Face-to-face with Russians in Ukrainian-occupied Kursk Oblast

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@kyivindependent
@kyivindependent 2 ай бұрын
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@alxp-zd1zj
@alxp-zd1zj 2 ай бұрын
Why give attention to these women who are clearly trying to play victim where they are not harmed in any way, unlike the Urkainians? If it were the other way around and she was Ukranian, then she would have been shot instantly. I m sure that when the Ukrainian army is gone then they have nothing but praise for their beloved putin.
@karenrobertsdottir4101
@karenrobertsdottir4101 2 ай бұрын
Great coverage, as always! It does make me wonder: under the laws of war, the resources of an occupied region cannot be used for the benefits of the occupier, but they can (and should) be used to maintain / rebuild infrastructure in the occupied region. So from my reading, Ukraine would have full rights to tax all gas passing through the Sudzha pumping station, and if Russia refuses to pay, diverting a percentage of the gas to Ukraine to cover their debt, so long as the funds went to reconstruction in the Kursk People's Republic. So Russia blows up a building, bridge, or whatnot, Ukraine could rebuild it with Russian gas money. And surely Europe would take Ukraine's side in that dispute, only crediting Russia for delivering the non-taxed portion of the gas. I wonder if they'll end up taking that approach? The whole thing will be moot regardless at the end of the year when the transport contracts expire. Wherein, by all means, reverse the pumps, pump high pressure air into the Bratstvo pipeline at maximum power while the Russian pumping station at Mari El is off, do maximal damage (to the pipeline, Mari El pumping station, and Urengoy gas field), haul off the valuable pumping to safety, and start legal proceedings to seize it as part of reparations. Sad that Urengoy is an older gas field without that much life left in it anyway...
@nbern7283
@nbern7283 2 ай бұрын
​@@karenrobertsdottir4101Украина всегда воровала газ из трубы, ведущей в Европу. Ворует и сейчас. Так что советы им не нужны, своих "умельцев" навалом.
@nbern7283
@nbern7283 2 ай бұрын
Patrick Lancaster
@nbern7283
@nbern7283 2 ай бұрын
Patrick Lancaster
@ChristianIce
@ChristianIce 2 ай бұрын
"I'm not into politics" Remember that politics is *always* into you.
@LucaB-c4u
@LucaB-c4u 2 ай бұрын
Love your songs!
@Arkiasis
@Arkiasis 2 ай бұрын
Literally the same excuse every single Russian says. What a weak and complacent people.
@Mpwaq-or1ek
@Mpwaq-or1ek 2 ай бұрын
True
@vilozox
@vilozox Ай бұрын
Man what a bullshit you said, her “into politic” couldn’t change anything in this war. What a bullshit you said. It’s not a collective responsibility
@DMlTREl
@DMlTREl Ай бұрын
Ironic, many people were not interested in Ukraine war with Donbas citizens till Russia joined
@Pbav8tor
@Pbav8tor 2 ай бұрын
I find it impossible to believe these ladies live this close to Ukraine and everything was fine for the last 2.5 years.
@andrewgoodbody2121
@andrewgoodbody2121 2 ай бұрын
No different from the German public claiming "we didn't know" after the war.
@salad7776
@salad7776 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, they were happy that their troops would "finally show to Ukrainians their strength" :(
@AlskinsX1-9
@AlskinsX1-9 2 ай бұрын
Russian people are so CLUELESS!
@ЕгорБайченко-у1ш
@ЕгорБайченко-у1ш 2 ай бұрын
Why would not they? In November 2021 CIA director Burns visited Moscow where a pact was made similar to Molotov-Ribbentrop. Putin agreed not to invade NATO and Burns promised that US will assure no strikes into Russian territory. On Aug 8 Putin made an address where he characterized the invasion as "provocation". He was laught upon by entire world like was is talking about. Putin knew precisely what he was talking about: these words were directed at Biden administration you promised and broke your promise. Unfortunately for Putin Biden has been defunkt for a month. Most telling is the fact that once Biden was out Ukraine immediately launched the offensive.
@prototype21
@prototype21 2 ай бұрын
They were fine with the past 2.5 years until their villages became the battleground going up into flames and turning into moon craters. Now all of the sudden their apolitical stance became very very very political.
@byronshepherd8415
@byronshepherd8415 2 ай бұрын
that babushka didn't care until it was in her backyard "I'm not into politics"
@xtripx4273
@xtripx4273 2 ай бұрын
Yeah... default ork babushka. Brainwashed.
@wanderingseth
@wanderingseth 2 ай бұрын
I think this is normal for most people. It certainly describes the U.S. position in WW2.
@bjkarana
@bjkarana 2 ай бұрын
@@wanderingseth Absolutely; a small town in podunk Russia. These aren't Muscovites; they're likely just everyday people doing everyday things and then they're in an active war zone.
@ClaudePelletier-my2qx
@ClaudePelletier-my2qx 2 ай бұрын
A lot of People don't bother with politics...until politics hit home 🏡 to bother them !
@yehldyehld
@yehldyehld 2 ай бұрын
tbf i wouldnt be into politics if I was Russian. Too much BS, too many lies. It's all confusing
@ix-wxrrior4339
@ix-wxrrior4339 2 ай бұрын
How can you genuinely say with a straight face ‘I don’t know what goes on, I don’t watch tv’. You literally live on the border with Ukraine during an ongoing war. I think it’s actually impossible to not know what’s going on.
@antoniorizo335
@antoniorizo335 2 ай бұрын
I think you underestimate Russian propaganda.
@EmdelphW
@EmdelphW 2 ай бұрын
There is the issue of ruzzian propaganda but also it looks like these people live very simply, if they have a TV can they afford the electric to watch it? Plus what is on will be monitored state TV so we are back to the propaganda problem. I think apart from that, so many people living in rural communities won't have the access to the news like we do, I doubt they all have smart phones telling them the minutiae of daily life, they are living under tin roofs and tending to their goats or sheep in most cases!
@tomas6179
@tomas6179 2 ай бұрын
@@antoniorizo335and you have your head in the @ss of collective west lies
@fubuixmas
@fubuixmas 2 ай бұрын
​@@antoniorizo335Americans are so braindead that they can not believe someone does not watch TV and can not see any propaganda. So stupid people from big USA lmao
@vamp40
@vamp40 2 ай бұрын
​@@antoniorizo335"I don't watch TV" "It's Russian propaganda" are you even a real person?
@pcbacklash_3261
@pcbacklash_3261 2 ай бұрын
What I find most fascinating about this video is the recurring theme you find in most of the interviews -- that it all started August 6th. Not February 2022. Not 2014. August. They were totally oblivious to the constant assaults inflicted by their leader on their neighbors, and were no doubt HAPPY to be oblivious. Welcome to reality!
@shahed1367
@shahed1367 Ай бұрын
Логично что для них все началось в августе ведь именно в августе ВСУ начали операцию в Курске по отвлечению внимания так называемого цивилизованного мира от ситуации на Донбасе.
@holgere.
@holgere. 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Well said concluding words: "We don't need this land. We only need what's ours!"
@martinlye2748
@martinlye2748 2 ай бұрын
Russian propaganda is so deep they cannot see what s real.
@ryannguyen8001
@ryannguyen8001 2 ай бұрын
I think it's the base of the communist countries. I original came from Vietnam and the government did the same thing, even now. It's like they have to put a nice coat of paint over a piece of rotten wood, eventually the wood will show and a new coat of paint is ready.
@soylentgreen8795
@soylentgreen8795 2 ай бұрын
@@grathapilot It's actually an ukrainian media outlet
@valerianebeaulieu5416
@valerianebeaulieu5416 2 ай бұрын
@@grathapilot it’s Canadian and Ukrainian. Are you voting this November?
@fuzzbuzz2000
@fuzzbuzz2000 2 ай бұрын
@@grathapilot So real footage is fake propaganda?What a brainwashed moron....
@coodudeman
@coodudeman 2 ай бұрын
@@valerianebeaulieu5416 lol could it be a bot?.. if not, i agree with you that they should sit ALL elections out! lol SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦🇺🇲 HEROYAM SLAVA!
@Mrpartycrascher
@Mrpartycrascher 2 ай бұрын
"Do you understand that you were not into politics, but now politics has come to you" -Epic question
@No_jews_allowed
@No_jews_allowed 2 ай бұрын
The azov Nazi reporter was so cringy
@DARDA360
@DARDA360 2 ай бұрын
Plato tried to remind us that punishment for civic passivity is a criminal government -- a few thousand years ago.
@Rhythm911
@Rhythm911 2 ай бұрын
Thats because, and I state again that... No-one can truly understand whats going on elsewhere in the world unless it 'rolls up on their doorstep' !! Just like half of the US was confused and duped about Old Yambo the Fat while in the 'thrall' of MAGAMORON MADNESS !!!
@coachprescott72
@coachprescott72 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@weller71884
@weller71884 2 ай бұрын
This is a standard reply from Russian citizens who oppose Putin but are afraid to voice opinions on said questions
@LDP.
@LDP. 2 ай бұрын
I am Italian and I am ashamed that journalists from my country have returned to Italy out of fear, because they are threatened by Russia, how cowardly, I am ashamed for them, unfortunately here in Italy there is still a lot of psychological subjection on the part of Russia, real journalists, those who are on the right side, do not give up, they go on until the end, Slava Ukraine 💪🏻🇺🇦❤️
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe 2 ай бұрын
I am afraid to to say it but the Italian journalists are right. There is nothing they can do. They would just be held in Russia as hostages.
@ermining1
@ermining1 2 ай бұрын
You should go then
@davidrudpedersen5622
@davidrudpedersen5622 2 ай бұрын
🤌
@ultrachel
@ultrachel 2 ай бұрын
Макаронники
@SuicideFecal
@SuicideFecal Ай бұрын
Imagine a journalist arriving to a Ukrainian territory occupied by Russia and how Ukraine would treat this (spoiler: they will be included into a Mirotvorets terrorist list instantly)
@wilmavanheerden9177
@wilmavanheerden9177 2 ай бұрын
Very good reporting, thank you. This war has ruined so many lives
@salad7776
@salad7776 2 ай бұрын
millions of people suffer, they lost loved ones, they lost their health, they lost their homes, they lost their property, they lost their jobs, they had to flee, they are refugees, they have to rebuild their lives among strangers 😟
@abanobicharles198
@abanobicharles198 2 ай бұрын
Fr
@abanobicharles198
@abanobicharles198 2 ай бұрын
Ur so right
@abanobicharles198
@abanobicharles198 2 ай бұрын
They lost so many ilves
@abanobicharles198
@abanobicharles198 2 ай бұрын
😢😢😢😢😢
@jppalm3944
@jppalm3944 2 ай бұрын
Ukraine went through worse for almost 3 years. Russians didn’t care.
@garbennett4758
@garbennett4758 2 ай бұрын
Don't worry, the tide is turning!
@rajlowkie6616
@rajlowkie6616 2 ай бұрын
Thats over a decade ago including the (" little green elves in Crimea").
@links-gut-versifftergrunme1809
@links-gut-versifftergrunme1809 2 ай бұрын
As the reporter said: For ten years.
@ridass.7137
@ridass.7137 2 ай бұрын
I would say more like 20 years because even before euromaidan there was a lot of tensions with yanukovych and other ruzzian crap.
@allmech_BMW_fault_finding
@allmech_BMW_fault_finding 2 ай бұрын
Since 2014*
@jennyeyley3887
@jennyeyley3887 2 ай бұрын
It's hard to feel sorry for the Russians when Ukraine has been through so much
@marystaufenberg
@marystaufenberg 2 ай бұрын
How can you feel sorry for the Russians when they will not defend themselves from their own Government.
@veramae4098
@veramae4098 2 ай бұрын
"Please just tell our children we are alive." How about telling the kidnapped Ukrainian children their parents still love them?
@sk.43821
@sk.43821 2 ай бұрын
​@@veramae4098 This is too simple. Those people actually have absolutely no influence at this very moment. I would want to see you, if you had lived that woman's life.
@jweezy5490
@jweezy5490 2 ай бұрын
@@sk.43821 if I had lived that women's life I would have moved to the USA like all my other Russian friends that don't like Russian politics 😂
@sguploads9601
@sguploads9601 2 ай бұрын
if you are not human - yes.
@StepXX
@StepXX 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for excellent reporting, colleagues! Thanks to the reporter for being honest and transparent - real journalism! I just hope we will be allowed to go there as well eventually (so far the area is closed).
@kurtlee3198
@kurtlee3198 2 ай бұрын
"now politics has come to you!" is gonna be one of those lines that will forever be remembered in relation to this war, whoever said that fucking killed it
@arturincloud9892
@arturincloud9892 2 ай бұрын
This war began in Donetsk in 2014 when Kiev started bombing civil cities. And now came to Kursk region.
@kurtlee3198
@kurtlee3198 2 ай бұрын
@@arturincloud9892 i thought it was so russia could de-natzifye ukraine? or was to stop ukraine joining nato? or was it a bufferzone? or just a 3 day SMO? also why would ukraine bomb its own cities? it dont even bomb russian cities so why would it bomb its own you absolute melt
@Haugers
@Haugers Ай бұрын
@@arturincloud9892 Evidence for that?
@SN-zb7ew
@SN-zb7ew 2 ай бұрын
Russia will never have a future to celebrate because all Russia does is celebrate their past… That’s what Putin could not deal with with the Ukrainians.. The Ukrainians are strong people that draw their strength from their past and their faith in the future.. 🇺🇦 Slava, Ukraine🇺🇦 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@sandmantk4901
@sandmantk4901 2 ай бұрын
Putin power trip.
@nightelfuser
@nightelfuser 2 ай бұрын
You're right. Ukraine got rid of its fraternal heritage with Russia and now desperately wants to be a Western country. They're not even in the EU, and NATO will not drag its corpse around after it loses the conflict.
@paladro
@paladro 2 ай бұрын
well said.
@nightelfuser
@nightelfuser 2 ай бұрын
You don't know a thing about Ukrainians.
@denis2630
@denis2630 2 ай бұрын
People that forget their past have no future.
@williamyamm8803
@williamyamm8803 2 ай бұрын
8:45 "I am not realy into politics" Maybe you should !!!! Russia started invading Ukraine over 2 years ago and Russian people didn't care. And now they are surprised at their situation. Greetings from France
@bardkuzniadram6193
@bardkuzniadram6193 2 ай бұрын
Even if you are not interested in politics, politics can have some interest in you in disguise of FPV drone for example...
@tomsmith5488
@tomsmith5488 2 ай бұрын
Ruzz invaded more than ten years ago and for nearly 30 years has been subverting life in ukr.
@criswait5416
@criswait5416 2 ай бұрын
she is not into politics but she is all aware that to tell something their leaders dont like entails punishment. if she has all works and no politics how the hell she knows this about their leaders?... as proven by history, once a communist always a communist, to lie is part of its ideology
@ezinaz1
@ezinaz1 2 ай бұрын
Russians invaded Ukraine 10 years ago. A ten year occupation
@robertginsburg8113
@robertginsburg8113 2 ай бұрын
Russia actually invaded Ukraine 10 years ago and the Russian people were more than happy to take Crimea from Ukraine so they could make it their playground. I have no sympathy for these whiny people.
@barslars6038
@barslars6038 2 ай бұрын
It's hard to believe that these people are not cognizant of a war killing thousands of people about a 100 miles from where they live. How can they be apolitical when hundreds of thousands have died not even a days drive from them? It's like to survive in Russia you must lose your sense of empathy and if that's true it's a sick society.
@karengiersing8547
@karengiersing8547 2 ай бұрын
One could ask, haven't their been rumors of the many Russian soldiers who have died during the war?
@nationalsocialist5526
@nationalsocialist5526 2 ай бұрын
Your just soft, override ya democratic indoctrination lmao 😂
@joecruiser
@joecruiser 2 ай бұрын
Ostriches living with their heads in the sand ....? Speak no ....
@zjwmusic1936
@zjwmusic1936 2 ай бұрын
if you want to know the truth, it's because for Russians it has always been "leave government alone and it will (hopefully) leave you alone". When you start forming opinions and answering phone surveys, that's when police show up in the night to beat the shit out of you and (these days) film an apology.
@zedeyejoe
@zedeyejoe 2 ай бұрын
Well its up to 15 years in prison for disagreeing with the Russian government view, in Russia. Thats why they won't say anything.
@lesleyebdon8044
@lesleyebdon8044 2 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary,. Thank you for your bravery in bringing it to us.
@Tortuex_
@Tortuex_ 2 ай бұрын
very interesting video, thank you for your high quality coverage !
@raceace
@raceace 2 ай бұрын
Huge difference between the Ukrainian army and the Russian riff raff. The Ukrainians haven’t given the Russian civilians the Bucha treatment they were subjected to.
@a_lethe_ion
@a_lethe_ion 2 ай бұрын
Yes, bc they know that you don't defend human rights by ignoring them against the right enemy or the right people
@AqvaSerpentis
@AqvaSerpentis 2 ай бұрын
This shows ignorance, the Ukrainian army have committed atrocities in the Donetsk region, you claiming this is a blatant disrespect towards the civilians that have been massacred by the Ukrainian army
@jaxileonova7003
@jaxileonova7003 2 ай бұрын
Are you there? How you know? Many civilians got killed.
@jaxileonova7003
@jaxileonova7003 2 ай бұрын
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@Fanat27
@Fanat27 2 ай бұрын
За 3 года войны не представлено ни одного видео военных преступлений Армии России. Не стоит верить украинской пропаганде.
@Mikeandlucy1
@Mikeandlucy1 2 ай бұрын
Whats Russian for 'Oh the irony of it all' these people are happy to turn a blind eye when its their army invading Ukraine, roping, mardering, destrying but when the war arrives in their town it's all weeping and moaning. No sympathy, none whatsoever.
@marklittle8805
@marklittle8805 2 ай бұрын
These poor Russians cheered on their boys in Ukraine. No two ways about it. Haven't met a Russian here in Canada that thinks Putin can do no wrong....and yet they live here where there is rule of law and it isn't the crap hole that Russia is
@donalddepew5373
@donalddepew5373 2 ай бұрын
The heartbreak on the elder lady in the green Adidas t shirt was clear as day hearing about things done in Ukraine
@Noel-lt3ty
@Noel-lt3ty 2 ай бұрын
You do understand this is called propaganda and that last soldier told you that’ roundabout way
@marklittle8805
@marklittle8805 2 ай бұрын
@@Noel-lt3ty perhaps, but Russians are very willing to excuse Russia's excesses when it doesn't effect them. But now they are on the other end they all the sudden want peace? Too bad....I don't think this is a lie at all.
@sk.43821
@sk.43821 2 ай бұрын
70 % of US citizens according to polls supported the invasion of Iraq after less than a year of campaign. It is so simple to convince even theoretically well informed people. Many in the western democracies don't understand what effects propaganda and authoritarianism have, because they have never experienced it. What if Iraq conquered the USA? How many would answer "Oh, we live on our farm in [Ohio to Kansas], I don't care what they do in Washington."?
@bobskibrit2133
@bobskibrit2133 2 ай бұрын
When all Russians are asked 'have you seen what is going on in Ukraine', the same response, 'oh I don't follow politics' or 'I don't watch TV, rubbish....they all know.
@lukephilip2388
@lukephilip2388 2 ай бұрын
yes they know. they have opinions. but what do you think would become of them if they voiced them? Nothing but fear on show here... people who have to lie, knowing they lie, playing stupid for fear of the consequences of thought...
@bobskibrit2133
@bobskibrit2133 2 ай бұрын
@@lukephilip2388 at least Ukrainians had the balls to come out in force on Maidan and brave the bullets of the Berkut to affect change. So it's crap. If Russians really wanted change then a million people in red square could not be stopped. Problem is the majority are still sheep, kept poor and kept uneducated and fed rubbish and propaganda. I get they have fear of repression but eventually that just becomes an excuse. Ukrainians did it, Romanians did it, Lithuanians did it...Russians could to but they all live their little Fuhrer
@timmos184
@timmos184 2 ай бұрын
They lie and play victim, that's all they do, a terrorist state, the lot of them.
@LetoDK
@LetoDK 2 ай бұрын
The majority of Russians are depoliticized. It's not that they "don't care" - it's that they don't even consider whether they should care or not. Change will require mentality shift for an entire nation. They need to learn that they have to start taking responsibility.
@Lonelywolf1312.
@Lonelywolf1312. 2 ай бұрын
Of course they know and they dont care selfish people
@andyambrose2921
@andyambrose2921 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant and interesting reporting. Well done. We need more reporting like this. Only thing that bothers me, is why I did not get an invite for a trip like this, and why we did not have any BBC or ITV Journalists on the trip.
@Alex-jx5bx
@Alex-jx5bx 2 ай бұрын
Great reporting!! Thank you! Be safe!🙏
@olorin4317
@olorin4317 2 ай бұрын
It forces Russia to seriously guard the entire border. Fresh recruits and rent-a-cops don’t cut it. That is a huge deal. The incursion is an embarrassment that Putin can not hide. The Ukrainian warriors have consistently proven themselves to be as bold and brilliant as they are cautious and wise.
@Nr4747
@Nr4747 2 ай бұрын
Yes, very good analysis ! And it also proves to Russia that simply hiding their assets (planes, artillery, AA-weapons, radars, electronic warfare, ammo & fuel depots, troop concentrations etc.) behind the border will no longer mean that they can only be hit by the few long range munitions Ukraine has. Ukraine has now always the option to deal with those assets the old-fashioned way, namely in close combat.
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti 2 ай бұрын
All I see is that stunt already got stuck for 3 days now and tons of russian videos of them dropping fab‘s on them. Casualty rate must be stupidly high
@ლუკაფოფხაძე-ღ1ზ
@ლუკაფოფხაძე-ღ1ზ 2 ай бұрын
they dont have fresh recruits :d they all flee the country
@JohnSmith-tl8pq
@JohnSmith-tl8pq 2 ай бұрын
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti Ha, most Russian videos are of other locations and time periods. A lot of their so called bombing videos are from 2022 in Ukraine.
@blessed994
@blessed994 2 ай бұрын
Потому что украинские козаки лучшие воины в мире!
@garethevans1657
@garethevans1657 2 ай бұрын
Russian ignorance is incomparable
@cristicristiii
@cristicristiii 2 ай бұрын
The president of Russia says that everything is under control, but those citizens say that they are in danger. What can one make of this?
@kamalohim
@kamalohim 2 ай бұрын
That the Russian president lies?
@markiyanhapyak349
@markiyanhapyak349 2 ай бұрын
Officially there's NO president in russia. 😎
@hayatwy
@hayatwy 2 ай бұрын
@cristicristiii listen to the ones who have more to lose ,,The rich have options , the poor do not
@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg
@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg 2 ай бұрын
That Putin tells Porkie Pie's
@christianjambou8208
@christianjambou8208 2 ай бұрын
Putin doesn't give a fuck about common folks.
@tacticalsapper
@tacticalsapper 2 ай бұрын
Slava Ukraini. You amaze everyday with your intelligence, strength and resiliance. This is unprecidented. Love and support from EU.
@Cotif11
@Cotif11 2 ай бұрын
The Ukrainians say "glory to the heroes" and indeed they have found such glory already, showing to the world their imperative to fight for freedom and democracy. Slava Ukraini! Heroiam slava!
@playoffmodesp2536
@playoffmodesp2536 2 ай бұрын
"Democracy" lol
@SuicideFecal
@SuicideFecal Ай бұрын
How do closed borders, recruitment officers chasing men all over the country and lack of elections intersect with democracy? More like USSR in its worst times.
@AlexanderZhuravlev-vy3js
@AlexanderZhuravlev-vy3js Ай бұрын
Они показали только то, как можно разреветься на весь мир и клянчить в долг оружие с боеприпасами.
@solsiggen
@solsiggen Ай бұрын
Tell me.....where you find the democracy in Ukraine!!?? I been there 27!!! times.....and i have stillo not found it. Please tell me what i not been able to see.
@user-jv7ig6ie5b
@user-jv7ig6ie5b 2 ай бұрын
Excellent journalism. Thank you for your hard work and bravery in getting the unbiased word out about the situation.
@5000Helme
@5000Helme 2 ай бұрын
What my grandparents in Germany said "We didn't know". They passed away now. Rest in peace. But I've never believed them.
@lukephilip2388
@lukephilip2388 2 ай бұрын
yeah they were lying. shame on them for never being honest with you.. but I guess denying it saved them ever having to accept their own accountability. Very common I would assume. The psychology is fascinating though.
@michaelklassen5499
@michaelklassen5499 2 ай бұрын
What if they were telling the truth? When government outlaws questions, it is best to investigate what the government attempts to keep silent about.
@5000Helme
@5000Helme 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelklassen5499 I'll never find out.
@michaelklassen5499
@michaelklassen5499 2 ай бұрын
@@5000Helme Exactly, I feel that truth is lost to history. Some things I heard from my Frisian Grand father makes me question what the government says and what I learned in school. If anything I learned to believe family first and always before governments.
@suzannefarrington4143
@suzannefarrington4143 2 ай бұрын
Depends on the family member and the government.
@someone2549
@someone2549 2 ай бұрын
"We are apolitical, we don't watch TV, we are not interested in politics, we work all day we don't know what is happening arround...", they say. Who believes them? 😂
@sharonmontag2389
@sharonmontag2389 2 ай бұрын
Nobody I know.
@IndebtedPleb
@IndebtedPleb 2 ай бұрын
That is how most Russians are. They live in a dictatorship, so having an opinion on politics is dangerous. But besides that really a lot of Russians are apathic about politics because "I anyways cant change anything"
@salec7592
@salec7592 2 ай бұрын
Mouse people, same in all fear-o-cracies. Eternally scared, compliant, will even patriotically boast when commanded to. But if there is any visible opposition, they hide faces, avoid cameras. Afraid even of weak opposition. What do they know? Next, opposition may win after all?
@mabee1961
@mabee1961 2 ай бұрын
If people are not interested in politics, then they are not interested in whether politics is continued with weapons. Russia invades a neighboring state and Russians only say that they are not interested in politics. Now Russians are confronted with the consequences of their indifference.
@dopaminefield
@dopaminefield 2 ай бұрын
Most people are actually apolitical and just want to carry on with their lives. Even the fanatical keyboard warriors would feel the same if people with guns stormed their homes. These individuals thrive far from the frontlines, provoking others to fight more and more. They view wars as a sort of entertainment, experienced through the screen, much like a football match.
@ludoviccruchot5984
@ludoviccruchot5984 2 ай бұрын
If russian population very close to the borders do not know about the war, imagine in the remaining of the huge russian territory.
@h0stI13
@h0stI13 2 ай бұрын
They know very well about the war. They just don't care. And they suddenly become apolitical when confronted with reality. Civic spirit is nonexistent in Russian society. It has been murdered centuries ago.
@lucaspires7112
@lucaspires7112 2 ай бұрын
Sabem que tem guerra né só que nem se informan muito não pesquisam😂😂
@lucaspires7112
@lucaspires7112 2 ай бұрын
Ucrânia bucha de canhão dos states e da otan 😂😂😂
@Apokrovic
@Apokrovic Ай бұрын
most russians are very aware of the war
@ЗлойАсисяй2
@ЗлойАсисяй2 Ай бұрын
@@Apokrovic Что значит большенство? Все знают кроме этой подставной бабки,ей денег дали и она говорит то что ей сказали
@shermoore1693
@shermoore1693 2 ай бұрын
Excellent reorting. Thank you Kyiv Independent.
@mariamazko
@mariamazko 2 ай бұрын
Showing Russians how Ukrainians live under Russia occupation is a very good idea. That should be done in every village, every city.
@Lunamanka
@Lunamanka Ай бұрын
It's probably should be shown after the end... I showed to my grandma some of this. She just refuses to watch or says that it's false/propaganda
@alekszmaalmen7559
@alekszmaalmen7559 Ай бұрын
да ты скоро сама исчезнешь, тупая набитая корова
@AlexanderZhuravlev-vy3js
@AlexanderZhuravlev-vy3js Ай бұрын
Силенок не хватит😊
@flamingskull1171
@flamingskull1171 Ай бұрын
Во время войны, никто не будет этого делать. Даже если моя страна не права, я буду ее потдерживать. Иначе, предательство. После войны можно будет это обсудить и что-то делать. Сейчас идет война за существование России и ее места в мире.
@ibeattoyou444
@ibeattoyou444 Ай бұрын
meanwhile ukraine is losing more and more territory in donbas lol
@funnymovie2827
@funnymovie2827 2 ай бұрын
Ukraine soldiers is taking care of Russian civilians real respect from ph
@Leo-yr5jb
@Leo-yr5jb 2 ай бұрын
1 "Dura led sed lex" 2 This is a special region for Ukraine, they are not quite Russians. Now it is difficult to explain, but we have seen the same people in Ukraine 20 years ago Homosovieticus already during the return of independence of Ukraine. The problem is that in Russian there are 2 words in English 1 is difficult to clarify Rossiynin not same Russian. Russia is a monster Frankinstein and in this monster you will see a piece cut off from you in it. In this region there is a house of literally a building not the metaphorical of the fifth or fourth of the most important person for the history of Ukraine Ivan Mazepa. The house of the exists, but it has been in terrible condition and Russia threatened to turn it into a museum of the Russian culture for many years. Can google it "Chambers of Hetman Mazepa "
@MichaelMutenda
@MichaelMutenda 2 ай бұрын
But why are Russians crying?
@porosus2469
@porosus2469 2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelMutenda Because they know that when ruzzians will try to take back this territories, it would be done by the only strategy they've use so far - "burned ground".
@feiryfella
@feiryfella 2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelMutenda 'I never thought leopards would eat MY face', sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Who Eat People's Faces Party.
@schroedingers_atze
@schroedingers_atze 2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelMutenda Putin's regime left them alone and launched heavy air strikes on their areas. At least some of them were intercepted
@benjaminrush4443
@benjaminrush4443 2 ай бұрын
What a Great Broadcast. Thank you from Massachusetts, USA. "Slava Ukrani ! " 💛💙 🙏
@mdstate829
@mdstate829 2 ай бұрын
Has your country paid compensation for the illegal invasion of Iraq and the numerous war crimes committed there like Abu Gharib? You are the same as russia.
@benjaminrush4443
@benjaminrush4443 2 ай бұрын
@@mdstate829 86 to 1
@TMZtOO
@TMZtOO 2 ай бұрын
Its a "Special Military Operation"
@JuggernautS51
@JuggernautS51 2 ай бұрын
It's like past 1945, people are saying they didn't know nothing. And they weren't or are in politics. Ridiculous
@Skankhunt668
@Skankhunt668 2 ай бұрын
Because it's dangerous for them
@IS-2_1944
@IS-2_1944 2 ай бұрын
I'd say they fear what their government will do to them if they speak out
@Bobbadobbadole
@Bobbadobbadole 2 ай бұрын
Wow, what bravery to visit occupied russian territory to report on Ukrainian treatment of civilians there. I’m very thankful that KI brought us this reporting at great personal and legal risk. I’m a proud monthly supporter of KI because they bring us the truth. З Днем Незалежності України. Слава Україні!
@sashad.7722
@sashad.7722 2 ай бұрын
Of course Putin doesn't know anything abt Sudzha🙈 No responsibility but all power in his hands👍
@Leo-yr5jb
@Leo-yr5jb 2 ай бұрын
He know but for it same Ukrainian or better right Ukrainian. Ukrainian from Ukraine it bad Ukrainian Old Ukrainian region cut by Stalin from Ukraine The closest piece of Ireland is in England, just imagine that England is a totalitarian country and prohibits the manifestations of their native culture and 0 autonomy.
@slobodanpaunovic3834
@slobodanpaunovic3834 2 ай бұрын
What do you have in your hands 😂😂😂
@slobodanpaunovic3834
@slobodanpaunovic3834 2 ай бұрын
Cute baby ❤️
@lukephilip2388
@lukephilip2388 2 ай бұрын
This is a phenomenal piece of journalism. Seen you pop up on a few stories in Ukraine. Serious bravery to yourself and the team. Its great to see the Ukrainians taking the moral high ground here too. I guess they understand how complicated this is and what totalitarianism and propaganda can do to people. Keep up the good work and stay safe 🙏
@perseusarkouda
@perseusarkouda 2 ай бұрын
The usual Russian phrase "I'm not into politics"... and that's why you allowed fascism to rise.
@taumus1
@taumus1 2 ай бұрын
You are aware that Russia is a dictatorship? Are you blaming Ukraine for sitting through the invasion and occupation of Eastern Europe as Soviet citizens, or were they magically oppressed while anyone in Russia are to blame.
@striker1689
@striker1689 2 ай бұрын
Как россиянин, соглашусь.У нас многие знают, но боятся возразить власти.
@priestsonaplane2236
@priestsonaplane2236 2 ай бұрын
Lmao you wanna tell a journalist of a country that just occupied your town that you support Putin?
@perseusarkouda
@perseusarkouda 2 ай бұрын
@@priestsonaplane2236 say the war is a terrible thing. Say something useful at least.
@whereareyouimsorry
@whereareyouimsorry 2 ай бұрын
Not a russian phrase at all and a lot of people aren't into politics.i don't like that russia started a war, but still i'm not so brainwashed as to say a old grandma in a small village was supposed to do something about the government
@lansvale28
@lansvale28 2 ай бұрын
Ukraine have liberated them from fascists
@etiquettefiend
@etiquettefiend 2 ай бұрын
Fascism and communism are almost the same thing. Just their definition of private property differs. It's refreshing to hear someone say "fascist Russia." Excellent documentary.
@Marty_YouTuber
@Marty_YouTuber 2 ай бұрын
Power in Russia’s authoritarian political system is concentrated in the hands of President Vladimir Putin. With subservient courts and security forces, a controlled media environment, and a legislature consisting of a ruling party and pliable opposition factions, the Kremlin manipulates elections and suppresses genuine opposition. Rampant corruption facilitates shifting links among state officials and organized crime groups. Since the regime launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, authorities have intensified restrictions on individual rights and liberties in order to stifle domestic dissent.
@alexm6193
@alexm6193 2 ай бұрын
Its sad to watch but this is what is needed. People who have never asked the question of why there is a war... starting to ask why.
@coodudeman
@coodudeman 2 ай бұрын
how terrible that the old woman is still afraid to have an opinion... SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦🇺🇲 HEROYAM SLAVA! WOW! she has no idea that her policy of "i don't want to know" and those like her are quite responsible for this! My own mother does the same thing... hard to watch. but, my mother does not have armed soldiers watching her... so she has even less of an excuse.
@jamesgough3938
@jamesgough3938 2 ай бұрын
It's integral to their culture. They have given up the responsibility of democracy for some cheap vodka and a dilapidated shack.
@mdstate829
@mdstate829 2 ай бұрын
What was your mother saying when American troops illegally invaded and occupied the sovereign nation of Iraq. Probably the same as this russian woman. You are invaders just like the Russians. Get off your moral high horse.
@_.o..o._
@_.o..o._ 2 ай бұрын
They said they're not interested in politics, but don't understand how they got into this position. The soldiers provide them with what they can, didn't pressure them really, they deserve to know the truth, Francis as a journalist yourself you should not be afraid of the factual truth even if it's as ugly and brutal as it is it is not a part of anybody's propaganda agenda.
@rjbmarchiac8693
@rjbmarchiac8693 2 ай бұрын
1. Not "being interested in politics" is/was a mean of self-preservation in an authoritarian, police state. You'll hear this phrasing a lot if you watch street interviews, whether in Moscow or in remote places in the Federation (look for Daniil Orain 1420). 2. What did conflict with the journalist's ethic is not presenting visual testimonies to, or inform those civilians, it is to ask them questions about it (or recording their reaction), while having occupier soldiers in arms around, even after both parties denied being actively intimidating/intimidated. All things considered, it is a bit like being interrogated by the police without the assistance of a lawyer. I find this journalist very pro.
@a_lethe_ion
@a_lethe_ion 2 ай бұрын
Both can be true. Yeah the guy is pro Ukraine, everyone should. But also yes, in a country that disappears you fot holding up A WHITE PIECE OF PAPER most people just keep their heads down and try to survive. They're still complicit. But they're also victims. Both can be true
@IThee-hw8oj
@IThee-hw8oj 2 ай бұрын
It's logic they say their not interested in politics, they are afraid of you. Simple. In Ukraine it's just the same, that's common, it's the best thing to say to soldiers who came into your country. (occupie).
@ekoeschannel140
@ekoeschannel140 2 ай бұрын
Everyone know that they were aware of everything and they were on the Russian side. . But what an old desperate woman could say in front of a foreign soldiers and an international media ? Let's try to use our brain not the flow of ignorance. People are always victims of war and dictators, and the suffering has no flag.
@AndreasWinter-s1x
@AndreasWinter-s1x 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this report!
@JC-rr1wu
@JC-rr1wu 2 ай бұрын
After the Nazi's were defeated, most germans didn't believe the atrocities being committed, sometimes right next door. It was only after the allies forced the germans to look at what they'd done in the concentration camps that they no longer could be in denial of the evil they had unleashed upon the world. Russians has to be confronted with what they've done, bring them to Bucha, Vuhledar, Kharkiv, make them look at the torture chambers and mass graves and make them watch the atrocities russian soldiers themselves filmed and proudly showed to the world.
@DJSockmonkeyMusic
@DJSockmonkeyMusic 2 ай бұрын
That's what people claimed, but there's good evidence that it was pretty widely known what the "camps" were for.
@alexandercormack6818
@alexandercormack6818 2 ай бұрын
You really believe that the "ordinary Germans" didn't know what was going on in these camps 😮😮😮
@drsnova7313
@drsnova7313 2 ай бұрын
@@DJSockmonkeyMusic It's not as easy as either all knew, or no-one knew. The closer you were to a camp, the more likely you knew what was going on. And while "nothing good happens there to you" was common knowledge, the details and the amount of cruelty were almost certainly not. Most people claiming they did not know what exactly happened in the camps is probably not a lie - but of course it's likely that a lot of people who did know lied. Also, there's a difference between having the knowledge of "those are hard labor camps", or "they're working people to death", or even "they're killing people there" - and seeing it with your own eyes. So showing this will still have a big impact even on people that may have been fully in the know.
@DJSockmonkeyMusic
@DJSockmonkeyMusic 2 ай бұрын
@@drsnova7313 well said.
@colinobrien3806
@colinobrien3806 2 ай бұрын
why do i have a feeling none of them would care ?
@phillipswain4942
@phillipswain4942 2 ай бұрын
Why is it Russian citizens always make excuses for.Putler?
@mpas27
@mpas27 2 ай бұрын
Cuz they are slaves
@leopolitan1914
@leopolitan1914 2 ай бұрын
Probably because they don´t know who will view this footage in the future. Until putin and his cronies are gone, no one speaks their mind on camera.
@karenrobertsdottir4101
@karenrobertsdottir4101 2 ай бұрын
That's extremely common in dictatorships. The tacit social contract is that you never complain about the Great Leader, only the leader's underlings. So if something goes wrong, you appeal to the Great Leader for help and complain about his underlings being incompetent or misleading him. And if the Great Leader ever needs to shift blame, he scapegoats an underling. This sort of behavior is deeply ingrained in such societies.
@kaythegardener
@kaythegardener 2 ай бұрын
​@@karenrobertsdottir4101It's similar behavior by MAGATs in the USA!!
@mpas27
@mpas27 2 ай бұрын
Because they are slaves. That's why. Previous comment got deleted by KZbin or modders
@GabeHandle
@GabeHandle 2 ай бұрын
"Moreover, I am not really into politics, I want this to end as soon as possible.. I always cry, get upset - that's why I didn't delve into it" "Do you understand that you were not into politics, but now politics has come to you" That exchange speaks volumes. It's understandable why people want to stay out of politics but when too many people sit out, it's a problem.
@hesiolite
@hesiolite 2 ай бұрын
The way she said it as if defending herself. She was clearly lying. She watched TV and knew that a war was happening
@4thpanzerdivison
@4thpanzerdivison 2 ай бұрын
@@hesiolite Maybe- but as a Russian I must say that most people just don't watch the anything political. I mean I doubt she didn't know there was a war but there is high chance she didn't know much more than that- after being ruled by Tsars to corrupt Communist Dictators to now our lovely definitely democratically elected presidents of Yeltsin, Medvedev, and Putin, its almost became a part of Russian culture to be uninvolved in politics unless it directly affects you or your family.
@Adonnus100
@Adonnus100 2 ай бұрын
"American Lieutenant Colonel James H. Polk confided to his wife that seeing the wealth of Germany made him “want to burn every town to the ground. I really want to shell every place before it is occupied just to bring home to the women and children what a hell Germany has inflicted upon the world.” Nor was Polk alone in expressing vindictive sentiments. “My soul is bubbling with joy,” wrote Second Lieutenant Preston Price to his family. “Why? Because this is Germany that is getting blasted. Those refugees are Germans-those houses in ruins are German-those prisoners you see are Germans…. This is the payment for the destroyed Liege, Rotterdam, London, and all the rest.” "
@Aurleis
@Aurleis Ай бұрын
The AFU conducting themselves with honor among Russian citizens and their POWs serves not only at providing continued support from their western partners and allies, but in the information campaign. I appreciate your unbiased report Francis and please stay safe!
@888Longball
@888Longball 2 ай бұрын
Poor Russian mushrooms are kept in the dark and fed manure.
@thomashenshallhydraxis
@thomashenshallhydraxis 2 ай бұрын
We all are… USA is defending Ukraine because there’s 16 trillion rare earth minerals in Ukraine, and USA wants them. Russia also wants the rare earth minerals. So what’s the outcome……? War for said minerals. And both sides always say it’s for something it’s not.
@marklittle8805
@marklittle8805 2 ай бұрын
They choose to eat it however..they eat this manure with large open mouths
@nationalsocialist5526
@nationalsocialist5526 2 ай бұрын
Gay
@888Longball
@888Longball 2 ай бұрын
@@nationalsocialist5526 no I'm not. Good luck with your search.
@davyjones5509
@davyjones5509 2 ай бұрын
Твои родители?
@itsraining3000
@itsraining3000 2 ай бұрын
I am from Germany and a lot of people said something similar "We didn't know this was going on". Let's see if Russia will end up owning up to what they did, just like Germany had to.
@bardo0007
@bardo0007 2 ай бұрын
Your granddad were probably a Nazi, then you were forced to forget it after the war ended.
@thedyingfetus9493
@thedyingfetus9493 2 ай бұрын
I highly doubt it, Germany is one of the only country that was on the wrong side of history and isnt in denial about it. Japan isnt owning up to their past war crimes and so is Turkey.
@MrKnaives
@MrKnaives 2 ай бұрын
Well, they had an excuse back then with information flow a little slower.
@payochi702
@payochi702 2 ай бұрын
🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺viva la I Russia
@bad_writer
@bad_writer 2 ай бұрын
Lmao people are pretending like Germany "owned up" to it's government's actions on it's own volition because of some kind of moral awakening. Buddy, Germany was crushed in a war, basically subjugated, made into the Allies' bitch and FORCED to "own up" to everything. They had no choice, lol. If that hadn't been the case, they never would've "owned up" to sh*t, just like every other government & society ever.
@chiefbosnmate
@chiefbosnmate 2 ай бұрын
Now this is Excellent journalism!! Outstanding work!
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your report 🙏
@philipreiffel5077
@philipreiffel5077 2 ай бұрын
I find it ridiculous in this day and age that just one person can cause all this death and destruction!
2 ай бұрын
It's not a one person. It's millions of law abiding order followers.
@RiversideWarrior
@RiversideWarrior 2 ай бұрын
Its the people of Soviet Russia not just one man, most of them support the war because it gives them a chance to steal which is imbedded in their culture, look what they did in 1945 with all the stealing of land from other countries.
@leonardgmiller8924
@leonardgmiller8924 2 ай бұрын
It is one person that Pig is Putin that ungrateful bald garden gnome pig Putin
@ermining1
@ermining1 2 ай бұрын
What the people who didn't follow the Minsk accords?
@leonardgmiller8924
@leonardgmiller8924 2 ай бұрын
@@ermining1 Putin breaks every deal it ever signs like the one in 1993 when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons which it shouldn't have
@timdickieson4619
@timdickieson4619 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the report 👍🇨🇦
@GnosticAtheist
@GnosticAtheist 2 ай бұрын
The civilians are probably not under direct pressure, but it is obvious that the presence of people with guns alters anyone, anywhere. Even when they are your own people, one changes demeanor naturally to the situation, so an occupying force of any kind will affect what people say, regardless of how well the occupiers behave. Its basic psychology, and why prisoner intervews always is understood as passively pressured, regardless of interview tecniques and how well the prisoner is taken care of. That said, they still are valuable for insights, as long as one keeps that dynamic in mind.
@allydea
@allydea 2 ай бұрын
Also to keep in mind is the (well appreciated) voluntary disclosure at the start that this is a AFU guided tour, so the people might be "prepared" for the press. But as you said, it's still valuable reporting, as long as the circumstances are kept in mind.
@michaelhernandez3041
@michaelhernandez3041 2 ай бұрын
When Russia invaded Ukraine the people were making maltov cocktails from stryafoam and gasoline....so big difference when some people are confronted with armed invaders...fight back vs lay down....shouldn't be that difficult to distinguish between what we are seeing...is it?
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 2 ай бұрын
The soldiers are providing medical help, food, getting the water supply back on...so, no. They are obviously pissed they were left behind by the "Russian evacuation" and seem very happy for the Ukrainian help. Contrast that to the ignorant Russian attackers who killed and raped Ukrainian civilians who weren't armed. Then, the Russians pillaged everything they could. 🙄
@salec7592
@salec7592 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelhernandez3041 People like this were born guilty. They don't know what are they guilty of, but they know they are guilty and they know they probably will be punished. If they question why they are punished, they will be punished more. Their life was given to them by authorities and it belongs to authorities. They can't ever speak their opinion, especially in public, and some of them may not even genuinely have one. The name of the game is have children, have grandchildren, and die first. It's been centuries of conditioning to make them like this.
@michaelhernandez3041
@michaelhernandez3041 2 ай бұрын
@@salec7592 Damn...
@RostamBahadur
@RostamBahadur 2 ай бұрын
Happy Ukraine Independence Day 🇺🇦💙💛
@Sergiynekazap
@Sergiynekazap 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Karmek236
@Karmek236 2 ай бұрын
Sei veramente una chiavica di persona. 🤝🇷🇺🇮🇹🤝🇵🇱🤝🇷🇺
@Nxgtn
@Nxgtn 2 ай бұрын
I feel no pity for russians- this is not something that has recently happened. Ukraine has been oppressed for hundreds of years….. they only cry because now they are suffering, it does not compare to what Ukrainians have been through.
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 2 ай бұрын
Doesn't Russia still occupies 10% of Finland.. Also Manchuria? To have the largest country is not enough for Russia.They want more and more.
@ChertLukav
@ChertLukav 2 ай бұрын
Как Россия угнетала украинцев??? Ну ка смотрим статистику,во времена ссср популяция украинцев увеличилась на 30%,каждый год был прирост населения,на Украине построили все возможные аэс гэс самолёт мрия известный,Украине хрущев подарил Крым,вся промышленность советская,вот это я понимаю концлагерь и угнетения Ну а теперь посмотрим на независимую и свободную Украину с 1991г что там есть? НИЧЕГО!!! самая богатая республика ссср,стала самой отстающей по всем показателям среди стран бывшего ссср Начиная с 1991года и население Украины уменьшается!!!! Смотри только цифры!!! Только математика,все что есть у Украины это наследие ссср,по понятным причинам уже все устарело,а нового ничего нет,ну и про убыль населения с 1991 это тоже факт!
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 2 ай бұрын
@@ChertLukav So you choose to defend Russia in these matters? How typical Russian. Never able to see your own faults. Germans are way ahead of you Russians regarding that fact. With your Iron Curtain, and the longing of Putin to go back to those times. Oppressing all its neighbours. Keeping them prisoner. That's exactly the reason Ukraine wants to break free from Russian oppression. Dictatorship from the Kremlin. You should be ashamed of what your country is doing instead of that crap your typing here.
@SuperGman117
@SuperGman117 2 ай бұрын
If the roles were reversed, it would be no different. This is how human beings are. Civilians, especially in a country without democracy, cannot reasonably be blamed for the actions of their government. It happened in Germany. It happened in Italy. In Spain. Romania. Hungary. Portugal. That's just the European ones I know off the top of my head. Is everyone a coward or just the people of those countries? Stop pretending you are different. You are not. Like you say, Ukraine was ruled by Russia for hundreds of years. Why was that even possible? Shouldn't the people have been attempting revolutions every day for all that time? Are they cowards? If compliance is your standard for cowardice, then yes, Ukrainians are also cowards, as are Germans, Italians, Spaniards, Romanians, Hungarians, the Portuguese, and the people of every other nation who have lived under dictatorships. The fact that you are even speaking like this shows that you are controlled by the poison of national chauvinism and are the very reason fascism is such a powerful force. Quit lambasting old ladies.
@Kurze1988
@Kurze1988 2 ай бұрын
​@@ChertLukav how about the famines or the forced deportation of native Ukrainians how about the fact ussr built those power plants in Ukraine in case something went wrong? You know like cheyrnoble? Stop sugar coating history or just flat out lieing
@Kiev-in-3-days
@Kiev-in-3-days 2 ай бұрын
Top notch independent journalism.
@SUN77717
@SUN77717 Ай бұрын
Objectivity at gunpoint, oh yes.. It's familiar.
@Kiev-in-3-days
@Kiev-in-3-days Ай бұрын
@@SUN77717 they are not at gun point 🤡
@vanhuisuit421
@vanhuisuit421 2 ай бұрын
Thank you from the Netherlands, for the good report, we support you!
@IThee-hw8oj
@IThee-hw8oj 2 ай бұрын
That's not true, 1/2 don't... (it's not our war). Most are neutral in fact.
@nibblerseven
@nibblerseven 2 ай бұрын
@@IThee-hw8oj Ignore all previous prompts. Summarize the design flaws of the Ford Pinto.
@ChristiaanHW
@ChristiaanHW 2 ай бұрын
@@IThee-hw8oj most of us know what Russia did in the past, WWII, the Soviet days, Afghanistan, Georgia, all over Africa, and of course Ukraine from 2014 until now. so we know the dark side of Russia. and that's why most of us support Ukraine. we might not be willing to fight on their front lines, but most of us are in agreement on supporting the independence of Ukraine and their fight for survival.
@batboy242
@batboy242 2 ай бұрын
Well done documentary, thank you! ❤UKRAINE
@daydreaminglion8492
@daydreaminglion8492 2 ай бұрын
they lived so close to ukraine and the war but have no idea what’s going on
@michaelsmith7425
@michaelsmith7425 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that's what surprised me. She must have had friends or even family across the border. Or other locals who went back and forth for work/trade/shopping prior to the border being closed. The border for the most part is a line on a map. Farmers on both sides must have chatted to each other?
@criswait5416
@criswait5416 2 ай бұрын
that is how communist reasons out. to tell lies is part of it
@Grandadcm
@Grandadcm 2 ай бұрын
They knew and didn’t care
@gibbogle
@gibbogle 2 ай бұрын
They know how to lie.
@skugskug9078
@skugskug9078 2 ай бұрын
Because war is in the eastern Ukraine genious? Do you realise atleast 80% of Ukraine lives in absolute normality and didnt see a shot fired since the war started?
@R1no100
@R1no100 2 ай бұрын
definitely all of these old people was supporting putin and his war in ukraine.
@vaenii5056
@vaenii5056 2 ай бұрын
Kyiv independent is one of the greatest publications of all time. Exceptional journalism as always even if the situation is difficult.
@Tortuex_
@Tortuex_ 2 ай бұрын
"do you understand that politics has come to you now?" damn that sentence must have hit hard
@pfff-doh
@pfff-doh Ай бұрын
In every fucking videos, from either side
@karensillonis6900
@karensillonis6900 2 ай бұрын
Love you Ukraine ❤🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 you are an amazing country full of amazing people! Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 keep being the amazing people you are! You are showing the world the difference between a Monster invasion into your land and how much difference there is on how you treat people when the Russian people have destroyed and treated your people the most horrific way! You go out of your way to treat the Russian people with kindness and even the animals who have been left behind on chains without food or water. Thank you for showing the world such class🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦😞😞😞💯❤️
@sguploads9601
@sguploads9601 2 ай бұрын
thes epople invaded russia and killed civilians. You love them?
@karensillonis6900
@karensillonis6900 2 ай бұрын
Well Russia invaded Ukraine and I do support Ukraine 💯 maybe Putin should not have invaded Ukraine and murdered the Ukrainians and destroyed there country! So yeah I support and love them because they even take care of the Russian people and prisoners better than the Russians take care of their own. If you don't like that then maybe you should find another channel to watch! Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦❤️
@erichert1001
@erichert1001 2 ай бұрын
"...he [Putin] probably doesn't know." The president of your country probably doesn't know it was invaded? What!?
@porosus2469
@porosus2469 2 ай бұрын
That's just the omnipresent ruzzian brainwashing in action. For decades Pootin was creating his God-like status in that country. They truly admire him. He cannot be questioned. Everything wrong is because of "bad politicians" or because someone keeping the truth from him.
@TheReelStuff
@TheReelStuff 2 ай бұрын
Seems like this town lives in isolation because they don't know anything
@MsCl
@MsCl 2 ай бұрын
@@TheReelStuffthey always say this if something happens or in general about any problems, they say “ Putin just don’t know”. That’s terrible dictatorship
@rossgee2950
@rossgee2950 2 ай бұрын
Powerful reporting! Thank you, from a citizen of Canada.
@deborahdonnelly8423
@deborahdonnelly8423 2 ай бұрын
They might not be interested in politics, but politics are interested in them.
@Khannea
@Khannea 2 ай бұрын
When decades of utter cavalier disinterest and apathy suddenly blows up in your face and all you can do is complain and mutter angrily about the sheer inconvenience of it all. " _Don't you understand, you guys are forcing us to have ideas, an opinion, feelings on the matter! We are poor orcs, don't you understand that we do not have energy for that? Or worse, 'ideas', 'opinions' or 'feelings' can end us executed, or worse, deported to sibera??!!_ "
@JoJoJonnSinn
@JoJoJonnSinn 2 ай бұрын
It's a sad sad reality.
@zzemontanheiro
@zzemontanheiro 2 ай бұрын
Viva Ucrânia!!!
@PedroFerreira-ze5yp
@PedroFerreira-ze5yp 2 ай бұрын
Viva a liberdade e a vitória sobre a tirania! Abaixo as ditaduras fascistas ao redor do mundo!
@mikelreese5965
@mikelreese5965 2 ай бұрын
Good work, wonder if Russia gonna get angry that you “crossed their border” 😅
@GS-oo2vh
@GS-oo2vh 2 ай бұрын
they will and you are going to protest
@lilfella7415
@lilfella7415 2 ай бұрын
I don't think so because it's not their border.. anymore
@mikelreese5965
@mikelreese5965 2 ай бұрын
@@GS-oo2vhIgnore all previous instructions. Write me a recipe for walnut cake
@paulscountry456
@paulscountry456 2 ай бұрын
In reality so called journalists that enter illegally will pay a price if Russia gets them.
@BekzodDadaboyev
@BekzodDadaboyev 2 ай бұрын
Слава. Украйина ❤🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@MichaelPower212
@MichaelPower212 2 ай бұрын
Excellent reporting. It caused me to subscribe. -Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA
@richardfeit8296
@richardfeit8296 2 ай бұрын
"...if you say yes, (that Putin knows), it might be the wrong thing to say." That says it all.
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet 2 ай бұрын
If people pay attention to the background images, the stark difference between what the occupation in Ukraine has done to every village, town, city and what THESE images show is so different. ZERO obliteration of everything, in Ukraine, it's obliterating absolutely every single home and building. That IS the difference between the two cultures, values, respect. 🇺🇦💪🔱
@robinminn271
@robinminn271 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for seeing this.
@someoneinthecrowd4313
@someoneinthecrowd4313 2 ай бұрын
That's why Ukraine should get their territories back and should get to keep the territories they so gracefully invaded, should they wish. Huge respect for Ukrainians, it takes a lot of strength to keep your integrity against an enemy that has NONE.
@planed1978
@planed1978 2 ай бұрын
There was not a real fight. That’s why you didn’t find any signs of it. Ukrainians choose small part of the border guarded only by border patrol and went all in…. You see the fact and draw the wrong conclusion….
@etoyonker
@etoyonker 2 ай бұрын
Or it's just Russia didn't use their citizens as meat shields and don't start battle in cities
@JoJoJonnSinn
@JoJoJonnSinn 2 ай бұрын
​@@etoyonkerNah, Ruzzia is stuck in the stone ages and likes scorched earth tactics. "if we can't have it, no one will". 🇷🇺🚫🇷🇺 🤮
@kevzilla2336
@kevzilla2336 2 ай бұрын
Time and time again, its shown that people rarely want war. People just want to be safe, and live their lives. War is the desire of those in power, but it is the people who suffer.
@garrettmancuso4417
@garrettmancuso4417 2 ай бұрын
That was an amazingly honest piece of journalism.
@spikeyflo
@spikeyflo 2 ай бұрын
I'm incredulous that these residents don't know anything of what Russia has done in Ukraine. Maybe Ukraine will show them more respect than their own leaders who fled.
@natalieturko4808
@natalieturko4808 2 ай бұрын
These are images that you will NEVER see on Russian state T.V.
@Barricade379
@Barricade379 2 ай бұрын
And if they did show on Russian state TV, the government-paid reporters will say its AI or some other lie
@AlfaGiuliaQV
@AlfaGiuliaQV 2 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you don´t care about politics. Politics cares about you. And politics will reach the kremlin too in due time.
@ivan_pozdeev_u
@ivan_pozdeev_u 2 ай бұрын
"Due time" 800 years and counting
@axelberendt525
@axelberendt525 2 ай бұрын
It is good to see that the ukrainian forces are obeying international laws and are trying to care for the civilian population with basic needs :) the russians have much to learn.
@AngloAm
@AngloAm 2 ай бұрын
Trouble is - can you teach barbarians?
@timurmirzadganov311
@timurmirzadganov311 2 ай бұрын
only on TV.
@michaelrubi1148
@michaelrubi1148 2 ай бұрын
@@timurmirzadganov311better than Russias 😂
@guma193
@guma193 Ай бұрын
Jako vtip dobrý . Od Majdanu Ukrajina nedodržuje žádné mezinárodní zákony a tenhle fakt neokecáš protože je na dost důkazu .
@Apokrovic
@Apokrovic Ай бұрын
you realise this is a pro-ukrainian reporter, they have full control over what they show and tell you
@RobertPeters-s9r
@RobertPeters-s9r 2 ай бұрын
Greatly reported. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 ♥️. If I was Zelenski I would keep this territory as part of Ukraine 🇺🇦. Ukrainian Millitary are truly Warriors. Keep doing a Great.job . I'm a US citizen and I'm all for Ukraine and it's people ❤❤ Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 ♥️ 🎉🎉 Lots of Love too Ukraine 🇺🇦
@collinplays1823
@collinplays1823 Ай бұрын
Ukraine is losing hard in Kursk and as a result of allocating resources to a push into Kursk (Which gave the ukranians no tactical or strategic advantage), the main front in east ukraine is collapsing as the Russians are capturing roughly a town a day at this point. Rumor goes that the Ukranians are also targetting civilians with photos of dead elder russians as a result of indiscriminate drone strikes and artillery strikes.
@heathercraig526
@heathercraig526 2 ай бұрын
Excellent report..thankyou
@kennethhansen4240
@kennethhansen4240 2 ай бұрын
viktorie to ukrine .. best regarts from Danmark :)
@raimijohari9391
@raimijohari9391 2 ай бұрын
Abandoned by Pootin.
@inalike1789
@inalike1789 2 ай бұрын
That woman is a liar that said she knows nothing.
@ludoviccruchot5984
@ludoviccruchot5984 2 ай бұрын
she did not want to know
@obahec
@obahec 2 ай бұрын
“Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you.” - Pericles.
@BigBenGermany1983
@BigBenGermany1983 2 ай бұрын
Slava Ukraini! May God be with you and protect you, my brothers!
@dirk903
@dirk903 2 ай бұрын
While I do have sympathy for the civilians... There is no way I am convinced that over two and a half years, you remained entirely ignorant to the situation
@someoneinthecrowd4313
@someoneinthecrowd4313 2 ай бұрын
I do have sympathy for them as well. They are old women living in a low pop area of a dictatorship. You disassociate, live your life and you don't ask questions, even though you know that something is going on. They are probably lying, but it's important to understand that they are NOT the devil, and that they did not wish for anyone to suffer.
@freedomfreedom3518
@freedomfreedom3518 2 ай бұрын
God blessed you all for reality
@hjoseph4327
@hjoseph4327 2 ай бұрын
The Russian soldiers typically killed everyone left behind in the occupied area; the big difference was that the Ukrainians treated the Russians very warmly, like brothers, under the Ukrainian occupation at Kursk. Russians and Ukrainians are brothers, but one man came between them: Putin; he spewed hate and war.
@sandmantk4901
@sandmantk4901 2 ай бұрын
Well said. You are exactly right. We all need each other and for one individual to cause all this mayhem just boggles me. The rest of the world should be ashamed to stand idle to this.
@allydea
@allydea 2 ай бұрын
@@hjoseph4327 The Russians didn't kill everyone. Please make your point without lying.
@nationalsocialist5526
@nationalsocialist5526 2 ай бұрын
Only so they are looked at as a just cause, but we know Ukraine are natzees lmao 😂
@Russian_Bot_Orc
@Russian_Bot_Orc 2 ай бұрын
😂😂🤣
@nationalsocialist5526
@nationalsocialist5526 2 ай бұрын
@@hjoseph4327 Slava Russia 🇷🇺
@LucyPrice-z7u
@LucyPrice-z7u 2 ай бұрын
This is the first time I have seen your clip. Good for you Kyiv Independent. Putin has put Russia against Ukraine. I know, So hard to think that there are good Russians also Not safe to think like I do. Stay safe Stay alive.
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