Fabricating some large angle plates for the HBM

[@DudleyToolwright]

Those are amazing angle plates. Beast mode enabled...

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks and they are.

[@DudleyToolwright]

No joke on the metal prices. They are between double and triple, ever since the pandemic, with no sign of going down. Nice work, Tom.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

My metals rep contacts me quite often seeing if I need anything. I guess it is slow for them and they are not moving alot of material because of the prices.

[@StuartsShed]

Most excellent! Those will be some mighty angle plates.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Stuart. I hope so. 👍

[@DJako89]

Great video Tom, thanks for sharing. The cost of metal is unbelievable now.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Dave. It is and some projects I would like to do have been put off just because of the high prices.

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

good video my friend Tom,,thanks for your time

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks for watching Michel. 🙏

[@wallbawden5511]

Nice job there Tom once you get them up on the Mill and square them up I'm sure they will last a lifetime thanks for sharing Cheers

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

I hope so. Don't want to have to make another set. 😀

[@jimpritz4169]

They look nice and heavy duty Tom. I'm sure they are going to help you keep the town running. The overview at the end of your shop and land looks like God's country. Lots of work in this project but you'll be glad you have them. Thanks for the video.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Jim. We have a nice piece of property. Sitting on 9 acres.

[@MattysWorkshop]

Gday Tom, the cost of material here has gone out of control, the angle plates are looking good so far, keen to see the HBM next week, great episode mate, cheers

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Matty. I imagine prices are stupid down your way also.

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

I appreciate it Craig.

[@Rustinox]

I think you're right. They are "large" angle plates :) And i's nice to see you use the shaper. That was a long time ago.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Yep. I just weighed one and it is at 140 pounds. True it has been awhile since the shaper got to make some chips.

[@nobbysworkshop]

Really enjoyed this video Tom. Those are amazing angle plates. Great to see your shaper in action. I agree with everyone that metal prices are incredibly high. I have no local supplier, so have to order on line. Looking forward to the next installment. ATB Tom. Cheers Nobby

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Nobby I appreciate that. It was good to use the shaper. It had been a long time since I had a project for it. Of course moving that 250 pound vise is no fun.

[@bcbloc02]

Pretty sure just sitting them in my shop would stress relieve them. It’s HOT! 😂

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Same here. It went from nice 70 degree days straight to the 80's over night.

[@bcbloc02]

@@hilltopmachineworks2131 it was 98f with 98% humidity Monday. It was rough. Glad to see you making good progress though. 😎

[@MrFactotum]

some heavy duty work there Tom 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 atb Kev

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Kev. Nothing light when it comes to HBM tooling. 😀

[@DoMetalStuff]

Tom nice work. 👍🏻Nice to see your shaper in action again. and also that the horizontal milling machine works well.😉

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thank you Dominic. I figured you would like some good shaper footage.

[@DoMetalStuff]

@@hilltopmachineworks2131 It's always nice to see a shaper working. I think it's a shame that mine doesn't have a rotating table. maybe I'll come up with something for that😉

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

@@DoMetalStuff Can you find one that has a rotating table?

[@DoMetalStuff]

@@hilltopmachineworks2131 not from this machine brand. I believe. I already have an idea in my head. but first I'm going to implement other plans, guideway hand scraping. that's my plan. although I don't fully understand it yet😅

[@RalfyCustoms]

Howdy Tom, 5.00 am, fresh hot coffee and a fresh video from Hill Top, happy days I hear you on the steel prices, I just ordered some tube in, and the price has almost doubled in recent years 😮 Have a great one mate and best wishes to you and yours

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Awesome. Coffee always tastes better with a Hill Top video. 😀

[@kooldoozer]

When welding something thick like that, it is helpful to tack weld on some start and stop plates on either end of the fillet. That way you start cold on the start plate, and build some heat before you get welding on the actual work piece. Then the stop plate is just a nice area to break off the arc. Then of coarse, cut them off when you are done. This leaves a clean job with good start heat and no stop buggers. ----Doozer

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks for the tip Doozer. 👍

[@eyuptony]

Excellent mix of content Tom. Great build so far. Your welding rods worked well. I've just bought some new cheap ones. I hope the pidgeons aren't flying over lol. Cheers Tony

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Tony. I was pleased with the rods. First time using this brand. They seem to burn in pretty well.

[@zoltannagy1813]

Hi Tom. The project is coming along nicely. I couldn't believe how much the plate moved when welding it, despite using the Fireball square blocks.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks. Yeah talk about weld pull.

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

Nice one Tom, like all the mounting holes, lots of work but will mount lots of workpieces. First AP turned out great! No need to stress relieve...save the forest lol!

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Al. Glad I passed your welding class. 😀

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

@@hilltopmachineworks2131 💯👍

[@trevorjones4463]

Good job mate

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Trevor and good to hear from you.

[@RustyInventions-wz6ir]

Very nice work sir

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thank you.

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Thanks for sharing enjoyed

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks for watching. 🙏

[@edsmetalworks8426]

Steel and Big Mac’s have gone out of sight for sure. Just the cost of doing business and eating I guess. Nice shop!

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

I know. It really hurts sometimes. Thanks for watching!

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

Hi Tom, those steel prices are nuts. Luckily I haven’t had to buy any quantities of new stuff since the pandemic. Before that the used and drops at our local yard was 68 cents a pound. I probably don’t want to know the current price. Good to see the cobwebs off the shaper 😊 Nice project, ATB…..

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Hey Dean. Prices for materials are at an all time high it seems with no foreseen chance of them coming down. It was fun to use the shaper, but removing the vise is a choir.

[@advil000]

It's kind of insane. At certain thickness around the .5" to 1.5" range there's just not all that much difference in price between steel, aluminum, stainless and titanium (depending on whether you need certs of course). And that's just completely insane. Shipping is frequently a bigger concern than the terrible material price.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Yep. Unfortunately I have to buy new because there is no scrap yard near me where I could pick up used plate for pennies on the dollar.

[@AaronEngineering]

G'day Tom. Sorry I'm late to the party on this video. Trying to catch up on all the videos now. Yes, steel and material prices have really blown out in the last couple of years. They certainly are "Beefy" angle plates mate. Max Grant through his in a large fired to stress relieve his anlge plates, but it's summer there now and I wouldn't light any fires.. Looking forward to the horizontal boring work. Cheers, Aaron. PS: now you've got me hungry mentioning frying eggs LOL

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks for watching. You want some bacon too? 😀

[@AaronEngineering]

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[@AaronEngineering]

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[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

@@AaronEngineering 🤣🤣

[@outsidescrewball]

Enjoyed

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks for watching Chuck.

[@TedRoza]

G'day Tom. Steel & Alloy are getting expensive over here as well, & getting off cuts are a bit up there as well. Amazing how many holes that Anular cutter is able to do. With all the heavy welding to be done on the plates, you would expect a but of warpage to occur, irrespective of how many clamps you have. At least you have the Industrial Shaper & Facing machines to bring the units to Your Specifications. Good video, well done. Just wonder if something like a 3D printer type location grid could be made & used with a Mag Drill to cover large plates with MANY Holes. 😢😊😊😊 Ted

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Ted. I knew the plates would move once welded up. I was just hoping it would be as little as possible. The import annular cutter did surprisingly well. I need to buy a mag drill for the shop at some point.

[@terryberggren9124]

universal tables are nice . I wish i had one on my 24" shaper . Have you figured out all the levers on the HBM ?

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

I have figured out the levers. It is just the sequence that I have to get comfortable with.

[@SgtCude59]

Great video. Hope it doesn't move on you a lot.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Ed. I hope it does not move too much either.

[@MyLilMule]

I see a nice radial arm drill in your future, maybe. ;) Dumb question, maybe - why not mill the bottom plates first, weld everything up, mount them to the HBM and drill the 3/4" holes with it?

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

A RAD would be nice. They just don't come up for sale around here. I figured it would be much faster on the mill using the DRO. Not to mention sure is cheaper running the 10HP rotary phase converter for the mill versus the 30HP one for the HBM.

[@juancarlosfochesatto4741]

Excelente tarea saludos,,, ,,

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks.

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

Boy howdy on steel prices. Just curious Tom, what type of cutting oil were you using?

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

I know right? They dictate whether some projects get done and some that don't. I was using inexpensive motor oil in light weight grade. I think it is 0-20.

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

@@hilltopmachineworks2131 Thanks!

[@TangentJim]

Tom - I'm going to play the Monday morning Quarter Back. In my neck of the woods , the options are multiple . We have a number of steel scrap yards in the area . In the past I have purchased Machine Tools that the local factories have scrapped . I mean good stuff - not junk. With a little Luck you could trip over Angle Plates . Take a look around - you could get Luckey -- Jim

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Man Jim don't tease me. 😂

[@joefalmo5528]

Just a little FYI for you. If you have a steel outfit that has a high definition plasma, they can do a hell of a job on those slots. I’ve never had them do holes as small as yours, but I have had them do 1 inch holes in 1 inch plate with really good results, good enough that I didn’t feel like I needed to run a cutter down through , they told me they could do them within about a .010 accuracy and after seeing them ,I was surprised as to how good the cuts really were, if I didn’t know better, I would’ve thought they did them with a laser

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Thanks Joe. I have just found a local guy finally. I think he can do some trick stuff. I will know on the next needed project.

[@procyonia3654]

Nice work, you could try a homebrew vibratory stress relief on them. Clamp a 3/4 or 1hp electric motor to them and let it run for afew hours. Not as effective as a proper vibe unit, but better than nothing

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Interesting. Thanks for the tip.

[@procyonia3654]

@@hilltopmachineworks2131 I worked for a HBM and VTL builder, and that was the only stress relief method we used on our castings and weldments. The proper units clamp down and pulse low and high frequency sound through the work. But you can in a small shop approximate some of that frequency/vibration with an electric motor with a slightly offbalance coupling held on the shaft. Since it's pretty low effort/cost on your part, it certainly couldn't hurt to try. Can't wait to see them machined on the hor borer.

[@jamesadams893]

You talk too much , dropped in to see the work not talk