F1 Explained: How Does Telemetry Data Help Teams Go Faster?

[@TypicallyThomas]

Very clear explanation from Palmer. Very understandable and interesting

[@constantin4958]

I would love to see this telemetry after qualifying. For example last year when Verstappen was much quicker than Albon.

[@ekovahavanen1085]

The teams wouldn't give their telemetry

[@LeoElso]

In Drive To Survive Horner mentions that Gasly is obsessed with telemetry and would always try to read on where he went wrong instead of feeling it on track. what he meant was probably that nothing beats a driver's instinct

[@vdygdb]

@@LeoElso i think he said that just to redirect the attention from his poor results in that car. The car, undoubtedly didn't suit him, but the main issue was he couldn't adapt naturally so therefore tried to rely on telemetry to try and make up time and see where he's going wrong.

[@ilham7345]

I'm afraid this isn't open data. Unlike race stats

[@matejdudjak9969]

I don't we'll ever see it, except if you work for them or have some connection hahaha, this is a really serious thing which tells you also about the car and you wouldn't want other teams to know this.

[@ساره-غ8س2ل]

You and I are all waiting for the 28th of March for the season to start

[@jessjess4565]

And the 19th when DTS comes out

[@james.8060]

@@jessjess4565 less than a week woot

[@flickarod8973]

Hey f1 starts on my bday pogchamps

[@james.8060]

@@flickarod8973 thats awesome =D

[@brakinglate8828]

I remember that I had telemetry too at the hospital

[@zombiealive648]

The wavy or the straight one?

[@frzzzdtm]

@@zombiealive648 yes

[@bigsam9987]

I just imagined your heart hitting the brakes hard 🤣 then accelerating to full speed

[@willyframadhan]

@Federal Bureau of Investigation I remember my dad has the straight one 😥

[@StowGeneral]

@@delusionalbaritone lol I think they mean the ECG/EKG one rather than EEG but I get your point.

[@senhusseneviratne2987]

Imagine the telemetry on Charles Leclerc’s 2019 Singapore pole position lap. 🔼🔽🔼🔽

[@smasher2265]

or the telemetry of the sf1000, they had snaps of oversteer every corner

[@ardarazi8472]

Jolyon Palmer explains is one of my favourite parts of the F1 youtube channel. A real driver talking about real concepts is so educating.

[@OtakuLogan2017]

its a shame Palmer never made the mark when it came to racing at the top. TBF he had probably the worst Renault ever to work with.

[@lockheedmartin286]

Never stop making these

[@wycliffe_ndiba]

We all love graphs. They're pleasing and simple

[@lukavergos3733]

Ahh yes LINES Imagining Turkish GP : 'ಠ_ಠ

[@olliequinn2749]

*lines*

[@austennewitt4583]

📉📈📉📈📉📈LINES

[@oppofindx863]

*W2S has entered the chat*

[@Colin.G]

⛷🤧🥳

[@theuzx7_show]

*I DRAFTED IT, IT THE THING OF BRAZIL IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SEE MY WORK*

[@epgmw]

Thumbs up for F1 to dedicate a video to this telemetry data and awesomely explained by Mr Palmer! As someone working in this field myself, it is great to see how much information basic data can hold and tell in so many different industries.

[@esphilee]

So, the question is, whose chart is this....

[@simvlos]

Esteban Ocon

[@jameshenderson3013]

Fernandos

[@norbertjanssen814]

When they showed the topspeed chart the only ones who got up to 324 kph where the Alpha Tauri's and the Red Bull's.

[@Infiltator2]

@@norbertjanssen814 In Day 1 a lot of drivers got faster because of the wind, so if its form Day1 it could be literally everyone even Raikkonen and Leclerc got past 324

[@TheHarrie93]

Palmer, reads telemetry and concludes: "You have to be alert on a street circuit"

[@MiguelMedV]

_Ah, yes, _*_it's Monaco 2016 time_*_ XdXdXd..._

[@olliequinn2749]

I think they should add a stripe on the williams it should make it quicker

[@zombiealive648]

And martini

[@jameshill8095]

bUt A sTrIpE dOeSn’T mAkE tHe CaR gO fAsTeR!

[@ilham7345]

AMG and NOS sticker too

[@noobplayer_23]

@@jameshill8095 yEs It DoEs

[@QasimAli-to5lk]

We all know stickers add extra horsepower 🙄

[@protopigeon]

Jolyon's analysis is brilliant, really enjoying these

[@RandomDIY4u]

Absolutely fantastic insight and why I love formula 1. More of the same please 👍🏽

[@giogio182]

I'm assuming the "x" coordinates don't indicate TIME but SPACE, since turns are marked as fixed points.

[@TimurIskhodzhanov]

For lap data, x is usually distance.

[@Infiltator2]

Its more useful in as that is static and u can compare lap times.

[@kuhan_gizmo]

*stonks mode activated*

[@mikeymasi]

Steering input to the moon 🚀🚀💎👐

[@QasimAli-to5lk]

📈📈

[@sudijad]

Great content, always nice to learn something new in F1... thanks admin!

[@868CLOUD]

A very indept and brilliantly articulated video Mr. Palmer. Keep up your great work.

[@wrichikbiswas]

Palmer: ...some drivers are better than others Video: Cuts to Lewis

[@dianamaioru497]

I mean, who else to show than the reigning champion?

[@hal9xxx321]

3:40 POV: Russel vs Latifi

[@________4423]

Oh, yeah I know these. I remember when Sergio Perez out Sergio Perezed Sergio Perez.

[@TheGuruNetOn]

It's like looking at a "visual diff" comparison between graphs of benchmark and other kapda laps. Helps in diagnosingwhere the problem lies.

[@Cerulean_Haze]

Actual useful insights into the data behind F1... awesome :D

[@procatprocat9647]

Entertaining and informative. Congrats Jolyon, keep it up!!

[@TheFutureCreator]

I really love this analysis series

[@rhonita]

Really appreciate this video! Anyway, can you add the subtitle to this? It is technical information so it will be help full for us who has limited English ability to understand the engineering side of F1. Thanks!

[@cheech9841]

I'm still stuck on y=Mx+c 😂😂

[@mojoblues66]

Red gaining on the straights, losing in the corners: probably less rear wing.

[@mkieltyperc]

Love this, great insight from Jolyon as always!

[@carvalhoribeiro]

Another great informative content. Thanks for sharing this.

[@eoghanii7049]

Jolyon palmer is brilliant, keep him on!

[@jkimgt]

it botters me that turn right goes up in the graphic, should be down, and turn left up, makes more sense.

[@squeakybunny2776]

At first I agreed then I viewed it in a way that I don't know how to explain and now it makes sense to me that right is up and left is down

[@blackstonedaze8983]

Jolian Palmer rocks ! Keep this going

[@parth1210]

Yes more technical details like these throughout the championship

[@ricardomatos6316]

Excellent explanation of telemetry 👌

[@oxcart4172]

I'm sure in one season it gave u the ideal lap-combining the fastest times through each section. It would be great to see if somebody did a perfect lap

[@striix2725]

Thanks, I am now signing up my new F1 team for 2022! :) Jokes aside, I can't wait until the season starts! It's only a few days to go but it's toooo long!! Also from those data you can actually comprehend a little bit how complex this sport is.

[@advaitnarkar7304]

I understand this much more then I understand physics in school

[@ronaldderooij1774]

Grand Prix 2 had this. You could even enhance it. Wonder why modern simulations have less of that. I used the heck out of it.

[@AKAMustang]

Why is right up and left down? From a top down perspective I'd have thought it make more sense the other way around. Is it because this (or most) tracks are clockwise?

[@reid1420]

Or maybe because right is positive and left is negative?

[@skinnypuppy1288]

Thank you for this. So informative!

[@drummermike89]

This is amazing analysis

[@prakashabraham3136]

Excellent video, thanks

[@carlbinns4816]

Awesome video!

[@aniketmeshram6598]

I would like to see tyre temperature in live time also.... Of different drivers...

[@Dutchbird757]

Very clear and interesting!

[@mariechau8446]

For those curves, in particular the speed curve. How much is it filtered? How do you distinguish noise from the real steering wheel angle?

[@VG-jk2xx]

Wow last time I was this early palmer was driving for Renault 😅

[@abhilashmudgal]

karmaaa

[@avic6069]

It should’ve been: last time I was this early Palmer hadn’t retired

[@concernedviewer6909]

Very insightful stuff

[@user-cg7tj7cu4m]

Can we get the data for Hamilton please?

[@Release-Topic-b4d]

Hamilton actually hasn't completed all his runs... However from the drivers who have completed , there are some conclusions from the data: 1. Honda engine is a bit better than Ferrari 2. Mclaren and Aston are a bit faster then SF21 on the high fuel load (Full race distance fuel on all cars) 3. Mclaren reaches top speed quite quickly , however not all teams are doing Short Performance runs so no idea about qualifying speeds... 4. The Redbull has a bit improvised rear , real improvement 5. Perez data shows that Redbull on the corners and exiting is better than Mclaren , although this run is only compared to Norris as he is the only one who has completed his runs

[@user-cg7tj7cu4m]

@@Release-Topic-b4d ok, thanks! Anything about the merc PU?

[@hansdtenbrukke8565]

@@Release-Topic-b4d Where do you get this information from?

[@el_davd8072]

get out of here ferrari mechanic, you'll have to be smarter to get that information hehe (I'm kidding) :)

[@sanatkapur3281]

@@Release-Topic-b4d How do you know all of this?

[@thedeamonmeteor69420]

Oh yeah, this is big brain time!

[@fatboy070786]

Thank you for this

[@JohnChristianAAnte]

Now I understand the Gran Turismo Time Trial Analysis page

[@notmaldonado]

Image Palmer is your race engineer

[@anidiotinaracingcar]

Having the brake and throttle on the same graph and in the same color isn't too easy to read

[@sjchlnz617]

I focus on this video more than my own data science lecture :') But this is very interesting!

[@sachin6259]

Just shows how complex f1 is 😃 🙂

[@coolthought8456]

May I know what are the data will be available publicly? I like to see if I can use LSTM to predict the outcome of the race. thank you.

[@WindWolf28]

What Palmer is doing?

[@kaleb4240]

Oh I guess I need to reinstall MOTEC for my ACC race prep today :D Thx for reminder

[@lockheedmartin286]

I really really slapped my phone when I saw your profile

[@tingyanchan6383]

5:09 is that a supra?

[@MiguelMedV]

_YOOOOOOOOOOOー！..._

[@paddyneill1964]

Thank you by the way, Bravo Zulu sir.

[@Karstiappen]

Excellent!!

[@FinnKaiden]

That was cool

[@mientasic8192]

It's already end of the pre-season testing. Does any one know how to watch f1 live in the Philippines by tv or by live stream?

[@mpho4729]

Love this kinda info😁🧐🧐🏎️🏎️

[@doodletanki6661]

honestly,id rather have sam collins do analysis too, cos I love his way of delivering information

[@wildtigers25]

absolute gold dust for teams to get hold of also shows telemetry on screen in public youtube video

[@djham2916]

What's the x axis? Distance travelled or location on track? I.e. if the driver takes a different line, is it visible on the data?

[@Totoats]

Pretty sure its explicit data for location on track by the markers of each turn above the graphs. But it would also have implicit data of distance travelled because each turn has different lenghts on the x axis

[@프레디khjfreddy]

How is the delta calculated in that kind of precision?

[@deploy_leroy]

I think it's the benchmark time of a particular driver or car.

[@vikhattangady]

The logging on these cars is on the order of 100Hz or 500 or 1000Hz, so you are getting the distance and other data upto 1000 times a second, or getting data every millisecond. So if you take a certain distance, you can get the time taken to reach that distance down to millisecond precision. Difference in these times across different laps can give you a delta in millisecond precision

[@프레디khjfreddy]

@@vikhattangady according to your explanation, there must be a gps capable of updating positional data at 1000hz which is highly impossible. And if the data comes from track side, there must be countless tracker or something. I think there should be something else

[@vikhattangady]

@@프레디khjfreddy Data from wheel speed sensor can come in that fast, and when GPS data comes in, that can be used to correct the distance data

[@harryh2185]

I didn't understand how the benchmark is determined. Is it determined in a simulator as being the ideal or just the performance of the other team's driver?

[@rykooo19040]

As to my knowledge you dont have the telemetry from other teams, so the information has to come from your team. In this case its from the same driver from an earlier lap

[@harryh2185]

@@rykooo19040 Makes sense. So it is not the determined ideal time by a computer simulation.

[@rykooo19040]

@@harryh2185 Correct, as the simulation would probably have different track and weather conditions, which makes a comparison next to useless

[@smydiehard99]

a word, beautiful.

[@kalvinchen7905]

Actually what happen to the car debris after crash? What if some team is able to steal some crucial parts and fit it to their car and manage to improve their car?

[@mr.goodcat582]

Teams don’t pick up the debris from the track, marshals do.

[@TheGamerTim]

Fascinating

[@govind9402]

F1 is more complex than NASA

[@theuzx7_show]

*I DRAFTED IT, IT THE THING OF BRAZIL IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SEE MY WORK*

[@maggie3664]

F1 making charts interesting. Schools should learn something

[@Frank15982]

The drivers offer qualitative data, but the telemetry offers quantitative data

[@mrbungle3310]

Explain sandbaggs nexts,and why Mercedes are known for using them??

[@mr.goodcat582]

Are you for real?

[@DerNesor]

I see Palmer I like

[@paddyneill1964]

Is this what the drivers are looking at when in the garage with computer screens on the car ?

[@keio5274]

What is it they say? You're either quick enough to race or you end up teaching? 🤔🤣

[@shanmukhreddy1095]

Dont lie, when we were kids we were all trying to draw our heartbeats at the back of our notebook.

[@letsseetofindout2560]

I didn't but I'm still a kid

[@callumparker3293]

Who tf did that?

[@austinobambino1360]

Not lying when I say I didn't do that

[@NippyMoto]

This is Stroll's data

[@sparkshot289]

Where is Palmer?

[@hamirthapar6788]

THeRE Is PALMer!!!!!!!!!!

[@bsit_1caxisvillena683]

Where's Palmer

[@pangarsoariwibowo8817]

So, is there still a natural driver? Without all that telemetry data in his head.

[@Aelistas01]

where is palmer?

[@kuhan_gizmo]

fernando,palmer has retired

[@zombiealive648]

Karma

[@kuhan_gizmo]

he cut the chicken

[@blademuci]

BUY THE DIP!!!

[@analogikkortex]

looking at the matrix

[@piotrkobielus6156]

F1

[@halikarnasbalkcs2421]

5 seconds penalty its a yoke a yoke

[@LudenB]

Sick

[@thijskennis8757]

This must have been Ferrari cause they're the only team that actually hit 324 km/h. Bet Ferrari didnt think of that when they gave this trace away

[@mr.goodcat582]

Bet Ferrari would never share any data.

[@halikarnasbalkcs2421]

He cut the chicken

[@TVTika]

rfactor lovers/motec

[@morturiom9651]

The cheap version of the sky pad

[@Aditya-xk4lk]

ahh when the presenter is also a science student