Fabricating a Custom Coolant Tank for my Sellers Drill Grinder

[@paulkinzer7661]

Wow, the armchair critics are certainly out for this video. So many commenters coming to say things that 1. Keith already knows; 2. Keith chose to do in his own -- perfectly fine -- way, rather than theirs; and/or 3. has already been said multiple times. And, worst of all: commenters being both rude and smug, treating Keith with disrespect. What the heck? I'm so grateful to you, Keith, for taking the time and effort -- most of it edited out for our benefit -- to make these videos. I learn from them, but also just enjoy the relaxing process of your unfolding work as things move forward, both as individual videos flow, and also as projects move forward in various project series. I've followed you for years now, and it's fun to see in the background many of the machines you've brought back from near oblivion, and now use to re-make the new things you find. If someone came onto my shop and made comments like some of those here, I'd smile -- on the outside -- as I shooed them out and said 'please go back to your Shop of Perfection and do your own thing.' Inside -- or just maybe out loud -- there's be swear words involved. Sheesh!

[@jamesmoe9188]

You know, I reached out to Mr. Keith after a past video where they were getting entirely too big for their britches, far more (in my opinion) nasty than I've seen before or since. They were being all kinds of mean, ugly, nasty, and hateful, and if I'm honest I was madder than a wet hen on his behalf. He was kind enough to reply, and told me not to fret them too much, his skin is plenty thick enough that it doesn't get to him. I got some return fire ready if I catch one of em being too much though. Something involving the over a quarter million followers that they don't have, over on their channel that doesn't exist.

[@SettledBatches]

Well, as someone who has been making metal chips for far longer than the young man Keith, he occasionally gets some stick from me, but nothing he doesn't deserve. Do you have any specific criticisms, or just general whining?

[@paulkinzer7661]

@@SettledBatches It's comments exactly like this that I'm talking about. Who cares -- here in this comment section on someone else's channel -- how long you've been making chips? Get your own channel and show us how great you are there. And who ever 'deserves' 'some stick'? Especially, again, on their own channel? There's a difference between legitimate criticism and smug rudeness. You've just shown it. And, as I said in my original 'whine', the criticism itself is not especially helpful, either, especially when the same thing is said by a dozen people a dozen times. Over the years, Keith has said things in his videos that make it pretty clear that he's going to keep doing things his way, warts and all, and that he doesn't like or need the sideline critiques. He's also generously sharing his work with with us, taking the time to not just do the work, but recording and narrating and editing the video of the steps along the way, including the warts.

[@SettledBatches]

@@paulkinzer7661 I don't care about your BS.

[@paulkinzer7661]

@@SettledBatches Obviously.

[@RattiDave]

The "I need the TIG practice" sure worked out well. That tank will do the job just fine. Laser cut a couple gaskets, tap the 4 top holes, mount the tank, drop in the pump, bolt it down, re-plumb and re-wire, and you're good to go. Don't let anyone criticize that tank - Your TIG welding looks perfect for the intended purpose.

[@tommyhartman]

I love the differnce between pretend machinist and welders that always get everything perfect and never think I should done it another way. Thanks for keeping it real and leaving it the tiny mistakes so we can learn what matters and what it plenty good enough.

[@richmccabe2902]

Welds look decent for welding non TIG gaps and not grinding the metal shiny before welding. As far as pump mounting just run bolts from inside out and tacking them on top with TIG.

[@kitmaira]

That’s a good idea. I was thinking that he should have drilled the smaller and threaded the holes. More than one way to get the job done.

[@plainnpretty]

Cut the top off weld nuts to the inside and weld it back on didn’t he say he wanted some welding practice?

[@RobertBrown-lf8yq]

@@plainnpretty Agree. I thought that at the time. Easy peasy. Robert PS Pretty good TIG for a ‘DIYer’ 👍

[@robertharker]

Nice to see a back to basics shop skills video. Layout, center punching, and hand drilling are basic shop skills. Especially your tip about easing up the pressure when you feel the drill starting to break through. For the drilling segment, the only special tool you used is the optical punch. Otherwise drills, a drill press and a transfer punch are basic tools you would find in a beginner's shop. Thanks!

[@jimc4731]

It would behoove you to have the coolant returning to the tank to flow into a smaller tank in the reservoir to catch most of the grinding mud 🎉 JIM ❤

[@alstonofalltrades3142]

Only one way DIY'er and the pro's get good at welding. keep at it. Them welds are more than good enough. I volunteered with a Scottish guy restoring an old Morris Miner car. He had never welded, and had the cheapest gasless mig welder he could possibly get. He still got the job done. his words "A grinder is a wonderful thing". Some of his welds took 2 to 3 cycles of weld and grind. An "optical centre punch" a new one on me 🙂

[@tpobrienjr]

Thanks for the quick demo of optical center punch.

[@ccswede]

Used one for years on woodworking while making furniture. Not just for metal

[@haroldphipps3457]

First time seeing one, and now I need (want) one!

[@dannyvanstraelen3273]

Keith, just an idea, put some metal wire mesh in front of rectangular hole, it will prevent big chunks getting to the pump.

[@RoweSandberg]

There may not be much in the way of chips since it's a grinder.

[@dannyvanstraelen3273]

@@RoweSandberg fine grid can often be meaner than raw grit, of course a good magnet at the bottom of the big tank, isn't that big rouble to instal and easy to clean…

[@millwrightrick1]

The large tank should have a baffle in front of the hole already.

[@ronwilken5219]

Kieth did mention that the bottom of the original tank is a couple of inches below the inlet to the original pump and, therefore, also the inlet to his tank and pump. All the "heavy" material should fall to the bottom before the liquid gets to the new tank and pump. During the rebuild, maybe a large drain bung in the bottom of the original tank would facilitate future cleaning. Just a thought.🤞🇨🇦🍌🥋🇺🇦🕊🇺🇲👍

[@paulputnam2305]

That’s one heavy duty bullet proof tank Professor. Nice job!

[@bobtorrence3461]

Tanks for sharing! Tapping top holes would have been good but you could use self clinching nuts on backside of the plate as a solution

[@TheTacktishion]

UH-OH.... The holes in the top of the box should have taped.... This is going to get creative.... Thanks for keeping it real....

[@johnks6733]

Had the same thought

[@josaonline09]

Practice makes perfect

[@charleswelch249]

You made it look amazing, and it will work just fine for your application. Great job, Keith.

[@larrywalker7759]

Years ago I saw a humorous list called "The Ten Commandments of Welding". Below is one from that list (if my memory serves me.) "Thou shalt place thy work in jigs, or other holding fixtures, for the eye is a poor instrument for the measurement of angles and great will be the wrath of thy supervisor as thou art doing thy task a second time."

[@peterfalconer-h3k]

Wise words indeed and l'd add thou shalt always clamp work pieces whilst drilling thus preventing injuries to thine hands and fingers.

[@phildegruy9295]

Box looks good and the welds are good too! You could counter sink the top 4 holes a bit more, stick 4 bolts through the holes from inside and tack them onto the top. The extra counter sink depth would allow the tacks to be flush or lower than the top plates surface and the pump would slip right over the 4 "studs". Don't ask how I know...😀

[@walterplummer3808]

Good morning Keith! The grinder does deserve some love. Thanks for the videos.

[@richardbrobeck2384]

Keith beautiful job building the tank !!

[@Ervan-l9v]

Looks like many others already covered the comment I was going to offer. Looking forward to the clean and paint.

[@oleran4569]

Great layout for catching the sludge. Studs might make that pump easier to R&R.

[@CHICOB4261]

Great video Keith. Can’t wait for the upcoming restoration!

[@frankdoner8402]

Fine job Keith 👏

[@larryblount3358]

Bolts up from the bottom of the top plate tacked in. Then pump on top with nuts to hold it down. Nice improvement to a lovely vintage machine.

[@kevinkohler5140]

Love your willingness to fab when it makes sense!😊

[@miken3260]

On drilling without a hold down, years ago I learned that you can drop an old screwdriver into one of the table slots to act as a stop.

[@melshea2519]

Happy Monday Keith! Cool video!

[@stefanpariyski3709]

Looks good, both the welding and the finished product!

[@LifeBy10000Cuts]

Drain plug? Thanks for the vid.

[@Histandard2011]

Your normal process would have draw up a sketch and had you drill the top pump mounting holes with a #7 drill bit, tap to 1/4 x 20 but that is in the past so you might drill out holes to be able to use 1/4 x 20 thread inserts. You had one suggestion to use rivet nuts but the heads would stick up to high for the pump to lie flat. I have watched you for years so I know you will "Get Her Done"

[@stumccabe]

Thanks Keith - nice little mini project.

[@RicktheRecorder]

I find the Veritas Optical Punch a useful and accurate piece of kit. Please could you show some of your TIG welding at natural speed, so we can see your progress rate.

[@garybrenner6236]

The only thing that's worse than this clown's machining is his "welding"! If you want to watch a welder, go to Cutting Edge Engineering!

[@Rack979]

5:28 1⅞" is 15/8". Half is 15/16"!

[@ellieprice363]

We say 15/16 while thinking .9375. It’s easier to say the fraction instead of the longer decimal.

[@diederik998]

That's what my metric brain came up with as well... thanks for the confirmation 😉

[@markchodroff250]

Great job ! Full time job keeping the machines looking good and work great !

[@cpbethlehem6548]

Nice job. I would have tapped the holes for mounting the pump to the tank.

[@ratdude747]

Or welded nuts/bolts into the flange before welding the tank together. If using bolts as studs, that'd be better for ease of removal in the future (put all threaded joints out of the tank). The side connection will be fun since there is no good way to fasten it without having submerged fasteners (short of building an extension box/pipe with externally flanged joints)

[@c.a.mcneil7599]

That’s great ,good job, ata boy please return your hall monitor badge.

[@stevenclaeys6252]

Thank you for another Great video. Cheers

[@richardsurber8226]

thanks for the nice fabrication and explanation video

[@daviddial7010]

nice tank. I thought you might weld the inside of the fill hole to prevent fluid seeping between the layers. I was a little nervous when you reached under the drill to brush out the shavings.

[@TheDippoo]

a quick threading option which may or may not work for this is "Rivnuts" if threading it is not an option

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing. Very nice.👍

[@MrChevelle83]

just a good ol getter done fab job. thats pretty much how i work. never perfect but plenty good for the task at hand. in fact ive not done a good project in a long time.

[@robhawthorne6892]

Put bolts for the pump up from the inside and weld them in to make “studs” to mount the pump.. nice fab job!

[@WillyBemis]

Thank you Keith!

[@hansenprecision9390]

Nice little project !

[@bchrisl1491]

I see your crosshair marking device. Big Smile! Nice welds. You might try some press in studs on the top and pull them in with a thrust bearing like wheel lugs. or many just thread the holes and be done with it.

[@robertlevine2152]

Keith, For someone who doesn't weld you do an excellent job. Bob

[@SettledBatches]

9:35 - Calls out for some method of clamping or the availability of a nearby ER.

[@danhoag373]

I watched with awe how you did this!! As far as mounting the pump to the tank, pick up some helicoil repair threads insert in the to big holes and wala instant threads from outside . Dont forget gasket between pump and tank lol god job as always 73 dan in kcmo

[@glencrandall7051]

Nice piece of work Keith.🙂🙂

[@tonyburrell2052]

Just a little tip, If you have the option always weld left to right or right to left. you will be able to see what’s happing with the weld pool given you more control. Still a good job done well.

[@kennethstaszak9990]

My guess is that he wanted the camera to be able see the welds.

[@richardtaylor7199]

Great job.

[@johncloar1692]

Thanks Keith for the video. Nice job on the tank. can't wait for the rebuild.

[@garybrenner6236]

I wonder when the rebuild on the Stoker Engine will restart . The locomotive is due for trial runs in 2025, and to be in service at the end of 2025.

[@haroldphipps3457]

​@@garybrenner6236with any luck, everyone that mentions Stoker, will send Kieth $5.00 every time they type that. Give it up.

[@markchodroff250]

Very good job welding !

[@kenny5174]

Great weld job! I need to be using my tig also. I think you'd like RIVNUTS on the the top. They work great with gaskets.

[@Mishn0]

Or studs.

[@haroldphipps3457]

I disagree with Riv nuts working great. They work OK,,,, once.

[@davecross5317]

nice job

[@WeberSarge]

Don't sweat the welds for a beginner - that said, a couple of pointers... #1 rule - tig is a precision process, and mill scale, corrosion, and oils are your enemy. The better the prep, the better the result. Mill scale within even a 1/4" will migrate from the heat and contaminate the weld. The popping sounds are a good sign it isn't cleaned off well enough. Taking mill scale off on both sides of the material will prevent it from being pulled into the weld from the back side. On parts that you can't clean the back - use less weld power to prevent melting through. Mill scale and contamination will destroy those glass lenses in a real hurry as well. Just a tip, keep practicing and you'll be able to enjoy a skill that is hard to beat.

[@combatmedic1980]

Keith , my suggeston would be to put a strong rare earth magnet on the out side of the bottom of the tank to gather the filings in one spot.

[@Tammy-un3ql]

excellent job.

[@tomjewett5839]

Another fine job. I was wondering if you were going to tap that top while you were drilling it out. You may need to weld them back up and do it again for the tap size. Or just drill out the pump flange

[@thefirstcalled]

Thank you!!!

[@johnwenzel9252]

A grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain’t. Thanks Keith!

[@darrellshuman7751]

Let us know how you solved the pump bolt down. Great video as usual.

[@timf6916]

Nice looking 👀

[@SciPunk215]

Could you weld some bolts from underneath and use nuts on top to attach the pump?

[@theoriginalbubba1036]

it takes grande cojones to weld on KZbin!

[@noisybarinavalon]

Riv nuts may be a good option to mount the pump

[@haroldphipps3457]

They are an option. Good is very debatable.

[@RicksterX-92fs]

Kieth, just know that you should keep doing things your way! Just because some careless klutz can’t handle machining makes his criticism useless.

[@seldendaniel8819]

Someday I will learn to tig. Until then, I'd hire you.

[@m9ovich785]

UHH OOH... Have You tried the "texas Tig" for Gap filling LOL...

[@peterdolamore7808]

Really enjoy your channel Keith! Love the extra content you are now posting. Ontario, Canada.

[@tomswindler64]

Nice work,👍👍👍😎😎😎

[@jimfiles3307]

Good morning Keith, Like most of us, it appears that you were in a hurry to weld up the tank. As others mentioned you didn’t fully think about mounting the pump. I would recommend taking the tank to the bandsaw and cut the top off, weld nuts to the inside, then weld studs to the nuts. Trim and weld the plate back on. This way you will not have to worry about corrosion preventing you from replacing the pump.

[@RicktheRecorder]

@@jimfiles3307 i think I'd just drill the holes to the next tapping size, tap, and then drill clearance in the pump.

[@mikewatson4644]

@@RicktheRecorder I agree. When he was drilling the holes, I wondered why he didn't thread the holes in the top plate for the 1/4" bolts. Going to the next larger size would be the next easiest solution. The pump will last for many years, no point in over complicating the assembly.

[@RicktheRecorder]

@@mikewatson4644 Alternatively, countersink the holes and weld in studs from above.

[@mikewatson4644]

@@RicktheRecorder That would be a good option also. Could have threaded the plate, put in studs and welded from below. Multiple ways that it could have been done.

[@garybrenner6236]

The only thing that's worse than this clown's machining is his "welding"! If you want to watch a welder, go to Cutting Edge Engineering!

[@Mudgrove]

Hi Keith, Would you laser make a gasket for each of those new openings? Or doesn't the pump need one...? Cool additional sump !

[@jtg2737]

Alright, alright some "Cutting Edge Engineering Australia" type content. That's a nice looking tank!

[@garybrenner6236]

If you think this clown compares in any way with C. E. E. you are out of your mind!

[@judybixby4139]

don't know if anybody mentioned it. think about drilling out the holes and weld 1/4 in nuts in the top

[@Sigmatechnica]

I always wondered weather if you made the coolant tank out of pure silver sheet the coolant would never go rancid.

[@CothranMike]

Well, after the silver gets passivated by organic acids it might not work as well. A good cleaning finished with dilute nitric and many rinses will allow the silver to work again, for a while. Controlling the pH of the coolant is key, passing O2 through the solution kills the oxygen haters (anaerobic bacteria) so use an aquarium air pump for those germs, and all this keeps some of the bad germs at bay. The silver will ionize in the presence of both acids and bases so the active ions will kill most germs. The trick here is to not allow the passivated silver to happen. Research passivation for more on that.

[@jwaterous224]

Can you tack some nuts inside the box with a spot welder? Don’t know if you have access to one of those. Maybe put a nut on a metal rod the right length to hold it while you tack it in using a thin piece of welding rod.

[@hondaben78]

I was wondering why ya didn't weld in studs, or nuts for the top mount pump. It'll be interesting to see if it holds liquid once all installed, the Mig is notorious for leaving holes that leak. Good job 👍

[@krockpotbroccoli65]

That's a Tig torch, bro.

[@CothranMike]

And that might be the reason he is using aTIG torch here.

[@johnvanantwerp2791]

Does the tank leak? No? Then it's a great weld! :)

[@kevinwayne7546]

cool

[@cemx86]

What are the advantages for Keith to use TIG instead of MIG welding? Wire welding seems a lot quicker and easier than using a separate filler rod. Fumes?

[@PeregrineBF]

TIG can weld more materials more easily (especially aluminum). TIG produces less spatter. TIG tends to be more controllable for small welds & thin material.

[@cemx86]

@@PeregrineBF At 16:38 - I did notice later in the video that Keith said he was using TIG for the practice and that MIG would be faster and just as good.

[@darenscott1718]

One advantage for using TIG on a tank like this is that it is easier to have a continuous leak free weld, than it would have been for MIG. Starts and stops with MIG are notorious for having lack of fusion thus leaving tiny pin holes for liquid to escape. With TIG you can start up at a stop and watch everything melt together first, then add a dab and continue on.

[@garybrenner6236]

The only thing that's worse than this clown's machining is his "welding"! If you want to watch a welder, go to Cutting Edge Engineering!

[@RambozoClown]

I'm surprised you didn't tap the holes for the pump or tack nuts to the back.

[@MrArtVendelay]

Wait, I see the painted cane crusher in the background. I will have to check if I missed a vid.

[@CothranMike]

Yes, you did!

[@adeeponionbrah]

Nice Job! Talk about your welder.

[@garybrenner6236]

The only thing that's worse than this clown's machining is his "welding"! If you want to watch a welder, go to Cutting Edge Engineering!

[@TgWags69]

In lieu of a vice on the drill press, you can drop a phillips screwdriver down through a hole in the part to keep it from spinning if it happens to catch. I've had some close calls so I'm not goong to poo poo the safety pplice on this one, but still generally just hold my parts since I dont have a drill press vice.

[@anthonycollin8303]

You are short changing yourself saying you are not a TIG welder, if I had something I needed TIG welding I would be happy if it came back looking like that. Is the top plate thick enough to take a thread for mounting the body of the pump?

[@benhancock1408]

Maybe you should have tapped the holes for the pump? Or welded nuts to the underside of the top?

[@bobbyhamby4708]

Are you going to put a drain plug in bottom of the tank?

[@singerap]

Looks better than the snarled dog crap my tig welds turn into. Never mind having to go to the grinder several times to re-point the tip.

[@PatriciaSawyer-ot4us]

Hi Keith. Couldn't help but flinch when you started drilling holes in the flat plat plate, with no clamping. Guaranteed way to lose your fingers if the drill snags. Glad you changed to the vice. Nice One!

[@reinholdhummler2459]

🙌

[@robertwilliamson8072]

Might as well use bidy panel connectors on that top

[@propulsar]

Looking forward to getting that grinder refurbished.

[@oldschool1993]

Come on Keith, how long have you been using a drill press. You can drop a screw driver down into one of the holes of the table to prevent the part becoming a veg-o-matic when the drill catches. Hold it with a vise grip, not your fingers. A little edit at 8:57 and switch to the vise probably because the part did catch and take off spinning or broke the drill. Also hope you made an index mark for the orientation of the pump on that top plate in case your hole pattern is not spot on. Design changes- 1- Top plate should have been tapped for mounting bolts 2. Side hole should have been tapped also for 4 studs to pass through the existing tank holes so you could easily reach in to tighten the nuts. 3. Tank should have been made a couple inches deeper with a drain plug, because over time some grinding material will accumulate and build up until it is being picked up by the pump.

[@johnalexander2349]

Also, laser cutters here always offer bending too. Those could've been two tabbed, interlocking "C" pieces, rather than six separate sides. These days I even add a tiny overlap to one side to negate the need for filler rod. CAD designed, CNC cut and bent fabrications really are a modern marvel, if you fully exploit the technology.

[@ccswede]

What’s the name of your KZbin channel?

[@oldschool1993]

@@ccswede I went to a movie once and thought it was total crap, and some moron said " Oh yeah, what's the name of your movie studio?"

[@mr.b2232]

👍😎

[@philliphommel9790]

Bit disappointed he did not use his the steam powered 1847 25 ton drillpress but just a regular one like the rest of us ;)

[@WreckDiver99]

Nice work Keith. That grinder is going to look spiffy soon!

[@filepz629]

❤️‍🔥

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice job on the tank, maybe install a weir in the large tank to help clean the coolant. Thanks for sharing. Fine job welding.

[@donaldrhyne9417]

Drilling I almost lost my right index finger and thumb by being in a rush and holding down a piece of steel. Dangerous practice

[@Cinder2008]

Yep, at least hold the piece with pliers.

[@PeregrineBF]

@@Cinder2008 Or build/buy a float-lock vise. Quinn Dunki did a whole mini series making one.

[@plainnpretty]

I have clamps and I’m not afraid to use them

[@boelensds]

x times it goes good only needs to go bad 1 time to remind you it was not a smart move.

[@julieorr9975]

I think you did a great job welding

[@frankerceg4349]

Thank you Keith!