The Rolling Stones’ Doomed Genius

[@j.w.3345]

Charlie Watts had the decency to go to his funeral. He was always a class act.

[@blitzplix01]

I always like Charlie. He was stoic, even-tempered, and pure business business.

[@agbobier2657]

He sure was

[@SuperAnimelover100]

When they got the news of Brian's death, Charlie Watts was apparently inconsolable. Charlie Watts guiltily admitted: “We took his one thing away, which was being in a a band.

[@RoyBennett-dz2cq]

So did Bill Wyman

[@erepsekahs]

I met Charlie Watts in Montreal, Canada, in (I think) 1972 or three. I chatted with him for about ten minutes. He was a real gentleman, quiet and with a good sense of humor.

[@PhyllisJette]

I agree that Charlie Watts was a classy man and I once read he regretted that Brian was thrown out of the group . Charlie Watts was the heart of The Rolling Stones and was a really decent guy ! RIP Charlie Watts - 🙏🏼 You will always be missed !

[@johnryan3913]

Charlie, Bill, and Ian Stewart all made it to the funeral. Not M and K. Brian wasn't playing guitar much anymore and was too f'd up to tour. On Beggars he plays very little guitar, plus harmonica on a couple tracks, mellotron, and sitar or shanai (?) on Street Fighting Man.

[@dondamon4669]

He didn't like him though and thought he was horrible,no one liked him not even Lennon who called him pathetic, Dylan, Hendrix, McCartney all laughed at him even Bowie who wasn't famous at the time said he was short and fat

[@johnryan3913]

@@dondamon4669 Short and fat? That's pretty disrespectful in a shallow way, Jeez.

[@johnryan3913]

@@dondamon4669 The Stones, Linda Keith and Brian especially, were instrumental in Jimi's early success. Brian went to Monterey specifically to introduce Hendrix to a huge American audience. They were friends and worked together on some E. Ladyland sessions.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@dondamon4669 Brian Jones might have been short (but then again, if memory serves, ALL of the Rolling Stones are of modest height), but he was never fat. What a feeble putdown on Bowie's part. Isn't he supposed to be the uber-clever one?

[@TheaterPup]

"Brian was a brilliant, fluent multi-instrumentalist, he was the one who founded the Rolling Stones and he had the creative vision that helped them to evolve organically from a mop-top blues-pop group into the mystical rock gods they became--something that many people today might not realise."--Mick Fleetwood

[@mnob1122]

Agree up to a point. I loved Mick Taylor. Once Mick left, replaced by Ronnie Woods, the Stones music went downhill. For me, their last good album was Exile on Main Street. All that followed, overall, was rubbish.

[@JeffRemains]

@@mnob1122Some Girls? Tattoo You? No good? Bold.

[@mnob1122]

@@JeffRemains Nope, only “Start Me Ip”.

[@ronnieron9912]

@@williardbillmore5713 The only group you ever founded was the 'I'm a BS artist with revisionist Stones history and I don't know WTF I'm talking about' club, lol.

[@williardbillmore5713]

@@ronnieron9912 I have the receipts that prove that I am correct from Brian's own words. He did not form the band or choses any of the members. He JOINED Keith's band. Brian's own words are all the evidence anyone should ever need to dispel and debunk all the myths and lies about Brian starting the band.

[@eshaawood1]

Jagger, called him manipulative, the tea pot calling the kettle black.

[@garethclark5489]

Takes one to know one sometimes

[@williardbillmore5713]

Jones was a psychopath and a manipulative malignant narcissist

[@decimated550]

@@garethclark5489 yeah but mick jagger had rock star Neanderthal energy. Poor runty Brian Jones had asthma, but chain smoked from shattered nerves, everyone knew his gf left him, he beat women...he was in over his head

[@SuperAnimelover100]

@@decimated550 Bill Wyman said this and it makes sense to me. Brian Jones` erratic and destructive behavior could have been due to serious undiagnosed medical problems. One of Jones` out-of-wedlock daughters, now in her 30s, is quoted to the effect that she suffers from epileptic symptoms that cause fits and mood swings similar to those exhibited by the father she never knew. Sounds like your speaking about Keith Richards. Stones pianist and roadie Ian Stewart had to keep a list of airlines unwilling to let the guitarist aboard, and he later revealed that Richards was banned by Alitalia 'for staying in the restroom from Rome to London, punching that crazy Anita Pallenberg. Similar outbursts would recur throughout the couple's 12-year relationship. His drug addiction was so severe that the guitarist was charged five times during those years. You say Brian was beating women ?Anita Pallenberg treated him to an uninhibited crash course in sadomasochistic sex. They moved to a pad in Chelsea which was especially soundproofed, though not enough to muffle the crack of her whip. Did you read what George Harrison said about him and lots of UK musicians ? Brian Jones to me is the BEST. George Harrisons words, When I met [Brian Jones] I liked him quite a lot. He was a good fellow, you know. I got to know him very well, I think, and I felt very close to him; you know how it is with some people, you feel for them, feel near them. He was born February 28, 1943, and I was born on February 25, 1943, and he was with Mick and Keith and I was with John and Paul in the groups, so there was a sort of understanding between the two of us. The positions were similar, and I often seemed to meet him in his times of trouble. There was nothing the matter with him that a little extra love wouldn’t have cured. I don’t think he had enough love or understanding. He was very nice and sincere and sensitive, and we must remember that’s what he was.

[@SuperAnimelover100]

@@decimated550 Bill Wyman said this and it makes sense to me. Brian Jones` erratic and destructive behavior could have been due to serious undiagnosed medical problems. One of Jones` out-of-wedlock daughters, now in her 30s, is quoted to the effect that she suffers from epileptic symptoms that cause fits and mood swings similar to those exhibited by the father she never knew. Sounds like your speaking about Keith Richards. Stones pianist and roadie Ian Stewart had to keep a list of airlines unwilling to let the guitarist aboard, and he later revealed that Richards was banned by Alitalia 'for staying in the restroom from Rome to London, punching that crazy Anita Pallenberg. Similar outbursts would recur throughout the couple's 12-year relationship. His drug addiction was so severe that the guitarist was charged five times during those years. You say Brian was beating women ?Anita Pallenberg treated him to an uninhibited crash course in sadomasochistic sex. They moved to a pad in Chelsea which was especially soundproofed, though not enough to muffle the crack of her whip. Did you read what George Harrison said about him and lots of UK musicians ? Brian Jones to me is the BEST. George Harrisons words, When I met [Brian Jones] I liked him quite a lot. He was a good fellow, you know. I got to know him very well, I think, and I felt very close to him; you know how it is with some people, you feel for them, feel near them. He was born February 28, 1943, and I was born on February 25, 1943, and he was with Mick and Keith and I was with John and Paul in the groups, so there was a sort of understanding between the two of us. The positions were similar, and I often seemed to meet him in his times of trouble. There was nothing the matter with him that a little extra love wouldn’t have cured. I don’t think he had enough love or understanding. He was very nice and sincere and sensitive, and we must remember that’s what he was.

[@TheaterPup]

“Brian’s pioneering status as a musician has become steadily less obvious thanks to the very success of his mission. The blues and world music that he championed and dragged into the mainstream have become so ubiquitous that we all suffer a hindsight bias-we find it impossible to imagine what the world was like without this music. As counter-intuitive as it might seem, this is proof of Brian’s accomplishment.”-Sympathy for the Devil by Paul Trynka

[@williardbillmore5713]

I always understood that Brian's "mission" was to get as high and drunk as he possibly could every day and be totally useless to the band who made him wealthy and famous. THAT he certainly accomplished. Paul Trynka Wrote fiction.

[@williardbillmore5713]

@saynototheilluminati3247 Jones never impressed me with anything he did. He was a poser and a phoney... A psychopath and a malignant narcissist I see him for what he was, not some fiction some starry eyed fanboy wrote about him in some ridiculous book..

[@ryanjavierortega8513]

Brian is so interesting, too…dude got me re-invested in the band a few years ago, it was amazing & fun and liberating

[@neil1390]

Fun fact, when Jethro Tull played at the Rolling Stone's Rock and Roll Circus, Tommy Iommi was playing lead guitar for Tull

[@dennislockhart7678]

That was recorded...he was just pretending to play live

[@tommyturner6677]

Jethro Tull is a fairy with a flute 🪈!

[@theolschoolblues]

Oh damn!!!! I need to be watch that

[@mikeeckel2807]

When Jethro Tull played in my area in the early 70s YES was the opening act, then Black Sabbath pl!yes, and Tull was the headliner. Tony Iommi played with Sabbath AND Tull. I'm not sure if this was before Martin Barre joined Tull or if he was ill at that time.

[@mikeeckel2807]

...Tommy...

[@Mercuryrising56627]

I'm a fan of the early Rolling Stones, and that means when Brian Jones made essential musical contributions to the band. At that time you never knew how their new song would be. Which instruments would figure in them, which pre-world music vibe would be in it. I always knew that Brian Jones was the musical genius behind all that. As to drugs and all kind of rivalries, almost every group of these times was doing them.

[@SuperAnimelover100]

Brian was the person that created the Rolling Stones in the beginning. He chose the music. He chose the name. He was the leader. He signed all the recording contracts, the management contracts, all kinds of things. He would pick up an autoharp or a flute or a glockenspiel or marimbas, and he would be able to do all of that kind of stuff.” Among the other instruments Jones played were the harmonica, sitar, organ, recorder, cello, trumpet, trombone, saxophone, oboe, and, of course, guitar. He made so many records successful because of that. Jones was in fact, the original public face of the band: the surliest and sauciest in press interviews, the most nattily dressed, the most lushly coiffed… and, most importantly, the most musically diverse. “I mean, he was brilliant musically in the early days.

[@cassandraunheeded]

I don’t care. Brian was unconscious with drugs.

[@1blastman]

@@SuperAnimelover100 Which makes his passing that much more tragic. He had all the talent to go to a higher level of musical excellence, and drugged it away. Even if he was murdered, his life at that time was committed to wasting away on drugs.

[@jebrindle9380]

Sadly, Brian's drug fuelled life eventually took its toll as a useful band member. It also would have made it difficult for the band to tour in the USA.

[@SuperAnimelover100]

@@1blastman Brian seemed much happier afterwards. Alexis Korner visited him in late June 1969 and noted that "Jones was happier than he had ever been" and Brian had demoed a few of his own songs in the weeks before his death.

[@ElaineWood-f2t]

Mick Jagger and Keith Richards both had their own legal woes due to their respective drug use. Jones was no saint, but neither were Jagger and Richards. The biggest problem with these three was battling egos.

[@KarmicSalt]

no, the biggest problem is that mick and keith together are nothing short of evil. They way they treated Jones and the way they lie about him now. They forget there are people still around that know the real story.

[@jillkarlene]

Actually, Jagger wasn't a big druggie.

[@sventer198]

Uh no, the biggest problem was that Jones was no longer putting his work as a band member first nor taking anything serious. He was the only guy who kept missing practice and who our not keep it together.

[@peterbrigden2124]

When he died there was always a theory that Jagger and Richards had something to do with his drowning? Just like Robert Wagner watched why Natalie Wood drowned 🙈🙈😭😭😈😈😈

[@cassandraunheeded]

The biggest problem was that Brian was unconscious most of the time.

[@JettRink-b8k]

Don't forget Bill Wyman was a genuine good person and always true to Jones... after a while he'd have enough of Mick/Keith.

[@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw]

In the words of Keith Richards, Wyman "left the world's greatest rock band to open a fish and chip shop." Ooooh, miaaow. Bitch, much ? 1. "Sticky Fingers" wasn't a fish 'n chip shop. It was a hamburger joint. 2. In between flipping burgers, Wyman found time to start the Rhythm Kings, who play trad bluesy rockabilly with rotating brilliant guest performers. Albert Lee, Georgie Fame etc. I love their sound, but then again, I'm an old fart.

[@ElaineWood-f2t]

@MarkTyner-e8g Bill Wyman left the Stones because he was pretty much done with the lifestyle and the road. He'd made his made his money, and he said he had other things he wanted to do. Sticky Fingers was just one of the ventures he was involved in. He's written books. He's explored the archeology of his estate. He's published photo collections from his days with the Stones. He's not a one-dimensional kind of person.

[@VideoSaySo]

Robert Johnson was the first member of the 27 Club. He died in 1938.

[@user-xt8ij4wb5i]

The 27 Club is such a mundane concept. With a little research on let's say "Dead Rock Stars" you can find the 28,29, 30,31 club. I see your point, but a list doesn't always have to formed

[@williardbillmore5713]

So not only did Jones NOT found the Rolling Stones but he did not even found the 27 club either...Ha ha ha ha ha.

[@ronnieron9912]

@@williardbillmore5713 Nonsense BS. Brian started the Stones. Do better research.

[@williardbillmore5713]

@@ronnieron9912 You recite the common myth like an obedient fan, Ronnie. You need to take your own advice and truly do your own research. The facts are that after failing to start his own band Brian looked up Keith and asked him if he and Ian could join Keith's band, the Blue Boys, and Keith agreed. Would you like to hear it from Brian?

[@TheNobbynoonar]

The ‘Keith Richards’ club should be interesting. 🤪

[@TheaterPup]

“Brian Jones was indeed the father of what we now regard as world music…Brian’s championing of ethnic players such as the Moroccan Master Musicians of Joujouka back in 1967 should be regarded as groundbreaking artistic development, portents of the future.”-John Phillpott, Blues in Britain

[@andrealittle2836]

Poor Brian. Rehab could have helped him. He was the most talented.

[@garethclark5489]

Did he want to be helped though?

[@LaughingStock_]

Talented what? Songs are where it counts.

[@ronnieron9912]

@@LaughingStock_ You =Clueless.

[@TheaterPup]

@@LaughingStock_ "It’s a knack whether you can juggle or write a song. It’s not something that’s a spontaneous thing. What Brian did, and people seem to forget, is that Brian then would rule the studio. He would come up with how to fix these songs. They [Mick and Keith] would come up with a melody and lyrics and Brian would add not much more than color. What he did was absolutely extraordinary. He was like an alchemist taking raw matter and turning it into a magnificent, immortal substance.” - Stash Klossowski de Rola.

[@williardbillmore5713]

@@TheaterPup Balderdash. Stash was a hanger on and a jerk.

[@rusticislander3584]

To eke out my student grant I took a summer job that year as a deck chair collector in London's Royal Parks. My pitch was Victoria Tower Gardens. The Stones' concert was held in a part of Hyde Park called the Cockpit, also one of our deck chair pitches, that backed onto the Serpentine. The concert became a memorial to Jones. We saw a good deal of it stage-side and the remainder from a rowing boat floating on the Serpentine with a picnic hamper. Happy days.

[@TheaterPup]

"In 1966, I witnessed, on numerous occasions, the remarkable spell Brian would cast while working in the recording studio. Mick and Keith would bring songs in, Brian would listen and effectively take charge, and everyone was in awe of him. He was a real perfectionist. While recording the recorder part in Ruby Tuesday he explained to me that he had to do it over again as he had been a quarter tone off tune."--Prince Stash Klossowski de Rola (artist and friend of the Stones) in Brian Jones: Butterfly in the Park.

[@ronnieron9912]

Now everyone knows.

[@williardbillmore5713]

How can a recorder go out of tune?

[@ronnieron9912]

@@williardbillmore5713 Stu says Keith only knew one way to play guitar but Brian knew more than Keith. Again, you are wrong, lol. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZu5iIGMncybg8k

[@ronnieron9912]

@@williardbillmore5713 How can your brain not comprehend truths when you live in a fantasy world with your own little revisionist history addictions? You have a hard on for dissing Jones. We get it, lol.

[@MrPrytania1]

@@williardbillmore5713 actually how do you keep a recorder in tune? Those damn cork rings are terrible. I used to play in an early music trio.

[@12thDecember]

First, our favorite narrator again! I don't think Jagger's answer was twisted at all. I think the group's animosity towards Jones (who probably was afflicted with bipolar disorder) was the inevitable result of his persistently contemptuous attitude towards the group. I am curious as to why someone would hear what was essentially a deathbed confession and then not follow up right then and there. Makes me wonder if he said it at all, because the fewer the details, the harder it is to prove.

[@kyralowry4708]

I agree with you, his wasn't twisted at all to me either, that's just a click bait that youtubers do

[@MJ-hl1kk]

It was twisted. Totally cynical and heartless. May the souls of devils never know rest.

[@baxpiz1289]

@@SuperAnimelover100 in her 30s? jones is dead 55 years

[@SuperAnimelover100]

@@baxpiz1289 So true but the article was old. She was the last baby born.

[@thomascniels7418]

Jagger's answer was honest there was nothing twisted about it.

[@BobMcGowan-NotTheChairCircle]

Thank you for this. It is very refreshing to see a video about a celebrity who had a sad end which is not sensationalist or lurid. Your handling of the facts and your respectful treatment of all the people involved does you credit. It was also a very nicely put together film,. understated and tasteful. I hope that you will continue to produce such worthy and informative films. Regards, Bob McGowan, (Not the Chair Circle!)

[@Fantomaxe]

When your friend is spiraling out of control you abandon Him That is what Mick and Keith did and you can't tell me otherwise. He will always be my favorite Stone as well as Charlie & Bill.

[@TheNobbynoonar]

What goes around comes around. Brian repeatedly abandoned his own flesh and blood.

[@SuperAnimelover100]

@@TheNobbynoonar Tell that to his stiff upper lip parents that !

[@williardbillmore5713]

They should have formed their own band...They could have called it, Can't Write and Can't Sing..They would have been a big hit I'm sure.... I want to know why Mick and Keith took so long to abandon Jones. They waltzed him along for at least four years of drunken uselessness before they canned his sorry ass..

[@williardbillmore5713]

@@TheNobbynoonar Karma knows no bounds for a psychopath like Jones. Brian's bastard children all had to grow up singing the Temptations song, "Papa Was a Rolling Stone".

[@JeffRemains]

He quit as much as he was fired. They parted ways because Jones chose drugs over life.

[@ronaldromano6330]

The truth is that Jagger was jealous about all the attention Jones was getting from his good looks that Jagger didn’t have. He got Richard’s support and the was history.

[@brandonshane1432]

I hope I'm never held in judgement for the person I was in my twenties when I reach my eighties..... Some folks really need to check themselves.

[@derhandtrommler]

I'm 70 and I don't really regret much of my young life, but I wince when I think about it.

[@derhandtrommler]

you are correct. I'm about to turn 70 and my family still treats me like I'm 19.

[@stuartmenziesfarrant]

No, wrong is wrong.

[@derhandtrommler]

@@stuartmenziesfarrant is it now ? define "wrong".

[@TheaterPup]

"We listened to the Stones' first EP, I Wanna Be Your Man, with Brian's remarkable solo. Charlie was sitting on the couch with his back to the window, the lights of Los Angeles below. Keith flopped besides him. 'What happened to Brian?' Charlie asked. 'He did himself in,' Keith said. 'He had to outdo everybody, do more. If everybody was taking a thousand mikes of acid, he'd take two thousand of STP. He did himself in.' Charlie nodded sadly. 'It's a shame,' he said. 'Brian could do that'--nodding toward the record player--'without even trying'."--The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones by Stanley Booth

[@TravisWard-m1t]

Robert Johnson was the founding victim of the 27 club. That doesn’t make what happened to Brian Jones any less of a sad tragedy, and he may have been second, but he wasn’t first.

[@JohnBurman-l2l]

They used to call it fishing death. You fish and drink all day on a boat then jump into the cold lake....heart attack formula.

[@kenton6098]

Perfectly logical statement from Jagger.

[@jelkel25]

I can understand what he said, I was an egotistical idiot late teens early 20s. You have the trials of an unknown group that couldn't get spat on if you were on fire then all these people treating you like you are something special when it takes off, that's a huge dopamine rollercoaster ride, you are going to be a bit hostile to anyone who potentially threatens said rollercoaster ride.

[@rainbowqueen1872]

According to one excellent biography, Frank Thoroughgood and his workers had been allowed far too much freedom by B.J. when renovating his home. Brian gave them pretty much the run of the place and they abused the privilege and treated the place like their personal squat! Brian was finally getting his act together and realising that things had gone too far, tried to wind-up the arrangement and get them out. Frank took exception to this and a huge bust-up ensued. F.T. on his deathbed confessed to drowning Brian.

[@chickyrogue8485]

Wow

[@spotsterjon74cu]

I remember reading that account of the story!

[@jibicusmaximus4827]

yes, was going to say bout the death bed confession too

[@NovChivon]

brians head was held under water until he drowned probably in a headlock

[@myobmyob2215]

Yeah sounds very likely, no kidding

[@romanticandperky]

I was in Vancouver, BC visiting my aunt when Brian Jones died. My late older brother, about 23 years later, was invited over to Keith Richards' house, where he would spend much of the 90s and early 2000s. We saw the original lineup of The Stones perform live (NYC-1966). They performed 'Lady Jane' and ended their set with 'Paint It, Black'. If I remember correctly, my brother told me that the front door of Keith Richards' house is painted red (or, at least it was in the 90s). After my brother died, a message arrived at his memorial service from Keith Richards' business manager: A lady named Jane. I remember asking my brother how come he's wasn't in Keith Richards' autobiography ('Life', released in 2010). After all, he spent virtually a dozen years at his house. His reply was-"I heard all the stories that didn't make it into the book first hand.' For instance, Brian Jones was not the first one to be kicked out of The Stones. Keith was-in the very early days of the band. My brother claimed it was Keith's mother, Doris, who told that story in their presence!

[@SuperAnimelover100]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@romanticandperky]

@@SuperAnimelover100 yes, hmmm!

[@SuperAnimelover100]

@@romanticandperky Wow 😮

[@romanticandperky]

@Izzy-o8f Yes, sure!

[@romanticandperky]

@Emmie19 What is it that everyone says is not true? My source is my now late older brother; a fine musician in his own right, who hung out with Keith Richards at his house for a dozen years or so. He heard a lot of stories from him. But, according to my brother (who I remember as a fairly truthful guy), it was Keith's Mom (or Mum, as the English say), Doris, who him the story of how, in the early days of The Stones, Mick and Brian kicked Keith out of the band (but changed their minds about it, of course).

[@ThomasDeLello]

Rolling Stones bassist Bill Wyman who was the closest to Brian Jones all along speculates in his autobiography "Stone Alone" that Brian Jones may have been epileptic and perhaps a seizure overcame him in that pool that fateful night. This speculation is based on a finding that one of Jones' children, a daughter has an epilepsy diagnosis and the girl's mother has no family history of it.

[@michaelsuder486]

It's possible he had epilepsy but that wouldn't affect his children. Both my wife and I have epilepsy and our children had a 3 percent chance of getting it. Neither one do. With just one parent having it, the odds are less than 1 percent

[@DulceN]

Jagger’s reply was not twisted at all. Click bait once again…

[@raysargent4055]

I was seeing the Rolling Stones live twice a week at the Ealing club Wednesdays and Saturdays in 1962

[@humanbeing5300]

Brian Jones completely destroyed himself on drugs and lost everything as a result. Some people just cant handle them. A sad state of affairs considering his potential.

[@VixGB]

My favourite narrator 🙏🏻

[@josephbarth2714]

1969 ???

[@josephbarth2714]

They formed in the early 60s!

[@steveconn]

Mick got Marianne, Brian got Anita. Nuff said. Even tough Keith looked like a wasted heroin zombie after a decade with her.

[@effdonahue6595]

She was a witchypoo 🧙😈🔥

[@desertrose1226]

She wasn’t even very attractive. Wore too much makeup.

[@patriciaw.5602]

@@effdonahue6595 Also, a groupie and a druggie.

[@harpman1876]

The great Alan Wilson from Canned Heat is also, sadly, a part of the 27 Club..

[@timmotel5804]

Blind Owl was Excellent and a Great Band also. A sad loss. RIP Alan.

[@TheNobbynoonar]

All of the cast Dads army are all dead as well. It’s a curse.

[@johnwolcot]

I think Jagger's comments concerning Brian Jones are honest and fair.

[@DiscoDashco]

Hey, just wanted to say that I love your Scottish accent! I also appreciate the care and attention you put into your narration. Greetings from Austin!

[@djacidkingcidguerreiro9780]

Brian Jones WAS the heart and soul of the Rolling Stones. The Stones were at their greatest 1963-69, before the rot set in.

[@derhandtrommler]

If Mick Jagger is the result of 60 years of "rot", then I'll take some of what he's having.

[@themetalhead1463]

They never topped Beggars Banquet.

[@derhandtrommler]

@@themetalhead1463 debatable, but certainly in the mix.

[@nursecathy123cat]

At least he and the girlfriends had the maturity to allow the babies to be adopted. Those babies probably thrived.

[@TheaterPup]

Very true.

[@daveoz6127]

Don't forget Ian Stewart, He as well started the Rolling Stones !!!!

[@TheaterPup]

Ian Stewart is important too, but Brian Jones started the Rolling Stones. No one else.

[@SuperAnimelover100]

@@TheaterPup You hit a Grand Slam !!! :)

[@Dudley-x2c]

Never let your little head rule your big head boys !

[@secondchance6603]

Correct, always men's fault for everything when it comes to women... apparently.

[@TheaterPup]

"It’s a knack whether you can juggle or write a song. It’s not something that’s a spontaneous thing. What Brian did, and people seem to forget, is that Brian then would rule the studio. He would come up with how to fix these songs. They [Mick and Keith] would come up with a melody and lyrics and Brian would add not much more than color. What he did was absolutely extraordinary. He was like an alchemist taking raw matter and turning it into a magnificent, immortal substance.” - Stash Klossowski de Rola.

[@somoslasfieras]

I dont think this guy is right.Is much harder to compose something, that decorating other people songs...

[@TheaterPup]

@@somoslasfieras This guy? Sounds like you need to read up more on the Stones if you don’t know him. By, decorating is part of song writing. 🙄

[@somoslasfieras]

@@TheaterPup No,one thing is composing and other the arrangements for other ppl music...very different...in all cities you will find people who knows to play and can do arrangements....but very few ppl can compose good songs...in fact,the composers took most of the money for the band...

[@TheaterPup]

@@somoslasfieras Ehhh money has nothing to do with this discussion. And the Beatles wouldn’t have gotten far if not for George Martin’s arrangements. Same with the Stones and Brian’s arrangements.

[@somoslasfieras]

@@TheaterPup Is not the same example.Anyway,First Beatles and second,Stones,were a product of the satanic sionism mk-ultra made in Tavistock,to control the masses and sell hard drugs and wrong behaviour about politics,sex,...

[@williardbillmore5713]

The attempt at starting his own band was a direct reference to the advert Brian posted in the Jazz News that only produced Ian Stewart as the timeline would indicate. Immediately after Jones concluded that his attempt was a failure he got himself introduced to the leader of the Blue Boys, Keith Richards... Keith had been impressed with Brian's slide playing from an appearance he made sitting in with Blues Inc at the Ealing Club in the past. Keith liked the idea of having a slide guitar player in his band even though Brian could only play a handful of songs with slide guitar he had memorized.. Keith was also VERY impressed with Ian's honky tonk blues style of piano playing and that a guy much older than himself took them seriously enough to want to join his band as well. The Blue Boys were very successful compared to where Brian was at the time. They had a place to practice, a good solid bass player who was also a better guitarist than most around ...a great rhythm and blues guitarist who could play Chuck Berry style leads and almost anything else he had heard. They had at least two drummers who practiced with them off and on, and they had a great lead singer and charismatic frontman in the form of Mick Jagger. A performer who was wowing everyone who saw him sing and entertain with his flamboyant personality at the Ealing Club. To top it all off they were sticking together for the most part and were getting better at it all the time. That was a lot more success than Brian had accomplished with his advert in the paper and his solo sit ins with Korner's band. Success was measured at the time by comprehensive music performances, recognition and longevity, rather than financial gain which very few, at their level had yet to attain including Brian. Brian saw what the Blue Boys had put together and he could see the potential and a blues band he wanted desperately to be part of. Jones ego no doubt saw the enterprise as a pooling of resources but the Blue Boys saw it as an additional guitarist and a great piano player to improve their odds of getting a big break, which sure enough came along.shortly after. The Blue Boys were on their way to becoming the Rolling Stones and an in demand rock/ pop blues band.

[@mitabpraga7487]

Some observations, in no particular order. First is that Jones was clearly one of those people who was always going to plough his own furrow. A fine and wonderful thing, but there will always be a point beyond which it'll generate antipathy, and the more antipathy it generates the more some people are determined to carry on with that furrow. Drink and drugs exacerbate the situation, chronic substance abuse tends to lock a person more into themselves and rational objectivity goes down the tubes. That situation with Jones is a common one, notable similar examples are Syd Barrett getting the boot from Pink Floyd the year before, Sid Vicious ten years later would have been kicked out of the Pistols if they hadn't imploded, and latterly Anton Newcomb seems to be heading pretty much the same way, although I think he's more likely to be left by his bandmates (or maybe go solo) than be kicked. Secondly, Jones' death will forever be shrouded in speculation. In general, when there are competing theories for the cause of an event the simplest explanation is usually the most likely, the further a theory is from that the more evidence will be required to support it. In this case the the most likely explanation is that Jones was just too mashed to keep his head above water and get out of the pool, there's plenty of evidence to support that and no evidence of murder, and according to Bill Wyman in 2002 Keylock subsequently denied that Thorogood had confessed. Make of it what you will, people will always believe what they want to believe. Thirdly, the 27 club has been refuted by research, one study in 2011 found similar spikes at the ages of 25 and 32, another published in 2014 found that between 1950 and 2010 over two thirds as many more musicians had died at the age of 56 compared with 27 (2.2% vs 1.3%). A bar chart of age vs percentage published in The Conversation shows a familiar bell curve with 56 at its peak, albeit with fewer deaths before that age than after it, and over 30 ages with more deaths than those at age 27. Finally, Jagger's comments in that Rolling Stone interview were a bit of a mix. On the one hand he admits that the other band members picked on Jones and that he (Jagger) was no angel in that regard, on the other he cites Jones' own behaviour as a justification for it (see my first point), and he also cites a contemporaneous lack of understanding of substance addiction as a factor. I have never bought Jagger's claim that contractual obligations prevented him from attending Jones' funeral, by 1969 he was big enough to take on United Artists over that and the public backlash against UA if they had taken action against Jagger for doing it would have hurt UA more than UA would have hurt Jagger. My own (highly personal) view is that Jagger's non-attendamce was largely a mixture of guilt and apathy but Jagger is sticking to his story and that's where it has to be left. On the whole it's a sad but familiar tale and maybe, 55 years later, it's one that needs to be put to bed.

[@MJ-hl1kk]

@mitabpraga7487 Why are you eager for it to be put to bed at any stage? There have been cold cases solved with evidence that propped up decades later. Maybe there is someone who is near and dear to Jones who would like to know, for sure, if possible.

[@mitabpraga7487]

@@MJ-hl1kk Re-read the last line. 1. The word "maybe" is a suggestion, it doesn't mean I'm eager. 2. It begins "On the whole". That means the entire story. It's nothing new, and it's certainly nothing unusual. People form a band. Over time things change. Some of its members might want the band to do different stuff, change this, try that. They find out the guy they thought would be a buddy forever is an asshole, whatever. Stuff happens. Disagreements, arguments, fist fights. Some get kicked out, some quit, or the band breaks up, and sometimes somebody dies. Sad and all, but that's the way it goes, it happens with bands all over the world every day. Newsworthy for a while sure, but as time goes on evrything that can be said about it has been said, there's a time to draw a line under it. Look at those muppets Gilmour and Waters. They've been feuding for 40 years, they're still at it and they're not going to stop until one of them finally goes to The Great Gig In The Sky. Quite why anybody gives a stuff about that anymore beats me, but some people are still banging on about it as if it's something important or even relevant. 3. To be specific about Jones' death I don't believe it should be considered a closed case, and that's not how things work in the UK. The police will always investigate any new evidence presented to them, they did so in 2009 after a journalist called Scott Jones gave them what he believed to be new information gleaned from several sources including people who were at the house at the time and from police files at the National Archive. The following year, at the conclusion of the review, Sussex Police stated that it would not be reopening the case and that "this has been thoroughly reviewed by Sussex Police's Crime Policy and Review Branch, but there is no new evidence to suggest that the coroner's original verdict of 'death by misadventure' was incorrect". The key word is evidence.

[@mitabpraga7487]

@Emmie19 You've clearly put a lot of thought and effort into your comment, for that alone it deserves a few likes. I hink we'd agree that Jones was very much a fish out of water. The 60s was a frenetic decade, the world changed a great deal, especially for the younger generation, in just a few short years. It's easy to imagine wanting or needing to be part of it, but overwhelmed by it at the same time. Pallenberg yes, bad news all round. Dunno about Dawn, but I think Anna Wohlin was on his side. All Jones wanted was what the rest of us want, to do his thing, love, and be loved. As you say, it could have been prevented with the right support. It came too late. The night he died, well there may only be one person who knows what happened and he can't tell us. If there are any more some of them have joined Jones and the rest aren't going to say anything they haven't said before. The only sure thing is that we'll never know. The history of the 27 Club is part of the history of urban mythit's evolved the same as any other. I think its impetus was that Jones, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison (along with Alan Wilson, Dickie Pride and Arlester Christian) all popped off in a little over two years of each other. It's nailed on that somebody is going to read something into that. After that, it's largely a mix of statistical mean and confirmation bias. Incidentally, you may be interested to know that Robert Johnson is no longer considered the founder. He was beaten to it by a couple of ragtime pianists, Louis Chauvin in 1908 and Alexandre Levy in 1892. Oh and Rupert Brooke in 1915, but he's a poet so I wouldn't know if that counts. As for the 56 Club, I'd be interested to see a list. My own completely uneducated guess is that most of the artists in it would still have had active careers. Artists can't stop, it's not in their DNA. Not much in the way of argument I know, but it's the best I've got 🙂

[@ronnieron9912]

Wrong on so many levels, lol

[@michaelstelck6292]

Hallo- first sorry for my poor englisch. I am from Germany and I am71 years old. I played in a band when I was young and we played a lot of The Rolling Stones stuff. Now I am old and I see many Stones act at youtube. And I realize that Brian plays all the time simply rhythm guitar and Keith plays all the solos!!

[@GeorgeSmiley77]

I went to the same school in Cheltenham that Brian Jones had attended, 1970-75. Amazingly, none of us students had any idea that a Rolling Stone, the founder no less, was an alumnus; I only found out about 15 years ago. That was because there was no internet in the 70s, but also because Jones had been expelled from the school and was known to have gotten involved with "drugs", so his attendance was kept secret from us. The name of the school was Dean Close School.

[@SuperAnimelover100]

Thanks for the info. Shame on the school.

[@GeorgeSmiley77]

@@SuperAnimelover100 To defend the school (it was a very good school!), this was early 70s and everyone was starting to worry a great deal about "drugs". Everyone thought that smoking a joint almost guaranteed that you'd soon be doing heroin. They were wrong, but It's hard to blame them. They had no 'real world' data to draw from. And while I was there, 3 or 4 older boys _were_ expelled over drugs, so their worries weren't that dumb.

[@SuperAnimelover100]

@@GeorgeSmiley77 I do understand you. The school or the city should recognize Brian. He had his faults but he was Brilliant. By early adolescence, Brian was exceptional scholastically; his IQ was a very high 135, in the genius range. But his musical ability and intelligence didn't keep him out of trouble. He was suspended from school for one week for leading a revolt against the prefects. :):)

[@GeorgeSmiley77]

@@SuperAnimelover100 Ha ha, I myself became a Level 2 (house, not the whole school) prefect in my last year, even though I got in a fair amount of trouble before that. The other famous alumnus from that school was Francis Bacon, the Irish painter widely considered Britain's finest painter of the 20th century. The reason we didn't know about him was that he was a very open homosexual, and the school was a Christian school. He was also very avant-garde, which might also have counted against him.

[@neonfroot]

​@@SuperAnimelover100 iromy is? Alot of intellectual figures were junkies

[@AtomicLobotomy]

He was the Boss! -- Inspiration, Founder, Teacher, and All Round Grand Master, Brian Jones made the Rolling Stones into the kind of band he wanted. They are still, to this day, his creation.

[@gerade-aus]

@@AtomicLobotomy Brian Jones' Rolling Stones, of course! Just like Sid Barrett's Pink Floyd. But you know, maybe not quite the same.

[@fredjones9750]

The problem with Brian tho was while he was a fine musician he couldn't write a song to save himself.

[@ronnieron9912]

@@fredjones9750 Not true and debatable.

[@fredjones9750]

@@ronnieron9912 can you list all the brian jones written songs that made it on to recordings for the rolling stones then ? I'll wait.

[@ronnieron9912]

@@fredjones9750 Marianne and Anita have both said that Brian wrote most of Ruby Tuesday.

[@davefairburn3298]

See the movie "Stoned." It is a bio of Brian Jones.

[@RockinProfessor]

Good movie....

[@PeteOrmond5678]

Those early Stones singles wouldn't have had the memorable qualities that they had without Jones's instrumental contributions. He also was almost singlehandedly responsible for their blues/rock n' Roll aesthetic. He was a mess but also could've been helped.

[@danyarwood1432]

Brian was definitely the most talented stone!!✊🇨🇦

[@dennisscalici8217]

He added a lot of color

[@richarddelgado2723]

Not songwriting wise though 😮…. People somehow seem to forget about that one…..

[@decimated550]

@@richarddelgado2723 people say that to be charitable, but it is wrong. maybe he made some cool sounds as elements in songs, but he was no composer, just a experimenter.

[@TheaterPup]

@@decimated550 He was an arranger, which supposed music fans on the Internet don't seem to understand. Imagine thinking any member of the Stones requires "charity."

[@TheaterPup]

@@richarddelgado2723 LOL More like it's all haters seem to cling on to.

[@bb1111116]

I appreciated a fairly complete account of Brian Jones’ story.

[@ronnieron9912]

Alexis Korner who helped the Stones in the very beginning proves here that Jagger and Richards are full of it when they say Brian couldn't write songs. Alexis Korner - BBC Radio - The Rolling Stones Story (1973). "It's not strictly true to say that Brian couldn't write music, but his reticence in putting his music forward for consideration by the group seems to have been due to a mixture of shyness and lack of confidence." - Alexis Korner. These words by Alexis were said in response to Stu/Ian Stewart saying that Brian was "incapable of writing music ".

[@williardbillmore5713]

Writing hit songs is a rare talent. Some people have it and the musical ideas just seem to pour out of them ,like Mick and Keith. Others just never had it and couldn't come up with a good original musical idea to save their lives. That would be most people and includes Brian. Mick has noted that Brian would come to them with ideas for songs on occasion but he was too lazy to develop and work on them and the things he did try just weren't very good.. I Itake Mick's word for it...Anyone would have to agree that Mick is a world renowned expert on what makes popular music good, with a potential for success. With Mick's track record I trust his judgement. If any of Brian's song ideas were any good at all he was uniquely situated, he had the resources at his fingertips, and lots of time to develop and perfect them if he could. No one would or could stop him Face it Brian just didn't have the ability..

[@williardbillmore5713]

Whether Brian could, or was incapable of writing songs the bottom line is that he didn't. He became wealthy and famous on the talents of others.

[@ronnieron9912]

@@williardbillmore5713 Nope, I already provided you a link to a video of a song Brian was working on that proves he could write songs. Just material that Keith has said didn't fit the Stones sound. Still in denial? Hilarious, lmao.

[@williardbillmore5713]

@@ronnieron9912 Oh really? How many copies did it sell? Was it as big a hit as Satisfaction? I never heard of it.

[@royceinthehouse842]

Enjoyed this video, took a look around the channel and decided I needed to SUBSCRIBE & HIT THE BELL!

[@quantum_ocean]

What a bunch of crap. When someone tells you they killed a man you don’t say “oh well I’ll come back tomorrow to hear the details “ 😂

[@miseryloveco]

The movie, Performance, tells the Brian Jones story in better than anyone ever could. Bonus: Mick plays Brian.

[@TheaterPup]

I agree it's interesting to watch the movie keeping that in mind.

[@melissavancleave8686]

Best narrator.

[@timmotel5804]

Good Day. Excellent and Educational Video. Brian was a Great Musician. I've seen the STONES twice. 1968 & 1996. A Sad Ending. RIP Brian Thank You & Best Regards

[@KellyMulryan]

Dont believe he ended up in pool by accident..was his band he named them and was best musician.

[@decimated550]

no, he may have been creative but he didn't put out the classic hits. he noodled around with exotic insttruments. he fell apart when his girlfriend ran off

[@paolomargini7904]

If you go with enthusiasm through the personal lives of your idols in any field, you'll later discover it would be better to get the art without knowing the rest.

[@user-ct3mu4xk5v]

Anita Pallenberg largely contributed to the demise of Brian Jones.

[@garethclark5489]

No, I hint it is clear that Brian had a type of personality disorder from a young age. Who knows why? Maybe somewhere in his childhood his needs were not fulfilled. In any case Anita and Brian’s relationship was not healthy but she was not directly responsible for his demise.

[@tjroelsma]

@@garethclark5489 Agreed, Brian Jones always seemed prone to being self-destructive and his drug abuse kicked things in high gear. Jones also seemed prone to self-pity and always thought someone else was to blame for his mistakes/f*** ups. Ultimately it was Jones' lack of self-control and reliability that got him booted out of the Rolling Stones.

[@williardbillmore5713]

Nonsense!...Anita left Jones fot Keith because Brian was a manipulative abuser and an asshole....Brian was well on his way to self destruction before he even met Palenberg.

[@ronnieron9912]

@@garethclark5489 She totally contributed to it with her scheming and manipulation.

[@Hurkuhntreeks]

❤women always ruin everything. Yoko, journey, etc and many more. Women don’t care and want all the attention

[@PG-kd9mc]

Mick Taylor made the difference. Brilliant

[@davidboyce8683]

Agree, easily the most musically creative period in the Stones , inmo anyway.

[@robertkelly6282]

And was smart enough to get out when drugs were being used a lot. He didn’t want to get caught up like Keith and mick.

[@derhandtrommler]

He definitely made A difference.

[@briansam2524]

At least both Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman (plus Ian Stewart) were the only Stones to attend Brian's funeral, Keith was recording in the studio (in an interview) and his reason for not attending was because he didn't want to get caught in a "circus atmosphere" I believe (I may be wrong) Mick actually wanted to come but he was in Australia filming "Ned Kelly" and the producers told Mick (apparently) he could not go because it would've costed money for each delay but Mick and Marianne did send flowers. One book had mentioned that both Keith and Anita Pallenberg were at the funeral when they weren't and the same with newcomer Mick Taylor who stated that he never went to the funeral, and that he has never met Brian Jones. (Mick Taylor did say he had seen Brian perform)

[@derhandtrommler]

yes, Mick was in Aussieland with "Performance" when Brian was buried. Keith was doing BBC radio.

[@MightyMick88]

Jagger and Richards knew that Brian Jones had more talent than all of the other 3 put together. Jones was a great musician.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

Nope nowhere near to being true

[@fredjones9750]

Yes he was a fine musician but he was a terrible songwriter. Jagger/richards songwriting partnership was what took the band forward.

[@TheaterPup]

@@fredjones9750 Do you think Ruby Tuesday is terrible? He should have received co credit. The Stones accountant said he asked Brian why he was giving away so many credits to Mick and Keith. You're just taking their word for it that he was "terrible," despite them having a history of not sharing credit. He also wrote an entire film score which Mick and Keith never did.

[@fredjones9750]

@@TheaterPup well personally I don't particularly like ruby Tuesday.

[@TheaterPup]

@@fredjones9750 Well Keith co-wrote it as well, and I thought he was one of the ones that took the band forward? And certainly Mick singing it makes it as well. :)

[@FranklinWilson-ev9dq]

Didn't He Start, The Rolling Stones, Group, ORIGINALLY????!!!!

[@KarmicSalt]

Yes he did but he was no match for the evil of jagger richards.

[@HektorBandimar]

He may well have been the guy who started the band, but he couldn't handle his part once they were all up and running as a successful band, what were the other members meant to do, all leave because Brian could no longer hack it?

[@agbobier2657]

He sure was handsome. I tried to get my parents to let me go to the concert but they thought I was too young at 11 Yeats old. I did catch Steel Wheels in Vancouver though.

[@FranklinWilson-ev9dq]

@CharliesTrousers-od3lt Yes! He And Ian!

[@MegaMkmiller]

@@KarmicSalt Bullshit. During the Let It Bleed sessions Brian Jones rarely showed up. When he did, he was too fucked up to play. Leaving almost ALL of the guitar work to Keith Richards. One of the best albums they ever did. Brian did well on 1968's Beggar's Banquet --- on ONE song. "No Expectations." Slide guitar as I'm sure you are aware. Brian couldn't write a song to save his life. Not much of a singer either. So who do you suppose wrote the songs?! Look at the copyright. They can't tour America with him and he has not been functioning for a long time. As a result, he got fired. They are trying to make a living. Running a business not a country club. I like and admire Brian Jones more than most but let's not get carried away here.

[@ObjectorSnark]

what jagger said wasn't twisted. no, the clickbait twisted line you want was from richards, who said "you don't leave the rolling stones-they carry you out."

[@raysargent4055]

The band started in 1962 ,

[@mauallison7755]

I always liked Zeppelin, The Who, Ten Years After and Foghat much more than the Stones from the English bands. Enjoyed Floyd too. Feel bad for Brians rise and demise and hope he came back as a better human and musician.

[@desertrose1226]

My fav of the 60s lot has to be the Doors followed by the Who and Zep. Love later Floyd and never really liked the Stones or the Beatles!

[@derhandtrommler]

You've got some cajones putting the Stones and Foghat in the same sentence, Sparky.

[@elforeigner3260]

Jones years were the best Stones years They ended up like AC/DC without Bon Scott, or Pink Floyd without Syd Barret; repeating themselves ad nausea

[@lennythegumpsummers8889]

All of those bands you mentioned had one of their best records after that said person died/left the group. AC/DC had one of the greatest hard rock albums of the 80s. Pink floyd had one of the best three album runs ever. The stones proceeded to release Let it Bleed,Sticky Fingers,Exile and Goats head soup. There is no Jones run that compares to that I love Out of our heads,Aftermath and Satanic Majesties. But Between the buttons isn't my cup of tea.

[@derhandtrommler]

You probably prefer Nickelback. Move along and let the adults do this.

[@jimsmith9301]

Very informative and interesting! I have followed the Stones since their records came out in America and got to see them live 3 times! I know Brian was a very talented musician and it's so sad he was so yroubled! GBY. Jim

[@GaryAa56]

Many thing I wasn't aware of till I watched this video.

[@snass7]

the group started in 62 not 69. I have album from 65

[@WolfRoss]

And he was the best looking of the bunch.

[@williardbillmore5713]

I'll bet he looks good now, huh?

[@darmal8770]

my best mates's mum was a dancer on "Ready Steady Go" when the Stones appeared in '64. She said Jagger had terribly bad BO. She was also a model and worked for marketing companies from 63-69, meeting and guiding celebs around London. This 80 year old woman has SO many stories!

[@RobertaReal7980]

What a cool history your mom has. I'm not surprised about the B.O. I always thought he would have bad breath as well.

[@SuperAnimelover100]

Haaaaaaaaaaaa! I believe it

[@SuperAnimelover100]

@@RobertaReal7980 Funky !

[@alibobo2009]

It was a wild time❤

[@restock_1731]

If i had a genie, one wish would be how did Brian Jones die? Jones was such a wasted talent. Great video of Brian, awesome as always.

[@chickyrogue8485]

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[@Rich-ng3yy]

They wanted to tour in America and Brian couldn't go.

[@Trobtwillis]

I've seen parts of Rock & Roll Circus. I recall Stones performing well. So I don't understand why the film went unreleased for so many years. I found their performance of "Jumpin' Jack Flash" very exciting. Brian Jones was good on electric rhythm guitar. When they performed "No Expectations," Brian was great on slide guitar.

[@charleslittledale7991]

I met Brian a few times in the 60s & he was perfectly ok. He was obviously changed by the takeover of his band but I think the final straw was Keith nicking his girlfriend. I have never forgiven business man Mick for his insensitive attitude to Brian

[@HARALDEMANN]

Blah blah. Jagger did A LOT to try and help Jones. But Jones refused. Keith DID NOT steal Brian’s girlfriend. She ran away because Brian was abusive towards her. He was his own worst enemy. And hitting women and fathering numerous children and abandon them afterwards, is not very adorable. Maybe Jones was a great musician, but he was total jerk as a person.

[@ronnieron9912]

@@HARALDEMANN Nonsense. In the new movie about Anita, she admits to cheating on Brian with Keith BEFORE Morocco. and Keith admits to having a crush on her 2 years before when Anita and Brian had an apt at Cheyne Walk. that makes Keith a scumbag and Anita a whore.

[@gracegeek4678]

Loved early Stones! So good!

[@lindacosta3265]

The 27th birthday is the beginning of the Saturn Return which longs for 2 1/2 years. During this period, people change from young to mature… or dead!

[@neonfroot]

thats more a myth. From personal experience, alot of people in their thirties amd forties are still adolescent. Besides, back in the old days, adulthood began at thirteen. We started extending childhood by the late eighteenth century.

[@SargonofQueens]

Mick jagger was very honest about his treatment of Brian Jones. Contrary to public belief, he has always been a gentleman in person.

[@johannbogason1662]

Imagine being able to pick up any instrument and play. Obviously Brian was cursed.

[@conniemeulemans3461]

You don't get someone "accidentally" pregnant. And then do it again.

[@PamelaMacmillan-pc4rx]

It takes two to tango.

[@davidpage3893]

He forgot to use a condom.

[@richarddelgado2723]

Y?!!! You can’t make two ✌️mistakes? 😮…. lol 😂…..

[@KHoltzie]

Interesting little docu-it’s a shame it really is, all that gifted multitalented instrumentalism and he stupidly threw it all away for damsels and drugs, I also read that he wasn’t that prolific a songwriter/lyricist either which was another thing the other Stones just couldn’t come to terms with…Jones will always have my respect for what he was able to contribute from an instrumental standpoint however & The Stones are and always will be my favorite band! 🤟🏻🫦

[@TheaterPup]

His contributions should have given him co credit on multiple songs. And people don't just decide to throw it all away with drugs, usually it's because something larger has gone wrong in their lives.

[@KHoltzie]

@@TheaterPup I agree with the first item but disagree with the second-he CHOSE drugs and girls in excess over the band in my opinion

[@TheaterPup]

@@KHoltzie Again, people do things for a reason.

[@KHoltzie]

@@TheaterPup Precisely and I’m telling you he chose to do those things

[@TheaterPup]

@@KHoltzie Do you know what the word "reason" means?

[@gerade-aus]

Jealousy of the highest order. Brian was the genius of the RS.

[@RoyBennett-dz2cq]

@@gerade-aus just a muso

[@gerade-aus]

@RoyBennett-dz2cq He was a virtuoso. Marimba, sitar, dulcimer, keyboards, guitar, bass fiddle, flute. He played them all on the most iconic of classic RS tracks. MJ and KRichard were supremely jealous of his raw talent.

[@TheNobbynoonar]

Really? Most of my favourite Stones albums were recorded after Brian Jones’s death.

[@RoyBennett-dz2cq]

@@TheNobbynoonar likewise who doesn't love " she so cold*

[@michaelwakeford2336]

@@RoyBennett-dz2cq Misguided comment.

[@maxdakota111]

Why do people consistently mention Brian Jones as "the first member of the 27 club" when it was obviously Robert Johnson who began the 27 club? I just don't get that at all. They didn't recognize Robert Johnson for years as the master musician he was, and they still recognize the correlation of him being THE founding member of the 27 club, not that it's something you'd really want to be known for admittedly.

[@etiennedegaulle3817]

Had there been no Brian Jones, there would be no Brian Jonestown Massacre.

[@bingsinatra5283]

@@etiennedegaulle3817 Have you heard 'Brian Jones' Bastard Son' by The Folk Devils?

[@RoyBennett-dz2cq]

@@etiennedegaulle3817 your not well in the head are you?

[@markbailey6045]

@@bingsinatra5283😅

[@williardbillmore5713]

I heard from a fan of Brian Jones that he had invented Kool-Aide, he showed Boy George how to dress and he taught Muddy Waters how to sing like a black man... It's all in Paul Trynka's book. "The mystery Of Brian Jones's Drunkenness".

[@williardbillmore5713]

@@bingsinatra5283 No ... but I have heard the Temptations song, Papa Was A Rolling Stone.. Some say Brian wrote the coda for it.

[@rjford3306]

The only glaring error anyone can point out here is; Brian Jones was actually not the first casualty of the 27 list. That actually goes to Robert Johnson, the delta blues artist; whom ironically was also one of Jones inspirations.

[@ChristianoWhite]

just goes to show, we don't always get what we want

[@aminahmed2220]

Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful day also a fantastic weekend ❤😊

[@anniealatishe6968]

A Wild Group Indeed Full Of Energy And Still Going Strong 😉

[@KarmicSalt]

well the evil of the stones, jagger/ richards are still going strong. They are the example I use when I say that karma isn't real.

[@heidibee501]

In our minds, Brian Jones will always remain young and very cute. The same cannot be said of the surviving members.

[@heidibee501]

@@KarmicSalt Don't give up on "karma". It is not over, till it's over,

[@SharonMartinez]

@@heidibee501given that sage observation, I’d opt for “surviving.” One can hardly call it surviving…more like flourishing.

[@SharonMartinez]

@@heidibee501…until the fat lady sings…

[@DataJuggler]

All within a month, my opinion of Mick has changed twice. First, I heard he often went to the handicap section of concerts, because wheelchairs didn't have seating on a lot of arenas in those days, and Mick gave out T-Shirts and 8 Tracks and CD's. One of his roadies admitted it. Then I hear this, and I have met a lot of crappy rich people in business. They didn't get to the top by being a nice guy.

[@kikogarcia4096]

He was the sacrifice

[@blakejohnson-pm2tk]

Loads of talent 🎉

[@angloaust1575]

Never should have become Involved with them in the first Place!

[@johngore7744]

He’d already fathered 4 kids by the time he was 20 and paid no support. Brian has been glorified as a golden boy. He wasn’t built for the long haul. He was very intelligent and talented but had issues. And the dope made it worse. It’s very sad. Kinda like Syd Barrett or Peter Greene. I’ve been a fan since 1967 and I always remember Brian always seemed fragile to me as a kid. He could be mean too apparently. But none of the back then knew squat about mental illness or drug addition ( of which they were basically rewriting the book.) it was a long time ago and it was really a shame. Cheers from Montreal

[@franciswalsh8416]

Very informative! Good presentation

[@chickyrogue8485]

Brian jones was the hottest stone .... jagger wasnt going to handle that

[@alukuhito]

Did Jagger have him offed?

[@Vibeagain]

WTH?

[@SuperAnimelover100]

You told the TRUTH !!

[@Hurkuhntreeks]

@@alukuhito❤I believe him and Richards were in on it

[@mcashnv]

Actually, Jagger was quite sympathetic towards Brian. He understood that Brian was the big attraction to the female fans, and his presence sold a lot of concert tickets. He also appreciated Brian's role in the studio as a sort of arranger. Even Oldham said that it was often Brian's contributions in the studio that "pulled the whole song together". It was Keith who really hated Brian, because on some level Brian never respected Keith as a musician. Anita was essentially an above-average-looking groupie, who chased the Kinks around before meeting Brian. There's a video of a Kinks live show on KZbin that shows Anita desperately flirting with Ray Davies, long before she met the Stones.

[@davidwiner8571]

We know how the stones have come. But i still wonder what would it have been had Brian and the rest could have got through this bad spot. I know there was a loss of truly great music

[@derhandtrommler]

It wasn't a "bad spot" Brian was a career drug abuser and he needed creative outlets over and above the Stones.

[@jeremyjames8678]

But he had great hair!

[@SuperAnimelover100]

Oh my God he did !! Brian looked like a true Prince !! :)

[@sparkle1108]

Brian was voted as having the best hair style ever, for his look around March 1966/Aftermath.

[@johnoberle9750]

Brian Jones made The Rolling Stones great. Just listen to their early albums. As a person maybe he was a jerk. All the different sounds you hear on the early tracks are him playing a multitude of instruments. Yes he was a genius.

[@philuribe7863]

What was so "twisted" about Jagger's response? It seems quite understandable to me.

[@lilybond6485]

He had the greatest hair. Who had the hairstyle first - Beatles or Stones ?

[@TheaterPup]

Beatles, but a lot of bands wanted to look like Brian, such as The Byrds. There's even a song called "Cut Her Hair" about Marianne Faithfull cutting her hair to look like Brian's. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omfKqJ2pgMScZ9ksi=0bhAufviNuYjuV3W

[@straightreject2947]

Pink Floyd done the same thing to Syd Barrett 😢

[@derhandtrommler]

You're pretty ignorant, Sparky. Syd was a drug casualty who would stand still onstage with his guitar around his neck, just feeding back. The band decided to keep going without him because he couldn't be trusted to play what they rehearsed. Gilmour and Waters even produced a record for Syd after he was out of the band, but it was a disaster. Syd was both an acid head and was mentally ill. He wasn't available to contribute on any level.

[@KitLaughlin]

Excellent work. Thank you.