17. Carthage - Empire of the Phoenicians

[@hiddenhorizons68]

These podcasts are like bedtime stories for the history lover in me. Thank you for the enchanting narratives!

[@grahamrigs]

I have been listening to the podcast for many years now, I believe since episode 5, been a patron most of that time. This episode is phenomenal, I've listened to it at least 10 times, and on every single relisten I am teary-eyed through the entire last act. "Imagine every book that has ever been written in your native language destroyed, and your people enslaved and scattered about the face of the earth" hit's hard. Well done, Paul.

[@rembson]

Never move away from these "too" long formats. It is pure gold to get to have presentations of these ancient civs where one lets the subject matter dictate how much to cover and how long a time is given to it. Very much appreciated.

[@CtrlAltDlt68]

The ideal length of a history podcast is "Dan Carlin" length, meaning there isn't a max length where you should cap it.

[@patrickirwin3662]

ditto

[@Witnessdomaining]

The best medicine against my tinnitus!

[@shulamitebeautifulbride]

❤

[@deanchambers8613]

This format is like half podcast series & half sound movie! & of course once the video comes out it will be even better.

[@brianfitch5469]

Who else woke up fo this playing.

[@joshuawolk4532]

100%

[@callumcox705]

Every night lol

[@brianfitch5469]

Seems like a lot of his videos pop up at night. KZbin trying to put things in your dreams lol.

[@WHenderson21]

I did, now I can’t turn it off

[@samariathornton9110]

@@joshuawolk4532

[@phoebehill953]

Some of the happiest evenings of my life have been spent falling asleep to this podcast.

[@richerich9238]

My

[@tom-dev]

You must lead a miserable life

[@AbominableBigfoot]

Everybody shut up Fall of Civilizations dropped a new video

[@eugene7145]

NOPE, UD REHEEEEEEEYAAAAAAAAAHA

[@vikingdesigner1471]

yes

[@GlurglePop]

No YOU shut up! I can’t hear!

[@chriskane8808]

Here, here! Waiting for video!

[@Envoy_Intuition]

Shutting up

[@kkdesignservices183]

The musical theme just gets you in the pit of your stomach. It's difficult to describe, but captures a sense of dread, of lost time, of inevitability.

[@jr8260]

If you're referring to the opening piano theme after the intro, then I totally agree. It's pretty simplistic but it captures the emotions of what you described so well.

[@kkdesignservices183]

@@jr8260 Yes, the piano piece of chords.

[@paulm749]

- and of deep sadness.

[@karakerley4230]

I think I like the way it climbs and peaks, like a civilization I suppose, but you know that first heavy note is coming back. It really does set the whole tone of the program. Somehow the intro was a serious hook for me when I first started listening. The way the narrator starts from an outside perspective before the theme and intro begin. This series is a masterpiece for sure.

[@pectenmaximus231]

I am glad you said this. I’m glad other people feel this way too. In my experience, it’s among the most fitting pieces of music ever meant to create atmosphere. I could try to fit words to the emotions it conjures for some time, but I think it suffices to say I find those few bars of piano playing in the corners of my mind regularly.

[@hannahbrown2728]

Im a simple girl, when I see a Fall of Civilizations video, I drop everything and watch it in one sitting. Looking forward to the next release with added visual context!

[@Onomatopoeia4u]

Absolutely. I love listening then listening while falling asleep, then later watching with visuals. Just like with philosophy videos, I always gain something new from it ❤

[@pawsac2759]

So very original

[@hannahbrown2728]

@@pawsac2759 Judging by your other comments on this channel, you lead a very sad life.

[@alicevonkannon1033]

i'm recovering from surgery, bored to tears, until I discovered this show. Incredible. Is there anything better than an historian who's also a poet?

[@river20222]

Best historian teller of our lifetime, hands down. Someone give this man a movie deal.

[@tracymcgeachie7525]

Totally agree 👍🏻

[@twobucca]

If that happens, he'll stop making vids for us.

[@ethanjp7030]

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[@Mulavi]

I listen and fall asleep. Start again where I dozed off before but fall sleep again and so on. It may take me weeks to finish a three-hour long episode. I'm not complaining. I like it. Can't beat the combination of content, length and voice. Thanks again. Great job!

[@Eamonshort1]

Man your stuff always staggers me. My University thesis took months of research and writing to put together and was like 25 minutes. How you make these hours long, engaging podcasts is an absolute testament to your passion for history

[@CocoTheDiamond]

i'm beyond impressed with the research that's gone into this. probably more than i did for my masters degree. and that took me a year to accomplish. his work is insanely on a high academic level but presented so anyone could learn from it!

[@simpleman7516]

Chatgpt dude

[@Sean12248]

@@simpleman7516 rofl.

[@Ronnet]

​@@simpleman7516 "write me a 3,5 hour historically accurate epic on the rise and fall of Carthage. Oh and give it an eerie and foreboding vibe." If only Hollywood knew this secret.

[@brucehilton1662]

It has been stated that if Carthage had defeated Rome, the consequences for western civilization would have been catastrophic. I certainly am not so sure about that counterfactual thinking. Interesting to think about though.

[@seancalder8858]

Mate I am absolutely thrilled to find this new episode in an absolutely marvellous series. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've enjoyed your programs and podcasts listening over and over again. To me, you are the "Attenborough" of ancient history and you have taught me so much about ancient cultures from around the world. Thank you.

[@TheDeliciousLegacy]

He is such a beautiful storyteller of history! I absolutely love these podcasts more than anything ever!

[@keithtarrier4558]

Me too... over and over again I listen. I can't recall every single detail after one, or even a few listens. The more I listen, the more I am amazed at just how 'wonderful' and amazing humans were and have been, despite their "fall".

[@skykennedy3574]

Sean, you took the words from my mouth. Bravo Paul Cooper! This series is one of stunning quality and remarkable production value. I'm going to pay my respect literally, by contributing.

[@nonamehere-y2t]

A long time ago I started watching these..I thought you stopped..Glad this one is here. Thank you.

[@assyledhifi]

Awesome. Amazing. Stunning. There's no words to describe how much i enjoyed hearing this masterpiece... I am tunisian living in Tunis, hearing it during my commute to work on the same places some of the events were happening, looking at the hills of carthage in front of my eyes. A thousand thanks, and it's not sufficient...

[@FallofCivilizations]

Thanks Assyl, that means a lot to hear you say.

[@futuf2265]

That's so cool! Is the city taking care of its ancient ruins?

[@dewrt2874]

​@@futuf2265 Yes

[@dewrt2874]

​@@FallofCivilizationsFun fact: Gustav Flaubert built his House on the Ancient ruines of the carthagnian harbor in Tunis

[@bigsmookgrovestreet2703]

First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

[@tyjandrews]

Legit got goosebumps seeing this! I'm excited you picked Phoenicians because I have some proud friends from modern Lebanon 🇱🇧 It's difficult to describe how much this millennia-old history still affects current, global affairs.

[@MiguelFlores-pg8fi]

Felt the same goosebumps when i saw this

[@90skidcultist]

Are they "proud" of accidental birth, other man's work, or their own hard-worked grandeur?

[@benyahudadavidl]

Perhaps some of us are unaware that so-called non-black people have no history. I can assure you that as historian who has studied history from primary sources available to serious academics that Black people are the only people who have a history. What has been hidden from view by white supremacists and their cousins is the fact that nonBlack people have stolen everything they have from a particular group of Black people. We can see this being played out even today. nonBlack people steal from Israelites and claim we have no culture. See Anacalypsis by G Higgins.👊🏿🕎⚔️🏹🌽🪶

[@thomashauer6804]

did they go sacriice on kids or not..

[@bigsmookgrovestreet2703]

First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon. Some history is false and distorted, and history is very deep. First, where is Carthage located? It is located in Tunisia, and that Hannibal was born in Carthage and fought in the name of Carthage, not Phoenician, and had nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal the ruler of Lebanon until he was a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, they were local citizens because they were in their original homeland. Was Hannibal the ruler of Carthage, and where was Carthage in Lebanon, for example? No, in Tunisia and Carthage, it is Tunisia, and Alissa did not found Carthage. It is just a legend, and the evidence is because researchers did not find it or its inscriptions. It has a Phoenician influence because they occupied it only, and the occupation of what age has become history. In the end, Carthage has nothing to do with the Phoenicians, and that the Romans and the Greeks created myths to discredit the Empire of Carthage because it had enmity with them, and that Herodotus, the Greek historian, never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he never mentioned that the Phoenicians They settled in Carthage, and the researchers also did not find Phoenician traces and genes. They found Roman traces, but Phoenician ones they did not find, which means that they do not exist.

[@loveli420]

I'M SO HAPPY WE HAVE A NEW EPISODE 🎉🎉🎉 hahaha. My day is officially made! Can't wait to give this a listen Paul!

[@stephenbecker5936]

I'm having a stressful day at work and this just made everything better. Thank you for your incredible work.

[@FallofCivilizations]

Thanks Stephen, hope it gets better!

[@SofaKingShit]

Perhaps it will be better when our civilization falls and we get to chill out and hunt and gather. Only half joking.

[@veronikalynn5084]

@@SofaKingShit ha thank you for the laugh, I half agree!

[@gyllenspetzfamily7993]

​​@@SofaKingShit if our civ falls say hello to cholera, bubonic plague, a short life and say goodbye to supermarkets, new ready made clothes, having a full belly in spring and living with out walls. We must not allow this, we must love our neighbors.

[@CtrlAltDlt68]

"I'm stressed out...what's this? A long podcast about genocide? This should be relaxing." It's alright man I feel you haha.

[@jacobfitz6872]

I love these videos, sometimes i wake up to them playing and i stay awake just listening

[@albertopeixoto]

Just discovered this channel a few days ago and wanted to give you a huge thank you. ❤

[@eddaniels4731]

I was literally just thinking "shouldn't be too long before a new fall of civs", and as if by magic here's a new episode, very much looking forward to giving it a listen

[@jojojacques810]

Wooohooooo!!! Ahhhhh!!!! ❤

[@kyleadelaide]

I was thinking that a few days ago

[@theduckcompany]

Honestly they could have milked this story for 2 episodes the Phoenicians and then the Carthaginians.

[@lucasjames7524]

Absolutely wonderful channel! I can't even articulate how amazing this channel is, and how much joy it has brought me. A thousand thanks and best wishes!

[@rjlchristie]

He has superb narration skills, right up there with Attenborough.

[@whyjnot420]

@@rjlchristie It is a shame that the full video versions of his podcasts aren't at the same level as the narration. They would be utterly magnificent if they were. (and don't get me wrong, I like them, they just have so much more potential)

[@alexanderjohnphilly]

You said everything I’m feeling

[@AnuragKumar-ik1kc]

​@@whyjnot420 man makes 3 hour long videos. The Aztec one is 5 hours. Let the man cook.

[@MrRussiancoma]

​@@rjlchristie that is a high bar indeed!

[@micomata]

The Punic Genocide -- perpetrated by the ancient Romans -- has always haunted me. Thank you for dignifying this noble people by telling us about their great civilisation, as well as their words and deeds (even their bloodiest ones). I think it's such a tragedy that most Carthaginian literature was consigned to the flames. Paul, your unique gift for storytelling and your empathy for your fellow humans remains unsurpassed.

[@jedminor6128]

Hey man you can't just waltz up and down Italy winning battles and expect to live if you let rome continue to exist

[@martijn9568]

​@@jedminor6128 Even sacking Rome isn't enough for that. Just ask the continental Celts.

[@massin1991]

The part about child sacrifices is haunting as well

[@I_Art_Laughing]

The genocide of infants earned them a spot in history's dustbin.

[@clmk28]

I can only imagine the loss of such valuable knowledge about their history and the early history of the world. What an immense loss

[@ChristopherBowly]

History brought to life with wonderful descriptions & detail. An absolute feast. Many thanks for another outstanding episode.

[@TheVicenteSilva]

I just listened to the entire thing on Spotify. Probably my favorite episode ever! The way you structured this hours long epic was tremendous. Amazing work

[@FallofCivilizations]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jamesnicolle237]

Terry Pratchett audiobook

[@zackk6819]

Every time I see a new video on this channel I get a feeling only comparable to how i felt as a child when I learned about something new and exciting. Pure joy and fascination. Thank you and all involved for these top notch audio experiences.

[@marksaunders1469]

Like everyone else it seems, I am absolutely thrilled to see another episode! Love the style, the detail and the consistency of excellence across this series. Very much looking forward to hearing this one in full, thank you Paul, simply wonderful stuff :) PS Great to see so many fellow fans too!

[@FallofCivilizations]

Thanks Mark, very kind of you!

[@TheDeliciousLegacy]

So so so good!

[@tin-n-tan]

How good is how it starts. In the year...and YES!

[@Xune2000]

I'm not sure when this is going to end, there's only so many fallen civilisations we know of after all, but I hope it's not any time soon.

[@tommydaniels1805]

@@Xune2000 every new episode I feel one step closer to the last known civilization for FOC to cover. This is a timeless series that is so dense with interesting well articulated information.

[@MrMrUSMC]

I really love that detail about a macaque skull being found in Ireland. It's very easy to imagine the people of the ancient world as being cloistered and shut off compared to our own modern interconnectedness, but there was always stuff like this happening. Somewhere, twenty five hundred years ago, an Irish guy came home from a trip to the market with a monkey in tow and probably the biggest smile on his face.

[@jamiemcintosh3030]

And the people in his village staring and crowding round, asking "What's that?"

[@loslobos786]

People always traveled unfortunately they didn't have Facebook to brag about their travels and thousands of years of times depredation is hell on papyrus.

[@jimmyjasi-]

Kato was probably lying about supposed boom of Carthage just as Hernán Cortez lied about the size of half starved Tlaxcalan Republic in comparing it to Granada. There could indeed have been a demographic boom in Carthage in her last decades as she had to accommodate both back settlers from lost colonies and as sociology in all ages shows low quality of living causes people to have more children unless there's starvation beyond measure underway. We don't know the costs by which Carthaginians payed Romans reparations... maybe through debt to Tyre and Sidon? Or maybe by melting some gold from their temples?

[@jimmyjasi-]

,💓Well yeah. I agree. Both David Reich and more recently Carlos Lalueza-Fox have written wonderful popsci books on how globalization has always been a part of human story

[@ian_b]

"Some guy tried to sell me some magic beans, but I got this monkey instead. Result!"

[@azorazan]

It takes a bit, but every time an episode drops, you just know your gonna be in for the absolute pinacle of quality in podcasting, in which no effort was spared at all, making ancient historical storytelling come allive in the finest detail

[@intuit13]

As much as I absolutely love either format, I've been horrendously spoiled by the FoC TV episodes on here, as they were the first contact I had with the podcast at all. Each time a new 'video' (like this) comes out, it's bittersweet as the TV episodes were absolutely the best documentaries I've ever seen, anywhere. I would have thought the funding would have gone through the roof, with a never-ending stream of resources given to keep them coming. :/ Too bad I'm not a billionaire.

[@LordVader1094]

@@intuit13 I'm trying to figure out what's wrong? Each video gets a TV episode anyway.

[@intuit13]

@@LordVader1094 oh, so this one will get a TV episode as well? How long do they usually take to release? edit: And, yea, I didn't notice that til now... When I first found the channel I watched all of them back to back. Then I noticed new podcasts that didn't have a TV episode so I thought maybe the TV/docs weren't going to continue (or at least not every episode of the podcast would get one). I see now that those 2-3 episodes now DO have TV episodes. :)

[@blakeskidmore523]

@@intuit13 Usually a month or two after the audio drops.

[@Oll826]

What love to see a video on how he makes the videos Tbf

[@kingietk]

This is the best history channel on KZbin

[@TheVaughan5]

Fantastic! I’ve long been fascinated by ancient Carthage and now we have one of the best history sites on Y,T. covering this subject. Can’t thank you enough.

[@alfieroanania3797]

Time for another journey into ancient landscapes and peoples. KZbin is lucky to have this caliber of content on it’s forum.

[@robertshaw5599]

Paul Cooper for 218 minutes of audio and visual u give us a book of 1,000 pages to read. Well done in compressing time and saving us so much of it, Sir.

[@chuckmiskel6553]

You are a great story teller. I could see sitting at a campfire listening to you in the olden times. Thanks for your hard work

[@bthorson7979]

Awesome as always

[@giespouwen8091]

I love how its easy to create a mental image of the empire because your description in this podcast is so detailed

[@leidenswerkzeug]

In case you ever run out of ideas 😉 The Seleucid Empire, Burgundy and the Qara Khitai Dynasty would also fit into the theme of your podcast.

[@Etaoinshrdlu69]

Bactera

[@manupontheprecipice6254]

The Abbasid Caliphate, The Tokugawa Shogunate, The Holy Roman Empire, The Mongol Empire.

[@animula6908]

Sometimes I sit and wonder what we are all going to do if he finally runs out of fallen civilizations. Then I look around and remember there’s one born every day.

[@KieranTaylor86]

His greatest story is still unfinished, Sumer, Assyria & Babylon, that Civilisation needs an ending

[@MarvinT0606]

The Celts deserve their own episode, since they've been mentioned many times in this series

[@sarthurl9001]

For someone who had listened to EVERY audiobook on Carthage, or even remotely associated with Carthage I must say that what you have produced here is masterful. Thank you very much.

[@ColdHawk]

For most of the world the history of Carthage is of passing interest only. What fuels your interest?

[@TheLunargypsy]

I'm utterly distracted in life now by the need to learn more about the dyes and music. 😅 I've listened to this particular podcast almost everyday this week

[@2Phast4Rocket]

I read about the tragic ending of Carthage but I have not heard the full history of this great civilization before. Thank you for your very educational podcast.

[@MarvinT0606]

Pinch me I must be dreaming. Thank you for this, the Phoenicians are the missing-link in the other civilizations you've covered. They suffered one of the saddest endings of any civilization, despite the fact that their neighbors and enemies owed much to them.

[@Grenadier311]

If they indeed sacrificed children, their fate was well-deserved.

[@joshthalheimer]

@@Grenadier311 well, after all, victor writes the story... and Rome certainly has her 'sacrificed children' moments - in fact, ANY civilization involving 'humanity' has a multitude.

[@Grenadier311]

@@nick7832 That's why I said "if".

[@Grenadier311]

@@joshthalheimer Yeah, they prided themselves on not practicing human sacrifice when at the end of a Triumph noble captives of a conquered region were ritually strangled in the Temple of Jupiter. Some say that human nature doesn't change, but I think we've evolved quite a bit into a kinder society than what our ancestors knew, at least in our largesse and luxury.

[@Grenadier311]

@@joshthalheimer But you're right ... many Iraqi children were "sacrificed" to keep the sanctions going, for exemple.

[@AlinJ.]

This channel is one of the best things that has happened to KZbin. Thank you for another amazing episode.

[@Tgr2k1]

Always a delight to see this channel pop up in my subscription feed. The passion and care put into these podcasts is second to none. Thank you!

[@mundoohuigin981]

Am I the only one that wakes up to this every time they fall asleep? Why does KZbin want me to know about Carthage so bad?

[@sasarikaya7610]

Same

[@redfraggle77]

Me! This morning! I think it sent me to sleep!

[@ColdHawk]

I think KZbin’s algorithm has figured out that they can get in several full length, un-skipped advertisements ($$!) if they play you a soothing very long format video that you are unlikely to switch off if you should awake.

[@JamesMcCallum-oo1xn]

Audible is increased 27%. Intelligent individuals are Lonely due to the 2020 pharma / government obvious theatre . We live alone & isolated mistrusting society. Netflix is a poor partner. I use story telling as comforting to go to sleep to & lie in the dark listening. I just spent 2 weeks deciphering McCarthy Blood Meridian. These stories keep me strong & help me find calm . The curse of the sceptical intellectual freewheeling living in a declining culture lost in cognitive decline

[@TommyLomeo-k5d]

Real

[@CocoTheDiamond]

the ancients certainly were not primitive. i'm learning so much from this podcast. as an academic i can really appreciate the research you've done! it's extensive!!! and to put it together as you have is as much work as one would do for a masters degree. you deserve multiple degrees! i'm especially happy to learn all of this holistically and with such a tight focus on origins and daily life, social structure, political life, exploration.... it's all so fascinating. i'm devouring the information! thank you a million times over for your research and presentation of the information. it's delicious and beautiful history!

[@mrsnulch]

Ooh, you are covering one of my favorite civilizations of history - my heart skipped a beat when I saw this. I can't wait to watch!

[@bigsmookgrovestreet2703]

First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

[@Wonderboywonderings]

Carthage has been my request since the beginning of this podcast series! Can't wait to listen! Thanks.

[@FallofCivilizations]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@natec7815]

The last few minutes had me in tears. Absolutely beautiful I never knew the gritty details of the Carthage's fall.

[@futuf2265]

I also cried with Carthage's fate! At least, a similar fate had Rome some hundreds of years later

[@alekisighl7599]

​@@futuf2265 Romes fate was not similar to Carthages at all. And Rome lasted another 1500 years not a couple hundred

[@futuf2265]

@@alekisighl7599 Rome, the city, had a similar fate as Carthage, just not as worse because it wasn't completely destroyed

[@theflyindutchman771]

I just found this podcast yesterday. This felt like a journey through time and i was there to witness it all. Can't help it but i truly feel a bit sad. What an amazing city it must have been and to be so completely destroyed. Thank u for making this podcast. I would love to see one about Parthia btw..

[@cephalophore2631]

My favorite segments of these podcasts are the accompanying excerpts, songs, or poems, etc. at the closing. "Imagine..." I felt that this one was emotionally intense because many people interested in history or modern politics even are often keenly aware of the concept of 'identicide'... when we imagine our ancestors or anyone for that matter facing the infringement of their heritage or outright annihilation we can really feel the doom they must've felt. Whether it's the: Carthaginians trapped for three years in their city The Poles during the partitioning, world war 2, or Soviet occupation The Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, etc. during the Turkish genocides. The Persians crushed by the Macedonian, Arab, Turkic, or Mongolian Empire. Native Americans experiencing the conditions of Manifest Destiny. Yazidis, Kurds, Uighurs... even the Basques, Bretons pressured to learn only Spanish/French. Whether it's the Nazis renaming a city to a German name, the Russians or Ukrainians changing toponyms to cities, or the Palestinians who lose their villages.. everyone struggles in this clash of identities. But when we think of how it was for Carthage and how it was presented in this podcast - I almost feel despair.

[@dur7021]

This is a triumph. Absolutely stunning historiography and storytelling. I thought I knew the story of Carthage but I had never weeped at her story before this telling. Bravo

[@atomicclockagency]

This was maybe the best FoC episode yet. The long and detailed description of Carthage's rise and fall, knowing what fate would befall the city was absolutely magnificent storytelling. The sense of hopelessness and despair at the end of the 3rd Punic war was made so real and one can only imagine how "accepting" those final terms must have felt. The coin without a value analogy will stay with me for a long time. Bravo Paul

[@FallofCivilizations]

Thanks Sam, very kind of you!

[@bigsmookgrovestreet2703]

First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

[@runkeral901]

Since I've discovered your channel, I just love going to bed at night and falling asleep to your videos, allowing my minds eyes to carry me around the world in times long gone. And the only flaw is it takes so long for a new video, even though I realise it can't be helped in order to be quality made. Awesome job, Paul❤and I have some suggestions for future videos. Egypt, the Elamite kingdom, Third Bulgarian kingdom, the Indus Valley civilization,the Naska culture, with the petroglyphs. The Dahomei kingdom in Africa. The ancient Korean kingdom Silla or others from the region. ❤

[@RainbowYak]

This is one of my favorite channels on KZbin. Every episode is amazing. I'm blind but contrary to other channels, that's actually not a problem here. I don't really need the pictures because the detailed narration and sound effects allow me to create my own, vivid images in my head. I also really like Paul's voice; the tonality and manner of speaking are strikingly similar to those of Simon Schama in the BBC series "A History of Britain" (which I also really love).

[@FallofCivilizations]

Really glad you enjoy it. I will always make sure that the show is primarily audio and enjoyable by everyone.

[@ColdHawk]

I wish I could ask about the nature of the blindness you are describing, and would love to know what the visualizations are like. The idea of making images from the cues in the background sounds by someone with significant visual impairment is fascinating to me after decades of studying the brain and the mind. The topic first interested me in my 20’s when I taught classes for MCAT preparation. I had a student who was completely blind from birth and consistently used metaphorical spatial relationships in relating abstract concepts and would occasionally use phrases such as “looks like,” or “appears to be.” He had an ability to take my visually based descriptions of movement and turn them into gestures. In an effort to better understand, I began reading and discovered a body of neuroimaging research demonstrating the assignment of areas of visual cortex for three dimensional representations in people without sight. Around the same time, I dated a woman with advanced Retinitis Pigmentosa was repeatedly surprised listening to her (shockingly accurate) descriptions of things at a distance that I knew she could not have seen. In any regard, as a fellow fan, I am happy to hear that you also find such enjoyment in these podcasts because of their format.

[@erichighsmith7299]

Perfect for my long haul drive I have tomorrow as a truck driver. Saving this to listen to tomorrow like I just said. Love the series and the amount of work it takes to put out these high quality long version series. 👏 👏 👏

[@jilijeg]

I personally think this is the best channel on you tube. The level of storytelling is so great, it feels like reading a book. Plus is a constant reminder that humanity only changed tools not overall behaviour during history.

[@perrywidhalm114]

I deeply appreciate all the work and effort you bring to these podcasts. Generally, these videos are quite well presented and historically accurate. The narrator's voice is first rate. Thank you!

[@grump9001]

There are very few youtube channels that make me as excited to see a new video than this one. You are brilliant and these have seriously been like therapy for me. Listening while I draw, and feeling like I really learned something. Thank you for your work!

[@sthungtichang]

Ur way of narration n the name fall of civilization gives something nostalgic abt how the world evolved till this day. One heart for this❤.

[@patrickmoriarty7273]

Always the best production on KZbin ~ thanks

[@Envoy_Intuition]

I celebrate Fall of Civilization video drops more than any holiday 🎉 thanks Paul and the FoC team 💕

[@khavafis]

I can hardly exagerate how superbly crafted this material has been put together. I subscribed at once. Because I work an independent trade, I can listen at will with my earpods while working even though I have to cut the video in three or four slices. Absolutely gripping story. Thank you.

[@FallofCivilizations]

Thanks for listening Carlos!

[@Aktentasche1]

Your stuff is the absolute best when it comes to historical podcasts. Thank you so much!

[@wiskasIO]

Staying alive all this time was worth it, thank you FOC Podcast!! 🙏🏼

[@Saberlena]

Positively one of the finest historical channels on KZbin.

[@danfromtheburgh]

Just did about 6 hours of revisiting older episodes and casually listening to your voice and learning about major events in history. Such a delight to see a fresh episode, especially considering the length and quality. Thanks mate, here take this imaginary donation funded by my imaginary well paying job

[@jamieclarke321]

My phone insists I watch this in my sleep

[@lantinkan9013]

My phone feels exactly the same

[@santinomontanez3278]

Mine too!

[@JaimeLynBarbarian]

ha, same over here

[@1958pobs]

Mine too 😮

[@rltw659]

Exactly! I always end up here and I can’t figure out why.

[@Pan472]

Even though it's an episode about the great Phoenicians, it's more than honouring for my nation, the Greeks, to be mentioned so much in this episode... Congratulations Mr Cooper, watched the whole podcast, and I'm anticipating the documentary version soon!

[@nyctosoutheastasia7175]

Best way I sleep nights is when I listen to Fall Of Civilization podcast. Seen everyone of them awake also. Great bedtime stories. Calming relaxing. Thanks for your hard work making these videos for us. Much appreciated 🙏

[@nar0nx]

Every single episode of this channel is a reason to rejoice. Thank you!

[@Piffle88]

Strong work as always, Cooper & Co. I'm looking forward to the video version. Thanks!

[@bogdanvijan1]

Great work Mr. Cooper, Fall of Civilizations Podcast is the best youtube channel of history. Although English is not my native language, by the way Mr. Cooper narrates, I absolutely understand everything. I always look forward to a new episode. Bogdan - Romania

[@knusperli]

came here because of the epic response on $8chan. Subbed and looking forward to listening to the podcast on my walks.

[@sigmasquared8209]

3:33:50 - I appreciate these videos a lot for the historical context but thank you for also reintroducing me to Ms. Landon

[@ShyFly1000]

Why isn’t there an ultra like button?! Because like doesn’t even begin to explain or encompass how I feel about this podcast! The Phoenicians were brilliant.

[@giash1]

I was there at the ruins before the pandemic, didn't know anything about them and how great their empire was and finally their sad demise. Thank you for your great work.

[@simplybtw]

i really just use these videos to sleep the voice acting is very soothing

[@russelljackson2818]

Wow... just, wow. Another incredible epic. I stayed up far too late but I couldn't stop listening. Your work is only getting better, Paul & Co.!

[@ChineseKiwi]

1 million views and it isn't even the video!!! MORE THAN DESERVED PAUL!!

[@spitgiezer]

These pods are better than anything on the history channel

[@andiiam8145]

The story of Carthage is truly one of the most heartbreaking tales of all history.

[@diatonicdelirium1743]

I'd say that they were rather despicable actually, slightly worse than the Romans that replaced them. All of the 'great civilizations' were build on the backs of slaves and immeasurable crimes, maybe with the exception of the Nabataeans. I know: different times, different mores, but that doesn't change the facts as we know them.

[@cacogenicist]

@@diatonicdelirium1743 - The total destruction of the libraries, though ... ugh.

[@diatonicdelirium1743]

@@cacogenicist The loss of knowledge and literature is painful indeed.

[@jameskazd9951]

@@cacogenicist yeah, just as sad as the Library of Alexandria IMO.

[@cacogenicist]

@@diatonicdelirium1743 - A cultural salting of the Earth, so to speak. That was a brutally thorough genocide.

[@Tipu1799]

Wait of almost six months ended today....I just downloaded 2 of your episodes today while waiting for the new release....It would be yet another great episode especially when visuals would be added later

[@Claxiux]

As an Iranian, I love our Lebanese brothers. Can't wait to watch/hear the entire episode!!!

[@jennydanza3974]

Excuse me but iranian and Lebanese are same family.

[@bigsmookgrovestreet2703]

First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

[@EinFelsbrocken]

@@jennydanza3974 He said brothers? Lol

[@Thestaalos]

Everytime i have to take a long car trip, i check your channel beforehand. Seeing a 3h+ video is like christmas, but for adults. You have the best channel on youtube, noone can compete

[@Betterlaylow1]

without a doubt my favorite youtube channel

[@ChineseKiwi]

Before Paul's ancestors were coopers, they were the oral storytellers of the tribe as this talent has to be genetic! Another masterpiece and I can't wait for the 4k visuals! Amazing storytelling, while giving when needed, proper context to explain things in an easy-to-digest manner, that helps me learn about these civilisations while your calm voice while you tell that story means it actually helps me fall asleep when I need to! I don't usually donate but it's the least I could do for this quality of storytelling and knowledge!

[@FallofCivilizations]

Thanks my friend, very kind of you.

[@JSoftic]

Masterpiece after masterpiece. Cant thank you enough for all the work you do. This is just so well done, as everything else you put out. Nothing but the best for you and rest of the team.

[@bigsmookgrovestreet2703]

First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

[@jamesf3871]

Thank you for your hard work in preparing these presentations. They are very enjoyable and I always appreciate them. CARTHAGO DELENDA EST.

[@Deridus]

Cetera censeo, Terra delendam esse...

[@jiriblaha873]

What more can a tear on my cheek say than.. thank you!

[@skyfever111]

a new upload !!!! TODAY IS A GOOD DAY! i will play phoenicians in civ 6 and listen to this

[@joaoabegao2888]

The poem at the end... Got me in tears... Beautiful episode. Thank you Paul, and to everyone else involved.

[@mikoshino]

Ok i‘m SO ready for this. Waited ages. I‘m not even exaggerating if i say that literally anything Paul puts his hands on becomes amazing. Thank you SO much for this. Will watch in the evening!

[@t512100]

Amazing work Paul! Been looking forward to your videos! Thanks for the enlightening videos you produce!

[@texajp1946]

I love this channel, can’t wait to see the video to this

[@Weeblesroadtrip]

You cannot understand the complete JOY felt when I see you have posted a new podcast/video. Thank you for every single one.

[@ros1424]

Made my day, so looking forward to these. Love the culture and poetry he finds and uses. Truly worth waiting for. It's a lovely treat in these days 🤗

[@CallmeKenneth-tb1zb]

There are not words to describe just how much I enjoyed this episode. I had no idea how brutal and bloody the 3rd Punic war was.

[@bigsmookgrovestreet2703]

First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

[@Rayrard]

The best ancient civilization podcast on KZbin... the time goes by so fast and you tell the story so well. Can't wait for the illustrated version that is always a work of art

[@El_Castor_Bravo]

It's like Christmas in Spring! Best gift ever right now. Love this Middle Eastern series Carthage , Assyria, and Summeria. I have fantastic dreams from listening to these to sleep to. Thank you Fall of Civilizations!

[@charleshuguley9323]

The storytelling in these episodes is magnificent. It never becomes bogged down in unnecessary detail and maintains interest from beginning to end. The beautiful, almost poetic prose of the narration is delivered in a solemn, melancholy voice which is so appropriate to the theme. And the musical motif, as others have said, is simple but hauntingly beautiful. Sad and filled with longing, it sets the mood perfectly.

[@FallofCivilizations]

Thanks Charles, very kind of you

[@charleshuguley9323]

@@FallofCivilizations Thank-you for the series. I have enjoyed it immensely. Also really liked the novel of yours that I read, the one with the simultaneous modern and ancient story-lines. That encouraged me to start work on some historical fiction of my own.