F*ck pink noise… start mixes like this!

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Panorama Mixing & Mastering

Panorama Mixing & Mastering

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00:00 Intro
00:33 Foundations
05:34 Mix Bus
10:20 Building the mix
16:24 Manipulate tone/intention
20:46 Final thoughts
21:24 Secret for tomorrow (WATCH WHEN FINISHED DON'T SKIP)
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Hello, I'm Nicholas Di Lorenzo, Studio Owner, Mixing and Mastering engineer at Panorama Studios.
I'm an Italian-Australian born and raised in Melbourne. I've been a creative professional for 10 years managing some pretty awesome projects for artists, labels and producers all around the globe.
What motivates and drives me?
My family,
Good food,
Great coffee.
You can find me on many platforms:
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Kit: kit.co/Panorama_Mastering

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@tvdylan
@tvdylan 2 ай бұрын
i feel like you didnt really fully explain what you were doing in the first 5 minutes. i felt like it was more you looking at your plugins rather than explaining to us exactly what the science is of what your attmepting to do here.
@tribe60hz
@tribe60hz Ай бұрын
i totally agree. it felt like he was just talking to a peer and not explaining to someone who is new to this. and opening so many plugin windows without telling which plugin does what is a bit overwhelming
@tvdylan
@tvdylan Ай бұрын
@@tribe60hz yeah just a little more moment to moment explaining in simple terms would be helpfull, that way all levels can understand. all the best my friend !
@MLaudio20
@MLaudio20 2 ай бұрын
Great video and tips, but I got lost during the vocal leveling section as there was no explanation of what you where looking for in insight. Are you trying to hit the same -34db fundamental level for the vocals as you did with the bass and kick?
@boseyhad2doit2em
@boseyhad2doit2em 3 ай бұрын
Perfect approach. I hate to be this guy to but do you guys see how much he feels his movements and tries to engage to song settings. Such a good helpful way of actually getting a great mix. You’re performing too. Not just the artist 🔥
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I love the records I work on; part of mixing is pocketing YOURSELF as the engineer in the music.
@Baller-qe8sq
@Baller-qe8sq 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but i mean knowledge is more important, some guy just leaked audio school bass tricks look up alexmadeit thank me later
@DiegoFlores-sm5nx
@DiegoFlores-sm5nx 2 ай бұрын
Real talk 🤘🏼👨🏻‍🍳🌊
@danrourke
@danrourke 3 ай бұрын
As I’ve said, before, I’m a country guy, and what you do makes more sense than anything I deal with,country or pop engineers, that I’ve listened to. Thanks.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@Baller-qe8sq
@Baller-qe8sq 2 ай бұрын
For guitars use 2 compressors, 1 for peaks and 1 for overall even-ing out. Eq before and after to taste, some guy just leaked all this audio school knowledge look up alexmadeit thank me later
@AlexeyFayzulin
@AlexeyFayzulin 2 ай бұрын
Excellent. Gonna try to mix this way next time
@SkinnEmannProductions
@SkinnEmannProductions 3 ай бұрын
Yes! Thank you mate
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Anytime!
@timsarlos6403
@timsarlos6403 3 ай бұрын
I have a funny approach. I mix mostly metal and rock. I start with balancing the guitars with the overheads. Then Snare and Room und after that I readjusted my guitar cymbal balance. Now I bring the kick in and add the bass. Last but not least all the little things. Vocals go in last. That’s my way 😂
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
I struggle with mixing metal.... LIKE REALLY REALLY STRUGGLE... if this works for you; THEN FUCK YES!
@audionerdlilcuz
@audionerdlilcuz 3 ай бұрын
Bro, straight up, you and 3 others I watch here are the best! I can tell you all love what you do because I pick up what's relayed INSTANTLY! I never have to ask a question. It's like boom ok I didn't know I needed to improve here, write it down now 😅📝
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Amazing! Who are the 3 others!? I want to make sure I'm subbed.
@audionerdlilcuz
@audionerdlilcuz 3 ай бұрын
Matthew Weiss, Marc Daniel Nelson, and Joe Carrell @@panorama_mastering. I learned about them in a Discord a few months ago. You guys are the best on YT, there's no other competition.
@audionerdlilcuz
@audionerdlilcuz 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering Matthew Weiss, Marc Daniel Nelson, and Joe Carrell. I stumbled upon them mentioned in a discord chat few months ago. I’m a reborn newbie and have earlier credits too but it doesn’t mean I should stop learning. 🍻
@Baller-qe8sq
@Baller-qe8sq 2 ай бұрын
All he showed is a clipper man theres obv more tools, some guy just leaked audio school bass tricks look up alexmadeit, thank me later
@ryanboyce3365
@ryanboyce3365 2 ай бұрын
Great channel, great info, and great accent! Thank you.
@Motiv8Me855
@Motiv8Me855 3 ай бұрын
You doing an incredible work to teaching us thank u so much
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@richertz
@richertz 3 ай бұрын
Thank you again for your words of wisdom.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
You are so welcome
@cuznbedrock
@cuznbedrock 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! This has helped me TREMENDOUSLY!!! Please keep up the good work!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
No worries! My pleasure!
@Baller-qe8sq
@Baller-qe8sq 2 ай бұрын
Hey man i got something else that’ll save you some time, this guy is leaking real audio school bass tricks look up alexmadeit thank me later
@marxcyrus4480
@marxcyrus4480 3 ай бұрын
This is gold!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@dirkbrouns5293
@dirkbrouns5293 3 ай бұрын
Been mixing for quite some time myself - this is actually an approach I was not aware off - really well explained, thanks man!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
my pleasure!
@audioedges
@audioedges 3 ай бұрын
One of my fave channels. Great video brother!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@jbva804
@jbva804 3 ай бұрын
Oooh! Sounds good and feels good as well!🔉🔉
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@DJSoulbrother
@DJSoulbrother 2 ай бұрын
Great little tune
@danielwetzel7777
@danielwetzel7777 2 ай бұрын
You do such a great job
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@300Spartan03
@300Spartan03 3 ай бұрын
I never really thought of mixing like that, i usually just try to balance all my sub groups with themselves, then with each other and go from there. SUBBED
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Let me know how you go trying this;
@adamsmith7058
@adamsmith7058 3 ай бұрын
Nice bit of late seventies/early eighties style boogie there.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Boogie woogie!
@marcusgarveyson
@marcusgarveyson 3 ай бұрын
Great video love this one
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
@OptomodMix
@OptomodMix 3 ай бұрын
Ripper mate! One of the best practicle demos unmasked, a great recording always helps. Cheers from over the deetch 🤠
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@huberttorzewski
@huberttorzewski 3 ай бұрын
Clever! I like the song a lot
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Thanks man, me too!
@synthzizer3324
@synthzizer3324 2 ай бұрын
I use full digital ceiling to mix to. No processing on the master. Major elements wave peaks are at -6 to -7 with mix faders at zero. Works perfectly.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Yes mate!
@Baller-qe8sq
@Baller-qe8sq 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but i mean knowledge is more important, these are just levels and clippers guys 😭 theres obv more tools, some guy just leaked audio school bass tricks look up alexmadeit thank me later
@EzraExan
@EzraExan 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I've tried setting levels with pink noise but it never worked out for me, especially in regards to my low end. Can you also do a similar video on this but for Instrumental Tracks, without Vocals? Do you think it's a good idea to master instrumentals without vocals because I noticed the low end in my mix is usually loud and distorted? I also noticed the vocals were a bit high over the drums and bass I found that very interesting, I would also love to see a video on how to set vocals in a mix!
@DaftFader
@DaftFader 3 ай бұрын
Dam, what a funky af bassline!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Super funky
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile Ай бұрын
I always start with the vocals, if there are vocals. Nothing but the vocals and I don’t move on until I’ve done all my automation and editing. Definitely no low frequencies.
@dial_up_romance
@dial_up_romance 2 ай бұрын
i like this settings on the SIR clipper as well. it's basically low-level compression, except you can limiter/clip instead of compress once you pass the threshold. so useful.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
spot on!
@Baller-qe8sq
@Baller-qe8sq 2 ай бұрын
Its 2 whole seperate things that the best engineers use together, if you want more comprehensive and direct tools and tricks look up alexmadeit, thank me later
@adamsmith7058
@adamsmith7058 3 ай бұрын
I've always started with bass/drums and their balance, then bought in the vocals/lead instruments followed by main accompaniment instruments like keys/guitars etc, then mixed all the stuff like pads, vocal harmonies, etc. This may may vary with the addition of orchestral instruments or unusual arrangements, but this has always seemed like the commonsense approach to most mixes. Get a balance of these main components first and foremost, then bring in dynamics and eq etc. Not gonna say it's always easy. However, this approach saves a lot of confusion.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Good share!
@JamieFerguson.
@JamieFerguson. 2 ай бұрын
When your finding the fundamentals of the bass, do you do repeat this with the every layer, for example if you have a top bass, mid bass, and sub bass? Or do you just before this on the bass bus?
@americanantagon1st
@americanantagon1st 3 ай бұрын
These tips reminds me of how I started rethinking my mixing process, after using Ayaic plugins. I now mix to noise ceilings and make eq adjustments based on the latter. At first, I thought that it was cheesy, but I also use plugins to adjust similar volume levels for instruments in my mix. Cool to see this done manually.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Banging! On the Kwaku tunes too!?
@americanantagon1st
@americanantagon1st 3 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering , Yes. I started off rough, Dec 2022 using this technique. lol Recently, I've gotten much better and I'm beginning to memorize LUFS levels, but noise ceilings vary, based on instruments and overall song feel. I've learned that mixes and vocals typically follow the same -4.5 noise ceiling, which is darker than Pink Noise and this results to me getting much more consistencies in my mixes and more use of my analog hardware.
@alexcosenza4228
@alexcosenza4228 3 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for a full mixing video from you! This is a great start to that!!!! Could you maybe release a new template soon??
@alexcosenza4228
@alexcosenza4228 3 ай бұрын
ALSO HELL YESSSS TO THE SPREADSHEET!!!!!!!!!!!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
I will! SOON enough!
@Madkay
@Madkay 2 ай бұрын
Pure gold, I've tested on my recently project. WOW, sub fit perfect.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@Madkay
@Madkay 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering On headphones sound can be tricky with that technique but on speakers 🤝 magic happening 🔥
@Baller-qe8sq
@Baller-qe8sq 2 ай бұрын
@@Madkayall he showed is clippers man theres this guy leaking real audio school bass tricks, look up alexmadeit thank me later
@michalgil4151
@michalgil4151 3 ай бұрын
Nice one. Any chance you could show somewhere in the future masterbus with Karzog Kclip3 or Flatline. Just wondering how you would apply the same chain of thought to an alternative clipper.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
I can try!
@BukanIbuMu
@BukanIbuMu 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for telling the truth about pink noise mixing
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
No sweat!
@Rhuggins
@Rhuggins 3 ай бұрын
My brother, I know your grinding your ass off. The volume speaks for itself. I want to thank you though, this is great content right here
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@this_is_jmdub
@this_is_jmdub 3 ай бұрын
this is so funny.. I did this years ago just out of a feeling. Thank you for reminding me of it
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
No sweat!
@konstantinos777
@konstantinos777 3 ай бұрын
Pink noise is dated and is now only suitable for certain genres, like folk, country, rock, music with much high end detail and not much low end. Brown noise is good for more bass heavy stuff and classic style hip hop. What you need, is the in-between, which is -4.5 dB/octave. This is the modern general purpose go-to for most contemporary music. When I say "go-to", I mean you are also targeting this noise level more or less without even knowing it. It is contained inside iZotope's Tonal Balance Control curves, in all contemporary music presets. Give it a try, as a test if you want. I can guarantee you will be surprised. But you don't just go hit numbers, unless you have to. But do it your own way, with the VCA faders, with the EQ, with harmonics, whatever you want, shape the mix to follow this noise level as close as possible, with the necessary cuts or low shelves at the highs and lows.
@TakeHit0
@TakeHit0 3 ай бұрын
Or you can skip all the useless nonsense and just learn to mix with your ears 😊
@konstantinos777
@konstantinos777 3 ай бұрын
@@TakeHit0Yeah, I was expecting that, so I already have my answer: I am not going to restrict myself because someone says so, I don't even care who. I will even use my dick if it helps 😄
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Interesting take; the thing none of these profiles take into consideration is the unique structure of different sounds and how they sum/difference together based on their relative sound design and arrangement. which creates a MAJOR impact on the tone of a record;
@konstantinos777
@konstantinos777 3 ай бұрын
@@panorama_masteringThey don't, but you don't have to be precise, just be inside the margin and then it's up to you and your taste. The overall profile of the song needs to match, not small parts of it, so we're going for the whole signature. This is exactly what the iZotope plugin is based on, they have analyzed millions of "hit" profiles and found the pattern. What I am adding to the mix is, try to hit the -4.5 dB/oct, not exactly, but averaging. This is not the right way, or wrong way, it's a shortcut (to me at least) and shortcuts are good.
@alphabetsoup002
@alphabetsoup002 2 ай бұрын
When you bump up your instrument VCAs (eg vGTR), aren’t you also increasing the amount of PP you’re doing? Or are your parallel sends pre-fader? Also, it may not apply on this particular mix, but it appears almost every channel goes straight to your mixbus and not via sub groups (eg food groups like drum bus, bass bus etc). Is it your preference to mix that way?
@ronallen2458
@ronallen2458 2 ай бұрын
What an absolutely stellar video. You have made some great ones, but this is hall-of-fame material. It’s DAW agnostic and absolutely fundamental. Thank you.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
@Baller-qe8sq
@Baller-qe8sq 2 ай бұрын
Some guy just leaked real audio school bass tricks look up alexmadeit thank me later
@drumbyte
@drumbyte Ай бұрын
Each guitar element grooved nicely when isolated with the drums, bass & vocals. But when all put together it eliminated the space, which is where the groove lives. In short, less guitars are more.
@MoveTrueRecords_
@MoveTrueRecords_ 2 ай бұрын
Hi Thank you for all your great content boss. I have a question on levels. Are there any standard levels to use when mixing from scratch and is it best to use faders for depth and balance after gain or trim? Thank you
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
In the digital domain. Not necessarily, especially in 32 bit. However having a linked VCA makes it simple and essy to adjust overall mix channel gain going into mix bus.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Best to use faders after gain/trims
@MoveTrueRecords_
@MoveTrueRecords_ 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_masteringThank you so much!!!!
@MoveTrueRecords_
@MoveTrueRecords_ 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_masteringI started reading Bob Kats book and i been working with K-20 in my bed room lol im able to achieve loudness so easy its werid. Is the K system a good method for mixing levels? Thats what i been compiling in my head. i trim to k20 and then use faders is that a good idea?
@SteveGietz
@SteveGietz 3 ай бұрын
Sorry if this has been asked/answered before ... Is that automation on the send level to optionally duck the signal for your standard 4-on-the-floor groove? As always, thanks for sharing!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Oh that's for a whacky reverb effect from the final mix; ignore that;
@MattGarwood777
@MattGarwood777 3 ай бұрын
awesome. question: how do you determine the fundamental of a moving, dynamic vocal? pick the loudest section of a verse maybe? chorus? lowest/most used pitch? Thanks in advance man - learning a lot
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Lowest pitch that crosses with bass line
@STyonk
@STyonk 2 ай бұрын
Could we push into the Clipper with the Input of StandardClip instead of the VCA fader to achieve similar results?
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Of course! But I prefer using the vca so if I ever want to take the clipper off, everything is gain staged into the channel
@bitambassador
@bitambassador 2 ай бұрын
Broo, thanks for your vids! Need such a tutorial about balancing hip-hop mixes with huge 808 rapping vocals and kicks, how to do such a hihats but not cuting ears) and how we reach with all that balance to -7lufs😊
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Just got sent the stems for something like this last week!!! Post-release might if the client let's us use it; YOU'RE ON!
@walshythemusician
@walshythemusician 2 ай бұрын
Great video. When you are setting the levels of the kick/bass/vocal at the start, is this done after you have already applied clip gain/volume automation to those elements to even them out? If you're working with live drums for example, the kick level will vary throughout the performance so I assume you would need to get the kick level consistent first and then go to the "main section"/chorus to set the levels of the kick/bass/vocal using the technique you show here. Also, if you are using other plugins on the mix bus (eg compressor, tape machine etc), I assume the clipper would have to go after all the those plugins and you would need to make sure that the signal leaving those plugins is still at about -6 when it hits the clipper, correct? Thanks!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Post all edits and cleaning up! Correct :) RE: mix bus, nope clipper upfront :)
@walshythemusician
@walshythemusician 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering thanks! The videos have been really helpful lately.
@Vibratzia
@Vibratzia Ай бұрын
First of all, I love your content. It’s gold! Second, 7:11 the soft clip is on the master channel?
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering Ай бұрын
Softclip @0% means there’s mo transfer clip and just hard clipping
@ProdbyYarosT
@ProdbyYarosT Ай бұрын
You ar the fkng GOAT Bro!!!!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering Ай бұрын
Thanks m808
@beatskool101
@beatskool101 2 ай бұрын
I've tried the Pink noise for starters, then I heard about a 4.5db tilt, tried to figure out how to get it, then figured out that the yellow line in Pro-Q3 is a 4.5db tilt(I think, not sure) So just played whackamole against that line, seems to work...Is that correct?
@Notinserviceij
@Notinserviceij 3 ай бұрын
Ah nice im from Melbourne too
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Wominjeka!
@Notinserviceij
@Notinserviceij 2 ай бұрын
@panorama_mastering deffs gonna play around with this, just now started getting back into Mixing after about a 5 year hiatus I do agree with the kick bass and vocal being the foundation Also will be useful to try and match the fundamentals rather than just pushing faders till I think it sounds right (alot of things including my shitty apartment room can effect that) Earned a subscriber thank
@justinhoffman1111
@justinhoffman1111 3 ай бұрын
Another great video! I never understood that whole mix to noise "YT" tip- maybe it can get you a balanced mix but now what? how do you take it to a "Polished" Finish. Getting a great balance is like the very bre minimum and if you cant do that using your ears and know how, then how would you take it to the next level. Also to point out that even if you are just starting out taking the easy way to get a balance without understanding why or how, puts you at a disadvantage in the long run. but just my 2cents.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! Good points!
@Madkay
@Madkay 2 ай бұрын
Bravo for the title, made my day🤣 I haven't watched to the end yet, but what I have seen.... Hats off. Is it possible to make content about high pass filter and phase? Suddenly everyone is saying it can't be used 🤣 what a heck?
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
YES! I have already! ~ kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3LbnHaen7J8mdE
@neuroxik
@neuroxik 3 ай бұрын
Apart the insane kick/bass and the performance/groove and amazing vocals --- first thing I noticed is how the high frequencies in vocals are so clear yet no harshness, just sounds so open and in your face. What's going on with that? If all my female vocals could be this way. What mic? Altho you can make any mic sound good, but mostly, what's, even if just a small tip: eq, did you boost highs and then add soothe or what happened, etc. Any advice... like a video just to get those vocals would be worth gold
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
I can take you through the vocal chain in another video! ~ kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKqWnoJqhbNkj6ssi=-810nf89vTm5atRc
@neuroxik
@neuroxik 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering Wow thanks!
@daze158
@daze158 2 ай бұрын
I have yet to see someone do a good reverb tutorial how it all comes together. Can you please make a lenghthy video on reverb Thx
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Go check out Matthew Weiss mixing with reverb course!
@thomandymedia
@thomandymedia 3 ай бұрын
Im curious about a thing. Should l bounce to audio before mixing for clippers and limiters to work better? Cant seam to find anything about this:)
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Signal is signal; the clippers and limiters will work all the same if the signal hitting it is the same; it's indiscriminate if the audio is bounced or not.
@thomandymedia
@thomandymedia 2 ай бұрын
Ok, thank you. Appreciate it:)
@S7V7N_SEAS
@S7V7N_SEAS 3 ай бұрын
Have you ever seen the COS PRO EQ (Ceiling of Sound)? It uses noise profiles for eq and balancing it’s pretty amazing specifically for people learning to eq.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
No i haven't, link me!
@S7V7N_SEAS
@S7V7N_SEAS 3 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4mac6yvjNiJapIsi=sbDn8dLIwzW-1xVB
@S7V7N_SEAS
@S7V7N_SEAS 3 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4TKYWBqZ7inpZosi=RKy7xyqe-7YnF-Ic
@S7V7N_SEAS
@S7V7N_SEAS 3 ай бұрын
@@panorama_masteringthe company is called AYAIC. You can use COS PRO in conjunction with Mix Monolith to gainstage and the EQ. The creator is a genius and for beginners this combo is killer.
@djvoid1
@djvoid1 3 ай бұрын
I dunno if I'd recommend it for a beginner as it's pretty hard to wrap your head around, but it's pretty intriguing.
@SwimnBird
@SwimnBird 3 ай бұрын
At the start you are leveling the vocals drums and bass by their fundamentals to a similar db?
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
correct!
@MortenAndersen-hjemmesider
@MortenAndersen-hjemmesider 3 ай бұрын
Are the snare fundamental at the same level as kick, bass and vocal?
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
No, I'm pretty indiscriminate with where I set that;
@fluffboxmusic
@fluffboxmusic 3 ай бұрын
Best mixing/mastering tutorials on KZbin ! If you ever come up with a full course I’d definitely sign up. Would love to study your whole process
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
No sweat; currently planning a start-to-end mastering walkthrough/masterclass.
@nathanjudd23
@nathanjudd23 2 ай бұрын
14:55 he reveals the secret to getting any guitar to be perfectly mixed
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
I just went into the edit and unmuted the mic; I'm saying, "very soft monitoring right now" ... that is the secret!
@musicproduction-me3ci
@musicproduction-me3ci 3 ай бұрын
Dear cosmic lord, I have actually tried this now and something clicked in my head, something that was virgin for so many years. I feel like Adam after tasting the fruit of knowledge.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Happy to hear!
@TylerWaveBeats
@TylerWaveBeats 2 ай бұрын
By any chance you will have a walk through about your mixing temp? How about mastering temp?
@Hive5ive
@Hive5ive 2 ай бұрын
Can I use any spectrum analyzer for this?
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Yeap. I used to use insight before I got infrasonic. Actually I think TDR has a free version of their spectum analyzer too!
@Hive5ive
@Hive5ive 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering awesome. Now this might sound dumb, and I'm not sure you mentioned this or not, but is this after mixing the 3 individual elements? Cause the vocal and bass definitely sounded mixed to me. Just wondering.
@anteupbeats
@anteupbeats 3 ай бұрын
How would you approach working with a 2 track?
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
No clue! It's been YEARS (Literally like 5 years) since a 2track and vocals has hit my desk. When it does, I'll share it with y'all though!
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283 3 ай бұрын
I love this tittle xD
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
me too!
@monkmusic5994
@monkmusic5994 14 күн бұрын
Nick, you are the most generous pro on youtube. However, please do not burnout for us.
@chris_share
@chris_share 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! You didn't really explain how you set the vocal level or what you were looking for with Insight. Could you explain this a bit more? Cheers!
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Getting the fundemental of the vocals to cross over with equal energy to the upper notes/harmonics of the bass line in the same register.
@chris_share
@chris_share 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering Thanks!
@DaveChips
@DaveChips 3 ай бұрын
Waiting for that marketing part 😅😁
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
haha yes! starting notes for it now!
@victortironi3814
@victortironi3814 3 ай бұрын
fuck gain-staging, I'm gain-maxxing
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Nice!
@jinxypoes1
@jinxypoes1 3 ай бұрын
i would never put a clipper in the mixstage,if you set your levels higher by accident your signal will be distorted and chanse of loosing transients,my opinion ofcourse
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
That's why I DO put a clipper; so I can hear it crunch up; I've always got the VCA to control;
@lilwombat
@lilwombat 3 ай бұрын
I think i heard of pink noise mixing years ago and was like that sounds stupid and heard some one demo it and was like no thanks 😂 it just seemed strange to mix just to have things audible and not for how it feels which is the thing that matters most imo
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
spot on!
@WilliamAshleyOnline
@WilliamAshleyOnline 2 ай бұрын
Yeah the vocal was high for my ears that bass guitar lick was stronger than the vocal probably should have showcased it more in the mix.
@georgek3627
@georgek3627 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t really understood, did you just matched fundamental of kick to fundamental in bass by volume?
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Correct
@georgek3627
@georgek3627 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering thank you
@bavingeter423
@bavingeter423 3 ай бұрын
I think the pink noise trick still has value as a sort of “last resort” if you really have no clue of where to begin or no reference point…but it’s not great
@TakeHit0
@TakeHit0 3 ай бұрын
If you have no idea where to begin it means you're a beginner. So just fk the track up and learn from there. You can't expect good mixes as a beginner anyway.
@pouyab9952
@pouyab9952 3 ай бұрын
Does he have a clipper first in his chain?
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Yes i do!
@DerekPower
@DerekPower 3 ай бұрын
Nice to know you and Paul [Third] are still friends ;) =] In all seriousness, I enjoy what you do/make/offer/provide. Keep up a good thing =]
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
YES! Of course, Paul is a champion! Thanks, will do!
@espenstoro
@espenstoro 3 ай бұрын
The mental image of a mixing engineer playing pink noise over the speakers with the band in studio looking confused... 🤣 If it was such a perfect method, you'd think the top guys would have started doing it by now.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
It's awesome isn't it!
@tomtubby
@tomtubby 3 ай бұрын
"Silly pink noise is for flat earthers." The moment you've got me.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
truth is the truth
@EdokLock
@EdokLock 3 ай бұрын
What about the Vocal Rider video ? 👀
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Getting around to it! Too many to do !
@EdokLock
@EdokLock 2 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering 🌷
@Maskaradas
@Maskaradas 3 ай бұрын
You misters seem to talk about phase, findamentals, etc. Other books or videos I look at, they are so generalized, shallow in these topics. Seems like it's hardy dardy to learn something new. I wanna learn from the same sources please! 😂
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Will have to expand more on the topic of phase in future videos!
@DaftFader
@DaftFader 3 ай бұрын
Technically it would be the white noisers that are like flat earthers.... 🤣👍
@bigboss-qv7pe
@bigboss-qv7pe 3 ай бұрын
Mixing with pink noise is like going bowling with the side rails...
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Good one!
@BurningBushPedagogy
@BurningBushPedagogy 2 ай бұрын
I have avoided of 20 something of your videos, you get too geeky too nerdy most times, but let me see this, interesting title
@LeGaLdeadparliament
@LeGaLdeadparliament 2 ай бұрын
7:11 don't listen to this vid part out of context plz.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
Trying to record a beat!
@americatunedright1211
@americatunedright1211 3 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍🏼. But, pink noise method is for the mundane not the exception, let them be, you’re too young to be acting so old. Whyy you little!! 👴🏽 You could’ve did all this with the rant. Great video overall.
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 3 ай бұрын
Hey Thanks man! Appreciate you watching.
@NoelWatson-kg9qh
@NoelWatson-kg9qh 2 ай бұрын
spoken like a man who has never met a flat earther. Smartest people here.
@BurningBushPedagogy
@BurningBushPedagogy 2 ай бұрын
dont laugh at Flat Earth when never really researched it YOUR OWN SELF, Even NASA uses Flat Earth Model in practical use, you probably dont know that. Maybe NASA are dumn too. The gov lie in books and get you all drinking it. KZbin has hidden all the real videos that shows the truth and show the ones that mock the Idea. Their are long distance photography over 30 miles showing things that curvature of Earth should hav covered. See I told you a practical thing like the taking of photos and what is found. Not some scientific mathematical complex equation. Water does not bend water does not curve, never gravity or nothing can cause water to curve its always level. horizon always level no matter how many miles. I just told you natural realities. Even Pilots use a FLAT EARTH Non Rotating PLANE to fly Airplane flying over a PLANE; They lied to us big time. Dont worry this truth will come out mainstream media is hiding the real videos and revelation. Their are video I will tell you about that you wont see but yet in KZbin. So why if the Earth is square who does it hurt. Flat Earth will exposed what they are hiding in Antarctica and many other things is why. Even the UN logo is the Flat Earth in case you dont know. The Earth in the air fkying spinning round its actually stable yes on the rground while other celestial bodies are in the sky. You might know the lying mainstream says Earth is Spinning and Flying like right now at the speed of guess what 666 thoousand miles per hour, hmmmmm is that not creepy 666 these are satan worshipper of the sun hence they tell you Earth moving around the sun at 666 K miles and du m people cant know becauqe they government cant lie. And of you really think when a boat that goes out of sight after moving away from you, disappeared because it has gone over the curve of water and water covering it from view Shock you to wake up. bring out your camera or anything to zoom, you will see the same boat. So if it has gone over a curved water the zooming with not reveal it as still on the surface. simple practical things, no need to go and read in some books what you can perceive. And I am not an expert at all is just research, I can imagine all my comment before me too mocking flat Earther because everybody does. its all there that The Earth is not a ball round and spinning and also flying so fast 666 satanic number is where people should have to start to suspect. Pictures of Earth were stitched together made in Photoshop not a full real photos. look it up. All the Earth photos are faked go see. Even the guy copied certain clouds and over other areas to make a full round photos. and you dont know this. Am not crazy am telling facts like actual facts everything I said. REALITY
@cheekycicc66
@cheekycicc66 3 ай бұрын
Pink Noise, they're like flat Earthers. That was gold!😂😂😂
@panorama_mastering
@panorama_mastering 2 ай бұрын
It's the only time you'll see me make a nasty comment!
@welshaccenttutorials3104
@welshaccenttutorials3104 3 ай бұрын
What am I supposed to be looking at ?
@cerebrumexcrement
@cerebrumexcrement 3 ай бұрын
im not sure either. what i got was drive the kick, bass, and lead vocal to -6db and put hard clipper on them. everything else is lower volume and audible in mono.
@Fwuzeem
@Fwuzeem 2 ай бұрын
If there's one tip I've taken away from these videos is that your ears need to be exactly vertically aligned with your nipples
@andrewb2700
@andrewb2700 3 ай бұрын
One thing you can’t fix in this mix is the lead singer. It’s flat, soulless and out of groove too bad 👎🏼
@Hive5ive
@Hive5ive 2 ай бұрын
Stay away from music production and mixing please.
@donutman1101
@donutman1101 27 күн бұрын
Alright stevie wonder. Your attitude needs fixing more than anything
@JanPanCygan
@JanPanCygan Ай бұрын
And what are you doing exactly?
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