Faction Focus - Tomb Kings - Rules, Roster & More - Warhammer The Old World - Fantasy

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

We've got 2 today another smaller 1 coming later :) sorry for the delay of Tomb Kings this should have come yesterday but the Araby mod for Warhammer embargo landed on the same day :)

[@AuthorSurrogate]

The “-“ for the AP on Curse of the Necropolis is typically used to indicate “0”. So it has no AP.

[@Stonehorn]

I have probably 40-50000 points of painted WHFB from over 30 years, and I can’t wait to play against these guys for our very first game of Old World. My best friend and I have already planned for two full days of TOW on the 20th and 21st. Second game will be Bret’s vs TK, but with real lists. Then maybe we’ll switch armies, probably Dwarfs vs Empire followed by Orcs and Goblins vs Beastmen or Ogres. Basically, we want to play as many of the main armies as we can. Launch weekend, my games room will be very busy. I have 4 full 6x4 tables, 11 armies (not all rebased, but I’ve been printing conversion trays for now, im rebasing my TOW “Main” armies, and keeping my PDF forces on WHFB bases so I can continue to play 5th, 6th and 8th when i want a change.

[@LordEsel88]

10:42 The Lore of Necromancy in TOW is closer to the old Lore of Death if you look at the spells, which TK had access to in 8th edition. So this make sense. It is the new Signature Spells with Lore of Nehekhara that likely will set them appart from Vampire Counts magic when their rules are released. That would be my guess.

[@camillokamo8950]

VC could also have a specific "lore of vampires" as they did for many editions

[@ExileTwilight]

It bothers me immensely that they called it Necromancy though.. >.

[@CatharsisChaser]

Ushabti with greatbows actually look decent this edition surprisingly, unmodifiable bs 3 with a 30" ap1/ab2 2 damage bow and a decent amount ap 1 regular attacks make them a great all around unit

[@camillokamo8950]

Seriously, that's some anti cavalry snipers

[@ExileTwilight]

Freakin' finally.. BS2 for such expensive archers were not worth it.

[@CatharsisChaser]

@@ExileTwilight I know right, they actually feels like they should now A walking pseudo bolt thrower that's still plenty tough and fighty is perfect for how the vast majority of TK armies play

[@asdfghju4]

'AP -' would be AP 0/no penetration, based on the battle reports we've seen right?

[@MegaApostel]

yes

[@saldiven2009]

Historically, AP- has meant there is no armor penetration, so I assume it's the same now.

[@twincast2005]

Yeah, nothing new.

[@khornebread4802]

I cannot wait to build/paint/play my Tomb Kings when the box arrives. Hopefully they'll update the rest of the line and add back in the Hierotitan some day.

[@Le-cp9tr]

I wish we got a Hierotitan and Khemric Titan. Those being cut is awkward

[@joelkurowski7129]

We need to complain loudly about this. There's a lot of people that are pissed it got cut. Especially as they had no problem designing and making a new centerpiece model from the ground up. Should have been a Titan in the box.

[@victordesena9763]

The Hierotitan being cut is expected honestly, no model and all

[@Le-cp9tr]

@@victordesena9763 Yeah but I hope they make one

[@raynightshade8317]

@@victordesena9763 Could just replicate the total war one

[@Sentient_Scarab_Swarm]

You say that like I’m not gonna make my own.

[@Psilocybear]

Nathan I love all these videos on the Old world and in particular the faction focuses. Looking forward to wood elves !

[@marcusc9931]

The hex sounds like a weaponized tool more than a weapon. Imagine a mortuary technician comes to the battefield and dries you up with a mummification prep spell.

[@aidanpetancic6615]

I started buying up some of these guys in preparation as their one my top three favorites. Can’t wait to play em

[@michaeljacobs2860]

Realy hoping those ol school empire spearme from the old starter set get re-released the ones with the round lion head shields

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

For years and years I have sworn that I'll get back into Warhammer when I can use the Tomb Kings as in 8th edition again. That time has come.

[@TheArcticMenace]

I have a list theming, the idea is seeing how many warsphinxes I can fit in 2k points, depending on their cost, I can see about 5. Imma do this because they’re my favourite tomb king model

[@MistaGuido-nk3iz]

Very awesome, really appreciate you doing these overviews. A little peeved by the Tomb King spells as a tomb king player. Dessication seems nice, but the extra move doesn't feel very tomb kingy to me. I dunno. I look forward to seeing the lore of necromancy.

[@mkulchar]

Are banners and musicians not worth it with tomb kings? Are there certain units that need it or should have it with them?

[@MegaApostel]

There will be another Journals in the future hoepefully - like I hope they will make one focus around Khalida This would also grant the chance for other new models. GW already said that not every new model/unit came out by this first release wave

[@link670]

Do you have to declare your hierophant during list building or at the start of the game? Wondering if there's any tactical advantage to including one priest on a dragon and one on foot so you can choose your hierophant to best answer your opponents list (I.e. On the dragon if they're heavy anti infantry/anti character and on foot if they've got a lot of anti monster or if you want to use the dragon more aggressively)

[@TheArcticMenace]

I think it’s when deploying, depends on wizard levels though I think?

[@LandofMert76]

What I want to know is will constructs take combat res crumbling from wounds taken by non constructs? The easiest way to kill a sphinx was to just crumble it

[@sirpaintsminiatures]

Great video!!

[@ChaosLastie]

Hero Font?

[@trentathawat6714]

The chariots look to hit like wet noodles: d3, s4 impact hits with no save modifiers. Add to the fact that they're too costly in points to buy an extra rank means they likely won't have great combat resolution, and their low unit strength (9 for three of them) means Fear won't be relevant. They seem like a very poor unit. It seems a better option to use the Chariots as mounted upgrades for characters. With the new character rules and no more annoying "what did I hit" randomization rules, chariots merely add 3 wounds to the profile of a hero - making for a VERY tanky Tomb King/Prince/Herald. With their massive 50mm x 100mm base size, plonking them in a unit displaces enough warriors/cavalry to rear ranks that you're effectively just paying the 35 point character upgrade and simultaneously buying an extra rank for the unit. I've yet to try this out, but it looks good on paper.

[@Lassemalten]

Great to be able to march without going into march formation

[@mkulchar]

You going to do kind of like list making ideas? Just getting into fantasy and no idea how to build a list or what units are good and what models to get after the main core big box

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

Don't you worry that's planned mate! Got like 50 videos still unreleased still :D

[@Sentient_Scarab_Swarm]

So like, Apophas?

[@Gotti_Huanchi]

As stated. Ap of "-" is just "0" .. probably it is in there for consistent wording. because it always says x hits with ap of "xyz"

[@gaius9240]

I’m finding your reviews for factions kinda underwhelming. I know that you don’t want to give away enough to get get in the naughty list but some more of the rules for units would be appreciated

[@zmindrick1]

Hmmm, couldt you forget the chariots?

[@Adalon-]

Tomb kings best kings

[@Karloss00]

The older models have large hands/heads/bodies/proportions because of the sculpting and mold-making at the time.

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

I know I'm fully aware it's just funny lol

[@Karloss00]

@@bzilla8566 It's really not a surprise; there's still models from 3rd edition 40K and 6th Edition Fantasy that are still in production for both 40K and AoS. It's still cheaper then eBay prices like £250 for 10 Tomb Guard.

[@TheMaltesefalcon204]

So where is Arkhan the Black duirng all this?

[@mkulchar]

Everyone is saying horse archers are the way to go and horsemen are bad and not worth taking?

[@VictoriaWargaming]

being a longtime player of KoW after the Old World blew up, i can't help but feel that GW lost an opportunity to normalise their rules of all the redundancy, streamline all the time wasting and actually improve the game. I am having a very hard time putting up with all the excess effort that achieves nothing OTHER than adding more flavor and crazy on the table for a huge increase in time effort after seeing What Alessio (who wrote WHFB 7th) achieved when he wrote Kings of War with his focus on creating a rank and flank game without all the bloat. everything feels like SO much more effort - and NO official army builder that gives validation of the list build and allows printout of ALL the rules you need for your force?

[@bendyer551]

time to eyptise some better looking skelies

[@geeksworkshop]

Regen on a 6 is almost worthless and with the amount of fire already in the game. It's not reliable, it's a meh gimmick that only works if you get lucky. I think 5s would have been fine and 4s on characters.

[@Kassen777]

fire only stops regen with flammable. So tomb king characters and the dry as dust rule. the infantry regen comes from the hierophant so it is not stopped s no it is not useless

[@geeksworkshop]

@@Kassen777 thanks

[@LandofMert76]

Doesn't look like they changed much of anything from 8th. No match, not even near general? Going to suck just like before

[@victordesena9763]

The biggest change is with the rules itself. TK sucked in 8th due to the rules, but in 6th they were fine. This ed is closer to 6th then 8th, so it should work out

[@MegaApostel]

gonna like be some doomposting without even knowing the full picture xD

[@LandofMert76]

@@MegaApostel its just my first impressions. They didn't fix any of the things that sucked in 8th. Almost a copy paste of those rules. At least we can take one unit of Tomb Guard as Core.

[@SirMeowingCat]

Out of respect to gw you sould note make any videos about it.

[@CommanderBohn]

Wait. THE BONE DRAGON ACTUALLY FLIES!? AND HAS A BREATHE ATTACK TOO!? If it were a mummy type then I’d understand it. But this is ridiculous. Even for Warhammer. Fantasy.

[@CommanderBohn]

@@justwannabehappy6735 Thing is that zombie dragons have membranes on their wings and organs that produce noxious breathes. Even the Carrions of the TKs are mummified animals and beasts (the latter due to the Giant Carrions being all but confirmed and there was a new piece of art that showed one being much larger than a horse) and thus having feathers and mummified muscles that allow them to fly. The skeleton part is due to a combination of magic and having their minds and faculties intact compared to the ones under the Vampire Counts control. Unless it's more like the Bone Dragon being partially a ghost and thus being actually a skeletal construct/spirit hybrid that allows it flight and the breathe attack is a pure magical one, then I'm still calling it ridiculous.

[@victordesena9763]

Mate if you are trying to bring logic then normal Dragons shouldn't be able to fly in the first place. They are too heavy. That is taking physics into account. But we ignore that because these things are magic, so there is honestly no problem applying that to one made of bones as well

[@CommanderBohn]

@@victordesena9763 You know what? You are right. But it's still something that fits far less the Tomb Kings than the Shard Dragon with the Dwarfs. Even if the Bone Dragon is a nod to the TK's Warmaster army list.