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Tommy Moore: Bartitsu Lab, Boxing & Gutterfighting

Tommy Moore: Bartitsu Lab, Boxing & Gutterfighting

3 жыл бұрын

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@billyjohnson2495
@billyjohnson2495 2 ай бұрын
I think this is how all martial arts began. The artsy stuff came later.
@grandygm
@grandygm 3 жыл бұрын
Just remember. In reality the other guy is doing his best not to get hurt and at the same time trying to hurt you as much as he can. That complicates things.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely! I only started doing these videos in lockdown, so trying my best with Mr Bob. But will make videos with people firing back when the plague ends!
@johngalvin3124
@johngalvin3124 2 жыл бұрын
You're doing just fine..Anything to keep it simple is good teaching.
@robertthomas3777
@robertthomas3777 Жыл бұрын
It’s only a book which is all they had at the time, except for direct instruction. He was teaching people to kill who only knew of boxing and wrestling, who were otherwise hardworking and didn’t have the opportunity or exposure to what we so readily haven on tap. The individual strikes are the musical notes. The combinations as flow are the rhythm, tune and music. Love the attire - Harry High Pants and braces. Good presentation.
@2862Gunny
@2862Gunny 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who doesn’t see the continued value of military combatives should read about Dakota Meyer and The Battle of Ganjgol in Afghanistan in 2009. He basically went through every available weapon and ultimately ended up killing a guy with a rock. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Professionals of violence!
@2862Gunny
@2862Gunny 3 жыл бұрын
We try, lol. GySgt(Ret) USMC 1992-2012
@pinslayer4579
@pinslayer4579 3 жыл бұрын
@@2862Gunny Thanks for your service Gunny......
@junheceta268
@junheceta268 3 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel whole researching the Fairbairn Method, which I consider the single best system of H2H Combat ever devised. Excellent material here.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, thank you!
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 10 ай бұрын
0:55 - Chop combos 1:20 - Why doing combos ? 5:25 - Knife hand + knife combo 6:10 - Knife hand + pen combo 8:30 - Knife hand + blackjack combo 10:05 - Knife hand + torch combo 11:10 - Chin jab combos 11:45 - Brick combos 13:30 - Conclusion
@Isiguzo.
@Isiguzo. 3 жыл бұрын
I did not search for this it just appeared on my youtube and I love it!!!
@ericrecano8557
@ericrecano8557 3 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to know more about the Fairbairn method of combat and it is fascinating how the Fairbairn flow is VERY similar to Kali’s Redondo or Heaven six flow. Very good info-thank u for sharing sir!
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne 6 ай бұрын
When it goes for real fighting all martial arts look the same or at least similar.
@billysweeney9994
@billysweeney9994 Ай бұрын
Excuse my French, but your Chin Jab is fucking phenomenal Tommy. Genuinely just sat here and screwed my face up having a "Fuck getting hit with that" reaction.
@sifublack192
@sifublack192 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this! As a combatives instructor myself, this video gave me a ton of ideas, thanks!
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate. Good luck! 🤙🥊
@zyx7478
@zyx7478 3 жыл бұрын
This gentleman definitely has flow🏆🥇 Subscribed 👍
@davidarmstrong1624
@davidarmstrong1624 3 жыл бұрын
Fairburn states that chops should never be delivered with the palm facing upwards. ''There are two ways in which this blow can be delivered: (a) Downwards, with either hand; (b) Across, with either hand; the blow always being delivered outwards, with the palm of the hand downwards, never on top''. 'Get Tough'.
@juliodefreitas157
@juliodefreitas157 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and thank you for sharing your tips. .
@colmprice6139
@colmprice6139 3 жыл бұрын
Love the page keep it up 👍
@sakurabaLP
@sakurabaLP 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice W.E Fairbairn techniques (Defendu) video, bro! Keep u good work!
@jasonkyler
@jasonkyler 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Many moons ago I was trained in a modernized version of Fairbairn's Defendu by a student/contemporary of Carl Cestari by the name of John Kary. Mr. Kary's techniques were developed in accordance with his blindness so they stressed maintaining contact. The practice of flow was an enormous part of his system. Knowing not just how I'm going to act but how the opponent(s) are most likely to react was drilled to no end. At the time I would describe it as a system of lego blocks that can be stacked to fit the circumstance on the fly. Defendu still holds up today and is an incredibly valuable tool to have in one's self-defense toolbox.
@JudgeD-hc9vw
@JudgeD-hc9vw 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Sir.
@nztelecounselling4837
@nztelecounselling4837 3 жыл бұрын
Great video !
@MF-on3oq
@MF-on3oq 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Straightforward common sense. Nothing fancy.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks fella, doing my best to entertain while the world's still plagued!
@franktower9006
@franktower9006 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I have to dive a little deeper into this channel. Great content!
@paulkirkpatrick605
@paulkirkpatrick605 3 ай бұрын
Good information basics is best unfortunately we need to train like this the way the uk is going keep up the good work 🇬🇧
@kleinjahr
@kleinjahr 3 ай бұрын
Every thing is a weapon.
@Bucky1836
@Bucky1836 2 жыл бұрын
"Dont be afraid to add a knee" dad to me as he demosntrated the flow pn me in my teens 🥴🥴🥴
@leroymorris6036
@leroymorris6036 3 жыл бұрын
good practical advice
@Sambalifter
@Sambalifter 3 жыл бұрын
just stumbled onto this channel, great content!
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers fella hope you enjoy
@heatpump8566
@heatpump8566 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a lot of conflict and my advice is always be sober and aware. Secondly don’t throw a face punch first, gouge the eyes or punch the throat. It shocks the opponent
@TheSADHU88
@TheSADHU88 7 ай бұрын
i was thinking about the same, good video!
@DaveyMulholland
@DaveyMulholland 3 жыл бұрын
"into the meat of the face" *subscribes*
@thomasarillotta6518
@thomasarillotta6518 Жыл бұрын
4/18/23 Viewing and learning; loved it!
@burntbacon7995
@burntbacon7995 Жыл бұрын
Speed, power, accuracy and opponent is down before he has time to react.
@Kriegter
@Kriegter 2 жыл бұрын
"or a pen" Yeah that one is deadly
@michaelskasick1560
@michaelskasick1560 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! You’ve earned my subscription for sure. Been looking to get more knowledgeable about the Fairbairn system - are there any books for solo study that you’d recommend?
@onebodyserviceoneshow
@onebodyserviceoneshow Жыл бұрын
🔥landed🔥
@felixfedre518
@felixfedre518 Жыл бұрын
The pen is mightier than the sword.
@robertthomas3777
@robertthomas3777 Жыл бұрын
Or as the Japanese say, ‘… pen and sword in accord…’.
@davidallen7540
@davidallen7540 Жыл бұрын
Good video
@benwilliams5236
@benwilliams5236 2 жыл бұрын
Remember to dispose of the body in a vat of lye, NOT acid. Otherwise the local constabulary will be around asking questions.
@sandmanbrian777
@sandmanbrian777 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share these insights. It is a apparently simple transition yet unless explained concisely, as you have done here, the progression is missed.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome fella
@martialway100
@martialway100 3 жыл бұрын
People also have to consider, that Fairbairn's techniques were designed for 'warfare'. In civilian life, you have to think of the legal implications, in your respective country & what is considered 'reasonable force'. If you go around stabbing people in the eye, carotid artery/jugular vein, etc., it is very unlikely that a judge will regard that as 'reasonable force', unless someone is trying to kill or potentially rape you, etc.. It would have to be a life threatening scenario, or equally serious situation, such as rape, etc., to justify that extremely violent response. If it's not a life threatening threat and you react like this, you will almost certainly be arrested and potentially sentenced to either murder, or if they are not dead, at the very minimum, grievous bodily harm. It's one thing being able to defend yourself, but an entirely different thing, going to prison for excessive force, in response to an attacker. Something to think about. Reality, is not like the movies, where you can seriously damage and kill people. There are very serious consequences for your actions. Everyone should seriously bear that in mind.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Would advise people to take due care and discretion in what they do, to whom, and why. Most confrontations never ever need to go physical
@mathunt1130
@mathunt1130 3 жыл бұрын
Fairburn learnt ba gua zhang, so transition would be a major part of the training.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely. Sadly the transitional elements between things never made it to the books, but you can see him flow so very well on film
@mathunt1130
@mathunt1130 3 жыл бұрын
@@TommyMooreww2combatives part of the transitional training has to do with making your spine move your body. It's quick to move your spine and you associate that with your arms and feet.
@mathunt1130
@mathunt1130 3 жыл бұрын
@@tatumergo3931 I understand that the judo he learnt didn't work on the streets of Shanghai and he got badly beaten. Then when he learnt baguazhang.
@mathunt1130
@mathunt1130 3 жыл бұрын
@@tatumergo3931 In general I would agree with you but I think that chinese martial arts are incredibly refined compared to japanese martial arts.
@mathunt1130
@mathunt1130 3 жыл бұрын
@@tatumergo3931 A lot of the internal martial artists show a great deal of skill and a great deal of time to become competent in. Refined in the sends that the entire body movement has to be trained with very specific instructions whereas, with Japanese MA, there is very little or none. It's left up to the practitioner to discover.
@RexMez
@RexMez 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. If you're a bit shorter (or they are much taller) , and throat strikes are out of reasonable reach, Where's best to aim for first?
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Collarbone is a great shot for an edge of hand blow using ww2 combatives as a shorter guy!
@robertlehnert4148
@robertlehnert4148 3 жыл бұрын
You have to use the WWII CQC techniques as a DEFINITE method and not a hodge podge of techniques. What Fairbairn and Sykes did at Camp X and what Applegate learned and adapted "flowed". By 1944, the low % moves in Fairbairn's GET TOUGH! had been removed from the actual instruction to the OSS, SOE, Commandos, Rangers, etc... I got this from Ralph Grasso, via the old now defunct Battlefield Forum. Your essential texts are Get Tough, Applegate's Kill or Get Killed, and Jack Dempsey's Championship Fighting. Styers' Cold Steel I think is also a must, and WEF's Hands Off! Clearly depicts the Tiger Claw, which is not in Get Tough!, but was in his earlier Scientific Self Defense. Old style boxing is the methodology, but you use open hands, knees, elbows, and shod feet to spare your hands from damage. Very unlikely you'll be able to slip on MMA fighter gloves or tactical gloves when things happen suddenly in the street. All the following should be done aggressively, with Forward Drive, Drop Step (Dempsey), body torque, etc... 1. Your straight lead punch is replaced by the Tiger Claw 2. Your "cross punch" can be a Tiger Claw or a Web of Hand (Yoke Hand) to the throat. 3. Uppercuts are replaced by the Chin Jab. Work in a forward knee drive or a stomping Post as circumstances dictate. 4. Rear hooks are turned into Forward Elbow Smash. Lead Hooks can be either a Hooking Tiger Claw or an Elbow Smash. 5. Edge of Hand strikes can be used like a boxing Back Fist against incoming upper body strikes, except with the full intention to hurt and damage the BG's hands and arms. Of course, if the path is open to prime targets in his head, neck, and torso, chop them hard, fast, and repeatedly. WHENEVER you deliver an Elbow Smash, forwards or backwards, an EoH can IMMEADIATELY follow. 6. Once you can comfortably use the hand strikes, use the Boot (AKA Flick Kick or Outside Edge of Boot kick) as an additional lead strike, often to stop a rush, OR as a close in attack with a shin scrape and instep smash. 7. In a close in clinch, apply the inner edge of foot Boot Defense. That, as we say, is a good start.
@raksh9
@raksh9 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment, lots of useful info and concepts.
@fuzzylogic33
@fuzzylogic33 4 ай бұрын
Does it not state the reason of not using clenched fists, to not damage the trigger fingers.
@NormanScyth
@NormanScyth 11 ай бұрын
Love your stuff!
@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786
@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786 5 ай бұрын
Hmm, not sure I would want to do the chin jab with a (half) brick or a rock because of the risk of injury to my own hand. Something that would require some experimentation and testing. But in terms of sketching out the general ideas in my head on this: Chin jab is pushing the load uphill to meet the target. Which may also cause the load to puncture the skin on your own hand when it contacts the enemy's face. Contrast with a downwards blow where the load assists the power of the strike and does not force the load into your hand in the same way on contact. Does that make sense?
@matthewtemkin4726
@matthewtemkin4726 2 жыл бұрын
The real key to making this work is to strike him first. Good stuff.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 2 жыл бұрын
Too right mate. Strike first, strike hard, no mercy. Cobra Kai nailed it first time
@rockydavis94
@rockydavis94 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the video right now
@rossg4788
@rossg4788 2 жыл бұрын
In Kali we call this a cycle drill or flow drill.
@websurfer352
@websurfer352 2 жыл бұрын
You need to take into account the way his body would react as you strike him!! If you strike him on the throat with a knife hand he would react by raising his hands to his throat, and that would open up target areas to either side of his torso like his liver and spleen!! If you hit his balls he would react by bending down lowering his head and opening the back of his head or his temples, that would also lower his head to you allowing you to do head manipulations!!
@Ron4dino
@Ron4dino 3 жыл бұрын
Thinks ''shit I've got a gun''....where did that come from.... great video
@aptom3333
@aptom3333 3 жыл бұрын
Found your channel after looking for videos on Col. Monsterey's Self Defense for Gentlemen and Ladies. Loads of good stuff on here, glad I stumbled in. The Fairbairn stuff reminds me of learning guitar. The first chords you'd usually learn are C major, A major, G major, E major, and D major, known as the CAGED system. First you have to learn the positions of each chord on the fret board, then you practice switching from C to A. Once you can do that reflexively, you practice C to G. Then you work your way through, until you can flow through any combination in any order. The fun part is when you realise how similar the chord shapes are when you play a bass or a ukulele or a 7 string (or more) guitar.
@BWater-yq3jx
@BWater-yq3jx 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you practise switching from C to A? You'll rarely have that sequence, as they're from different keys. C to Am would be more worthwhile. G C D go together A D E go together D G A go together
@johnbella913
@johnbella913 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see you do a video on the WWI Knuckle Dagger. What say you?
@tanawinmalisorn2936
@tanawinmalisorn2936 3 жыл бұрын
Follow you channel!!
@TonyqTNT
@TonyqTNT 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy your new book Shanghai Street Fighting? Not currently available in the United States.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Hi fella, you can order it via eBay, just search Shanghai School of Streetfighting 🙏🥊
@truebeliever8605
@truebeliever8605 3 жыл бұрын
What is your book about ?
@FranboLobo
@FranboLobo 3 жыл бұрын
It might be worth considering getting an eBook version up on Amazon, that might have a dramatic effect on circulation.
@mjt106
@mjt106 2 жыл бұрын
👌👌👌
@johngalvin3124
@johngalvin3124 3 жыл бұрын
Learn something...these moves are a great start...
@edi9892
@edi9892 3 жыл бұрын
8:46 that's not less lethal, if you crush his throat...
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent . The only way to guarantee your mans down
@aarfdood
@aarfdood 3 жыл бұрын
This dude is unassuming but scary.
@GOLIATHDarce
@GOLIATHDarce 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, Bad Ass..
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, glad you enjoy!
@taylorbee4010
@taylorbee4010 2 жыл бұрын
What's mentioned he learned a lot of stuff in Shanghai but the people giv3 proper credit that so much of this is kung Fu? Martial art that gets shit on most of the time that is really actually kind of effective
@steventhorson4487
@steventhorson4487 5 ай бұрын
😊
@taylorbee4010
@taylorbee4010 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised that Bruce Lee didn't know about any of this
@jackierabinowitz9287
@jackierabinowitz9287 2 жыл бұрын
The physical strength to put a pen in an enemy’s eye is not as important as the heart to do so. Can you address the psychological barriers we must face before utilizing these techniques ?
@Mr75044
@Mr75044 Жыл бұрын
Jackie Kill or be Killed... what more do you need... these brave men destroyed the nazi war machine.
@iamAwesomo1994
@iamAwesomo1994 2 жыл бұрын
oy you got a loicense for them?!
@bell1095
@bell1095 3 жыл бұрын
Why not blinding out the attacker for some minutes by a super-flash ?
@johndowney8007
@johndowney8007 3 жыл бұрын
Bui jee
@glennrobinson7193
@glennrobinson7193 3 жыл бұрын
One technique alone may not work. Correct. If it's the reverse edge of hand to side of neck it's very likely to knock him out. Of course I wouldn't count on it working, but look at CCTV footage, there you can find guys going out cold with only having received very light strikes to side of neck.
@briansheeran4185
@briansheeran4185 3 жыл бұрын
Can you show any links of those?
@jjs3890
@jjs3890 3 жыл бұрын
I was one of the idiots that insisted on having it tried on me. When I woke up I had a much better understanding on how it work and how to use it. Lol
@englishteacherx
@englishteacherx Жыл бұрын
Love your channel but remember it's really important to discuss the legality of knives (and other weapons) in your jurisdiction. Your chances of being arrested for carrying an lillegal knife are higher than needing to use it in most cities.
@ppixilation
@ppixilation 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you could get away with this in the UK - the police told me, at a time when I was being threatened in the street, that I was only allowed to hit an attacker once, lightly, and then I had to run away...Otherwise I would be prosecuted....Of course my feeling is that if someone attacks me, then I want to disable them in whatever way I can, but there's a big risk in law
@davelovespot5116
@davelovespot5116 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff but I would rather know know real mma or even boxing. I feel a clean jab is way more effective then a chop to the neck.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 3 жыл бұрын
I box and love boxing too. There’s all sorts of toys in the toy box for people to play with. My personal go-to is a tight right hook (southpaw), but there’s lots to enjoy in ww2 combatives too 👍
@philiphexter8618
@philiphexter8618 Жыл бұрын
Using bricks - when I was 4 I was being picked on by a bigger, older boy. I asked my dad to "tell him", but told me to be a man and sort it myself. Cheers dad, I thought, then a light-bulb moment - wait outside the boy's door with a brick in my hand, and smack him in the head when he came out. So I did! And he was out cold, lying in a pool of blood. Oops. Luckily I was too young to be prosecuted.
@maxstrengthholistics
@maxstrengthholistics 3 жыл бұрын
Is the Fairbairn system taught in the military today?
@mdub2000
@mdub2000 3 жыл бұрын
yeah is it?
@jjs3890
@jjs3890 3 жыл бұрын
Check “Defendu” it is a collaboration of Fairbain, Sykes, O’Neil and was thought to WWII military. All these methods on this video are part of it.
@TommyMooreww2combatives
@TommyMooreww2combatives 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not but elements naturally can be seen indirectly. But if Britain ever developed an official close combat system I’d love this to be part of it
@maxstrengthholistics
@maxstrengthholistics 2 жыл бұрын
@@TommyMooreww2combatives I'm surprised Fairbairn-Sykes's work wasn't making a comeback during the krav maga craze.
@carloparisi9945
@carloparisi9945 3 жыл бұрын
--- delete pun attempt gone wrong
@lilalali6753
@lilalali6753 3 жыл бұрын
You would be surprised by a Hun. I am one from Hungary.
@carloparisi9945
@carloparisi9945 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilalali6753 wasn't it a nick used for wermacht soldiers or was it Jerry instead? Sounds like I misspoke, sorry.
@lilalali6753
@lilalali6753 3 жыл бұрын
@@carloparisi9945 no need to delete anything. It is correct, the Germans were called Huns by Antant forces. They are, but they do not know it any more, especially since they fancy beeing Aria. Great king Atilla, the Hun organised them to fight against the bloody Roman Empire and included them in his empire. They mention Atilla in their heroic story called Edda. But the real Huns (Scitihans) are the Hungarians. Polish are also from the family of Scithans, but they lost their language. Same thing with Bulgarians... ---- As of fighting, Systema is another level.
@Master-AGN
@Master-AGN 4 ай бұрын
Flow is nice fun to practice, however you’re missing one point, people rely on flow because they can’t take their opponent out with one strike. However, when you’re in combat it gets harder to hit your target. So that’s a self-defeating process. You’re not sparring you’re trying to kill a person. Conversely, if you learn to punch from your feet up, using the whole momentum and your muscular force you will likely knock the opponent out and or damage the opponent severely. However 1 strike training is boring. It’s repetitive. So which is a better use of your training time? From my own example, I had this guy telling me how great his kung fu was…
@Master-AGN
@Master-AGN 4 ай бұрын
I said him you float like a butterfly and most probably sting like one too. He took umbrage and challenge me. And he did. And he crumpled like a cheap suit with one fully body heavy strike. Now for all the modern boys out there this was 30 years ago when the police never bothered with the boys enjoying rough play. So don’t say you’re calling BS when the only flight you have ever had is with your mumsy over not cleaning up your used kleenex.
@kingelmoxleyi-j-l-s-atrump9912
@kingelmoxleyi-j-l-s-atrump9912 2 жыл бұрын
None of this shit works in real life
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