F1 2023 Aerodynamics : Mercedes F1 W14 Downwashing Suspension Fairing : Explained !!

[@f1aerodynamicist]

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[@fglespaul]

“God bless your floor” might be the funniest thing I’ve heard in one of these aero explained videos. 😂

[@f1aerodynamicist]

🤣, came out very naturally

[@Nasherwood]

That caught me off guard 🤣

[@Jay-nk6dm]

8:53 hey shubh, i saw in the rules that the front suspension fairings can only have 10 - 0 degrees (nose up) , so how are the teams able to angle the fairings down?

[@Dabayare]

There should have been a big board in their offices saying "Do not over engineer things". They would never have gone down this zero-pod path.

[@erenozkanl9830]

Thank you so much mate !

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Most welcome, glad u enjoyed ut

[@javiervelasco3921]

Thanks for this, very helpful!

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Most welcome Javier

[@jayman81424]

Great video, thank you!

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Most welcome , do check out the aero analysis playlist for more kzbin.info/aero/PL1m1nh8q4fB2KUjc1XoIxaRCVBG8BrIaR

[@vishnuvijay2215]

Hi sir, great video. This type of video is more understandable than the previous ones where put forward terms directly. doubt: so the type of suspension will also affect the airflow? push/pull types.

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Absolutely, but usually , the suspension design is the first thing that's decided and you design around it

[@guitarislove-v1]

hey can you please share the links of the models that you are using for the explaination

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Sadly not , the work has limited scope due to confidential reasons

[@guitarislove-v1]

@@f1aerodynamicist okay no problem😀 but appreciate you hardwork

[@mdenjoyer831]

can you do a video on W14 problems and what is causing it

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Yup, coming this weekend

[@BonoImFaded]

Hi Shub, I am really interested in working in f1 one day and am gonna Pursue a college degree (most likely in thermo dynamics and fluid dynamics) to later specialize in aero, do you have any other típs that you learned to help you work for an f1 team?

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Hi Samuel, check out my playlist, how to get a job into F1 for general tips from my end

[@danielegiuliano171]

Wonderful Job! Can I ask you what do you mean with "floor strikes"?

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Floor strakes is what I must have ment

[@fawzihamdan3670]

Amazing explanation always

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Glad you liked it

[@kcvu7215]

Can you do a comparison of the merc and aston front suspension l?

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Well, we are working on a merc vs Aston Martin sidepod comparison as the next video. Watch out for it 🙃

[@TheGamingHungary]

With such an aggressive downwash, the suspension arms surely create quite the (local) lift, right?

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Yup they would, but it's a fraction to the advantage gained by the floor.. as for everything in engineering it's a trade off

[@TheGamingHungary]

@@f1aerodynamicist Absolutely, but what im thinking of is shouldn’t backing off both the front wing and the down was by the suspension elements be viable? This way you still create net downforce but with less drag. (F1 Teams know their Numbers but i am genuinely interested 😁)

[@domtoni4567]

Hi Shaub (hope I didn't miss spell your name). Thanks for the explanation. I appreciate the visual images showing the air flow from the wing over the suspension, and began to understand the terminology. Still a bit too much for me to comprehend, but I am learning. Pity that I am a bit too old to go into F1 aerodynamics !!!

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Hi Dom, its Shub, but full marks for the attempt. I'm happy to know that it's starting to make a bit more sense now, will adopt this methodology , so that everyone can learn. Don't worry , April month , expect a F1 Aerodynamics n101

[@domtoni4567]

Hi Shub, thanks for the reply. As I was driving to the gym last night, I think it started to make sense. is this correct, the front spoiler forces the air upwards, the air from above drives the forced upward air over the top of the suspension and the radiator area, low pressure sucks the air through it. Is this correct? The terminology can make things confusing.

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Well, in simple terms , the front wing pushes the air up , and the role of the suspension fairing is to change to trajectory of that air downwards so that the floor can benefit from using that air to produce more.downforce 🙃

[@domtoni4567]

@@f1aerodynamicist And you mentioned a low pressure area, assuming the air forced upwards by the spoiler, is higher pressure. And I would imagine the low pressure area sucking the higher pressure air into it?

[@dave9t5]

Very nice video, thanks. The suspension arms are obviously moving up/down though the suspension travel. The movement is quite small (

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Good question! Usually teams take into consideration a safety margin not to push the flow too hard knowing that this would happen n introduce non linearities, But I haven't heard a team focus n optimize this particular bit for a cornering etc, .

[@dave9t5]

@@f1aerodynamicist Thanks Shub!

[@alvingathecha5494]

Awesome explanation🔥🔥🔥

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Thank you 😊

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Do check out the other videos in the aero analysis playlist

[@blondi5419]

Hasn’t it been said their front suspension is the reason why they’re lacking downforce/losing their fronts?

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Yeah but that might be more mechanical than aero

[@dinocaminos]

@@f1aerodynamicist how?

[@BermyBwoy]

This is something I have noticed and did a comparison of all the 2023 front suspensions. Out of the top runners, AM looks to have very similar geometry to RB, except one is push and one is pull. The top rod is attached as high to the body as it can be and quite separated. Merc and Ferrari however have much narrower geometry and both seem to suffer with bad tire deg. I bet this will be something we'll see changed in future upgrades as if its obvious to a novice like me, I'm sure someone much smarter has noticed this difference. They already said the AM is half a Merc and the visible differences to me are front suspension and side pods.

[@f1aerodynamicist]

@@BermyBwoy good spot

[@thurbine2411]

0:06 ”gentlemen a short view back to the past”

[@tudor3232]

Love it ❤❤❤

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Thank you madalin

[@CountryModernOK]

"If you have flow separation, God bless your floor!" Ha

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Went a bit extreme there , but it just came out naturally

[@krishnas525]

hey buddy, can you make a video on the basics of aerodynamics? this will really help a lot of people, A playlist if you can

[@f1aerodynamicist]

Yup, coming in April during the race breaks

[@krishnas525]

@@f1aerodynamicist thank you so much🫡

[@SHANTUBE786]

This Video: aerodynamics and suspension Mercedes: Quick, write this down!

[@f1aerodynamicist]

If they write this down... Wait until the next videk

[@SHANTUBE786]

@@f1aerodynamicist oooo.. you got me intrigued, lol

[@mehrdadjamasbnejad4478]

​@F1 Aerodynamicist Hi shub, thanks for your content. Could you please make a video on ferrari's strong and weak points and how hard it is to improve it compared to red bull. Thanks