F1 Nurburgring 1967 (onboard)

Nurburgring 1967 onboard camera.

[@kzbxvz]

The real green hell before any barriers or safety measures at all, the drivers of this era must have had balls of steel.

[@mightymoto453]

Gotta love how they're using joyful music when this track be dangerous af

[@A-dood]

Now it's dangerous, back then it was basically just a road with no barrier

[@mightymoto453]

It was more dangerous then than now ya goof@@A-dood

[@thebritishempire8754]

​@@A-dood in this footage it's downright deadly.

[@swedishgeese.1]

@@A-doodThat, that’s still dangerous?

[@hooolas1]

That was a truly green hell because of those forest and tall trees!

[@arride4590]

Yes, europeans destroyed their forests and now they worry about climate change.

[@elosobratto3802]

The bumps, the twist, the elevation, truly hell

[@Atticvs32]

Yea - Funny how nowadays it seems more overgrown again, having been laid a lot more bare during the 1971 renovations!

[@jeffrielly]

0:44 "there's the lone rebel tree, HELLO REBEL TREE!" Jimmy Broadbent

[@tiziano316]

What you mean?

[@jeffrielly]

@@tiziano316 watch him doing sim laps around this track, and you'll see

[@getnaenaed4222]

I think Rebel Tree comes a little later down the straight. He probably a lil sapling.

[@jakecole7447]

Rebel Tree is much much further down the road.

[@tiziano316]

@@jeffrielly I still don't understand

[@SecretPesch]

The soundtrack they used makes it looks like an episode of Wacky Races or SpeedRacer

[@raulrondontorrivilla6211]

and sounds like Batman 60's tv series too😀😀😀

[@morganmccabe3252]

That's some real skill 👌👏

[@30firebirds]

That's a Formula Vee (the camera car) on track with Hahne's F2 entry. Maybe I should dust off my old Zink C4 and enter it in the 1968 German Grand Prix.

[@epickett63]

Man, I got GPL flashbacks watching that... :-)

[@riderofthemark6661]

I came here to learn the track for Gpl still a great game to play with mods

[@thechief00]

almost no safety barriers at all and solid earth walls less than a foot from the track at some points...yikes. don't screw up or you'll go straight into a stone wall at 150km/h!

[@KanoValentine]

One mistake and its death.

[@violoncelo1000]

My precious ttrack... hours and hours fighting against my ghost on gran turismo

[@thirstyhorse7803]

What the hell?? That's ONE lap? How could the drivers remember all the twists, turns and bumps?

[@thechief00]

it's a hard course even in video game racing...can't imagine how tough that must have been to do IRL in the 60s when there was basically zero margin for error.

[@tommallon4052]

They managed, after all, the Isle of Man TT is almost three times longer, and the riders have it memorized.

[@weltvonoben]

You need to drive it in your imagination, always and always, every corner. Took me nearly a year to learn every section.

[@hi_c.v7289]

Not too hard after a few laps tbh

[@curtcodein6486]

@@hi_c.v7289 YEAH WORLD CHAMP 🤡

[@MemphiStig]

I'd love a full lap onboard of that track, but this was very cool.

[@murrayallinger2830]

51 Driver deaths on this track before the last Gran Prix race was held in 1976, the race in which Niki Lauda was so badly burned in a horrendous crash. After that, the track was completely redesigned to make it much shorter and safer.

[@bowelrupture]

To be correct: The Start-Ziel Schleife was demolished to create a new and safer circuit: The GP-Strecke. And this track can be connected to the Nordschleife to create the Gesamtstrecke (Full CIrcuit). The Nordschleife only got updates and upgrades that existed of new tarmac, more armco and FIA fences at spectator points.

[@hotvic576]

Way better with all this wonderful threes ^^

[@redline1420]

That's terrifying

[@r4winstincts947]

Incredible

[@janarnold5569]

Imagine that track on a motorcycle. I reckon you don't have to show your balls in any other way

[@hmdwgf]

They did race GP bikes (now MotoGP) here a number of times; the last time being 1980. The 1970 GP- where a rider was killed was the last motorcycle race on this version of the Nordschleife before it was modernized.

[@erichrostek102]

That Formula Vee car onboard....!!

[@avada0]

So much more atmosphere...

[@tommallon4052]

The camera car is a Formula VW.

[@jimmckillip]

I thought I recognized that good old beam axle! FVee for the win!

[@carneassada9122]

Those cars with those skinny ass wheels, how couls the drivers have such skills

[@hmdwgf]

“It’s hairy alright!” Yeah no shit it is!

[@progamertv466]

Those front tyres won't give the car enough grip

[@Aesh-om2sz]

well as it turns out they apparently did give the car enough front end grip lol

[@ethanweeter2732]

14 mile lap, I believe.

[@BarackObama-to3ht]

Yep

[@bowelrupture]

14.189 miles or 22.835 km

[@neinneinnein4741]

That's not race pace, is it?

[@yarde4829]

This with a newer hatch back would be the most fun ever

[@Javi93]

Hola heikki

[@NPA1001]

Insanity

[@karlmoody4891]

Wacky Races

[@tiziano316]

these are not 1967 season f1 cars. they are some minor formula or 1962/65

[@hmdwgf]

Formula Vee (VW engines) is the camera car, the car in front is an F2 car I think

[@tiziano316]

@@hmdwgf 1967 not 1987..i ve corrected the previous message

[@bowelrupture]

@@hmdwgf Yes, the Formula Vee car follows Hubert Hahne's Formula 2 entry. In 1967, the grid was a combined Formula 1 and Formula 2 field.

[@wor53lg50]

Is it this track that was to dangerous and drivers refused to race and went on strike if changes wasnt made to the track and safety after mike hawthorn burnt to death?..

[@troyvirgona8738]

You might be thinking of Roger Williamson but that wasn't this track. He died in a fiery crash at Zandvoort in 1973. He survived the initial crash but was trapped in the fire and perished after a slow response from track officials and emergency services. This led to increased safety demands from drivers that did eventually impact the Nurburgring. The FIA and Drivers began seriously questioning the Nurburgring / Nordschleife track by the 70's and it was decided it would be dropped for the 1977 session due to logistics and safety concerns. In the last race in '76, reigning champion Niki Lauda attempted to lead a boycott due to poor safety arrangements, but the drivers voted for the race to go on and Lauda famously crashed in poor conditions. He was trapped in his burning car before fellow drivers helped rescue him. He suffered serious burns to his face, lung damage, and given a slim chance of survival. But Lauda fought hard and only missed two races before returning. He died in 2019, partly as a result of the lingering damage to his lungs, and F1 races have never been back on the Nordschleife. (Mike Hawthorn retired from racing following the 1958 season and died three months later in a car crash on public roads in England. His teammate Peter Collins died at this track that season after losing control and being thrown from the car.)

[@hmdwgf]

It was Peter Collins, Hawthorn’s best friend who died here. But they eventually boycotted the Nurburgring some years later.

[@bowelrupture]

The GPDA managed to boycot the Spa Francorchamps track in 1969 and the Nürburgring in 1970, when they went to Hockenheim. They demanded safety measures. The Nürburgring acted after the boycot and the track got a major overhaul in 1970/1971. Corners were eased, bumps and drops removed like at Brünnchen and Schwalbenschwanz. Armco added around the track. Also the GPDA would check every 3 years if new changes were needed. So after the first three years 1971-73, they demanded new changes: The Döttinger Höhe had to be reprofiled, 8m became 12m wide and the viaducts became tunnels. Also the entry of the Südschleife changed a lot. After the next three years, 1974-76, the GPDA decided not to return to the Nordschleife in 1977. This decision was made before the actual 1976 German GP. So Lauda's crash was no factor in the decision to leave the Nürburgring after 1976.