Fable 3 - Retrospective Review

[@dasWombat01]

"Hey, first Bank of Albion? Yeah, it's me, the fucking King. Give me 6.5 mil to stave off the apocalypse. I'll pay you back with interest. If you don't, I have a couple thousand men under arms who'll come and get it anyway. Okay bye."

[@aidenhackett2849]

Innit, but I have to be the merchant king, Lord of all shops and profits

[@FattyMcFox]

All the Criticisms of this game and its systems is true, but weirdly, i still love it.

[@MoffMuppet]

Ah yes, the game where the best way to save the world from the force trying to consume everything... is to become a landlord.

[@MoffMuppet]

Also, it astounds me that after all the crap Reaver pulls we are expected to accept him as our advisor, rather than, say, popping him in the skull.

[@user-gm4kv2my4u]

To be fair. If aliens attacked corporations like black rock throwing all their resourced into defending earth would be a good bet for us. Of course at that point we have to consider if all we're really doing is choosing which tyrant we want to lord over us for the rest of human existence.

[@phunkracy]

​@@user-gm4kv2my4utheyd be the first to join the aliens

[@aidenhackett2849]

With them not degrading, I prefer shops and stalls as the game has plenty of content to grind while earning passively, you could say my story is a rise of a merchant prince, with less bull if you know that book

[@corexmaily]

Fable 3 is a really important game for me, it was my first experience with "story based rpg" games, leading me down a path of now loving all kinds of RPG and cRPG games. Sure, looking back on it with hindsight of the previous installations in the series it has its flaws, but it still holds a place in my heart as one of the games that got me into gaming in general.

[@ostrowulf]

LOL, you sound like my wife. It was a big intro into video games and story games for my wife.

[@Motion_God]

Same man

[@Rubidius]

Step 1: Follow main story until you are king. Step 2: Open the demon door that gives a million gold to the king. Step 3. Buy the most expensive mansions and raise the rent. Step 4: $$$$ Step 5: Save the kingdom.

[@Cooperal]

This franchise has once again just recently come back into my life. If anyone is dying for a new-ish Fable experience but can't wait to find out how the reboot turns out, I would recommend taking a detaour through a mod called Aeon Edition for Fable TLC. I think it needs to be the steam version you buy, which you still can despite Anniversary also being on there. Aeon Edition is basically the same game but it mixes up balance, exploration and rewards in lots and lots of surprising ways.

[@paulbaker78]

The only thing I remember about this game is the last boss goes "am I a father figure?" And I was like, no, I have no idea who you are. Good review 😊

[@JohnnyTightIips]

I love that Mortym is getting steadily more fed up with the game as he explains it more haha, this must be a stinker of a game

[@kredonystus7768]

It's not a stinker, it's just a rushed mess. For them to make the game they wanted to it needed 5 years of development at least, not 2.

[@MortismalGaming]

Its frustrating because the general premise should be an easy win and yet the game falls on its face constantly.

[@NoBeats_]

Fable 3 was so underwhelming and disappointing when I played it at release. It removed so much of what made the first two games fun that I don’t even know why it was released.

[@willthethrill9238]

I completely agree. I have come to enjoy it more over the years but that is probably just due to the fable drought.

[@corey2232]

I'm worried the new Fable will be the same. Graphics look great, but I'm not seeing the things that made Fable 1 & 2 so unique. But hopefully that's only because they haven't shown much of it yet.

[@badman5852]

But were the first two good though? Is this a series that needs more?

[@JKahz]

Wait till you play the new one....

[@TyeKindaFunny]

@@JKahzhasn’t even released so you can’t say anything

[@LivingGuy484]

I liekd Fable 3, because I played it as a kid with no prior Fable experience AND I remember interpreting much of it as a parody of a good story lol

[@kaizer-senpai2359]

*Fable 1 will always be the GOAT in my heart!*

[@christiankerns9403]

To be fair, i know its bad, but i absolutely adore the characters and the story all the same. Everyone in the game is just so charming and memorable and i remember crying when Walter died at the end of the game as he really was a great character in his own right

[@Liam-ei7sc]

Walter 😭

[@neil4692]

Remember liking the game a lot when I played it when it was released. I can't remember even why I liked it. It could be because I am British or something else but I do know if I tried to go back and replay it now I probably wouldn't enjoy it so I do myself a favour by choosing to keep the fond memories I have of it by not replaying it. I do remember coming up with stupid reasons not to go to school just to play more of it. Really was a fun time for me.

[@LVmobster27]

I can’t believe I played this game only ~13 years ago. I forgot so much about it. Everything except baking pies to play as the good guy while making enough money to get the good outcome. Then getting fed up over halfway through this pie hell and just going with the bad ending.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

The lack of menus thing was not as cool as they wanted it to be but I certainly appreciate that they tried something new.

[@user-gm4kv2my4u]

To be fair it did probably help lead to legit cool ideas in later games. For instance RDR2 letting you actually browse around shops and buy stuff from the shelves. Considering what nintendo is trying to do right now, good ideas being improved upon by other devs may be in jeopardy...

[@rainen5744]

It’s funny and a little sad to hear mortim get progressively annoyed until at the end when he’s describing the demon gate system.

[@Lorkynn]

The one thing I am most interested in with the reboot is what a Fable game will look like without Peter Molyneux over promising and vastly under delivering. I honestly think that Fable 3 suffered from the success of Fable 2. There was a two year game between the two games, where Fable 1 and Fable 2 had a four year gap between releases. I do love that they got John Cleese for your butler.

[@CASTERIHEX]

I will say, getting this game to work on the steam deck was easy for me. I had to manage all the files on a computer, but once I did that, when I transferred the files over to my steam deck, it was all good. That's not to say it was easy, but yeah. I even have it all backed up. Because I'm crazy and I like this game lmao (nostalgia. And reaver my love 💕)

[@robinhooduk8255]

i love fable3 for the aesthetics and voice acting, jokes. you mentioned there is no fail state to the game but lets face it there is no fail state to any games, all games run on a saving progress so really how much does death even matter? personally i think fable2 had the best compromise in that when ever you got knocked down you would get a scar, the only problem was most players only noticed this once it was already too late and the avatar was already looking like they had been in a war, but there was a real sense of pride uploading your endgame avatar that was scar free and looking good.

[@TheAzureGhost]

i liked the idea with the two gloves and comboing the magic and found the idea used again in some battle royal game not long ago called spellbreak which sadly kinda died out, not to mention i'm not that big into PvP nowdays. Was still pretty fun for the short while i played it as you had quite a lot of different combos as you started with 1 elemental glove of choice that came with a set of spells and could pick up the other elements during a match and combo (or combo with other players) to set a wind spell tornado on fire or turn a firewall into toxic devilish fire with acid and so on.

[@razorflossrazor2937]

Spellbreak dying made me sad. I played the hell out of that game. Took a break to focus on school (college is not fun) and when I came back it was dead.

[@macker33]

This was my favourite fable game.

[@Katolapse]

I really liked Fable and Fable 3. I couldn't get over the dog constantly barking in Fable 2 though. I've gone back a couple times and usually quit before the first hour is completed.

[@PapaPercules]

This was my first Fable game. I remember loving it hehe

[@MO-bo2du]

Games like Fable 3 and Dungeon Siege 3 taught me a hard lesson about not trusting brands and not pre-ordering special editions 😢

[@FruitsBootG]

I feel like this is the most negative review you've ever done on this channel, which makes sense since the fable series always seemed to devolve as the games went on

[@sewerentropy5217]

honestly i think Fable 3 has the same problems as the first 2 games. the full series feels like it's wearing the skin of computer rpgs to pander to console players. it doesn't help that Peter Molyneux kept promising insane things that could never be implemented.

[@bross92]

I actually laughed at the "re-experience the disappointment" line about the dlc

[@InsaneAlphaBeta]

"Its everybody's least favorite for a reason" Its literally my favorite of the fable games so thats not true lol Genuinely not even joking, i remember being so excited for it when it came out and i loved it. Ive replayed it several times, more then fable 1 and 2 even.

[@JustaGuy2.0]

Glad to know it's possible to make it run on the PC. Like you, i also have it on Steam, bought back in the day, but never got around to play it.

[@lazier4]

Repairing properties is pure pain on xbox. That repair all function is pc exclusive for some ungodly reason

[@hobojoe9717]

I played a ton of Fable 2 on the Xbox 360 back in the day, and so I remember being incredibly hyped for Fable 3. I don’t think over ever been so disappointed by a game in my life.

[@elisareffo4396]

I was having nostalgia for this game and literally just finished watching a play through today and I see this video came out just yesterday!!! I was literally feeling nostalgic for this game yesterday!!! What the hell!!!

[@angiegormely4673]

I hope you played this game despite this video. It is one of my favorite games. And if you were having nostalgia for the game, I'm sure you enjoyed it a lot as well.

[@Partiton3]

I think on the new game I would love more RPG elements for leveling and progression and a heavy focus on comedy, consequences, choice, and morality. I'm actually really okay if no real estate makes it into the game this time around and they lean into the things that made fable unique.

[@kaizer-senpai2359]

I was very disappointed when they didn't bring the RPG Mechanic's of the Fable 1 and just made the game more into the Kingdom Building Sim Game. Meanwhile the Story on 2 and 3 became less meaningful specially when trying to make a different playthrough (e.g Evil). The Final Bossfights are so lackluster unlike the Fable 1 where you fight the freaking Legend named Jack of Blades! His presence alone makes you think he's the Baddest of the Bad and he is, while giving you a Proper Bossfight unlike the Sequel Games. 😞

[@Llortnerof]

Frankly, 3 sounds a lot like they just took the various good ideas with zero understanding of what they actually are about and just crammed them all in one game with no skill or care.

[@ostrowulf]

Good point that was missed: John Clease.

[@OmenCrimson]

I remember playing throught thia game and getting the Understone DLC and getting so bored playing the DLC I just stopped and didn't play Fable 3 again for like 5 - 6 years lol

[@mikesb113]

Out of all my years watching your channel, I've never seen you mention Jade Empire. I'd love to see a retrospective or 100% review

[@MortismalGaming]

Tiny bit old, but Ive reviewed it already: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqepg4R7g5xobNE

[@user-gm4kv2my4u]

Ahh the good ole days when out of touch devs were almost charming in how out of touch they were Fans: Hey Peter these menus suck and need to be improved Peter: Agreed! Menus sucks and need to be taken out of the game Fans: Wut? NO! THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SAID!!! NOO!

[@bramvanherck8567]

despite all it's flaws that i noticed some of even as a kid Walter is probably still one of my favorite characters in the series.

[@razorboy251]

Love this retrspective series since I never played Fable (not having an X-Box) but still being curious about these games, since they were blockbuster sellers as I understand. Plus with new Fable on the way, it's neat to see what the original games were like. Incidentally, the story of Fable 3 seems to me like the basic plot of Mistborn which released a few years before Fable 3. I wonder if it's just a coincidence though.

[@angiegormely4673]

I hope you check out the series. Especially if you are into world immersion over plot. That's half the fun of the fable series

[@Echolaliaxu]

The game is locked to 30 fps by default and if you use Borderless Gaming, it can run at 60 fps instead (except for the map and the cutscenes), which made the game easier to look at for me.

[@elskythetaffer]

I really liked Fable I but couldn't get on board of Fable II and III. I would love a reboot based on the first one but expanded.

[@NotXsoXoptic]

Probably the quintessential better ideas than execution example

[@aggieking87]

Thanks for the video!

[@Avrimor]

Games for Windows Live window is a blast from the past lol

[@ZaeBae22]

Its wild how I don't even remember this game at all.. but I remember fable 1&2 really well. Saids a lot tbh lmao

[@PSGameStation]

It's wild to me that Microsoft is too lazy to bring this game back on Steam.

[@alexs_toy_barn]

I remember playing this game a decade ago and loving it until the final 10 minutes when the '0 days until the crawler attack' loading screen pops up unexpectedly, which I didn't have the money to afford since it was like like day 180 a minute earlier, so I was forced into the bad ending by accident since the game didn't pace the 'final year' properly. A very bad stain on what was otherwise a great solo and co-op experience for me, since I didn't know about the real estate system cheese lol

[@GambitRaps]

I always said Fable 3 would be a fine game as a standalone experience, but as a follow-up to the original Fable, the kindest thing I can call it is disappointing.

[@Malaena]

Yeah I played this again about a year ago. It was an issue to set up and put a couple mods on it.

[@coconutologist]

Thanks for the video. I'm definitely less optimistic about the remake. If they actually put the time and energy into the remake, then it probably will be medieval-like, dark fantasy open world where "choices matter" with a refined combat system. That sounds like it's just going to be more of The Witcher 3, but done worse. Who knows. Maybe what The Witcher 3 really needed was a broken property management system. Onward to 400k. All glory to the algorithm.

[@jy-li1jq]

Despite all hate for fable 3 it was the first game i fully beat and how when i learned landlords is the way to get rich

[@figuures6098]

Ah yes, the greatest magic in a Hero’s arsenal: property management

[@SaraphDarklaw]

I ended up killing everyone in my ending. When I explored the world after the final boss, there were literally 0 npcs. So I tried to play it over again, this time making myself a landlord but I got bored and never finished my second play through. I must’ve played the first one like 15 times, the second one 4 times. So you can tell how disappointed I was in 3…

[@mattlee4618]

i remember beating this game on day 1 and being so upset on how short it was.

[@Sageblu20]

I never got into this game as a kid. I thought it was a knock-off zelda game. However, I'm seeing elements of games I've played before, but this one did it before most of them. The decision aspects to the criminal or glory system. I love it. Recently started playing it on the Series S because I found out it has couch Co-op and honestly I've never played a couch co-op rpg and I'm starting to like it a lot more than a gigantic mmo(not that mmos are bad). I like how we each have separate wallets and inventories. I can't find a map, and a lot of the game isn't self-explanatory. Do you recommend older fable games and do they have co-op like this one?

[@liberalideas8224]

While this game had many flaws, it still was no where my least favorite as it was far better than fable 1 and had it's pros/cons v fable 2. It also was one of the last big game from a dreamer of a dev, Peter Molyneux, who had the lead on the fable series as a whole, not to mention gems like dungeon keeper and other absolute classics. He was widely criticized on release of the game for reaching for the stars far too much. I would suggest that if you have to be criticized for something as a game designer, that's got to be the best possible thing. On release, the game played well and had the best graphics and polish in the entire series (on the xbox 360). However, as stated in the video, those aged horribly, but that is an entirely separate issue. While the game did lose many of the last bits of RPG character creation, it did add a ton of very creative interactive menu design, simulation features, and world building pieces. The previous fable games certainly had some aspects over this game, but this game overall was the most overall polished. The majority of the RPG and story issues Mortismal points out could be fixed by simply putting a in game clock on your progression. This counts for combat, character progression, kingdom progression, even the housing market cheese you could pull off after enough time invested. The only sensible reason that the clock was not put in was because the devs believed many would hate the clock, and for whatever reason, a difficulty option to enable such a feature was also not added. So ya, the devs missed the mark here, but even still, this game pushed the boundaries in enough ways that it likely inspired the game industry in many ways, both for it's successes and failures. For that reason, I still have to give it my respect despite having my own critiques of the game. If the game had aged more gracefully or if you really don't mind the graphics, I would still recommend it to someone today.

[@cjimmortalify]

Fable has always had amazing ideas executed poorly with a very short story. I vividly remember beating 1 & 2 in a single night. Hooked me HARD but left me so unsatisfied and waiting for more 😅

[@EastyyBlogspot]

The fable series was always weird to me, every release was hyped up (mostly by peter lol) and in the end the games were ok, obviously during dev the stuff they wanted to do were reigned in quite a lot and in the end became fun games I do wish they had the time money and resources to really make them the games they could be, I had mentioned before I felt the game Kingdom of Amalur to me felt like a more ambitious Fable game though lacking the humor and britishness of it and its own issues but if they could have combined the best elements of Amalur and Fable i think they would have a winner

[@MrKrabbs2009]

All I remember from Fable 3 is that I loved the desert part. And some quests and demond doors were cool. Other than that it's pretty forgettable. Also, I never really like it when my fantasy gets industrial revolution, removes a bit of that magic and moves it further into steampunk territory, which I don't mind per se but Fable for me was always fantasy first. Even the muskets were a bit too much for me in Fable 2.

[@damianp4451]

One of the few games where I hated the main quest and loved doing the side quest

[@yerba_morte]

I vividly remember how disappointed I was with this compared to the 2nd game. Every one of those Fable sequels felt like "2 steps forward, 1 step back" was the design philosophy

[@Quecojo]

Ah fable 3… even with all the negatives it was still my favorite one. It least my memories of it jajaja

[@mmmhorsesteaks]

I'm reminded a bit of Armello.

[@HalfLifeHalfDead]

20:11 "...and you have to find and shoot them in order to get them back to where they belong" Well that doesn't sound terrifying taken out of context, not one bit.

[@clifcorcoran9917]

Fabulous Trio KZbin Jazz 🎶

[@BelowAverageBeing]

I enjoyed playing fable 3 co-op a lot , i l never played fable 1-2 so i have nothing to go off

[@landotucker]

I might be in the minority but I enjoyed it probably just as much as did the 2nd game, so 2 & 3 would be equal 2nd. I don't think it was that bad. Maybe I just enjoy the atmosphere of fable games.

[@Zero_Zone.]

I never realized that there was no health mechanic in this game. I just thought I was really good at the game. 😅

[@DuggyDarko]

Good ideas done poorly is basically Peter Molyneux's specialty at this point.

[@wcmattman7571]

Imagine if the reboot winds up being an MMO

[@alex-uw4mm]

became a landshark to save the kingdom

[@nymasajista9207]

I got this on day one and felt it was about as good as as 2 when you weigh out the changes. Going from rude gargoyles to cruel gnomes sucked. Fire + lightening magic was OP. The map sucked. I thought Theresa was going to be the main enemy after 2 but they went a different direction. All in all it was ok, but i understood MS shutting down the studio as the asymmetrical game they were working on probably wasn't very fun and had they made Fable 4 it wouldn't have been very good either.

[@spencero3278]

The only part of this game i remember actually affecting me at all was the trip back home with Walter. It was oddly creepy and a little uncomfortable, which is impressive for this game. Other than that... yeah meh.

[@OhQueso10291]

Babe, wake up. Morty is finishing the Fable series

[@sureokk]

I never even tried fable 2 because I was sick of minimaps with objective markers so the glowing follow me line just completely killed any interest I might have had

[@shumookerjee293]

I remember trying to sell "Fable III" back to Gamestop after I'd completed it. They refused to take it because they already had too many used copies in stock. 🤣

[@DewtehDew]

The experience orbs flying around at 8fps hurts my brain.

[@tm103]

this is kinda what I remember about fable 3. Could have been great, instead it's Fable 3

[@VioletElite4]

Didn't care too much for this game, but was surprised that I got the PC port of this to work despite the drm issues with GFWL

[@malaktourrevan5850]

Mort have you ever reviewed the assassin's creed games i know not all of them are rpgs but id love to see you 100% them!

[@kadishevdox]

Am indifferent towards the first…enjoyed the second….loathed the third.

[@onatgz]

free comment. yep.

[@Martick05545]

Blades and Tornado was busted and always dropped my FPS to 5.

[@Motion_God]

I wish I could get a copy on pc

[@illchangelateridk]

I played this game for like 10 minutes and hated everything about it, something felt very off. After the first fight outside in the forest I closed the game, deleted it instantly and never looked back. Then I found Angry Joe review, which I loved so much, I was glad I wasn't crazy.

[@CanCanCanAMan]

Great video! This conclusion could work for all of Peter Molyneux games - great ideas, could be better with execution. We are trying to develop a game improving on Black & White with our game if anyone is interested (Gold Gold Adventure Gold)

[@TheyCallMeNis]

I never played the first two but heard so many ppl who loved them that I played this when it came out. I was left wondering who would play this over literally any other rpg. I completed the game and was left completely underwhelmed .

[@natbvm1880]

How many RPGs give us a place called Sanctuary

[@TheGronkus]

Gronk!

[@focabox5594]

My favourite fable. Great co-op play 😀

[@XiLock_Alotx]

Despite this installment being the weakest(considered by most) I still enjoyed it all those years ago

[@deseanhart8539]

i bought fable 2 as a teen on day 1, and it was the first time i regret spending $ on a game. i felt scammed. that game sucked so bad i never bothered to play this one😂 rip

[@lollipopwaraxe6032]

2nd game needs a pc port

[@ray-outlongtalk]

Tx for an update. I made sure that it won't worth replayn.

[@blutopfer2700]

Nothing beats being the "good" guy and defeating evil by becoming a "landlord"

[@derheadbanger9039]

The story made no sense at all when you decide to be evil.

[@AD3SPG]

Not trying to be a douche but why ? I never played part 2 or 3.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

​@@AD3SPG Part of the motivation for even starting is because your brother is the exact same evil and needs to be stopped. Turning around and doing the exact same thing makes no sense.

[@AD3SPG]

@@Blasted2Oblivion definitely encouraged to make someone play thanks on that information I only played the first one vaguely.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

​@@AD3SPGThe game has issues but I would say it's worth playing. Just remember that he is 100% right about the property thing. You will never hurt for money if you follow that path.

[@sgribbs86]

​@@Blasted2Oblivionbut when I do it its cute.

[@natbvm1880]

Boop

[@seanaugust]

Fable 3 is an 'ok' game, but a pretty bad Fable game. I think I only played it twice to do both good and evil, then never touched it again. While 1 and 2 I've played countless times.

[@hamsters7760]

Fable got less compelling to me with each entry and I barely touched 3 in the end. One of the greatest gaming disappointments of my youth, given how up my alley the empty promises for the series were. Oh well, at least Fable 1 still charming and fun, on its throne of lies PETER.

[@armelior4610]

To be fair, becoming a landlord is an evil choice. Maybe in the remake there will be a management mini-game for that : a bit like Animal crossing but you're Tom Nook

[@gkkk2735]

It's only evil if you try to make your tenants life hell lol