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[@FalbereChan]

Time for new pinned for those saying it literally says "initial d arcade stage" in title so we should expect it to be unrealistic... "arcade" ≠ "unrealistic", despite how most people use arcade to reference an action racing game. There are plenty of realistic racing games out there on arcade. Battle Gear 4 have physics that's even beyond the GT series on playstation, the pro cabinet comes with clutch, H-speed shifter and handbrake. F355 challenge provided one of the most accurate track experience ever on any game, period. And coming from me I had competed in Project Cars 2 local tournaments before, and also played iRacing and Assetto Corsa.

[@wr8079]

are you singaporean?

[@Jolynenizuma22]

Question where do I go to buy initial d games

[@joelbenny7996]

Would really love a history of initial d arcade games

[@miKe-fp2vq]

But how would the initial d arcade be realistic if the driving in the actual show is not realistic at all

[@antarcticpenguin1151]

id refer to them as simcades rather than arcades, you see, if the gameplay is focused on realism while maintaining the thrill that arcade games would provide, that would make it a sim-arcade hybrid.

[@mayuravirus6134]

You guys argue about realism!? i argue why is there no arcade machine of Initial D OVER MY PLACE

[@SP3C7REGaming]

Just download the emulated version, I used to pay alot of money but then I downloaded it and play it alot.

[@pathos8307]

@@SP3C7REGaming same dude

[@ILTAM_SUMRA_RASHUPTI_ELATIM]

@@SP3C7REGaming source please

[@SP3C7REGaming]

@@ILTAM_SUMRA_RASHUPTI_ELATIM kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5ispqmQm65-p9k A good starting point. Just know that it isn't easy for everyone to setup. Good luck

[@edmund8954]

@@SP3C7REGaming dont have a wheel :(

[@technoguyx]

It's unrealistic because you'd need Takumi levels of skill to even play a realistic Initial D game decently.

[@shadow1fun777]

uhhhhh, no its a steering wheel setup so minute adjustments are possible, I'm no keiichi but I touge my car and its easier than you think, its about the right platform

[@yungpradafart-rx6gq]

@@shadow1fun777 r/whoosh

[@wintrsxo8646]

@@shadow1fun777 no assists? Teach me that cause im fucking terrible T_T

[@shadow1fun777]

@@wintrsxo8646 practice mostly lol, on my channel i have speedruns for beamng and it shows steering input as well as throttle, usually you will want to slowly turn in to shift the weight of the car to prepare for full turn in for a smooth corner, but it mostly depends on your style and the car you use. In real life i drive a 1983 civic which is fwd so the main struggle is understeer, i have a tiny bit of toe out to counter it but a rwd wont need that

[@devlintaylor9520]

i swear sim-cades are easier than arcade games

[@renarts2211]

i mean no shit its unrealistic its name is initial d *arcade*

[@Raphayel]

renarts lol

[@ZX3000GT1]

A lot of older arcade games are actually designed to be realistic. Classic example including SEGA Ferrari F355 Challenge, with 3 displays and realistic handling. Newer examples include Battle Gear 4 Pro Tuned, with H Shifter and Clutch pedal.

[@bako-d]

Oh yeah we need a full 0-100 history on arcade stage

[@yeetcoolguy8518]

yes!

[@De_kaid]

Really feels like lots of people nowadays look down on arcade racing as it's not as realistic as any sim when one doesn't even cancel out the other. All I can get out of the definition of an arcade game is an easy accessible game with a relatively low skill entry barrier. Even then that doesn't mean a low skill ceiling aswell. I've played arcade racers that felt more difficult to master than simulators, but I can also understand that looking at how many popular arcade racers nowadays seem rather lazily made you'd be lead to think that these kinda games just don't offer a whole lot.

[@CaroFDoom]

I mean when people generally think of arcade racers I'd argue one of the most loved eras was the mid 2000's black box nfs games, which definitely weren't completely realistic by any means but they had a mix of being grounded in reality with normal car controls, but exaggerated to a point where your turbocharged dodge neon could do 180mph everywhere. The most recent game that comes somewhat close to this style would be GTAV, which isn't even a racing game, and has its own weird bag of tricks.

[@frontierwingsix5196]

All i know is that I love playing Initial D and Wangan Midnight maximum tune 5dx at my arcade.

[@theraiden9631]

They only good for insulting arcade, while they cant play good at arcade or sim

[@furosukki1301]

Tbqh arcade racers suck nowdays, we need games like burnout and midnight club to make a comeback...

[@novapit935]

Burnout and midnight club still cancelled soz

[@CQ313]

I never understood why people looked down on this game for its physics by comparing it to sim racing titles. It has "arcade" in it, what do they not understand about that?

[@gtrpaceteacher8775]

Ridge racer: am I a joke to you Drift champ: am I a joke to you Literally every sega racing game yes sega rally too.

[@shadowthe852]

F355 Challenge: I'm out

[@gamgo_studio]

Unrealistic probably gives us special racing experience even if we are not professional driver.

[@theraiden9631]

I hate for some retards insult arcade suck, in the end they can't drive arcade or sim

[@Lordmau5]

Hey I know this guy! Thank you for letting me be part of this and lending me your voice! :) Hoping to do more videos in cooperation with you in the future! :D

[@mattgourgoville8088]

Did you dress up CJ as Ricardo Milos?

[@Konata]

Wait a sec. -Another……myself?-

[@CheezeWhizzz]

Dude you sound a lot like ioStux... like you have the same voice. Just a random thing I noticed.

[@huberthigglebottom8460]

7:32 Talks about Initial D *Adds Wangan Midnight “Still Alive” OST*

[@Trance_Kitsune]

I thought the same thing haha

[@FalbereChan]

Thanks to Lordmau5 for the help in the video! ►kzbin.info

[@DanieleMamelicoolestaura516]

Can you write the name of the server you mentioned in the video for assetto corsa tōge battles?

[@photographykid5776]

Do a wangan midnight

[@mrfoodfrostfiend4100]

this brings back memories of playing initial d at my local arcade but sadly they shutdown and there is no arcades here anymore. i loved the depth each game had because it wasn't something you could just pick up with skills from other driving games like battle gear, but there were techniques like "eraser" to learn before getting good at the game in order to reach crazy time attacks.

[@IntellectualHazard]

3:34..N-Nani? IROHAZAKA JUMP?

[@hybridAbsol]

Hows that even possible ?!

[@yvji]

Wangan Midnight track in an Initial D video? 🤔

[@shira_yone]

was about to mention it lul

[@qardes8477]

Both games have a really solid OST, and Still Alive only proves that statement imo.

[@hybridAbsol]

I listened to NFSU soundtracks while playing Maxi Tune

[@scientificallyez6841]

Yes

[@scientificallyez6841]

I was tilted

[@kyufc3s]

I think the Initial D franchise does deserve a sim-like racing arcade game. It doesn't have to be on the level of Battle Gear but it should exemplify a much elements of the Initial D franchise as possible. The whippy, infinite momentum, snap-oversteer physics of arcade stage 4 and onwards detracts what the initial d franchise was trying to promote with its shows and manga (which had great council and supervision of the Keiichi Tsuchiya). I get that it's an arcade game and shouldn't be taken so seriously and all the arcade stages have their place within the arcade racing industry. It just wouldnt hurt for Sega to make a game that is way more closer to sim physics like the game staka117 made on his channel. It's perfect simcade physics that accentuates all the technical/important aspects of initial d.

[@jdmweeb8663]

Initial D having unrealistic physics is what makes it so fun and enjoyable tho

[@Uncle_Glock]

Imho theres no pride in that when the game is so unrealistic

[@PennPal573]

@@Uncle_Glock unrealistic doesn't instantly mean bad

[@kleeb5742]

I've played the real japanese arcades for this at anime cons for years and can confirm that most races are just people bumping into the back of each other until somebody glitches past the other car somehow.

[@JackFoxtrotEDM]

Kleeb VR Pretty much. That’s how I got through my single player Extreme Stage/Arcade Stage 4 and Arcade Stage 8 playthrough.

[@jens8889]

Competitive games will always be unrealistic / semi realistic games. Trackmania counterstrike and more

[@t4kum1zero95]

Well, the psychics in arcade stage 4 was broken But need an in depth history of the game

[@hybridAbsol]

Grease stage or Black Ice

[@Richlovescars]

>when you forget its called arcade

[@kyoshiro2600]

Great video! Please make more like this! and yes, Initial D Arcade History please.

[@XolifreX]

Great video!! I'd love to see an arcade stage history video featuring in-depth views on the physics engine in each game and how it changed and affected the competitive scene! :)

[@Cashaloe]

Man I don't understand how people can NOT like exaggerated physics. Gives a sense of virtual overwhelming excitement, something impossible in real life. Which is the whole point of video games in my opinion. It's an escape.

[@Blossomy77]

Because going at 120mph while being full sideways is enjoyable wacky and fun, arcade games shouldn't be looked down on they are fun games with low entry skill but hard to master the unpredictable physics

[@porotchy]

Initial D : “drift physics” Ridge Racer : get a load of this guy

[@ferrisarrafisilitonga5097]

This is delightfully a great educational video, well done. I'm especially hooked with your explanation on how the physics 'evolved' by each version, so would love a longer video about the history of the series.

[@NightRunner_K5]

Sub'ed from this video, would love to see a whole video on the entire game series!

[@moncimoov]

WRONG, i played initial D since ver 2, every pro racers turn their boost OFF, u only turn on BOOST if ur opponent is a noob (becuause without it, there wont be much of a fight) , when ur a pro players, its rude to turn boost ON.. ur skill is vital without boost, so its more competitive that way

[@FalbereChan]

Boost had changed since then. Most pros after D5 era until today play BOOST ON. While in the Ver.1 to Ver.4 era, in-store is with BOOST OFF, while tournaments with real prize pools are with BOOST ON. Old player here too! Game had been evolving a lot. Nowadays, setting BOOST OFF can be even seen as an insult, akin to ki-charging in Tekken.

[@TheRealEncy]

This is: -5 way to destroy your car in real life -being grounded because went to Arcade and spent mom's money -getting kicked out off Arcade because wouldn't give turn -The only way to make girlfriend hate you -great ways to be hydrated -world most smartest people going out in quaratine playing -playing till close -get banned from the place because making people waste their time and money -come home -come home.... -this is a perfect way for your family to leave you -people call you an Poor INITIAL D ARCADE LEGEND . . . . . . . . . . umm... you waste 5 second of your life

[@djoshawott2850]

I'm glad it's unrealistic, because if it was, I wouldn't have a car to drive by the second section.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

I love realistic games. I love to play GT,Corsa,Project cars and other, but i got to say... i got AT LOT MORE FUN playing games like Initial D, Forza Horizon and other dumb unrealistic games just because that help me to relax and just enjoy driving At the end of the day. A video games purpose is to make you have fun while playing it

[@Makibishi93]

This is actually fascinating. I watched a live stream not too long ago with you doing Drift Spirits. I'm going to try my hand at downloading an Arcade Stage today and see if I can get it working. I've been really wanting to play it at least once in my life and I've just never got around to doing so. Thank you for a very informative video. This was really neat.

[@ThatQaz]

7:30 *WMMT5DX music in an Initial D arcade stage video* Wait, that's illegal

[@kultome]

title pls

[@ThatQaz]

Still Alive

[@davidlatoche8751]

I don't look down on arcade games intentionally its just that most arcade games seem to limit the controls i can work with. some arcade games are really fun but some feel like they are really limiting

[@darkspire91]

The sick Eurobeat in Version 3 is what won me over for the series.

[@SetsunaTheFandom]

I never mind a racing game being arcade, simulation, or perhaps sim-cade. If it's enjoyable, it's enjoyable.

[@jyrichi]

I would LOVE to see a video on the history of this legendary arcade series.

[@tommyshommy]

This is a great video for people who haven't played Arcade Stage! Very nice

[@user-bj6yk2px6g]

8:25 Wangan midnight song on initial d video

[@azarulnazimabdullah22]

Nice video really like the voice over video... Also I would really like IDAS5 with tire indicator and the full map like initial d special stage...

[@the_illuminati_thugga3810]

Awesome video! It would be really cool if you could make a video talking about WMMT, another arcade racer made by NAMCO Bandai

[@mathesb]

I've played Initial D Arcade Stage games a lot and must say my favorite is 8 (Infinity) where i like the physics best. Zero Stage is the actual title in japanese arcades and also fun not only because of anime cutscens in between the story mode races.

[@frankmora3001]

Really nice video i enjoyed alot

[@benteo6565]

really well said. One of the reason that i love initial d is because of its unique physics

[@02lucy666]

thumbs up for some WMMT-ost in the end! man, i never played IDAS or WMMT in an arcade, simply because we dont get them over here in germany :( however, i'd love to!

[@cypherusuh]

lets be honest, what *truly* makes initial D video games feels much better than other sim racer, is how good their Eurobeat tracks is

[@delicioustortilla986]

I would love LordMau5 to do the comentary for videos like this some more

[@makinmoviesandstuff]

Cool video! As an american I'd really like to try this game it seems so fun. If you guys did a history video I'd definitely watch!

[@NoJamMangGame]

Maybe Sega wants the game to be dynamic every new series. Every series had its own taste, but Zero 2nd feel like an experimental version can be referred to as beta release. It is hard to control and looks like aiming for racing simulator but failed. The game become hard to jump behind the wheel for amusement, it is literally way too hard. Even the 4th series got its notorious for being slippery and hard-to-control game but it was fun back then.

[@JackFoxtrotEDM]

노잼망겜 NoJamMangGame I played 4 on the PS3 and the physics feels janky as hell, it’s like they just rotate and are on ice.

[@pocketanime]

that's why it's called 'ARCADE' lmao

[@kewuo]

7:35 thats a wangan midnight maximum tune song, wrong arcade game, but just as good a game

[@Jonathan-uv6pm]

if anyone want to know the song its called " Still alive "- wangan midnight maxium tune 5DX+ tried to find the artist but only found the game it came from

[@ZX3000GT1]

@@Jonathan-uv6pm If it's from WMMT, it's probably Yuzo Koshiro

[@Vert344]

Maaann I miss the Dreamcast and PS2 era of gaming. Where we had a plethora of Arcade games to choose from. :( I love Gran Turismo and a realistic feel as much as the next person but more often I wanna just put a game in and have fun. Doesn't have to be "Sim" all the time. But it seems thats all people want and its stunted the arcade racing world right now. :/

[@CaroFDoom]

I personally think the lack of good arcade racers right now is more down to the developers than the general public. NFS is still a mess, even if it is improving Burnout was killed off to make more NFS games, even though Burnout works better with unlicensed cars The Crew is a joke that's better for taking pictures than it is for racing Dangerous Driving lacks polish, even if that's not the developer's fault Midnight Club is dead and Rockstar would rather get you to buy shark cards in GTA than release a dedicated racing game WMMT/IDAS would never come to console because they rely on the arcade cabinet business model Ridge Racer has been turned into a mobile game The closest thing we have to a good triple a arcade racer is Forza Horizon, which is in that limbo where it's not serious enough for actual racing but it's too serious to be easy for anyone to just pick up and play.

[@imgladnotu9527]

@@CaroFDoom ridge racer 1 & 2 on the psp was the shit. Requirement Of High Velocity: High Temperature is decent. Midnight, burnout, ridge still cancelled soz.

[@minignoux4566]

@@CaroFDoom jokes on you there are three home port of arcade stage

[@CaroFDoom]

@@minignoux4566 yeah and the last one was what, idas4 13 years ago

[@minignoux4566]

@@CaroFDoom another reason to port the new game They made the campaign much better in 14 years

[@Kuikkamies]

Hell yeah I want that six hour in.depth historical on Arcade Stage.

[@maxthibodeau3627]

i want a air combat game where you can pull off the crazy maneuvers you see in movies and stuff

[@kleeb5742]

That konata though. Honestly though assetto corsa has a good modding community and you can basically play a sim version of Initial D on it. All of the touge tracks and everything with the cars too are there. Edit: I just realized that you did feature some of the assetto touge stuff in the video.

[@TheRealMoeru]

Honestly this is such a great video, Perfectly describes why racing games that are not realistic are not automatically bad and why the arcade stage series is so good, why people like it, and why it doesnt have to be realistic.

[@goldenlegend190]

4:07 Nani Prius is in the game?!

[@HyperVanilo]

Well Japanese drift everything, they drift Dodge van and also there's a Tesla drift video

[@Micro13bk]

Well, the new GT 86 came out with Prius tires apparently, so that s a thing...

[@boblikepie]

I miss good arcade racers of the early 2000s feel like they've all just disappeared

[@kiyoshiign8969]

Have they even heard of Wangan midnight maximum tune?

[@yurokun3266]

Great video! Congrats

[@arielmino643]

I would really want to hear that entire arcade stage history

[@ryo38]

Me too

[@MiguelMedV]

Thanks for the video, it was pretty good :D PS: Of course _Initial D Arcade Stages_ are unrealistic, they have the "Arcade" word on it ^^...

[@eduardoggg1179]

No manches en todos lados me encuentro a ti

[@MiguelMedV]

@@eduardoggg1179 Sí, eso pasa :V...

[@bryantmatthews93]

I remember the arcade man you had a full shift clutch man the arcade was cool

[@pathos8307]

Thats more simulation than arcade

[@weareone4931]

I love initial d arcade zero with the latest update and with a force feedback wheel set at 270 it rocks an fills just like the real arcade on my pc

[@quickdraw1216]

Great video 👍🏾, thx 😀

[@TheKrzysiek]

I really enjoy the arcade physics in IDAS, especially PS2 special stage and D5, but I will have to say that there is always room for improvement *cough cough D8 pedal spam* but instead of physics my main issue is that they're just not that good games in general, mainly because of the arcade cab nature. Timers in menus, lots of grind, not many players online, only 3 modes which get very repetitive, huge costs of playing long term etc. I still enjoy them thanks to just how fun it can be once you get good at it, but if rest of the game was closer to older NFS or TXR games, it would've been a lot better. Oh yea great video BTW, make more of these.

[@wintrsxo8646]

the thing thats funny to me in the game is that it does literally 75% of the steering for you lmao

[@adrianayala214]

Yes id like to see more commentary from him, and itd be nice to see a timeline

[@r6player142]

Why is there Wangan Midnight sound track on a Initial D video?

[@firdausali6316]

For my opinion, i love ID arcade stage 5. Its more like initial d feel race style with tyre management and more realistic you take corner at 2nd or 3rd gear

[@bp4dn817]

Yo, it'd be great if you a history on arcade stage, sounds like it'd be a really awesome story.

[@afoxwithahat7846]

Sim Racing vs Initial D. Sim Racing: *Shows Supra* Me: I need no time to think.

[@user-is2mj2ig4v]

InitialD has a topsecret supra

[@afoxwithahat7846]

@@user-is2mj2ig4v Ight Imma Change My Mind

[@halfhawk718]

Supra: *exists* M3 GTR: Allow me to introduce myself.

[@afoxwithahat7846]

@@halfhawk718 :0

Half Hawk they’re both overrated. Also, don’t forget the BNR34 GTR.

[@lancergt1000]

What do you think of the Maximum Tune series? In my country's arcades scene its much more popular than Initial D ever was

[@jokeboxproductions]

I like a history lesson about the Competitive scene

[@radityaindera3442]

Let the specialist do the Sim. Initial D is an arcade and let's keep it at that.

[@NaviciaAbbot]

Sega's bread and butter has always been the art of the drift, at least since Daytona USA. I feel Initial D: Arcade Stage is the successor to Daytona.

[@danieledwards2440]

is it possible to use a drivers license or can i get one made still or is it impossible

[@002javiaka]

Wish They would bring back the physics of initial D stage III arcade

[@a-dog8075]

I liked the Konita (think that show you spell it) from lucky star. One of my favorite animes!

[@joshsuelto]

racing games shouldn't be always realistic because gamers will be bored if a racing game is too realistic

[@Sylveighty]

The way I see it, Arcade racers like IDAS and WMMT shouldn't ever focus on realism, rather they should always just focus on giving you that fullfilling power fantasy of driving as if you were a driver in their respective shows. Being able to take sharp hairpins at crazy speeds in Arcade Stage and using all the gimmicks found in the series like Iroha jumps and the many variations of the gutter technique, and running full throttle through the longest straight, dodging other cars and trucks on your 840HP monster of a car (it's a lifted Hiace) in MaxiTune.

[@BNGamesYT]

Im currently restoring a Initial D Version 3 cab I have at home and have been uploading a blog on my channel going over those details. I would like to know more about the background of version 3 personally.

[@0zone247]

Very detailed and professional review. I hardly ever thought of fun nowadays and focused too much on realism that I don't actually have fun at all. Lost my touch as an adult huh.

[@patrikkozjak-lesicki8669]

where and how and on what system can I get into Initial D games and wich one is recomended to begin? I didnt even know there were online games outside of the arcade?

[@FalbereChan]

we're talking about the arcade release of initial d in this video.

[@patrikkozjak-lesicki8669]

@@FalbereChan i thought so :(

[@imgladnotu9527]

@@patrikkozjak-lesicki8669 look up teknoparrot, It emulates anything up to the intial d equivalent of wmmt5, and helps to have a logitech/thrustmaster setup. Also a beefy pc.

[@patrikkozjak-lesicki8669]

@@imgladnotu9527 thanks mate I guess I gotta look into that

[@_oracle7]

Yesss I really want the fully covered history of initial D Arcade stage so bad. Plsplsplspls

[@fordgalaxie3695]

Same principle can be applied to wmmt. Since you can have brake block battles without spinning out. But man, brake block battles are extremely fun.

[@arbi9506]

Yesyesyesyes YES WE NEED ARCADE STAGE HISTORY.

[@devlintaylor9520]

Does anyone know why passing in inital d is so wonkey?

[@chevyls7189]

Btw if anyone is wondering what song he played At the end it’s still alive

[@Hachiae]

this just makes me want to play TXRD2 again. (no initial D machines anywhere near me. think we just lost the only wangan midnight one around too)

[@LThanhHao232]

i don't know the guy claiming this game was realistic was smoking, but I want some of that stuff

[@robuchiha5933]

What song is playing at 7min 30secs ?

[@poopyhead8358]

Did the idplayers discord get deleted? Maybe they put it in "lock down" killing all invites? But what happened to it it was super useful for help with setting up initial d

[@homurayurisquad1423]

I liked battle gear more for arcade racing. it had a clutch and h shirter, so no matter the physics it wins. play kaido battle/tokyo xtreme racer drift 2 if you want realistic touge with initial d feel. which is also way overdue for a sequel/spiritual successor which may never happen

[@s9771329d]

Ive always seen you at century square's arcade, but everytime as im about to enter, you are already about to leave 😅 we did race each other once months ago, have always wanted to race with you again. Hope to bump into you again.

[@derrick4053]

i would love a history of idas video

[@freestaircaseabortions6233]

I owe initial D arcade stage ver. 2 and 3 for the balls out style I have in gran turismo today... I also understeer alot.

[@Phade101]

Next week on "Falbere!" 'Why Mickey Mouse is nothing like a real mouse'

[@mortifiedalias9548]

I never thought I'd see Counter Strike footage in a Falbere video

[@imgladnotu9527]

Probably his clip too lel. Imma bet my original nfsug, nfsug2, nfsmw saves that the csgo clips were falbere's.