Facing A DJI FPV Ban? DJI O3 Air Unit Range Is A Solution!

[@Jpilgrim30]

Thankfully they finally made the goggles 3 compatible with the o3 air unit. Now I can fly my mini 4 pro with them and convert my analog quads to o3!

[@RobertDunaway]

Great flight! Thanks for the comments and for the sacrifice - glad you found your drone!

[@Phoenix.-]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. We are lucky that we got to the quad before even the battery ran out. 😊

[@PavelMy]

And why do you have 20 mBps from the start?reducing the frequency band, increasing the range?

[@F15UA]

Amazing test, bro🤝. Very intetesting what Integra can do on stock antennas! I have integra as well

[@BarretoFPV]

Woww amazing! Very impressive result. Interesting how the vtx signal doesn't decrease linearly over distance.

[@kutabareseniorita6036]

I'm basing that on the near 30 min recording on the display. Even though vid is only 8 min

[@SaltySpaceKitten]

Amazing performance, thank you for sharing that experience :)

[@zedsian]

Damn. Great job dude. Few days ago i managed 8.2 km for the first time and i was sooo stocked. Keep it up with the LR

[@Phoenix.-]

Thank you. I did this test because we are planning to do a take of a peak that's nearly 13kms away, so I wasn't sure whether the 12.5km limit is also a thing for the DJI O3 on stock settings, fortunately that's now a thing of the past.

[@_deeemz_]

So are you using the LHCP version of the Antennas? Because I thought they won’t work so well with the stock integra antenna? At least that’s what I understood from trying to figure out what antennas to buy for my long range build. It would help me a lot if you use the lhcp version, I’d simply buy the same ones

[@gregdavidd]

I love your battery setup. Did you build those yourself? How do you connect the batteries when they're end-to-end like that? Ive built lots of lions and i want to make some of these.

[@AlanFPV-CH]

Hi Phoenix What is or how do you change to max output power? i never found a changing option on the O3 unit. Cheers

[@joaquin293]

Hi! You say you have the stock antennas, but in the video I don't see the original antenna that comes with the O3, which ones are you using? I have my O3 + Integra mounted on a plane and the maximum range I got was 4km (I'm in Argentina but I did the FCC hack too). The glasses are set to auto, I'll try using the 20mhz band like you and see how it goes.

[@Flying_Wild_Boar]

Love all Yours videos, thank you for sharing knowledge

[@Phoenix.-]

Music to our ears, thanks a lot!

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Great test, impressive results. Curious if 50mbps mode would be better, that’s what I’ve been testing lately. Or did you chose 25mbps for a reason? I’ll have to do some testing with which soon. Thanks for sharing cheers! p.s. This ban is only in the USA so far, so doesn’t affect us yet.

[@Phoenix.-]

Thanks man. As far as the 50Mhz vs 20Mhz debate, I prefer the 20Mhz because it's easier for me to know when the connection is about to drop off - it drops off between 1 mbps and 0 mbps. Whereas on the on the 50Mhz setting it has done so between 15 mbps and 5 mbps (I haven't see a 1 or a 0 mbps so far) in the same area. As far as range in concerned, I'm not sure which one could be considered better - I couldn't even reach the max range of this current setting in this test. 🙂

[@Phoenix.-]

On the DJI ban: since our community is borderless, if one subsection of the community is affected, then the entire community is also affected: (there will be fewer product reviews, fewer tests and less revenue for DJI to make more awesome products) it limits our knowledge base. Also at the moment: whenever US legislates the rest of the western world follows; (that was true for 5G and Huawei) unfortunately it's only just a matter of time before the decoupling hits us too given the current trajectory.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@Phoenix.- good information, I’ll have to do some tests with 25mbps mode. * Regarding USA ban, I agree with your thoughts below, definitely an impact on the community and the rest of the world may follow. Whether you like DJI or not, most agree they make the best drone products and have set the industry standard.

[@prontosinistri2939]

hi , what antennas did you use for the o3?

[@pilotndablek]

steady, got 14.8m, perfect and until it fell less than 2km , I have also covered 15.1km using analog FPV

[@Phoenix.-]

Nice! Was that with or without antenna upgrades?

[@pilotndablek]

@@Phoenix.- I use a VTX rushmax solo 2.5 with an ORT Pagoda antenna

[@Phoenix.-]

@@pilotndablek that's some power you've got there.

[@pilotndablek]

@@Phoenix.- Thank you my brother🤩👍🙏

[@Lorenzo.Rizzuto]

​@@pilotndablek can you link me your antenna? you think we can have better than pagoda?

[@X862go]

How do you get so far ?

[@lemonoid6156]

That is craaaazy!!!!! I am looking forward to the next video when you have a bigger battery. What do you think how much km`s you can squeeze out of this air unit? I never saw so much. Some already find the limit at 6-10 km. I myself have never dared to go out more than 4.5 km 😅 I am too afraid.

[@Phoenix.-]

I think, without Antenna upgrades 18-20 should be possible on a good day.

[@smithe68]

@@Phoenix.-I’ve seen some tests in the past of almost 25km with DJI O3, sadly they were taken down. I’ve personally done 16km on a fixed wing with O3 and stock antennas and still had strong signal. I think your 18-20 is very likely to be doable on stock antennas but after that 🤷🏻‍♂️ Great test!

[@unixoid33]

how can you keep so low altitude, and not loosing video signal?

[@Phoenix.-]

The area was a bit of a valley so I was standing on higher ground - somewhat, flying towards lower ground.

[@christianmong-hansen1835]

hi buddy ! great flight. do you use manual mode in 20 mhz ? your mbps looks kind of low. have 10-13 mbps at 22-23 km out with dji 03 on my helion, and 28-29 mbps at 8-10 km out.

[@Phoenix.-]

Hi Christian When I fly long range, I find signal strength to be immaterial : I believe as long as you have connection, keep going until you're in constant red. :-)

[@MrTnnr]

@@Phoenix.- So do you just stay in auto channel mode? I did the fcc hack and am getting 8km but when it started turning red i turned back thinking i'd lose signal soon. Still not sure if I should stay in auto channel mode or select a certain channel

[@VogxelFPV]

What bandwidth were you using? 40mhz? 20? 10? Or auto mode

[@robertveres6735]

Same question here cause I loose signal after 300 meter 😢

[@Phoenix.-]

For this one I used 20 mhz.

[@VogxelFPV]

@@Phoenix.- does using lower bandwith get you better range?

[@Phoenix.-]

@@VogxelFPV : One thing that`s for sure it that it gives you better reliability at range: it is quicker to reconnect if you loose VTX signal.

[@Phoenix.-]

@@robertveres6735 Loosing signal after 300 meters means there is something wrong with your equipment. I would check the antennas and particularly the U.FL connectors.

[@swissfpvshots]

Stolze Distanz! Mit oder ohne FCC Hack auf der Brille?

[@Phoenix.-]

Full power immer! ich glaube ich bin noch nie ohne geflogen :-) Danke dir.

[@youtubejack]

What battery is that. 6s1p? Dunno where to find..

[@Phoenix.-]

That was 3x 4000mah li-ions connected externally in parallel, giving a total of 12000mah.

[@F15UA]

Very impressive!

[@Phoenix.-]

Has anyone also experienced the OSD latency as I did in this test? As you may have seen The 15km mark was reached 14 secs after I had already turned and on the way back. The home arrow does does not respond until after 14 secs. This could be a problem at such distance if you start flying in the wrong direction out of your signal's path.

[@InfinityDrones]

I think that was a crossfire problem. Might have been due to both being mounted horizontally and not having one vertically. Just a thought. Try enabling RSSI DBM as its a much better indicator of signal strength than LQ. Also remember that telemetry from your RX is might be set to a certain value. Like with ExpressLRS you can set your packet rate and telemetry rate as well as your output power. All info not shared in your OSD.

[@Phoenix.-]

@@InfinityDrones Vertical Vs Horizontal mounting maybe something to look into, I looked at one of my old flights with such a config I only had about 2 seconds at 10 km. My hunch was maybe on 20Mhz vs 50Mzh config in the VTX.

[@Lorenzo.Rizzuto]

​​@@InfinityDrones do you use dynamic range? or set at max always?

[@InfinityDrones]

@@Lorenzo.Rizzuto I use dynamic because I don't always fly long range

[@Lorenzo.Rizzuto]

@@InfinityDrones and if you know you have to goo far, set at max?

[@seb-depp]

15 km! I thought there was a hard limit at 13. Can't you use RTH for the "black hole"?

[@Phoenix.-]

Hi Seb I think the hard limit was reset at some point through an update, I cannot tell you which one exactly. On the RTH part, If I had invoked RTH the quad would have flown directly over the village you see to the right as I land, given the low battery voltage, who knows what may happen.

[@CarbonSix.]

@@Phoenix.- good decision; safety first.

[@RichardAFPV]

the 13km limit was the original FPV system. The 03 has a tested range to 23km.

[@seb-depp]

@@Phoenix.- Understandable

[@seb-depp]

@@RichardAFPV Good to know, thanks.

[@robertotisani3057]

ai un gran coraggio complimenti grande🙌🙌💪

[@Phoenix.-]

Grazie mille! :-)

[@chrisbee5481]

Tmotor 7.5 props?

[@Phoenix.-]

Indeed: they are the best for the heavy battery load (1.3kg)

[@kutabareseniorita6036]

How did you fly for so long?

[@Phoenix.-]

Hi, thanks, seniorita 🙂. With the a bigger battery I have the feeling you can go even further with O3 system. In this flight the battery was the limitation at 12.000 mAh.

[@A.HamidMohdMasri]

Was the altitude correct?

[@Phoenix.-]

Hi Hamid, The altitude was correct most of the time except when I was about to turn back, (15km mark) at that point I didn't gain any altitude at all but the telemetry showed otherwise.

[@DrEvil-yx4vr]

with better Antennas we already get a litte more than 23km!

[@sdfsdf421df]

what are your better antennas?

[@DrEvil-yx4vr]

@ thats the one i use Foxeer Lollipop 4 Plus 16cm u.FL Tube RHCP

[@sdfsdf421df]

@DrEvil-yx4vr thank you!

[@DrEvil-yx4vr]

@@sdfsdf421df your welcome, but i made a mistake. You nerd thise antennas LHCP

[@sdfsdf421df]

@@DrEvil-yx4vr I have integra, dont remember if it is l or r# but i will check myself twice again before buying for sure ;) But so far I have just nazgul 5, so maybe I should start with chimera or smth equivallent from other brand before buying lr anntenaes :)

[@BigKahunaFPV]

Wenn mich einer fragt wie weit die Reichweite ist dann sage ich immer nur der Akku ist das Limit😅. Auf jeden Fall sehr unterhaltsam das Video. Beste Grüße 💪

[@thirdpartycookie]

Nee, es gibt ein Hard Limit bei der O3 , 23km

[@Phoenix.-]

Dankeschön! 😊

[@RCWolfFPV]

why 25mbps?

[@Phoenix.-]

I have not tested the difference to the others but I'm just used to 25

[@nomercyriding]

So the solution to a ban on DJI drones is another DJI product? Why wont this O3 unit be banned as well?

[@liebrechtjr11]

No rfid in O3’s… so they can’t track you!

[@Phoenix.-]

I assumed buying new DJI products is what you should be able to do if you like their products? The O3 system is already certified so if you have one now it should be good.

[@nomercyriding]

Ok I see. The O3 unit won't be banned. Thanks 👍

[@KokaKuku]

I hope with this ban the dji hardware prices will go down for the rest of the world because the usa is the dji no.1 profits. I've been dreaming to buy dji product for a long time already 😂.

[@Phoenix.-]

I'm afraid that could be just temporary before they adjust their production to the new market reality, but I hope by then you would have found the good deal. 🙂

[@CarbonSix.]

Talk about range on roids, I've seen pilots beat their chests with just 6km, good work.

[@Phoenix.-]

😉👍

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Haha, I literally posted a 7km range test yesterday which I was pretty happy about! However I was just testing different antennas (still had around 40mbps!), it wasn’t a max range test.

[@ArielFPV26]

Jajaja que loco