Face Off: Subaru WRX STi vs Ford Focus RS

[@Kojima93]

Bought an RS and was in love, my buddy let me drive his STI. I regretted buying the RS. It's a great car but I had to sell it and buy the STI. No Regrets. Both are great, it's all up what you like.

[@malachiashley528]

I got a Subaru because I wanted the hydraulic steering.

[@bradygirvan8738]

My dad is trying to decide which one to get. I vote for the Focus!

[@mountainhobo]

In addition to everything Sam said, STi with that spoiler has a serious image problem, at least in my area (Central California). Droopy, shiny gym pants down below butt, white t-shirt, and a baseball cap backward just barely begin to describe it.

[@davidmorris6961]

Never had torque steer in my STI or the WRX we used to own.....?

[@NeilanPhotoGraphics]

when they first came out 10 years later um the 20 year anniversary of the wrx was in 2015

[@Jimmy-pl9kv]

I tested the golf R. It was very nice but boring, no sunroof. The subaru wanted a down payment for a test drive. The evolution was fast but plain inside. The RS gave me the more smiles per gallon. I bought the RS so far so good, almost 500 miles on it. I love the car.

[@mikufocusrs9446]

The nearby VW dealer would not allow the Golf R test drive, neither the Focus RS at many Ford dealers. I had to choose based on how the GTI and ST drove. I actually preferred the looks (trim details inside and out) of the GTI over the R. The ST's were fantastic and the seats more sporty. I figured I wanted to learn to 'tame the beast' so I chose the RS.

[@MistrMcGill]

I definitely see the difference in refinement, very good review and very honest. I'm not telling you the winner so watch...

[@Zander13Productions]

I had a 17 STI and traded for my RS. I love my RS

[@motomonster525]

Im sorry about your new resale value.

[@UltimaRSfan]

T Crash and the cracked engine block that will happen in about 20,000 miles.

[@mattb3910]

Without the STI's huge wing now, did you have to go buy a picnic table?

[@JWhite-rx5il]

Ford made a solid effort and made a great car. But- I've driven the RS and it doesn't seem to have the character and overall feel of my STI.

[@kaddenschott7318]

JeremyKerrianne W yeah sti is better the rs is shity made i drove one and love my sti way better

[@sup2069]

Wing or Spoiler? What do you call it?

[@adidutta2317]

Great review. But I though John Petrucci was full time with Dream Theater.

[@Convisis]

Aditya Dutta I think you mean Jordan Rudess.

[@bernknezevic7736]

Pull me under

[@randolphpaul5899]

Wow this is a first to hear Sam give kudos to a Ford. Is he feel okay, no high fever.

[@Nards_1997]

subaru is just waaay more reliable lol

[@djwarren5081]

Just traded in my Mustang GT for an RS. I love it.

[@kaddenschott7318]

DJ WARREN waste of money rs is poorly made

[@60viking]

I would take both the mustang and the RS. But I live in Michigan and really want AWD . Note I totaled my GT mustang last year in the snow.

[@fragu123]

Another brilliant review from you. Great👏👏👏

[@DustinB855]

Rs might be better but everyone still buys the sti because you can get one for 35k vs the rs good luck finding one under 45k

[@Zander13Productions]

bought my rs for 36 so......

[@xesvuli420]

Zander13's Garage no you didnt so.....

[@SGTOldSchool96]

42k is what they are listed here in Colorado, and they aren't budging an inch on them.

[@xesvuli420]

matt34003434 same here. unless you want last years models that are sitting onsite. You can get a 2016 for less. People talk about what you can get the car for but dont mention that.

[@DustinB855]

matt34003434 least they went down last year my friends ford dealer wouldn't go lower than 45k

[@elliottmanning4116]

Not only are the cars almost the same color, he's wearing the exact same outfit in both reviews. 😂😂

[@TestDrivenTV]

Hollywood TV tricks :p

[@StiManny]

Elliott Manning because he didn’t want to give any of he cars extra weight/hp advantage!!

[@carstuff4260]

The RS drive train isnt bulletproof though. The STI's tranmission and diff's can take the abuse. The RS is already having engine and rear diff issues. How many launches do you think you can get out of that RS until something breaks? I like the looks of the RS more but they really need to beef up the drive train.

[@hewlettpackard4301]

I am a Subaru fan but STI needed an upgrades to compete.. It is getting heavier but horse power and torque hasn't change much for a long time. As of now, It needed the 350 HP like the RS power and flat curve torque, increase fender width to accommodate wider tire by 1 to 2 inches and better tall gearing so shift isn't as frequent. Change hood scoop to gills and rear spoiler to look like the SVX but functional.

[@60viking]

I'm American and totally support American industry. I talked like this when I worked at Chrysler engineering when it was American. Let that soak in.

[@packmack78]

what's the year models on these..

[@Mohammadkwt]

Yoshi G this year

[@TestDrivenTV]

2016 and 2017 - identical

[@kurmazz12]

I have the 17 sti. When the rs came out all the dealers were selling them way over msrp. Sure it’s a better car but at the time I got the sti for waaaaaay less. Subaru needs to step it up tho.

[@Doogerauoy]

I like the styling on the STI better. But its a sedan and not a hatchback. So that leads me to the Type R, but it's not AWD. So where did I go from there? The Golf R.

[@victornishimoto6029]

why do they give it a BAD reviews?

[@motomonster525]

blah blah blah, people stop complaining about a 10 year old motor. The LS motor is way older. Yet people do not complain about it.

[@gleekthageek]

T Crash actually do but it's for the best reason in the world. It's because they keep ending up in cars they aren't meant to be in like mustangs, 240s, 350z, miatas. There has even been r35 gtrs Ls swapped and we will prolly see a ford gt and a raptor swapped to. It's the best reason to complain about it jealousy.

[@CMH_1975]

T Crash there are different variations of the LS engine with all having different power levels and actually gets good gas mileage. The 2.5 is dated and if say it's not you're just a delusional fan boy.

[@motomonster525]

chibbs1975 nope not a fan boy and it's not really dated. the only thing that changed in internal combustion engines is really direct injection. gas mileage is not that bad.

[@CMH_1975]

T Crash to go 14 years or longer without a update to the engine is silly. the 2.5 isn't that good of a engine to last that long. it's outdated and definitely not making the power it should be.

[@motomonster525]

chibbs1975 the sti motors are just fine. ya i could ask for motr power. the 2.5 give you room for that. the rs 2.3 does allow much wiggle room. the rs can make power but not reliably. im not here for a pissing match. to many people say the 2.5 is outdated. its really not. it does need more power but a whole motor rework is not needed for it. personally i do not want a DI engine. to many problems. costly to fix. and costly to upgrade.

[@60viking]

At least your Mom can take a WRX shopping.

[@Karnage543]

I already knew which one would win before clicking. The STI is over a decade old already. They need to update that car asap. Sad, I loved the old Subaru. New ones however are very blah, boring and nothing special about them.

[@ponygt6629]

The new one toolooks even mor BBOORRIINNGG

[@trebors386]

Subaru needs to knock off atleast 10k of the price until the all new STI comes out, stupid to pay that much for 10 year old car Then it will be a bargain winner

[@ponygt6629]

Subaru is best said DEAD The Outback is the only reason they stay in market, and becauseo f Japan and some small Asian countries

[@kenkozawa9810]

lol trolls...+Ponygt 662 get your facts straight, don't be a boring Ford-only fanboy. Subie's lineup does quite well in NA..the Focus RS is great but come on, the difference isn't night and day and not to mention it is a completely new generation whereas the WRX is still on an older platform, the only really new update is just spinning the WRX off the Impreza and giving it the turbo'd FRS/BRZ engine.. Considering a brand new generation Impreza just came out give it 1 or 2 more years and we'll see the new WRX/STi..car makers are run by people without KZbin degrees, they purposely stagger new generations launches so that it beats the current older competition and the cycle continues..

[@Karnage543]

Ken, who's a troll exactly? Because I own a Subaru.

[@ragalyisp]

when my 2010 wrx has had enough ill go to an sti. unless the rumors are true that they are going hybrid in 2020.

[@MrStlover99]

hybrid sti will be a beast

[@ragalyisp]

Shawn Moses idk though how i feel about that. hybrid means added weight, added electrical control etc. i drive a wrx because i like the feel of a raw unrefined car. if i wanted that, id buy a bmw

[@MrStlover99]

ragalyisp torque will be insane and look at the p1 and 918

[@damienclark1676]

fav car vs other fav car

[@rdd6366]

i like the reviewer more than either cars! hahahaha

[@southpaw9944]

I'll take the STI. Go take one for a test drive and see what you think. Why not test these cars on a dirt road and see what the results are.

[@changaboy123]

Hater will hate the Sti motor is already proven!! Try to get 500whp out of a focus lol go ahead look why fix what's not broken!

[@ashcosmo3854]

proven ? hahahaha it's proven to blow ringlands on stock tunes

[@blakef235]

changaboy123 you mean on a shit tune! all depends on how good your tuner is and not trying to push a stupid hp

[@ashcosmo3854]

James Milton they blow ring lands on stock tunes my friend is on his second engine all done under warranty because he hasn't touched the engine

[@blakef235]

Ash Cosmo i own one and havnt had any dramas

[@ashcosmo3854]

cross your fingers I suppose haha

[@kaddenschott7318]

ford rs cost way more no thanks sti better. Put that extra 10 grand in your pocket and you got a better car still.

[@Zander13Productions]

actually the rs is cheaper. they can be had all day long for under 37k for an rs1.

[@josejimenez3609]

I like your videos

[@huntermcpherson8399]

If he says exhaust pipes one more time...

[@viyau]

I have heard that the RS rides harder and the seats are rock hard too. I would also worry about depreciation in the RS given you spend so much on the sticker price.

[@patrickpmd84]

The STI you can just adjust more power to the rear wheels and can easily get the back end out all you want

[@TheDealer6373]

So just like every other car.

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

I still feel the gti may still be the best car for the money. Sti has ring land issue, rs has cracked block and rear diff issue as well as terrible turning radius, gold r is good but still haldex and every time i maintain one by servicing the awd system i think how much the car could be with a system like in the evo. Gti is cheap, and has a front diff that is good. The gti is light weight and you can fit 17inch wheels on for good price sticky tires. I say the performance car i prefer would be type r or gti

[@sean9267]

But it looks and sounds soooo boring.

[@Menace_sti]

i like the focus rs but i feel like the sti has alot more going for it in terms of aftermarket parts.. rs feels like how my mazdaspeed was very few exterior parts amd interior.. more performance parts and thats fine but the 2015+ has alot of support going for it. you can really make it your own

[@Wigwam93]

nfamous_scooby that's true. Subaru already knows that people don't leave these cars stock so the didn't bother bumping up the power. Which makes sense cause these cars are meant to be personalized af.

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

First 2 1/2 minutes, was cringe worthy expecting to hear a fast approaching vehicle T-Bone the parked road straddling Subaru...

[@javieribarra612]

Subaru ruls salutes from Colombia

[@mannyolivas9760]

Both these cars are pretty idiotic to buy, the rs is over priced for a hatchback, and the suburu's engine is old as hell. You'd be better off just buying an older sti or a focus st

[@motomonster525]

The RS is still more a fluffer car for people who want to say they have more HP and want a daily driver. The STI is a track car. Steering feed back is there on purpose for driver feel.

[@davidcienfuegos4481]

i traded my rs for an rs! best decision of my life!

[@kaddenschott7318]

David Cienfuegos i traded my rs for sti best idea ever way better car.

[@ScuolaDIVITAVISSUTA]

Rs!

[@jamescoccaro3392]

I'll be honest, I'm a subie fanboy. But there is no denying that the new focus RS is way better than the new sti.

[@daltonv5206]

that Subaru is hideous. older ones looked better

[@stevenfreitas8775]

If you can't get a Mustang GT, the RS is the next best thing.

[@raymondhachmishvili2483]

Avoid both....WRX or golf GTI are the best...

[@LegendaryScottOfficial]

Raymond Hachmishvili The golf? Best? Hahahaha!

[@TheDealer6373]

Lol the golf gti is not even in the same category. Rs3 a45 ctr would destroy the gti. The numbers are not even close. I will admit that it's funny reading posts from VW owners.

[@opalbeifong695]

Sorry die-hard subaru fans. we all know the focus is better. end of story.

[@polea009]

its better at cracking the block

[@emiliano29171316]

polea009 Subarus are unreliable at like 300 hp

[@polea009]

T1GR3S13 apparently fords are unreliable stock!

[@emiliano29171316]

polea009 I know. but they are going to fix it with time. Subarus been unreliable for 25 years

[@kaddenschott7318]

sti is better no room you cant even fit in the rs waste of money and poor build quality.

[@michaelthurman1481]

ALL OF YOU SAYING THE FOCUS IS FASTER ARE SO WRONG. REMEMBER THE FOCUS HAS 45 MORE HP AND 60 MORE FT LBS OF TORQUE. 0-60 BETWEEN THE CARS ARE IDENTICAL. 1/4 MILE TIMES ARE IDENTICAL. 0-100 SUBARU IS FASTER. AWD SYSTEM ON SUBARU IS HANDS DOWN WAY BETTER. SO HOW IS IT THAT ALL THAT EXTRA POWER FORD PUTS INTO THEIR FOCUS JUST TIES A SUPPOSEDLY INFERIOR CAR? HMMMM MAKES YOU WONDER DOESNT IT. AND DONT ANY OF YOU SAY WEIGHT. THEY ARE ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME. SUBARU JUST DOES MORE WITH LESS AND IS LESS EXPENSIVE. HANDS DOWN SUBARU WINS HERE GUYS.

[@brysonmblackwell]

the Nissan Sentra Nismo is a better vehicle.

[@jacobreed47]

BryB haha yeah right.

[@brysonmblackwell]

Acuravigor47. :-)

[@hubpaq]

hahaha are you serious, sentra hahaha

[@johntyson]

Troll's gonna troll.

[@trebors386]

nope the Nismo Leaf is the best

[@katmanjenks1961]

Little p p