Top 10 Cheeky F1 Innovations

[@MethmalDhananjaya]

FIA : _"Fine , You can do it, Approved"_ *Team wins* FIA : _"Ok, Remove it right now. Banned."_

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

Team come up with good idea. Implement good idea into something that can be used on their car. Car does better. Everybody tries to copy it. FIA bans it. The circle of F1 "innovation".

[@oneofthoseguys4936]

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Almost spot on. Everybody tries it, yet they still fail... Then everybody cries then FIA bans

[@echobounce2945]

this is why i don't like F1. would be so much more interesting if they didn't ban everything.

[@DentArhurDent]

@@oneofthoseguys4936 All it takes is for Ferrari to cry to get a ban, unfortunately.

[@DentArhurDent]

@@echobounce2945 I understand having rules, but the pattern is that rules are set out at the beginning of a season, one or two teams innovate something that doesn't QUITE break the rules, then everyone who just lost the race cry foul. Also some of the innovations are sometimes legitimately dangerous.

[@MRF2492]

F1 team: *Modern problems require modern solutions* FIA: *Wait. That's illegal*

[@ronsilverstone6817]

But if you are Mecedes, it's OK

[@indranigomes9874]

@@ronsilverstone6817 FIA banned Mercedes' pseudo active suspension around 2016.

[@MRF2492]

@@ronsilverstone6817 *perhaps*

[@Puffin_777]

They're like, "We are the most modern form of racing, so let's discourage innovation."

[@dred_dreamr]

Combining two memes: *cha cha real smooth*

[@luuk341]

F1: We want teams to innovate and create clever solutions to make faster cars! Team: *Makes incredible discovery and gains massive benefits* F1: CEASE YOUR ACTIONS IMMEDIATELY! YOU ARE BANNED!

[@fosso8803]

But half of these were banned because other teams immediately started crying like little bitches

[@OfficialAnarchyz]

@@fosso8803 Pretty much like you are, by pasting the same comment everywhere on this video?

[@swapiti2XKO]

Cause team donc think of safety, they think about performance

[@fosso8803]

@@OfficialAnarchyz I posted it 2 times.

[@fosso8803]

@@OfficialAnarchyz Which makes sense because there are several top comments that all say the same

[@name5798]

Mclaren: Adds rear brake pedal FIA: Cool Ferrari: Uncool FIA: Uncool

[@Dubious_Dubs]

Yeah bit of a shame that one.

[@ahmedzarin2247]

some oversimplified action

[@Lazbotable]

Ferrari International Assistance

[@cohenmurray5766]

@@Lazbotable oh how things have changed🤣

[@longfang98]

Mclaren's solution when Ferrari is ahead = send engineer's wife to Kenko's

[@meusel007]

The damped front wing is a masterpiece of engineering. It's a shame that the FIA banned those.

[@htasarp1]

That should be number one.

[@shaami8622]

Imagine it crashing and the weights inside flung out aimlessly towards unlucky bystanders.... Now you know why they banned it.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

@@shaami8622 Really.. I mean that's not the only thing that can go wrong and impale someone. I thought the point was to look for safest possible implementation. By your logic, none of the cars should even be on the grid. 🤔

[@FightingTorque411]

@@shaami8622 I dunno, that seems as likely to happen with any other part of the car in a crash

[@TheTororist]

@@daisaigaming6836 but the wing is made to be easily removable. making it more dangerous in a crash if it had a weight

[@kaj9134]

FIA: We encourage teams to innovate their cars Also FIA: Nah let's ban this

[@marcomolinari94]

Well, tbh FIA bans where caused by the majority of the other teams that started protesting all these innovations...

[@campkira]

well it is legal before and now it is not... alot of tech can not go on real car since it not on a race track and you can not go fast to get those effect...

[@clareatkinson9528]

luuk341 called, he wants his joke back

[@FareastSN]

@@cucumber_zucker Because there's nothing on the current regulation that regulate the steering wheel, lol. Not like what (commonly, I don't say all) Ferrari fans theorized, they're not just wheelie-nilly on banning parts, it's always because of the regulation that in works at the time (which is pretty ironic coming from a Ferrari fans, but that's just my opinion.) That's also the reason why DAS is banned next season, because there's already a regulation about the steering position even before Merc revealed the DAS.

[@acehardy3629]

To be honest in the pursuit of speed and downforce, eventually it gets too dangerous, the old ground effect, and wherever fans would have lead would simply be death traps

[@rhodrage]

F1 Team: Innovates FIA: That's not allowed

[@der_baerlauch]

FIA: Wait, that's illegal!

[@Nefus1988]

unless the team is called Mercedes

[@IIApollyonII]

@@Nefus1988 or Ferrari

[@keshav4203]

@@IIApollyonII no they changed the tyre policy in 2005 to stop ferrai

[@Akniy]

Most of these "innovations" were dangerous and/or impractical

[@graze1177]

F1 is basically like this. Other teams : *invent mods that maximize car's performance* FIA : i like it Ferrari : i don't like it FIA : i don't like it

[@michelebalogh2829]

I think that today isn't Ferrari but Mercedes

[@Mr.Scootini]

Ferrari international assist AKA FIA

[@LeprosuGnome]

Literally

[@Dustiercobra204]

@@michelebalogh2829 more like red bull

[@0megalul309]

more like "Hamilton: I don't like it" nowadays

[@jesperpsv98]

FIA: thats a nice bit of innovation you have there Be a shame if someone BANNED IT

[@fosso8803]

But half of these were banned because other teams immediately started crying like little bitches

[@Randomvideos-zi7pe]

Nice inventions you have Shame we gonna ban that thing Next season next next season

[@nemesis-music]

Fosso no, cause Ferrari complained. F.I.A. stands for Ferrari International Assistance

[@Blue_Pumpkin]

😂😂

[@republikpropaganda2319]

😂👌

[@AcornFox]

1. Innovate 2. Win 3. Get Banned 4. Mercedes 1-2

[@lmbtcs1879]

Mustakrakish yea f1 is so boring nowadays

[@habdman]

Not at all verstappen and leclerc are good

[@AcornFox]

Chorisiyo mongolo They are. I’m a fan of both. Have you seen this season tho?

[@hoob1810]

ng jason has

[@Johnson09641]

Its good these days, the young drivers are really interesting and actually bring something new to f1

[@EJ0723]

FIA: "we will ban anything that makes cars unsafe..." Team 1: "our innovation makes grip more consistent in the corners!" Team 2: "our innovation increases down force for more grip!" FIA: "...those are banned too"

[@Storiaron]

Something to consider is that whatever they're using should consistently give similar grip/downforce etc. E.g. skirts could get chipped away on bumpers/off track and then suddenly the car had massively less downforce than the drivers expected. Flying them off at the next fast turn

[@brodewall5641]

Storiaron oh you mean like wings and tires? Ya know, the things that get broken off and punctured mid corner all the time??? Yeah, the cars shouldn’t have those either

[@TT-zi5st]

Downforce wasn't really safe. Once the car got too far off the ground the ground effect turned into lift and would somersault the car.

[@cinegraphics]

Since 2014, if Mercedes invents something then it's approved by FIA. If their competitors invent something FIA bans it immediately.

[@PhilGerb93]

@@cinegraphics they banned das dude.

[@daft5k658]

F1 car: moves FIA: no

[@Matrix_prime84]

1.1k likes and no replies? Let me fix that.

[@Lucky8s]

2006: Renault's mass damper banned Gasly in 2019: there's a lot of *vibraaaaaAAAaatiooooon*

[@woohoo3813]

well, that was because those tyres were square

[@kaptnhansenpresidentjamaic9577]

The 2006 Renault was a smoooooooth operator!

[@AlexTheG71]

I have a lot of vibration on this seeeeee- set

[@jstoli996c4s]

Lol 😂

[@themarauder6108]

Harmless device that improve the cars performance and if anything, made it safer for them to drive.

[@crisrose9707]

"The design was deemed to be legal before being banned..."

[@MyFamilyFoodGarden]

It seems that the opposition teams can't handle superior development. Teams complain FIA backs the majority everytime.

[@TeletubbiesRcute]

FIA is probably retired ATF staff

[@somerandomdudeable]

When Ferrari protested

[@PYLrulz1984]

I will agree, there always seemed to be a touch of politics that was bullshit, but there were a few that one can safely argue was for safety purposes.

[@vexedpixels]

PYLrulz1984 and those safety flaws were only there to get around other bullshit laws

[@jordanstriker1656]

Tyrrell: We have a 6 wheel car FIA: No, you have a 5 second penalty

[@fedealbanello]

HAHAHAHAHAA

[@noah321]

Fede Albanello it really wasn’t that funny

[@AcornFox]

@@noah321 "Fade Albanello, I didn't find this as funny as you did. Just wanted to let you know. Cheers." FTFY

[@thibaud57]

@@AcornFox thanks for reporting that Noah didn't found that too funny

[@wilton999]

Ban this comment... For not being found that funny..!

[@rosstaylor1039]

The basic rule of thumb for technical innovation: - Team comes up with genius solution - Everyone tries to copy it - Ferrari fail to copy it successfully - Ferrari lobby the FIA to ban it - The FIA ban it

[@bensmith6554]

Ferrari International Assistance

[@marciolcasagrande]

And yet Ferrari does not win a F1 championship since 2007

[@Xiphactinus]

@@marciolcasagrandeBefore you see how Ferrari is run you wonder how they haven't won everything, after seeing it, you wonder how they win anything.

[@Zack_410]

Yet we haven't won since 2007

[@catcoder12]

Still can't win

[@darshanambule6741]

Ferrari: We can drive without hands but a wing damper that's unacceptable.

[@IIGrayfoxII]

in lemongrabs voice. using wing damper is unacceptable, UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@iBoss818]

How dare McLaren have another brake pedal!

[@tonypasma1707]

Shut up

[@lmao7439]

FIA stands for ferrari international assistance

[@core_russell3869]

A double diffuser that isn't dangerous and doesnt improve the car that much FIA mm that's a ban for me

[@Deamon93IT]

So many engineering solutions, all of them banned. Granted some presented actual safe issues (F ducts, X wings) but others were just a way to stifle innovation

[@kutayarcan911]

I think the ground effects skirts and the fan car were dangerous too. Skirts were too unpredictable in bumpy situations and the fan threw small debris to the cars behind. Other than that, stuff like double diffusers and mass dampers are genius.

[@santijmm]

@@kutayarcan911 The debris thing was made up by the other teams so that the FIA would ban it. It was not really an issue.

[@Deamon93IT]

@@kutayarcan911 the main issue there was the loss in downforce in case of damage, which to be fair was a safety risk. That too I can understand but the third pedal, the mass damper and double diffuser were banned because it was easier for the other teams

[@Kubickz]

The Lotus Type 88 was the safest car on the grid, they banned it because other teams whinned about it, nothing else.

[@The_Curious_Cat]

What safe issues did the F-duct had? And if you mean because the drivers had to use their hands that was the teams fault being stupid by using their hands. There´s a reason Mclaren´s system used the side of the leg and not their hands...

[@chungdha]

All these banned innovations feels like, its slowing down any innovations by doing this. Would have wondered if they did not ban them how different the cars might have become and also how much more innovations could have gone out of those innovations as they would have try to improve them over time.

[@depax95]

Makes me sad inside. So much new stuff waiting, but fia just swinging away on the ban hammer..

[@jasonandriulaitis7885]

A lot of the older ones were banned for safety concerns, but I do agree with you.

[@dutchclasher5471]

most were banned after senna's death because the cars simply were too quick for the safety of that time. remember they were racing 750+hp, super light cars that didn't even have a speedometer, let alone any form of traction control etc. drivers also sat with their feet over the front axis, meaning that if they crashed into a wall they'd often break their ankles.

[@angussiegloff5238]

How would a speedometer make a car in anyway safer. When your racing you don’t care what the speedo says.

[@marconotonfacebook3480]

@@dutchclasher5471 I understand that safety is an issue. But climbing mountains without oxygen or ropes is not safe but still a thing. And it does sound a bit silly - To limit speed potential in a sport were going as fast as possible is the objective.

[@rocket2739]

how to go faster in corners ? other teams : develop aerodynamics and suspensions Lotus : S U C C

[@kirisaki.777]

downfloorce

[@PantonePapi]

😂

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

gotta love that discovery of ground effect

[@choppergunner8650]

Brabham: B I G S U C C

[@m.z.2956]

What did we learn? Be creative, innovate, find solutions to problems and the FIA will ban it no matter what

[@toka100]

Blaze Z Or just hide it from Ferrari. They seemed to be the reason a lot of these were banned. Once they start getting beaten it was ban time.

[@pikachu8508]

@@toka100 Because they owned Ferrari's idiotic Authority

[@mrbones2235]

Be polite, Be efficient, Have a plan to get your car banned by the FIA

[@TTTT-hk9qb]

The illusion of choices

[@carlosb1]

That is why F1 sucks now.

[@chrissdevano]

Chapman: Hey look at this new... FIA: BANNED

[@TheEvapiiShow]

Brabham: Look at this fancar! Chapman: Wait, that's illegal

[@ChrisMisMYhandle]

@@TheEvapiiShow the regulations stated that a fan whos primary use was to provide aerodynamic effect was illegal. When designing it Murray went for the loophole that its primary use was for cooling. Although difficult to disprove this was obviously bullshit so they agreed to remove it before court proceedings etc

[@pharmit24]

Me: Hi FIA: Banned

[@ZaferArslan]

mercedes:hi fia:hi

[@petrichorthoughts]

Zafer Arslan accurate.

[@aryenboi8554]

lol 1k likes 3 comments 😂

[@jenniferholden9397]

Or as it’s more commonly known Ferrari Banned. Any race team trying any new innovation better ask Ferrari if they approve first.

[@CrisPBacon-zy6wh]

-breathes FIA: Banned

[@wtfduud]

It makes me so angry when these innovations get banned. These cars are supposed to push the limits of mechanical engineering.

[@abdurrahmanusman2498]

But you wanna make a car faster rather than keep their lives in safe hands.there's a reason there were not many deaths and injuries in f1.

[@gemirgo451]

FIA: No

[@7kAndyy]

@@abdurrahmanusman2498 yes but something like a wheel vibration dampener could be very beneficial at these speeds, so we cant just apply that to everything

[@abdurrahmanusman2498]

@@7kAndyy yea youre not wrong.

[@solless2504]

Exactly it’s a constructors championship if you don’t want innovation and new ideas they should just make everyone run the same engines and chassis like Indy car.

[@mukiribu]

Active suspension was the master idea

[@MrtinVarela]

Honestly I can't believe it didn't make the list.

[@DanNW247]

yeah was it!!

[@oscarsibanda9454]

Lucas Valeriano The active suspension lured Ayton to Williams!

[@wildwilco]

unfortunately back in those days the active suspension computers wherent smart/fast enough to handle the data... so there where crashes involving the active suspension THINKING it was on a different part of the track than it actually was...

[@kobe7211]

Oscar Sibanda exactly in the year it was banned😂

[@theforcer1762]

I really don't get why some things are banned. F1 should be the absolute best cars and engineering

[@first1153]

Yes look at those shitty marvels. Impressive are they.

[@probablynotabigtoe9407]

If it makes the car faster without compromising safety then it should be allowed.

[@idklike3210]

Porkchop Sandwiches especially the dampers. It minimises take off as cars can’t fly up into the sky when hitting kerbs and definitely minimises loss of control. There has been multiple cases of cars hitting kerbs at high speed making micro bounces and sending them to their other side. If a car just behind it is going 180 mph. Lets say it wouldn’t be the most fanciest thing...

[@DAGATHire]

ye, and 9 out of 10 of these things were clever engineering solutions and indeed LEGAL! as per the rules at the time. yet the video title calls them CHEEKY.... which is frankly retarded title for this video. It should be celebrating the engineers and their cleverness.

[@alexio1942]

i think its a cost thing, where when 1 team develops a new system all the other teams have to try and keep up with whoever is raising the bar

[@zacharyzier314]

F1 Team: Innovates FIA: “We don’t do that here”

[@gustajuy5983]

F1 Engineers: extremely clever and ingenious technology to make their car go faster FIA: is this cheating?

[@Gsauce08]

*Ferrari

[@thizzobishi]

Imagine the ultimate f1 car that had all the innovations they wanted.

[@josephpbrown]

So the Red Bull X series from Gran Turismo?

[@thizzobishi]

@@josephpbrown think beyond the rules but yes that's a great start more rbx fan car and I'm sure they could keep going

[@huracan200173]

it would have to be driven by a robot, too many G's haha

[@faeinthebay]

A lot of these innovations wouldn't work well together. They're in response to a very specific set of rules for each season.

[@PriyoM1993]

Go watch LMP¹

[@example2844]

4:37 this has to be the greatest thing anyone in formula one has ever said

[@sinuslebastian6366]

He's spitting straight facts

[@msfakianos]

and this is why i hate ferrari through the jean todt era (along with Schumi's unsportsmanship). very sore losers.

[@gallahant]

Well yes. In fact he happily rose to the technical challenge in 2007. Such a hypocrite.

[@poopipeboy3033]

Engineers: "Hey, you know what we could do...." **Car goes faster with new upgrade** FIA: "AYYY STOP"

[@randomdehemptinne6647]

Ferrari uses 2 engines FIA: cool Other teams make minor changes FIA: banned

[@giambasamba5206]

comedy highest level here

[@kirstyfreeland4491]

Why do you put it as the number 2?

[@onies811]

Imagine if these arent banned, each team would've unique and different looks just like galaxy races or whatever

[@kenlykkeslett7501]

If unlimited ground effects, combined with 4 wheel drive and fans at the back, f-ducts and all kinds of aerodevices the cars would be too fast for a human to handle. Not sure how that would be to watch

[@elijahekiridzo8956]

Ken Lykkeslett it would be interesting to watch 😂

[@Metal-Possum]

Elon Musk would probably enter the race in his Falcon Heavy if that were the case...

[@allothernamesbutthis]

@@kenlykkeslett7501 more interesting than today. think of the engineering marvels that would used to create the insane tracks required. im surprised there has not been a no restriction series yet.

[@FellianTheDragon]

You'd have something like the Red Bull X from Gran Turismo

[@Cloud_Jonin]

Why is Eddie Jordan wearing swimming goggles lol

[@adrianalprin5752]

The late 90s and early 2000s was a funny time for fashion it was cool but now just google any celebrity from that time period and you'll cringe 😂

[@Cloud_Jonin]

@@adrianalprin5752 I know extremely baggy jeans used to be a thing especially in America 😂

[@uniwasamistake6334]

Today's lesson: British engineers are top madmen

[@mostafaelmadany8046]

that goggle looks like romain grojean 's goggles

[@Guldrimand]

He sweats alot

[@mattg5878]

Engineers: we have this great innovation Ferrari: we didn’t invent it. Must be illegal. Ban it FIA: Yeah Ferrari don’t like it so banned

[@sierraacharlie]

M G This just sounds like the FIA is just following Ferrari’s rules

[@arftrooper44]

Invent

[@philipmeisterl]

M G i like how when ferrari is literally cheating like last year nothing happenes sad thing is they are still loosing

[@aussieaudir8lms871]

@@sierraacharlie they wanted ban 2004 ferrari model so bad tho

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

FIA: Well you know... Ferrari said they’ll leave if we don’t ban it... and what merch would we sell then?... BANNED

[@nicolasbocchino3761]

Wait so Renault makes a genius addition to their car, but it doesn’t work so well for other teams so the fia bans it? Really ?

[@MediHusky]

No it's because they're french and the FIA hate the french.

[@seco000]

@@MediHusky isn't the FIA French?

[@MediHusky]

@@seco000 Of course. I don't see how that is important, but yes.

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

@@MediHusky they don't hate the French, they love the red Italians...

[@MediHusky]

@@y_fam_goeglyd I know, it's possible to have two things.

[@motorriderd6834]

F1 Team: i have a great and interesting idea that will help the car’s performance FIA : wait that’s illegal

[@jwenting]

or rather "it's not illegal but we ban it anyway because ferrari doesn't like it".

[@anthonymigliaccio3492]

6:18 “It shouldn’t be illegal, but because we’re not as good as they are we don’t want them racing unless we all get to copy them, but that’s to expensive, so just retire the car”

[@huracan200173]

If the price is prohibitive to the rest of the teams, it creates a monopoly, not good for the sport. I know it's "unfair", but otherwise the sport would be boring with the same team winning everything always.

[@N4ch0]

@@huracan200173 so... basically the entire hybrid era?

[@SilverEye91]

But that's entirely reasonable. Seriously. What kind of sport do you want? One where only the rich teams can win? How boring is that?

[@cinegraphics]

This video is missing the last 6 years, where it goes like this: - "Mercedes invented it and FIA approved it" - "Some other team invented it, Mercedes complained and FIA banned it"

[@EnderMalcolm]

@@huracan200173 Mercedes.

[@shakey4581]

FIA: Formula 1 is not a spec series, the teams can upgrade their car to extract their maximum potential! Teams: *do exactly that* FIA: **BANNED**

[@ardijanuar2036]

Yes team can extract as much performance, from set off writen formula of rules. Not just outrageous innovation war which lead to whichever got the most money win and no small teams interested in competing. Loose regulation will just create wacky racing.

[@claycopter]

@@ardijanuar2036 These are not outrageous and more often than not, poor teams that are desperate get the most out of them. Tyrrell and Brawn for example.

[@TheRagingStorm98]

@Yt_User#911 umm do you know how F1 works everyone but the big three are poor by comparison. So in my opinion these sneaky advantages leveled the playing field between rich and poor teams

[@mauriciolandos4712]

@@ardijanuar2036 most of the times they banned innovations when the small teams invented it, and a big team claim it should not be legal

[@tbt0380]

The double diffuser and the mass damper were absolutely GENIUS innovations by small teams, and look at the results. Either the FIA or bigger teams' protests made it illegal.

[@dannybrennan31]

As a novice to F1 I learned from this video that the governing body of F1 is primarily interested in limiting competition between the top tier teams and the mid tier teams. As soon as a mid tier team comes up with an innovation to get an edge on the top tier teams the governing body steps in due to influence by the top tier teams to outlaw these new innovations. As an engineer this practice seems competitively counterintuitive to the spirit of motorsports

[@yaxo11]

imagine haas developing something, it will be banned in seconds, toto and horner will protest in heartbeat :D

[@swapnilmankame]

@@yaxo11 50 years of History says, it's only ferrari that fails to keep up and innovate, thus bans... like the another commenter said, The basic rule of thumb for technical innovation: - Team comes up with genius solution - Everyone tries to copy it - Ferrari fail to copy it successfully - Ferrari lobby the FIA to ban it - The FIA ban it Ferrari: We can drive without hands but a wing damper is unacceptable. similar to the DAS system by Mercedes.

[@PixelledCheese]

Please re-name it to "10 Moments FIA banned cars for out-smarting the competition"

[@stevelavergne2852]

The Brabham Fan Car was neer banned. In fact, Gordon Murray has a letter from the FIA saying it was legal. They withdrew it because the other owners told Bernie they would quit F1 if he didn't end the program.

[@andrewdanieldjapri2075]

@@stevelavergne2852 Murray said that Bernie did it for politics

[@stevelavergne2852]

@@andrewdanieldjapri2075 Yes, to appease the other teams.

[@MrAlex310393]

Using water with lead to increase your weight is not "out-smarting the competition", it's cheating.

[@devanshkalia9072]

@@MrAlex310393 yes but things like active suspension and double diffuser should not have been banned

[@bashirsfar3825]

F1 team: Creates a cool innovation that makes the race interesting FIA: lemme just *YEET* that out of here

[@tissot233]

That makes no sense. Brawn won the whole season because of one innovation and people were complaining that it was boring. Now you are seeing the same with Mercedes, Red Bull before and Ferrari before it. This people is the exact reason why fans should never be making the rules. It's just knee jerk reactions.

[@TheGowre]

Ddpoprupf

[@bizarrefruit]

@@tissot233 Exactly what I thought, well said.

[@alanscharfstein6932]

Innovation: *exists* FIA: “I’m about to end this man’s whole career.

[@DeadBaron]

Same problem NASCAR has. F1 and NASCAR are so boring and stupid now.

[@akbarpatel377]

Alan Scharfstein .... n

[@GhostEye31]

Ironic that the gadget that really affected safety, making drivers drive one handed wasn't banned by the FIA but by agreement amongst the teams

[@shona5512]

FIAs tagline. "F1: Where Innovation comes to die."

[@skyscall]

Love it. Just imagine what we could have, had a few these developments and innovations been kept in the sport and given time to develop If we had today's F1 leadership in 1968 they probably would have banned downforce-generating wings altogether when Lotus first used downforce to gain an advantage

[@MyFamilyFoodGarden]

@@skyscall It's sad about the majority of the developments being banned, although I am happy to not have 6 or 8 wheeler F1 cars, that'd be way too bizarre.

[@praetorian3902]

@@MyFamilyFoodGarden lol I was thinking the same, but in the end I'd be like "ahhh hell, let's allow it to see what they come up with next". I mean they can always split the racing category in 2, normal and 20 wheelers lol

[@justauserwatchingytonipadk6438]

Teams: This meets all regulations, they can’t ban this! FIA: well yes but actually no.

[@LPChipi]

Actual title: "How the FIA actively, regularly and consistently keeps innovation down in F1"

[@SolidSonicTH]

The FIA seems to think the way to revolutionize the sport and shake up the grid is to just redo the whole chassis every few years rather than letting teams just invent new things to keep things fresh. I guess it's because the FIA's interest is close racing but the constructors' interest is in constructor points. Those two things work against each other when it comes to establishing rules that allow inventive solutions but promotes wheel-to-wheel action.

[@steenkool7827]

The best one didn't make the list: active suspension by Williams in 1992.

[@Faisal__1998]

Senna dislike this because Computer playing not a Racer driving..

[@1greenMitsi]

lotus developed it

[@soldornot]

Later Fric was the new solution, when active suspensions got banned, wasn't it?

[@Spyker8921]

@@soldornot yep

[@StanceSantos]

No blown diffuser either :(

[@Blackout201_]

F1 Engineers: developing amazing new parts for their cars FIA after it gets popular and anyone does it: WAIT, THAT´S ILLEGAL

[@jakk222]

Team 1: This is revolutionary for us! Team 2: That’s illegal, ban it! *Next season* Team 2: This is revolutionary for us! Team 1: That’s illegal, ban it!

[@brocaraton]

These aren’t cheeky-they’re innovative.

[@joupoes6092]

Hence innovations

[@joupoes6092]

Unless you mean ingenious

[@MrGamma789]

Henry the title which says innovations

[@ringoferrer2343]

Read the last word of the title of the video

[@theserhoratio]

Well they cant call it innovative innovations

[@mattburke9624]

Random team : hey so we’ve got this new innovatio - FIA : NO

[@viptech_c5286]

I think you miss-spelled "Ferrari"

[@christythambithurai8814]

@@viptech_c5286 when did he mention Ferrari

[@viptech_c5286]

@@christythambithurai8814 Not at all saying he did or implying he did. Are you not familiar with the "I think you misspelled _" Joke format? If I have to explain it, Ferrari doesn't like when other teams make innovative and unique changes to their car that make their car really good and then they go crying to FIA to ban it. I can name multiple times where this was exactly the case, if you'd like.

[@abramo7700]

More like Random Team: Hey, so we’ve worked hard on this new inno- Ferrari: FIA!! I CANT WIN AND CANT BUILD THE SAME THING!! CAN YOU BAN IT? FIA: k

[@sebastianlim2499]

Adrian Newey is a genius in car design, not only fast but elegant too

[@ialexleb7245]

I'm not sure the main objective of Newey is to have elegant cars 😅

[@Errol.C-nz]

@@ialexleb7245 he staunchly followed the engineers number one rule...if it loks right, it probably is...if it looks fast...ditto...the winglets didnt look fast to him...or me...he was right though

[@aslamnurfikri7640]

@@Errol.C-nz you can see in one clip it broke in the pit lane

[@nickolastiguan]

But Adrian copied Jeremy Clarkson's homework at school

[@paint1010111]

2:54 ''The F duct'' is in fact...On the F of Vodafone.

[@markvorster3921]

i think that's why they called it that

[@Bartooc]

That's why it was called that...

[@thie9781]

Didn't knoe that thx :D

[@aussieaudir8lms871]

Ironic

[@joeyg2525]

The media and people in the paddock didn't know what to call it so they just said "have you seen the duct on the f of vodafone on the front of the McLaren?" "F-duct" was born.

[@ed05_acc]

"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar; you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." -Tyrion Lannister.

[@davishayes2006]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner for best quote ever

[@hughjass5156]

Say it with me. "After Ferrari complained, the FIA banned the innovation."

[@jeokagem8002]

Hugh Jass Hate Ferrari much?! Ferrari only complained about the 1 innovation (#6), bud(?). Other teams did their fair share of whining over other ideas too. Changing weight with water was flat-out cheating, while Alonso's driving ability was pure genius!? Mostly, it was just easier to whine about some innovations and have them banned than to have to spend resources catching up(?) - not enough races to test and implement, maybe? We can only speculate.

[@dedecus7111]

@@jeokagem8002 Sooo if someone innovates and creates something nice. For their time, effort, money and genius the FIA just ban it so other teams don't spend time, effort and money? Makes sense...

[@jeokagem8002]

@@dedecus7111 Dude, that's not what I said at all! (I don't know why I'm even responding to your comment because it's just plain dumb!?). I suggest that you should try to UNDERSTAND the comment/s better before you say something(?). I didn't mention ANYTHING about not innovating; of course, innovation is important - EXCEPT when it comes to flat-out cheating (like changing the weight of the car with water). My point was why is Hugh Jass singling out Ferrari when they are only guilty of complaining about 1 of the 10 items? He sounds like a Ferrari-hater. They are ALL guilty of complaining when they think another team has an unfair advantage, or if they think they can't catch up in time for that season. Finally, try to remember this in the future: "It is better to be quiet and be THOUGHT a fool than to speak out and dispell all doubt"

[@campkira]

Ferrari is one the oldest team so yeah they will alot...

[@campkira]

@@jeokagem8002 when Ferrari going start winning again?

[@cdname47]

"The risk of ground effect causing cars to take off was high..." *shows a low speed wheel to wheel contact caused flight that ground effect would have nothing to do with*

[@hammerbro1947]

Propaganda video at their best

[@farisfaikar_r]

Bro, I was just watching that clip when I read your comment XD

[@sikness1924]

But ground effect do cause cars to take off, ask Mark Webber about it he is an expert of making cars fly

[@dougball328]

@@sikness1924 No, lack of ground effect makes cars take off.

[@THESLlCK]

Brum Racing THE PURPOSE OF GROUND EFFECT SKIRTS IS TO KEEP THE VEHICLE-SAY IT WITH ME- ON THE GROUND.

[@gabor6259]

F1 teams: *make good innovations* FIA: We don't do that here.

[@Chuckiele]

Unless you pay of course ;)

[@wilton999]

I like 🤣 that Black Panther brought your here. I wish 1k+ likes upon you brother. May you be truly blessed

[@dem1seCS]

@@wilton999 It's a meme that was created because of Black Panther.

[@chichianya]

Engineers: Let's invent somethi- FIA: Banned.

[@Kazhrei]

"Man, that's a great idea..." "WAAAAAAAAAH!" "Ok, fine, it's banned"

[@VonBlade]

"Whilst not technically illegal it was banned" applies to almost all of this. But clearly illegal cars, they're fine. Hi 94 Benetton.

[@Jimmy-lm2eg]

So Schumacher Bad?

[@FormulaTurismo]

@@Jimmy-lm2eg The legality of the car is the responsiblity of the TEAM. NOT the DRIVER.

[@Jimmy-lm2eg]

@@FormulaTurismo Ok then Schumacher In Ferrari good lol.

[@Kubickz]

@@Jimmy-lm2eg You have to remember that the only car with TC and Launch Control was the Schumacher's one.

[@ejune98]

Back then FIA was super stupid to change rules even before the car had chance to race. I think thats what ruined Classic Team Lotus

[@GECKOZFTW]

With the Lotus 88 they had the right to ban it, since the outside chassis did move to adjust its height. As for why the original Team Lotus died, they just stopped being a competitive team. They lost the Honda engines for 1989, and from there, the team just became less and less competitive, despite having a young Mika Hakkinen in their line up for 1991 and 92. Hell in their last season in 94 they scored no points despite getting engines from Mugen-Honda.

[@crackerjackrappr]

FIA: "You must be a constructor." *Constructors construct things* FIA: "ILLEGAL!"

[@BrunoSuicida]

Moral of the story, if you make something better than Ferrari, it will be banned

[@Φοίβος-ΘωμάςΔημητρίου]

That's why Ferrari is nowhere near since 2012?

[@Spudchucker92]

That's the Ferrari International Aid for you. Ferrari. 'We can't get this to work, so we want it banned.' FIA: 'Got ya fam.'

[@Φοίβος-ΘωμάςΔημητρίου]

Dude, Ferrari wasn't the only team that complained about those innovations. I think is better not to make any conspiracy theories

[@samharper5881]

​@@dantheman9228 laughable logic

[@dantheman9228]

Sam Harper and why is it laughable ,this is what happened if you cant handle that then too bad.

[@AnakinSkyobiliviator]

Formula 1: we promote innovation, but if it's too good, it's illegal.

[@krassilverfang5504]

The FiA is why Formula 1 is struggling to be interesting anymore

[@Akniy]

Except most of these innovations were dangerous and/or impractical. For example, the skirts contributed to the down force so much that if it were to break the cars will suddenly lose a lot of grip & downfoce with the high probability of causing a crash. Another example is the weighted front wing. Weight is so important that eventually the teams would have probably removed it even if it wasn't banned

[@skwisgaarskwigelf331]

@@Akniy What are you even saying? The front wing is the most important aero element in the car because it is what dictates the flow of the rest of the whole car aerodynamics. If by dampening the vibrations you get a more stable front wing, you can tune it more precisely to move airflow and vortices to wherever you want, hence improving the performance of the car as a whole. More so when you have less downforce because you're running on a kerb at mid speed while cornering.

[@alexlam24]

@@skwisgaarskwigelf331 majority of down force comes from the floor.

[@CobraRedstone]

"French Idiot Association" as I call it

[@ardijanuar2036]

"f1 is not interesting anymore" yet these people keep watching latest f1 video, kinda like the ex who keep stalking lol

[@tetragon2137]

Tyrrell's lead shot trick is kind of pushing it from "cheeky" to "cheating"...

[@kidslovef1155]

The NEEEOWW guy -USGP 2018

[@toma6068]

Also Monaco and Germany 2019

[@RobertDoornbosF1]

@@toma6068 germany?

[@toma6068]

@@RobertDoornbosF1 On the podium after the champagne celebrations

[@RobertDoornbosF1]

@@toma6068 do you have a video? I'd like to hear it

[@toma6068]

@@RobertDoornbosF1 It's literally only for a second, about 3m 33 secs in kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqWVoYN5hLSdebc

[@99hammy99]

So basically, F1 is constantly ruined by crybaby teams who can’t figure things out for themselves.

[@NorthStarBlue1]

This could be said of any motorsport series, really. Any innovation that might upset the inverted pyramid of rich teams staying on top while spending as little as possible usually dies on the vine before it can be fully developed.

[@aussieaudir8lms871]

Or by fia not banning something due to the fact that they love the team

[@marchelmberger7790]

Ferrari

[@levichandler3719]

Hammond The Destroyer. Yes. Ferrari

[@abdullahmuizzudinselamat8406]

Yup, just like what happened to chapparal 2j

[@icey7225]

Team: *makes a super innovated F1 car* FIA: *So, you’ve chosen banishment?*

[@jry9956]

I want all these innovations (or as many as possible) to be on one car, just to see how much faster it could go round various tracks!

[@bennynagon9322]

Check can am racing, especially in the 70s

[@Kore_YT]

Remake with Mercedes soon?

[@matsimmo6208]

Kore watch the complaints come in and it be banned

[@Kore_YT]

Ferrari will complain and then action will be taken.

[@shaikolm]

It's already banned for 2021

[@paulxo325]

@@Kore_YT lol 4 months later, red bull complained but fia ruled it legal

[@ffturbo]

@@paulxo325 oh boy this comment didnt age well with RP

[@Yoshiki.Kishinuma]

Imagine having a F1 car with all these innovations combined. They should at least build 1 F1 car with those functions

[@linecraftman3907]

That shit would be able to park on walls

[@NicholasStrand]

WTF1 did a thought exercise very similar to what you propose, if I recall.

[@will3835]

@@NicholasStrand If I recall Gran Turismo/Red Bull did the same with their X2014 fan car. Theoretically it was possible to build but would be almost impossible to drive due to the g-forces it was capable of.

[@neykodimov2786]

@@NicholasStrand yes you are correct. They had an episode about it

[@bruh-uy3vn]

teams: *decide to make an interesting innovation to gain an upper hand* FIA: *_IM GONNA STOP YOU RIGHT THERE_*

[@anm10wolvorinenotapanther32]

A random team: (creates an innovation that greatly enhances the car's performance) FiA: "It is... acceptable" That random team: (wins once with the car) FiA: *Excuse me what the fu-"*

[@Benlucky13]

fia: "these side wings are affecting driver vision and will be banned" also fia "let's put a bar in the center of the drivers vision"

[@Benlucky13]

@GamerFrancis TV I agree the halo is safe (albeit ugly), I just don't think the side wings were unsafe. heck, they banned bmw sauber's twin towers for the same 'obstructed visibility' reason, even though drivers didn't mind them any more than they mind the halo. just feels hypocritical of them, like visibility is the excuse they pull out of their hat when they don't like a creative solution.

[@rinhato8453]

@@Benlucky13 And there was a clip of one of the wings being ripped off in the pit lane. Not exactly very safe.

[@LegoWormNoah101]

So there was reason to ban it

[@dev1ce758]

The end

[@joejohnson8789]

For now....

[@PizzarooThePizza]

So what was the excuse for banning the “tuned mass damper” it’s not even remotely dangerous It’s a great idea!

[@poisonpotato1]

Exactly if anything it probably made it more stable

[@junienet]

"im hanging like a cow"

[@SadMarinersFan]

@@KnockKnockNeo except the rulebook didnt say no. Remember the part of the video that said "WITH FIA PERMISSION they fitted the system to the rear of the car aswell".

[@robertofontiglia4148]

Imma take a wild guess that Ferrari complained and threatened to leave the sport ?

[@memadmax69]

So you take all ten of these innovations and combine them into one care and you get: God Mode.

[@Silverscreen07]

Basically, everytime a designer or engineer came up with a fantastic design, FIA banned it. Supposedly the pinnacle of motorsport denies innovation....because of politics

[@guppy719]

IDK why people would still think of F1 as the pinnacle of motorsports anymore it was back in the day. But now its just the racing league with the most money.

[@gratzy1989]

„Merzedes“ : we have this DAS , makes us real fast „FIA“ : Yes, good, win this year championship, next year we ban it 🤠

[@jnordne2]

"It's been a whole less than a year since you've won a championship, and we aspire to parity. We only want you winning the championship no less than 6 times in a row."

[@keashin2844]

FIA failed to stop Mercedes for 7 years

[@bluevayero7269]

I could understand if any other team than redbull or ferrari complained and they banned it. but it was those two, with equivalent budget, that complained first, and they knew what merc was doing beforehand, and did not bother to create a similar contraption.

[@keashin2844]

@@bluevayero7269 well with or without das Mercedes wouldve still won.Maybe max would have second place in the WDC but they would've still won the constructors

[@cresbalundo8845]

Ferrari in the 2000s: dominating FIA: Stop doing it please Mercedes: *dominating literally every race with no chance of other teams winning* FIA: ok

[@macnosmutano4849]

Such a weird sport where everything is just banned.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Mass dampers should be legal. Extra Triple brakes should be legal. Double Chassis ground effects should be legal. Triple and Double diffusers should be legal. Six wheels should be legal. The fan car should be legal. None of these innovations compromised the safety of drivers and spectators. “Pinnacle of Motorsport” my ass. The budget caps will balance everything out.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Porridge Boss, this is why equalized budget caps should exist for both big and small teams, and be very strict. No money left for 2019 due to poor budgeting? Save up and fight again in 2020, everyone has the same cards to work with

[@Amehdion]

FIA: "We encourage teams to innovate and invent new technology." Engineers: **makes innovative new technology** FIA: "But not like that."

[@klopgtur5931]

This video is basically how the FIA destroyed F1

[@cinegraphics]

They still have a chance to fix things if next season they stop being Mercedes slaves!

[@ashray0611]

@@cinegraphics and ferrari's slave too

[@cinegraphics]

@@ashray0611 You're living in the far past. That was 20 years ago. Since 2014 FIA is basically a Mercedes bitch.

[@Sedlo64]

@@cinegraphics Fia is not anyones bitch, why would they do that? Mercs are not guilty they started developing 2014 half decade before their rivals. and Fia can't just throw those engines now out, because they are already the cars very core. if they just ban 'em now it'll force teams to build the whole new cars, rebuild factories and etc. imagine the costs. in the time when F1 so desperately tries to lower it. plus ecology which is the reason they brought them in the first place. so considering that Mercs started developing those hybrid engines even before coming to f1, it is no wonder they nailed 2014. and people like you just hate mercedes for being the best. im not a Mercs fan too and i'm tired as well of the Mercedes dominance. but what they've got is deserved and i accept it. besides, F1 tried to stop 'em in 2017 already, which is by the way only 3 years after the darkness rising, compared to early 2000 when the rule changes to kill Ferrari came only 5 years later. so in 2017 they brought those aero in hope to bring the importance of engines down. but Mercs again showed their brains, and although Ferrari and Red Bull stepped very close, thanks to those rule changes, they still domehow saved the ability to fight for the championship. so to conclude Fia and F1 are trying to stop Mercedes but they can't just violate their own rules to stop them. with those 2022 rule changes though it will be their second attempt. doubt any team in history survived even Fia's first attack. so you have to understand that Fia never backs anyone, their main target is always to increase popularity of the F1 and thus make more money from it, and the dominance of a one team hardly helps it.

[@cinegraphics]

@@Sedlo64 are you on drugs? FIA has chosen the type of engine EXACTLY by the specs that Mercedes already had. They could have chosen something else, but FIA chooses Mercedes type of engine, against all other teams. Sure they can throw those engines out. Same as they introduced them, they could equally as easily outlaw them. And bring back V10 engines, with the sound that audience likes. Because racing should be about audience. And NOT rigging everything to make a big commercial for Mercedes. I don't wanna watch a Mercedes commercial, I wanna watch honest racing. I don't hate Mercedes, I hate injustice. They could as well take Tesla into competition and then one day just switch to electric motors. And guess what, Tesla and similar companies would beat the crap out of Mercedes and everyone else. Maybe the next world champ would be Alexander Albon driving for Rimac Concept X Racing. Would that be a honest twist in the story? Nope. That would be plain corruption and cheating. Just like it is now. Mercedes didn't show their "brains". Other teams came up with clever innovations too. But FIA banned them. While they allowed almost all innovations by Mercedes, even if the other teams were complaining. FIA just doesn't care about the audience, or other teams, they are Mercedes bitch. There was never such a dominant car in the recent history of F1, for such a long time. This is just perversion. I bet that each steward gets a new Mercedes every year, "for no reason at all". No wonder that Safety Car is also a Mercedes. They should rename F1 into "Mercedes racing series" so that people know what it's really about.

[@The4Tifier]

Imagine how far we could have come with racing and car technology had the FIA not banned anything...

[@tetragon2137]

It would, quite simply, not be as fun. Have a look at the Can-Am cup in its early years. Eventually they started having to ban the innovations that Jim Hall from Chaparral Cars was coming up with, since his cars were consistently winning by entire laps. Chief among them included Fan-Cars and Active Aerodynamics, both of which are banned in most forms of racing.

[@Frikgeek]

Nowhere near as far as we are now tbh. Half of these innovations were only made because other things which were easier were banned. You'd never have the F-duct if active aero was still legal. Things like X-wings wouldn't be put on cars if ground effect skirts were still legal. Renault's tuned mass damper wouldn't be necessary if you could just have active suspension. Mclaren's 2nd brake pedal is also unnecessary if you have electronic stability control that can brake each wheel individually without driver input. Most of the time an innovation gives you one year of dominance and then it's either banned or copied by everyone else. The point is to force teams to continuously invent new things, not coast off one successful innovation for years.

[@limdaoyuan7218]

@@jitendragarg what about the mass dampers? The double diffuser? The mass damper reduces the vibration of the car and makes it easier and safer to drive. The double diffuser increases the downforce. I don't see anything bad about it

[@bhaskarkarki8276]

@@limdaoyuan7218 to much downforce can cause a huge problem

[@SeanKD_Photos]

"always part of F1s identity"? you mean banning good ideas? Shame on FIA

[@thatcanadian3240]

all i heard was tyrell: “hey look at this cool thing i made” FIA: “BANNED”

[@grendelum]

the tuned mass damper was amazing... let everyone have the same one, problem solved.

[@JoeBot21]

Giving everyone the same regulation approved mass damper would hurt innovation, since it would effectively lock in the vibration behavior of the car.

[@jacobgarz8970]

Engineers: So I had this innovation... FIA: Bring forth the holy ban hammer

[@AIM7_sparrow]

Yup

[@eldakka2163]

@@AIM7_sparrow torilla tavataan

[@chrzrd.]

It's so fun seeing different teams come up with wacky solutions. Wish it was still like that today!

[@orlandobonner1034]

FIA:"is that creativity I smell"

[@MultiAmir08]

If you want more views, just make a Top 10 of Kimi doing anything every week and we still gonna watch it.

[@kianolner3818]

7:06 that sound brings back so many memories. What a noise.

[@Lh47000]

"The Fan Car" Lewis Hamilton want to know your location Edit: wow thx for 1k likes !

[@Nico-9138]

Come on, it's not like if it was called the "We have the best fans here car" :p

[@toma6068]

@@Nico-9138 What about the Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 W10 e Power Get In There Lewis turbo hybrid

[@benij2431]

Mostly an F1 fan what about the Mercedes W09 Eq ‘Ferrari has a better car than us so let’s bitch to the FIA and let them help us win’ Power plus

[@JohnyG29]

moron.

[@squilldx5055]

The W11 isn’t gonna have an engine. It’s just gonna be the fans running on a hamster wheel to power the car

[@hadorstapa]

The f-duct may have been banned, but its effect of stalling airflow over the rear wing to reduce drag was the inspiration behind the DRS system added the following year.

[@yogaelangga43]

Ferrari 2018: let's attach the mirrors at halos for drivers comfort FIA: u won't do it next year

[@Mprince-hg6vu]

That Halos is the main reasons why Todays F1 SUCKS.

[@nasseralkhelaifi1853]

It wasn’t for comfort but for aerodynamical reasons

[@yogaelangga43]

@@nasseralkhelaifi1853 nah first reason why mirror attached on halo because driver comfort first then everybody complaining it because winglet and mirror instead installed at the halo so yeah, that also counted as taking aero advantage too from winglet at halo

[@wilton999]

@@Mprince-hg6vu why is halo bad? I thought it was safe? I like it

[@woiso3257]

@@Mprince-hg6vu well without the halo Alex peroni probably died in monza

[@sinjinkincaid]

25% of the comments: “these innovations are cool” 75% of comments: “so all FIA does is ban?!”

[@PeterTeal77]

Describes the sport itself quite well. 25% innovation 75% banning.

[@SergioMenaGTS]

9:30 that sound tho

[@jeffreytenthije]

9:17 Im a fan of this one

[@papsi10]

Son: can i play f1 2019 with my new driving wheel? Mom: ok FIA: wait a minute boy

[@THESLlCK]

Chiptuneer Cheeky bugga