F2004 with slicks vs SF21 - Assetto Corsa

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

Right lads I know my driving was terrible you lot don't have to spam my comments about it , and plus i was using pad

[@joeysasylum8633]

lame excuses

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

@Joeys Asylum bro wtf do you mean excuses mate

[@Timre23.1]

@@Lordgoatifi42342 because your throttle application was horrible i think..

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

@@Timre23.1 well yeah I know that, but this was made at a time when I was not really at the game

[@Timre23.1]

@@Lordgoatifi42342 dont take ppl too seriously.

[@yanava]

The most shocking thing to me is the size difference. It's almost comical, the SF21 looks like gigakubica

[@MatiX415]

lol so true

[@guilhermemoreira5651]

That's sadly true

[@tomaspetro4966]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kazimierzrobaczynski9964]

yes but the cars nowadays really look like top of the top of engineering and actually make up for the name "pinnacle of motorsport". the old small cars look like toy cars to me

[@igorlthn1109]

COMICALLY LARGE FERRARI

[@didyouknow5648]

The 2021 car looks like a damn truck compared to the f2004

[@jakubknotek4891]

Yeah, it's an absolute unit.

[@starlord7636]

Well ive watched a real video comparing laptimes of the f2004 to newer f1 cars and the modern cars wrecked the Ferrari by over four- six seconds

[@didyouknow5648]

@@starlord7636 which ferrari xd

[@satcs4991]

​@@starlord7636 Is quite normal. Today's aerodynamics are much more sophisticated than they were then. The question would be.. what if the rules had not been changed after 2004. How strong the cars would have been 1-2 years later, until they would have been slowed down for a really good reason. In addition, wider wings and tires lead to more downforce and grip. I still like the nimble cars of that time much more. Today, as already mentioned, these are trucks and f1 are even more commercial than ever.

[@markohint444]

@@starlord7636 Because of the slix.

[@CT--og4iv]

Imagine an F2004 with DRS, ERS and slicks, probably a reworked suspension and modern software, holy cow

[@longboyyo8439]

So imagine a modern F1 car with a V10

[@CT--og4iv]

@@longboyyo8439 Not really, modern F1 cars are limousines, compare the SF21 with the F2004 in size and you’ll se what I’m talking about 😂

[@ArtemG71]

@@CT--og4iv so this hybrid system, bigger tank for possibility to race without refueling are reasons why modern cars so big

[@CT--og4iv]

@@ArtemG71 yeah, but not only because of that, bigger cars mean safer cars, that’s the main reason.

[@andymb601]

@@CT--og4iv well the main reasons were primarily aerodynamic and to make them look faster but yeah they're much safer

[@CarlosGamesCG5173]

Ferrari F2004 with slick = fighter jet

[@Azmeyofficial]

Speed of light

[@CarlosGamesCG5173]

@@Azmeyofficial or TIE Fighter

[@Azmeyofficial]

@@CarlosGamesCG5173 speed of light is faster than anything

[@pastormaldonaldoempiredemo8995]

@@Azmeyofficial Universe expand faster than light.

[@jann1k_MSC47]

And with drs 😎

[@AndrewRockitViacheslavov]

F2004 is most beautiful F1 car ever, I think. And most competitive

[@mikblues_146]

For me, it's the R25

[@BrenoCondack]

most competitive is the MP4/4 from 1988

[@Triptonboy]

F2002 for me

[@Ricky911_]

For me, it's the 2013 RB9 (Red Bull)

[@AlexanderDiviFilius]

The MP4/4 takes the cake for me, although the F2004 is up there too.

[@RenoF1]

if you'd enter an f2004 on slicks (with reworked suspension and dampers to get the most out of the tyres) in modern F1, it would probably still be very competative.

[@seabasso6849]

during the race they are faster than modern f 1 cars sometimes but they would suck in quali

[@malcomsaf8677]

Don't forget DRS

[@xzn1989]

It would be a very strange race, in high speed sections they would crush 2021 cars, but they would be humiliated in medium speed corners while gaining another advantage in tracks like Monaco and Hungary,

[@fadelabdurrahman3469]

Put renault's mass damper on it, add DRS, ERS, and double diffusers

[@gavcom4060]

uh I seriously doubt that considering that downforce levels are nowhere near competitive

[@israeljoao5532]

I know the v10 is faster in a straight line than this V6T with the heavier cars, but the difference is not as big as it seems there. It was supposed to be more equivalent, the V6 cars reach 340 km/h without vacuum, they should have put more power in this SF21 mod because it was in the Ferrari f2004 vacuum and couldn't keep up

[@paincreator2000]

Vacuum :D

[@andrealettich]

Monaco schumacher pole 2004 was fast but leclerc 2021 was almost 6 second faster

[@YellowEvoV110]

@@andrealettich well the same with 2016 ferrari. Its the downforce

[@motorshort4141]

@@andrealettichthe fact that the current cars are good in qualifying doesn’t tell us much over which is the better racer Considering your example the 2004 Monaco pole was made by Trulli in 1'13"985, surely more than leclerc but not 6 seconds more like 3 and a half Then you have to consider the real pace: Verstappen second lap was 1:17.5 while 2004 normal lap times where in the 1:14/1:15s Finally you can also consider the loss of time caused by the grooved tyres

[@andrealettich]

@@motorshort4141 👍🏻

[@alexvenous1875]

In my opinion Monza is not the correct track for the comparison since it is all about top speed and ofc 2004 has less aero. I'd recommend redoing this around a track like Barcelona, Hungary or Spa etc...

[@antonioortizpoveda8726]

@mountaindew420 The engine is not the reason why that car is faster in a straight line., the engines of 2021 are the fastest ones in history. It's called drag.

[@andymb601]

@mountaindew420 less efficient, more things to go wrong, use more fuel, but they sound glorious

[@bencri6248]

@beep I mean, obviously the V6 are faster, but i'm pretty sure that a V10 with ERS would be pretty near and sound 20 times better

[@thesciencesphere4273]

@@bencri6248 if you're using a V10 to achieve results similar to the ones the V6s already do just because of sound, imo it's not worth it, 4 extra cylinders and the output is still the same, it would make sense if it was an upgrade in more ways than just sound, but making the engines more expensive and complex than they already are isn't really a good idea

[@R9naldo]

@beep theres no denying that lighter and smaller cars are what we absolutely need. And now with biofuel/synthetic fuel a V10 or V8 might be possible.

[@sulphurous2656]

The V10 cars have a higher top speed, and are more nimble in low speed corners. The 2017-2021 cars are faster in the medium speed corners due to how much downforce they have but have more drag and weight than their predecessors.

[@kamata93]

Yes and no. Top speed is remarkable low on the older V10 cars. Did you see Bottas do 370+ in his Williams just a few years ago?

[@sulphurous2656]

​@@kamata93 The V10 cars didn't have a low top speed. In the 2004 Italian Grand Prix, Antônio Pizzonia of the BMW Williams F1 team recorded a top speed of 369.9 km/h (229.8 mph). And Bottas along with others did

[@lisaruhm6681]

@@sulphurous2656 imagine the V10 cars having DRS...

[@streetfighter4006]

2021 and the developers of the OFFICIAL formula 1 game still can't figure out how to make the ingame engines sound decent doing anything other then flooring it

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

True

[@Safelanding2]

damn the lighter car and the bigger engine won at Monza, who woulda thunk it

[@mikblues_146]

Considering the bigger car has more power, DRS and more downforce, you would've thought the smaller car would lose

[@Safelanding2]

@@mikblues_146 but Monza is a speed track and the heavier the car the slower it will go in a straight

[@rak7791]

@@mikblues_146 i mean in 2004 they had little regulations compared to today

[@mikblues_146]

@@Safelanding2 What's actually keeping the heavier car from going faster than the lighter one is drag, considering it has almost 400hp more than the lighter one

[@mikblues_146]

@@rak7791 True xD

[@DaniMacYo]

Love the F2004. With slicks this thing becomes and even bigger beast. Would have loved if they could have run slicks in the 2004 season.

[@maximilianschroder5206]

whoever drove the f2004: pls learn to drive

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

Lmao i was still trying to get used to the game

[@meyrickjesudasan255]

i think you don't realize that the 2004 cars had lot less downforce than the current cars....

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

@@meyrickjesudasan255 yeah I very know cause I ran zero downforce on both cars

[@meyrickjesudasan255]

@@Lordgoatifi42342 no.. I was talking to the jackass who commented without knowing 🤣🤣.. you did a great job though...

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

@@meyrickjesudasan255 thanks lol, I tried my best

[@pietrosal9629]

Absolutely Beautiful 🔥

[@padrepiomotociclista8315]

It looks like a fish escaping from a shark So much effort in every corner

[@caroltegar]

V10 is very fast But the modern cars has very good downforce and cornering speed and another Innovation from other teams

[@SrMorais]

Nowadays engines are actually more powerful but the less drag and lighter weight makes the F2004 way faster on straights

[@gastonhitw720]

Downforce is trash

[@kerimca98]

And ERS battery doesn't last the whole lap, so it's mostly used in acceleration, pointless in top speed

[@JoseNovaUltra]

@@gastonhitw720 ok..

[@bigcheezesupreme2377]

Best looking f1 car ever

[@NeoGeo822]

The modern F1 will always be faster because of technology improving aerodynamics and such. However the old cars can just brute for race with there engines alone. The Ferrari f138 is a perfect balance of new and old technology.

[@evanfinch4987]

the sound actually makes me laugh thats how bonkers those v10s were

[@seanverdi9236]

Not only did the cars sound better but they were also faster ? And lighter , and looked more visually appealing. F1 nowadays needs to take note

[@siddharthsharma8940]

The 2022 cars are a step towards the right direction in terms of looks. Still can't match the 2004 cars, though.

[@Stevo_1998]

What was the famous quote again...? _"Adding power makes you faster on the straights; subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere"_ ? By none other than _Colin Chapman_ The only thing holding the early-2000's cars back is the grooved tyres Without the grooves (and just pure slicks), they'd _still_ be the fastest F1 cars ever made The V6 engine's, with all the extra garbage surrounding them, and the insanely wide cars we have now, are just so incredibly heavy that they can barely go anywhere - even with the 2.5 tons of downforce they produce

[@antonioortizpoveda8726]

That's totally not true. First of all the current cars develop much more than 2.5 tons of aero, which makes them easily 50kmh faster in some corners than the early 2000 cars, even with the weight dissadvantge. Second of all, the engines produce much more power, and thanks to the hybrid system and turbo, torque in low RPM. The ONLY advantge of the 2000s cars is their weight (which of course is a lot), but nothing else. They would only win in a drag race thanks to their reduced drag and weight.

[@GSSimRacing]

Great video, love the sounds. The pole times in 2021 real life were about 1.5 seconds faster compared to 2004. So with slicks on the car, it is very likely that the 2004 car could be faster. Damn 😮

[@andreal.7519]

In F1 2021, in Monza, F2004 top speed 217 MPH, SF21 top speed 212 MPH

[@KingKimi]

Great video!

[@thatonenigeriansformula]

The modern f1 cars are so big

[@thegameisforeveryone3539]

Good vid, bro. Please do a drag race with these cars in Monza straight: F2004 (default config) vs SF21 vs Ferrari 2022 car vs Bugatti Chiron vs Hoonicorn vs 1999 CART. It will be very interesting vid

[@Sikhislove]

Omg the sound is sweet

[@tommcglone2867]

This really shows just how amazing the F2004 really was. With slick tyres its still quicker than any modern F1 car. And thats the the F2004 is worshipped like a deity.

[@castro4686]

Man the v10 on the F2004 gave me instant goosebumps

[@alistairdiren5790]

I like how the F2004 went wide on the last turn with the SF21 overtaking it for a few seconds only for the F2004 to completely outright outrun it on the straights and won.

[@VictorMontel]

My God, the SF21 chasing the F2004 is the big m8 meme.

[@davidca96]

the car that was so beastly Ferrari didnt believe the lap times at first.

[@albertusaswin2012]

The legendary Ferrari won the duel!

[@oswaldomorales8924]

lol the v10 just cant keep up on corners

[@pablolikesturtles]

Gigachad F2004 misses every apex and still wins

[@commandergeokam2868]

Nice job dude

[@BillStreetStudios]

This video only made me realize how unnecessarily big F1 cars are nowadays

[@io-jv6gv]

The SF21 looks like a dad looking after his son

[@itmethang]

Michael goes VROOOMMM

[@mr.carguy654]

It makes the 2021 car look like Mazespin's Haas!😂

[@dukeseb]

The graphics are so good in this. When they were on the start line I wasn’t sure if it was real or a game

[@nickypoundtown9568]

The over driving of that 2004 was beautiful

[@bartoloflace2516]

F2004 .......🥰🥰🥰🥰 Das war noch ein echtes Formel 1 Auto ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@alsa4real]

The thing is, isn't the newer cars faster in a straight line? Cuz of instant low end torque & higher peak power as well.

[@facusanx]

hey how do you put slicks on the f2004?

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

Its a mod cant remember where i got it tho

[@facusanx]

@@Lordgoatifi42342 I need it mate, I bought f1 2020 last night and a want to test it

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

@@facusanx oh this is not f1 2020 it’s Assetto corsa

[@texwiller8324]

A real F1 vs an imitation of a real F1 car

[@15DEAN1995]

Oh my god the size difference is insane. The 2021 car looks like gigantic.

[@arkaden9923]

Thanks you, what is the camera mod do you have ?

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

www.racedepartment.com/downloads/f12020-monza-camtool-replay.29211/ you also need to install camtool 2 www.racedepartment.com/downloads/camtool-2.15062/

[@arkaden9923]

@@Lordgoatifi42342 great, thank you

[@michaelwedema2112]

Is this a Ferrari extension for the original Assetto Corsa or the Competizione version? (Or does it work on both versions?)

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

original Assetto Corsa

[@michaelwedema2112]

@@Lordgoatifi42342 thanks!

[@gomezmario9086]

How can u have such changes? Or is it a mod for the original f2004?

[@gepe_batman]

That's probably the only f1 track the F2004 vould be competitive. Not mentioning you went wide as hell in parabolica

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

Had to take the nascar line 💀

[@Lynchy_RL]

I mean it’s monza, the f2004 should have finished even further ahead especially if it could hit an apex. Cool vid tho

[@catiolabr]

How do you get those replay angles and moves?

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

Camtool 2 on racedepartment

[@kelemenmarcell6030]

The sound of that V10, dang I miss it.

[@afcmaishiranuichun-li.1815]

the 2004 Ferrari fought until the last corner and won in the last meters. worthy of a race. give him a 2004 Ferrari.😊🥰

[@AndrewRockitViacheslavov]

The pilot of F2004 drove his lap very "funny"😉😄 Just like rookie😄

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

Lmao i ran 0 downforce so i had to go wide

[@JoseNovaUltra]

@@Lordgoatifi42342 or just slow down more, but obviously the SF21 would pass, and you lose the point of the video..

[@jamesstewart1794]

That Schumacher chop tho

[@IonutTudorica]

The most disturbing thing, aside of the size difference, is it took me more than half of a lap to figure this is not a real show.

[@raynaldi_edo]

F2004 look on the SF21 and said "DAMN BOY, HE THICC!!"

[@AndrewRockitViacheslavov]

I LOVE these cars!!!👍👍👍

[@abu-omaral-bakr392]

I guess they will be never a better car than 2004

[@spectrelfc1152]

Look how giant the SF21. Make F1 cars smaller

[@febrianrashad]

sf21 is somewhat a fair opponent for the tractors that lamborghini made back in the day, nice manufacturer competition

[@taillandierjp1468]

wonderfull

[@sennasenna6023]

how did u get slicks on it?

[@franciscodias1060]

The F2004 is passing away to the SF21 and he says goodbye. What a shame Ferrari 😅😂🤣🤌👍👏

[@brentruvio6556]

That SOUND. 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤😍😍😍😍

[@ste.lombardo]

I dream about a formula car with f2004 engine and sf90 technology

[@LinkSoul64]

FIA must reduce the size of the cars. This will allow the cars to have more space to battle around the track. Also FIA should change the Tyre philosophy. Have you all realized that the reason we don't get good battles around the track is the tyres? They are so easily degrading that if a driver decides to manuvaure a few times off the racing line during a pass or goes off track limits once or twice, the tyres lose half their life. The drivers are forced to stay in the racing line and pass the driver ahead only at certain parts of the track. If they ever brake hard the tyres are gone. This is essentially killing all the fun. For example Leclerc fought with Perez for 2 laps and his race got destroyed because the tyres were gone. It's insanity. I know the softer tyres today produce more grip and they give the driver more stability but for God's sake this is ridiculous. They should make the tyres harder so thet they withstand the battles.

[@justinjacob9743]

One word, safety.

[@itsgerardchin]

Holy shit... The SF21 at the back looks bigger than the car at the front.... No wonder "raceability" dropped so much

[@Zonda1996]

Even with the LMP line it took out of the final corner it still walked the hybrid. Gotta say I thought the Turbo v6 would be faster with active aero and an electric motor.

[@galaxypizza5266]

Why you open DRS on start in SF21 ??

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

That’s the AI that did it

[@azreenklose7976]

I never thought the sizes difference between the two will be enormous!!!........

[@weallfollowmanutd]

You went wide pretty much everywhere in the f2004

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

this was back when i didn't have my wheel and was not the best so yeah. sorry for the bad driving lol

[@JeffGordonRamsay]

The 2004 driver is all over the place

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

Yep

[@mohammed_the_train_spotter]

Well try it high downforce track and you’ll see who’s the tractor or truck.

[@mikblues_146]

Was that the RSS Formula 2021 or the F1Mania 2021?

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

It’s the sim dream 2021 cars

[@febrianrashad]

when ferrari said they can make better tractors than lamborghini

[@Oblivion9873]

SF21 is so much faster through the lesmos and ascari but the straightline of the f2004 and the lightness for first 2 chicanes really help it here

[@mathertom]

Was a blind dog driving the F2004? I suspect on slicks a full-revving, competitively driven 2004/05 V10 car would wipe the floor with the 2021 cars.

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

No it was a cow driving

[@JoseNovaUltra]

Depends on track, in most of tracks 2021 cars would win, cuz of the great downforce.

[@danielcaprioli8946]

Prob Monza isnt the best track for comparing the cars,to much time with full gas, if you see the 2 lesmo and the 2 previous corner the sf21 was right on the f2004 tail..prob a track like silverstone is way better,and 99% sf21 is going to be way way faster..but good vid 👌

[@ImDaniel845]

lost the f75 because the engine is different, before it was a v10 and now it is a v6

[@Knuckles_approves]

That Ferrari was bigger than Alonsos car in Hungary

[@15DEAN1995]

If ferrari did this in real life, to show the progression of how fast modern cars are compared to the old v10s cars. I think they would be caught by just how rapid the v10s were.

[@evanfinch4987]

no they wrote the times down so they know

[@SilverEagle1st]

SF21> more downforce F2004> better top speed...anyway I think the F2004 performance would be close even to 2020 cars(and I think that right now it could be even faster than 2022 cars) because they weight 200kg more...(In the same tracks the F2004 was 2 seconds in average slower than W11 Hamilton superfast Mercedes in Qualyfing sessions, but in 2004 cars used grooved tyres and had to carry the fuel for the first stint in the race)

[@h_v_2835]

Simplify then add lightness- Colin Chapman You can see the difference a light car makes

[@vascosoares3024]

How can I mod slick tires into the F2004?

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ac-ferrari-f2004-slicks-tire-physics-mod.31164/

[@patrickpatschka87]

How accurate are those comparisons?

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

Tbh not very real lol

[@jakubkrcma]

The F2004 with slicks can do 1:17.xxx (or better).

[@sirzzzz]

How did you got these slicks on the F2004?

[@Lordgoatifi42342]

Private mod sorry

[@sirzzzz]

@@Lordgoatifi42342 Ohh, no problem, mate

[@andymb601]

@@Lordgoatifi42342 tyre swapping is literally a tool in content manager

[@andymb601]

@@sirzzzz you can swap tyres with content manager

[@sirzzzz]

@@andymb601 I'm really not used to cm, could you help me to do this?

[@alduin2418]

Try a more technical track. Monza is too easy, it's all top speed.

[@erkayro]

"Lewis is the best of all times" Lewis car:

[@KekusMagnus]

nimble Ferrari vs C H O N K E R Ferrari

[@adamrakhadifa6933]

0:38 that size difference

[@linkery]

Imagine the lap times with 2000's monza kerbs

[@fifa22isshite90]

I feel sorry for anyone who actually thinks an F2004 with slicks would have this much grip. Its virtually impossible. Sick of games that overhype that car because it sounded amazing

[@jannelaurinkoski9143]

Who did win??

[@gbsoffiati]

it's also more fun to watch than the SF21

[@madoba8717]

Do this on a track silverstone and you’ll see another story despite the abundance of straights