AEW Dynamite's shocking record low rating | Wrestling Observer Radio

Dave Meltzer and Garrett Gonzales discuss AEW's shockingly low rating on Wednesday, easily making it the lowest-rated episode in the show's history.
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[@davidnaumann2931]

"There's always reasons" = excuses "Studying" = coping

[@mrrobert9176]

Dave blaming low numbers on a show on Discovery and a Kendrick Lamar concert!? Stop.

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

All these people are like THE KENDRICK SHOW. Kendrick wasn't even on stage til after the show was over

[@EliC09]

Might as well change AEW to *Always Excuses Weekly*

[@lagofala]

I didn't know Kendrick Lamar had such a crossover audience with AEW.

[@KingIna247]

Also Black Panther 😂

[@maraviyoso8473]

Dave Meltzer being Dave Meltzer.

[@michaelcobb7892]

I came for the excuses…..wasn’t disappointed

[@GreyGoose545]

But, but, but, but, Kendrick Lamar, Kendrick Lamar, Kendrick Lamar concert.

[@MadVybez]

😂😂😂

[@sirtoby4939]

The Discovery Channel put on a big show, Y'all... Too much competition, truly.

[@_meangreenjersey973]

Lol

[@davidjames6036]

Lol 50 year old fat white geeks who watch aew are watching kendrick lamar concert now lmfaoʻoooooo🤣🤣🤣🤣...wop wop wop wop😂😂

[@hezipullup2600]

What is Dave talking about? The BBT lead in is ALWAYS the highest rated quarter

[@MichaelParthum]

I thought that too, but I relistened and he means for the 18-49 demo

[@six6thdisciple]

ARE YALL WRESTLING JOURNALIST???

[@maraviyoso8473]

@@six6thdisciple no; but neither liars.

[@DominusHydra-yc1lc]

​​No. And neither is Dave Meltzer.

[@derekmoran9617]

​@six6thdisciple the folks commenting here have astronomically more experience in wrestling than Dave. The man is paid to blow Always Excuses Wrestling

[@arcus9590]

When RAW was doing bad ratings several years ago, I don't recall Dave twisting himself in knots trying to explain why, other than bad booking

[@kb4231]

Truth is Dave doesn't care about booking as long as he gets his 5 star matches.

[@MadVybez]

He has a clear bias

[@Aj6711]

Exactly

[@lostinmyhead07]

Because the show was really good, so its surprising because it wasn't remotely a bad show.

[@zemm9003]

​@@lostinmyhead07 Rush vs. MJF??? That's terrible. It's one of the reasons so many people didn't care.

[@jester2trife]

Dave's blatantly lying and just can't cope. It's beyond embarrassing at this point.

[@grabbity]

Thinking a bunch of 35-49 year old dudes are jumping ship for Kendrick Lamar is hilarious.

[@GreyGoose545]

D.A.M.N.

[@kurtisbased183]

lmfao!

[@playshot360]

Well done!!!! ​@@GreyGoose545

[@Gulag00]

Why not? Millennials like Kendrick. People tuned in to see if he would drop more heat on Drake.

[@edwardiputo1592]

Why is that absurd? Kendrick Lamar has been in the game almost 15 years.

[@keeshawnn6741]

Meltzer naming everything on TV as an excuse lol

[@mrrobert9176]

And a CONCERT.

[@gromester1092]

Always Excuses Weekly

[@depthsofhell]

A soccer game on fox was one of his reasons the hell is that

[@doubles7533]

Thats what he does lol. "C-Span saw a spike in viewership that night"

[@stefanosettignano6730]

He seems a politician that have to defend his party at any cost

[@andrebdd5818]

Dave just basically admitted in an open forum that the reason aew rating sucked was because Sheldon cooper wasn’t there to save them. No Dave. This is the actual audience

[@GreyGoose545]

Sheldon Cooper is the most over person in AEW.

[@ITSHIM1294]

Sheldon Cooper is AEW’s main draw

[@Saddler1944]

Real BBT fans all know who the real 4 Pillars of AEW are.

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

The real four pillars

[@WillS724]

I'm a Leonard guy

[@primocolon4936]

WWE wasn’t lying in 2019 when they said *”It’s a Marathon Not a Sprint”* Fast forward now NXT is surpassing AEW.

[@ENFORCJW]

A bunch of college kid recruits are outdrawing and honestly outperforming tony khan's real life action figures.

[@RowbuttBatmin]

@@ENFORCJW this action figure talk is cringe cornette-cuck stuff. Like HHH and HBK don't treat their workers like action figures lol.

[@RowbuttBatmin]

we knooooow, we hear this quote all the time bud

[@lostinmyhead07]

@@ENFORCJW outperforming? in ratings in ring not even close.

[@Yeneo]

​@@lostinmyhead07 such a mark

[@s-jj6is]

The show was amazing - a low rating doesn’t really mean anything. -Dave Meltzer, AEW Meatsucker

[@BubleSwag]

69 likes nice

[@tw475]

we will see next week. the rating is a reflection of the previous week. based off this last week's show was not good because people didn't want to watch this week.

[@johansvensson833]

but if nobody watches the show the live attendence will aslo go down

[@shobitchouksey3442]

Raw ratings suck too does that mean that show is bad ?

[@csmartin85]

You can tell this hurts Dave in his soul.

[@muryt12]

Dave,Tony,Jack Perry,The Bucks,the entire company. Rent free in all of your heads. Every single second of every single day.

[@csmartin85]

@@muryt12 ...the 5 minutes of the video that I watched but hey you were almost there

[@RunandLift2]

@@muryt12 You definitely cried while writing that

[@muryt12]

​@@RunandLift2You're the one that has been crying in the comments trying to reply to me brother. Obviously an entire company lives in your head completely rent free for absolutely no reason at all too. Sad.

[@RunandLift2]

@muryt12 If you don't grow up fast, you're going to be crushed when Aew gets pulled off cable. You just don't understand. It's like you are either really ignorant or really dumb. WWE lives rent-free inside Tony's head. Having a different opinion is not letting a company live rent-free. Only a dumb person would believe that.

[@terriblecoughing4767]

Now compare this to Dave's reviews of the death of WCW where he forthrightly says that the garbage creative and shows were to blame.

[@yawnytaco]

I think, he's on the take. Prolly has been since day one. It's is rep to prove the world wrong on that.

[@danmckinnon137]

​@@yawnytacoI don't think he is. This is his style of wrestling. He doesn't want to admit that it's not gonna draw anyone other than the niche of a Fandom. That would be admitting that everyone he said was "out of touch" was right. He can't let it go because the Money Mark is a subscriber and he is boys with the EVPs

[@sixgunguerrilla]

@@danmckinnon137 It doesn't need to be money. Dave just wants to be flattered and AEW gave him something no one else ever would: People in positions of influence within the industry legitimizing what he does. That's all this has ever been.

[@beegnutzz]

He can't call out the garage creative, because he would book the same thing if he had a chance. This is the perfect wrestling in his opinion. He would have to revisit his entire wrestling philosophy if he did

[@shobitchouksey3442]

Because it was garbage creative while aew is perfect their booing is near perfect

[@Bowler6611]

Jim Cornette is gonna have a FIELD DAY with this 😂😂😂

[@DominusHydra-yc1lc]

Yeah and he needs to make it snappy.

[@5Catano4SMMA7]

Did you see Jacob Fatu's debute? Thats how you do a debute, Okada, Osprey, and Mone, those 3 mean nothing now, and its too late to fix it..

[@DominusHydra-yc1lc]

EVEN JOE HENDRY DEBUT/CAMEO ON NXT BLEW UP!! 😂😂.. Makes Okada look like Savio Vega

[@dsadams17]

That was a debut? where was the hype video to introduce him to the audience?

[@zachbrown1988]

@@dsadams17you mean like Okada and Osprey got? Oh wait..

[@5Catano4SMMA7]

@dsadams17 they didn't need a hype video. Jacob basically showed everything he can do with that debute.

[@robertmckofke4470]

Tony. Can’t. Book. That’s it, that’s the problem.

[@drpiv]

The length of this video is hilarious, this is at best a 60 second conversation

[@yoshbennett8637]

Dynamite almost lost the Demo to an American Dad rerun on Adult Swim tough competition that night

[@CoffeeStain-Music]

The episode where they aired the Brawl Out footage got 819,000 viewers. I believe the results are in. It was a bad decision. Down almost 40% in that span.

[@zachbrown1988]

That’s their highest rated episode ever since too 😂😂😂

[@halfwaydown7423]

Daves just afraid to say Joe Hendry draws more than Okada and Ospreay. Edit: Lot of triggered fans here. It's a joke relax.

[@muryt12]

99% sure you didn't know he existed till he debuted at NXT. Now time to glaze I guess.

[@halfwaydown7423]

@@muryt12 I did but go off lol.

[@RunandLift2]

@@muryt12 You're salty. Obviously people knew who Joe Hendry was. His appearance is blasting on WWE's KZbin. The crowd exploded and sang his theme.He was a big reason for that good rating. But because he is stating a fact. Hendry did, in fact, outdraw Okada and Ospreay. You wanna act like he didn't know him? Mark behavior. This is that Meltzer bubble effect. So much focus on the wrestling, you lose the plot.

[@duckmercy11]

Then why couldn't TNA draw flies with him there? Okada main evented crowds 50x as big as Hendry.

[@RunandLift2]

@@duckmercy11 In Japan. Nobody cares in the U.S. NOBODY. Why is that hard to understand. Aew went from 681,000 to 502,000, and you want to talk about Okada in New Japan? That's exactly why Aew is in the shitter. That right there. That's denial at the current facts. NXT 724,000 > Dynamite 502,000

[@Rommas.]

Hurts Uncle Dave's soul that people aren't interested in the kind of wrestling that is solely placated towards him. A 50 year old Edge broke his leg needlessly jumping off the top of a cage to get a pop out of these nerds.

[@emon8523]

The same nerds that pop for uncle howdy and his band of puppets dressed in Halloween costumes? So much more realistic…

[@Charsi_Escobar]

⁠@@emon8523they can’t even beat the developmental show in the ratings, comparing them to Raw at this time is not practical

[@jilujoilujiut2165]

@@emon8523 Must hurt daves soul that people would much rather see that then 20 000 flips and super kicks that everyone gets up from cause that is soo much more realistic then people playing dress up .... o wait

[@todpolk]

@@emon8523that’s stupid too but nobody got hurt for it unlike Edge

[@zachbrown1988]

@@emon8523you mean the over 2 million people that watched that video of their debut in less than a week? Literally 4 times Dynamites audience?? All those nerds???

[@cameronfowler3381]

Bryan not being Dave’s opposite here for this particular discussion is telling.

[@nin_tendo6458]

It tells you that it's Friday.

[@CuttingJoMama]

@@nin_tendo6458 the fuck he's doing on Friday

[@BonsaiM]

@@CuttingJoMama Hiding from his bullshit NXT take that has blown up in his face.

[@zerozeeros]

He has Fridays off genius nothing more too it​@@CuttingJoMama

[@ChrisCards]

Dave is always with Garrett on friday.... and I'm not sure if you notice or not but bryan doesn't have discussions with Dave. He just brings up topics and let's him go.

[@jimothybikael]

4:45 is what you came for

[@rentoptional1524]

Drink every time Dave makes an excuse for AEW. You'll be dead by 5:00

[@SeeingShadows]

What excuses?

[@ffffff52]

Im usually not that involved to really care about Dave's favouritism but this video shows how crazy he is tryign to brush it off, he even stutters far more than usual tryign to come up with a different excuse every other sentence lol

[@rentoptional1524]

@@ffffff52 lol the discovery channel and a Kendrick Lamar concert were the reasons for the bad rating. Dave has lost it.

[@CMc_39]

@@SeeingShadowsif you’re gona act like Dave doesn’t make excuse after excuse for every negative thing that’s said about AEW then you’re a bigger idiot than he is

[@RichardRietdijk]

I do that every time he says “you know”. 😂

[@EmperorPenguinn]

"Good looking people is the direction" did he low-key admit AEW has horrendous looking people?

[@kidneystonermusic]

Idk, AEW has some super good looking female wrestlers. One of the best things about their product

[@EmperorPenguinn]

@@kidneystonermusic so Is Unc here lying or what?

[@kidneystonermusic]

@@EmperorPenguinn this is the same guy that said Peyton Royce was hotter in NXT because she looked lighter 😆

[@shawnkavanagh2951]

Dave saying the 1st segment of the show was higher than normal is just flat out lies. Same as his statement that "the Big Bang lead in isn't usually the top rated segment" which is another lie. The 1st quarter is always the top rated quarter and they rapidly and progressively lose viewers as the show goes on.

[@joeyn5475]

I could not believe he said that. We can see the numbers every single week.

[@GreyGoose545]

1st segment was higher but you can't use real math with real number.

[@423chart]

Math is hard, let's give him a break 😂

[@christopherbrierley9860]

I’m sure he said the first segment wasn’t always higher in the 18-49 demo. A way to try and find a positive

[@-The-Darkside]

Wait until you realize what he says about Russos WCW numbers is also a lie

[@GreyGoose545]

Bad booking, the end

[@unclesteed]

"A lot of stuff going on..." lmao. The new all night gas station

[@user-rx2hw8up2j]

Gas stations are better booked

[@rentoptional1524]

Dave should just be honest and say it. TONY CAN'T BOOK!

[@PowerPackers90]

Dude, his booking style is the same Ttiple H. Just people like Triple H more cause NXT.

[@SeeingShadows]

Why do hate aew so much? For no reason

[@rentoptional1524]

@@PowerPackers90 HHH knows how to build stars. Tony books Orange Cassidy. Name 3 wrestlers that are doing better now than they were before they were in AEW. Swerve.....and....?

[@muryt12]

​@@rentoptional1524Swerve,Toni Storm,Christian Cage. Want more?

[@PowerPackers90]

@rentoptional1524 Sweve, MJF, Jack Perry, Orange is over, Darby, Eddie Kingston, etc. Osprey gets the loudest reactions, Toni Storm The aclaimed. Those guys are all over.

[@bidgeon1423]

Tony can’t book. Pass it on.

[@thomasvanettes3039]

Shhhh..that's a secret

[@bobbyfagan7760]

That’s great

[@jer2dabear]

​@@bobbyfagan7760🔔

[@CMMalvado]

I literally paused the video immediately just to read the comments. 😂

[@iamdb1990]

the rambling goes on long enough to read a lot before it ends lol

[@jer2dabear]

Same

[@magnificentone4686]

What does Kendrick Lamar, CWS have to do with AEW’s low ratings? AEW must stand on its own against any and all competitors and as it stands now, it can’t! Stop making excuses for AEW ratings. It’s bad! Face it

[@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour]

Imagine thinking that making The Young Bucks your company's glass ceiling will even be able to sustain 502k 😂😂😂

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

What really GRINDS MY GEARS is that Dave's employees don't check him. This asian dude sits there and shakes his head and refuses to tell his 'boss' that he's DELUSIONAL. Bryan is trying to break free from his MK ULTRA programming lately, but is unsuccessful in totally breaking it. The rest however simply won't tell Dave that he has Stockholm Syndrome. IDGAF about rap or Kendrick Lamar, i was home, saw the first minute of MJF v. Rush and STILL turned the channel to baseball. And BTW, I factor in personally to the ratings as I'm a Nielsen member. So there's that......

[@ITSHIM1294]

Joe Hendry >>> AEW’s “Game Changers”

[@polsdofer]

I believe!

[@RevengerPhoenix]

I mean, they love him in London, Paris and Tokyo!

[@yourBrainOnDrugs]

​@@RevengerPhoenix America, Scotland and Canada and Tokyo.

[@atomicbrain9401]

Embarrassing

[@ohdoyle]

Can't we just say the show sucks?

[@quentinkaasa47]

Not to Meltzer. He thought MJF being obliterated by a nobody manlet in a 15 minute match was somehow good! And of course Dave didn't think the same thing when it was an actual grown man (Billy Gunn) doing the same thing to Jay White several months ago.

[@dparks006]

Pathetic comment. "Can't we just all have a hivemind belief and go back suck Triple H and his short PPV cards off" Can't we just say you're a sycophant? Its even more pathetic because sycophants usually simp for personal benefit. You aren't a wrestling fan.

[@dsadams17]

No, because that would be factually incorrect. The show was great, especially if you don't like dudes running around in shitty costumes pretending to murder people.

[@psyopticprodigy2427]

@@dsadams17 How is it factually incorrect? What people like is a subjective thing.

[@zachbrown1988]

⁠@@dsadams17you and the handful of virgins that actually watch this garbage can keep telling yourself that

[@csmartin85]

They were down their biggest star, what do y'all really expect? The answer is staring TK dead in the face. Put the belt on Sheldon Cooper at Wembley.

[@ENFORCJW]

Bazingamania

[@juliuspryce8514]

I love when i translate you to English yt says "we are mania" lol​@ENFORCJW

[@OgKamoGaming]

"Live attendance is great." As AEW struggles to sell 3000 for a Dynamite. 😂

[@andrebdd5818]

In 2 months when aew hits 400,000 viewers Dave will be like well espn has the national spelling bee on tv so that effected aew

[@GreyGoose545]

Spell ESPN, ESPN E S N P, ESPN.

[@reymondlopez7468]

2 months? Dude they hit 502,000 this past Wednesday. They could realistically hit 400k in a couple of weeks.

[@al5306]

They legit blamed the Little League World Series before lol so that wouldn’t surprise me

[@dsadams17]

And when they don't, will you eat your hat?

[@zachbrown1988]

@@dsadams17why do you want him to eat his hat? You got your eye on it?? The average AEW fan is an overweight basement dwelling virgin so im guessing you’re asking if he’s going to eat his hat because if not you want it right ??

[@spqr194]

It's like listening to Rain Man talk

[@FreeTheRightSide]

Ratings are low, it’s Kendrick Lamar’s fault, one minute to Wapner 😂

[@joshuamessenger]

TK booked Rhett Titus vs Daniel Garcia on National Television... He got the rating he deserved.

[@zachbrown1988]

For fucking real

[@markfacebook]

Guys, Dave's not bringing up the fact that Nick At Nite was running an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond that did a killer number in that 9pm timeslot. I think it was the episode where Raymond's wife is a massive C. Lol

[@zachbrown1988]

To be fair….debra acts the way she does because ray is the way he is lol

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

As always, the simplest solution is probably the most accurate. As much as the markiest of AEW fans attempt to deny it, every single year Forbidden Door season sees a huge drop in ratings, and theres always one week where the rating shockingly tanks. When your baseline of viewership is 200k less than it was in the past, when that huge tank happens, the number ends up even shockingly lower than before. At some point someone in AEW will figure out, even AEW fans don't give a crap about Forbidden Door

[@emon8523]

That someone should be Tony Khan but he’s too proud to admit he’s the problem

[@wrestlingp]

AEW has killed themselves and NJPW has destroyed their own credibility by getting in bed with them

[@edenton1974]

Could be correcr

[@georgeh4171]

It will never be corrected because Tony will never admit that he is wrong. Unfortunately he has an army of hardcore AEW sycophants who defend him so he thinks he is doing well.

[@sbz88]

Meltzer is partially responsible for this. Man just outright refuses to tell the truth about Tony's booking. There is always an excuse. TONY CAN'T BOOK. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT TUNING IN.

[@wrestlingp]

Remember when Britt Baker was saying that getting Meltzer's stars was 'what it is all about' - the whole promotion was based on wrestling Meltzer wanted. He's definitely responsible, his career is in tatters over AEW.

[@zachbrown1988]

@@wrestlingpfor real and you compare this with his coverage of WCW in the day when he just outright said the booking is garbage. And now his bias against wwe and for AEW is so glaringly obvious it’s like come on

[@magnificentone4686]

No excuses Meltzer. Your favorite company is not hot and is cold fish. No more excuses! AEW sucks and you giving them 4.0 stars is killing this promotion as well as Tony Khan’s mouth.

[@ENFORCJW]

Looks like Arena's empty wrestling is now TV that noone watches.

[@edenton1974]

5k in the buidljng

[@ENFORCJW]

@@edenton1974 it was a 10,000 seat arena and there were 4167 tickets sold. not even 50%. Its okay AEW had the black tarps out on the hard cam side as usual :)

[@jessewahwah]

@@ENFORCJW WWE is the biggest wrestling company on the planet and Raw has about 7-8 thousand fans.

[@jaust9077]

@@jessewahwah LOL RAW was sold out with the almost 8,000 fans last week and popped triple the rating of Dynamite despite all of the top stars right now basically being on smackdown lol, not to mention it was AGAINST GAME 5 of the NBA finals lol. Take the L man.

[@jessewahwah]

@@jaust9077 Take the L? You say that like you work for the company. Silly WWE stooges. Raw sells out an 8000 seat arena. WOW. They do double the arena sales with a fan base that is 6x what AEW's is. Do the math on that.............. When they start selling out 18,000 seat arenas come talk to me about attendance.

[@wvang0013]

Booking for Dave Meltzer's approval is what is killing AEW. People don't want to watch spot monkeys and The Elite doing stupid shit. They want engaging storylines and characters.

[@GreyGoose545]

Dave Meltzer has years in the business. 5, 6, 7, 8, 100 star matches.

[@vb2806]

​@@GreyGoose545Dave Meltzer has no experience in the business

[@dsadams17]

They HAVE engaging storylines; it's just not mind-numbingly braindead, paint-by-numbers, explain every step of the way for the viewer, storylines.

[@AdrianBeegoatz]

@@dsadams17; I’d love to hear what the “engaging” storylines are? Babyface Hero Will Ospreay who is for some reason still in a Heel group led by Don Callis. Who insists Ospreay use a dangerous Tiger Driver ‘91 move that he never even won a match with. And Will is reluctant to do so?

[@zachbrown1988]

@@dsadams17engaging storylines? Where??

[@mattypaul87]

Well hey at least the "sickos" stayed around to watch. That's who Tony books for, right? Way to alienate the casual viewers that were trying to give AEW a chance with the potential that was shown back in 2021/2022.

[@zachbrown1988]

Came here to say a version of this.

[@TSTVluvr]

Imagine having to rely on the Big Bang theory to maintain your ratings 😂

[@MatthewSmith-nc3vg]

This proves Dynamite needs Big Bang Theory and if any other network sees that too then will AEW get other offers?

[@zachbrown1988]

I mean probably but not the kind of big money offers Tony needs to have this thing make money. Ultimately cm punk was right

[@jacosisaba]

When your main draw is "great matches" people stop feeling the need to tune in every week to see another great match compared to the next part in a great story.

[@kb4231]

You nailed it.

[@duckmercy11]

Dave acknowledged this in the video.

[@MarkieDood]

It's funny, and also sad, but yeah. I like, care less about great wrestling matches than I did 5 years ago, because I've kind of grown numb to it because it's all AEW ever does. Like if NJPW's G1 was a year-round thing, no one would care about the G1, you know?

[@MadVybez]

🎯🎯🎯🎯 It's like they don't realise it's a TV soap opera with fighting

[@philc.5100]

If TK just put his pride to the side, quite booking and hired a couple of experienced bookers then we'd all be happy

[@Mymommasaid811]

“Well you know that Hauk Tuah girl blew up and people were looking up her videos and that is out of TK’s control” D Meltzer

[@wrestlingp]

She a good girl tho not gonna lie

[@zachbrown1988]

Lmao for real the excuses are insane…that video is gold though

[@Pikmii]

Hahaha don't give Dave ideas 😅

[@vbjetta33]

😂😂😂😂

[@user-rx2hw8up2j]

HAUK TUAH is ALL ELITE!...make it happen Tony

[@Dipset449]

Does HHH regret not signing Ospreay yet like Dave kept saying he would?

[@zachbrown1988]

To be fair at least HHH would make sure Ospreay had a good introduction and storyline if he had signed. In AEW he’s a baby face in a heel group who refuses to use a move that’s never won him a match anyway wrestling competitive 20 minute matches against guys who are barely on tv let alone win matches

[@johansvensson833]

@@zachbrown1988 HHH wanted to sign hin but tony paid more for far less work for willy

[@josephcooke4678]

This rating should be a wake-up call to Tony Khan letting him know people have no interest in watching wrestlers from cmll AAA New Japan. Most of it is because they are brought onto the show without any kind of story for backgrounds and they just have a match

[@bfunderb5899]

The checks from AEW to Dave definitely cleared this week

[@santoclaws5590]

his checks were alot lower compared to brian alvarez and many others it's kind of pathetic when he was their biggest shill

[@todpolk]

Reminder: Dynamite has the smallest black demo of the wrestling shows. So blaming Lamar or Juneteenth by any fan for the rating just comes off as a tad racist.

[@dsadams17]

Implying only black people are fans of Kendrick Lamar.

[@jessewahwah]

Joe Biden supporter alert.

[@Julian-xj6mh]

@@dsadams17 who

[@Am0ment0fB]

Guys did you forget that the summer solstice just happened and we have a full moon tonight. And don't forget it's a leap year and we had them big solar flares and we had the solar eclipse. Ha.

[@zachbrown1988]

Also all of cable is down (he says while NXT actually grows in viewers )

[@Am0ment0fB]

​@@zachbrown1988the ol marble mouth fool actually said first it'll be the live attendance sinks then the ratings drop. So, he's literally explaining to us that it's really down and it's because it's shit nobody wants to see. I'm on Long Island and the show is coming up. I'm not going. $24 tickets too. Still not going. For what? To see Mjf vs evil uno guy? I hope Will Ospreay beats swerve clean and Tony alienates another 100k. Ha.

[@magnificentone4686]

Omg, Dave! Face facts! It a boring promotion. Tony said 5 years ago that he wanted it to be more NJPW like and he accomplished it. Boring and dull

[@JohnRigby5011]

These ratings for sure scared Tony for his life 😂

[@muryt12]

Here come the fragile Phil marks. You're late this time.

[@RunandLift2]

@@muryt12 That's your cope? Phil was the last time a non hardcore cared about Aew

[@muryt12]

​@@RunandLift2And then what? He got injured for the 8 millionth time,got in 2 fights,and then got fired. For the 4th time. 4th. I hope he goes to TNA some time so he can get fired from there too. Just to add to his marvelous collection. All those Punk marks can go cry me a river.

[@RunandLift2]

@@muryt12 Maybe you have been napping. But Punk doesn't need to wrestle to make money for himself, Drew and the company. He's 45. Save it for the ppv's. Not a random episode

[@GreyGoose545]

"WBD loves AEW" - TK

[@fringevoid]

There is no way he's not paid by them lol.

[@abdulisbatman1779]

Why does Meltzer talk exactly like how the memes portray he talks like? It’s bizzare, I honestly always thought it was an exaggeration 🤣

[@FatMenace]

Memes always point out the truth.

[@perryco34]

You put your biggest star against rush? What more can you say??

[@muryt12]

Yeah instead they should give a world championship title shot to Jinder Mahal right? Then fire him 2 months later of course.

[@nohbuddy1]

​@@muryt12 The silly Jinder match didn't tank the ratings

[@perryco34]

@@muryt12 MJF is dead in the water?

[@nowtheworld138]

@@muryt12maybe proves that MJF isn’t the end all be all. I think dude is average at best

[@vb2806]

​@@muryt12Jinder doesn't look like a jobber.

[@rich19727]

Excuses. There is always something going on on T.V. Can’t always use that excuse

[@REVAMPEDWRESTLING2K]

you know, you know, you know, you know, and you know is all Dave Meltzer says you know

[@GreyGoose545]

you know

[@unbreakableremid1541]

It's like, you know like, like, you know?

[@_Amit_Sunil]

ummm and you know... uhhh you know um..

[@embracinglogic1744]

Or whatever.

[@rickyvenegas9286]

Dave Please stop dancing around the question. There is no excuse for this garbage

[@DDRPriest]

I don't even know why they bother having anyone with Dave on these segments. He's basically talking to himself anyway. 😂😂

[@magnificentone4686]

This from a guy who gave Willow/Mercedes a 4.5 rating over Steamboat/Flair, UT/HBK, H/UT, Calihan/Pentagon, Steamboat/Savage, Rock/Hogan, etc:

[@chadams7753]

CM Punk leaving AEW was like when AJ Styles left TNA. It was just totally gone and changed forever. Bryan and Vinny even stopped following it at that point. It went from 2nd place to 4th behind RoH and NJPW, even 5th if you count NXT's golden years. AEW has been in a spiral since last fall and they really need to stop touring, save money, run Daily's Place like the Impact Zone and hunker down. They missed their shot and it was a totally unforced error on the talent's part.

[@aviwegexa9031]

AEW fell off when Cody left, he took their soul away. Punk was only a duct tape that eventually unravelled.

[@danmckinnon137]

​@@aviwegexa9031well the EVPs threw away their 2 biggest stars and expected that people would stay 😂

[@Kells5024]

Dave loves holding that mic lol

[@vbjetta33]

Lol aaaaaayooooooo

[@SteveOGlo]

He's in the middle of the ring cutting a promo

[@SteveOGlo]

He could have a mic like the other dude but it wouldn't be WRESTLING ENOUGH.

[@embracinglogic1744]

He's practicing for when he meets Tony Khan.

[@bmbxiii2045]

There is no coherent analysis here

[@doug2731]

Weird how booking for the sickos, Dave Meltzer and his message board denizens, doesn't lead to good ratings.

[@zachbrown1988]

As they cry about how they don’t want casuals watching anyway. These people are the kind of edgelords that stop watching a good show the second it gets popular

[@zamplify]

Discovery Channel had a pretty big show on, how can AEW be expected to draw a rating??

[@RunandLift2]

The sun was also out. Weather is to blame obviously

[@Luigitron51]

Yea so did the food network

[@duckmercy11]

Back in the attitude era Shark Week or one of those other animal documentaries legit beat RAW during the "higher power" angle IIRC. 😂

[@GreyGoose545]

It was Shark Week, I think.

[@sirtoby4939]

Might as well be claiming people tuned out to watch BBC Question Time election coverage...

[@SasukesSharingan.]

How delusional and sad do you gotta be to rely on a lead in that never ever helps your show. Its painfully obvious everyone part of the lead in doesnt watch the show...and now dave is blaming a kendric Lamar concert ... idk who dave think watches aew but it's definitely not kendrick Lamar fans

[@megatinmand5524]

Your brain can't wrap itself around a nuanced conversation huh? Stick to watching underage anime characters. Weeb

[@zachbrown1988]

Was so waiting for him to make some erroneous connection to swerve as champion 😂

[@stacymirba1433]

It's not shocking at all for those of us who have been pointing out they have a lot of issues to work through for at least a year now. If Dave reported on AEW like he did for WCW and TNA maybe he could claim to have pointed this out like the rest of us.

[@TheStraightTalkSociety]

My goodness Dave is dancing trying to find excuses. You have to offer more than just great wrestling matches, you can see that anywhere.

[@petemorris1885]

“There always a reason”. Funny how he never even entertains the idea that the reason is that AEW is bad TV…

[@bigtime-baxster5798]

Boy what’s gonna happen if NXT starts doing 750k-850k once they move to CW and AEW continues dropping? It’s gonna be WW3 on Twitter/X.

[@RunandLift2]

It's a one sided war. Aew has 20 minute matches that nobody outside hardcores care about. WWE has world class storytelling and presentation. Since wrestling is scripted, the entertainment aspect is what sells. Tony refuses to try and get casual fans to watch and care. And instead is losing 32% of his fanbase in 1 week

[@muryt12]

​@@RunandLift2Sorry to brag about it but watching a 3 hour sitcom that includes about 10 minutes of wrestling and 2 hours of last week's replays isn't everyone's cup of tea.

[@RunandLift2]

@@muryt12 It's alot more than watching pointless matches. Wrestling is pre determined. Storylines keep people around. Not boring ass matches that mean nothing. Raw + Smackdown draws 4 million a week combined. NXT 724,000. Dynamite had 502,000. And you are actually saying that?

[@QualtM]

I predict AEW will continue to put on great shows and their fanbase will enjoy them

[@joenobody5631]

​@@QualtM"Great shows" 😂

[@Clarkmark-ke1pe]

Dave you are just giving more content to other podcasters

[@whooosedooo]

Well, this is his job.

[@scotthunt4206]

So it's Black Panthers fault. It's the College World Series fault. It's Olympic Trials fault. It's Juneteenth and Kendrick. It's Expedition Unknown. Whatever you need to tell yourself to avoid admitting that fans are REJECTING this product in increasing numbers.

[@ResistingDeath]

I guess a bunch of AEW fans weren't too pleased to be called sickos. 🤷🏽

[@zachbrown1988]

Better than basement dwelling virgin losers, which is what they actually are

[@OzInglorious]

35-49 year mens demo has a lot of lapsed WCW era fans including myself and friends who came back because of AEW. I'm the only one still watching the show - nobody cares about Top Flight, Action Andretti and Daniel Garcia yet we're force fed these barely-above average clowns on TV every week at the expense of people that can actually move the needle. Its maddening

[@zemm9003]

Amazing he didn't blame it on Euro 2024. Although that would have been hard to do. The games on Wednesday all ended before AEW started.

[@ronniesouthern7829]

Dave: I’m uhm uhm uhm at a loss you know uhm uhm for words uhm uhm.

[@423chart]

1:01 YES DAVE! Things are that terrible and have been for quite some time!!!

[@homersimpson7096]

This is what happens when you have no good story lines, or character development. 99% the North American audience doesn’t care about new Japan wrestling or their “stars”

[@RevengerPhoenix]

Showing the Punk footage was really the finger poke of doom after all

[@stevemccullagh36]

Meltzer doesn't seem to realise that "great matches" mean fuck all if nobody watches them.

[@dus10Bish0p]

Dave talking himself off a ledge for 15 minutes. "WWE does a good job recruiting good looking people.'

[@CallMeCrazyCallMePoor]

Worth noting that the audience has shrunk, not just the TV audience. The Swerve/Ospreay segment has yet to reach 300,000 views on youtube. There are still foreign markets, but less people saw that on the US broadcast and KZbin combined then would be typical for US TV alone.

[@harishsubramanian1241]

That was a good segment, but damn, less than 300k on KZbin? That's terrible. And this is coming from someone who has been critical of AEW over the last year and a half.

[@BonsaiM]

@@harishsubramanian1241 Oh no but according the cult experts, everything is fine as long as everyone is having fun! You know, as they currently have to darken the arenas to obscure the half empty seats that litter that area. We are deep in delusional territory with these fans now as truth stares them in the face. Its as the comic strip with the dog sitting in a burning room says: "Everything is fine".

[@emon8523]

@@BonsaiMfor all of you people that despise this company so much y’all sure have a lot to say about it. Why do you care what happens or who still enjoys it? Do something more important with your life

[@reymondlopez7468]

All Tony khan cares about are dream matches with his favorite wrestlers but forgets any kind of story or buildup. So after the dream match takes place the audience has absolutely no reason to care.

[@todpolk]

@@emon8523Same applies to Dub sycophants lol. Quit the projection

[@FrozenSurf]

You mean faceless Mexican wrestlers nobody has heard of aren’t a draw? I’m shocked

[@D4NK1]

Dave is booking by proxy through Tony. This is the result. Maybe 5% of the potential wrestling audience has any taste for Dave's ideas and even a large percentage of them prefer the WWE's product. As expected more excuses and no willingness to accept that he's been wrong for 30+ years Anyone associated with AEW is seeing their stock collapse. MJF had people hyping him up for so long and now he's shown not to be a draw or a good champion, why would Paul Levesque even want him now other than to rub it in Tonys face?

[@GreyGoose545]

Paul Levesque loves guys smaller than him so he would love MJF.

[@D4NK1]

@@GreyGoose545 at what price? If MJF is humble enough to accept the large pay cut that he is going to get in WWE with the understanding that he can build a future there then yes. But WWE was never going to offer him more than Tony, and if he leaves AEW because its out of money then its only bidding against TNA

[@danmckinnon137]

​​@@GreyGoose545 he books guys better too

[@judshuttie70]

There was over 200k lost there is no % of any group losing 200k ffs the cope is getting embarrassing dave stop being pathetic.

[@dsadams17]

How much has Raw lost since Wrestlemania?

[@judshuttie70]

@@dsadams17 nowhere even close to the number aew has. according to Dave 200k is because some concert that age group love is performing but to lose 200k in that demo means nobody else aat any age group watch aew lmao but we know aew does on good week .22in key demo so if .22 of there 700k viewers are in that age group that means 200k of 700k is is around .3 somare we to believe aew lost every single man in that range 🤣🤣🤣🤣 now WWE hasn't dropped anywhere close to that

[@zachbrown1988]

@@dsadams17nowhere near what AEW is losing on a year by year basis. Not to mention those fans always come back too. See, wwe has casual fans like that. AEW only has basement dwelling virgin losers like you

[@danmckinnon137]

​@@dsadams17😂😂😂😂🤡

[@billywelch8047]

Dave forgot to mention there's a new 24 hour gas station that opened in Council Bluffs.

[@DARC-87]

Boy, Cornette breaks down the ratings in such a concise, honest way every week that it's really difficult to get through this video. Dave is so wonky

[@JohnnyPerth]

lol, is Dave paid not to criticize aew ?

[@Hotdiggity11]

“There was still a lot of stuff going on.” Literally no major sporting event was going on that day lol. And no, baseball in June doesn’t count.

[@xShoTime83x]

All Excuses Wrestling has never been more appropriate than now. It's Tony's booking, like the problem has always been Tony's booking.

[@RichardH.MysticJessieFan6425]

JESUS DAVE!!!! STOP MAKING EXCUSES!! 😂

[@Phantom7inCH]

Oh no now it won’t be on tv anymore because the Meltzer groupies in the comment section said so 😂

[@GreyGoose545]

But no one watches TV so it wouldn't happen. I think?