloon Festival. It's amazing what this plane can do without thrust vectoring. You'll also see some 700 mph passes, as well as a heritage flight with the Navy's F4U Corsair.
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[@smithnwesson990]

That is one hell of an engineering job. That aircraft has amazing manueverability

[@bobojo37]

Yep, they basically sacrificed top speed for maneuverability with the wing design. They realized after Vietnam that almost no dogfights occur at supersonic speeds, and F4 Phantoms (with a Mach 2+ capability) were getting outturned and shot down by MiGs that could only just break the sound barrier. So the F-18 and F/A-18 only have a top speed of about 1.6-1.8 Mach, but can turn like much lighter aircraft.

[@cortney3280]

@@bobojo37 I mean f4 mostly won the dogfights but ok and the f18 is slow for fuel efficient you know carriers lol

[@danypostika5175]

@@bobojo37 yup, and basically they understood that there are barely any situations when mach 2.0+ speeds are useful, especially when it comes to carrier based aircrafts

[@neilmatthew27]

The most beautiful fighter jet in my book.

[@richardsandoval2899]

I love the little winglets under the fuselage. It has a cobra type silhouette to it. Not to mention the extra lift it gives besides the wings. What a beautiful design.

[@DtRockstar1]

It’s funny you mention that, because the prototype version of this plane was called the YF-17 Cobra. Only two were made. And I definitely agree, those wing extensions on the fuselage are what really set this plane apart.

[@michaelwalters7333]

Same here, like a Cobras Neck

Those winglets and probably most of the weight of this plane is at the rear makes it capable of doing a cobra maneuver. Theres avideo it doing 90 degree cobra maneuver.

[@Peanut_Dust]

it's called a wing-root glove, great for increasing stability at high angles of attack and low speeds (particularly useful for carrier ops)

[@bobthompson4319]

Those are also the reason why the the rudders are angled out.

[@BBBrasil]

Rhinos are an amazing piece of engineering, how they build the 18e/f from the 18c/d is just inspiring.

[@christopherpeninger324]

Watching a Corsair fly in formation with an F-18? Is LIFE GOALS! That F-18 needs a Black Sheep on it's tail now...

[@bbking0064]

Filmed like a rock star. Very well done!

[@DtRockstar1]

Thank you very much! 😎🤘

[@job9650]

Hehe bb king

[@jimmycarter2492]

The F18 F16 AND F15 are great birds of prey. Still love to see these birds with thrust vector , the way they are now their hard to beat , with vectoring don't think anything would beat them as old as they are.

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

Only the F-18, the F-15 has too little aspect ratio, isn't nearly as lifty as the flankers, and the F-16 is already a far too unstable airframe to have thrust vectoring. Even without thrust vectoring, the flanker is essentially dead even with the F-18C hornet in a pure 1v1 turn fight, with the flanker having the ede in the 2 circle and the F-18 having the edge in the 1 circle. The F-18 is the only plane here where thrust vectoring would benefit its turn performance.

[@ashokkumar3995]

Just imagine if the super hornet had thrust vectoring and super cruise abilities ....... this aircraft would have been amazing

[@yellow13_]

Ashok Kumar They had the thrust vectoring F-18 tested and decided it wasn’t worth it

[@tier1detailcompany]

Look up the HARV project

[@eugeniovincenzo1621]

Or they can build 2 planes instead of 1 and get a strategic advantage...

[@yellow13_]

Eugenio Vincenzo At double the cost, sure

[@thev-eh]

@@yellow13_ the F-18 HARV wasnt to see about adding it to the Hornet but was a test platform for collecting data.

[@ezompetti1]

I am so happy they moved forward with the Advanced Super Hornet. This is a incredible machine and more then capable of mixing it up with any fighter our adversaries have.

[@joshhall1310]

My two favorite aircrafts. Awesome

[@michaelstidham5957]

I wish they could upgrade the engines so that the hornet had the thrust of the F-15 E; that would be one hell of a fighter to face off against! Also, conformal fuel tanks would extend the range and maneuverability of the aircraft, since it could fly on longer range missions with a cleaner configuration.

[@Lane8492]

Last year on Father's Day a US Navy F/A-18E Super Hornet shot down a Syrian Arab Air Force Su-22 Fitter fighter bomber. The first aerial kill for the Super Hornet.

[@goodputin4324]

Proof?

[@valko022]

@@goodputin4324 Yeah It is True

[@yoyoyoyoshua]

@@goodputin4324 look it up lazy. There is a video of it.

[@SIoyvenheaven1T800m101]

@@goodputin4324 www.military.com/daily-news/2017/06/18/us-navy-fa18e-shoots-down-su22-over-syria.html

[@phased-arraych.9150]

An outstanding aircraft for sure.

[@exposingthedarknesswiththe9190]

*SIMPLY PUT, JUST AWESOME!!!*

[@samayers5784]

Great vid!

[@stevenpham1961]

Just as good as gripen. (IMEO). Although gripen has more wing area. The f18 bleeds energy extremely well, I've been told.

[@PasleyAviationPhotography]

Gripen: 320 square feet wing area Super Hornet: 500 square feet

[@user-iu3ym7ri9h]

@@PasleyAviationPhotography i think he said wing aera per kg

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

The F-18 actually rate fights incredible between 300-400 knots, it will stay inside any other gen 4s turn circle except the SU-27 flankers. If the hornet forces the flanker into a nose to nose fight, the flanker will lose however. The F-18 and SU-27 are the 2 top dogs when it comes to a dogfight

[@michaelgautreaux3168]

God, I love Bugs! W/a "Vapor Necklace" out off the LEX- gorgeous.

[@tuunaes]

Here's whole lot more of that LERX vortex condensation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oF6kfoObpb5ni7M

[@elijahglasser1421]

It's flying so good

[@draleigh8881]

1:12 check out the LEX vents in action

[@Liberty-Works1111]

This plane was the competitor to the F16 ... The Air Force went with the F16 & the Navy became very interested in a twin engine F18 fighter... The rest is history as they say... Most of the world really has no idea how capable & Dangerous this bird really is... Last mistake they will make...

[@bobthompson4319]

The navy wanted to twin engine aircraft and thats the reason why they looked at the F-17 and developed it into the f-18

[@Mr.CliffysWorld]

@@bobthompson4319 no no non. The F/A -18 Hornet and Sĺuper Hornet's are the twin engine version of the F-16 Fighting Falcon. That was their purpose from the beginning. While the F 17 is a totally different bird with different missions . Not evan the same air frame as a F-16 lol there never was an F17 that went into deployment . Their was an F-117A which is the stealth bomber (the Goblin) that flew night sorties and had no defensive weapons systems .

[@Mr.CliffysWorld]

The F/A -18 flew more sorties in dessert storm that any other aircraft in believe.

[@izanagisburden9465]

@@Mr.CliffysWorld wait what do you mean by twin engine version of f16? weren't they produced under different manufacturers? f16 by General dynamics and f/a-18 by northrop

[@happycanayjian1582]

@@Mr.CliffysWorld Good grief. You know there’s thing called Google that could help you figure out the proper development history of the F-16/YF-17/F/A-18.

[@niceboke]

Up to 90 degrees the speed and angle of attack seem similar to aircraft with thrust vectoring. Aircraft with thrust vectoring usually demonstrate tight turns for the full 180 degrees.

[@bobthompson4319]

And if you think its maneuverable then you should see what thrust vectoring really does.

[@williamkillingsworth2619]

Good camera work!

[@DtRockstar1]

Thank you so much!!

[@Corey_Nicholas]

Thrust vectoring and maneuverability will soon become irrelevant with the introduction of the AIM-9X and JHMCS

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

Maneuverability will never become irrelevant.

[@bumblequiz]

Terrific

[@mauimikeable]

Awesome footage! May I ask what type of camera you use?

[@DtRockstar1]

Thank you very much! I was using a Sony FDR-AX53.

[@ghylarson6359]

Great camera work. Your videos are superior! Tight zoom is not always the best shot and you have it down!

[@DtRockstar1]

Thank you so much!!

[@becausereasons9777]

How the fuck? That's magic!

[@jtrx753]

Imagine if the super hornet had thrust vectoring the maneuverability would be of the charts

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

It would be very very similar to the SU-35 in maneuverability. The non thrust vectoring flankers and F-18s are already very even in a dogfight.

[@tonyjones2742]

Great machine

[@leschroder7773]

According to the cod warzone m4a1 it has 4d vectoring nozzles its capable of flying backwards

[@upreydeen]

For those maneuvers also those engines are incredible powerful

[@crisantorivera14]

Sonic Wings!! I hope I see Keaton there.😂😂

[@shalomccs]

When the Navy high ranking officials from the pentagon saw the F-18 in a full combat demonstration some of them didn’t want to sell them to the allies nations because it was to dangerous. At the end they limited the quantity and sold them without all the advance computer system just the basic stuff.

[@hillaryisorena4283]

Really?

[@dankuettel5063]

Ahhh, makes me proud

[@edwincuentas3568]

I hope my country buy that amazing plane. I love F15 and super hornet

[@stealthtomcat4739]

What is f-18 instantaneous turn rate

[@estellemelodimitchell8259]

The Corsair probably struggled to keep up with the Super Hornet while for the latter it hardly break a sweat

[@iain8837]

Slightly suprised by the comments, it has a short capability for high AoA flight, maybe about 40 degrees, which lasts a few seconds. There are no turns with sustained high AoA like a 180 or a 360 turn. Those turns are on par with any other aircraft. The pilot seems to just have a series of short high alpha turns of no more than 90 degrees.

[@billybob6604]

TOP GUNNN

[@joebledsoe257]

There was one built with thrust vectoring capabilities. Strictly test bed for research purposes. Even had front canards, wait thats not the correct name for them, I forget what they were called. There was also an F1 with them also and canards again strictly research . I can only wonder how much of this went towards the F22.

[@crashburn3292]

2:45 That high speed pass must be around 580 to 600? I don't see that speed at most airshows.

[@DtRockstar1]

Actually 700! Just below the sound barrier.

[@415p7]

What's that thing comming out his wings?

[@Nick-vy2ms]

415p vapor

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

Hard point mounts for missiles.

[@bodasactra]

Although not as pronounced, this air frame needs very high speed to maneuver properly in a narrow dogfight combat envelope, much like its distant cousin the F-5. Wing loading and power are huge factors in this I expect. It is a beast in it's envelope, no doubt, and can carry a huge load. However, in air to air I would depend on it's long distance missile tech over its dogfight maneuver capability.

[@user-eg6tt4gy9n]

Если Вы действительно разбираетесь в истребителях, то скажите, какой из них самый маневренный : F-16, F-18 Hornet, F-18 Super Hornet, или какой то из советских истребителей, таких как Миг-29, или Су-27. Какой вообще самый маневренный? Мне было бы интересно узнать, спасибо

[@j_prince_67]

This is for anyone who wishes the f-14 was never retired. Sure it was good but was it this good?

[@Gsquared_08]

Sorry Blue Angels and Thunderbirds but the demo teams at air shows just put on a much more spectacular show. The manuvers and the sounds of the power plants you hear and feel are on a whole nother level.

[@TheStarzzguitar]

Had not seen one turn that well without thrust vectoring

[@Zoonjse]

The most beautiful birds in the sky. The USAF.

[@b.k6307]

Why not upgrade the super Hornets nozzles into thrust vectoring

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

Instability of the airframe, too expensive ect.

[@flashdancer42]

I don't know is it because the Finnish Air Force uses the Hornet or what, but to me that plane is just so nice looking.

[@FamilyCTSV]

Me on battlefield 4 trying to get that annoying dude off my ass.

[@joshm3484]

That alpha though

[@pranavghantasala6808]

Some guy on KZbin: Only Russian planes can perform Pugachev's cobra 0:44 F-18 pilot: what was that? I was busy doing Pugachev's cobra

[@a.g.rhithwik]

it was not a pugachev's cobra

[@kshitijsharma759]

It wasn't pugachev's cobra , in that the aircraft tilts further back and uses its aurface area to slow down the aircraft , I didn't see any thing like that

[@pranavghantasala6808]

@@kshitijsharma759 k

[@miroslavegorov]

Have u seen a Pugachevs cobra being performed 🤔... def not in this video!

[@pranavghantasala6808]

@@miroslavegorov Message received two replies ago, have a nice day

[@user-ct1nv1yb7n]

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[@alimohsin4667]

The Navy's spearhead 😈😎🇺🇸

[@DJEDzTV]

the old MiG-29 (Polish Air force) is also without thrust vectoring, but check out the vertical takeoffs on that. I mean its impressive but cmon

[@ado5182]

Maybe click on your head )? Two strategy of bilding aircrafts. And now watch old f15 150 kill mig29, mig 24, su27 and more others...lost... 1.... and said to me and so on...what give mig29 his strong sides if he lost 1972 bild f15 )))? Its nice see show but for real life you need somethink other amd yes...if mig29 take full armor for war..he dont do the same tricks ;) but f18 can do all what he show there ;)

[@DJEDzTV]

Armands M Well, if you study those downed MIGs-29’s and do some honest research, you would understand that they had no chance to survive. Most common reasons are: Migs old and short range radar and lack of proper service (Serbian MiGs in 1999), lack of pilot experience and flying hours (Iraqi example), compared to American ace pilots with enough hours under their belt.

[@DJEDzTV]

Armands M What I am trying to say is, if that MiGs gets a modern radar upgrade or gets in a close range dog fight, with a good and experiences pilot, I think it would dominate. You can disagree but you have to be honest with yourself first. Americans have the budget, the numbers and all the advantages in the World. Search for an interview of a german mig29 pilot on youtube, its worth a watch.

[@ado5182]

@@DJEDzTV Lol you see bild years? F15 1972 but mig29 1977 loool. Mig is much new bird...and he in real life lost in all positions :). In real life dogfight is very very small part. I private speak fith test pilot of su..mig 29...su 35...and he said some diff.thinks my boy :)))! Mig29 is good but with full weapons on board no longer as good at maneuvering :).

[@ado5182]

@@DJEDzTV Last mig29 upgrade 2013 mig26S last t15 upgrade f15C/D 1998... 15 years diff and still is the best... you said about f15 is very old bird :). Ok play woth your game...you said give new avionics for mig29 and he be better ok...give f15 or ok...gibe F14 tomcat trhust vecroring...and mig lost again... sorry but youmust watch real life and real situation. And remember not all pilot can fly good with mig29 and give a show only pilots sharply can do it with regular be in air shows. Americans in 90% sends for shows standart pilots. Or you think in real war mig29 pilots said f15 oi oi sorry stop...wait a some upgrades for me then start again? Ok? But now just take a smoking pause? 😂😂😂

[@sammeyer2653]

Holy shit he's pulling at least 7-8 g's on every one of those turns

[@elwingy]

Pretty sure he used the g limiter removal. That airframe would need some love and care after that amazing display

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

The plane was likely completely fine, NATOPs set a 7.5Gimit for all of their aircraft including the F-35. This is because naval operations require that the aircraft is easier to maintain out at sea, the F-18 can easily and safely hold 9 gs

[@elwingy]

@@toyotawitha20mm35 maybe it is fine. But remember that they do multiple displays not just one. So i really think the airframe does get abused more than usual. Have a great new year!

[@davidtodd1037]

As an American I believe the US has the best pilots in the world but I believe the Finnish Air Force puts on the best F-18 show there is. I believe US pilots are instructed not to perform some of the Finnish maneuvers due to safety reasons.

[@williampaz2092]

But I hope it DOES have thrust vectoring...

[@yoyoyoyoshua]

It doesn't. Doesn't need thrust vectoring.

[@_ace_defective_]

@@yoyoyoyoshua Yeah, what it could use though are more powerful engines.

[@yoyoyoyoshua]

@@_ace_defective_ it is getting a boost in power.

[@_flyingcat_7527]

Nasa made one with thrust vectoring wayy back in the day

[@Dawizard1985]

Top Gun Maverick brought me here.

[@lvr1028]

*Permission to buzz the tower*

[@clmco36]

Take that MIG buttboys!

[@Mr.CliffysWorld]

My money is STILL one the F-15 Eagle and the F-22 Raptor . I mean look at the raptor . You can tell by looking at it it jus WANTS to go FAST !!!!!

[@frankmmiii]

Fly it like you stole it.

[@bernhardwolf6172]

Flanker pisses its pants ´cause of laughing…

[@bradclark6478]

That is not thrust vectoring at all. Zilch.

[@DtRockstar1]

That's what the title says. ;)

[@imback3200]

it's the canards, chicks dig the canards

[@nicolasperalta962]

It isn't the F/A 18 Super Hornet It is the E/A 18 Growler

[@user-km6eq8cg5u]

F/A 18 obeys the laws of physics too much while performing maneuvers unlike the sukhoi family. Nothing in particular.

[@bop3752]

If you’re going slow enough to do any of your sukhoi’s special maneuvers then you’re just gonna get shitted on by beyond eye-sight missiles cause you just wasted all your energy.

[@phill5917]

@@bop3752 Flankers have off boresight capibility too don't forget that.

[@highamperage1]

Thats all you got? Go back to the drawing board!

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

You have something better?

[@suokkos]

@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again , Swiss hornet in 2019 Sion air show.