F. Chopin - Etude Op. 10 no. 6 in E flat minor - analysis - Greg Niemczuk's lecture

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[@walidkeyrouz2434]

It is difficult to conceive an elegy more severe and sober than this study. It's hard for me to accept its 'real' tempo (which is actually a shocking fact) because of the infinite number of times I've been listening to it at a "slow" tempo since I was a kid... I can say that I love it in any tempo.. Thank you for the analysis... you always carry interesting ideas within your description and analysis

[@gregniemczuk]

I respect and understand your words. Do listen to Murray Perahia please...

[@kakhigiorgadze8487]

first time heard this etude(in a slow tempo) I instantly got an image of a young man coming back to his homeland village, town or a city and finding it completely destroyed! as he walks he looks around the burned down buildings remembering the happy years spent in these place while it slowly fades away into suffering of war and destruction. This is probably one of my biggest fears. words will never be able to express such a mourning.

[@gregniemczuk]

So beautiful Kakhi! ....

[@maleph]

Beautiful, inspiring and touching. thank you.

[@joannawronska4100]

SO WONDERFUL AS ALWAYS, MAESTRO!!!!! Thank you for one of my favourite Chopin's Etudes in an excellent rendition and for your great analysis/tutorial, again my best regards, have a Happy New Year 2022. Joanna

[@bogdankolodziej2675]

Beautifully played on the piano panie Grzesiu!

[@annacerbara4257]

Beautiful lesson! Not all musicians know how to express in natural language, with words, the various meanings of a musical piece, and this, evoking a further art, interwoven with a small dose of theatricality. 👏 🎼🌿🌻

[@mickizurcher]

I love this Etude and your wonderful analysis of it. I’m going to read through it tomorrow for the first time. Inspiring!❤

[@adityagandhi5040]

Each video you post provides me with so much insight and knowledge. I love your videos so much, keep it up

[@gregniemczuk]

So good to hear that!

[@annihelling4763]

Thank you for opening my mind for this wonderful masterpiece. P.Helling

[@SpontaneityJD]

You gave me a new Chopin piece. Thank you so much. What a beautiful piece of music, highlighting the deepest feelings of Chopin. Great analysis -- it definitely should not be played too slowly❤

[@gregniemczuk]

Thank you! I'm happy to hear that!

[@callmeqt1269]

Greg I haven’t been this shocked in a while. Your explanation that Chopin wrote the accompaniment the way he did to keep you from cheating with the pedal really fascinates me. I usually do not like pieces without pedal - I don’t find them as moving usually - but Chopin’s genius allows it to be not as moving as with pedal but even more moving. Your analyses brought my eye to this brilliant technique in this etude and prelude no 13.

[@gregniemczuk]

Thank you so much! I was also shocked with this etude!

[@user-pc8hs7zy8c]

Deeply touching and confessing analysis !!! A unique sample of solid and absolute knowledge of the score and what is hidden "behind" the score !!! A composition, evidently created in depressive moments of the composer, making direct appeal to an overwhelming sorrow transmitted to you, Mo Niemczuk and your audience, also! The original tempo adopted by you, is to be regarded as "personal patent" of your own, despite any contemporary theory on the original "slower tempo" of music in the xix century. What you suggest, absolutely gives this "disregarded" Etude a new identity and consideration !!! I feel so grateful to you !!!

[@SynthWoof]

Thank you very much I love the original tempo you suggest, it makes so much more sense musically! This is one etude that I also didn't like when I was younger, but now find it to be one of my favorites. There really is nothing like Chopin!

[@gregniemczuk]

Thank you so much!! I totally agree

[@bryselsley45]

I wish to add a comment which I made in the Polish language version by mistake, regarding this really unique and beautiful study: I would just like to voice a thought about this remarkable and unique piece of music. I refer in particular to the fascinating "lilt" - if I may call it that - in the accompaniment of the left hand, and in part B of the right hand. When we look at the accompaniment figures typical of piano sonatas in the classical period we will invariably find them comprising the tonic, thirds and fifths, e.g. in c major that would be alternating between c, g and e the usual way. When I hear this beautiful study the accompaniment does none such thing - and really why should it, because the piece is a study and not a sonata. What I am aiming at is this: if you play the accompaniment notes of a classical sonata together, you have - in the above example - a c major chord. Now play the accompanying notes of just one bar of Chopin's Etude Op. 10, No. 6, together. I think you will find we have something that was used very many years later in music, namely what we today call a "cluster!" At any rate an endlessly fascinating piece of music!

[@tracywarnock7206]

Thank you so much!!......💔💔💔

[@stephstolzzzz]

First, pozdrawiam! Second, I would just like to say, thank you for your video and in depth analysis of this piece. As a pianist myself (who is also Polish :D) and as a student who has to analyze this piece for class, this analysis that you provided for us has literally helped me to really understand this piece in its entirety! Also, after watching your video, I cannot stand at all the slow tempos anymore :D Anyway, thank you so much for this video! Pozdrawiam i dziekuje! :)

[@gregniemczuk]

Ale Super!!!! I'm fulfilled reading such comments. Dziękuję!!! Powodzenia!

[@gulyuzkamolova2647]

Добрый вечер Мр. Грег,в сегодняшнем исполнении я узнала что левая рука несмотря что она аккомпонимент тоже помогла правому руку и в основном по-моему как показать этого Этюда, проста иногда я услышала как участвовала левая рука, All was greatest!

[@ler_47]

Wow!! From the very fist time I heard previous recordings of this piece I knew something was wrong. As it was too slow, it lost its true purpose as an etude. I loved Martha Goldstein's interpretation as it was slightly faster than all others. But this, now this is how the piece should be. The piece is alive, all of a sudden. Greg, This was really shocking!! The time you played it, I laughed as I didn't know what to make of it, but it made sense as you explained. This piece is one of the best ever!!! So Amazing!!

[@gregniemczuk]

YES!!!! But one has to be really brave to play it like this. At least I know that Chopin himself is backing me up as well!!! ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️

[@ler_47]

Couldn't agree more.👌🏽 Chopin is proud, I'm certain.

[@jfpary7336]

What a revelation! So humble and beautiful. Now I hate all those so slow versions too! How is it possible , and so many pianists are wrong. After hearing your rendition it's obviously the right tempo.... Thank you for that. You are wonderful. Your understanding of Chopin's music is amazing. Do you know a book about the etudes in french by Jean Pierre Marty : Vingt-quatre leçons avec Chopin( editions Singulières). It's a virtual ( of course) conversation between Chopin and one of his student about his etudes , a very interesting one. I don't know if it was translated in english. Greetings from France.

[@gregniemczuk]

Merci! No, I don't know this book but it sounds so interesting! Yes, probably ONLY great Murray Perahia was courageous enough to record this Etude in the tempo very close to the original. I strongly recommend this recording!

[@leoruitol7211]

What a revelation maestro. I certainly wasnt shocked, as I had never heard this etude before. At the start I thought the tempo was like a practice one. I only have one doubth maestro: Do you use the left pedal? And if its the case, How do you use it? Now I have deceided to study this piece for an exam, I really liked it, its so inmersive, and I want to make justice with history. Looking to make Chopin happy, jeje. Thank you a lot maestro for this ilustrating channel and such a valuable videos!

[@Taoufiqqaba]

this channel is treasure

[@gregniemczuk]

Sorry!!! I'm using Jan Ekier National Polish Edition!!

[@Taoufiqqaba]

@@gregniemczuk Thank you very much. much love from Morocco 🤍.

[@brianbuch1]

I tried playing at something like the listed tempo and my teacher was not pleased with it. She's old school (trained at the Franz Liszt academy in Budapest in the 40s). That said, the tempo does make it more challenging as an etude than the usual Adagio or Largo that even Cortot uses. I don't know if my way of playing the 3 sentences of the main melody makes sense, but the first time, I keep to the written P and even where it's marked F at the octave jump, I keep it restrained. Then the second time I open it up more, louder. After the b section, I use the una corda (My Bechstein's sweetest color) to make it seem more...distant...as if the suffering is somewhat past. Only at the brief foray into A in the coda do I let the una corda up for a brighter feeling. Many pianists don't play the 32nd notes in the repeated passages in the coda, but as 16th notes matching the bass figures. For me, the music almost comes to a stop 3 times with those notes pushing it back to life, each time more urgently. As to the various accents in the melody, I use them less as dynamic than as metrical markings. So where there's an accent, again at the octave jump in particular, I think of it more as a sign to delay that upper note slightly after the downbeat, not to just make it louder.

[@gregniemczuk]

Hi Brian. Yes, that's the problem.... And my open question is..why??? Because one or another pianist decided to record this piece in slower tempo everyone wants to play the same not respecting Chopin's score thinking that he was stupid.... I tried to convince the world that the singing line of this etude sounds much better in Chopin's tempo. But it's much more difficult to play. Well.... Every piece of Chopin sounds beautiful in slower tempo.... But should we played every piece slower? That's open question.

[@steffenbucher4243]

Thank you very much Greg for this once more marvelous analysis of this etude. Once more you prove your deep knowledge of and love to Chopin‘s music. Maybe you know that there is a study by Leopold Godowsky to this etude for the left hand, very difficult to play and even in a higher tempo, like you mentioned it in your video. If you are interested you find a recording by Marc-André Hamelin on KZbin. I am a enthustiastic viewer of your contributions to understand Chopin‘s unique compositions.

[@gregniemczuk]

Oh yes, I do know Godovsky! It's very interesting!

[@DMABEATS]

Where u find that original tempo or Mark by Chopin?

[@gregniemczuk]

In the Ekier National Polish Edition, but it's also in the manuscript

[@PedroStreicher]

I'm loving all the etudes analysis of course, as always, but i'm really shocked about this one, Op.10 No.6... I already like it before, in the slow tempo, but now it really makes so much more sense. I checked my score, and omg, amazing... Hahaha. I wonder how amazing would it be if someone play like this in the Chopin Competition.

[@gregniemczuk]

Indeed!! What would the jury say??

[@Mannometer]

Wonderful insight - what an underrated Etude! How beautiful it is - and your wonderful interpretation ⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@gregniemczuk]

Yes!!! Thank you!!!

[@haroldmaiz8597]

Apreciado Greg,soy de Venezuela,hablo polaco pero no lo escribo. Te FELICITO por Este Analisis. ABSOLUTAMENTE ME HAS CONVENCIDO. Pero asi la Segunda parte se vuelve Dificilisima por lo polifonico y armonico. No se que opinas de la Transcripción para la izquierda. de Godowski. Y muy interesante esa acotacion de que es POS Etude 12.

[@gregniemczuk]

Gracias!!! Si Godowsky es increíble. Y tempo es correcto!

[@PhilHarrison762]

Just out of interest, what speed does Chopin ask for? My Augener's Edition (1920s?) has dotted crotchet = 60 + "Andante". Shocked - Yes. Like it - Yes!

[@gregniemczuk]

Dotted crochet 69