F train service disrupted after SECOND derailment in a week | NBC New York

The subway system is dealing with another derailment Wednesday, according to the city, one that is wreaking havoc on service in Brooklyn.
NYCT Subway posted on X that F train service was severely disrupted across the board, especially in that borough, after the incident on the elevated track near West 8th St-NY Aquarium in Coney Island.
Transit officials say one car of the northbound F train derailed between the Neptune and 8th Street stations around 12:20 p.m. They say there are no known reports of injuries. Thirty-seven people had been removed from the train by 3 p.m.
News 4's Melissa Colorado reports.
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[@GeneralHawk505]

This is what happens when MTA fires good knowledgable workers for idiots with an ego.

[@lisapalmer4725]

Idiots with pronouns

[@willybilly99]

You're officially hired as mta engineering. Now go out there fix the tracks

[@Skyhi0]

Diversity fellas, diversity

[@vshulkin]

Read Atlas Shrugged.

[@shaneclarke6307]

Yep. All senior guys are counting days to retire in our shop. All junior guys are sending resumes everywhere possible and leave within 1-3 years. Quantity of workers shrank in half in 5 years because we have no common sense in our shop: General superintendent says "I don't care that my supervisors don't know anything technical, as long as they are nice guys" Superintendent says: "I don't care that we have nothing available to do the job. Don't bring to me that list of spare parts we need to do the job. You just have personal issues with store room guy" I feel sorry and aggravated for not being able to do a job and ended up buying at least cheap stuff like drill bits, taps, connectors etc...

[@anthonyurgitano2114]

Always raising the fare but never working on the things that need to be done. We have to watch our backs from getting stabbed shot or robbed and now we gotta watch for derailments. Wtf.

[@AustinIsTheGreatests]

Lol, we have to always be alert for robbers and even the MTA itself

[@JanetSavona-yf6qn]

Plus there congestion pricing

[@otsari1]

Lord have mercy this whole city is falling apart.

[@JayseGreene]

Adams needs to go!

[@henryt9281]

Well you spend half your citizen's taxes on illegal immigrants who contribute nothing to the community, and half of the rest pandering to criminals and leeches, how much resources do you think they have to spend on services for honorable law-abiding citizens?

[@metropod]

@@JayseGreeneThe MTA does not report to him, but to Albany

[@Truck_boymaster]

fr

[@Crazy-Clown-In-Town]

@@JayseGreene Go where?

[@SpartanFret]

Right now in a 30-day period from December to today 3 trains has derailed and caused injuries. The N train, the 1 train and now the F train. And MTA is wondering why they are under investigation

[@user-ze4bv1hm3e]

Also the lirr in Jamaica

[@sanyahikari7072]

Being crushed by a falling subway train (either pedestrian or motorist) is one of the worst ways to leave this world. The same thing goes being a passenger on the falling train. Thank goodness it didn't happen. And RIP to those unfortunate souls in the Mexican subway disaster.

[@richietattersall2122]

A Derailment like that on the F can be caused by a rail or an axle/wheel failure. The only way the last one could have happened was "operator error" whoever was actually running the train they were working on, screwed-up, BIG time.

[@lvlv4219]

If we're going by logic then if you drive a car and your wheel comes off it is your fault?

[@TSgotstolengoddamm]

yes it is your fault because you didnt maintain your car and was oblivious to the queues that ur wheel is showing signs of being loose@@lvlv4219

[@Honestcritic79]

How is it the operator’s fault that there’s an axle/wheel failure?

[@ryandixon6428]

You logically cannot compare a car to a train that's 700 feet long each car has individual axle ..and if you car wheel is bad you're car will give you a warning

[@S3NDP13]

​@@Honestcritic79 Perhaps they were crossing a junction and someone switched the tracks? That could explain how the train derailed in the center of the train.

[@richietattersall2122]

If a piece of wood, a "TIE" fell, it definitely was a track failure.

[@m--a]

Pretty sure that the tie fell off because it was struck by the wheel of the derailed train, but idk really it could either be a track failure or a wheel failyre or something completely different

[@digimaks]

It's not a tie, but a parallel wood plank, that are nailed perpendiculary to the ties along the rail.

[@richietattersall2122]

@digimaks I missed the picture that had that in it, thanks. My Father used to work at the MTA Subway Shops in Coney. What he actually dealt with was maintaining and repairing the braking systems.

[@richietattersall2122]

@m--a A tie wouldn't "fall off" it's what the rails are on top of and spiked to. The only way that could happen is if something actually CUT the tie.

[@m--a]

@@richietattersall2122 im assuming that one of the train wheels cut the tie after the derailment

[@42luke93]

Today was an extremely windy day, that is most definitely a factor.

[@Crazy-Clown-In-Town]

You’re racist.

[@Honestcritic79]

That’s actually not a bad idea given that this happened near the ocean.

[@willybilly99]

What?😂😂😂 If you look close to the video posting on wood it's worn out or softened due to high humidity or outdoor rain , past few days been raining, 🧠

[@chaxologist2961]

Nope! It was something sketchy going on! Two derailments in less than a week, not to mention a train was also hijacked within the same week! Train derailment in NYC subway is extremely rare and 2 occured in one week! Not a coincidence at all!

[@42luke93]

@@willybilly99 If worn out and windy that is what did it. Just like the building in Little Italy yesterday that broke due to the wind🔑

[@ForestNinjaZero]

F train lives up to its name.

[@richietattersall2122]

Idiot,

[@richietattersall2122]

IDIOTS!!!

[@lisapalmer4725]

😂

[@mrbear716]

🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂👍🏾

[@user-vb2bo3ts2h]

It’s “F” ed up lol

[@christopherderasmo5041]

Thank God the F train is slow AF. If it were going at speed that would have ended differently.

[@aqua2poweros699]

The F is slow on the curve. It has to be slow cause of speed restrictions

[@LawandOrder-fi5xk]

The MTA have too many lazy overpaid workers where one person work while ten others stand around doing nothing.

[@deet4895]

That's pretty much every city worker, in every city, in every state in America. 😅

[@sparky3869]

No man power. Personnel is too spread out to do the repairs that is needed. They were trying to save money by making areas around the clock, and going crazy on stupid crack tiles ( so call emergencies) in stead doing the repairs and projects that will keep the system safe. The place is more in disrepair then ever before. Blame upper management for that. MTA had a separate crew that would handle repairs throughout the system and they down scale them to almost nothing, so this would take away from other departments, that would take care of projects that will help to prevent this.MTA is going back to the 70"s Drugs on the train. Smoking, shooting dope. Homeless. ETC

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Except privatization doesn't save agencies any money. What's saved on no longer having 10 workers just standing around and 1 guy doing all the work, is consumed by layers of management by the general contractors and subcontractors.

[@TrollingWithTheTruth]

AGAIN....this is what the Mayor and MTA wants you to give up your car for........

[@Racko.]

No can do, they’re busy prioritizing migrants

[@jbkingesq9889]

That's a pretty good railhead mismatch shown for a flash at 0:49. A flange could ride up on that and derail.

[@nycdrake7410]

2nd one In a week… imagine if this happened when the trains basically go light speed in the tunnels 😳

[@frankjones5770]

$3 for slow service. Unsafe conditions. And possible train derailment.

[@shannonharris6563]

It’s 2024 I think it’s time to update these MTA trains, and tracks New York City

[@richietattersall2122]

They are, the problems are, 1 $, 2 they run 24/7.

[@laurie7689]

I believe that the articles and videos that I've seen on the two derailments said that these were newer trains.

[@richietattersall2122]

@@laurie7689 They are, the F train was hardware, the fact that a piece of a wood "tie" that tracks are "spiked" to, fell to the street, means it was the track. The only way the 1st one could have possibly happened, is by the person running the train that had been vandalized. From one of the earlier articles I saw, they were not in the Train Operator's cab at the front of the train, they were running it from the Conductors cab in the middle, was if they they stopped because of a Red Signal, and manually "keyed" past the automatic braking system that PREVENTS them from bypassing a Red Signal. That was a major screwed-up, because of WHERE they were running it from, there was no way to see infront of the Train. My Father used to work at the MTA Subway Shops in Coney Island and dealt with maintaining and repaiing the braking systems. That's the reason that I know more about how the system actually works than most people. The distance to a train in front of them, or based on which track a "switch" in the track is lined up with, is what controls the Signals.

[@aqua2poweros699]

It’s just the tracks. The trains are just fine. Plus we got the R211

[@eobardthawne324]

​@@laurie7689The 1 train was not new.

[@blueswadeshoes4012]

The witness seems like a sweet mama bear

[@LindaRobertsCallsScammers]

The recurring incidents of subway trains derailing in New York City prompt a complex examination of several contributing factors. Aging infrastructure, insufficient maintenance, and delayed upgrades are key elements that collectively strain the reliability of the subway system. The extensive network of tracks and tunnels, some dating back to the early 20th century, faces wear and tear that demands consistent upkeep. Budgetary constraints and bureaucratic hurdles often impede timely repairs and modernization efforts, exacerbating the risk of derailments. Furthermore, the sheer volume of daily commuters places an immense burden on the aging system, leading to accelerated deterioration. A comprehensive and urgent approach is required to address these challenges, involving increased investment in infrastructure, streamlined maintenance processes, and a commitment to prioritize passenger safety. As the city grapples with these recurrent incidents, a concerted effort from both government authorities and transit agencies becomes paramount to ensuring the long-term viability and safety of the subway system in New York City.

[@LimboGene]

I strongly agree. As a native NYCer, I find it condescending that most people will immediately place all the blame on the MTA and completely disregard any information on why the system is the way it is today. It’s not like other ones around the globe and it can’t be compared due to the sheer amount of use these subways get. I definitely believe there is corruption and some lack of responsibility with staff/bureaucrats in the system, but the public never places enough faith within the city to do things about it. Always complaining about the fare hikes, but we never talk about the amount of civilians that misuse/abuse the system, cheating and costing the heart of our transportation millions.

[@edwardmiessner6502]

This is what happens when maintenance is deferred on the subway infrastructure... WaMATA in the Washington DC area and the MBTA in Boston had to learn the hard way.

[@aqua2poweros699]

True. At least WMATA has a great system. It’s not perfect but it’s good. Mta also has a good system but it has its flaws but appreciate that it is over 119 years old and somewhat functional.

[@jackieroberson42]

@@aqua2poweros699 The "CTA" aka the El has it's share of problems too.

[@supertrains156.66]

Seams like no-one was hurt and the train car of the r160 f train

[@Society2day]

THE SYSTEM IS OLDER THEN NEW YORK!! slow speed😅 the subway is never highspeed.

[@TezcatlipocaMountyRailfan]

Sooooo, by that construction workers report, a Crosstie broke? Guess that means the track was slightly uneven, therefore the gauge was off, and the wheels flange either jumped over a slightly inward warped track, or it fell into the inside of a slightly warped outward track. Either way, the only part of a railway that’s usually made of wood are crossties. Now, you’d think that wood is a stupid material to use for railroad, right? Nope. Wood, if treated regularly with Creosote, can last longer in extreme conditions and under heavy use and tort tension than most other materials. It also has the added feature of being able to contort under the 10M tons of freight in each train. If it was 100% rigid, it would crumble after a few trains, and that would be really bad for obvious reasons. CSX attempted to use concrete once, but it was a frivolous pursuit. The concrete didn’t have enough elasticity and was too rigid, so concrete crossties would crack, chip, and even snap under the weight of trains. Wood is currently the best material to use concerning longevity, availability, and cost effectiveness. Of course, if you neglect to maintain it, just like any other material, it will decay and eventually cause something like this to happen. If it is a broken crosstie, then the blame will fall squarely on New Yorks Metro Transit Authority for not maintaining their tracks as per FRA regulations and NTSB Findings and Recommendations.

[@MARQ247]

buildings in the bronx collapsing, a wall in the bronx collapsing, train derailments, rat population bomb, subway suicides, stabbings, shootings, floods... my city is going through it, man!!

[@Bassotronics]

@ 0:48 There’s your answer for why it derailed. If you look closely the left rail, it’s slightly out of place. The wheel flange must have hit it and derailed. It appears to not be properly bolted.

[@JohnnyRivera007]

Thank you for riding New York City transit

[@dream.machine]

This is just sad 😢 The MTA is starting to fall apart...

[@lcolon194]

THERE IS NO F TRAIN BETWEEN Avenue X and Stillwell Avenue because of a derailment between Neptune Avenue and West 8 Street-New York Aqaurium. F trains are running between 179 Street and Avenue X the last stop. Take the free shuttle bus Service changes on the f and m lines starting august 28

[@mysterymayhem7020]

The NTSB is going to launch a shit storm of the MTA.

[@jackieroberson42]

@ 0:14, dude looks like Caroll Spinney "who played Big Bird"🤣😂

[@disaster1100able]

I feared this day will come with the high tracks

[@Andrea-jr6xr]

Happy new year ❤🎉

[@SiriSucksBadly]

This EXACTLY happened WHERE I LIVED

[@electro_sykes]

The NYC subway is under invested and is not safe as a result of decades of neglect across the network since the 1970s. It’s falling apart and needs a major shutdown for rehabilitation works to keep it going

[@apollospace9804]

Are you crazy it doesn't need a major shutdown. MTA still can work parts of the tracks or in station that can be close and get it done, you can just shutdown the whole subway system cause it will be a mess if people would be late to work and the streets would be so flooded with people,it would be a mess bro, think goodness you aren't the president of the MTA cause you would screw everything up.

[@lisapalmer4725]

An elevated train could have fallen off the tracks entirely onto automobiles

[@Crazy-Clown-In-Town]

LOL.

[@northbytrain]

Could have yeah, thank goodness it didn't

[@smith2354]

It'll probably take something like that occurring for the politicians to finally fix this ancient system. Otherwise we'll just continue with our regular "Track Maintenance" and routine weekly derailment. God help us all

[@synacol_werj]

culver line needs more modernizing than what its getting so far

[@jolyonwelsh9834]

Fortunately there is a shit ton of skilled workers to keep the system running.

[@camera9024]

10 years since the (F) train derailment in Queens

[@digimaks]

Either bad/worn rail or joint, or bad axle pair.

[@etpslick100]

2wice in less than a week? Not good! Not good @ all!😡👎🏾

[@mauricioramirez9744]

Water damaged tracks from last night's downpour?

[@raidedz1148]

2 times in a week???

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

The F train lives up to it's name, Frequently Late 😂 Take the D instead, Pause 😂

[@omt4293]

Wonder what Andy Byford is thinking with this.

[@DavidRualeo]

They Hacked the system 😮

[@EndIessProductions]

Another one? After 96 street one

[@jefflewis9590]

First they rob us with train fair now they are actually try to kill us a new low for the MTA smh

[@CarolRogers50]

Big Problem NYC

[@JasonColonVargas-mf2sc]

Great not again bro 😂😂😂😂😂

[@News12Brooklyn384Sheephadbayca]

it was boris wolf nick edes domnick

[@MrBxbreezy]

Mta wtf? Get it together!

[@sairon63]

We won't see these things even in the 3rd-world countries.

[@donaldgeorge3717]

Where is pete buuudhajezh????

[@ericpi9453]

Fake trauma and sue the mta for millions

[@markvery65]

Always makes for a fun story down the road! 🚆

[@qolspony]

They are too concerned of fare jumpers that they are not taking care of the infrastructure. Anyway, I always thought the subway should be free. But tax the property owners 5 percent 5 blocks around the station. 2 percent for buses. This would be the incentive to build new lines.

[@user-ze4bv1hm3e]

I keep missing my lawsuit $$$ 😅

[@markhellman-pn3hn]

the shit happened in the 70s ... the shit happened in the 80s ... the shit happened in the 90s ... the shit happened in the 00s ... the shit happened in the 10s ... THE SHIT'S HAPPENING TODAY !! ... we're sending robots to mars - and we cant make subway cars ??

[@54blewis]

The 3rd the charm…..not trying to jinx the MTA….

[@mrrandombayridge]

They were working on this same location all morning then this happens 🤔 let’s just call it for what it is a shitty system! old infrastructure. Now they’ll raise the fares next week lol

[@Truck_boymaster]

oh boy THE SUBWAY IS BRAKING DOWN, DON'T RIDE THE SUBWAY!!!!

[@look8766]

F

[@Crazy-Clown-In-Town]

R.I.P to the passengers and crew who died. Such a tragedy.

[@m--a]

0:16

[@eobardthawne324]

You should watch the video before commenting.

[@A.Rose.G]

This is how you get more funding.

[@adamblack6867]

Is someone sabotaging the trains ?

[@nevincaulfield]

MTA wasting money on new trains, new turnstiles and cleaning graffiti 😂

[@elliekim6666]

Well the MTA does need new trains especially on the SIR

[@robotx9285]

We do need new trains though. The R44s trains on the Staten Island Railway, and the R46s on the Letter lines are falling apart and the other older trains we have are rapidly approaching 40-50 years in age, meaning they'll start breaking down more often, as well as becoming incompatible with newer tech.

[@NuraCaicedo-xh2ok]

Subway 🚉 😢

[@SShiJie]

wow 37 riders only, this shows the demand for public transport in NYC as not so great

[@760HorsePower]

Putin must be held accountable for this horrific derailment

[@user-ub7wg4hz4q]

😂

[@jayborn3468]

Damnn your price hikes for more shitty services

[@Marktheshark804]

NYC has big problems.

[@user-fg5md8tv3d]

MTA SERVICE BUSES MTA is ok

[@lukeskywalker6338]

sir toppahn hatt was cross your passengers don't I like to be late you have caused confusion and delay You should be responsible next time about your passengers

[@Paco_Gaepedores]

OMG 💀

[@catherinefan32]

Mayor Eric Adams fault as always hahahahha

[@ANON-yj9lm]

The Money Taking Agency strikes again

[@keithbrescia157]

heres how i see this over site ok lacking of next what series of train mta federal transit administration federal rail road adm have expl;aining to do let fta tso office get involved ok very simple

[@NoName-uk1vj]

This Is y I hop my taxes go to to this

[@robertnussberger6449]

Can we stop to acknowledge the super job mayor adams and gov hucul are doing 😊

[@serafilm2000]

nyc subway is embaresmend korea kim ung got better subway!

[@Ryan-he2qz]

Those tracks rails made of steal needs to go and replaced with a concrete newyork need s to replaced and invest heavily on track modernization. Otherwise MTA have to and leave newyork for Good

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Montreal Métro rubber-tyred subway cars designed not to derail is the way to go. Paris, Mexico City, and Santiago have them too.

[@kishanbalkaran566]

I find this so funny

[@Nakedbilove408]

WDF

[@Marcythefreethinker]

MTA voodoo

[@lmjr400]

Profit over safety ,,, get real engineers back and not mba degrees

[@capricornblack3450]

ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK!!

[@mang0.0]

the mta will fall

[@SOSenterprise]

Give me a break this is BS the newest you talk about Gazza

[@slapshot68]

1:08 can u all say “bullszit”?

[@skeetrix5577]

Im so glad i dont live in the craphole thats NYC Love from the midwest!

[@chuckscott-cy7iq]

U insult the people of NYC and then wish them love?? LOL

[@ForestNinjaZero]

There's definitely a craphole, but it doesn't represent NYC.

[@Boom080]

Midwest?? You mean the place thats basically unkown on the U.S map 💀

[@Vanya7917]

The USA has entered the stage of the end of the USSR))))

[@kishanbalkaran566]

Lol 😅😅😅😅😂😂

[@realtalk1310]

nyc is falling apart

[@twofour641]

Another insurance job by mta

[@SOSenterprise]

We should be worried about what’s going on overseas in Gaza

[@chuangyeruan2041]

NYC mta should let chinese be leader

[@DresHouse0863]

😮Damn..