F.D.S

[@kas3583]

Yvette spitting fire. If u dont get it by now u never will.

[@HigherLevelSound757]

I’m ready for the full video!

[@on_the_clock_atThe_foundry]

ADOS Kansas City Missouri Checking in

[@Anointed012]

But it’s the same people.

[@on_the_clock_atThe_foundry]

@@Anointed012 ?

[@perfectochico]

It weird how he put that question on ADOS but he doesnt go to Haitians telling them "You cant claim Haiti, you are African". 😒

[@lroyjetsonson5060]

Haiti got rejected by the African Union, so Flip needs to worry about that. They don't even consider Haitians Africans.

[@Jtve737]

RIGHT 😂😂😂

[@dnporter5506]

ADOS is to AMERICA, like Jamaican's are to jamaica, like Haitians are to haiti, like Trinidadians are to trinidad, like puerto ricans are to puerto rico, like Cubans are to Cuba, like Barbabians is to barbados, like belizians are to Belize. And I don't see any of these people leaving their islands to go to africa😂😂😂. No they all come here and tell us who we are.

[@KnowledgebeezyTV]

ADOS in the Building! Rochester, NY checking in! We over 30million deep in this country when 🥷🏾 wake up!

[@Blackrooted96]

50 million

[@IAmtells]

@@Blackrooted96 I was about to say it got to be more than that. I really feel that white people are the minority.

[@careyivery6656]

I grew up in Miami - I have never ever heard a Haitian call themselves "African." What is really going on here?

[@jazo85]

where was that said? lol

[@careyivery6656]

@@jazo85 If you can't understand the context of the conversation - no need to comment / troll.

[@jazo85]

@@careyivery6656 i’m not trolling. lol no one said that in that convo. what does understanding the context have to do with it? i asked where was it said.all you have to do is say when it was said if i am incorrect…

[@careyivery6656]

@@jazo85 The host is Haitian - he wants Ms Carnell to identify as "African." My question was anecdotal. In real life, I never heard a Haitian identify as African. How is this a hard concept for you?

[@dboi4952]

It's complicated. Because places like Haiti and Jamaica are actually nations in and of themselves. While black Americans are in a nation that is not their own, and for the most part, claiming a nation which doesn't claim them.

[@404Miiks]

They shouldn’t be in conversation with her. They simple aren’t equipped.

[@mayonaze2g]

these convos have to happen

[@LordAbbaNyhiem]

​@@mayonaze2gExactly. How do you school people to your point of view by not engaging them? This cult follower mentality is crazy

[@itsjustmekim]

why is what she's saying so hard to understand?

[@Brother_to_the_Night]

Intentional incompetence

[@JonahPeterson-d7v]

@@Brother_to_the_Night FACT.

[@TW-hg7nt]

Facts, she broke it down perfectly and they sitting there still not understanding. Why do others get to dictate who ADOS should be??

[@wokemanishboi5003]

Because they don't want to. It is in their best interest to muddy the waters regarding reparations. By combining us all under one category as black. That means they are just as entitled to reparations as ADOS would be in this country. That why many other black ethic group play dumb in the topic or call ADOS divisive.

[@wokemanishboi5003]

Look at this point if other black ethic groups don't understand it's because they don't wanna understand.🤷🏿‍♂️

[@RebelWithoutABoss]

I don't claim these acronyms, but I get what she's saying. The way I look at it is this, if it's wrong for Black Americans to simply consider ourselves our own ethnicity then it has to be wrong for Jamaicans to claim Jamaica or Haitians to claim Haiti, Bermudans to claim Bermuda, etc. Those Caribbean countries should mean nothing to them, they should just claim Africa. If they want to keep claiming their Caribbean, Afro Latino heritages then no one should be questioning our strictly claiming our Black American identity.

[@dboi4952]

The difference is those are actually nations in and of themselves, while black Americans are in a nation that's not their own. But what else can black Americans call themselves? 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@RebelWithoutABoss]

@@dboi4952 We call ourselves Black Americans. Why aren't those Caribbean countries calling themselves New Senegal, New Ghana, etc? Seems like they've accepted they have their own separate identity from Africa and their own culture separate from Africa, why is it only wrong when Black Americans do this? It's even easier for these Caribbean nations to take on more African identities, because they can change the names of their nations. Why isn't the Bahamas called Little Igbo? You don't need your own separate country to have your own ethnic identity, Kurds, Palestinians, Rohingyans, Romanis don't have their own separate ethnic majority nations, neither do most African ethnicities. Black Latinos largely don't have their own nations either, the closest you may can say are Dominicans, but apparently most don't see themselves as black. So why aren't Afro Latinos just calling themselves African?

[@greenlight8819]

@@dboi4952 What do you mean “nation that’s not their own?” We ARE American. It just is what it is.

[@xenopsyborg]

@@RebelWithoutABoss If you start to know more Africans from their own countries, and the differences in views and beliefs and history and culture between Africans, and how and why some of them don't even get along, then you understand it's too reductive to call yourself African American, because you no longer have a connection to a single nation or tribal ethnicity - we have been repeatedly interbred. Most black Americans don't know shit about Africa and even look down on it. We suffer from lack of an identity, and a complete and total lack of knowledge about Africa. Our lineage is American, she's right. I didn't understand this until I moved out of the US, and started being around actual Africans from various places, and realized how my entire understanding of the world is based on being American and how Africans see me as different from them because of that. Black Americans just don't have a strong frame of reference about the rest of the world, which is typical for Americans in general.

[@ellisbrisbane8959]

​@dboi4952 bro what? U think Black ppl run the countries elsewhere in the diaspora? They're still heavily influenced by British, French or Spanish monarchy. Additionally many of those countries gained independence in different ways. I have ancestors who actually fought in the American Revolution (how we gained independence) as well as the American Civil War (which legally ended slavery here), WWI, WWII, list goes on. How is this not my country? Please explain

[@jayelee7112]

Nobody is trying to force White Americans to identify as European

[@chatbrown5191]

So he get to be from the Caribbean but Black Americans gotta be from Africa 😂

[@dnporter5506]

It's because they want our birth right😂😂😂 We cannot be deported, because Our port of entry was our mother's womb. We are Americans, They remind us when we are visiting their countries and when they are visiting our country.

[@13579hee]

The reality is simply that people of immigrant descent only have an immigrants understanding of the United States of America. They talk all that "but Black Americans ancestors came from somewhere else" bullshit.... Get that same truth could be said about any black person in the Western hemisphere. Yet no one shames black Jamaican for identifying as Jamaican over simply African and no one shames black Brazilian for identifying as black Brazilians instead of just African. But people do that to black American descendants of US slaves and it's oftentimes because they're narrow-minded immigrant perspective in the US is one where they personally view americanness as being exclusive to white people and, because they are black and immigrant, only understand blackness in the United States of America through the lens of an immigrant experience

[@ameenahameed8874]

Right - our families were largely in the US before it was a country so our stories are unique and very different from a recent immigrant.

[@etuk5216]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 That was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@saucejones4230]

ADOS is not associated with FBA.

[@666Agent47]

ITS THE SAME THING

[@maxpink]

​@@666Agent47 Tariq said they aren't the same. He's said it multiple times.

[@Iksura2ne1]

They are two different groups. ADOS is actually doing the political work.

[@greenlight8819]

@@666Agent47 No.

[@BigSane76]

They the same thing, one is politically driven the other ethnically driven. They both talking about the same people.

[@la3g462]

Thanks to Yvette, for being Yvette. Thanks to F.D.S for being bold enuff to have this conversation

[@ghostdog9575]

For someone who was ignorant to these fights or organization I appreciate Flip bringing this to his platform

[@deveancooper1126]

Lol vette FRIED HIM!!! ain't nobody fucking with her on the political science ❤ADOSAF

[@dnporter5506]

Big up to My Seminoles, Gulla Gheech, Louisiana Creole, Melungeon and Yamasee. AKA ADOS.

[@flyyceethemilitant2946]

I'm Cherokee my great great grandfather is Cherokee. I'm American Indian Cherokee. They on the Cherokee Dawes roll 💯

[@dnporter5506]

@flyyceethemilitant2946 Good for you. Did you know the Cherokee Nation owned Black Slaves? Did you know most claiming to be Cherokee are not? I question the legitimacy of all five nations because Europeans were able to buy their way onto the Registry AKA the 5 dollar Indian. And one great great parent don't make you Cherokee, you were only Cherokee for and a half generations, going by Genetics.

[@coroywheeler2958]

This conversation was above their pay grade

[@crisleroi299]

I've seen her before on news channels, but I can appreciate her more on this type of platform.

[@Myraisins1]

If Haitians are getting reparations from France can a black American be part of that? The reality is, black Americans are an amalgamation of peoples to form their own people. And each Caribbean island has their own amalgamation as well. Why can't people just understand and accept that. Let black Americans be who they are in their own country. Nobody goes to Jamaica to tell them that they are not Jamaican. What gives people the right to come to America and then tell black Americans who and what they are.

[@Elizau]

Man, play the whole video!! 👀

[@greenlight8819]

I’m so baffled at this insistence on us as ADOS people identifying as being African. People say that like whatever it’s supposed to convey is just so obvious and clear, but to me it’s not. Like Yvette said, we’re an amalgamated group which includes us being in part of African descent, among other things. That should be enough, and not much else should need to be said. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@lroyjetsonson5060]

It's because most people in America are immigrants. Only FBA'S and people who were Colonialist don't wave foreign flags. Even most of them married European immigrants. Most FBA'S have no immigrant heritage at all. We pretty much are the only non immigrants in the country. Even the Red Natives on reservations didn't have much involvement in establishing the country. They don't want us to admit that we predate the USA so we're not Immigrants to the Country we built.

[@InverselyComplicated-ve3ls]

They want ADOS to identify as African, so that they can use ADOS as fodder at their leisure.

[@fistandpen2505]

I'm Nigeria, and damn it would be great if ADOS/FBA Black Americans stop arguing with Pan-African Black Americans about this whole thing. The whole thing is so damn noisy

[@greenlight8819]

@@fistandpen2505 Unfortunately, I see no end soon for those kinds of spats but I’ll say this: more often than not, it’s usually one side responding to another without provocation imo.

[@fistandpen2505]

@@greenlight8819 i hear u

[@Fwam95]

Yvette Carnell is redefining history when it comes to identity. These two dudes are lucky that they even got the opportunity to have her in their space. She is Top Tier Intellectual level, she is up their with Farrakhan type of knowledge. These two dudes seem cool but they fit in more at the Charlemagne tha God & the irrelevant topics kind of level.

[@etuk5216]

Wait until they get a taste of attorney Antonio Moore…He’s the knock out punch!!!!!!

[@kerrykeaton4475]

Flip with the content!

[@dipset6892]

This is why I like flip he brings people and has the conversations people. He deserves respect for this

[@tonystone10K]

He agrees to disagree but couldn't articulate any disagreement. But this was a really good sit down. Kudos to you guys for having Yvette on.

[@ThirtyThreeHipHop]

I'm just here to hear Yvete say "Obaaaaaammaaaaaaa" 😂

[@RC-jp6vd]

ADOS we are enough

[@waynemazique6556]

I appreciate the effort Flip but like Yvette says most people can't hit the curve.

[@curtis1415]

The problem with these kinds of discussions is the overt mindset among those who are ignorant is that Black Americans aren't an ethnic community and instead are an off-shoot African population that reside in the US so those who have melinated phenotypes can be grouped into it especially as they become US citizens(we're talking about those with immigrant backgrounds) are dismissive of Black Americans' unique history as a people. The reparations discussion which I agree with BTW becomes a shiny object to distract from the truth of Black Americans' history as a people and how much their history as a community is tied to the history of the US. The 1860 4.4 million population grouped (88% enslaved and 12% free before The US Civil War 1861-1865) into American Blackness is the ethnogenesis of contemporary Black Americans and is the basis of our ethnic identity. I'm a 4th-5th generation full descendant of that unique population and this defines my own identity. No other group regardless of melinated phenotype has no frame of reference for that and that's what Yvette is explaining and giving "language" to.

[@krisv1991]

Man! Give us the whole thing

[@rocsteadyh.o.g4247]

Tariq the troll is Fba and Fba are trolls, Ados is a real movement

[@maxwellbrisk5622]

FBA is a lineage not a movement...There is no leaders in FBA but there is in Ados which is clownish.

[@HigherLevelSound757]

@@maxwellbrisk5622 there’s no leader cause he doesn’t want to be responsible for the foolishness he created.

[@saidyced6894]

​@maxwellbrisk5622 this makes no sense. That explains FBA lack of work. This is an excuse not to be accountable and do work.

[@hippyvan]

Ain't nobody ask you that, cointelpro sewing more unnecessary confusion.

[@maxwellbrisk5622]

@@saidyced6894 Wtf are you even talking about? And why does it concern you? You want us to work for you while you just sit and study and benefit with nothing to add but criticism . You have nothing to offer us and never did, act like it peon.

[@thescienceline9420]

Yvette did a phenomenal YT video on Haiti and the US history

[@savtelly3817]

Get em Yvette 🤣🤣

[@dnporter5506]

ADOS is to America like the Aborigals of australia, like the Fijians of Fiji, The melanesians of Papa New Guinea. Yes, we all have African ancestry, however we have not been Africans for along time. ADOS are Americans just like Descendants of the Pilgrims, Anglo Saxons, and the English.

[@laneylaney9985]

He don’t really have the intellect to stand in a room with her. It’s great that she’s getting the msg out there though

[@sondraj816]

I think Yvette does a fantastic job at meeting people where they are. She should really consider doing more interviews such as this. Antonio Moore would have never sat and talked with them. He would have been too irritated with their ignorance on the subject.

[@billyonthewheels75]

Whenever someone starts a sentence with "no disrespect, but", they getting ready to disrespect you.

[@Mbaby5187]

Proud🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@willx_1]

He said "i did my geography " Haha.

[@jessicam.4777]

😂😂😂

[@killmongermyhero1169]

Damn she cooking..FBA B1

[@tonysnow884]

Fba dont care for the opinions of haitians,africans, Jamaicans etc we different

[@rocsteadyh.o.g4247]

Fba is a troll group not ados

[@lamarlo4437]

Why are you bringing up FBA when this is about Yvette and ADOS. You're doing the same thing you claim African and Carribean immigrants are doing.

[@sistahb5159]

This is about ADOS not fake FBA created to make money 💰 for Tariq, and derail ADOS reparations.

[@HigherLevelSound757]

I blame Tariq Nasheed for muddying the waters.

[@maxwellbrisk5622]

Thats exactly what tethers do. Muddy the waters. Tell us what we dont deserve on our own land while they cosplay as us and benefit off our plight and fight.

[@infamouseli92]

I agree

[@lamartruth6601]

But it was Yvette who started the fight Tariq so make that make sense.

[@HigherLevelSound757]

@@lamartruth6601what did Yvette say or do to start it?

[@lamartruth6601]

@HigherLevelSound757 it all started when Tariq called out the Revolt summit as being BS. A caller said, "you should do your own." Tariq said, you're right. When he set the date for his summit, Yvette and Tone said, you can't have it on that date that's to close to mine. Tariq said I can do what I want when I want and it was down hill from there.

[@DaCrusher9342]

Talk that talk, Vette! I don't want to hear that booty scratcher talk. We are the most inviting black folk on the planet! ADOS strong!!! 💪🏾

[@ellisbrisbane8959]

Finally Flip did this interview. I hate when Flip acts oblivious to this topic like he slow then when he gets stumped he goes str8 to victim mode. Flip idgaf what anybody called u in elementary school 30 years ago, u make a living on cracking jokes & from my perspective u get a rush outta roasting ppl so please stfu with that. If Flip and anybody else out here really Pan-African like how he claims to be, Black Americans seeking our own identity & holding America accountable for the nonsense shouldn't be an issue. What's the matter, we only stand for each other as long as Black Americans aren't the primary benefactor? & let's be real, if u grew up in a community with Black descendants from elsewhere in the diaspora u'd know we don't get along like that fr & it ain't about Black Americans being bully's. Things have been divisive tween us unfortunately, it didn't start when we decided to stand up for ourselves. Sorry bro but u gotta get out the whip & sit this 1 out. How about having some support for those u call brothers & sisters my g, that might go further & would certainly be more appreciated.

[@JPW222]

My materal family is from East Georgia. According to my Ancestry DNA chart I am made up of 87% African DNA (7 ethnic regions) 12% European (4 ethnic regions) and 1% Indigenious. My step mothers side of the family is registered on the United States Government Dawes Rolls that list members of the 5 Civilized tribes as Cherokee by Blood. We are a amalgamated group made up of multiple West African tribes, European slave owners and Native Indigenous peoples of America. To simplify our identity down to just African is to deny our complex history and make up. We are uniquely ADOS.

[@lroyjetsonson5060]

It's not that hard to understand. People just already didn't like us before they got here. So their trying to internet 🧌

[@andreabrown4541]

Pretty sure Jesse Jackson covered that in his press release back in the 1980s. Apparently nobody white and most black people didn't listen. Oh well!

[@JPW222]

@@andreabrown4541 if he did he got the language completely wrong with African American.

[@ameenahameed8874]

@@JPW222we’ve been identifying as African Americans here since the 1800s though. It didn’t start with Jesse Jackson. To add, I’ve used African American as an ethnic term which describes our unique mix of African, Euro and Native ancestry and our unique ancestral experience in the US.

[@JPW222]

@@ameenahameed8874 that may be the case but on government forms African-American did not come about until post 1980. Also the term itself is problematic because the language of it matters. They call Barack Obama the first African-American president and Kamala Harris the first African-American vice president but neither of them are African-American. It allows for people who are immigrants of African descent to use the word interchangeably. To prevent that you have to create a term that has the specificity that only identifies those that discern from the institution of American child slavery i.e. ADOS or American Descendants of Slavery.

[@Marvlo102]

Peace Connecticut 📍..... Checking in

[@OPPK100]

But no one is telling white people they still from Europe and we been here longer walking around free. 60k free blacks in 1790 and over 317k blacks by 1830. But we African

[@joyanderson8646]

Strait facts!!!👍👍👍 Exactly!!! 💯🔥🔥🔥

[@klccostello1273]

Yvette stay cooking.....Chef Yvette

[@Blackrooted96]

We was here before 1619 this was terrible. Our history on this land did not start in 1619. It’s before 1492.

[@xenopsyborg]

But it was not a continuous history. Leif Erikson also came to the Americas before Columbus, but the continuous history of non Indigenous people in America starts in 1492, and for black people or ADOS or FBA, whatever you want to call it, it starts with chattel slavery. History is history, fact is fact. "We was here before?" Who was "we"? Do you know which tribe or nation out of Africa actually came to US before Columbus. While actually not proven beyond some circumstantial evidence that is also confused by the intermediate history, there is archaeological evidence that could suggest travelers came from Mali, which would mean you could only claim "we was here" if you are from Mali. People from Mali were not really part of American chattel slavery, some countries that were involved were certainly part of the Malian Empire, but not all. If black Americans actually had any real understanding of Africa, we would be calling saying stuff like this but we only see ourselves as a homogenized, monolithic group because that is how we were cultured her, and our connections to Africa have been obscured and confused.

[@andheardstudios8089]

Oh this came out of no where!!!

[@87cozart]

I know nothing about Africa I’m from America, Cherokee Indian

[@goodiewild4549]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥✌🏾💯

[@willx_1]

He didn't know about caricom, and tried to get her to tell him. With that disingenuous question.

[@AsarRaset-km6sk]

ADOS 💪🏽 💪🏽 💪🏽 💪🏽

[@Elizau]

🔥

[@quantumblackness2.0]

#ADOS are 14th generation American genetically speaking. go ask the Haitians if they African or aboriginal to the Americas. 😒 miss us w the nonsense.

[@ameenahameed8874]

Right - I have traced back 12 generations. We are 12 to 14+ generations and if you include our Native American ancestry it goes back farther.

[@quantumblackness2.0]

@@ameenahameed8874 it doesn’t go back farther bc we’re not Native Americans. on average there’s only 3% Native Americans Ancestry in ADOS. most don’t have Native American ancestry in any large numbers to claim being indigenous. and what little is there came from them owning slaves. they aint claiming those descendants so why would you claim them? don’t answer the question. bc i don’t care. 🛑

[@careyivery6656]

@@quantumblackness2.0 That percentage represents any actual ancestor. Who lived and breathed at some point.

[@quantumblackness2.0]

@@careyivery6656 Native Americans were in Haiti b4 Haiti was Haiti also. does that make them Native Americans as well? 😒 or is the narrative only deployed on us?

[@careyivery6656]

@@quantumblackness2.0 I am a descendant of Black Seminoles (mostly escaped enslaved people) - they interbred with Native Americans here in Florida. That doesn't make me Native American per se - but it is a part of my genetic makeup. Those Native Americans (Seminoles) are my ancestors; I carry a piece of them in my blood. It's not about a "narrative" it's just science.

[@BM0RESquare_XTherapist]

♥️♥️🙏🏽

[@august_3rd]

Theses 2 guys are not qualified for this conversations.

[@DLFfitness1]

Why make us African or other when no one claims us? So many just want to shut down the conversation, or just keep us as an underclass.

[@rosestephen6789]

Amalgamation 😂😂😂 📌🇺🇲

[@nobullzone8394]

There's a reason why they call the US The Melting Pot

[@87cozart]

It’s jealousy that’s why they making it so hard for us…

[@njugunagishuru9253]

I never thought I would see Yvette Carnell on QueenzFlip? 🤔….Odd combination….

[@carladams1706]

The Out of Africa theory is not correct.

[@ChristopherLecky-e5x]

Its a silly question, if you put a space for every country the census form would be 100 pages long.

[@greenlight8819]

Not really. MENAs have been advocating for their category since like the 90s, and they got it.

[@JonahPeterson-d7v]

"Booty-scratcher" doesn't hold the same historical animus as "akata" and other slangs against ADOS do!! Tired of hearing that bs comparison.

[@MosheXX]

Who are you to say that tho?

[@JonahPeterson-d7v]

FUCC IT- I got time rn. 😆🙄 I am REALITY, youtube stranger!! I meant what I said, & I STAND ON IT. AKATA has POLICY behind it which TO THIS DAY has RL, far-reaching affects on any Black AMERICAN'S political, social, financial (etc.) well being outside of the states... or more specifically, according to which AFRICAN country they may attempt to relocate to, build in, financially network in, or make commerce within... Even MORE SO TODAY!!!! Meanwhile.... 'African booty scratcher' was a playground slang used by KIDS for ranking & playing the dozens, that has NEVER had ANY affect on policy against any adult Africans whatsoever!! In the U.S. or ANYWHERE ELSE, gottdamit. Example: A South African @ a bank there, who sees me as AKATA can hinder me from doing business in his country!! A Black American banker (whom for whatever reason(s) may have 'African booty scratcher' animus towards an African customer) does NOT OWN THAT BANK, AND DOES NOT have the power to decide if he could get a loan or not, for instance; no matter WTF he thinks or feels about the African... and EVERYBODY knows this.

[@rasmoise568]

The One Drop Rule never failed, my Haitian people you are African and identify with one of the 21 enslaved African tribe that was brought by the French in the island, being Black is what European colonizers labeled all different ethnic African that were enslaved in the Americas I'm over 98.7% Subsaharan African if she can be Black , then I no longer want to be identified as Black but my African tribal roots which is Hausa/Tikar

[@darklibra7925]

When are they gonna stop bullshiting and just release the entire interview?

[@simeonkev]

At some point we have to recognize who we r as black Americans..we lost our language, culture and customs. My last name is Dennis for Christ sake that is nowhere near an African name. My culture is now America..

[@sexyEros]

Yall need to stop it with that lost narrative. Ethnogenesis debunked that 🤦🏾😫🤷🏾😒

[@RalphTho]

2/3rds of the world had to rebuild their culture from scratch. almost everybody was colonized.

[@amoore1505]

​@@RalphThoWe're talking about America though. Not 2/3rds of the world.

[@sandrasteele976]

We didn't lose anything🤦‍♀️. Yall are exhausting.

[@RalphTho]

@@amoore1505 America is apart of the 2/3rds that was colonized

[@kofiadosprempeh6965]

100% ADOS from Montgomery, Alabama.

[@charleskelly8519]

ADOS Built this country and reparations is long over due . The fight. Continues. ADOS. PHILA . DELAWARE

[@Novem3ber11]

These non FBAs wanna be apart of what we have so bad .. Evette broke it down perfectly, he just feel discluded. But he's not us, and we aren't him. And btw, it was his folks that started that sh.

[@MosheXX]

What do you have?

[@Novem3ber11]

@MosheXX I have everything I need. On my own.

[@Novem3ber11]

@@MosheXX WITH NO KIDS.. BLOOP..

[@MosheXX]

Why do you think that’s exclusive to any ethnic group? Let alone you? Why do you want someone to be jealous of you so much. Just weird 😂

[@Novem3ber11]

@MosheXX You fled, and went and ate off someone's else's plate. We didn't do that, we fought, and actually worked and built what we got.

[@bigweezo2341]

yall dont ever get tired of having the same conversations with no resolution ever? like what is the goal of this talk? the same talking points that everybody has already heard.

[@quevaughn]

Thank You!

[@Friedfish-zm7fx]

Those calling for reparations betray their own failures. The successful do not call for reparations; their success is their best revenge. USA: former colony of England; USA: successful country not asking for reparations. Australia: former colony of England; Australia: successful country not asking for reparations. Taiwan: former colony of Japan; Taiwan: successful country not asking for reparations. South Korea: former colony of Japan; South Korea: successful country not asking for reparations. North Korea: former colony of Japan; North Korea: failed nation, should it ask for reparations? Failures have a proven record of failing time and time again and show no exercise of self-repair. Monetary "reparations" will repair nothing. Monetary "reparations" is akin to giving more heroin to the heroin addict: short term pleasure followed with long term pain. Actual healing is done from within, not from without. Paradox of getting a bank loan: those in the least need of loans are most likely to get loans. If you have outstanding debt, no job, criminal record, living on the streets, you definitely NEED a loan but you are very unlikely to get a loan. Of course you have a long list of reasons for your pitiful situation ("The Police broke my arm.", "My great-great-great-grand parents were SLAVES!!!", "The landlord stole my furniture.", "My wife left me.", etc.). But no matter: No. Money. For. You. You may elicit pity but you do not get respect. You may elicit compassion but you do not get admiration. You may elicit empathy but you have bad reputation. You may elicit sympathy but you show no virtue. You may elicit sorrow but you have no credibility. Those most likely to get reparations are those who are demanding it from strength; but then, given your strength, you are unlikely to ask for reparations: Success is the best Revenge. Morality is a bitch. Morality is a tough Parent. Empathy without Understanding leads to Foolishness. Foolishness is not Morality. The purpose of Morality is to ensure the survival of Society, not to have Kumbaya sessions. It is immoral for Society to allow malignant tumors to grow: at some point Society will die. For those demanding reparations: is your credit score (not the credit score of your great-great-grand parents) high enough to get "reparations" from Society? Answer: Quite likely, NO. For those demanding reparations: are you a societal malignant tumor? Answer: Quite likely, YES. People with success in the Present have their memories of Failure dimming away with time. People with failure in the Present have the memories of Past Failures and Past Successes burning brighter and brighter with time. People with failure in the Present have not learned from their Past (Failure, Success) and is thus stuck in the swamp of Present Failure. People with failure in the Present flash out the Victim Card, citing the Failures of the Past and demanding Reparations (I was robbed! My great-great-great-grand parents were SLAVES!!! Wypiple stole my wealth!!!). People with failure in the Present flash out the Victim Card, citing the Successes of the Past, saying "I am as Good now as I was in the Past. I am a Failure now because I am OPPRESSED!!! I have been SUPPRESSED!!! I have been VICTIMIZED!!!" Become a Victim and win a prize!!! Victims of the World, Unite!!!

[@brodaryl8802]

✨I understand the bigger point and just want to add and remind us that the original inhabitants of Ireland were Black people. This is where the term black Irish originated from. And the original people and inhabitants of Europe, were Black people just as well.🤷🏽‍♂️✨

[@ameenahameed8874]

Well technically we all descend from Africa, including wyte European people, Asians and all human kind but we aren’t necessarily going back that far. It doesn’t negate her point. We also know that race is a social construct - but it’s also a very real thing. So we can throw a bunch of things out there but the folks who enslaved our ancestors in the US were largely wyte European people.

[@brodaryl8802]

😳✨My only point was to say, that from my understanding,🤷🏽‍♂️I think she’s💯%! ✨😄👍🏾

[@kuongjah7]

Don't joke about it.

[@51isALL]

#ADOS

[@asaelliott5851]

Jamaican, Haitian but we are not American?

[@jpcoleman3408]

These guys are not intellectually competent enough to debate Yvette on this topic, but I guess enlightenment is possible at every level.

[@s.goodie]

@QuietRoom is stringing people along for clicks & views. Can yall please post the episode so we can hear some sense and not y’all’s bs?

[@MrHereWeGoYo]

What "thoughts" are you gathering? lol This is the exact stubbornness she's talking about with everybody else wanting to dictate who we should be. There ain't nothing left to say. You just gotta deal with it.

[@H1GHD3FF]

We are tribal folks

[@MISTERALSTON]

Whether you want to agree with it or not. There were also black people already here prior to Africans coming in slavery. Why I don't always agree with her politically, she is killing it soeaking truth on our lineage.

[@tonyheard391]

Native Americans owned slaves too, that's why some blacks say that they are aboriginals or native Americans. It's no different from other Europeans who owned slaves. Go fight with the native Americans and their reservoirs if you have an issue, otherwise, stop otherwising and stick to the ball game, reparations for the America Descendants of Slavey.

[@hippyvan]

🤡 so you fighting for the good name of your red Master instead of the whit e. You know they hunted and scalped us too. They made money off tracking escaped slaves, sold and graped us too. Always Pretendians thinking they making a point.

[@MISTERALSTON]

@tonyheard391 I want argue that Native Americans owned slaves snf that wasn't the case. However, Native Americans and Aboriginal Negros are and where 2 different groups on this land. Native Americans are government controlled tribes that were established or taken over by Europeans ($5 indians). Look, I don't follow narratives. I study genealogy and deal with facts. Peace

[@igygy507]

"Where were those black people you mentioned, who were already present here prior to the transatlantic slave trade, from?

[@NoName-up1px]

The term "black" wasn't used to describe people of African descent during that epoch. The term" black" was invented in the late seventeenth century after Bacon's Rebellion. "Black/White" is a social contruct.

[@Novem3ber11]

But you came here on your own.

[@Frosybeats_FbM]

She’s a mix baby! Y’all don’t need to accept your African lineage. Just like a lot of African black Americans!

[@quevaughn]

Please stop expecting validation from a country that has shown it does not care. Work, make money, plan and leave! Yes I said it. Make money here and build somewhere else. We must think globally to survive.

[@greenlight8819]

It’s not about validation, it’s about contribution. Our ancestors helped build this place! You can do whatever you want on your own time and with your own money, but don’t deride the people who choose to stay here and fight for what’s theirs.

[@quevaughn]

@@greenlight8819 I am not saying that all that you said is not right, deserved and just. Nor am I putting shame to people who think differently than I do. But the facts are facts. W!e do not think strategically. Unless we have our own, apart from the system here (doesn't mean we cannot work within too) Something that we build, create and control. Our circumstances will never change.

[@dnporter5506]

Yeah your African is showing, go head run away instead of fighting for what's yours. But once you leave don't come back.

[@quevaughn]

@@dnporter5506 LOL, Already left. Been gone two years🤣. Funny how people use the phrase "Run Away". Do you say that to white people who leave or renounce their citizenship when the country no longer serves their purpose? No. Only we try to shame each other for not blindly following a failed strategy or fighting for a long lost cause. I am just saying it's time to think out of the box, because marching, pleading, complaining and endless debating clearly has not worked.

[@greenlight8819]

@@dnporter5506 You’re doing way too much. What he said didn’t require all that. 👀

[@Soundshopeca]

Yall not getting no reparations. Always begging for something but don’t wanna put the work in. Get these crying victims outta here.

[@BUD-TV]

Shorty got issues like a newsstand

[@QUAN81880]

FBA ALL DAY!

[@nahmeanslime1753]

Preach Queen Preach! ✊🏾

[@ctee4627]

And THIS is why we are delineating. We are a mixed group and immigrants are trying to define us in THEIR image. Absolutely NOT!!

[@nahmeanslime1753]

@@ctee4627🙏🏾

[@ameenahameed8874]

Now you know that’s offensive.

[@nahmeanslime1753]

@@ameenahameed8874 Your right, I apologize… Bless Up! 💪🏾

[@erichousley7453]

#ADOSINDY

[@Jtve737]

The majority of slaves came to the caribbean.. these people are not native to the caribbean at all.

[@ellisbrisbane8959]

Majority of slaves actually went to South America but continue

[@Jtve737]

@@ellisbrisbane8959 WRONG

[@ellisbrisbane8959]

​@@Jtve737 Google is ur friend beloved

[@sheikhhajj5869]

It all sounds like propaganda to separate from both sides, united we will stand divided we will fall for the same stuff. These thoughts were implemented outside of black people this was planned a long time ago.

[@dnporter5506]

We tired the Pan African thing, ADOS got nothing be disrespected.

[@MosheXX]

Exactly the same ol

[@ellisbrisbane8959]

"We" have never been united 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@sheikhhajj5869]

What Is the soloition, I hear delineate, separate, and then what? I don't hear anyone speaking about post separation, what is the blueprint, what is the plan?

[@ellisbrisbane8959]

@sheikhhajj5869 can't separate what's not together 🤷🏿‍♂️. Nonetheless the solution is if u aren't ADOS & u disagree with the movement please just step aside & mind ya business. Let us handle things with our own government like we've been doing for almost 250 years. We'll come together on another topic bro.

[@origoldproductions]

As Haitian American, these claims further division and in fighting among those that are diasporic and have lineage to those on this land before colonialism. Being Haitian American born and raised in New York, most of my upbringing and experience at large would be described as that of an “African American” we must innerstand that until all black and indigenous history is claimed by all black and indigenous people, we will continue to fight each other instead of finding common ground to combat the current state of the land and its treatment of our people.

[@ellisbrisbane8959]

Bro I'm from NY, keep it a stack, do we really get along or is it more or less a thing where we all just live under the same circumstances? Of course a cop or teacher can't explain it for real but for us it's different. ADOS & Black immigrants get along but only to a certain extent. I know for sure Caribbeans don't fw us & I refuse to believe we have been united. I could understand someone who didn't grow up amongst a mix of the diaspora being naive to this relationship but someone from the city? Na

[@origoldproductions]

@@ellisbrisbane8959 as far as I see and experience we do get along. Long before colonialism our ancestors have been traveling to this land. From this land to other lands. Indigenous people, those melanated people that have all ready been here, all the same people you go back far enough. This part of the world has been occupied by indigenous and those of “African” ancestry for a long time before colonization. I refuse to believe we don’t get along. Grouping ourselves into groups like this event before folks receive reparations, this kind of in fighting isn’t good for anyone. WHO profits off of it? The system. The same system that doesn’t care for these kinds of nuances and just see us as numbers/pawns to be used in their race game. My question is what is the point of this division/in fighting? It feels like we’re being played by an entity that can’t be seen, or chooses not to be seen. An entity that doesn’t have to involve themselves directly bc we’ll just do the fighting amongst each other, and this entity continues to grow. Fighting for claim in a system/society that has never truly recognized us as people is simply ridiculous.

[@ellisbrisbane8959]

@origoldproductions to answer ur question it's not about dividing anything & as far as I'm concerned it ain't even about reparations. The ADOS movement is about holding America accountable let's make that clear. Me being ADOS & supportive of the movement does not mean I am anti anything nor does it mean I'm not Pan-African, the 2 can coexist. My question to u is, what is the problem with us having our own identity in our own country? Why aren't we allowed to be proud Americans while also being Black? My family has been in this country since before the country was created, why should we claim another place that we have never been to especially if we don't feel supported by the ppl from there? The wild part is, if the conversation of reparations weren't present (again idgaf about reparations) we wouldn't even be having this discussion? With the exception of Marcus Garvey I don't recall anybody from elsewhere in the diaspora condemning America & actually supporting us. & that's thru slavery, jim crow, civil rights movement, mass incarceration, war on drugs, the list goes on. U wanna decrease division amongst us all? Then support the movement. U don't have to be an active supporter either, u could simply sit this 1 out & let us handle our own business.

[@greenlight8819]

You’re full of it.

[@dcwashingtonpresident5938]

This ADOS vs FBA debate is bout the dumbest debate ever.... Same lineage of people 🤷🏿 period

[@greenlight8819]

Only dumb to people who can’t think critically. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@epiceric4507]

Foundational Black American strong reparations now 💯🪓🪶🏹💯

[@FredoTheFloet]

Two different groups that share a common “goal/agenda”. If you are born in America you’re American, if you’re born in Jamaica you’re Jamaican.. it’s common sense folks

[@jamalammar9745]

My ancestors were not slaves, they were enslaved humans. #FBA

[@biglee8832]

She has a bunch of weak arguments!! She's not well read or well versed! She makes a good point but makes weak arguments to prove that point!

[@greenlight8819]

And you demonstrated that by…not making any arguments…weak

[@biglee8832]

@greenlight8819 I don't have an argument but thanks for attempting to insult me!

[@greenlight8819]

@@biglee8832 exactly.