Fallout 2 - How Myron "Invented" Jet

One of my favorite conversations in Fallout history. How Myron "invented" jet. From Fallout 2.

[@DaveOshry]

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[@claytonbigsby3496]

Fallout 76 bro.

[@SonofKiernan]

Hey mate, I have a pretty sick game I've been developing in GameMaker for a few years, but I have NO idea how to do the sales side, getting it onto Steam etcetera. Is there any kind of guide out there for small studios looking for how to turn their game into a publicly sold title? Thanks and sorry for the complete noob question

[@DaveOshry]

Yah I figured as much

[@tropingreenhorn]

ride the train baby, ride it

[@kenkune55]

KZbin reccomendations work in mysterious ways

[@TheLastBabyMan]

Nobody remembered him, not even Bethesda.

[@RevlistheReviler]

kek

[@ncrveteranranger3502]

Your everywhere

[@JoePomerlo]

not even obsidian

[@thunderplunder1013]

Lololoo

[@jhj22]

Double KEK!

[@daimyo3074]

Man reviewbrah really let himself go

[@LolMan4409]

Kek

[@buddyguy4723]

he would not like this

[@noahfessenden6478]

His disappointment was immeasurable and his day was ruined. This was only natural.

[@GooberDunk]

this is Running on Empty, Chem Review!

[@captainbongwater7790]

This is _running on empty_ *...Food Review!*

[@XellDincht]

"Myren died less than a year after the defeat of the Enclave, stabbed by a Jet addict while drinking in the Den" and nothing of value was lost that day

[@Emyureta]

Xell1987 Nobody: Diavolo:

[@whyamihere5732]

@@Emyureta glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking of this

[@jakali7274]

Imagine if jet was cute for cancer, all father had to take a hit of jet lol

[@bacon5126]

Pimp Stick it wasn’t cancer cus I’m sure the institute would make it in 2 seconds.

[@RDAScout]

Except the enclave

[@FanboyKisser]

10+ years later, Bethesda thought it was a cool idea to break lore and assume Jet was a Pre-war drug because they're big fans of the og games.

[@em.1633]

No they didn't. Jet is still brahmin shit, it's alluded to multiple times and even in crafting the ingredient for jet is just "fertilizer". Aka crap. Finding jet in pre-war facilities is just because Bethesda was ultra lazy with their loot tables and item placement. Same reason you'll find radroach meat.

[@cailyngovender8539]

Junk Mail With high enough intelligence you can call bullshit (No pun intended ) on Myron being the inventor of Jet. He just rediscovered a pre-existing drug.

[@lopiklop]

@@bulutuss If you think about it, Myron seems way more like a 'money-man' than a 'science-guy'.

[@lopiklop]

@@Toast_T1312 That page doesn't show that though

[@Toast_T1312]

@@lopiklop looks like the section was edited, unfortunately. In the end it's a video game, and trying to pick holes in small details in the story instead of the player using their imagination a little bit more just seems silly.

[@papadoc711]

its crazy to think the guy that does his voice is the same guy who does boone...

[@Chris-ph9mf]

papadoc711 steroid

[@Chris-ph9mf]

Serious

[@sethstorm1197]

Yeah. He also voiced Horus in Fallout Tatics.

[@Dragoncurse4]

He also voices Max from Goof Troop. And Max is all I can picture right now when Myron talks. xD

[@moogobIin]

They both have that echoey graspiness in their voices.

[@Levy1111]

"Myron died less than a year after the defeat of the Enclave, stabbed by a Jet addict while drinking in the Den." "His discovery of Jet was quickly forgotten, and now there is no one who remembers his name." ＧＯＯＤ

[@user-uy7bn4kt2b]

Damn, that's a lotta damage

[@anderson9244MLG]

What a bruh moment

[@resmarted]

I liked him

[@shleemoshleep8236]

@@resmarted he can roofie you and do shit to you if you play as a girl with low endurance and intelligence.

[@matguimond92]

@@shleemoshleep8236 tf kind of rp is that lmao

[@DerpDashAlex]

That moment when fallout 2 had better voice acting than fallout 3.

[@Idazmi7]

So... all the moments.

[@cave_dweller6]

You're wrong. That's my theory. Also you're talking out of your ass. New Vegas had more top shelf voice actors than any Bethesda production has had. You simply made something up completely out of the blue and talked it up as if you have even a shred of evidence when in reality you're just an insane person who sees a villain story in everything. Your theory is wrong, AND you're wrong about there being too few voice actors in the game in the first place. "But that's just my theory...." (tips hat and fades into the shadows like the video game savior he is)

[@WUNDER64]

Yeah, maybe they wasted a lot of money just so Liam Neeson could voice act.

[@samsamson9155]

Ever notice that Bethesda fanboys immediate response to someone shitting on their aborted games is to go "Muh New Vegas bad"?

[@Bragglord]

@@samsamson9155 Implying that NV fanboys don't do the same? But yeah, the response is still dumb. Both are great games (3 and NV), I don't see why liking one necessitates calling the other shit.

[@d3scend4nt7]

I love how when Myron talked about the braahmin fertilizer a speech option is, "Speaking of shit.. Go on."

[@2-bit567]

God tier burn

[@unconscious7219]

"You can sniff a fart to go faster" -Obsidion

[@oz_jones]

Unconscious *Black Isle

[@shrekonion8307]

@@oz_jones *obsidian

[@darthcannabris5406]

shrek onion Black Isle made fallout 2.

[@shrekonion8307]

@@darthcannabris5406 yes but *obsidian

[@darthcannabris5406]

shrek onion Black Isle made the game. Obsidian is made up of many different people.

[@sweetwheatsy]

Really pleased with the somewhat competent chemical explanations for all of this; listing some compounds that do have something to do with drugs. Reminds me of the holodisks in Fallout 1 that described the FEV-virus in a biotechnological fashion, with the mutagens of DNA/RNA-strands and such. Really believable.

[@rebertowalph770]

Old Fallout was like that. A good RPG. Shame Bethesda got its hands on it.

[@vassalofthenight9945]

Meanwhile Fallout 4 - "Why are you killing people and creating synths in their image? And how do you do that?" "It's complicated, you wouldn't understand"

[@fpedrosa2076]

Also, in Fallout 2 most of the monsters, including ghouls, are explained by a combination of radiation and the FEV virus, and not just by "magic radiation". Another detail that got slowly diluted in the sequels. As for Conn Benn's question the FEV is a virus that alters its subjects DNA. It doesn't so much force evolution as it mutates its subject among certain lines. Now add to that the fact that some humans/animals already had their DNA randomly mutated by the radiation and you get the critters of Fallout.

[@fpedrosa2076]

@Conn Benn Everything you said was true, and it IS a common misconception that evolution is always "improvement" when really, it's random mutations and which ones thrive is decided by the current environment, which can change. But yes, the Forced Evolution Virus, despite its name, is more of a bio-engineered virus that increases the size, strength and capabilities of its host. Still mumbo-jumbo sci-fi, but at least it's researched sci-fi whose writer gave it some thought. It's not just magic radiation, but there's a different element to handwave it. Don't get me wrong, Fallout is not some hard sci-fi milestone or anything. But the earlier installments were closer to soft sci-fi (very unscientific, but with the fantastical aspects handwaved by advanced technology) while later ones (especially 4) are really closer to fantasy (laws of physics/reality are totally disregarded or changed to suit the story and the game. Also, it doesn't even bother attempting to explain how synths work, or even why the institute is creating them). There's nothing WRONG with that, per se. Fantasy has its place, like any other genre. But the difference is there, and it's noticeable.

[@nickkorkodylas5005]

@Conn Benn There are teleonomical trends in evolution but that has more to do with selective pressure, which is environmental, than mutations themselves.

[@MonkeyspankO]

such rich lore...going to waste

[@LordZoth6292]

How would they reuse myron or the background of his discovery of jet? They literally say that he was forgotten to time after his death.

[@LordZoth6292]

@Grandslam Gaz Ah touche. I was unaware of one line in a game of vast dialog. You win.

[@sionhughes3335]

@@DeyRapingEveryone What a mature and well thought out statement. You trully are a complex idividual with insightful opinions about serious issues. Fear not my good sir, I will never forget how life changing your insight was and how it affected LordZoth6293.

[@LordZoth6292]

@@DeyRapingEveryone lmao

[@satisverborum7760]

The lore is here to stay, just disregard everything that came after this.

[@BarbozoTheClown]

*"THIS IS..RUNNING ON EMPTY"*

[@cheekibreeki6088]

Donkey Squidward F O O D R E V I E W

[@bokchoiman]

Drug review~

[@nautikient2151]

@@yannkam2127 no it's school shooter review

[@thetechnostate316]

Amazed how a 4 minute conversation with a talking head does a better job setting the tone of the fallout series than a 50+ hour game.

[@alpha48z]

God this is why I love the Black Isle/ Obsidian games. The dialogue is so in depth and interesting vs fallout 4 where its like "I am commonwealth guy we are one of four factions can you go kill some raiders for me?"

[@filasophies4423]

Another settlement needs your help. Here, I'll mark it on your map.

[@danknerevarine3678]

Fuck Fallout 4. Short and shitty quests , most of it repeatable , unmemorable story and characters. Most characters anyway.

[@alpha48z]

SKYRIM addict yeah and like the shame is that the synths being introduced to the universe was such a neat idea and if the game had been written by anyone other than a team of monkeys it really coulda been one for ages. But oh well.

[@MalcolmNessGranger]

ohh go cry elsewhere... honestly - some people still enjoy the game. If you don't - good for you, but stop spreading hate just because you don't like it.

[@danknerevarine3678]

aye , i agree. It all comes to preference. But are you seriously gonna overlook the fact that everything is so bare-boned in Fallout 4? Come on, they had years to make the game and you are telling me that THIS is the best they can do????

[@ideadlift20kg83]

Jesus, the faces of this game is enough to give you nightmares.

[@blitheringrando1410]

Yeah, some howdy doody evil puppet vibes with that one.

[@jackhazardous4008]

That's part of the charm, in my opinion. The hideous faces are just what games were back then, and I kinda miss it

[@Natalie_Toshino]

Dude, the game is over 20 years old. To put it into perspective, Super Mario 64 came out only two years prior, and compare that game's Mario to Myron. I was surprised at how good Myron's face looked.

[@saudadeanguish3139]

I love the old school graphics of long ago. they're creepy, that's why i like em

[@iChoseScylla]

@@Natalie_Toshino He’s talking about the art style/choice and design of the faces, not the graphics.

[@jjaze9831]

IMO only people with 75 science can understand what he's saying.

[@roughfoxy101]

69th like

[@computerman789]

So the information he presents falls under the heads of people with 76+ Science?

[@Pepper1770]

computerman789 no you must be on exactly 75 science it’s not a matter of more intelligence because once you make it 76 science then it becomes retarded suddenly your in an MMO set before all the other games and there’s huge lore breaks like the BoS still having a relevancy and a bunch of other dumb shit it’s like having an extra chromosome or some shit

[@josephsshitpostemporium4325]

Damn I must have a lot of science then

[@Sam-xq3xh]

Honestly he isn’t saying much….

[@156football]

You get a thumbs up for not putting unnecessary shit in there. No dumb intro, no wasted time. And I learned something about fallout! Good video!

[@DaveOshry]

Thanks I made it pretty randomly!

[@michaelh404]

Not even Bethesda remembers his name, they think Jet was pre-war.

[@filthycasual8187]

It is pre-War. Myron's a lying little shit.

[@drumbeard]

@@filthycasual8187 proof from Fallout 2 pls.

[@michaelh404]

@SMB Comix The established lore is that he made it

[@filthycasual8187]

@@michaelh404 No, that's just your personal headcanon because you hate modern Fallout.

[@michaelh404]

@SMB Comix I’m someone who takes pre-establishes lore over new lore. And no, I don’t hate modern Fallout, the only one I don’t like is 76, I’m sure you’ll agree.

[@secularblasphemy6627]

Shouldn't this guy be reviewing fast food?

[@dankcatsmemes9219]

Secular Blasphemy yes

[@poppacarl4414]

He's fallen on hard times

[@Sam-ep2yo]

(Is stabbed by Jet addict, humorously becoming the architect of his own downfall) *"My disappointment is immeasurable"*

[@InhabitantOfOddworld]

@@Sam-ep2yo "And my day is ruined"

[@alexandervydrin1765]

lol, best comment in this thread :D

[@gaspersb]

I wonder if Myron mouthed off to the guy. I feel like he must have done something like that. He's a little bastard, and I can imagine him talking shit to some Jet addict and getting shanked quite easily.

[@shrek6723]

*"His discovery of Jet was quickly forgotten, and now there is no one who remembers his name"* Not even Bethesda remembers him.

[@rahadianaryo5979]

Oww shreck... *Not even many peoples at the Bethesda Softworks' remembers about Myron* alright...🤔😟?

[@kan12372]

@@rahadianaryo5979 shame cus theyre supposed to be making a fallout game.... idiots....

[@joehill4094]

Reviewbrah found some strange work after the bomb s fell

[@ChallengerV8]

When I discovered a cure for Jet addiction, I came back to that basement. I killed his guards, and when he stayed alone, begging for mercy, I mercifully pulled the trigger. I hate him.

[@ravensflockmate]

Enjoy the child killer perk I guess

[@RoachDawggJR]

I’m really surprised how intricate this dialogue is

[@Ayavaron]

This voice acting is really good.

[@ranja2486]

Fun Fact: That's actually Boone's voice actor

[@shm-zp8ev]

The voice actor also voiced Max Goof from the Goofy movies.

[@shortinos]

I had a dream that Myron would come into my room at night and stare it me with those lifeless eyes.

[@SMGJohn]

Myron liked his women but problem is women did not like him so if you were remotely 5% less man he be all over you, and I refuse to imagine that sorts of things he do.

[@literallyagalilacegenii7.690]

Plz no

[@utkajmatke863]

@@SMGJohn not true, myron do not engage with woman protagonist when charisma is lower than 6

[@Vetusomaru]

The voice actor of this character is Jason Marsden, the same one who also gave his voice to Max at A Goofy Movie.

[@sebastianmartinez1843]

And Boone

[@TheAlienGangster]

These old games are dripping with atmosphere. I hope we get another “old school” Fallout like New Vegas.

[@ClonesDream]

I know New Vegasians are blunt in the head and only believe that game exists and nothing else, but calling NV "Old School" is the dumbest thing I have heard from this community lol. That's like saying your 3 day old bread is "vintage".

[@TheAlienGangster]

ClonesDream not only is the game almost two console generations old, but it makes sense to compare it to Fallout 1 and 2, the old school games

[@old_account189]

Borsalino Kizaru lets not forget that some the original creators worked on NV too.

[@TheAlienGangster]

Isak Zahirovic yup. The authentic atmosphere really sold Fallout NV for me. I still love Fallout 3 too, just as a different experience

[@old_account189]

Borsalino Kizaru Yee i really liked fallout 3, but NV kind of “had its head on the shoulders” more. It was still standing with one leg in the original identity of Fallout games instead of 50s references and futurism. Sadly it took the future games bad turn.

[@grilledcheesinator55]

is it weird that i don't use chems in any of my fallout playthroughs?

[@zapdragon23]

no I don't either

[@borderlands10]

I try to stay sober, too. Although when I'm in a pickle or get desperate, I pop some Med-X for when I'm under heavy fire and some Psycho when my gun sucks and the enemies are tough.

[@MasterAltair756]

I only use med-x and rad-x that’s it.

[@windwind3170]

I took drugs so i could become a pornstar.

[@ThatOneFriendlyDude]

my experience with Fallout games and drugs Fallout 1-3, NV: “yo I don’t want to get addicted to drugs, let’s keep it to a minimum” Fallout 4: **consumes every drug ever then drinks a Refreshing Beverage to cure any addictions obtained**

[@TheAlienGangster]

For people saying the jet retcon doesn’t matter: we recognize that it’s not a deal breaker but it’s just another sign of Bethesda contradicting lore for something that adds nothing to the game. It just makes Bethesda look lazy since they can’t write it in a way that makes sense, and the retcon could’ve easily just not existed

[@flameguy3416]

It does matter, it's the only post war drug in the franchise, and it has very good lore behind it, and for Bethesda to completely disregard it is very lazy

[@TheAlienGangster]

FlameGuy it also somehow found its way to the east coast thousands of miles away even though there’s barely any people in the Fallout universe who are even recorded to have travelled that far (Kellogg, ED-E, Enclave, Harold, and the Brotherhood are the only ones we know of). It just stinks of Bethesda making bad lore then trying to erase what was established before to cover up their own plot holes.

[@nome9752]

bethesda can only work with magic because The Elder Scrolls lore they did right

[@princesstinklepanties2720]

@@nome9752 hell elder scrolls lore was written by the fans anyway

[@princesstinklepanties2720]

@Ryan Munyon ?

[@TeCHnORiOT]

Even Bethesda forgot about him.

[@R3DSH1FT196]

Mauro Molinero I haven't played much of the early fallout games. What's so drastically different about the lore?

[@RojOdio]

Nothing much except some new additions. He's probably talking about how Bethesda's Fallout 4 has Jet existing before the Great War, which causes some fans of the originals to freak out about lore contradictions. When it's much easier to suggest that Myron lied, especially since there's already some dialogue in Fallout 2 that implies Myron didn't invent Jet and is lying. But those lore errors get a break because it's from the original creators.

[@R3DSH1FT196]

J Interesting. I was hoping for more than just some kid "inventing" cow shit amphetamines. That's why I asked about the supposed 98% of missing lore from earlier instalments. I guess I'll have to find time to play through them myself, unless this guy eventually responds. Thanks

[@RojOdio]

Well, people also hate on some other things Bethesda did. 1 - They introduced Super Mutants on the East Coast in Fallout 3. Fallout 1 establishes the Super Mutants as being made by the Master by dipping humans into FEV on the West Coast. So, to them, Bethesda "breaks" the lore... except for the fact that Bethesda explains Super Mutants on the West Coast as coming from FEV taken from Vault 87. In Fallout 4, Bethesda explains Super Mutants in Boston through experimentation on FEV. 2- People don't like Bethesda's take on the GECK, which had previously been thought of as merely a briefcase filled with seeds and gardening and construction books. Fallout 3 has GECKS as crazy advanced matter replicator devices.... But the Fallout 1 manual explicitly mentions that GECKS are cold fusion powered matter replicators. Side note: People give less shit to Obsidian following Bethesda's take here - as two of their DLCS, Dead Money and Honest Hearts, also use matter replicator technology in a casino, of all things. 3- People also fiddle over Fallout 4's introduction of the T-60 power armor. Previously, the T-51b had been established as the pinnacle of power armor tech. This is easy to reconcile, since in the game its implied that the T-60s were deployed only days before the bombs fell. 4- People also complain about the introduction of the X-01. But, yet again, there are theories that suggest that the Enclave armors were based on the X-01, a pre-War prototype. I'm sure you can get other answers from other people, but it basically boils down to people out of hand dismissing any new additions to lore as Bethesda's "mistakes", when in reality none of them break the setting and a few of them already fit into the existing setting.

[@MrZalgo-ml2iw]

So it's mainly just nostalgia fans being butthurt over new changes?

[@gabrielm4845]

the dialogue, omg, how far they have fallen

[@camelthegamer7165]

I lost sight of their headlamp hours ago.

[@BlazingOwnager]

Myron was the best party member. He'd stop in a fight to go loot and use drugs.

[@mado-wh4jv]

Everyone could did that, with some exceptions as Cassidy

[@BlazingOwnager]

@@mado-wh4jv No they didn't. They'd run off and steal Stimpacks, but Marvin would run off and steal stuff like Jet and Mentats and start shoveling them mid fight.

[@mado-wh4jv]

@@BlazingOwnager You can custom that aspect in custom combat mode talking with them, they usually are instruct to "only use stimpacts when you're hurt", but you can turn it to "use any drug any time" as Myron is

[@michealballspen1s93]

@@BlazingOwnager hell yeah brother

[@jkajmo]

I love it that there's a whole story on how a little item in a game was created. Even items have their own story/side quests. Fallout 2 is such a great game.

[@romanbellic1482]

Nobody knows the recipe? I craft jet in fallout 4 all the time

[@simounraga3072]

Roman Bellic I'm going to die from reading this.

[@ImranKhan-ty9ij]

well fallout 4 does take place quite a few years after 2 if i understand the timeline correctly

[@redbird1500]

Fallout 4 really, really shouldn't be canon. That said, Fallout 4 happens over a hundred years after Fallout 2. During the time of Fallout 2, only the Mordino family (and Myron of course) knew the recipe to Jet thus they had sole distribution rights... not by law, but simply because they were the only ones who knew how to make up. I'm sure if someone else figured it out, or if someone else created an even more addictive drug, they would either bribe them to work for the family like they did Myron, or kill them and bury them in Golgotha. As all things however, the secret recipe for Jet couldn't stay a secret forever. Who knows exactly how it got out. Perhaps a slave witnessed it's creation, then escaped? Perhaps one of the scientists defected when the guards weren't looking? Perhaps when the Mordino family came crashing down, the many scientists that were working for them at the time manufacturing Jet simply struck out on their own and all became independent dealers, figuring they could make loads of cash selling it themselves with the Mordinos not being around. Then of course time goes on and more and more people learn how to make it, and it becomes like any other drug. To be fair though, Jet is, at least as of Fallout 2, the ONLY drug that is still being manufactured (that I know of). All the other ones, Buffout, Mentats, Psycho, etc. are all pre-war drugs that are simply scavenged, probably from old pharmacies and factories. Unless you want to count alcohol as a "drug". The one exception to this rule that I could probably think of is Vault City, who most likely has knowledge and means to create the ole pre war drugs, but very likely only give them to citizens as prescribed medications for certain ailments... though I imagine Psycho wouldn't be prescribed ever, at all. It's a VC law however that anyone inside the city cannot legally partake in the use of drugs OR alcohol for recreational purposes.

[@mr_beezlebub3985]

Lucien LaChance Fallout 4 actually takes place 46 years after 2

[@Andynory]

Well, when you kill all the Followers of the Apocalipse in Fallout: New Vegas, the ending says that the place was occuppied by junkies that used medicines to create drugs. So maybe they that to, somehow, make the drugs they consume.

[@JackOfAllTradersOriginal]

this kid saved my ass so many times thanks to jet

[@mado-wh4jv]

My twin!

[@Robert_D_Mercer]

This lore ties fiction with reality, and in my opinion makes the BEST kind of lore.

[@ningus223]

fuck man that ending is dark.

[@LoverOfManyArts]

+Dailenth agreed

[@sethleoric2598]

No one remembered his name so hard that the history of jet got retconned

[@ZigealFaust]

When a game 20 years old has waaaay better writing and characters than it's 4th iteration.

[@unescoworldheritagesite7508]

actually fallout 4 is the 7th fallout game

[@seihaiteamfs7333]

Do they need to explain everything again?

[@kategrant2728]

And facial animations

[@Wizered]

@@seihaiteamfs7333 No but it would be nice to have Father explain what the Institute is doing rather than forcing the player to go digging and read between the lines of some dialogue. Especially since, y'know, the player can be IN CHARGE of the Institute but not be sure what the end goal is.

[@seihaiteamfs7333]

@@Wizered yeah I agree, Bethesda used to be known for their rich lores but in Fallout 4 it is just too simple and cartoony. The gameplay is fun, the characters (except Garvey) is interesting but the story is uhhhhhhhhhh

[@BLsurprise]

A fitting end for a shit, died by someone ingesting fumed shit

[@sherlockbonez]

Myron needs his own podcast

[@gaiuscaligula2229]

Wo wo, hang on a second, so you're telling me that Jet isn't made out of a pre-war plastic pen and a unit of fertelizer? next you will be telling me my bed isn't made from a single pencil and a couple of cigarettes. Fallout 4 has lied to me!

[@Niko15TOA]

You do know where fertilizer come from?

[@alphagigamalechad9631]

I haven’t ever played fallout 1-2 and it makes me sad because the lore is so in depth it makes you feel like you’re actually there, talking to these people like it’s so like clean and just it delivers so well.

[@Gaizkia]

>peyote? I mean cmon it isn’t half the strength of say.. old school LSD BOI

[@w0rloko]

clearly Myron was never on Erowid

[@neighbor4772]

Never done peyote but man old school lsd had like 300 mics a tab that’s strong as shit

[@Sentralkontrol]

he doesn't mean in the dose you consume, he means in quantity

[@yeastofthoughtsmind9623]

I mean pound for pound, LSD is technically more potent, since its measured in micrograms vs mescaline being measured in milligrams. You'd need less LSD to have an equivalent trip to mescaline. An average dose of mescaline would be about 200-400 milligrams, where an average dose of LSD is 75-150 micrograms. Imagine taking 300 milligrams of LSD. And peyote usually only has a mescaline content of about 3-6% when dried out, so you need waaaay more cactus to achieve the same effect.

[@yeastofthoughtsmind9623]

@@neighbor4772 that is strong, but LSD from the 60s wasn't always 300 micrograms. The concentration is and was up to whomever laid the acid on the blotter. However there is some anecdotal evidence to suggest that the average concentration of LSD per blotter was higher than it is today, due to the drug being cheaper and more readily available in the 60s. Also I'm pretty sure the character was simply referring to LSD in general being a rather old school drug, not to a specific Era of LSD production/consumption. 300 ug is a heavy dose though. Any time I've taken that much has been pretty insane, but also very interesting and typically enjoyable.

[@greenseagull9611]

Myron isn't nearly as annoying when he's talking about something he's clearly passionate about, I'll give him that.

[@gamesux420]

Hes like drug Mark Zuckerberg

[@YeahitsMeSylvia]

I fucking choked on my water while reading this 😂😂😂😂

[@XtraGranDeeZ]

Well, Bethesda didn't totally disregard the old lore. In the chemistry table you make jet with fertilizer

[@DissectingTitanic]

The people who think Bethesda disregarded the lore behind Jet are stupid.

[@Boxmajor]

Sounds like the guy that helps you do heists in GTA 5.

[@whatevermakesyouhappy]

God this game is forever the coolest and most interesting lore hands down. Elder scrolls is right up there but this feels so much closer to possible reality

[@KDC93]

"I gotta cut back on the jet."

[@kumakhan]

"The jet will make you jittery."

[@MalcolmNessGranger]

"Now don't start talking crazy..."

[@Thagomizer]

It's really saying something that in a game series populated with all sorts of unsavory characters, like radiated mutants, rotting ghouls, monstrous post-war abominations, scumbag raiders, mobsters, pimps, slavers, rapists, drug lords, and genocidal xenophobes, Myron stands out as the singularly most repulsive character in 5 games.

[@haramsaddam238]

Same voice actor as Max Goof from Disney

[@dafatmofo13]

Get rekt Myron

[@atlasguytinyproductions55]

If you think about it, Myron and “Mr. Fantastic” are very similar. Or atleast their personality

[@xbluebunii]

Nah they just literally sound the same

[@JazzJackrabbit]

He was the first to combine 2x Fertilizer and 1x Plastic at a Chemistry Station

[@fawkewe]

How they made a kid who just wanted to make some money sound 1000x more evil then Caeser the brutal dictator (who actually would have been arround the same age as myron here.) is amazing.

[@vizehplays8830]

Ironic huh, the creator killed by its creation.

[@thatguy8711]

There's some dialogue in fallout 4 if you talk to the chem dealer in Diamond city. Nate/Nora actually seems rightfully concerned that extremely addictive drugs are being legally sold on the street, but of course it's shrugged off as "Fallout wacky"

[@TheParkerj2000]

fallout 2 seems alot scarier than the newer editions of the game.

[@GMS-ChaabarYakalATL]

It’s because it’s raw and uncut

[@Athmel]

It's because the game is mostly text. With that they can write what they want without the constraints of graphics and you fill in the rest with your imagination - which is always going to be the ideal. You imagine walking into the room and meeting Myron and nothing is wrong because it's your imagination.

[@dylanhusted1746]

Fallout 1 is definitly more grim and scary

[@OlgaUnKolhozs]

Fallout 2 is much darker and has more rock n roll. Children are robbing you, blood, piss and shit all over the map, a lot of people on drugs running around..fuck the atmosphere of this game is very different

[@dr.fleischkanu8200]

3:45 Wow, that escalated quickly

[@some1gifted]

This is more interesting than any conversation in the whole of fallout 4 put together

[@camzimmeman97]

Someone knew psychedelics at interplay. No wonder all the fallout games are great on acid.

[@snipershadow3011]

how the fuck you manage to play fallout on acid? I have trouble running around on Minecraft but yeah it's pretty funny that writer at Interplay made himself some fun writing that

[@Ghandicus]

Agreed, and they're playable Renaud because lsd makes games feel like they run on autopilot, always been better at any game played on it personally

[@snipershadow3011]

Interesting. Are you talking about microdoses maybe? I really can't see how one could focuses enough to play a game on higher doses.

[@TheSeeohhdee]

Renaud Pelletier i took a massive dose a couple months ago and absolutely lost my mind playing FarCry5. the opening scene and first mission are absolutely bananas: so much fun. but, to answer your question, i usually experience heightened awareness on it and get significantly better at gaming on acid.

[@nojoke1976]

I played New Vegas on DXM one time and did the quest outside NV where you have to save the daughter of a mother that is hanging out with bad guys and then SPOILER she tries to stab her mother beacause i killed her bad friends or something. This was so intense it felt like real people it was amazing and deep at the same time

[@jackb9530]

he looks like fry from futurama

[@ihate2danimationprofiles895]

Jack B Sounds Like Him

[@orisheretohelp]

"Now there is no one that remembers his name." Well they sure as hell got that right.

[@ItsMe-ns3kc]

Fallout 2: "Jet was created after the great war." Fallout 4: "I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that."

I love how dark and unforgiving the fallout lore was.

[@jackhazardous4008]

Yeah, in early fallout games if you fucked up, your character got raped, turned to a super mutant, or enslaved.

[@superturret]

so kind of like jenkem?

[@isaiahdaniels5643]

Actually...... yeah, exactly like that.

[@srbrant5391]

I think the Jenkem urban legend was the inspiration.

[@kharnifex]

@@srbrant5391 other way around

[@BlikeNave]

Fallout 4 'Jet' recipe: Fertilizer + Plastic, LOL. I was the Heisenberg of the wasteland. $$$$$$$$

[@dmaster225]

Man some of these conversations have more substance than the whole game of fallout 4

[@yellowgoose5043]

Hey man, fallout 4 was good. Don't bash. It's the only one we got left.

[@TheK2rla]

@@yellowgoose5043 Of course Fallout 4 was a good game. But a good Fallout game? No.

[@breadlover302]

@@TheK2rla It still is a good Fallout game, not every Fallout has to be exactly the same. Now 76, that's trash we can agree on that.

[@TheK2rla]

​@@breadlover302 Of course it shouldn't be exactly the same, but I'm pretty sure you'd expect a game to retain what makes it a Fallout game. The RPG elements in Fallout 4 are basically nonexistent: it plays more like a shooter than an RPG and every character you create ends up being exactly the same in the long run. It doesn't deserve the "RPG" tag to its name, therefore it is a bad Fallout game. Bethesda has completely forgotten the roots for this amazing series. It's plain to see that Fallout 4 was simplified so that it could attract a bigger playerbase. It's completely devoid of aspects that make 1, 2, and NV amazing. Don't really have an opinion about 76, though. I've never played it.

[@johnorulzu]

Myron invents Jet and gets stabbed by a Jet Addict and no one remembers his name, not even Bethesda. Poetic.

[@SpeechCheck]

Nice gem. Sweet work putting this one out.

[@Bluemilk92]

Oh come on, don't act all high and mighty, who here hasn't spent an evening (or five) high on premium Butthash?

[@jackhazardous4008]

No asshashin?

[@LordZoth6292]

I love how most of the comments are about Bethesda, and almost nothing about the actual video we watched.

[@donaldtrump2728]

@@derwachter8716 Bethesda bad

[@audellaroque4730]

Der Wächter nostalgiatards like you are so funny lmao

[@clinkerskun]

@@audellaroque4730 nostalgiatards? lol

[@breadlover302]

It's really annoying too, makes me think they aren't really fans of Fallout at all and just looking for an excuse to bash Bethseda.

[@deeta000]

@@breadlover302 It’s not hard to find a reason to bash Bethesda. They’re practically begging for it.

[@Radkins1990]

Well to be fair. It DID say no one remebers him. I'm sure todd just respects the lore so much he made it cannon in his head and forgot.

[@micfrog]

Crazy to think this video I watched like 2 years ago was made by the guy who helped make some of my favorite recent games. World is tiny

[@smooa1889]

i really need to play the first two fallouts some day

[@xPrecisionx]

2:35 What the fuck is he talking about? He specifically said before the war, and then he says the companies fed the extract to their "brahmin herds". There aren't any brahmin before the war.... they're a mutation....

[@redbird1500]

@DessertEagle yeah this is the most likely guess. I'm willing to bet that there are a LOT of people, "scientists" included (and whether Myron can actually be deemed a scientist is up for discussion... he didn't even found Jet due to his own great ability with chemistry, it's founding was an accident) had no idea Brahmin were a mutated version of the cow, and that "normal" cows never had two heads unless an actual scientist told them so. Even then they would probably be speculative.

[@camielpovel6290]

The voice acting in this is surprisingly good..

[@captainbeefheart6744]

Just the music alone in the first few seconds makes what Fallout was.

[@dustinmasterson411]

And now there is no one who remembers his name.

[@SommerSen]

Objective: Do a Pacifist Run Obstacle:

[@nickbitle8852]

A fit ending for a man who brought such evil into the newborn wasteland.

[@theMimicsBox]

I didn't expect to see this from you Dave

[@narf760]

Man, this made me want to play through the old Fallout games again. The writing is so much better than in Fallout 3/4!

[@KingThrillgore]

I respect that Big John has this video on his channel

[@professordraxon3982]

I love the fact that, in an interview i believe it was, one of the writers who wrote myron, stated he in FACT invented jet, but due to some other dialogue in the game it eludes to that myron is lying but, the writer in fact stated that the missmatched dialogue was a mistake

[@YoMama9150]

RIP myron, killed by hubologist in my playthrough.

[@bobuscesar2534]

Vincent Osuna Lol. Well I killing the darn hubos was often the first thing I did in many of my playthroughs after finishing the "Navaro Run".

[@redbird1500]

He was the casualty of an Enclave patrol in one of mine. While Sulik and I ran, he was the idiot who thought he could take on a power-armored Enclave trooper with a 10mm sub machine gun. Died in two turns, and his final fate was being zapped and his skeleton turning to ash.

[@robbielawsonguitar6446]

I just killed him myself when I got to Reno

[@jezzaboi2168]

Jet is post war jenkum damn

[@themeinofmein.5484]

How many times must we say it? REMASTER FALLOUT 1 AND 2!

[@nome9752]

they can't, they lost the code of the game so it they remaster it they would need to create everything from 0

[@87ghouls31]

the voice acting in this game is so perfect.

[@redtulip1308]

Yes!! I hate so much his voice and that's a good thing because the voice actor it's so professional and do his job

[@roddydykes7053]

Reminds me of Mr. Fantastic from New Vegas

[@xbluebunii]

probably cuz they sound the exact same lmao

[@Hogo69]

Didn't like this kid... Left him alive in case I wanted him for my party but then returned and blew him in half with gauss rifle rip...

[@kofola9145]

What a sad story. Got stabbed and forgotten in less than a year.

[@AidsPizza]

Beavis invents jenkem, 1998, colorized

[@yaboijon]

Looks like the Yodeling boy

[@BarbozoTheClown]

itss beanie Fuck that kid he gone, This is TheReportOfTheWeek

[@autisticfantasies]

tHiS iS RunNING on emPTy *F o o d R E v i e w*

[@hkfitness56]

Well hello people, this is your host TheReportOfTheWeek

[@clearlywrong6520]

Nobody: Me: *not watching Fallout content* KZbin algorithm: aRe YoU iNtErEsTeD iN jEt FrOm FaLLouT 2???

[@giguyjoe]

Oh you too?

[@clearlywrong6520]

@toast no

[@ImmenseDefencecemre]

@toast shut up

[@clearlywrong6520]

@@ImmenseDefencecemre okay :(

[@MrFredstt]

Little things like this that are so dialogue and lore rich makes me realize how much better this is than Fallout 4.

[@anderson9244MLG]

His ending is a big bruh moment