Murdered her family because they made her pay rent | Joseph McEnroe / Michelle Anderson

[@AdamsOlympia]

That's incredible that screams were heard on the 911 call but a locked gate was just too much of a deterrent for the cops. Criminal negligence and incompetence!

[@nylajn2620]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@Doriesep6622]

Exactly.

[@orlandojohnson5742]

That’s the part that really bakes your noodle!!!! D@m a locked gate!?!# It’s time to investigate further! Ikr!😮🤔🙄😤

[@lettiegrant9447]

It depends on the neighborhood. This was probably one where everybody always say " Oh nothing bad ever happens here." They go in with guns in certain neighborhoods.

[@keepitsimple4629]

AdamsOlympia, but an ordinary middle aged woman managed to get right around it. Maybe the cops were too overweight to circumvent it.

[@allhaildrewcifer9541]

Anyone that can kill a baby is pure evil

[@gowdsake7103]

Seems that is the catholic church then

[@scratchy1704]

​@@gowdsake7103 And plenty others.

[@R.Oates7902]

Absolutely PURE EVIL!!😢

[@gowdsake7103]

@@R.Oates7902 EVIL is the excuse christians give for their own depravity

[@danidakota7304]

No!! anyone that can kill a baby is way beyond pure evil. It is such an evil that need a completely new definition for the "evil of all evils". It is something so scary and so evil that the word for such a monster doesn't exist

[@TheRebeLLynn]

The poor sister. She lost everything. Luckily she was sick and her son was at his dads. Condolences to her.

[@psychicrenegade]

Talk about LUCK!!! Mary was SUPER lucky that she was sick on Xmas that year...and that her son was at his Dad's house! If she had been healthy, and if she had her son for the Xmas holiday that year, they would both almost certainly have been killed as well. Crazy to think about!

[@peaceogbomede1044]

She was so lucky to have escaped.

[@colleenb6712]

Yeah, but she has no family now other than her son.

[@kathybrown3160]

He shot her first so she wouldn't have to watch her own children die....how thoughtful of him!!! Did he really think that statement would score points for him?? Unbelievable!

[@madsdee7803]

He's full of it. Those two plotted to get rid of everyone so they could have everything and not have to work or doing anything.

[@madsdee7803]

I'm glad her sister and nephew didn't turn up that day.

[@UnscrupulousAgitator]

Why? That was so nice of him 🤦‍♀️ Evil bastard

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

Well, its good that he said that cuz it actually shows he’s NOT mentally ill.

[@Wings_of_foam]

@@HereIsWisdom1318 lol

[@Luv2u01]

Those poor souls. The little boy offering up the batteries despite what was happening, perhaps wanting to help fix it and make it better, and then being shot was one of the most heinous acts I’ve ever heard of. And then shooting the little girl too. I pray they can all rest in peace now. 😔🙏🙏

[@timreynolds4252]

Yea that was awful 😞 I watch all kinds of murder docs and the fact they go into detail about the little boy and him trying to offer batteries poor thing they don't deserve to live for what they done but dying is too easy . I hope the rest of their existence is miserable and painful and when they die I hope they rot in hell .

[@ImperfectlyPerfect33]

😪😪😪

[@midnightmadness5307]

I feel precisely the same way you do, this is all so senseless, evil and tragic, may they all rest in peace.❤❤🙏🏻🙏🏻 Rest Anderson's REST.

[@DrLuke49]

Michelle should have received life without parole and Joseph the death penalty.

[@CodenameDad]

That was what hit me the hardest too. I’ve watched so many of these, and that was literally saddest and most painful to hear. I’m in disbelief that anyone could do that. It’s forever planted in my brain and wish I didn’t watch this one

[@denisechristie]

What gets me is that a 911 operator gets a call, all they hear is screaming. The cops go to investigate, and oh my they couldn't get through a gate, and then leave?!?! WTF? Jump the fence.

[@nonabliss]

Yeah, those cops were highly negligent.

[@bjdlvr]

The really sad thing is that it was a driveway gate. Her friend from work just walked around it.

[@sterlHAsilva]

So a baby is dead and the most important thing in your mind is disrespecting the police?

[@sterlHAsilva]

Never mind the fact that legally they couldn’t do what you wanted them to do. Do you always turn into a child when you don’t get what you want or “expect”

[@Jezebellum-l2u]

@@sterlHAsilva Yes they could - exigent circumstances ...

[@paulos9900]

7 years to get to court is ridiculous in a case where they have the suspects from the beginning...

[@seancourtney9021]

I think it would be helpful to have shows like this talk/discuss in more detail why Court Cases unfold as they do. Having watched a lot of similar series,the focus is usually on the crime and the criminals,, and doesn't spend much time on how a case gets tried. I think we as viewers would benefit from that kind of information.

[@gabegood8989]

she tells you.. because of the changing laws it took 7 years @ 12:00

[@elleimonoyama152]

I have no idea how all these things work, so I'm always wondering what makes cases take so long to get to court. I can only think of the facts that they need to collect evidence & testimonies, plus the legal teams need to build their cases. Other than that, I have absolutely no idea why some cases take many years.

[@Shelsight]

Those cops who had been called after a 911 but stopped at a ‘locked gate’ should be ashamed the rest of their lives…

[@mylalababy666]

​@@Shelsight it's against the law in most states to enter a locked gate to private property without court order. You can not get a court order without a legit reason.

[@Nope-NotToday]

How 4 members of the jury were against giving him the death penalty, is beyond me

[@karinvantubbergh3418]

Not so. Only if you are a born again believer in Jesus Christ our Redeemer and Saviour.

[@kenotube3160]

@@karinvantubbergh3418there is no god, so no salvation. Death is death, the end of existence.

[@serenityflies1462]

@@kenotube3160 Jesus took the full weight of our sins on the cross, if you repent and believe in Him, you will know that Heaven is real

[@jenniferwellman5311]

@@serenityflies1462 🙄🙄🙄

[@kenotube3160]

@@serenityflies1462 no thanks, I have no intention of tethering my mind to a fairytale. Reality can sometimes be frightening and intimidating, but I’d rather remain sober, because reality and science are interesting and amazing. Nature is amazing. As an atheist, there is no need to fear death, because we won’t know when we are dead. No fear, no pain, no boredom, nothing. We were all dead before we were born. We just return to the harmless state of non-existence.

[@seangildersleeve1270]

God forbid you pay rent. Like a grown adult! I will never forget the fact the little boy was trying to give him batteries. How THEY could kill children is beyond me.

[@marthaperdew]

When I worked, I payed my parents rent ,I stayed at their house, ate their food ,slept in my room , did my laundry, cleaned up after myself

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

Not excusing this horrible incident. But young adults do have a hard transition from child (paying no rent) to adult (same living arrangement but paying rent). To a young adult brain I could see that her parents were not OUT anything by them living in the trailer on the property. Except if there were like water or sewage bills...then she should have had to pay those bills because that is what it is costing the parents. Rent is a foreign concept to young people. I think thrusting them into adulting too fast causes this kind of over reaction. imho.

[@JesusistheonetrueGod]

Abortion

[@nightskylights4501]

@@user-jy3zl2vp4b oh what total BS!!! There two sub-animal savages didn't work and didn't want to work! They were 29 and healthy. What a flocking ridiculous comment! And YES you ARE trying to make excuses for these disgusting pieces of bleep!

[@CanMoose]

​@@user-jy3zl2vp4bost kids I knew got jobs as soon as they could, and with that came paying rent.

[@kevwhit7058]

I hope she never gets respect in prison and she has to watch over her shoulder for the rest of her life!💯

[@garfield2439]

👍👍👍

[@Mjamcake2]

💯!!!

[@Alice-ge5oi]

Unfortunately women lifers form family units. It doesn't matter what your crime is. I did a year for drugs in the same prison Michelle's is in. The only comfort is she had to do five years in closed custody before being moved to medium where they can have some freedoms. Closed custody means you're locked down 23 hours a day.

[@studiosinger]

Don’t waste hope on these dark vengeful meditations. It will corrupt your soul. It’s all in God’s hands.

[@dementedopossum8148]

​@@studiosinger what a lot of BS.

[@keteimporta5036]

Wow the fact that the cops couldn’t walk around the gate and investigate is unbelievable

[@mikeespinoza5733]

blame the law these inbreds voted for, not the cops.

[@lewiscayla96]

Seriously, what if one still had a chance to survive.

[@kirkpatrick7475]

They probably had a donut order to collect

[@iiiisssssaaaaaacccccc]

@@kirkpatrick7475such a overuse cringe joke.

[@kirkpatrick7475]

@@iiiisssssaaaaaacccccc Never the less, it's fact !!

[@jydeinden]

I feel SO sorry for the sister that wasnt there when the others were killed. Not because she wasnt murded, but because she has to live with the pain the rest of her life, that her own sister was the reason she now has no family.

[@BeccaB529]

Absolutely. The survivor’s guilt has to be intense and thinking that somehow she might have been able to stop it had she been there. 😢

[@ravenclawtower6685]

The little boy was handing him the batteries after seeing they came out of the phone to help and he still shot him point blank. Hearing that part made me physically sick. RIP to all that died in this senseless act of pure evil.

[@tankthearc9875]

gut wrenching , monsters

[@kirkpatrick7475]

That is so heartbreaking !!!

[@Schrodingers_Kat]

This was the worst part. That the Gad no understanding of why was happening or why were they so angry and STILL tried to appease him.

[@nansmith8703]

Just how is it possible to do this?? I can’t imagine anyone doing it. Those little children😢😢😢.

[@j.j.kucala9835]

The death penalty is appropriate in this case because of the children. Unforgivable.

[@LichtAnker.]

There is no death because we are not our bodies. In the afterlife there is no judgment or punishment, only unconditional love and forgiveness. Death penalty is therefore salvation and an immediate shift to a life in paradise. A long prison sentence is the greater revenge/punishment.

[@dodgingbullets3503]

⚡Cold blooded pre-meditated Murders....

[@jeanm9521]

​@LichtAnker true judgment comes after death.

[@kathyturner6177]

You are so right. Just wait till prison they will wish they did get the death penalty.

[@briancleveland6115]

​@@LichtAnker. Those babies didn't get to live so why do they deserve to live ?

[@robinanderson2930]

I was wondering why this sounded like such a familiar story. My mom was part of the jury for this case. She came home everyday depressed and had to have a specialized therapist

[@nansmith8703]

I’m not surprised . It’s the killing of those little children 😢that really made this case insanely dreadful. Your poor mum.

[@robinanderson2930]

@@nansmith8703 I felt bad for her, especially since we have the same last name. People thought we were related to them and it sucked

[@laurenwest3090]

I hope your mum wasn't one of the idiots that didn't want to give the death penalty.

[@BeccaB529]

Can you perhaps fill me in on something I did not get from the video.? They both seemed to fully confess and stick to their confessions and always pled guilty, so why was there a trial at all?

[@rickynieves3144]

I hope that she is doing well 💕

[@bobbiegbert8448]

I’m just heartbroken over this horrible murder. I worked with Wayne Anderson when he lived in California. He was a wonderful friend, extremely caring about his family. Judy was also a fantastic friend and excellent Mother and Wife. Just before I left there for another job, Wayne told me Judy was pregnant. I can’t tell you how excited he was over this baby because there are no words to describe it. He was over the moon. He also wanted a little girl. I loved hearing him talk about his new baby. I lost track of Wayne and Judy but did stay in touch with other friends and still do, nearly 50 years later. I knew he had moved to Washington and worked at Boeing. Just a few years ago, while having lunch with some of my California friends, I found out what happened to Wayne and his family. I was horrified. I couldn’t imagine his little girl killing them all. The daughter he couldn’t wait to have and loved with all his heart did this. All I can say is I hope she knows that she killed the man that loved her more than any man on earth ever could. I grew up with a father who had no use for me except to use as a punching bag when he was drunk. I still cry when I think about how much love her father had for her and she threw it away.

[@crimeatoz]

Ohhhh the story was already so terribly sad, and that background breaks our hearts. Thank you for sharing what wonderful people they were ❤️❤️❤️

[@stephendacey8761]

I'm sorry to hear your friend and his family were senselessly murdered. Also, I hope you can overcome your childhood abuse.

[@benbunyip]

Thanks for your comment.

[@fatooshtkd]

I hear you..... I had a similar background, except with my "mother".... You became a beautiful, decent human being.... God bless you and yours always... When people decide to go down the road they did.... it never works out...

[@RSRJ15]

So sad Wayne wanted this baby girl who eventually took his and the other family members’ precious life :(

[@seriousorganizer]

He kills innocent BABIES yet they dont want to give him death? SICKENING!!!!!!!!!

[@dntkillthemssngr]

Right...completely ignoring the body count...more than 2 kills is technically a serial.killer

[@sarahpowpow777]

Death is too good for him. Let him wallow away for 23 hours a day in a cell with nothing but his thoughts.

[@dntkillthemssngr]

@@sarahpowpow777 exactly 💯

[@r0nb0h0ju]

​@@dntkillthemssngrmass murder, not serial.

[@B1B1B1B1-1]

Death penalty is the easy way out. I’d rather them spend the rest of their life behind bars being beaten

[@samanthaasher4739]

I hope everyone in prison knows what they did to those defenseless children.

[@mikeespinoza5733]

oh they do. Certain officers even let the lifers know when a chomo or kid killer is on his way there.

[@marybethstock1232]

Even criminals hate killers of children. Hope she gets what she really deserves while in prison.

[@sauce1232]

Prison justice is for movies. All immates care about is getting their hair braided and extra food.

[@ShayJaxson-m2z]

​@@sauce1232Agree. Men's prison can be tough but women's? Ha, just the opposite.

[@YouTube-tied]

@@ShayJaxson-m2z Not hardly. We have Purdy Women's Prison here in Washington and it's no joke. One of my brothers worked there for a while after McNeil Island closed and he said those bitches are brutal. I've heard the same from other staff that worked both prisons as well.

[@bernardfox9078]

Clear cut death penalty. Absolutely disgusting those 4 who let them off.

[@annebruecks7381]

So many people don't have the balls to do what needs to be done. They weren't being asked to do it personally, ffs!!!

[@theshadowfax239]

​@@annebruecks7381 I bet your mind is so small you can't even fathom the concept of people can have different morals and opinions than you.

[@Davidconservative]

I pray there’s karma for those four garbage human beings!

[@-.-Monster]

Liberals. The 4 that voted for life are ironically liberals.

[@ryanc2927]

Isn’t it the most tragic irony that she wanted to die in the end - but the publicity the trial seems to have brought made their defense seek a psychiatric COP OUT so they couldn’t! Just enough push in ego to tell the world that she wishes to die thinking anyone gives a shit! If they only knew how stupid it makes them sound and 10x more pathetic than before she murdered her own family w the help of a freak show who seems to have had none. What sick pedophile kills two children (in fantasy land to begin w) just so they would not report them - what 4 souls said this abomination should live is just about in the same category and probably never paid taxes in their lives - attending jury duty for a “free science experiment or field trip” missing their days of school as they wish they were kids again - matter of fact the whole community that spawned this stupid story can rot in hell as far as justice is concerned!

[@davidpaul6656]

Was it complete incompetence or just plain laziness that the cops didn't think of simply walking around the locked gate!? 🤔

[@crimeatoz]

could go either way!

[@brucewegmann183]

Not great police work, but, certainly would not have made any difference to the victims. It's the additional two-day delay I have real problems with.

[@elifield7149]

I choose to focus on a guy murdering children and getting to walk from a death penalty.

[@oLdSoulz420]

They were straight up laziness,they wanted to go home ......all the signs were there

[@micadean1600]

It was both, typical of the police.

[@My2Bunnies]

her poor sister, the only reason she is alive is because she didn't go there, but what she had to deal with after must have been unbearable

[@kimberlyhood4095]

That's what always kills me about this case, the officials that was doing a welfare check didn't breach the locked gates but her friend just walked around. If it's a welfare check you'd think that it would behoof them to do the same. Private property or no that should have sent up red flags.

[@superstringsbro]

They were scared. They didn’t want to go in.

[@Helladamnleet]

The thing is too they were responding to a 911 call FROM THE RESIDENCE. Like, locks and gates be damned.

[@j.j.kucala9835]

It sickens me that cold blooded murderers always are concerned about themselves. I this and I that . They forfeited their miserable lives when they committed their unspeakable actions.

[@crimeatoz]

yes, that 👆

[@8BitEpidemic]

I mean, if you're willing to murder people without a second thought, including children, then it makes a lot of sense that all you'd care about is yourself. No one else on Earth matters to these people except for themselves.

[@ritawashere5787]

Michelle and Joseph are not only murderers and Despicable but they're lazy. Her parents work and they just wanted some rent for the house the couple was staying in. Such a vital Behavior.

[@tessaducek5601]

One would think so until one realizes the good life prisoners have.

[@mariaorourke5236]

I do think that's a good acid test. Perpetrator feeling sorry for themselves rather than victims is bad. Sorry, your honor. My mum traumatised me with her dreadful burned porridge when I was little. My brother bopped me on the nose and chased me around with spiders. My teacher made me write lines, 'I will not kill any more cats', 'I will not insert any more boiling hot screwdrivers into my friend's orifices', 'I will not desecrate the alter or pee in the baptismal font'. Yup. No concern or remorse for the victim is bad sign.

[@kaprifleming1124]

Olivia (little girl) was my best friend in kindergarten. Her lost was devastating to all of us young kids who didn’t understand why our sweet friend was gone. 💔

[@superstringsbro]

What did they tell you happened to her? How many years ago did this happen?

[@omgurheadsgone]

@@superstringsbroDecember 2007… it’s clearly mentioned in the video lol. So almost 16 years ago .

[@martinszion_mz]

Evil daughter killed her

[@n0tofthisw0rld]

I am so sorry you went thru that 😢💔

[@superstringsbro]

@@omgurheadsgone I clearly didn’t want to go rewatch it.

[@idaornstein1305]

What sort of police did they have there? “Oh, gate’s locked”, lets go, can’t do anything. Ridiculous and more to the point totally irresponsible!

[@wolfeflambe]

Really bad police. Sadly there’s a lot of them about.

[@ayylynn2325]

Well, put it this way: imagine that they get an unclear call with screaming in the background, break the lock to get onto the property, stomp in the door, and low and behold, the screaming call was a butt dial while a couple is having sex, no one's murdered, its not even an emergency, just a mistake. They would be so sued, and also probably fired. The probable cause has to be acute, it can't just be "oh I got a weird call and had a weird feeling" because no judge is gonna sign off on breaking the lock of a gate on private property for that. It's not always that cops are careless, a lot of the time the law keeps them from helping.

[@IdahoRanchGirl]

Washington police. Their Governor is totally whacked.

[@IdahoRanchGirl]

​@@ayylynn2325well, put it this way, what if it was some ppl being murdered who actually did call for help? Just that little chance should override the chance it was someone having sex. Never heard pleasure screams like what we just heard though. Even in bdsm.

[@ayylynn2325]

@@IdahoRanchGirl you're focusing too much on the sex aspect lol, just any scream with no callback and a closed property, they would be risking their jobs breaking onto that property. Even when they have access to a property they have to wait for a warrant, which won't get approved by a judge for a weird call and a scream. It's unfortunate that people do die because the system works this way, but the other side of it is like that innocent woman who was shot in her bed because the cops raided the wrong house. We need these laws in place that keep cops from accessing our property without explicit permission because it does ultimately keep people safe and avoids false allegations. The downside is situations like this, where a locked gate keeps someone from getting help, but changing it would end in a lot more bloodshed and incarceration.

[@crimeatoz]

The murder of the sweet innocent children is what got us. Pure callousness and evil. Still shocked they were able to carry out the murders successfully given their incompetence, though.

[@brucewegmann183]

I want to know what the hell was wrong with those four idiot jurors in the penalty phase who found the cold-blooded murder of TWO children insufficient to impose the death penalty. Now, the public is saddled with the cost of warehousing these two pieces of human garbage for a lifetime. How is this supposed to be justice?

[@patsykluting-lucas3804]

Curious whose voice on this video?

[@ashleyshelton3748]

Harsher punishment for people who harm children. Period. Then maybe others would stop and think first. I'm talking public han¿ing punishment. I'm sorry. I know two wrongs bla bla. But it just makes so sad and angry that an adult could harm a baby. Period.

[@jaytay8637]

But it wasn't calculated murder, it was an all out massacre !

[@mariaorourke5236]

​​@@jaytay8637I agree. Calculated murder, all out massacre. Aren't they the same? Death penalty, or hundreds of years in prison? Well I do wobble backwards and forwards on this one.

[@keneshamack271]

I could never fathom killing my siblings, niece, nephew, and definitely not my parents. This is so crazy that this young lady and young man would do this to her family.

[@TariAkpodiete]

The fantasy that her brother owed her even a single penny is ridiculous!

[@isabellind1292]

And parents don't owe their adult children ANYTHING! If I dared to suggest that my parents owed me an inheritance or anything else, I shouldn't be the least bit surprised if they made damn sure they spent every last penny before they died. I wouldn't blame them!

[@snooganslestat2030]

Killing the brother wasnt going to get her money back, fool.

[@isabellind1292]

@@snooganslestat2030 Why are you being so uncivil over something the sister said? Good luck talking to people like that in your daily life...gross!

[@odyDgonz]

This is the most thorough & best version of this tragic case that I've ever seen. I appreciate the respectful manner in which you narrated these events.

[@crimeatoz]

Thank you!!! We will keep doing our best for you and always stay 100% respectful!

[@skyeblu1722]

Wow….if I was narrating this, I certainly would not attempt to be respectful of these two monsters.

[@jillybean3688]

It's a horrendous crime. No respect needed.

[@fatooshtkd]

@@crimeatoz It's not really the need to be "respectful" it's the need to just keep it black and white and to the point.

[@Rebelmutt507]

That poor women who found the family and her friend that way just awful I hope she finds healing

[@lindacarruthers3423]

It seems more than reasonable to fire the police who failed to check the property because of a locked gate . Good grief , what sort of men are these.

[@jaytay8637]

It would be unthinkable that they should actually walk !

[@icac6122]

Welcome to this day of age professionalism

[@Ashley-zg9jo]

They'd need a warrant

[@Davidconservative]

@@Ashley-zg9jo not for a 911 call. And then if you look in the windows and see probably cause you have every right to make entry. Once you find the bodies and clear the house then it’s best to get a search warrant. I have gone to murders, rapes and especially signal 87 which are domestics and I hear screaming I don’t need a warrant to enter that residence. But then again this is Georgia where I retired and the crime happened in the state of Washington which is an insane state, in my opinion.

[@Alma2525]

Uvalde police cowards

[@marveloussoftware1417]

8:35 "Gate is locked. Unable to gain access." That's odd, the friend was able to 'gain access.' What lazy cops, deplorable.

[@debbiebasche5337]

And that's a perfect example as to why people think we should defund the police...

[@marveloussoftware1417]

@@debbiebasche5337 defend the police? LOL, I wanna hear people say that as crooks are walking out their house with their stuff!!

[@debbiebasche5337]

@@marveloussoftware1417 defund...not give law enforcement money...

[@marveloussoftware1417]

@@debbiebasche5337 defend = no police. Unless you intend of doing a job for free, no one will. Its common sense.

[@debbiebasche5337]

@@marveloussoftware1417 lol... surely you have heard the outcry of "defund the police" ? I didn't just think it up this morning... defend/defense...to back up or be on that side....my point being alot of these Police Departments don't earn their paychecks..we need not to hand them over money just because some think the law is the only ànswer...

[@MissWishes]

⭐️🏆⭐️ Crime A-Z.. The reporting & information in this piece was brilliant, the voice over was excellent & the final part was outstanding! Too many times viewers are left disappointed & searching for the final outcome to a story. Kudos to you for providing a FULL story!

[@jilla-dr9hu]

He didn’t want to get turned in???? Those are baby’s. Anyone that can take the life of a child really dosent belong on this earth. That is the definition of pure evil

[@crimeatoz]

👆🏻

[@Poeticfloetic]

*Babies plural *doesn't

[@gilla2092]

​@@Poeticfloeticcringe.. if you care so much about proper grammar, go teach some kids that need help. this is just loser behavior

[@janesansome8393]

​@Poeticfloetic she doesn't need an English lesson.don't be so condescending.

[@dral9971]

Why did she want respect from people she hates? Did she seriously believe that was how the world worked?

[@JessicaO490Z]

I can't imagine what she thought they should respect her for... Mooching proficiently? 😣 With the mention of paranoia, there was probably some meth involved too.

[@kellycuckoo3143]

The best friend finding her is beyond heartbreaking. I pray for her, and the victims families. They deserve the death penalty!

[@n8turejourney]

I feel so sorry for the remaining family members. And I pray for every single first responder on the scene and the detectives. The pure evil and horror they had to see will be with them forever.

[@VickyCooksalot]

How is being included in the Christmas dinner invitation not showing respect? I'm still mystified as some criminals thinking.

[@oldbat2ccats]

So true. Entitled woman-child.

[@ashleyshelton3748]

Yeah and living on their property for free for a year.

[@robert48044]

Bad people. Watch the comments and you'll see how side comments might pile up on someone. People will treat you like a piece of shit instead of kicking you off of the property because what others might think of them not so much because of love.. Once again you leave and don't commit murder. I think it a bit dishonest to say I'll never understand how someone can do something like this. Lots of jacked up people in the world and their are some who don't understand that. peace be with you

[@ashleyshelton3748]

@@robert48044 that makes sense. I agree.

[@robert48044]

@@ashleyshelton3748 I hate to sound like a future topic of a video but I watch these videos and you can sorta see it over and over again. Rent seems to be a trigger more and more with family murders. Once again get a job or move out. Looks like everyone but the killers were happy and they let it fester being bums instead of improving their own situation then lashing out. They brought it upon themselves for being in the situation. Families arnt always rainbow and butterflys, sometimes there's resentment and hard feelings that go unchecked for a while. Emotions will having you act out without thinking of the repercussions.

[@callen8908]

It’s a sad and important thing to remember - when a person is murdered, it’s usually by someone in their own family, or a spouse, former spouse, someone they were dating or had dated, a “friend” or a business partner. The world is not full of random dangers despite what some people pretend

[@BMarie774]

“And she’s my best friend” man… man.. For some reason I pictured my mom coming upon a scene of her best ex coworker/best friend. Horrific. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. My best friend is genuinely like a sister to me. We are family and it’s just “different”. It FEELS like our families are related. I love her, her mom, and her kids so much and they feel more like family than some of my own blood relatives do. I always say if people can marry into a family, what’s the difference between just deciding to be family? I love my best friend and this would just be something I couldn’t fathom.

[@crimeatoz]

Yes, agree with all of that!!! 😭

[@VintageRose75]

I feel the exact same way with my besties...you worded it perfectly....how they are the family we chose for ourselves.

[@annebruecks7381]

That part hit me badly as well!

[@rebeccaleegabbard]

I am an only child, my besties are my chosen sisters. I cherish each of them. We weren’t born related, but we chose each other, which is very special to me

[@1805movie]

I live in Carnation. It was originally called "Tolt" when it was first founded, but then changed to "Carnation" once the Carnation Milk Company moved into town. It's a loving farm community where everyone knows everyone. If you ever needed a hand with something, there's always someone there to help. We're mostly known for, not only Carnation Milk, but also Remlinger Farms, and our annual 4th of July Parades. This is the one incident we'd never let define our town, and most of us would rather forget that it happened. I was 16 when it happened, and it was surreal knowing that something as twisted as this could happen just a few miles from my neighborhood. Judy Anderson was very well liked in the community, and her absence was definitely felt. Their deaths were incredibly senseless, and the perpetrators responsible for their said deaths are monsters (plain and simple). Knowing that one of the killers was their own daughter/sister/aunt makes it even more sickening. In terms of their sentencing: it was the appropriate one. They deserve to spend the rest of their lives behind bars knowing they took 6 innocent lives, and ruined their own. Giving them the death penalty would've been WAY too easy of a way out. Anyway, I just wanted to share my perspective. Thanks for covering this.

[@cathyboyd5545]

Wow, Thank you so much for the really interesting information about the town and the people. I'm so sorry you all had to go through that, I'm sure it was really difficult. Thank you for sharing again.❤

[@reelmermaid8844]

I hope you and your community are able to heal after a senseless tragedy like this. Peace brother.

[@Cleatus546]

Those two heroes that were stumpted by the locked gate should work for the Uvalde police dept.

[@harryv6752]

They are probably related to them Ulvade cops. Just sayin'.

[@rainamatherly3362]

Adding to the sickness of this...I think the woman, realizing they weren't going to get away with it, was pushing for death penalty, not because of remorse...but because death would mean not having to serve all that time in prison. Seems pretty calculated, to me. All the way to the end!

[@crimeatoz]

Yep!

[@shay4ojibwa638]

The little boy offering him the batteries, only to be shot, ripped my heart. I have 2 boys who were once just like that sweet little boy. So it hit too close to home for me. I hope they stay locked up the rest of their lives.

[@barthansard7058]

And I hope that the rest of their lives are an endless torment.

[@taramay8174]

That Joseph sounds mentally slow

[@trashcanchic]

​@@taramay8174He just has a common speech impediment. The rest of his behavior on the stand - the twitch, moving his head around like a drugged snake, closed eyes - was all faked to garner sympathy/less prison time.

[@neilseymour4845]

They are beyond the most evilest couple to do that to their own family. I am glad they never got the death penalty. Let them suffer every day in prison knowing what they did

[@Sorrowablaze]

I watch a bunch of true crime stuff, and I've heard some terrible senseless deaths .... That said, the mental image of a 3 year old boy, who just saw his grandma get shot in the head.... reaching out to the murderer with batteries in his open hand is just too much. How could anyone do it? And for absolutely no reason.

[@crimeatoz]

Yes, how!!! We can't even shake it and we're not the killer. Just don't understand how they can sleep at night, but if they're heartless enough to do it, maybe they have no problem. 😢

[@mariaorourke5236]

I'm retired early years teacher. If a little one bumped their head, fell over in the playground, or whatever, I was really upset. Felt I had failed. Maybe the small one had to go to doctor or hospital. So awful to phone the poor parents. One little one broke an arm on climbing equipment. An accident. Not on purpose. How can you kill a child, or anyone? So sad about this one. It's outside any thing I can conceptualise. Children are our beautiful gift to the future. What kind of monster hurts a child?

[@shay3519]

He actually watched his grandma and own mother get murdered because he said he short the mom first so she wouldn’t have to see her children get murdered

[@lostmojo]

Screams on the phone and a locked gate, there could have been tortured people inside or a kidnapping going on and the police didn't go in.

[@mikeespinoza5733]

blame the rednecks who vote for stupid laws that keep cops from doing their job.

[@thearodriguez8073]

They were tortured.

[@keepitsimple4629]

The police couldn't get through the locked gate, but a middle age woman did. That's pathetic. What do we pay them for?

[@justice2255]

Im so sick of 911 and police making the least effort possible even after hearing clear screaming,

[@minettefrederick3239]

I think if someone asks for the death penalty they should get it.

[@sanelceric8438]

they win then. they dont want to live with those memories and the worst punishment for them is to have them relive that moment every waking second until they go insane and die naturally.

[@JaceB-tf3vf]

@@sanelceric8438I get what you’re saying, but the world would be better without them breathing

[@lisamarie5948]

Nah. Then they get what they want and don't have to live with what they did or spend the rest of their miserable lives in prison. Make them suffer. Sit there for the rest of their life with no freedom and thinking about what they did.

[@sopi4]

No, you shouldt give them what they WANT.

[@IdahoRanchGirl]

Immediately.

[@halfasleepvampire7545]

I never thought I'd feel the desire for someone else to suffer as much as I do when I think about what they put those children through. They deserve to be tormented.

[@angiescarberry4339]

So sickening! Them poor babies just keep going through my mind

[@LL-ys9cr]

The amount of evil that must be in a person's psyche to do things like this. Unbelievable.

[@Agnar669]

They obviously thought they could kill the family, and "inherit" the property, and they wouldn't have any rent bills!

[@alexhankins2553]

"But even though wounded, the strong, determined mother was still fighting to protect her children"

[@justbe1451]

The death penalty is too easy for crimes like this, they need to spend every waking day remembering their horrific actions.

[@alanmcneill2407]

Yes, on the end of a hammer breaking rock...every day, 12 hrs a day...

[@spicyirwin5835]

They dont have a conscience tho.

[@cubwals03]

Agreed 💯

[@veronicajackson1674]

Sick! She didn’t deserve respect from the family! They killed over being respected! How evil to murder people who loved you! I don’t know how anyone could kill children.. a special place in hell for these two

[@kaylaniamarie98]

This is so sad . Those Innocent babies didn’t deserve that . 💔

[@leeprice8370]

All of the victims were innocent and didn’t deserve this

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Wow. I remember when this happened! I was enjoying my first holiday season as a parent and it was so shocking and terrifying. Made me hug my baby a little closer...

[@Geminei]

These stories always make me tearful and give my son a hug and kiss. I couldn't imagine life without him and couldn't imagine him turning into a monster. Horrible to think someone's child turned pure evil. That was someone's precious little baby once :(

[@damienluxford4480]

That's so sad, how they murdered those poor little kids.

[@forestxander]

What a freaking horrible story. That poor mum trying to protect her children. Your presentation here is very good. Disturbing but well done.

[@Shay_-cq2cl]

Yeah, when my dad started charging me rent, I moved out and got my own place. It’s called growing up.

[@heartjourney7925]

I’m suddenly less remorseful of cutting of toxic family members.

[@Horselover922]

it's so ridiculous that a gate... kept them from coming in after a 911 call was made and screaming was heard. they had a reason to bust it down just from that and would've gotten so much more evidence.. I hope these people rot in jail those poor children

[@benmcreynolds8581]

If they want the death penalty. The worst outcome you can give them, is to NOT grant them that. Make them suffer thru time, instead of going out quick. (what they did is so disgusting, they achieved nothing but horrific atrocities & suffering. They are the worst humans & criminals on the planet)

[@LichtAnker.]

There is no death because we are not our bodies. In the afterlife there is no judgment or punishment, only unconditional love and forgiveness. Death penalty is therefore salvation and an immediate shift to a life in paradise. A long prison sentence is the greater revenge/punishment.

[@razony]

Yes! I no longer want the death penalty. I want these MONSTERS to suffer. They deserve pity in their next life.

[@tessaducek5601]

What a gaggle of delusional idgits! They don't suffer. They live better than thousands of homeless and veterans do! They don't think twice about their victims nor their familes. Only themselves. Bunch of damn bleeding hearts!

[@nicolesaunders081]

Exactly. She's done getting to decide who lives and who dies, including herself.

[@cubwals03]

I definitely agree

[@robertyanes4751]

Those monstrous fiend murderers completely got away with it. They should have gotten the slowest death penalty. Those poor children. It infuriates me that those idiot simpleton jurors...gave them a life sentence. Outrageous!

[@LM-hb6yn]

For what it's worth, I've heard ex cons say that life in prison without the possibility of parole is worse than a death sentence. It's actually a very slow agonizing death in a sense. Although if you believe in God and justice in the next life, anything is better than being cast into hell.

[@BeRightBack131]

I agree. They should have been sentenced to death. I personally think the sentence should also be carried out by 1) electric chair, 2) gas chamber, 3) hanging, 4) firing squad. I really don't think lethal injection is a severe enough punishment for most cases. After all, most perpetrators killed their victims in especially brutal and heinous ways, such as these 2 did. Unless the state is willing to inflict upon the perpetrator the EXACT same manner of death (ie stabbing the perpetrator if the perpetrator stabbed their victim), the very least we could do is give a similarly brutal execution.

[@BeRightBack131]

​​@@LM-hb6ynI think it probably depends on the person. I've heard that Jodi Arias, Chris Watts, and a few others report that they're very happy in prison. Jodi is like the superstar, everyone loves her, she produces art or jewelry or something like that, which she sells for commissary funding. Chris Watts is reportedly very relaxed and content, he gets to have pictures of his girls and wife (victims) plastered all over his cell, and receives insane amounts of fan mail and marriage proposals, which apparently makes him extremely happy. Doesn't sound like they're having such a terrible time...

[@RSRJ15]

I’m shocked what more heinous crime the 4 jurors wanted to see to give a death penalty. When kids are involved it should go straight to death penalty. Wonder if those jurors even have a heart and how they live their lives?

[@pauldavis5665]

If you want the "slowest death penalty", then that is life in prison. They are going to die anyway, there is no escaping that. Why not let them suffer for many decades living in a small prison cell before their inevitable death comes? Death penalty is just a quick way out of their suffering.

[@Rainmanking]

As a juror do they ask if they’re pro or against capitol punishment? Because I can’t see why anyone would be against it against these monsters

[@mimyku5770]

Wow! This is one of the best true crime channel on KZbin! Excellent work! I really can see the hard work put into every video. Thank you for the detail you are putting into the every video, using actual 911 calls, photos and videos rom beginning to end! Truly going to be one of the strongest channels here!

[@crimeatoz]

omg thank you for the support and compliments! We'll make sure we always strive to meet all the high standards! So glad to hear our picky-ness is paying off! 😜

[@adambane1719]

Who do you work for ? ?

[@CaliCarolyn]

Agree completely. Love everything you did in covering this case. Excellent job! I liked and sub’d immediately.😊. Thank you for being here! I’ll be tuning in regularly.😊❤️

[@donnamuller6460]

Somewhere years ago I saw an extended version of this case, mostly dealing with Joseph’s trial. That fake tic of his and his voice that suddenly became soft and effeminate only in front of the jury drove the prosecution WILD with seething anger. Joseph would just blatantly turn it off and on, and say things like, “I’ve been trying to become a gentler person.” But no one could hear him until he said it 3 times, after a lot of throat clearing and pretending. My head hurts just writing about it. The first time he spoke in court on your episode I thought, OMG it’s that POS again!

[@crimeatoz]

Yuck! He's quite dispicable.

[@kenmarelove9176]

Just found your channel and I have to say, I saw this story years ago but your version of it is so much more in depth. Appreciate the work you put into it, subbed.

[@CG-dz9fl]

They deserve nothing less than the death penalty. Looking a child in the eye and then shooting the little one in the head is PURE EVIL.

[@shifrabaila4074]

The fact that the Jury did not vote for the death penalty in Michelle's trial may be a more fitting punishment for her as she expressed a desire to be put to death. Most likely, she could not commit suicide for some reason. She may have wanted to die, but could not do it herself, so wished for the state to do it for her. By not voting for the death penalty, Michelle's actually received a harsher punishment.

[@rickynieves3144]

The surviving daughter and other family of the victims should be awarded a settlement from the police department. If they'd gone to the residence, they might have saved at least one of the victims. Not everyone dies right away from a gunshot wound. It's possible that one or more were unconscious but clinging to life. They failed that family. Any 911 call, even disconnected with no audio should be treated as a full scale emergency. 😢

[@mhopkins7954]

That thing with the police is just horrendous. If they thought somebody was smoking weed without a license they sure would have been kicking down to the gate. 95% of police officers are dirty or inept.

[@gailcaldwell1512]

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING….What kind of BUMBLING COPS were these? Locked gate…No Access? What a ridiculous and senseless mess! I wonder how much respect she gets in prison?

[@mikeespinoza5733]

cops that follow the law and dont trespass? Whats it like being stupider than a cop?

[@peter-sr1zd]

This is why we have the death penalty. Use it

[@judybrown7601]

Clean up the jails. I believe in the death penalty.

[@loredanadincu4300]

​@Judy Brown clean up what. There are plenty of people that got the dead penalty and they weren't executed. They lived in prison till they died of natural causes. Plenty of cases. Even well known serial killers.

[@captainhennahead2323]

What is wrong with some people??!!! Wow! Great coverage. Subscribed.

[@mibeatleman6767]

Killing children is beyond me, Killing anyone is beyond me really but children especially, may God have mercy on their souls, if they still have one after that. 🕯💔

[@sidhayes6168]

I hope not

[@alanmcneill2407]

Sorry, maybe its a personal flaw of mine, but I do not hope for mercy on their souls. I hope for justice.

[@dobermommartha]

I’ve heard about this case before…but I hadn’t seen or had knowledge of the court proceedings. You have a fabulous voice for narrating! I really mean this. I’m not in favor of the death penalty.. I believe that a lethal injection is too easy a death, and the prisoner can appeal the sentence for quite a while.

[@crimeatoz]

Thank you and YES, that👆🏻!!! Is the death penalty more of an actual "penalty" than life sentence??? TOOOOTALLY depends on your perspective.

[@fatooshtkd]

@@crimeatoz Most beings, human or otherwise do NOT want to die.

[@BeRightBack131]

So YOU are the kind of person who would get on a jury and let these monsters off so easy. I hope you are NEVER given the opportunity to screw up a murder case with your bleeding heart bullshyt.

[@moontalk7-d2f]

I remember this case. I live in WA and a family friend had moved there after the murders happened. This case was massive and very disturbing. Carnation really is such a cute town. It's horrible what happened to the family.

[@allenhaywood9608]

Respect doesn't float out of your body when you die like a soul someone should tell her this

[@gowdsake7103]

A soul ha ha ha ha

[@Chronically_JBoo]

Damn this is depressing. Poor Olivia having saw everything n being killed last. I cant even imagine

[@mikeespinoza5733]

yep freezing up like a prey animal instead of running like a sentient being with survival instincts really fucked her and her kids over.

[@nvue141]

So the best friend can get through the locked gate to find the dead bodies, but not the police. Interesting.

[@SerenDipity64711]

I love how the perpetrators always look well groomed and clean once they go on trial. As if their outward appearance would sway the jury🙄

[@alanmcneill2407]

Unfortunately, in some cases, it does.

[@SerenDipity64711]

honestly? that is crazy!@@alanmcneill2407

[@rebeccaleegabbard]

I can remember when this happened, I live north of Seattle. It was unbelievable. In the beginning nobody knew what happened and it was scary thinking a crazed killer was on the loose. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how you could look at your family as you killed them, especially a baby.

[@juliejr]

She doesn't deserve the death penalty she deserves to suffer every day of her miserable life for what she did 😢

[@johnbailey4128]

That's the job of a defense attorney to get a fair trial. No matter how bad the crimes are. A good attorney will tell them, and feel the guilt and plea bargain when possible.

[@evilladollyz7602]

There's some truly evil people in this world. I'll never understand how anyone can kill another person let alone children.

[@lindabroad7391]

My mother charged me rent and told me all adults pay rent. Her parents charged rent when my mom got to be a teenager, with the admonition that paying some rent helps you get ready for adulthood. Your parents were right. My God, you are beyond evil.

[@melissaferguson9650]

Isn't It weird how two evil people meet up.

[@billfarley9167]

Unbelievable! I'm totally horrified. May they rot in prison.

[@nancydoudell2026]

Now she doesn’t have to pay rent. In fact, we pay for her rent, her food and shelter, as well as her prison clothes. She actually benefits from the structured environment.

[@stjohnssoup]

She should work and pay rent and food. She should be given the bare minimum

[@mwild8787]

Just saying... 2 evil and terrible monsters!! The Judge, the DA and especially Mary...absolute class! Heartbreaking and senseless. I hope my best friend would love me as much as she loved Judy. Reminds me of Nicole in the Watts case. Love from New Zealand💗💗

[@tessaducek5601]

I recall this. Those two were disgusting lazy jobless ingrates. She bullied the boyfriend. I don't believe he has a very high IQ which allowed her much control. He was not so much dumb as simple. If this makes sense. Easily manipulated. Its doubtful he would have ever done anything like this without her pulling his strings. One thing that is commendable if anything can be. She excepted blame. No whining or blaming others. In other coverage its said she was upset and jealous of her brother and that her parents were not going to keep supporting them. Plus they did feel they should pay rent. She felt everyone was against her. Its such a sick sad wake up call to realize your whole family is dead because you felt betrayed and entitled. The babies were just horrendous. What did they do? Eight lives gone. For what?

[@user-fp5ow8wy5n]

You people do such a wonderful job of gathering all relevant information. Thanks for your hard work

[@nicoledion7132]

Save money to the state and just get rid of these murderers 🤬🤬🤬

[@sauce1232]

Death penalty cost much more than life without parole because it is 20 years of appeals and justice cost

[@karinvantubbergh3418]

Respect must be earned.

[@R.Oates7902]

My dad demanded it from me and my siblings. He never got it from me! I'm glad he's dead!

[@truthseeker5496]

It took 7 years to get to court ?!?! Is every judge crooked. Don’t give me this law crap. When people go around murdering like that it should be the death penalty the next week! This is just sickening!!

[@oldbat2ccats]

I’m very glad I came across your channel , I subscribed after watching tha first video. I like that they are short and to the point though very thoroughly covered. How could a daughter and sister be so cruel, especially to the children ? They must have been so scared. I hope Michelle and her husband get some prison “justice” delivered to them. I hope the souls of those people who were killed find peace wherever they are. 💔🕊

[@crimeatoz]

Agreed, they were so senseless and heartless in this case. 😢Thanks for subscribing and we look forward to seeing you around! ❤️❤️❤️

[@gailknight3128]

How awful, why kill the poor children as well. The only thing I can think is they probably died quickly and not in pain. I hope. The people who did this should rot in hell.

[@dannycreech4177]

7:25 you can hear screaming and at least 4 gun shots on a 911 call and the police respond to the property find a locked gate and decide that that is all they can do?? I dont know how this story ends yet but whom ever was in charge of that department or that police response to that situation needs fired, they are incompetent and should find different jobs.

[@MemeProphet]

One of the few times I've genuinely felt sick over what they did. This is just so senseless and evil. The poor kids and adults. The battaries 😥