Fable 2024 trailer breakdown

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@chepiksacc
@chepiksacc 6 ай бұрын
I started with F1, but 2 is always my favourite. Thanks for this video.
@TidusTraceur
@TidusTraceur 6 ай бұрын
There's going to be a new Fable! How did I miss this.
@itsJoshW
@itsJoshW 6 ай бұрын
Subbed, I'm glad to see more people do analysis videos for Fable. 1:20 - It's actually the Fable 1 guild seal. Fable 3's was the size of a head, plus the Fable 1 Guild Seal was wearable and feasible to hold in your hand (ceremony at the beginning). Fable 2 & Fable 3 had crazy re-designs. And while this "looks like the image that you find on google", the truth is that they're all the same design inside, with Fable 1 being 'small'. 1:27 - Also I want to point out that that is a pen that is in the shape of Humphrey's Mace. 1:30 - Yes the portrait! I want to note that it's a Scythe Axe being carried by a woman in a red robe. 4:28 - So color dyes. Idk, it's possible. But I don't think, in 2024, they would "resort to dye". Truth be told, I think these potentially are potions. 6:47 - There is not yet, but don't tempt me lol. 7:06 - Actually, we sort of have in passing, if you will. Nostro's Shield lol. Although I'm not saying that Humphrey is Nostro, imagine if he was? 8:01 - Well yes, but also no. We didn't get shot from 'that' castle, but I'm positive that they took the idea of it and morphed it into Fable's original lore. Judging from the architecture, you can tell it's designed and modeled from Fable 1. I'd probably argue that the entire intention here was to expand upon what was created in later entries and mesh it into a prequel-esq entry; Something where they can have a good starting ground to reboot the series from. 8:17 - North & South, would be the accurate take, and I'm positive that's what they're going for. We have to remember that this is a reboot, and in order to do a reboot, they probably are going to take heavy inspiration from the first entry in many ways, while tipping the hat to the latter, or incorporating it in a unique way to mesh into their vision. 9:04 - That says "Odds & Sodds", which is a pun off The Who, but Sod is a type of soup. It's less of a "pub" and more of an eatery, or a General Shop if I had to guess. The The Cow & Corset was only in Fable 2. Fable 3 had The Cook in the Crown. 10:08 - Yeah, the Renown system. 10:15 - What I like here is that it shows the duality of renown -- Being Good, you get people that obsess over you, bad you get people that despise you. 10:39 - I think almost all of it is an attempt to smear the game or pressure the developer to bend the knee (so they can get a game that no one really wanted, which will tank the game), and so they can pretend that the entire problem with the game is political -- when literally in Fable 2 in 2008 you could change your gender not just at the start of the game, but as a quest for getting the castle lol. A large part of it is just stupidity, a secondary part of it is "xbox bad, microsoft bad, we must insinuate everything that we disagree with is an attack on us personally". Also you're correct. Fable 1 had one of the ugliest hero's in video game history, Fable 2 your characters were still, unironically, ugly. Fable 3 that sort of changed...but you were also "king/queen". 11:37 - I really hope not lol. If I had to guess, the Toads are probably something like the Wasps and various creatures in Fable 1. But it's possible from where 13:09 - I agree to some capacity, but I do hope that the duality of "good vs evil" is like Fable 1, where the perception on that isn't entirely one or another, and it's a collection of choices that depict a nuanced outcome, rather than a simple "kill the dog or give it medicine". 14:28 - Agreed, one thing I did enjoy about Fable 2 & 3 was the amount of unique side content. I do like how the choices impacted the world, but what I disliked was the choices itself, along with the lack of importance these choices actually made to the story. Where in Fable 1, they didn't impact the world but it did have slight outcomes on the story. 16:02 - Yup, plus the mace. At first I didn't even realize it was a mace, another KZbinr actually queued me to realize "that's a mace" lol. 16:40 - Yeah, I mean that's traditional Fable in general, Fable 1 I liked it the most due requiring these in order to unlock specific magic. 18:44 - That would be the Guild Hall, correct. However, I don't think it's echoing that, as there are clearly hero's running around, with Humphrey not only saying he raised one, but in a scene after we see one. If you recall the lore before Fable 1, there was the divide in the Guild after Nostro which caused the guild to go through a sort of civil war. Essentially, I think they're doing that. I think what they're doing here is rebooting the series (almost entirely) and taking the original lore from the game, and morphing that into a story and plot that can expand beyond one game. That being said, I don't think it's a time "without heros". I think it's a time with Hero's choosing to be bandits, if you will. And I think that the antihero at the end, which I'll call her, essentially is trying to take it into her own hands, a different way. 19:42 - Agreed, he trolls in this look like an insane hybrid between Fable 1 and Fable 2. I understand that; I played Fable 1 in 2004, I was actually following the dev of it in 2003 when I first heard about it. Fable 2 changed a lot of the game which I personally disliked, but I like some of the concepts added into it. The Fable I hated was Fable 3 and after; Especially hated that Fable Legends didn't even have a story (they intentionally were never going to have it with a story), and it was literally a multiplayer game. 20:55 - I mean, I use to just slow time down and use "Double Hit" with the most powerful sword you can buy, and that's not even a speed running strat I don't think? It's just easier for me lol. I also agree, hopefully it moves around. 22:20 - Ooo good catch! 24:10 - I didn't even notice that she caught the projectile, good catch (pun intended). I'm hoping that's a potential gameplay mechanic. 24:42 - I have seen zero guns, and I'm very happy for that. I wanted Fable, if I wanted to play with guns I wouldn't be wanting to play Fable (imho lol). See, paying attention to the detail I can see that it's before Fable 1. From the architecture to the queues in how they're presenting the hero's, and all the bits between, I believe this is more so a unique take on the lore behind Fable 1, rather than between certain era games. If they did "between" them, I honestly would think it wouldn't be a Reboot, and I think they're going for "Reboot". 27:30 - Yeah, so my take is "antihero". The dialog screams "They aren't a villain, they're an antihero". 28:17 - It's not, though. Theresa never has a role besides aiding the character in a basic quest. While Theresa, as in the actual character in Fable 1, was only a seeress (and frail at that), they morphed her character into something that is God-like, rather than what she actually was. 28:34 - If it was Theresa, they would use the same or close to the same voice actress, Zoe Wanamaker. It's not Theresa lol. Additionally, I don't think they would go with a brand new character, but instead one that is so familiar but so unknown to the broad majority of players who never fully read every bit of lore of the game, imho. Like go up to anyone who just played Fable 1, 2 or 3, and ask them if they know who the court and the Void is 28:56 - Yes, that's my potential thought process. I believe Scarlet Robe would be more accurate here, especially since it fits both the bill & the lore of the series. She does wield a giant great axe. However, that's is a Battle Axe Scythe. Which would, actually, fit perfectly into the lore of the series. 29:37 - The reason why it wouldn't be the Queen of Blades is because the Court was Godly creatures from another realm (Coined "The Void") who controlled Albion. William Black essentially locked The Court into the Void with his "powers of Will". Essentially, if it was Queen of Blades, much like Jack of Blades in Fable 1, they wouldn't need any sort of mentoring or teaching, since they would be the ones who had Magic, while Human's typically didn't. "Hero's" didn't exist until the era of Will iirc, which is why there is that internal war of the Hero's about choices or something, which in turn is the lore behind "Why there is evil and good quests at the guild" for Fable 1. 29:44 - I think the Antagonist in this game will end up being The Court, or potentially a return of Jack of Blades toward the end, due to whatever is happening with Scarlet Robe. But that's all conjecture and assumption -- We won't know until we have more info. 30:05 - Correct, and I can see where you're coming from. That's why I think they're doing what they are doing. The Court could legitimately be a great villain for the series, and in turn Jack of Blades if provided enough context, story, and elements that warrant some sort of backstory. But otherwise, I don't think they would create entirely new lore and villains/creations since most of that was why the game series became so far removed with each iteration. Plus, this is a reboot. I think, imho, what they're trying to do is recapture the essence of "what could have been" a Fable 1 prequel if it was created in the modern era.
@itsJoshW
@itsJoshW 6 ай бұрын
I've also been writing this comment for a good 5 hours now, legit because I'm working. And since that time, Skyrion has posted his video where he, and as you made a pun of, is inspecting the painting LOL. Oh my god.
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
Hey, first off thanks for putting so much time effort and thought into this awesome response! I really appreciate it, I even learned quite a bit from it. I would say I know more than your average Hobbe, but there's still loads of hidden lore and background I don't know. I wrote, filmed, and edited this all in one go before watching any other analysis videos. I wanted to be sure I wasn't regurgitating someone else's content. I'll go check out some others now as I'm sure there's things I've missed. Thanks again for the great response.
@loganatkins1171
@loganatkins1171 6 ай бұрын
So I commented this but you put so much effort into this comment I figured you’d enjoy it. I think it could be the queen of blades as (if they kept the lore solid) the queen of blades and the knight of blades sealed their souls into the masks that Jack of blades wears on his chest. Meaning someone could very well of found her mask and worn for “the power to save the guild”
@jameswarner1928
@jameswarner1928 Ай бұрын
This was great! Thanks for doing such a thoughtful and entertaining breakdown :) I like that the melee execution is based on a real thing people did called "mordhau" (translates to murder stroke). I definitely think the time period is supposed to be close to Fable 1, we're missing a lot of those 18th century trappings like tricornes, frock coats and sabres you see in Fable 2. Big fan of the direction they're going with the music, it really compliments the tone they're going for. In my opinion, everything presented in the trailers so far strikes a far better balance of understated comedy and meaningful drama than the previous entries. The others could be a little.... mood whiplash.
@MakeULaughProd
@MakeULaughProd 6 ай бұрын
I LIKE FABLE AND I LIKE THIS BREAKDOWN - THANK YOU!
@andrewrutherford9255
@andrewrutherford9255 6 ай бұрын
Great breakdown. Crazy this video doesnt have more views
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, i really appreciate it. Share it with you friends haha! But seriously, thanks very much for the kind comment.
@christianmarple2307
@christianmarple2307 6 ай бұрын
Hey man, massive Fable fan here. Brilliant breakdown, it's very refreshing to hear content with such passion and depth for this franchise which is loved by many. Subscribed!
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm excited to do more as we get new trailers and reveals.
@fintangeraghty96
@fintangeraghty96 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great breakdown! I love the format that they've carved out for the last two trailers and how the story twists on the end of both demand a rewatch immediately. Three little details that to add to the conjecture are: 8:06 There's a for sale sign by the door of the building on the left. That could mean anything from having one house per area that you can buy like in Fable 1 or the entire economic system of Fable 2 and 3, but probably something in between. 15:41 I'm pretty sure that's the same character from the previous shot who tried to save someone, but probably led to the deaths of many. That scenario is very evocative of The Silver Balverine in F1 Knothole Glade, and I think this shot is him being imprisoned for his crime. The shot really stands out for it's lighting and composition as well as the rest of the trailer, which leads me to believe that there's going to be a baked lighting approach, for the missions at least. I can't imagine shots like this or the previous scene being effected by a dynamic time of day and only a lucky few arriving at the perfect cinematic lighting conditions. It could be the Spiderman approach of having a fixed time of day per chapter or a GTA 5 approach to speeding up time to the appropriate time of day. I also have a strong suspicion that we're going to see the seasons of Forza Horizon 4, but there's really nothing in any trailers so far to suggest that. 23:40 This "execution" seems to be non-lethal as she holds the blade and hits him with the hilt. Perhaps this works like Baldur's Gate 3 where you have a non-lethal toggle. I hope this means we'll see more nuance to violence, where a petty bandit can be taught a lesson instead of outright capacitated. Even Red Dead Redemption 2 started to feel ridiculous when I was being asked to take down armies of gangs, while living in amongst a camp of flawed individuals that I loved. Anyway, thanks for going through a lot of lore that I had no idea about. The idea that it could be a prequel about Scarlet Robe before Fable 1 was really enticing as she's also Theresa's mother.
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the thought out response! I saw a screenshot of that sign about 5 mins after posting this video, sods law haha. I think a compromise between fable 1 & 3's system would be great. But if we have to repair properties, please include a 'repair all button.' That being the guy from before is a very cool idea! Also i hadn't considered them including seasons, that would be beautiful. I can see time of day being set for certain quests, if this is a balvarine quest, it being set at night would make sense too. Non-leathal take downs would be a great option for the game, but i have to say, hitting someone in the head with the hilt of a sword is a lethal technique irl. but then, this isn't irl, so who knows haha! With a game that focuses on moral choices, non-lethal takedowns would be nice, i don't really want to murder the petty thief, but i don't want to let him go either. thanks again for the thought out comment.
@somanysequels
@somanysequels 6 ай бұрын
I started with the original Fable, but in many ways, Fable II is my favorite too.
@cortezismyman
@cortezismyman 6 ай бұрын
Finally a true breakdown!! You gained another sub. Awesome video!!
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you liked it, i really enjoyed making this breakdown too.
@headcannon9130
@headcannon9130 6 ай бұрын
Hey I checked out this video based on your recommendation from Reddit. I wanted to make sure to leave a comment here as well. I appreciate your insights and can't wait for another trailer to see how your thoughts change. Or if there are any details that confirm who this woman is. My only argument against the voice acting not being Zoe Wanamaker is that her voice is so iconic to this series that they would use it for the trainer to avoid spoilers. Just an additional thought. Thank you!
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
Awe thanks! I'm excited for more fable content, this video was fun to make too. You should check out @murgosbeard he did a different style of breakdown and came to a really interesting conclusion as to who the lady we see at the end it.
@shayZero
@shayZero 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I think the hero looks *normal* and I really cannot understand why this has been such a topic regarding this game. Jedi Fallen Order's protagonist isnt exactly Brad Pitt, also looked normal and that wasnt seen as an issue. Plus, Fable reboot hero looks quite a lot like the original hero in facial features. Im so excited for this game, more than any other. Loved the breakdown.
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 5 ай бұрын
i'm exctied too! I'm hoping we can pick male or female, but it's nowhere near a game braking descision for me. I'm wondering if we'll start as a child or not, i always enjoyed that section of the first two games.
@mattking68
@mattking68 Күн бұрын
Matt King here. I play Humphry. This is actually my face these days. It's a scan of my actual human face. It's been ten years since Peep Show finished and 21 years since it first aired. I am now 56 years old and my face has filled out (got fat). It's actually me in the game. Hope this helps. Have a very merry Christmas everyone. Matt x
@loganatkins1171
@loganatkins1171 6 ай бұрын
My feelings are very conflicted on which game I’d rather this be like. With these graphics and details you could make a fable 2ish game and we’d finally have a character like we seen on the box cover. But on the same note fable 1 is the bread and butter with a slap of jelly and we all know it.
@Redefine-Red
@Redefine-Red 6 ай бұрын
11:33 love the idea of the toads!
@Redefine-Red
@Redefine-Red 6 ай бұрын
I got an idea that Humphrey is the knight of blades and this staff lady is the queen of blades. Fable is very distinct in color choice at times. A red cape in the reboot trailer can’t be an accident.
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
that's a cool idea! It would be fun to see it play out. Like the knight of blades has decided to win over the public an be the hero, but the queen of blades isn't happy with it. so she's returned to mess things up.
@amitkumar77172
@amitkumar77172 5 ай бұрын
Incredible breakdown!
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, I really enjoyed making this one.
@DillonLee-ok9rm
@DillonLee-ok9rm 6 ай бұрын
I guess I'm old school but I really hope they bring back the mana bar. Always thought that Will in fable 2 and 3 was rather boring have to sit and charge spells to get the full output of a spell. If they could do a combo of spell mixing plus a mana bar I'd be a happy chicken chaser
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
I can totally see a mana bar working in a Fable game again. The spell charging always seemed to mess with enemy AI a bit too, they'd stand around and wait for you most of the time.
@loganatkins1171
@loganatkins1171 6 ай бұрын
Figured you’d like this theory to support your queen of blades theory. Just like jacks mask promises power to people and then takes their bodies. The queen and knight of blades mask do the exact same thing AND Jack of Blades keeps their masks on his person. They are the 2 second masks you can see him wearing on his chest in fable 1.
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
That's really interesting I had noticed the masks before but never put that together. Thanks!
@Dr__Haggard
@Dr__Haggard 6 ай бұрын
Croaking toads instead of gargoyles could be cool! Hopefully still some form of shooting random insulting things in the new one.
@tadcooper9733
@tadcooper9733 6 ай бұрын
eh, the greatest hero is Briar Rose. Who is this chicken chaser?
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
She's so mean! Could you imagine if it was briar Rose?! That really would be an unexpected choice, but she does wear red
@tadcooper9733
@tadcooper9733 6 ай бұрын
@@HeyVintage i hope you're joking. if youre being sarcastic i don't get it.
@benbroocks5831
@benbroocks5831 4 ай бұрын
Those lights could also be the different experience points
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 4 ай бұрын
that would be interesting, i wonder how they will implement experience. it could be absorbed like 1 & 2 or it could be a more generic overall experience like fable 3
@loganatkins1171
@loganatkins1171 6 ай бұрын
I love his armor honestly but damn I’m a dark knight play style all the way so I better have me some obsidian armor/weapons.
@kaleygoode1681
@kaleygoode1681 6 ай бұрын
Every time after a trailer somebody like this says, "it would be cool if there were nice trolls and infected trolls", the release date gets pushed back! 😂
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
Haha! The reason the game is taking so long is because the devs keep watching theory crafting videos and going "that's such a cool idea! Why aren't we doing that?" Then add 3 months of dev time.
@gavcarl
@gavcarl 6 ай бұрын
Fable two was amazing. I spent most of my time trying to earn money to buy real estate.
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
I always loved earning the King title by buying everything! The first time I bought the Cow and Corset felt like more of an achievement than buying Fairfax Castle haha!
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez 5 ай бұрын
Even after the fix, they still resemble Rob Schneider way too much.
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 5 ай бұрын
haha i hadn't made that connection.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez 5 ай бұрын
@@HeyVintage Now you can't unsee it. Me neither.
@elleh8520
@elleh8520 6 ай бұрын
Boost
@danhouston4931
@danhouston4931 6 ай бұрын
10:30 - The collective agrees that the characters is... unappealing... But if you dig the androgynous/nonbinary "look", that's cool too. Not sure I want to play as that person tho. It's a shame cause the world they built looks fresh. But the characters are really weird looking.
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 6 ай бұрын
I don't think there's any real indication that we do or don't pay as that hero. I'm excited for more fable content and the playable character doesn't impact that for me.
@antiseize11
@antiseize11 6 ай бұрын
I'll be surprised if we really do end up with this character and not have some form of character customization as the old games had.
@N00Bplayz08
@N00Bplayz08 4 ай бұрын
I think they should wait a year or two more, before they release this game. Because fans want it to be like the OG fable and this yeah.... If they f this up, then there is a big chance for the series to die. I don't care about who you play, but I care about the world. This "Fable" games gives me mixed feelings. It doesn't look like the age of hero's, but more like Fable 2 without guns, what do you guys think? And yeah, sad to say, but we are in a time, if its only a girl you play or bla bla its too woke and the game series also dies. So Xbox and Playground Games think before you release it!
@HeyVintage
@HeyVintage 4 ай бұрын
Playground games seem to be very good at releasing finished games, so i trust the deadline they've set. If it werent coming out until say 2027 i think it would have been a mistake to announce it so early. As for the series dying if this game isn't good, the series and original studio were already dead so this feels like a bonus already. I never expected to get another fable game. I get the same vibe as you, Fable 2 without guns. Although i wouldn't be against the inclusion of guns.
@N00Bplayz08
@N00Bplayz08 4 ай бұрын
@@HeyVintage I hope they make it great and you have some good points. Guns would be awesome, I loved Fable 2 mechanics! I'm going to subscribe to your channel. looking forward to more videos
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