Babylon the Great Has Fallen! // THE BOOK OF REVELATION: Session 52

[@michaellakous311]

It's refreshing to hear teachings you'll almost never hear in church. The end times must be important because it is talked about regularly in the bible.

[@Forgiven_Disciple]

Oh yes and AMEN

[@susanjane2498]

It is very important! Do you want to go home where you are loved more than you ever could imagine? I know I sure do. This world is not at all what I thought it was as I was growing up as a child. But, it's only been about the last 5 years that I've really been aware of how much evil there is here, and it's only going to get worse. There's so much corruption in the world now, but we need to be the good that we can be, we need to be the light to show the way of Jesus. Thank God the days will be shortened or no man will survive.

[@smittyjetson]

It tells us to read and keep the words of revelation. That it is for the church.

[@hleigh7201]

@@smittyjetson What do you mean by, "that is it for the church?" Maybe it's because I have a pounding headache, but I can't figure out what you mean.

[@smittyjetson]

@@hleigh7201 I have a big headache too! I said revelation is for the church. Pretribbers dismiss it as being for the Jews but that’s wrong. He who has an ear let him hear what the spirit says TO THE CHURCHES. To him that overcometh, will I give to eat of the tree of life which is in the midst of the paradise of God. revelation 2:7 - this is Jesus himself saying this so… We are to strive to overcome the tribulation. Hold on until the end and you will be saved. To claim the book of revelation is for the Jews only is preposterous. How many Jews you think are reading the New Testament? They will after the rapture that’s for sure. Also, revelation 22:16 - I Jesus have sent mine Angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and offspring of David and the bright and morning star.

[@shellyb.5224]

I had the same conversation tonight with my Rapture believing friend, who doesn't care if her understanding is incorrect. I offered to sit down together and study, not so I can be right, but so if I am incorrect or she is incorrect, we can help each other not be deceived. To me, the Truth is the most important thing, not me being right.

[@smittyjetson]

Tell your friend that pre trib is a false teaching and if she’s spreading it then she is guilty of adding and or taking away from the word. The penalty for that is on the last page of the Bible.

[@micheletubaj7924]

So many people having rapture dreams! The rapture is biblical I will keep you from the hour of trial that will fall upon the whole world! The church is not mentioned past Revelation 3 then we are mentioned when we come back with Jesus after the Tribulation is over ! Rapture is in the bible ask God for the truth he will show you! Go to God and ask him yourself don't trust what mans pea brains think.

[@smittyjetson]

@@micheletubaj7924 the church is mentioned plenty of times. Who are the saints being persecuted? Oh right, you’re going to tell me they are the tribulation saints. An entirely different set of people. Then I tell you, sorry but that’s not biblical. Then you come back with, you have no faith! Do you really think God would make the church go thru the wrath of God?!? He tells us no! To which I say, you are confusing the tribulation in its entirety to the wrath of God. That starts after the seventh seal is opened. It’s actually pretty clear but the bulk of the modern church has been deceived into believing Darby and his evil teaching of a pre tribulation rapture. You will fall away as a result. Good luck.

[@micheletubaj7924]

@@smittyjetson We are the bride! The saints are the ones saved during the Tribulation! There will be many saved during the Tribulation We are the Bride! God is coming to get his Bride before that great and terrible day ! Great for the true believers Terrible for the luke warm and non believers ! There will be many who come to christ during the Tribulation they will be martered for their faith! Please read the bible so you know truth that bible is the living word of God! If you don't understand it ask for wisdom and knowledge God will clearly show you truth.

[@smittyjetson]

@@micheletubaj7924 you do that. How are people getting saved when all the people with the info TO GET saved are gone? Do you think that these people who suddenly want to get saved during this horrible time are going to have time to read the Bible and figure it out when they weren’t reading the Bible in the first place? The Bible will be outlawed. The world needs the church at this time. No way is God taking us out early. Perseverance is what we are told. Make it to the end.

[@KingsDaughter.]

Not long after I came to God I had this dream. I've never read the book of Revelation before to notice scriptures about Babylon the great. In 2010 I had a dream. In my dream I was in a big, like mega church. I was sitting in the side seats of the church, that were raised above the big middle part. Church was like in sports stadium with thousands and thousands of people. We were waiting for a prophet to come and speak to people. I remember being very excited in anticipation to hear from God. A lady comes to "the stage"/pulpit and she was just absolutely beautiful. I thought to myself 'wow how beautiful is she'. She was prophecying over people and I was hoping she will have a word from the Lord for me too. But there were soooo many people, thousands and thousands so I doubted God will pick me. Suddenly she looks in my direction and she calls me out by my name 'Sasha'. I was like wow it's God speaking to me, she even knows my name, so I was even more excited! She starts priphecying over me some things about my past That I knew already I had overcome with God and that I have been forgiven, so I thought maybe God wants to bring more freedom into that area, but instead she then suddenly stops and leaves it at that. All the time she was "prophecying" there was nothing about Jesus or the gospel, just some "words of knowledge of the past". I was quite shocked because there was no Jesus in it and I got very angry because there are so many people multitude listening to her and think that some person with some "knowledge about them" is God speaking to them even if there is no Jesus or a way to Jesus. She continued speaking over people and people looked like they worshipped her "gift" and I was getting even more angry. When she finished "prophecying" she left "the stage" and I decided I will follow her and confront her. She walked up the stairs that lead "behind the stage" so I followed her not quite been able to catch up to her. At the top of the stairs there was a huge double door, like those ancient old heavy doors and she went in and doors closed. As I walked to the door I instantly knew what was happening behind that door, although I couldn't see with my eyes, I knew what was happening behind the closed door. She is a prostitute and this is where is she with her lovers and there was many. It made me feel absolutely sick to my stomach. And at that point I was even more angry and also very grieved for people who have no idea about what is happening behind closed doors and worshipped her as a prophetess from God. The biggest thing that struck me that she wasn't only seducing such large number of people in the world, but it was in the church where people believe they are following Christ and the Father. She was invited into the church buildings and the Body of Christ had no discernment. End of the dream. A few months later, I opened the bible at revelation 17 And read it. At the end of the chapter the verse jumped out at me saying that "the woman you saw in your vision represents the great city that rules over the kings of the earth" I knew instantly that this is the woman from my dream. I then started to study more about this prophecy and after all these years I still see this dream in my mind, it's etched into my memory.

[@scott596]

Mecca Saudi Arabia

[@sabbathd1]

Wow, thank you for sharing. I pray the LORD speak to me in a dream or vision. God Bless you

[@scott596]

@@sabbathd1 God said you will have Dream's and Vision's and pray for the Greatest Gift of Prophecy, and you will have it, through the Power of the Holy Spirit ! God Bless you

[@scott596]

@Redemption Song Islam and Mecca Saudi Arabia Mystery Babylon The Great, the Mother of Harlot's, the Women that Ride's the Beast Islam, the Who're of Babylon Islam. The Image of the Great Red Dragon The Great Serpent that Old Serpent the Devil Satan Allah, the Kabba Stone in Mecca Saudi Arabia

[@KingsDaughter.]

@@scott596 I believe so too about Mecca

[@avizxaviolamaharaj9170]

Blessings of Gratitude for FAI Brother Joel, Brother Dalton and Crew for Preaching the TRUTH of Yeshua Yahuah Elohim Amen Shabbath Shalom Maranatha🙏🏼🔥♥️🇸🇪

[@ourdailybread1099]

Sister, "Yahuah" doesn't mean Jesus, and saying "Shabbath Shalom Maranatha" makes no sense too. Do you know Hebrew?

[@ourdailybread1099]

@svenshanah Asking a question and helping someone in error is harrassment to you? If you loved your brothers and sisters, you would correct them, especially when they're using a false name for Christ.

[@christianwarrior249]

Were living in the last days God bless

[@according2hismercy355]

My grandmother had a unclean hateful goose... She was so MEAN. She use to chase us around the yard. 😆 I'm so blessed to have found you guys early on after finding Christ... better said He found me. I have learned so much from. FAI and as soon as I get on my feet I want to support as much as I can untill then FAI is deeply in my prayers. Bless you guys for all the brilliant and faithful work you do. 🙏

[@stephenszucs8439]

I went to college where there was a wild bird sanctuary across the road from the campus. We were often chased by Canadian geese. Those things are mean!

[@martinkent333]

No education eh?

[@Travisaballou]

I began to understand more and more when I started letting the bible explain the bible. I feel that Genesis to Revelation explains God's covenant relationship with the Israelites from the beginning with Adam to the end of the old covenant. Christ started the new covenant which we are in today and it has no end.

[@careywatchmenhieatt1079]

I absolutely love you guys, can't wait till we all in one accord praise God together O boy going to be the good good. Amen

[@debbiewareing1178]

Really, quite amazing how many people dogmatically believe their own interpretation. Look to scripture without trying to shoehorn what you may have been taught in error. I have read Joel’s book Mystery, Babylon, it makes perfect sense and ALL the fingers in the glove fit perfectly. Obviously there will be small details we all get wrong. Wait until he goes through all the popular theories and see which has most merit SCRIPTURALLY! Let’s be humble before our Lord and maker and open our ears, so that we may hear. Excellent, Joel, keep up the great work. God bless and Maranatha

[@discipledougnews1079]

I have always believed and said, that no way can we in our limited understanding know completely how it will all go down, when it finally does go down. I find myself waffling back and forth on some of these topics when I find new biblical evidence promoting a theory, or demoting it. I have seen Joel's lengthy study message on mystery Babylon as it relates to the Turkish led Caliphate and while I will not ever likely oppose that theory, there are some parts of it that give me pause - mainly because some of the main points which Joel teased herein, still lead me to another direction. So, I can't wait for the next few sessions to see how the "glove" fits in the current teachings.

[@kirkkirkland7244]

Mystery Babylon is definitely Mecca!!! Everything points to it and it even says it's by the Red Sea!!!

[@discipledougnews1079]

@@kirkkirkland7244 Babylon is much bigger than some small Mecca, its too global to be refined into something so small. Its a world system started by the old city of Babylon in Iraq. Centuries prior to Christ the coupling of China on the Silk Roads to Iraq were known as the birth of free capitalism. It is much, much bigger than Mecca.

[@mikenelson7894]

This should have 100 thousand views and thumbs up. Thank you Joel for your personal sacrifice

[@deneensanders4117]

I believe that America is definitely Mystery Babylon, the reason I believe this is because of Jeremiah 50.

[@jdw-616]

Jeremiah 51 as well, look where her enemies are plotting against her, to the north.

[@droqueplot]

No doubt in my mind that in context the great merchants of the earth that has deceived all the nations with her sorcery is no doubt pharmaceuticals. Yes some have been safe but most only deal with the symptoms not the root causes therefore most people have been deceived into taking them and then furthering the body’s dis-ease with its toxic affects and not addressing the problem at its root.

[@michaelnance8319]

The Antichrist will not come from a revive Roman Empire, but from a caliphate that will be reformed in the near future with ten nations that will support Him and the harlot will be betrayed by the Antichrist and Jesus will show up after the Antichrist has invaded Israel. All these things will take place. The United States will be apart of the Antichrist system, but will not participate in Armageddon because the Antichrist will weaken the United States military and economic system to the point that it will watch the Antichrist takes over most of the Earth and then invade Israel after the seven year peace treaty.

[@qwerty-so6ml]

@@michaelnance8319 THE AntiChrist is Barack Hussein Obama. Rev 17 /18 Harlot, that Great City = NYC. The destruction of NYC is printed on the US $100 and $10.

[@AnthonyCroydon909]

The problem is that you should not divide the United States from her true mother country, Vatican City.

[@Kristy_not_Kristine]

Thank you! It's also refreshing to hear someone teach this as one revelation, singular. So many incorrectly call it Revelations, plural.

[@shulamitebeautifulbride]

MATTHEW 23:34-37. OH Jerusalem, Jerusalem....Jesus

[@rosepearson4162]

OOOOO I am so excited for this!

[@yeniguslij]

Thank God we will not be here when endtime Babylon is revealed and then destroyed.

[@daveseibert9390]

Thank You Sir, Greatly appreciated!

[@uncommonunity787]

I love what you said at the beginning about how churches do not talk about this topic, and worse, how most churches teach Revelation and the end as: "We escape and do not need to face all of the horror that will be witnessed worldwide." (sadly my church teaches this, though they are spot on with the rest of the scriptures). The reality is, most churches are unprepared for the days ahead, and I believe that this is by design so God can bring many closer to Him after many others fall away when the false 'escape' does not come.

[@TERoss-jk9ny]

Yes. This is why I quit attending church. Pastors will be judged harshly because they did not PREPARE their flocks. I absolutely love all the pastors I’ve had, from growing up in Southern California, to Oklahoma, Texas & Idaho, yet not one has properly preached on the “rapture”, of those being “taken up”, and most importantly, how to prepare and survive to bless others in these horrific times.

[@margiechism]

@@TERoss-jk9ny I was given the argument ■ but Revelation 19 has always stand; Jesus returns after the beast has had 42 months to display the pitifulness of a Godless creature where forever torment in the lake of fire is the least merit for judgement.

[@susanyeomans2276]

Our church also is a great Bible-based church, but sadly, 99% believe in pre-trib rapture, even though the Pastors do not preach it from the pulpit.

[@gtw4546]

Not most, but rather most in America. The persecuted church doesn't teach escape, but rather to "suffer well."

[@angiegraham2579]

This is so important and teaching like this is so rare. Too many are leaning on their own understanding at a time when they need to be listening to God and asking for his revelation for them. Too many are believing that they are going to e raptured so this will not affect them.

[@margaretconnors5879]

Thank you Brother Joel. This has realy got me thinking. I won't say what, I will wait and see what I get out of the rest of the study. BLESSINGS TO YOU AND YOUR DEAR WIFE AND FAMILY. MARANATHA

[@TheWatchmanWebsite]

Thank you Joel my brother!

[@sabbathd1]

What a great Blessing this teaching has been to my soul, thank you GOD BLESS YOU

[@repentancenow]

This is, One of the main reason I got the FAI app , different perspective on important topics, in line with scripture

[@richardpyles1682]

It's not about leaving reality for Heaven it's about connecting the two

[@richardpyles1682]

But those realities broken so we're going to have a new Heaven on Earth You do see that's new heaven also

[@themaranathaplumbline2023]

Clear and Sound

[@twatquat3322]

Thank you so much for this presentation and all of the hard work you do....I've always wavered back and forth between The Vatican and the U.S.A being Babylon. I've also heard some preacher' s say that the Modern State of Israel qualifies and some take it Extremely Literally, that Babylon is literally rebuilt in Iraq and becomes very Powerful because a lot of Modern day Governments give it the money and resources to build it up to be Powerful....God Bless You and your channel 🙌🙏❤

[@DiscoverJesus]

I think Steph is a brilliant teacher

[@daughterofthelord01]

Thank you for these videos! Maranatha !!

[@calledisrael434]

'Come out of her my people' is God saying leave Jerusalem [the Great Harlot] as it is about to be burnt up with fire!! [ Neutron fire leaving nothing ] 'and they will see the torment of her burning from the Coastland'!!....Marnatha Shalom....old Messianic Jew

[@kimcooney1188]

Glad you will be taking time to talk about the sorcery aspect. It’s been really disturbing hearing/watching the growing interest and popularity with the psychedelics etc it’s such deception and demonic. Also, loved your beautiful revelation on praise and thanksgiving to our God.

[@yuvenmuniandy7844]

It's NEOM Saudi Arabia.

[@scott596]

Image of the Beast the Kabba Stone from Mecca Saudi Arabia a Meteor Asteroid Fallen Morning Star Cast Out of Heaven, the Great Red Dragon The Great Serpent that Old Serpent the Devil Satan Allah the Fallen Crescent Morning Star Cast Out of Heaven.

[@CraigStephens777]

Hallelujah and Amen 🙏

[@joshable337]

Rath of God is any second!

[@lCdGarcia]

Good stuff Joel

[@dantealexander57]

Love listening to your teachings because you actually take time to interpret and explain scripture. I feel a lot of people today have gone to looking at the happenings in the world and transposing or fitting it to scripture when it doesn't necessarily fit. I feel there is danger in that because if these things/signs don't pan out the way people thought they would you might have people deciding to stop looking for or listening for the right things/signs because they're exhausted from the time they spent looking at, listening to or misinterpreting the wrong things if that makes sense. I guess I like to think when prophecy comes to pass, you're gonna know and won't have to do a lot of investigating, piecing together (or trying on as Joel mentions with the gloves)to realize something is a part of prophecy.

[@johnbishop8993]

Interesting to evaluate which nations fit the descriptions of Harlot, an analysis of each commodities listed points to one nation above the others, in addition, to the music producers

[@jeffm8423]

USA and specifically NYC. Replacing statues of Moses, Teddy R and others with satanic statues.

[@derekharrison8889]

America!

[@Carlo-qj5jl]

Babylon has fallen down, fallen down, fallen down... Babylon has fallen down, my fair lady...

[@richardpyles1682]

You can change water into wine Walk on water And Transform in the twinkling of an eye

[@richardpyles1682]

If you have faith the size of a mustard seed you can do even more

[@realtimebiblicalinterpreta6972]

Toronto, for sure. 100% sure. Known fhis since December 1998.

[@margiechism]

sorceries ■ Revelation 18:23; is why to "come out." The deception of the temptation/experiment is detailed in Revelation 3:10.

[@JamesHolben]

"Come out of her my people" can have numerous applications. If you subscribe to it meaning "to leave the apostate church", there is some validity to that interpretation. It certainly can mean to leave the physical location of "Mystery Babylon". God's Holy Spirit will impress upon your heart how to apply this if you are indeed a part of "my people". Maranatha

[@educational4434]

The text does not say that it just happens in one day. It says that Mystery: Babylon the Great's destruction comes in one single hour on one day. One hour. 60 minutes, total annihilation and destruction never to be inhabited again. Someone explain to me how that doesn't describe nuclear destruction

[@randymarcum4216]

Hour in bible according to a day of 1000 years an a 1000 years a day is 41.6666666667 days, this worked out on Bush seniors first war against Babylon in which he said war was over,initially it was the end of old Babylon which Sadam Hussein wanted to revive

[@debradevonne3225]

😇 so many diverse opinions + everyone thinks they have the puzzle solved

[@Matrix_red_pills]

@michaelarchangel4134 chill mon, did Jesus himself not say that even he did not know the timing of his return. There are many parts of scripture that are a mystery and parts that aren't. Be humble my friend. Try to be more welcoming when an opportunity presents to invite Brethren investigate the scripture of God. It is in fact a wonderful mystery, and not one person except for the trinity knows it completely.

[@ministarick]

It’s seems that the teacher does not see her, though it would appear he lives in her. America the daughter Babylon gets a pass because he does not acknowledge her atrocities, our history and origins. He sees no need for repentance in the here and now of present sins and abominations before God. Our fate is sealed.We would have healed,but She would not be healed.

[@jeffm8423]

Agreed

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

America will be destroyed beyond recognition soon. Israel is quietly being set up to be center of the world with the belt and road initiative, and ruling over the region similar to how Solomon ruled over a trade bloc in the region and had fleets of merchant ships and was even earning 666 talents of gold at one point. People may not like it emotionally, but the scriptures pinpoints Babylon as the great city where our Lord was crucified and guilty of the blood of the prophets: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23) Is it a coincidence in Revelation the harlot comes riding on a red beast in the wilderness (the Temple Institute in Jerusalem is preparing a red heifer sacrifice to bring back the temple ministry, which in Torah was prescribed to be carried out in the wilderness) and dressed in the colors and jewels describing the high priestly garment from Exodus 28.4-11? A Jerusalem Post 2017 article lets the cat out of the bag that Israel will be the capital of the nwo, titled “Israel and the unexpected new world order” All nations (‘waters’ are nations/peoples as explained in Rev 17.15) will gather to where she sits in false worship as they did at the tower of Babel, but first a traumatic global crisis must be engineered to ‘bring the world together.’ Beware Babylon’s armies of false teachers, trolls and bots flooding the web with misdirections and diversions to NYC, Rome, Edom, etc, etc. none of which are where our Lord was crucified or where the prophets were slain.

[@bobbybranham4830]

I just discovered your site and i love the videos thank you and God bless

[@deneensanders4117]

The United States aka Mystery Babylon absolutely fits.

[@audioillustrator5338]

It reminds a bit of this scripture: Zechariah 2:6Up! Up! Flee from the land of the north, declares the Lord. For I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heavens, declares the Lord. 7Up! Escape to Zion, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon. 8For thus said the Lord of hosts, after his glory sent me to the nations who plundered you, for he who touches you touches the apple of his eye: 9“Behold, I will shake my hand over them, and they shall become plunder for those who served them. Then you will know that the Lord of hosts has sent me. 10Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion, for behold, I come and I will dwell in your midst, declares the Lord. 11And many nations shall join themselves to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people. And I will dwell in your midst, and you shall know that the Lord of hosts has sent me to you. 12And the Lord will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land, and will again choose Jerusalem.”

[@cindyc]

4 winds thought Rev 7 1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads

[@db7354]

@audioillustrator5338 Yes, agreed. The context of that scripture is definitely the end of this age and it points to Babylon being north of Israel, not south like Mecca.

[@richardpyles1682]

1000 Years of Peace plan Is in Pentagon city in a tent on the Pentagon reservation

[@jacqueshowell1400]

NY City doesnt ring any bells? United Nations HQ there...a Statue of. Queen with crown, WallStreet and all the merchants are there...

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

America will be destroyed beyond recognition soon. Israel is quietly being set up to be center of the world with the belt and road initiative, and ruling over the region similar to how Solomon ruled over a trade bloc in the region and had fleets of merchant ships and was even earning 666 talents of gold at one point. People may not like it emotionally, but the scriptures pinpoints Babylon as the great city where our Lord was crucified and guilty of the blood of the prophets: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23) Is it a coincidence in Revelation the harlot comes riding on a red beast in the wilderness (the Temple Institute in Jerusalem is preparing a red heifer sacrifice to bring back the temple ministry, which in Torah was prescribed to be carried out in the wilderness) and dressed in the colors and jewels describing the high priestly garment from Exodus 28.4-11? A Jerusalem Post 2017 article lets the cat out of the bag that Israel will be the capital of the nwo, titled “Israel and the unexpected new world order” All nations (‘waters’ are nations/peoples as explained in Rev 17.15) will gather to where she sits in false worship as they did at the tower of Babel, but first a traumatic global crisis must be engineered to ‘bring the world together.’ Beware Babylon’s armies of false teachers, trolls and bots flooding the web with misdirections and diversions to NYC, Rome, Edom, etc, etc. none of which are where our Lord was crucified or where the prophets were slain.

[@Littleangel_-jp4xb]

It's nowhere in America...

[@jackieking5860]

Wow. My first time listening checking in from memphis tn

[@silverlining2150]

😂 the unclean bird comment, made me laugh out loud!!! Good stuff.. As always another good teaching !

[@thomasjaworski7888]

The reason Satan attacks his own false church is to deceive because people will think that this woman riding the beast that is destroyed by the devil must be the true church. Why would Satan attack his own? This is one of the great deceptions it's very convincing. He who has wisdom.... The lord has showed me this. 14:12

[@smittyjetson]

I think Babylon is America. Has to be. What other country would the merchants of the world lament the loss of?

[@jeffm8423]

Exactly 👍💯

[@SnickerbarConsciousness]

Yes, America is Babylon the great also the second beast coming out of the earth with two horns.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

America will be destroyed beyond recognition soon. Israel is being set up to be center of the world with the belt and road initiative, and ruling over the region similar to how Solomon ruled over a trade bloc in the region and had fleets of merchant ships and was even earning 666 talents of gold at one point. People may not like it emotionally, but the scriptures pinpoints Babylon as the great city where our Lord was crucified and guilty of the blood of the prophets: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23) Is it a coincidence in Revelation the harlot comes riding on a red beast in the wilderness (the Temple Institute in Jerusalem is preparing a red heifer sacrifice to bring back the temple ministry, which in Torah was prescribed to be carried out in the wilderness) and dressed in the colors and jewels describing the high priestly garment from Exodus 28.4-11? A Jerusalem Post 2017 article lets the cat out of the bag that Israel will be the capital of the nwo, titled “Israel and the unexpected new world order” All nations (‘waters’ are nations/peoples as explained in Rev 17.15) will gather to where she sits in false worship as they did at the tower of Babel, but first a traumatic global crisis must be engineered to ‘bring the world together.’ Beware Babylon’s armies of false teachers, trolls and bots flooding the web with misdirections and diversions to NYC, Rome, Edom, etc, etc. none of which are where our Lord was crucified or where the prophets were slain.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

More from my notes. _In the Bible the only usage of the phrases “in the hand” and “in the foreheads” are all in the Law of Moses and refer to keeping the commandments, statutes, judgments and holy seasons or days given to Israelites in the time of Moses. The first reference is Exodus 13:9 where it states the Days of Unleavened Bread associated with the Passover were given “for a sign unto you upon your hand, and for a memorial between your eyes [in the forehead].”_ _The word “sign” in the above verse is translated “mark” in its second occurrence in the Bible and it refers to the “mark” given to Cain (Genesis 4:15). The biblical definition of the “mark” (or “sign”) in the hand and forehead is associated with holy days on the Mosaic calendar. The next usage refers to the commandments, statutes and judgments that the Israelites were to perform when they entered the land of Canaan._ _“You shall bind them for a sign [or mark] upon your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes [in the forehead].” Deuteronomy 6:8_ _The third reference is similar to this and is given in Deuteronomy 11:18. The weekly Sabbath is described as such a “sign” (or MARK) in Exodus 31:12-17._ _If we let the Bible interpret the Bible then the MARK (or sign) in the hand and in the forehead of Revelation 13:16-17 refers to the keeping of the Mosaic legislation - its holy day system and regulations for the people of Israel in the land of Canaan. And this is what the Antichrist will subject the world to when he commences his reign in Jerusalem just before the true Second Advent. He will display to the world his supposed divinity, the world will accept it, he will sit himself with great ceremony in the temple at Jerusalem, and then proclaim himself the true divinity come from heaven to reside among men (2 Thessalonians 2:4)._ From "The Antichrist Will Establish the Mosaic Law" by the late Ernest L. Martin. --- _"And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were BUYING AND SELLING in the temple"_ (Mat 21.12) In Revelation 13 we have the second beast/false prophet who comes imitating the signs of Elijah to do 3 important things the rabbis expect Elijah to do: 1) Renew the Sinai covenant marriage which in the Torah came with sealing the congregation with the mark of the Name of God in the forehead and hand in dedication of thoughts and works through the Aaronic Benediction as symbolized by the tefillin (Mark of the beast); 2) restore the sacrifices which only those in the covenant could participate in with the money-changers and merchants Yeshua threw out (buying and selling); 3) regather and number the tribes in a census as in the books of Numbers and Ezra by heads of family names (number of names/number of men). These are expected by the rabbis for Elijah to perform before the arrival of their (false) messiah who will enforce the Sinai covenant marriage in defiance of the new covenant marriage announced by Jeremiah who said it would not be like the one at Sinai (Jeremiah 31). Hence, the law is for the lawless (1Tim 1.9) and we know the false messiah is also called the lawless one (2Thes 2.8).

[@FaCePlaNt_4_YAHUSHA]

​@@AllOtherNamesUsed amen, and Amen to that..

[@Go4DonDON]

Glad your back

[@johnmackens2857]

when I read Rev chapter 18, it describes a place that has the most power, wealth and influence over the earth. What great city contains the financial center and power of the world? New York. The merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries. America. The kings of the earth see the smoke of her burning. (9-11)Woe to you great city of Babylon, in one hour, your doom has come. What was the center of world trade? The World Trade Center. Within one hour, both towers fell. We like to think Babylon still refers to Iraq, but that is nothing but a desert wasteland. AMERICA is the center of self indulgence, riches and excess. WE have corrupted the world.

[@jeffm8423]

👍💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

America will be destroyed beyond recognition soon. Israel is quietly being set up to be center of the world with the belt and road initiative, and ruling over the region similar to how Solomon ruled over a trade bloc in the region and had fleets of merchant ships and was even earning 666 talents of gold at one point. People may not like it emotionally, but the scriptures pinpoints Babylon as the great city where our Lord was crucified and guilty of the blood of the prophets: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23) Is it a coincidence in Revelation the harlot comes riding on a red beast in the wilderness (the Temple Institute in Jerusalem is preparing a red heifer sacrifice to bring back the temple ministry, which in Torah was prescribed to be carried out in the wilderness) and dressed in the colors and jewels describing the high priestly garment from Exodus 28.4-11? A Jerusalem Post 2017 article lets the cat out of the bag that Israel will be the capital of the nwo, titled “Israel and the unexpected new world order” All nations (‘waters’ are nations/peoples as explained in Rev 17.15) will gather to where she sits in false worship as they did at the tower of Babel, but first a traumatic global crisis must be engineered to ‘bring the world together.’ Beware Babylon’s armies of false teachers, trolls and bots flooding the web with misdirections and diversions to NYC, Rome, Edom, etc, etc. none of which are where our Lord was crucified or where the prophets were slain.

[@derekharrison8889]

Totally agree! America is KNOWN AS A FEMALE! God bless America song says, stand beside HER AND GUIDE HER!

[@jeremywright9312]

Can’t be sure, but sounds a lot like the UN in New York

[@MicStowe]

So I'm halfway through this and I'm where I'm personally at when reading Revelation: It's either Rome or the United States and no matter which---one is surely on the other's "merchant" list and drinking of the filthy cup as it were. Okay, I'm going back in to see if the presenter indicates his guess...

[@gtw4546]

I've read his book. He covers all the various interpretations against a rubric of "what does the Bible say" and "how well does that idea fit." I think you'll change your mind once you hear Joel cover all the options.

[@KT-et5vn]

The two are not separate but one rules over the other.

[@bryanrivera-rivera1317]

NEOM, Saudi Arabia is Babylon the Great. It fits everything about the great city, minus the blood of the saints, but since we're not in the End Times yet that will happen too. Once NEOM rises to power, likely between 2035-2060, we will see the world change. And before anyone says we're just too close to the End, read Daniel 8 and 11. Those visions will take many decades to centuries.

[@gtw4546]

@@bryanrivera-rivera1317 Good points, but I don't think pilgramages to Neom will be pushed like pilgramages to Mecca are.

[@carolyndice2425]

Looking forward to your take on sorcery……

[@TinaYonce-zk8fq]

the book of Daniel and Revelation coincided with their interpretation of King Nebuchadnezzars dream. The Iron in the legs and feet of the Beast. Roman Catholic Papacy healing from its wound, coming into its power again.

[@sharononeill6477]

'Come out of her', refers to churches that practice false, pagan doctrine and traditions of man that are not biblical such as Christmas and Easter that were integrated into Christianity by Constantine as a means of control and are not God's holy days per Leviticus 23.

[@Bladianqzeeeennnn]

Amen

[@TheLorraineclelland]

Vatican anyone?

[@miblvd431]

16:58 you are speaking specific reinforcement with your hands her, straight hand twice means solid direct instruction but what does the fore finger and the pinky up straight and the middle fingers tight into the palm and the thumb out straight mean?

[@JAAB9296]

Could you guys increase the volume on your end? I watch your shows on a laptop and my volume is very limited. I know many people can hear you guys just fine which is great however it is easier to turn down their volume than for me and others not to be able to hear the show. Thanks.

[@GinaSiska]

I have difficulty hearing as well.

[@witnessesforchristcolorado9893]

Headphones would help you tremendously

[@houseontherock8345]

I don’t have any dogma about this one. It’s one of the few that have multiple theories that I sort of can see. I do find it interesting that their is a city currently being built in Saudi Arabia called Neom. I don’t know much, but I know they’re planing it. It’s supposed to be better than Dubai and it’ll be located in the middle of the desert and by the sea. I dunno though about this subject. It’s a tougher one for me.

[@JustSayin444]

On top of the location making sense, Saudi Arabia has made the world rich (through oil) is SEEN as a Harlot by the beast nations (other Islamic nations despise it for its dealing with the West) it is one of the top financiers of terrorism (drinks blood of the saints). I don't see how the US could be viewed as the one drinking the blood of the saints. I'm not saying the US doesn't pose difficulties for Christians, but it's not actively murdering them like other countries have been doing for hundreds/thousands of years. In fact, the US is likely the safest place for Christians. Our current "tribulations" as Christians here are laughable to Christians throughout history.

[@soundimpact4633]

Check out Nur-Sultan (formerly Astana) capital of Kazakhstan. It has been touted as the capital of the New World order... And look for the president's "handprint" in the tower.

[@EthanM498]

Could the city of babylon be Abu Dubai? They are insanely rich and most very wealthy people do business with the royal families. and the abrahamic family house is being built there. Its 3 temples for christianity, judaism, and islam that was developed by the muslim leaders and backed by pope francis.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Israel is quietly being set up to be center of the world with the belt and road initiative, and ruling over the region similar to how Solomon ruled over a trade bloc in the region and had fleets of merchant ships and was even earning 666 talents of gold at one point. People may not like it emotionally, but the scriptures pinpoints Babylon as the great city where our Lord was crucified and guilty of the blood of the prophets: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23) Is it a coincidence in Revelation the harlot comes riding on a red beast in the wilderness (the Temple Institute in Jerusalem is preparing a red heifer sacrifice to bring back the temple ministry, which in Torah was prescribed to be carried out in the wilderness) and dressed in the colors and jewels describing the high priestly garment from Exodus 28.4-11? A Jerusalem Post 2017 article lets the cat out of the bag that Israel will be the capital of the nwo, titled “Israel and the unexpected new world order” All nations (‘waters’ are nations/peoples as explained in Rev 17.15) will gather to where she sits in false worship as they did at the tower of Babel, but first a traumatic global crisis must be engineered to ‘bring the world together.’ Beware Babylon’s armies of false teachers, trolls and bots flooding the web with misdirections and diversions to NYC, Rome, Edom, etc, etc. none of which are where our Lord was crucified or where the prophets were slain.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

From my notes: _In the Bible the only usage of the phrases “in the hand” and “in the foreheads” are all in the Law of Moses and refer to keeping the commandments, statutes, judgments and holy seasons or days given to Israelites in the time of Moses. The first reference is Exodus 13:9 where it states the Days of Unleavened Bread associated with the Passover were given “for a sign unto you upon your hand, and for a memorial between your eyes [in the forehead].”_ _The word “sign” in the above verse is translated “mark” in its second occurrence in the Bible and it refers to the “mark” given to Cain (Genesis 4:15). The biblical definition of the “mark” (or “sign”) in the hand and forehead is associated with holy days on the Mosaic calendar. The next usage refers to the commandments, statutes and judgments that the Israelites were to perform when they entered the land of Canaan._ _“You shall bind them for a sign [or mark] upon your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes [in the forehead].” Deuteronomy 6:8_ _The third reference is similar to this and is given in Deuteronomy 11:18. The weekly Sabbath is described as such a “sign” (or MARK) in Exodus 31:12-17._ _If we let the Bible interpret the Bible then the MARK (or sign) in the hand and in the forehead of Revelation 13:16-17 refers to the keeping of the Mosaic legislation - its holy day system and regulations for the people of Israel in the land of Canaan. And this is what the Antichrist will subject the world to when he commences his reign in Jerusalem just before the true Second Advent. He will display to the world his supposed divinity, the world will accept it, he will sit himself with great ceremony in the temple at Jerusalem, and then proclaim himself the true divinity come from heaven to reside among men (2 Thessalonians 2:4)._ From "The Antichrist Will Establish the Mosaic Law" by the late Ernest L. Martin. --- _"And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were BUYING AND SELLING in the temple"_ (Mat 21.12) In Revelation 13 we have the second beast/false prophet who comes imitating the signs of Elijah to do 3 important things the rabbis expect Elijah to do: 1) Renew the Sinai covenant marriage which in the Torah came with sealing the congregation with the mark of the Name of God in the forehead and hand in dedication of thoughts and works through the Aaronic Benediction as symbolized by the tefillin (Mark of the beast); 2) restore the sacrifices which only those in the covenant could participate in with the money-changers and merchants Yeshua threw out (buying and selling); 3) regather and number the tribes in a census as in the books of Numbers and Ezra by heads of family names (number of names/number of men). These are expected by the rabbis for Elijah to perform before the arrival of their (false) messiah who will enforce the Sinai covenant marriage in defiance of the new covenant marriage announced by Jeremiah who said it would not be like the one at Sinai (Jeremiah 31). Hence, the law is for the lawless (1Tim 1.9) and we know the false messiah is also called the lawless one (2Thes 2.8).

[@LouisaWatt]

It might be rare to do a bible study on this verse, but that’s exactly what I did in a video a few years ago. The city I profiled in that breakdown was San Francisco. The new age movement is really strong there, it’s a drug haven and one of the biggest economic drivers of the world thanks to the tech industry. Funnily enough, it has 7 mountains

[@smittyjetson]

interesting. Washington DC also has 7 hills. They are neighborhoods.

[@LouisaWatt]

@@smittyjetson The Washington theory has merit, but in terms of who sits above world leaders I’d say it’s tech giants

[@rickbaker9053]

@@smittyjetson Pay attention to revelation 2:9 and 3.9...think about why God brings all nations against Israel...Many world leaders called themselves Jews. Well if they are Demons like 2:9 says? also we see in Jeremiah in the bible we see see Israel was wounded by a sword which lines up with revelation 13. Also in the book in Obidiah talks about it....there are foreigners in that land another words..The Khazarians I'm understanding.... Ezekiel 38 is all the nations that'll come against Israel/ her/ woman with twelve stars around her head.

[@smittyjetson]

@@rickbaker9053 I know all Jews are not the same. Hitler was the son of one of those Rothschild Jews. They are the lizard people who control world governments, Hollywood and the Catholic Church. That being said, I’m not sure you’re point is in the context of my comment about Washington.

[@rickbaker9053]

@@smittyjetson D.C. or District of Columbia was a separate entity of the US but aligned with The Vatican and London as the cabal,( mystery Babylon)...Now check how many of world leaders along with our leaders have been aligned with them since the 1800s until now. Why do you think JFK was killed. We've been a one world government for quite sometime time now. We just broke from Great Britian recently again.

[@ThunderTech77]

I wonder if Mystery Babylon is the Region of NEOM in NW Saudi Arabia. I've recently began looking at the 2000 Year Anniversary of the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple as another candidate for the return of Yeshua (Jesus) We are only a few years away from 2000 year anniversary of the Resurrection of Yeshua - another candidate for the second coming

[@bryanrivera-rivera1317]

It's likely NEOM. Everyone always wants it to be now, but we've got many things to go. Daniel 8 and 11, for example. Those events will take many decades to centuries. Gabriel says it over and over again that Daniel 8 and 11 are future even to us now. Visions of the End Times, not Alexander and the Diadochi. There are phrases like "at the end of some years..." "after years the king will do this" etc. It isn't going to be as quick as we all thought. But I agree it's likely NEOM. Mecca is too far south of Edom.

[@deneensanders4117]

Then why in Jeremiah, is the question asked, How does the HAMMER OF THE ENTIRE EARTH BECOME LEAST OF ALL NATIONS?,in these last days , what nation is the HAMMER OF THE ENTIRE EARTH? This tells me without a doubt it is America.

[@nasesplace]

Those who have the testimony of Christ are the widow,they gave up their fleshly nature and live by the spirit.

[@Joel-wv2ee]

What about the United States as a whole? It's a great city in a sense and everything describes Babylon describes the United States. Where do we go? Isaiah 43 reveals that.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

America will be destroyed beyond recognition soon. Israel is quietly being set up to be center of the world with the belt and road initiative, and ruling over the region similar to how Solomon ruled over a trade bloc in the region and had fleets of merchant ships and was even earning 666 talents of gold at one point. People may not like it emotionally, but the scriptures pinpoints Babylon as the great city where our Lord was crucified and guilty of the blood of the prophets: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23) Is it a coincidence in Revelation the harlot comes riding on a red beast in the wilderness (the Temple Institute in Jerusalem is preparing a red heifer sacrifice to bring back the temple ministry, which in Torah was prescribed to be carried out in the wilderness) and dressed in the colors and jewels describing the high priestly garment from Exodus 28.4-11? A Jerusalem Post 2017 article lets the cat out of the bag that Israel will be the capital of the nwo, titled “Israel and the unexpected new world order” All nations (‘waters’ are nations/peoples as explained in Rev 17.15) will gather to where she sits in false worship as they did at the tower of Babel, but first a traumatic global crisis must be engineered to ‘bring the world together.’ Beware Babylon’s armies of false teachers, trolls and bots flooding the web with misdirections and diversions to NYC, Rome, Edom, etc, etc. none of which are where our Lord was crucified or where the prophets were slain.

[@michaelnance8319]

The harlot represents the system of the antichrist. But in reality it’s a metaphor of the AntiChrist Spirit within all cities and places on Earth. You can say it represents corruption of all things against God.

[@heavenlydays2838]

New York City with the Statue of 🗽? Ive heard something as absurd as that. Babylon is not NYC . Has to be somewhere in middle east.

[@Itisallagame]

I keep watching for HOURS and can't find a single mention of who Babylon the Great is.

[@ans1293]

Was Moses taking hallucinogens'? That burning bush and hearing voices sounds familiar...

[@richardpyles1682]

The desert the city sits in could be the bed of Lies and not sand

[@TheTallhillbilly]

Paul did away with Saturday Worship and taboo on what you eat. Take no thought of What you eat, where you sleep or what you wear. Saturday Worship isn't necessary because God doesn't dwell in a building made by human hands He Dwell's in our heart the Ruach haKodesh lives inside of us 24/7...

[@Itisallagame]

Joel! Who do you claim is Babylon the Great?

[@hermitcard4654]

If God is wise...get rid of those demons, seems to me God has a one hand washing the other system. Make a evil thing, then stand back and say, "look at that," while God points it finger away from Herself. The one with least responsibility is "NOT" God!

[@edsnyder2801]

There is none other that fit this description of both commercial and religious Babylon such as the USA.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

America will be destroyed beyond recognition soon. Israel is quietly being set up to be center of the world with the belt and road initiative, and ruling over the region similar to how Solomon ruled over a trade bloc in the region and had fleets of merchant ships and was even earning 666 talents of gold at one point. People may not like it emotionally, but the scriptures pinpoints Babylon as the great city where our Lord was crucified and guilty of the blood of the prophets: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23) Is it a coincidence in Revelation the harlot comes riding on a red beast in the wilderness (the Temple Institute in Jerusalem is preparing a red heifer sacrifice to bring back the temple ministry, which in Torah was prescribed to be carried out in the wilderness) and dressed in the colors and jewels describing the high priestly garment from Exodus 28.4-11? A Jerusalem Post 2017 article lets the cat out of the bag that Israel will be the capital of the nwo, titled “Israel and the unexpected new world order” All nations (‘waters’ are nations/peoples as explained in Rev 17.15) will gather to where she sits in false worship as they did at the tower of Babel, but first a traumatic global crisis must be engineered to ‘bring the world together.’ Beware Babylon’s armies of false teachers, trolls and bots flooding the web with misdirections and diversions to NYC, Rome, Edom, etc, etc. none of which are where our Lord was crucified or where the prophets were slain.

[@clayearth8287]

USA produces and consumes. Saudi Arabia produces nothing but oil, yet consumes everything. America is bankrupt whereas Saudi is vast in wealth even though it has a large host of lower class and poor....just as America. I'm of the belief Babylon is a system....just as the original Babylon was and the entire system was destroyed. It's a worldwide event in my opinion. Not saying I'm right, it's just what I believe

[@signofjonah34]

“mystery” Babylon, the great (Nation with the most Wicked Capital city) is Red, White and BLUE… Rev. 18:16

[@signofjonah34]

She the worlds lone Super-Power (Hammer)…

[@angvvvll]

Yes I agree

[@wadeblankenship3844]

Again, organized religion has rode the beast into the far reaches of the earth and spread both religious and political influence and then the beast (political) turns on the harlot (religion) in humanism.

[@scott596]

Islam your Replacement's and New Master's

[@jmcginzie8756]

“Come out of her my people...” because the wrath poured out onto this end times Babylon will be similar to the TOTAL destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah...?

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Yep. That lines up with Christ warning those in Judah to flee the city (come out of her my people..) when they see the abomination of desolation set up in the temple (the false messiah’s image which is given ‘life’ and able to speak) and pray theie flight be not in winter or on the sabbath (which shows the Mosaic law is in effect under the reign of the false messiah, hence the law is for the lawless, and the false messiah is called the lawless one). _In the Bible the only usage of the phrases “in the hand” and “in the foreheads” are all in the Law of Moses and refer to keeping the commandments, statutes, judgments and holy seasons or days given to Israelites in the time of Moses. The first reference is Exodus 13:9 where it states the Days of Unleavened Bread associated with the Passover were given “for a sign unto you upon your hand, and for a memorial between your eyes [in the forehead].”_ _The word “sign” in the above verse is translated “mark” in its second occurrence in the Bible and it refers to the “mark” given to Cain (Genesis 4:15). The biblical definition of the “mark” (or “sign”) in the hand and forehead is associated with holy days on the Mosaic calendar. The next usage refers to the commandments, statutes and judgments that the Israelites were to perform when they entered the land of Canaan._ _“You shall bind them for a sign [or mark] upon your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes [in the forehead].” Deuteronomy 6:8_ _The third reference is similar to this and is given in Deuteronomy 11:18. The weekly Sabbath is described as such a “sign” (or MARK) in Exodus 31:12-17._ _If we let the Bible interpret the Bible then the MARK (or sign) in the hand and in the forehead of Revelation 13:16-17 refers to the keeping of the Mosaic legislation - its holy day system and regulations for the people of Israel in the land of Canaan. And this is what the Antichrist will subject the world to when he commences his reign in Jerusalem just before the true Second Advent. He will display to the world his supposed divinity, the world will accept it, he will sit himself with great ceremony in the temple at Jerusalem, and then proclaim himself the true divinity come from heaven to reside among men (2 Thessalonians 2:4)._ From "The Antichrist Will Establish the Mosaic Law" by the late Ernest L. Martin. --- _"And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were BUYING AND SELLING in the temple"_ (Mat 21.12) In Revelation 13 we have the second beast/false prophet who comes imitating the signs of Elijah to do 3 important things the rabbis expect Elijah to do: 1) Renew the Sinai covenant marriage which in the Torah came with sealing the congregation with the mark of the Name of God in the forehead and hand in dedication of thoughts and works through the Aaronic Benediction as symbolized by the tefillin (Mark of the beast); 2) restore the sacrifices which only those in the covenant could participate in with the money-changers and merchants Yeshua threw out (buying and selling); 3) regather and number the tribes in a census as in the books of Numbers and Ezra by heads of family names (number of names/number of men). These are expected by the rabbis for Elijah to perform before the arrival of their (false) messiah who will enforce the Sinai covenant marriage in defiance of the new covenant marriage announced by Jeremiah who said it would not be like the one at Sinai (Jeremiah 31). Hence, the law is for the lawless (1Tim 1.9) and we know the false messiah is also called the lawless one (2Thes 2.8).

[@stewartdocherty4977]

So can you give us a conclusion bro

[@stevemiller8895]

MERCHANTS = CORPORATIONS

[@danielandmariewalter]

Reading Rev 17, it didn’t seem that the Woman and the Prostitute were the same person. It seemed that two persons made more sense of the text. Are they equated anywhere?

[@qwerty-so6ml]

Rev 17 /18 Harlot, that Great City = NYC. The destruction of NYC is printed on the US $100 and $10.

[@Owl4909]

And you're going to tell us Babylon isn't America 🇺🇸 I'm just getting started

[@miskittt502]

Is part of the Vatican part of this? I think so.

[@deannapine9227]

Maybe it's Israel since it was created by the UN in 1948 and the Rothschilfds and Britain in the Belfour Declaration.

[@keithkalinowski3325]

Who is the artist of the opening images?

[@TheArtisticGardener777]

America is Babylon the Great.

[@josiahkerr2900]

Do you think it could be the internet? I don’t necessarily believe that I was just thinking. The only thing that doesn’t line up is that she sits on all seven kingdoms historically and currently. So would Mecca really fit that description historically?

[@scott596]

Islam

[@bethelshiloh]

Dubai?

[@jdw-616]

It's America, the queen of heaven aka statue of liberty originated from Babylon. Zechariah 5 shows her moving to her final resting place, the daughter of Babylon America

[@Robert5tt]

Hey Joel, What do you think of the possibility of two raptures. 1st pre-treb second mid-treb. Two ancients got raptured at different times. Could that be a clue. After the 1st astonishing rapture the church will be gone many will believe after 3 and half years they will be taken as well. This both explains why the church is not mentioned afrer Rev ch 4 and the persecution after until mid trib. Than those left will want to destroy the only thing left that reminds of the Bible. This will be Israel. This will triger the wrath of the 2nd half of tribulation 😊

[@katherineb9815]

Doesn't the language in Revelation 17:18, since it is in the present tense in Greek, have to refer to Rome? Rome was ruling at the time this was written. It says that the woman "is having reign" over the kings of the land.

[@mikewalsh1402]

No, John was given a vision of the future.

[@katherineb9815]

@@mikewalsh1402 Yeah that's what I think too. I heard a Bible teacher who has studied Greek say that, but I don't agree it's Rome. Thanks for replying.

[@lavieenrose5954]

The vision was future to John (not to us) - the events were to happen soon, the time was near, at hand. Mystery Babylon she is apostate Jerusalem married to pagan Rome, corrupt religion marrying corrupt politics... Apostate Jerusalem was where our Lord Jesus Christ was crucified.. God bless you in your quest for truth..

[@realtimebiblicalinterpreta6972]

The woman is a church bishop's wife.

[@Hisgreenhouse]

And I now know what is the great apostasy 2 Thessalonians 2. Its been going on since the dark ages, It’s the self righteous church who think there self righteous acts can some how save themselves, wicked who were leavened with a love for anything but HIM took positions in leadership to spread that their leaven, telling us how righteous they are, I personally don’t have hope for these but even these can be saved from the wrath if they committed to truly Repent. selling everything they have, down to the depths of their soul.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

In context Paul seems to be tying the great rebellion/apostasy to the rebellion led by the high priest in the wilderness when Israel worshipped the idol leading to the destruction of many which will happen again when the false prophet/second beast, in the role of high priest, will set up the false messiah (son of destruction) and his image to be worshiped as God before a great destruction.

[@spitfirered]

👍👍💯💯❤❤

[@hesterpieterse6737]

What about The Line in Neom as Nelson Walters suggests? Sure seems like a possibility to me...

[@markhauserbible7168]

Thanks Joel. I hold to a different understanding of mystery Babylon. It's not hard to figure out who this woman is, if we go back to where she first appears. Rev 12:1 This is the same woman throughout revelation. However, we must recognize she is under the New Covenant in Rev 12:6 She has a good side (Born again believers) and a bad side. (Unbelievers, mystery babylon). So, in Rev 12:6 The woman fled into the wilderness. (Spiritual Israel, not Jews) Gal 6:15-16 Now read Rev 17:3 Same woman. Now Rev 17:7 John marveled because he could not believe how corrupt the church had become. Now read Rev 17:18 The woman is THAT GREAT CITY. The church all over the world. (Not a literal city) Rev 21:10 New Jerusalem (Not a literal city) born again believers.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Here’s what I been sharing from my notes: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23) It’s no coincidence in Revelation the harlot comes riding on a red beast in the wilderness (the Temple Institute in Jerusalem is preparing a red heifer sacrifice to bring back the temple ministry, which in Torah was prescribed to be carried out in the wilderness) and dressed in the colors and jewels describing the high priestly garment from Exodus 28.4-11. A Jerusalem Post 2017 article lets the cat out of the bag that Israel will be the capital of the nwo, titled “Israel and the unexpected new world order” All nations (‘waters’ are nations/peoples as explained in Rev 17.15) will gather to where she sits in false worship as they did at the tower of Babel, but first a traumatic global crisis must be engineered to ‘bring the world together.’ Beware Babylon’s armies of false teachers, trolls and bots flooding the web with misdirections and diversions to NYC, Rome, Edom, etc, etc. none of which are where our Lord was crucified or where the prophets were slain.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

_In the Bible the only usage of the phrases “in the hand” and “in the foreheads” are all in the Law of Moses and refer to keeping the commandments, statutes, judgments and holy seasons or days given to Israelites in the time of Moses. The first reference is Exodus 13:9 where it states the Days of Unleavened Bread associated with the Passover were given “for a sign unto you upon your hand, and for a memorial between your eyes [in the forehead].”_ _The word “sign” in the above verse is translated “mark” in its second occurrence in the Bible and it refers to the “mark” given to Cain (Genesis 4:15). The biblical definition of the “mark” (or “sign”) in the hand and forehead is associated with holy days on the Mosaic calendar. The next usage refers to the commandments, statutes and judgments that the Israelites were to perform when they entered the land of Canaan._ _“You shall bind them for a sign [or mark] upon your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes [in the forehead].” Deuteronomy 6:8_ _The third reference is similar to this and is given in Deuteronomy 11:18. The weekly Sabbath is described as such a “sign” (or MARK) in Exodus 31:12-17._ _If we let the Bible interpret the Bible then the MARK (or sign) in the hand and in the forehead of Revelation 13:16-17 refers to the keeping of the Mosaic legislation - its holy day system and regulations for the people of Israel in the land of Canaan. And this is what the Antichrist will subject the world to when he commences his reign in Jerusalem just before the true Second Advent. He will display to the world his supposed divinity, the world will accept it, he will sit himself with great ceremony in the temple at Jerusalem, and then proclaim himself the true divinity come from heaven to reside among men (2 Thessalonians 2:4)._ From "The Antichrist Will Establish the Mosaic Law" by the late Ernest L. Martin. More info: _"And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were BUYING AND SELLING in the temple"_ (Mat 21.12) In Revelation 13 we have the second beast/false prophet who comes imitating the signs of Elijah to do 3 important things the rabbis expect Elijah to do: 1) Renew the Sinai covenant marriage which in the Torah came with sealing the congregation with the mark of the Name of God in the forehead and hand in dedication of thoughts and works through the Aaronic Benediction as symbolized by the tefillin (Mark of the beast); 2) restore the sacrifices which only those in the covenant could participate in with the money-changers and merchants Yeshua threw out (buying and selling); 3) regather and number the tribes in a census as in the books of Numbers and Ezra by heads of family names (number of names/number of men). These are expected by the rabbis for Elijah to perform before the arrival of their (false) messiah who will enforce the Sinai covenant marriage in defiance of the new covenant marriage announced by Jeremiah who said it would not be like the one at Sinai (Jeremiah 31). Hence, the law is for the lawless (1Tim 1.9) and we know the false messiah is also called the lawless one (2Thes 2.8).

[@ParabolicMind]

in our previous exchange we had some disagreements but here i hold a very similar point of view, good points

[@ParabolicMind]

@@AllOtherNamesUsed Good read

[@cindyc]

Made me think of this Matthew 5 14Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

[@daringlover8689]

If anyone wants to see some very good teachings about mystery Babylon you can check out prophecy U.S.A. by Rick Pearson which does a great job on teaching about it biblically

[@bwbailey5187]

How to discern?

[@gtw4546]

Read from every section of the Bible every day so that you don't ignore any portions. That will help you know if something is off. And pray for discernment, but there are no shortcuts. You need to know what the Word actually says.

[@SnickerbarConsciousness]

Read ur Bible believe and pray to God to open your spiritual eyes to learn how to discern things.

[@BrotherRogersChannel]

So, what is the identifiable city?

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

America will be destroyed beyond recognition soon. Israel is quietly being set up to be center of the world with the belt and road initiative, and ruling over the region similar to how Solomon ruled over a trade bloc in the region and had fleets of merchant ships and was even earning 666 talents of gold at one point. People may not like it emotionally, but the scriptures pinpoints Babylon as the great city where our Lord was crucified and guilty of the blood of the prophets: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23) Is it a coincidence in Revelation the harlot comes riding on a red beast in the wilderness (the Temple Institute in Jerusalem is preparing a red heifer sacrifice to bring back the temple ministry, which in Torah was prescribed to be carried out in the wilderness) and dressed in the colors and jewels describing the high priestly garment from Exodus 28.4-11? A Jerusalem Post 2017 article lets the cat out of the bag that Israel will be the capital of the nwo, titled “Israel and the unexpected new world order” All nations (‘waters’ are nations/peoples as explained in Rev 17.15) will gather to where she sits in false worship as they did at the tower of Babel, but first a traumatic global crisis must be engineered to ‘bring the world together.’ Beware Babylon’s armies of false teachers, trolls and bots flooding the web with misdirections and diversions to NYC, Rome, Edom, etc, etc. none of which are where our Lord was crucified or where the prophets were slain.