F250 Super Duty Tow Rig or Rock Crawler?? Let’s Find Out! - Moss Wash Trail to Gold King Mansion AZ

[@Robert-ex2qp]

Love the Truck on trails over the side by side, the full size truck is more of a challenge. You did minimal upgrades with 37" tires on a budget, never see reviews of Ford Tremor doing trails like this. You really put it through the test.

[@TruckCamper]

Good point! There are not many full size trucks doing these trails. And it is certainly a challenge compared to the side by side. Crazy that our entire truck cost with modifications is less than most stock Ford Tremors. Thanks for the feedback. :)

[@wayuncharted236]

This video definitely has some pucker factor! Great job 👏 Thanks for showing us what the 250 can do!

[@TruckCamper]

Haha - so true! Our suspension is setup for hauling the truck camper which makes it less flexible empty. But still fun to play on trails. Thanks for watching! :)

[@brokenwrench404]

Nicely done! It’s good to see a full size hitting the trails. I was waiting for your drop hitch to get caught up. Also, never stand behind a truck in lose terrain. One small rock getting launched by a tire can ruin your day or take your life.

[@TruckCamper]

Thanks!! Totally forgot the hitch... and it didn't hang us up too bad. We were towing our dump trailer the day before. Multi-use rig! Good reminder staying out of the danger paths. Thanks for your feedback!

[@mikea4074]

It's hard to believe a truck that siE would do that........impressive set up

[@TruckCamper]

It is! And with limited additional bolt on parts from stock. Really surprising! Thanks for watching :)

[@JustinKingOffroad]

you have a great truck build there. when i decide to change up my offroad rig, i'm gonna have to consider a super duty build!

[@TruckCamper]

Definitely a great rig choice!

[@davewood406]

The places I've worked over the last 28 years in wireless have nearly all ran super dutys. a few chevys in the mix which I have a few months, maybe 10k miles. but I'll touch on that later. I've put a lot of off road miles on super duties. They're long and as a work truck can be pretty heavy(all diesels) with a service bed full of tools and hardware can push you over 10k lbs. easy. While not rock crawling, roads up to mountain top microwave sites span the range of maintained, smooth dirt, sand pit to rocky moonscape. They get there. They're stiff so you might be a little taxed. The hill descent on the newer ones makes coming back down little trouble. Stock suspension and at best some BFG KO2s once the factory rubber is done. The only limiting factor is their size, which in a work truck, you like more space, switchbacks will add another point to your X point turn and their length might also be fatal to the running boards/step. If I could change anything would be their approach and departure angles, without a lift and stock bumper it kinda sucks. Stacking rocks up a hill has happened and hitch receiver drag on the way down. Other than snow requiring a snowcat, never failed me. My short time in a Chevy 2500 HD was OK, street ride s nicer, softer but less sure off road and you get rocked side to side a bit more. Seemed to follow ruts more forcefully. The HD hood is a bit much too. I didn't hate it but I'd rather be in a Super Duty.

[@TruckCamper]

Great to hear your experience! I do think the Super Duty has the best physical components of the HD trucks. They are well built. Proven. :)

[@anorakadventures]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, spotter gets a 10/10. Love watching the SD on trails!

[@TruckCamper]

Agreed! Faith rocks... Glad you enjoyed it. Will share more trail adventures soon. Thanks for sharing. :)

[@pytheus]

Thanks for a great vid!! Did you add any skid plates? It looked like there were some sliders, but wasn't sure. In a perfect world, I would have changed suspension, lockers, skid plates, sliders, and bumpers with winches on both front and back on my F350. But, that's a ways away for me. Are yo going to build yours out more? Happy trails!

[@TruckCamper]

Thanks! We have stock ford gas + tcase skid. These are mostly noise makers to notify of impact no way can support the entire truck weight. Bumpers and rock sliders take most of the impacts. We have front/rear locking differentials and more.... Our truck works awesome! Been enjoying it for nearly 4 years now. Full build description: forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/2020-ford-f250-on-37s-expedition-truck-camper-build.216282/

[@pytheus]

@@TruckCamper Thanks for sharing! Awesome build!! Safe wheelin'!

[@sexyhedon]

Love your channel and your videos. They are really helpful for a life long Toyota off-roader moving into Superduty country. Could you please explain and link up the PCS steering assist that you mentioned. When I go to their website, all I see is equipment for older fords. Thank you very much, keep up the great work….

[@TruckCamper]

Thanks!! Give a call to the PSC customer service... they can get the parts squared away. You'll need to ship your steering gear box to them for porting. They can send it back with the hoses and ram. They have a ram mount for the older SuperDuty but it didn't work for us with the OX locker differential cover. My buddy fabricated a mount for the steering ram. I found the Fox ATS steering stabilizer to be helpful for improving steering feel. PSC gives lots of steering boost but steering feel is a bit light or floaty by itself. We might do a video on it at some point. Hope that helps!

[@philwright1233]

@@TruckCamper thank you..thank you..keep up the great work..love your videos..

[@johnvehling6304]

Thank You for proving what I have been saying for a long time. I have one of those trucks (SC 148" gas) and love them! Great 'bang for the buck', even in '23 if shopping for a base model. Keep it up, you have a new follower!!

[@TruckCamper]

Absolutely is the best value and capability! Factory rear locking differential is fantastic. We have 4.30 factory gears which is a perfect match for 37s. OX front air locker gives the extra traction when needed. Lots of fun!

[@manchesterroofingsystems8016]

@@TruckCamper What did you like about the OX air locker vs. ARB? Thanks!

[@TruckCamper]

@@manchesterroofingsystems8016 Talk about it a bit in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5rViaKbrJuCipI

[@TruckCamper]

@@manchesterroofingsystems8016 OX can be manually operated if air fails. No internal air leak issues like ARB. Better simple design. Plus comes with a HD diff cover. Been working perfectly for 3.5yrs....

[@manchesterroofingsystems8016]

@@TruckCamper Good to know thanks!

[@tiffanyscully1337]

Way to represent team super duty! I often get told to invest in a “real” 4x4 but I also need a tow vehicle. What bumpers you running on that beast?

[@TruckCamper]

Thanks!! They are Warn bumpers. Here's the build overview: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5rViaKbrJuCipI

[@jedarama]

that was impressive wheeling in a full size. of course truck campers vary widely in size and center of gravity, but I wonder how much of what you completed would have been possible with something like a Four Wheel Camper Hawk on a flatbed in the rear?

[@TruckCamper]

Thanks! We could have taken our hardside camper. But all the brush and trees add lots of character pinstripes. FWC flatbeds have much higher COG than their slide in models. It would be possible with either but slide in would be best. However their side panels are crazy thin and more likely to get dents or indentations.

[@FEGTTTSDH]

This is how SHOULD look a proper F250 and drive and not a princess paviment

[@TruckCamper]

Agreed. They can be setup to be plenty capable!

[@TATTOO850]

Great job guys!! I finally got my new truck 2022 F350. So it begins.... What running boards do you have?

[@TruckCamper]

Awesome!! Congrats. Adventures to come... those are steel rock sliders (welded to the frame) with top plates welded on to function as steps. We have videos showing the build details. :)

[@johnnykoba_on_the_road]

I’m partial because I have a super duty so Obviously would rather see yours on the trail than a side-by-side. Just curious what is your game plan since you usually explore trails alone if you are off camber and tip over to far?

[@TruckCamper]

Super Duty gives more driving challenge for sure! But it is fun to get it through trails with it. We've been driving trails solo for many years. There is risk. We try to push the limits but not go too far... it's a fine line. Winch is helpful for recovery. Otherwise it might be a long walk! Generally we bring our bikes which would make getting out faster.

[@johnnykoba_on_the_road]

That was another great video showing full size trucks can be used on some pretty Gnarly trails! What was. Your air pressure on your 37s?? Thanks for posting

[@TruckCamper]

Absolutely! We were at 25psi front and 20psi rear. Air down until you get some sidewall deflection and fine tune from there. With our camper off road we will do 25 front / 35 rear and keep speed under 45mph. Method wheels have bead grip which helps hold the tire on. Airing down too far results in decreased ground clearance with marginal traction gain.

[@johnnykoba_on_the_road]

@@TruckCamper AWESOME!! I think those will be my next wheels! I like the bead grip without actually running bead locks

[@TruckCamper]

@@johnnykoba_on_the_road Agreed. Road legal. Less weight.

[@kaytme5915]

I broken 2 rear stock springs packs already on my 2019 f-250 4x4 crew cab from off roading & trashed bumpers both front & back

[@TruckCamper]

Stock springs are not designed for off road use. We have custom progressive leaf packs, coil springs and Fox 2.5" Resi shocks tuned for the weight. Steel bumpers and rock sliders are essential. Pay upfront or later... 4x4 = $x$ :)

[@kaytme5915]

Truck camper 😆 yes after 2 Brocken spring packs I KNOW They are made wrong, haha! Any engineers know that! Never clamp metal at both sides at the same place the no Ford spring pack (made in USA) are *OFFSET*) & ANY FABUCATER KNOW TO OFFSET! 😝 Obviously Ford either don't care or don't have FAB EXPERIENCE 💩🤣

[@bethanytemple5320]

Hello hello wanted to find out what brand of rock sliders are you using?

[@TruckCamper]

Custom fabricated. We have build walk through video showing more details. Check our earlier videos... :)

[@kjackson3991]

That's impressive!!!

[@TruckCamper]

Right?? Not bad. :)

[@broncomick03]

who and where di you get your rock sliders

[@TruckCamper]

Buddy fabricator built them. He's in Oregon. They are great for camper tie downs, steps and rock protection. Surprised there are few if any steel rock sliders for HD trucks on the market.

[@f250camper5]

Love it.

[@TruckCamper]

Thanks!! More off road adventures coming...

[@trdshortbus8009]

You should be locked before you attempt certain obstacles….

[@TruckCamper]

Correct. Sometimes it's a good idea if risky and need the traction. Otherwise it's fun to approach test and engage differentials as required.

[@trdshortbus8009]

@@TruckCamper again you should have already checked an obstacle before even trying it to decide if you should need any locker or not. Just rolling up and attempting can have consequences.

[@Captainforgetful]

You do not have a front locker. You have lockout hubs... ver Y different

[@TruckCamper]

Check out our build video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5rViaKbrJuCipIsi=4Nbw6Xy0W2cNi0tY OX front locker air actuated. We also have two ARB air compressors. All run through factory AUX switches