Fake doctor kills entire family, dog, parents & mistress to cover his double life-Jean Claude Romand

Jean Claude Romand was a monster who faked his entire life around his non-stop lies. Join us for this bizzaro true crime case that takes more turns than we could ever have foreseen and ends in the most unnecessary and heartless tragedy imaginable.
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[@crimeatoz]

WHYYYY was this man like this?!?!?! p.s., We have confirmed that Jean Claude's mother is *NOT* Mrs. Doubtfire 😉

[@NoniOfFive]

I will never understand it! As one commenter asked why kill the dog? I will never understand that either his logic behind that was confounding. I have a dog and she’s so precious and innocent they trust us to take care of them. I can’t imagine my life without her 😢

[@mgparis]

@@NoniOfFive He claimed he wanted his daughter to have the dog in the aflterlife... But psychologists have theorised that he couldn't stand the dog looking at him and "judging" him... Another chilling part is that during his trial, the only time he cried was when his dog was mentioned :X

[@indiabilly]

I think someone that can get away with those kinds of lies probably come to despise the people that believe them? It must be a form of psychopathy

[@mgparis]

Thanks for covering one of France's most shocking criminals! Really well done :) PS - I've always been convinced he killed his father-in-law as well. Bernard Kouchner was also the French Health Minister at the time, so Romand was name-dropping and pretending he had friends in high places.

[@NoniOfFive]

@@mgparis thank you 💜

[@Nikki_with_the_blikki]

With all the work he put into lying, he could've actually graduated from medical school and made something of himself🤦🏾‍♀️

[@crimeatoz]

100% Agree! So much wasted energy.

[@tem1465]

Imagine

[@thuandao4243]

I agree Nikki, such dedication in fraud double life, Even duped his wife in pharma …evil.incomprehensible psychotic scam master .

[@NubianNemesisArise]

Seriously, like wtf??🤦🏽‍♀️

[@user-vv3po2wk2b]

He had it made apt paid for big boy allowance for a 12 year stint at school unbelievable wow!

[@shirleyguy7152]

How can someone ever get out of prison who killed so many???? I truly don’t understand!!!!

[@crimeatoz]

Neither can we!

[@par2go737]

French perverted mentality !

[@tessaducek5601]

France

[@marirothbauer5407]

Miscarriage of justice here. Life with no parole for him.

[@raerae6422]

Also, where was the sentence for fraud, the theft of all that money, the assault of Corrine and arson? Unfreakingbelievable that he is out.

[@tooshay4me]

There is absolutely no cure for narcissism or pathological liars. He should never have been released. There is no justice.

[@yvettekeys9262]

Sociopath just think Scott Peterson he lied just like that

[@ninaballerina2807]

Wonder what justifies the diagnosis of Narcissism when all that the original Narcissus was guilty of was pining after his own handsome face and had never murdered or destroyed anyone on account of it.

[@K.Spade7902]

​@@ninaballerina2807 Good question!

[@ninaballerina2807]

@@K.Spade7902 Just goes to expose the ludicrousness of the pseudo-knowledge called psychology which has gained complete control over how people think and is increasingly robbing them of all rationale.

[@dannytoomey86]

@@ninaballerina2807 The origins of the name "Narcissism" does come from the Greek myth of "Narcissus", but I have zero clue why you think the details of an ancient myth have any bearing on the weight of the modern psychological definition. The modern definition of Narcissistic Personality Disorder(NPD) is summarized by this excerpt from the Mayo clinic: "Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence, they are not sure of their self-worth and are easily upset by the slightest criticism." It fits with the original myth, it fits with the Doctor in the video, and, if you pay attention, it doesn't say that NPD predisposes a patient to violent behavior but instead that it can make other's needs seem lesser than your own. Individuals with NPD are slightly more likely to be aggressive or even violent, but violence is not a primary determinative factor in diagnosing NPD. The only one robbed of rationale and dealing in pseudo-knowledge is you.

[@MayBeMe...]

How does anyone murder 5 people (premeditated) and get paroled????? What the HELL?????!!!!!

[@crimeatoz]

Exactly! What DO you have to do to not get parole???

[@caroldavis7169]

Don’t forget the mysterious death of his father in law. The count is probably 6.

[@lesleygurnick4050]

Don't forget the dog, his life was precious too 😥

[@MayBeMe...]

​ @lesleygurnick4050 ​For sure!♥

[@texasgirl6000]

​@@crimeatoz, steal money from the government.

[@marchels9649]

He shouldn’t be released. He’s a pathological liar, he is still a threat to society.

[@anneleonard739]

Cunning... If he used half his time for something good, he would have been a normal family man.

[@EithneOwen]

Totally agree......

[@BattleBladeWarrior]

He should never have been sent to jail in the first place. Should've just had him executed. It constantly baffles me how weak willed the justice system is, where they will CONSTANTLY give second, third, 4th, etc chances to the most despicable people. If you murdered someone in cold blood, (let alone your whole family) your life should be forfeit as well, if for nothing else, but to make sure you never have the chance to kill again.

[@maryj2671]

So is Biden and he's still president . Go figure

[@texasgirl6000]

More importantly he was a mass murderer of his own family! Absolutely disgusting that he is allowed to breathe air!

[@DG-nk5nv]

Wait ... he is OUT of prison? What in the hell is wrong with France? If he killed one person, in a crime of passion or by accident ... okay, I get it. But he murdered so many people, a dog, and attempted to murder his affair partner. Shame on you, France. Seriously, shame on you.

[@crimeatoz]

RIGHT!?!?! We literally did a double-take when we read that during research! We even seriously considered breaking our professional format and putting a shocked emoji 😲 right at that point in the video or a WTF or *something*!!! That was just crazy to us!!!

[@synewparadigm]

France is experiencing lots of crimes because of the very light sentencing.

[@LaNoturna]

I’ve already gotten used to Europe’s prison system being about rehabilitation rather than punishment. It’s rare anyone goes to prison for life there. Had he been in the American court system, he would have either been sentenced to death or life imprisonment if he took a deal.

[@salmavillagomez242]

You shouldn’t be so shocked. So many similar cases in US . Most serial killers here , have been paroled to kill again.

[@TheWriterWalker]

YES. I agree. Shame on France! But it is behaving the way a Liberal Socialist country, big on showing "compassion," behaves.

[@mezirezi1]

Those who let him out of prison are the bigger monsters.

[@crimeatoz]

Yessss!!!

[@Isa-js3ve]

Communist judges.

[@karyannfontaine8757]

When he commits more crimes, they should be held as accomplices.

[@jewel6098]

Not monster “idiots “

[@annastinehammersdottir1290]

Ruling elites love their psychopaths.

[@beverengel2250]

I will never understand why we let people like him live. It’s disgusting.

[@danarzechula3769]

Think of all the money spent on these monsters while children go to bed hungry and people live in the street

[@sweetbeauty2153]

​@@danarzechula3769Precisely, it's very disturbing!!🤦‍♀️

[@TJ-bn2cn]

Because what’s the difference between you and the killer. You are suggesting murder but nobody has the right to decide who lives or who dies. You’re just showing that you’re not that different from this person.

[@gemmalynn536]

i think he should live to suffer for killing them, death is mercy, it should stay out of his reach🤷🏼‍♀️

[@sonquatsch8585]

@@gemmalynn536 agree, he needs to be in prison for the rest of his life. period.

[@mirag1879]

He shouldn't get out of prison. He's a monster

[@crimeatoz]

Agreed! We're devastated he was.

[@tessaducek5601]

But he was

[@realreviews4017]

Agreed, there are people doing life no parole for far less worldwide. I can't say what I really think here, but given the fact he went to a "religious" setting after release tells a lot more.

[@loisannlovelace8988]

And that’s an understatement! This man is a pure animal, just terrible

[@jb54994]

​@@loisannlovelace8988Even animals do not commit such atrocities.

[@lisahess1027]

He should also have had the diagnosis of psychopath as he could kill his entire family,including small children, without compunction. The symptoms of psychopathology are lying, manipulating and hurting others, exhibiting behavior that is in conflict with social norms, and difficulty showing empathy or remorse. He just ticks off all those boxes. It’s frightening how he could pull off all of those lies for two decades, fooling his whole family, and his best friend and his wife. He should not have been let out of prison.

[@crimeatoz]

👆

[@junglekutz5625]

Well whether or not he's diagnosed, he is who he is. We live in a society where ***most individuals are intrigued and drawn in by what they think they know/they're conveniently told, can see and is shown (emphasis on can) in and about others. The whole purpose of unity and having whatever connection (on any level) is to know. #period If you (as in anyone) would rather see and accept what they're superficially told and shown, that's on you. Not that it's anyone's place to bombard and investigate another in an attempt to be steps ahead or as a means to align themselves with whomever in order to benefit (as such iniatives often times can and will be deceiving), just as it was in this case.

[@raphaellavictoria01]

But narcissistic PD also has a lack of empathy. But anyway, psychiatry doesn't formally recognize psychopathy as a disorder or even a clinical entity. So if they ask a psychiatrist, he's compelled to diagnose something within the accepted norms of his profession (i'm a psychiatrist). And since all psychopaths are narcissists, but not all narcissists are psychopaths, it kind of works out. None of this really matters bc neither a narcissist or a psychopath will change, there is no therapy for it. Technically, it is possible to change narcissism with therapy but practically, they will never actually engage in it.

[@sonquatsch8585]

yeah narcs, are usually not murderers...sociopathy is narcissism with the murderous component.

[@lisahess1027]

@@sonquatsch8585 I appreciate the clarification.

[@clarity-re3mn]

The saying, "If you lie you'll steal, if you steal you'll kill" has never been more real to me.

[@crimeatoz]

Yep!

[@junglekutz5625]

Right! It's like his brain was wired to believe the likes and lived it out by way of a performance.

[@sotired9790]

If you lie you cheat, if you cheat you steal, if you steal you kill.

[@BlackSeranna]

I’m not sure if I believe that as a 100% right statement, but it is an easy slide from one thing to another.

[@zonagale1144]

My mother told me this.

[@mrsmiggins6435]

He got 26 years in prison for 5 murders and one attempted murder as well as fraud. What the f**k goes through the judges brain when dishing out these sentences?????? He won't change, he shouldn't be out

[@angelaroberts1767]

He should of never gotten out of prison!!!!

[@crimeatoz]

Dude! When we read that part during research, we were like... wait...WHAT!!! 😲😲😲

[@katemangos1705]

*should have never

[@melindabsa8391]

​@@crimeatozThat's the French' justice system. Some people got tougher sentences for robbing banks than actually killing someone. Worse still, the "crimes of passion", some get out after serving less than half their sentence for good conduct. Victims and their families are treated with zero respect.

[@canadianlady777]

I don’t believe a narcissist can change their behavior…They can control it when it suits them but it will always be there to surface when necessary…I married one and lived 23 years with the trauma of emotional abuse….

[@crimeatoz]

Yeah, it seems hard to believe they can change something so fundamentally a part of them.

[@nereidatorres7613]

WHY DID YOU SPEND 23 YEARS OF HELL? DID YOU LOVE HIM THAT MUCH? DID YOU THINK HE WAS GOING TO CHANGE? THEY NEVER CHANGE, THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE TO GET AWAY BEFORE THEY KILL YOU OR BEFORE YOU HAVE TO BE PUT IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL. LOVE AND RESPECT YOUR SELF ABOVE ALL THINGS. GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP SAFE.

[@ursulaseverin2208]

I know how that is.

[@TonyRule]

@@nereidatorres7613Because she's making it up. Like most women, she can't admit to her own flaws, in this case, choosing a partner using feelings rather than rational evaluation. So when the relationship failed, she had to blame him. Accountability is womens' Kryptonite.

[@StepbyStepbyMiriam]

@@nereidatorres7613 Not everyone has the means to do so. They isolate, leave you without money, friends, family or support of any kind. They take no responsibility and will turn it all around and make themselves the victim.

[@debbiegrasse3920]

Life in prison for multiple murders should mean life without parole.

[@americangirlx4]

Wow! This case was mindboggling!! You did an amazing job on this presentation. I was totally transfixed and absolutely horrified as his deeds unfolded. The sheer bravado, cruelty and lack of conscience he directed at SO MANY trusting people is difficult to fathom. The French seem to afford criminals more compassion than the actual victims, like many other corrupted judicial systems. This guy cannot be labeled only a Narcissist or a pathological liar. He is absolutely a Psychopath, is a master manipulator who CANNOT or WILL NOT ever change. He will be compelled to use, abuse and discard as naturally as breathing!!

[@cm8836]

💯I'm French and I have been saying the same thing about the justice system, for years!!!

[@BattleBladeWarrior]

I think technically that would make him a sociopath. Psychopaths have no emotion, have a lot of self confidence and don't feel any guilt (if I recall). Sociopaths generally only care about themselves and are very manipulative, yes, but they're not very self confident, and do still feel emotions like fear and so on. A lot of them are cowards on the inside. The fact he always tried to kill people from behind, (and gave up on killing the one woman he attacked from the front) and also how he murdered the dog so his daughter would "have the dog with her in heaven" tells me there was still a certain level of emotional attachment left in this guy. This guys life was based around fear and laziness, whereas a psychopath wouldn't give those things a second thought.

[@ninaballerina2807]

​@BattleBladeWarrior If only we would keep things simple, just as they are. We are all sinners - given to lying, fear, shame, stealing, concealing or covering up...etc. obvious sins that manifest themselves in childhood itself - right away showing that each one of us are susceptible to committing greater misdeeds or crimes. However, groeing up, it does not take long to discern those that may be disciplined, corrected and trained into goodness and those that will relentlessly persist in their waywardness so as to choose rather to move from inherent sinfulness to increasing depravity; in other words from a mere Sinner to an unrepentant Wicked. And, yes, should one inquire as to the moral standards by which we me discern or judge ourselves: It is the surpassing Righteousness of God alone and not the semblance of vacillating virtues men advocate.

[@KororaPenguin]

It started with a lie, and he grew worse and worse. "Indeed the safest road to Hell is the gradual one -- the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts[.]" -- Screwtape, Letter XII

[@montafleming5948]

So sad that she didn't even want him in the first place, he pursued her til she dated him, then he kills her and the ENTIRE fam, including the dog!!! I hate these killers that think they have the right to take other lives.

[@crimeatoz]

Yessss all of that right there!!! ☝🏽

[@melissaw704]

Who cares if he can be treated and cured…. he has to do the time. It’s not society’s responsibility to take him up to raise and fix him. Throw away the key.

[@amyrobern9662]

But that is exactly society's responsibility! We pretend only- Children's Aid, Welfare, CMHA, funded healthcare....which one should we get rid of?

[@AS-wj1du]

If the children walk out the graves after his wicked act then society can help him. If not leave it where it is. Beyond evil

[@Littleone124]

​@@amyrobern9662CMHA is not in France. It's a Canadian organization.

[@lettiegrant9447]

Exactly!👍👍

[@christopherdunn3094]

​@amyrobern9662 Society's responsibility is to spare the children this man's presence....permanently.

[@purplpen]

The penalty was extremely light for such selfish, premeditated, multiple murder and multiple financial ruin.

[@theoryofpersonality1420]

That's because Europeaners are soft on crime.

[@invisobill2125]

Typical European soft ass liberal justice system. So embarrassing to hear about your cases over there. “Double child murderer r*pist paroled after 20 years” like wtf is in the water over there

[@melindabsa8391]

The most you can serve in France is between 30 and 25 years...

[@mariawestman9026]

@@melindabsa8391scary! So if a 20 years old person go out and committing mass murder , it” is free at the age of 45-50 ? France have a lot of “foreigners” who are into terror plots. This is not good.

[@blacknosugarnocream]

I just don't think killers like him fear their family living with the disappointment, I think they fear the family's judgement. It is the killer who doesn't want to suffer.

[@user-wg4ce4xu5r]

I cannot believe dat nobody responded to ur post. Because everything dat everybody replied on about dis article, I feel like dis da realest thing dat anybody said. Your absolutely right and u hit dat right on da head.

[@rosemarykennedy5430]

Yes narcissists fear exposure because it causes them painful humiliation. They’d kill to avoid that!

[@theoryofpersonality1420]

Absolutely, it's called mortification.

[@allisonjames2923]

Exactly! I mean if he could conjure up an entire fake life purely because he couldn’t admit not sitting an exam & failing 2nd year, instead of just repeating the year, then he wasn’t afraid of how they would feel. He was afraid of how HE would feel when they knew the truth

[@BlackSeranna]

Some people have this deathly fear of conflict. So many times have I read/heard stories of people (young people) who lie about going to school or having a job and then, rather to own up to the lie, they will try to take the lives of their loved ones in order to collect life insurance. It’s all very bizarre. These people are bizarre.

[@mermaid30019]

There are many pathological liars who never take a person’s life. This man is a psychopath

[@crimeatoz]

No argument!

[@beetledune9264]

Well they maybe not kill others,but surely will make others life in trouble because of their lies.

[@sunflowing]

Pathological liars lie about things that make no sense. Like this girl who scratched up her fingernails then said "my nails are just like this". Things that you wouldn't even want to have. They lie about everything and anything. This man wasn't a pathological liar.

[@EditorzzMomm]

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is very dangerous.. lack of empathy and emotional immaturity make these people extremely manipulative, impulsive, and lying robots who would stop at nothing to get what they want (and in their head believe that they deserve).. there are no morals, no regard for other people (especially those that are closest to them).. It's difficult to see at first, but sooner or later, the mask comes off.. whenever encountered, run away and never look back..

[@jamarr27]

This man was a snake in every sense of the word... he swindled everyone he knew.

[@crimeatoz]

Exactly, zero conscience whatsoever!

[@jamarr27]

@Crime A to Z this is was started because he failed to become a doctor. This man was a damn moron, there's no excuse whats so ever for his actions, and he deserves death, not life in prison.

[@lostmojo]

Snakes don't do such things. Humans do. Speciesist language is convenient, it allows us to feel superior to fellow humans that we don't respect, no matter if they're criminals or just of another colour, land, religion, orientation.

[@louniece1650]

@@lostmojo Oy.🙄

[@junglekutz5625]

@crimeatoz I'm not too sure why you would believe that he didn't have a conscience. Why certain folk tend to keep saying that is beyond me. If he didn't have a conscience he would have killed that woman that was adamant about getting her money. The psychology behind why he chose not to, while begging her not to tell anyone is apparent. Maybe it would be wise for people to actually know other people, then maybe their perspective with choice thinking will evolve.

[@ms.ravenwood]

Those who saw fit to release this man into society. Blood is on their hands.

[@americangirl6654]

How on Earth is the French legal system so messed up that a man like that could EVER see the light of day again? It’s a slap in the face to all of his victims and their families.

[@k.popper2620]

To tell you the truth all of Europe is basically fallen... It's a mess over there.

[@sarafrikinbeara]

5 proven murders, 1 possible murder, 1 attempted murder, and 1 animal murder.... And millions swindled. He only got 26 years, in which he was able to explore life and feel rested and fed. Sounded more like a daily struggle reprieve than a prison sentence. Now, he's free to walk the streets, with a possible couple more decades to do so. Ummmmmm...... Where's the justice?

[@crimeatoz]

Right?!?!?! And it seems like he had no remorse whatsoever! Obviously not because he had so much time in between the killings and attempts and still went through with them (or tried). He has zero conscience, is an evil monster, and deserved so much worse punishment!

[@par2go737]

How come he wasn't honored with the Légion d’honneur by the ice cold French Fried system.

[@user-sx9rx5of1c]

I can't believe this.

[@tessaducek5601]

@@par2go737 Outstanding... 🤣👍👍👍😅

[@dsteph51629]

Can't believe it either 😮

[@CK8smallville]

Why is it called life imprisonment when it isn’t for life?

[@crimeatoz]

Million dollar question, right?!

[@normasouthwood3182]

That also has always puzzled me.

[@budwhite9591]

Because liberal European countries make murderers pay very little for their crimes and make the victims of their crimes usually the scapegoat of their crimes; ex they were rich, they deserved it, they asked for it, etc

[@samunicorn9721]

2 types of life sentence: with parole and without parole. Without parole means you stay in prison til you die. With parole means you are eligible for parole,which only means that a parole board can grant parole. If parole isn' t granted,one stays in prison and applies again until one dies or is granted parole,whichever comes first. If parole is granted,then one's life is supervised by a parole officer until one dies. 5 murders is a lot,but france might have in its law that the purpose of prison is rehabilitation,not retaliation or punishment.

[@MoMo-cz3vr]

Using USA justice system terminology, when you get life in US it’s LIFE!!!!

[@jeffwads]

The parallels between this case and Alex Murdough is incredible.

[@me21464]

I thought the same thing!!

[@tridoc99]

I don’t understand a justice system that allows someone to be a mass murderer and serve anything less than the rest of their life in prison, let alone the death penalty.

[@stormsiren7207]

There is no cure for narcissism so he should not have been released because he will always be a danger to someone

[@crimeatoz]

Yeah, just kinda seems like you can't change narcissism.

[@Karenanneseven]

Terrifying to know there are people out in the world like this 😔

[@crimeatoz]

👆

[@junglekutz5625]

What's even more terrifying is the fact that the folk around them are so easily deceived and never know or sense a thing! #scary. I believe that the commentator said he was an Aquarian. #interesting Some individuals would rather just squander and or abuse what they've been given, not realizing that doing so is pretty much a snare.

[@budwhite9591]

And even worse the French authorities took pity on him and gave him a literal slap on the wrist. But a country with no spine or testicles is usually run by and supports criminals

[@budwhite9591]

31:56. Well Padre, our earthly laws are to be followed as gods law if you actually read the Bible. Also, father kid toucher, sensible punishments for murders are supposed to speed up that meeting between him and God. After all, God is quite busy and it’s best to expedite that process so he can handle it more quickly for us rather than him kill more innocent people. Capital punishment is the only answer for cold blooded murder

[@swiftkarma4436]

Terrifying to know that I grew up with family like thus. Tbe world is a walk in the park for me

[@kathrynalexander1758]

There was a similar case in Utah, but the lying husband killed only his wife who discovered his charade of going to med school. I don't understand how Europe has such mild sentencing for mass murderers.

[@user-zp7jp1vk2i]

They use legal "panels" in Europe: the Lady Diana investigation involved three judges. Why not include a Psychiatrist on one of those panels and "splain to Lucy" the concept of psycopathy and criminal behaviour??

[@denisewarner8287]

I love your presentation! Romand should NEVER have been released for all the crimes he committed.

[@crimeatoz]

Thanks! And we agree. Shocked he was released!!!

[@tessaducek5601]

I heard of this guy before but this was much more in depth. He is not the only person to orchestrate a life long lie. And won't be the last. It is a darn shame when image and money take precedence over the lives of ones family.

[@junglekutz5625]

Well they weren't worth much to him if he could annihilate every inch (starting from his biological parents to his immediate family) the minute he came up with the "idea". Words and titles really can't speak on behalf of most folk and how they truly feel about those that they call family. As most just use the above as hangers in their life. As it seemed (based on how the story was told), that all of these indivoduals were just placement (no different than place mats at a table) for this mf. Something that isn't foreign behavior, that most seem to realize 20, 30, 40 years too late.

[@anneleonard739]

John List...

[@sheilabloom6735]

@@anneleonard739I couldn’t remember his name. Thank you.

[@tracyshaffer4510]

How did so many people give this man their money? No questions asked, no receipts , no return on the money! This is insane how he got away with the lies for so long.

[@George39gmail.]

Hi tracy🌹 How are you doing?

[@margo3367]

I thought of Bernie Madoff when I read your comment. He bilked people out of their life savings too. He had the good sense to send out fake documentation though.

[@steveburke7675]

It's not uncommon...think Bernie Madoff, or Elizabeth Holmes....both pathological liars.

[@charmaineswaddle2286]

I don’t believe they can change or be cured….once a narcissist always a narcissist…may they all RIP ❤

[@crimeatoz]

❤️

[@theoryofpersonality1420]

There's no psychologist that will disagree with you. People on the cluster B spectrum can't be cured. Only manipulated to change their behavior. Even then it must be framed in a way that's it's self serving. More often than not they do the opposite of whatever someone wants out of pure spite.

[@pamorama]

A man who is known to have killed five people, attempted to kill one other, and probably killed another by pushing him down the stairs, and who shot a little dog is released?!?!? Allowed to live his life when he killed so many others?!?!. He’s only 65 years old. Unbelievable miscarriage of justice if you ask me. The man is definitely not a different human. Anyone who can look a child, especially his own, in the eyes as a murder them is a monster and irredeemable. I don’t even care if he was rehabilitated he should’ve died in prison.

[@kerriarickards8508]

2 DOGS 🐶 🐕 , was on his list of victims! Loved your comment!❤

[@prettykittycakes]

With the depth of his lies he really could have gotten a great job and avoided all of this. Such a waste. May his family rest in peace 🕊️

[@crimeatoz]

Right!?!? Obviously skilled...should have used it productively!

[@appledoreman]

In light of everything, a career in forestry doesn't seem such a bad option, does it?

[@crimeatoz]

Exactly! Sounds pretty good about now.

[@soninoscardelletti2844]

OUT OF PRISON? R U KIDDING ME? WOW! How sick is that justice system? God Bless

[@crimeatoz]

Yeah that was a serious shocker! Had to do a double-take when we read up onthat part

[@shivalishankersharma1562]

As someone who has a degree in physics, becoming an actual scientist would have needed less effort.

[@lindanolan9542]

I don’t think that spending time in prison has changed him. A person who can commit these horrific crimes is always able to excuse himself and rationalize his behavior in his own mind. I think he’s as dangerous today as he was 26 years ago. Considering his crimes, this is a case that cries out for the death penalty. Linda😀✌

[@imranynwa506]

This is so unreal, I can't believe it happens in real life.

[@crimeatoz]

Right!?!?! This story definitely felt like fiction. So many crazy turns. We were like "wait...WHAT!!!" at like every turn during research.

[@imranynwa506]

@@crimeatoz yup It's sounds like too good to be true, but anything can happen in this world, anyway, thanks for a good story, Videos from you are always interesting and always entertain my day and thanks to all your hard work i really appreciate it.

[@crimeatoz]

@imranynwa506 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@par2go737]

Much worse is happening daily. Just not openly and undiscovered for media attention.

[@crimeatoz]

100% Agree!

[@diozza_tolteka2836]

Yes he's still a great danger to society. He's built like a monster not a human.

[@crenshti]

It's so hard to say one can or cannot change or redeem himself after he took the lives of HIS OWN CHILDREN!, his wife and his own parents. This guy is a MONSTER! His kids will NEVER grow up, get married, have children and possibly long wonderful lives of their own all because he was worried about what they would think of HIM. He can't get any of that back for them, so 26 years is enough redemption to the courts? He killed all of those DEFENSELESS people and they let him out of JAIL? HOW?! How does he even feel he deserves a life outside of prison? Just Horrible, no justice for any of them.

[@doloreswinsbarrow1110]

Condolences to the wife family. Speaker will told the story really clear thanks. Justice was not served: he deserve the death penalty...those personalities he had was of the devil. He's a monster.

[@crimeatoz]

Thanks! Heartbreaking, indeed. 💔

[@mustardwhore]

Finally a good narrator without any loud and distracting background music.

[@crimeatoz]

Aww thanks for the compliment! So coincidental you said that because literally an hour ago we were reviewing the vid coming up 2 vids from now and giving our producer major props because the music is just 🔥🔥🔥! Like forget the video you are just rockin the music. That's when he reminded us that that's what his background is in. Oh ya, duh! 🤪 Anyway, I digress... Thanks for the great feedback on the narration and the music!❤️❤️❤️

[@crimeatoz]

@dreadvaledmustard Don't worry though, it's still subtle, not distracting 😁

[@vitaminK1121]

A perfect case of a saying my mom's mom would say: "If you'd lie, you'd steal; if you'd steal, you'd kill."

[@crimeatoz]

Ouch! Perfect, indeed.

[@stephendacey8761]

I never heard that saying. I'm sorry, but I don't really believe it. Many people steal, but don't kill.

[@bevygaines]

The saying is if you lie, you'd cheat, if you cheat, you'd steal!

[@legoqueen2445]

I hadn't heard it before either but it's popped up a few times in the comments for this video. I think it refers to how quickly people can slip into worse behaviour when they're already willing to start off by lying. Obviously it depends on how much they lie to start off with. Most people tell little lies all the time, whether it is to avoid explaining a complicated situation or to save someone else's feelings. But there are some who easily fall into deception and from there all bets are off. My son's father was one of these people. He presented himself as very charming and personable but he couldn't say 3 sentences without 2 of them being lies. I was fortunate to not have any further contact with him not long after I had my son. But I heard he had been deported from my country after nearly killing one of the other women he had been scamming. He had originally come to my country by marrying another lady to get citizenship here after he had killed his brother with a spear gun in his own homeland (I think his motive was to keep all the proceeds of a business agreement they had gotten into). When my son was 12 years old we were contacted by his father's family via Facebook to inform us that his father had been killed by a nephew who was a policeman in his home country. Because of the corruption there the nephew was never arrested. I wasn't surprised he died in such a violent way, you can't live a life of lies, theft and violence without it catching up with you. Well, maybe not in France😅😅😅😂😂😂😂 Also, I didn't find out most of this till after I was pregnant. I was lucky to not have had a such a bad experience (other than obviously having to raise my son on my own). I'm actually friends with his wife and the woman he got together with when he returned to his own country! My son has a half sister with her. Life is strange! But yes, he certainly showed 'if you lie, you'd steal, if you'd steal, you'd kill'.

[@stephendacey8761]

@@legoqueen2445 Wow, you have endured a lot in your life.

[@quintonfauntleroy]

He lied from the beginning of his life…..he killed everyone close to him and tried to hide that until he decided to confess…..and he gets to get out of jail? The last thing I heard was that no one has heard from him……I’m just amazed and disgusted

[@xtremenortherner]

I was initially fascinated by the story of this man who impersonated a physician;he had to have some intelligence to present to people as an MD. But unlike Ferdinand Waldo Demara, who while pretending to have medical training & credentials; he actually helped to save lives. But this psychopathic murderer killed members of his own family! And yet (2023) he has been just released from prison in France...,unbelievable!

[@LONDON0222]

I don’t understand why he didn’t get the death penalty! 😡😡

[@crimeatoz]

Right?! If this doesn't warrant it, what DOES???

[@Isa-js3ve]

Death penalty was abolished in France by socialists in 1981.

[@AS-wj1du]

Don't have that in France. Can't believe they let him walk around free after his crimes. Lie upon lie upon lie upon and theft upon theft killing upon killing. When he was swindling his family and they didn't get their money back, they just let it go? They're all nutters

[@aishahussain2807]

Sharia law is the best for this reason

[@123maseer]

Killed so many people yet he's free. 😲 Wow

[@crimeatoz]

Exactly!😲

[@dwdwdwdw22]

Absolutely heartbreaking what his family had to endure. Its frustrating that people like this exist and have the audacity to have familes, and friends.. WOW. He jumped through unnatural hoops to lie like this. He killed his family for selfish and incomprehensible reasons.

[@denisedef]

This is unbelievable how people just kept giving him money !!! How blind can they be he should get the death penalty !

[@tyronejones7341]

To wipe out your entire family is just plain "unforgivable" !!!!!!!.

[@crimeatoz]

Yep. Totally agree!!!

[@azazello1784]

Would it be forgivable to wipe out part of a family?

[@tanyakas4111]

@@azazello1784y’all like twisting words 🤡

[@everythingbintu]

He put so much energy into a fake life 😮😮😮

[@crimeatoz]

Right?!? Would've been 1000 times easier to just be ordinary and tell the truth!

[@tabelaskade4888]

Like I’m so confused on why on the day he missed the exam he didn’t just go to the doctor fake some minor illness and have sick certificate to present to the school & rewrite the exam or redo his second year and progress from there, I’m confused on why he did 2nd year for 7 years

[@crimeatoz]

@@tabelaskade4888 Even WORSE...he repeated his second year for 12 YEARS!!! 🤦🏻‍♀

[@I_Palaver]

The term "fake life" has a weird ring to it.

[@crimeatoz]

hmmm

[@hanawashington9503]

There is no cure for narcissist, this creep should stay in the jail

[@corgeousgeorge]

I have seen a lot of true crime docs, I'm subscribed to like 4 true crime channels (well, now five thanks to this video and how well put together it is) but I have NEVER, I mean NEVER EVER ever thought to myself that I'd see something that truly baffled me and disturbed me on such a level. Crayyy-zeeeee

[@TheGMRGIRL]

There are only a small amount of voices I can actually listen to and yours is one of them. TY!

[@crimeatoz]

Yay, we're so glad you're enjoying his voice!!! Thanks for the wonderful feedback. ❤❤❤❤❤❤🤗

[@carolinebrennan3864]

I used to love Annie alise, but the voice croaking just got to me and can no longer listen😮 Yes, this voice is so kind to the ears!

[@sarafrikinbeara]

Your channel is so underrated! You do excellent storytelling!

[@crimeatoz]

Awww thanks! We appreciate the ❤️❤️❤️🤗

[@Karenanneseven]

My thoughts exactly! 50,000 is creeping up through!

[@crimeatoz]

Thanks!!! ❤️❤️❤️ We're enjoying the journey.🙂

[@gjcking43]

agreed - just please work on the pronunciation before recording - its slightly irritating

[@Karenanneseven]

@@gjcking43 you’re slightly irritating tbh…just sayin ✌️

[@MsMaryPatricia]

I can't believe he got out of prison. What the actual fuck? He murdered his parents, wife and children in cold blood, after spending decades deceiving and robbing people, and they think he is safe to be in society. Again, wtf? This story reminded me of the guy who murdered his whole family and they weren't found for a month. In the mean time he ran away, created a new life and identity, got married and had kids and wasn't found until a few decades later. Even when his crimes were uncovered, his "new" family defended him because they thought he was a great guy. I'm sorry (not sorry) but if you can plan and commit the murders of the people you are supposed to love, you are not a good person and need to be locked up for the rest of your life so society is safe from you.

[@samunicorn9721]

Hi Msmarypatricia- the guy who murdered his first family and started a second family was a great guy - to his second family. From the viewpoint of rehabilitation,the guy proved himself by being a wonderful father to his second set of children and a wonderful father to his second wife. 😢

[@josiecoote8975]

Are we talking about John List?

[@eileenentler8993]

My "favorite" part was when they stated thst, after being released from prison (but still wearing the ankle monitor) he was not allowed to contact anyone involved in the whole incident ... ummm, there's only ONE person left who he hadn't killed!!!

[@louniece1650]

In the beginning he could have turned his lies into the truth by getting back on track in school but instead he chose to continue the charade. Pity.

[@crimeatoz]

Pity, indeed!

[@solitairestarr5516]

Great coverage of this awful series of crimes (by one man). Well done!

[@crimeatoz]

Thank you! ❤️❤️ He was indeed awful! Ughh 💔

[@monicamestas7566]

Are you the Nigel and Luke duo that used to cover true crime stories in person with a little comedic touch? You guys were funny and told great tales.

[@cm8836]

He's a very sick man who should never have been released, but unfortunately the French justice system is very soft!!!

[@silverstuff182]

The baffling question is this: After living an incredibly careful, clever, innocent-appearing life how could he even imagine that killing everybody would work out for him? First, so careful. Then: NUTS.

[@KarmicSalt]

disgusting that he got out....so does he have to pay back the money he stole or did he get away with that too? disgusting

[@user-kl8cd6ni5x]

He should have stayed in jail until his last breath~!

[@crimeatoz]

Yes, exactly!!!

[@102create]

How could they let him out?? After killing so many people? Unbelievable, he should not be able to see the light of day !!!

[@goldenretrievermom7945]

DEFINITELY should never have been released!!!!! People like this have zero capacity to change. For the murders he committed he should have received a life sentence for each person he killed at a VERY MINIMUM. I would also have preferred he be forgotten in an oubliette if possible.

[@George39gmail.]

Hi kay🌹 How are you doing?

[@barbarajohnson3876]

Out of jail. Canada, Australia, Britain...such lenient sentences...

[@crimeatoz]

So lenient!!!

[@springsogourne]

I cannot believe they let him out of jail!!

[@deborahblackvideoediting8697]

Corinne clearly had no clue what a 'red flag' is. Anyhow, this was a very well done video!! So thorough, and not exploitive. Also, beautifully presented with great editing. Will be watching more!

[@annemarievaneeden7005]

No justice……..For the people that lost their lives.He is a threat for sure.Should be in jail till death.

[@carolynwelsch]

Of course he was a "model" prisoner! He got to live the life he loved: read, study, do video, no work, no responsibility, no bills... Some people should just get the death penalty. I hope he truly repented and surrendered his life to God, but compared to all his crimes, he just got a slap on the wrist 😮

[@deletethis6902]

Some god doesn't make anyone good or bad. They just are. I find the hypocrisy of touting the bible when it's suitable, to believing in a death penalty, outstanding, though. Just what one would expect.

[@valeriehayes5555]

In my opinion, if a person really did have true remorse, repent, and accept Christ, they would not be attempting to get out of prison, or appealing denied parole. They would humbly accept the consequences of their actions.

[@gingersnapped5235]

Parents, wife , 2 kids, family dog, and a mistress are dead and this loser is released from prison??? What is wrong with the justice system? 26 yrs is not long enough!! He should have NEVER see the outside of a prison again.

[@missmodern]

And father-in-law.

[@redgree1645]

I am utterly surprised his out of prison after killing his family.

[@crimeatoz]

Yeah so were we 😔

[@NoniOfFive]

Oh my gosh, what a diabolical monster!!!😢 I was starting to get worried about you guys when I hadn’t seen an upload! Love you guys you’re amazing♥️🥰😎

[@crimeatoz]

Yes, he's the worst! I figured you might be worried about us 😊❤️ But don't worry! We just needed to work out some kinks. We're definitely here for the long haul and frankly, enjoying planning out all the cases and learning along the way. ❤️❤️❤️

[@NoniOfFive]

@@crimeatoz OK you know me too well now lol. Loving the male voice. Miss the ladies voice. Which is unusual for me. But you have such a lovely, voice, and great way of telling the story. I loved it in that one video when you said “when you see the rain pouring that is our tears!” Really touched my heart. Excellent! 💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@crimeatoz]

@noniof5219 Ah!!! That's such a coincidence!!!...we hadn't had it in the last few vids and in the one we just finished, we realized that and brought it back. It has always been meant to be something that people who know our channel (especially from the early beginning vids) will recognize. We mention it occasionally but not too often, to kinda make it special for people who know. We're so weird like that. 🤪 ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@NoniOfFive]

@@crimeatoz love it 😍 and love you guys too♥️

[@melaniebrown768]

Excellent presentation of an extremely complex case.

[@CiprianaLeme]

Amazing editing. Congrats on the incredible work. The voice is just right also .

[@CMs-Corner]

I have been binging this channel for the past three days (don't judge me >.

[@crimeatoz]

@CM-nj7je Lol, we won't judge at all! 😆 We appreciate the wonderful feedback ... it brings us joy, pride, and MOTIVATION!!! Thanks also for all the details, we know it takes time to write all that out and we appreciate it and you!!!❤️❤️❤️ >but salvaging himself for a mess he made Right!?!?! How much worse of a human being can you be? I f*d up, but I'll kill everyone I lied to, and keep myself alive. > ...but the problem with this one, why it's shocking me on such a grand scale... Wait til you see the next case, Woah!!! Such a selfish person causing SUCH sadness. Ohhhh And the one that's 1 vid after that is crazy too!!! Actually...now that I think about it, all of them coming up are staggering! I feel like we're getting pickier and picker with which cases to cover to make sure they're ones you guys want to see, so they're all pretty out there. Thanks again for writing in!!! ❤️

[@elizabethsmiarowski6710]

Binging too

[@cheetoesgal5229]

What an evil, disgusting monster!! I wish him veritable hell on earth for the rest of his worthless life. Incredible that he could murder and defraud that many people yet be released to live amongst society. May his victims RIP.

[@crimeatoz]

Yeah, that release was shocking and sad!

[@jeanettehinds4253]

I've never heard anything like this in my life.

[@ramel79]

Even Agatha Christie or Maurice novels can’t match this real life deceptions.

[@crimeatoz]

Right??!?! Fiction isn't nearly as crazy as this stuff!

[@ramel79]

@@crimeatoz I need to edit my comment… I meant “can’t “😬

[@crimeatoz]

@@ramel79 All good! 😍I understood it! ❤❤

[@ramel79]

@@crimeatoz Excellent job on your part for an almost accurate narration. I was an exchange student in Metz(near the German border) at the time of this horrendous event 😀

[@neveryearsold4140]

This was narrated very well!

[@crimeatoz]

Thank you!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@johnalden6584]

Very well assembled & presented video . Thank you for sharing.

[@mommam.6101]

No, a man like that should never be let out of prison. What is wrong with the justice system?

[@beverlybalius9303]

All these people were surely stupid,,, handing over large sums of money,, not even getting receipts….

[@juliecreaser878]

5 murders, attempted murder, possibly murdered one that was never investigated, murdered the family pet, swindled over one million dollars and ….. HE’S OUT 😱 Under the right circumstances this narcissistic pathological lier will kill again.

[@crimeatoz]

Best break down, right there!!! 👆🏽

[@Another_taco.Yes_please]

Just wow! I don't believe he can change. Cannot see why he has been released. Good job on the detail of this story.

[@lovepet4565]

I love your voice! One of my favorite on here! The Phony Dr is the Precursor to Chandler Halderson

[@petermokran381]

who knew that second year in college is the hardest.

[@crimeatoz]

Apparently, right?!? 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@mustardwhore]

@@crimeatoz As someone whos redone second year of uni three times. I couldn’t help but look into my reflection on the side mirror. What a wild journey that was. 🤦🏽‍♂️ alas, I managed to get through that bump and grab my degree in 2017. great story telling by the way!

[@crimeatoz]

Congrats on your degree, very well earned! And Thank you regarding the storytelling!!! ❤️

[@gracereeves5790]

Hadn't his father "fallen or been susiciously pushed down the attack stairs?"

[@Isabella-nh5dm]

Father-in-law!

[@Isa-js3ve]

Most probably.

[@TheZorlun]

In the same spirit, you have Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès, a man suspected of killing his whole family and dog in 2011, I say suspected because he is still running and search to this day. His wife, four children and dog were found one day buried in the backyard in the city of Nantes. I think that making a video on him would be a nice thing, to help shine a little light on the man so he could be apprehended one day and judged.

[@tonimilstead5089]

Satin really exists! What a monster 👹

[@chryssesandchaos]

What a monster, willing to kill his own family, to cover up his lies, but is not willing die. It would've been more understandable if he committed a murder suicide, not that it's any better, but at least, he was ready to join them in the afterlife, but this one, it's like he sacrificed his loved ones, people who trusted him, to save himself, that is just so evil.

[@crimeatoz]

SOOO evil!

[@justmemother2]

Narcissists are cowards

[@Doris-bs9mm]

Stories like this make me want to hide my money under a tree😂

[@crimeatoz]

lol Yeah, there's pretty much nowhere safe anymore, so might as well go for a tree! 😂

[@0rchy]

This serial killer gets a slap on the wrist. Someone should investigate the justice system regarding this case.

[@oyinade7426]

That’s what this type of lying lifestyle leads to. When a person gets so deep into lying and continually conjures up more and more lies, they start killing. That movie, “The Talented Mr. Ripley” is a good illustration.

[@jeanettegarrod-williams9150]

If he did this in the United States either he would be in prison for life or he would be executed. It all depends on the state he committed the crime in. I can't believe the minimal amount of time he got in France.

[@crimeatoz]

Neither could we!!! 💔💔💔

[@mgparis]

That's one good thing about the US: that life sentences can be stacked, i.e. he could have been sentenced for each of his crimes.

[@mgparis]

@@crimeatoz I feel truly sorry for Florence's family, especially for one brother who speaks to the press, he's truly broken that Romand is out of prison considering what he did...

[@crimeatoz]

@mgparis >he could have been sentenced for each of his crimes. Yessss that! ☝🏽

[@crimeatoz]

@mgparis 😢😢😢 re his brother