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Fallout 4 Guide - Guard Post Ideas

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norespawns

norespawns

8 жыл бұрын

After the last video and new guard tower build - I wanted to experiment with a couple of new ideas for guard posts; as I realised I'd only really made towers and wanted something new.
I also make one design for artillery pieces - but will be making a video soon with a few more.
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@lucafossett
@lucafossett 8 жыл бұрын
Seeing you guys using that pillar has made me feel so grateful for 'place everywhere'. You're amazing norespawns, seriously on evilviking13 level.
@boxofhammers1427
@boxofhammers1427 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think we can do all that stuff with the Place Everywhere mod tho.
@boxofhammers1427
@boxofhammers1427 7 жыл бұрын
I mean the sinking stuff into the ground part.
@AlfredBaublitz
@AlfredBaublitz 7 жыл бұрын
You can't get that mod on PS4 Which that he uses and I use because of Sony limitations
@johngetthatmoney-doe7824
@johngetthatmoney-doe7824 7 жыл бұрын
Luca Fossett us PS4 builders innovate that's for sure
@ethanbrown6726
@ethanbrown6726 5 жыл бұрын
It’s fine I got over 1000 only learnt yesterday
@chandjor0009
@chandjor0009 8 жыл бұрын
3:01 = Brilliant. "Pillar is life, so saith the book of Todd." lol
@fuckingallah1596
@fuckingallah1596 8 жыл бұрын
Damn I'm glad someone likes building in fallout as much as me.
@mannyca11
@mannyca11 7 жыл бұрын
10:31 "... I don't want to spend way too long fiddling with myself on the video." LOL
@HeadHunterSix
@HeadHunterSix 2 ай бұрын
"Abusing the pillar" as the kids say in the Wasteland.
@evansheehan9258
@evansheehan9258 8 жыл бұрын
Please make a Nuka cola shrine. Show your respect to the gods of Nuka.
@nielsegense
@nielsegense 8 жыл бұрын
Heretic! None shall contest the divinity of the Todd-Emperor!
@stevewatts3502
@stevewatts3502 8 жыл бұрын
Neils b4 Zod
@herbertparsons6998
@herbertparsons6998 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like someone was triggered... Bedsides...You heretics need to heed the call of the krivbeknih!
@silentgamer3042
@silentgamer3042 6 жыл бұрын
Alphastarseeds Calm the fuck down, you need to learn how to spell before you insult someone
@ethanbrown6726
@ethanbrown6726 5 жыл бұрын
All hail John Caleb Bradburton!
@HaguDeGozaru
@HaguDeGozaru 8 жыл бұрын
I've always scoffed at using junk fences, but sunken down into the ground, they don't look half bad! Good ol' "sink stuff into the ground to re-purpose them" Bethesda.
@jzargo7443
@jzargo7443 8 жыл бұрын
Oh and for the artillery, one good one is make sort of a bunker around it and use two of the barn roofs (one on either side with a gap it the middle for the gun to stick out). I seems like it would be cool
@jzargo7443
@jzargo7443 8 жыл бұрын
also more permanent feeling
@ValiLoco187
@ValiLoco187 8 жыл бұрын
sounds interesting^^
@herbertlives9001
@herbertlives9001 8 жыл бұрын
i like that
@luc9450
@luc9450 8 жыл бұрын
God dammit J'zargo I've searched for you in the whole of skyrim and this is where I find you ?
@jzargo7443
@jzargo7443 8 жыл бұрын
Luc Marguerat I am sorry, the commonwealth needs me. I'll be back soon.
@johnnyinkstube
@johnnyinkstube 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sinking information, I've just recently went with concrete walls to build covenant style walls around my settlements and I haven't started on the interiors yet, because I have a lot of walls to build, but man that sinking is going to make life so much easier now when I start the interior builds, can't wait to upload the tours. Thanks again
@candyDander
@candyDander 4 жыл бұрын
Just started playing Fallout 4, at the part where you make a settlement in Sanctuary and got overwhelmed with possibilities (setting up defenses currently). I play Sims games but I'm more of a sim stylist than builder. Very cool ideas in this video. They help me see some of the building pieces in new ways. Thanks!
@WhiteManOnCampus
@WhiteManOnCampus 8 жыл бұрын
Okay, you're really inspiring me to take a stab at more immersive settlement building.
@ciisb4ck
@ciisb4ck 8 жыл бұрын
id give anything for a hotkey setup for building, like with weapons... because I use the pillar religiously.
@norespawns
@norespawns 8 жыл бұрын
I knew I wanted that - but you're right, that would be awesome.
@fessy4
@fessy4 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome mod idea! you should add it to mod requests on the nexus, or do you mind if i post your idea?
@ciisb4ck
@ciisb4ck 8 жыл бұрын
+fessy4 post away bud, i cant mod, but wouls love to have it as one.
@fessy4
@fessy4 8 жыл бұрын
hahaha im exactly the same. just in my mind im thinking this would have to be fairly easy because the weapon hotkey system is already there but who knows. i did some small modding in fallout 3, im sorta of keen to give it a try for fallout 4. moddings come so far since then.
@ciisb4ck
@ciisb4ck 8 жыл бұрын
+fessy4 lol thats what i was thinking, with a system in place, im not sure why bethesda didnt just add a build hotkey anyway, i have so many pieces i just use so much, hopefully it happens by someone eventually! :)
@leewright415
@leewright415 2 ай бұрын
Love these. The fact you showed us in step by step is a great help.
@JohnnyIchundHans
@JohnnyIchundHans 8 жыл бұрын
"The Junk Fence is like a scrappy fence." norespawns quotes 2016
@justmemattafer
@justmemattafer 8 жыл бұрын
Youre creativity is INSANE.
@tommolloy8661
@tommolloy8661 8 жыл бұрын
The guard post for the artillery actually makes it look like it would fit in any settlement now and not just the castle
@J.B.1982
@J.B.1982 8 жыл бұрын
I had no idea you could manipulate workshop items with the concrete posts like that. Thank you! I'll be following you too
@EccoWolf1
@EccoWolf1 8 жыл бұрын
At Longfellow's Cabin I made sort of a Boat shed over the water on elevated platforms converted into a player home, with bed area in an elevated loft . I used the wire flooring for the loft and placed down large rugs on it, to give it a lived in feel.
@cursedmonkey1033
@cursedmonkey1033 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for demonstrating the pillar trick. Its such a great tool. I'm doing my Sanctuary perimeter right now, blocking all those holes in the hedge. In the past it would take me hours and hours fannying about trying to block them. Now I can just use the pillar glitch to plonk junk fences in and its all done. Looks great too.
@TheEtherealAlchemist
@TheEtherealAlchemist 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think I come to watch and rewatch these videos not for the tips and tricks, but just to listen to Davey's smooth voice. Damn you Davey!
@bigderek9761
@bigderek9761 7 жыл бұрын
All of your concepts just come together so nicely. Keep up the inspiring work!
@Hotshot2414
@Hotshot2414 8 жыл бұрын
I think Bethesda should just get rid of the 'you can't place that anywhere' mechanic, because although it prevents mass unrealistic settlement building and all (e.g. floating buildings and merging objects), it also greatly reduces the creativity to make stuff alternative AND also hinders making realistic looking structures (e.g. giant walkways that actually look supported and don't break physics). Also, that second design could also look a bit more like bunker if the roof was lowered more :)
@frejalindholdt8823
@frejalindholdt8823 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love an update on this video with mods and more dlcs and all that jazz :)
@obliviouskay6173
@obliviouskay6173 8 жыл бұрын
This pillar glitch works nicely with some of the standing lamps, especially the dome topped ones
@ZanyBoy
@ZanyBoy 8 жыл бұрын
man love you videos, like people who have attention to detail
@johngetthatmoney-doe7824
@johngetthatmoney-doe7824 7 жыл бұрын
Bethesda should hire you
@Saddam_Hussein1979
@Saddam_Hussein1979 8 жыл бұрын
If you like artillery emplacements then you should check out Real Time Commanders. He's really good
@ddoges
@ddoges 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed, he also did a guard post bunker type thing too.
@nielsegense
@nielsegense 8 жыл бұрын
Craig is a bit concrete-centric, but he DOES have some very good ideas, yeah!
@Lionheart-Global
@Lionheart-Global 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam. Always interested in watching the good Fallout builders.
@marcc.8324
@marcc.8324 8 жыл бұрын
+Niels Egense Yup!
@potemadunne1350
@potemadunne1350 8 жыл бұрын
You leave Craig alone.
@scottballinger5531
@scottballinger5531 7 жыл бұрын
I know that I'm exceptionally late to comment on this one, but I like using a concrete wall on either side of the artillery and then the curved concrete walls at the end of the wall. It fits perfectly if you line it up right.
@mattps.3040
@mattps.3040 8 жыл бұрын
You can put signs on guard posts if you wanna make the fronts of them look a bit different from each other
@modernsurvivalist5769
@modernsurvivalist5769 5 жыл бұрын
If you glitch a chair into a toilet to where its hidden but level. Settlers will sit on the chair but it will look like there useing the toilet. Makes settlements feel just that much more realistic and alive.
@danielkraig1298
@danielkraig1298 8 жыл бұрын
your concrete pillar glitch works like a charm
@Hotshot2414
@Hotshot2414 8 жыл бұрын
With regards to using the concrete support to allow things to merge, maybe instead of storing it over and over you can put it to the side for ease of access rather than flipping through aaalll the objects :P
@lehtamohan3595
@lehtamohan3595 8 жыл бұрын
Davey, this was a great, entertaining, and informative video. Learned a lot! +1
@JDsWrld
@JDsWrld 8 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who actually is interested in the workshop like me. Usually people are like pfffft building.
@swirlsquirl
@swirlsquirl 8 жыл бұрын
I know how stupid of question this probably sounds but I see your on ps4 and you can still toggle scroll the height of the object. I am embarrassed to say I have over 325 hours into fallout and have no idea how to do that XD just how?? I could do so much. its appreciated. thanks in advance
@norespawns
@norespawns 8 жыл бұрын
on PS4 you hold down x and L1 - you can then use the left bumped to raise and lower the object.
@swirlsquirl
@swirlsquirl 8 жыл бұрын
omg just thank you. ive asked this on so many different peoples videos and your the only one to reply. you earned another sub. you've made some of the better ideas and ive used allot myself. its much appreciated again
@stefanstoyanov7460
@stefanstoyanov7460 8 жыл бұрын
Ok, but how to select the two pieces on PC?
@nabed4t
@nabed4t 8 жыл бұрын
+stefan stoyanov wondering the same thing :)
@HeartoftheWinter
@HeartoftheWinter 8 жыл бұрын
Hold E and drag
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 8 жыл бұрын
I use the rounded concrete walls and floor sections of wasteland workshop dlc to build covered pillboxes sunken into the ground using the clamp based turrets with just the weapon showing
@gemmapritchard4696
@gemmapritchard4696 8 жыл бұрын
I did a cool guard post a few days ago Davey it mixed a turret with a raised guard post above it, got a pic on my ps4 will send it on twitter when I can get it off there. Also was inspired by your sanctuary gate house and did a slightly longer on with 2 guard posts a turret and that little steeple thingy with a lantern added into it looks cool gotten tons better watching yours vids mate.
@M1PAC
@M1PAC 8 жыл бұрын
I think I am going to spend my Friday with a crate of beer and Doing some of Davy's Suggestions .
@potemadunne1350
@potemadunne1350 8 жыл бұрын
Say hi to the crate of beer for me.
@M1PAC
@M1PAC 8 жыл бұрын
+Potema Dunne yea! turns out that the beer didn't agree with me. I spent all day Saturday very poorly and not with a hangover, I was not happy :(
@incap6038
@incap6038 8 жыл бұрын
Some good ideas for scrappy guard posts, these will be good for the upcoming Nuka World DLC and our new raider gang.
@SwearMY
@SwearMY 10 ай бұрын
Brilliants. I didn't know about the sinking/not-sinking.
@michaelsnyder7704
@michaelsnyder7704 8 жыл бұрын
you can make easy covered guard posts, the guard post can have a wooded pre fab snap onto it
@potemadunne1350
@potemadunne1350 8 жыл бұрын
I like to mix mediums but I probably overuse the concrete a bit much. It's just so easy to use.
@Kurnelius1252
@Kurnelius1252 7 жыл бұрын
Maaaate! Your a bleeding genius! Thank you for the tips Imma do this on all my settlements!
@CaptainBipto
@CaptainBipto 4 жыл бұрын
I use chain link fencing as anti grenade/missile defense. As an added layer of protection for my guard posts and turrets.
@jamesbarclay8130
@jamesbarclay8130 7 жыл бұрын
where did you get those different types of concrete and stuff
@efuruness8158
@efuruness8158 7 жыл бұрын
KiNg_JamesGaming from the wasteland workshop
@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75
@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 4 жыл бұрын
I mean if you want concrete buildings just get the snappy builds kit unless you want some of the other things wasteland workshop has
@xominety4091
@xominety4091 6 жыл бұрын
Damn didn't know you had that much variety. Thanks 🙏🤙
@Garrison64
@Garrison64 8 жыл бұрын
For that second post you could just build the whole thing on top of the ground and then grab it as a whole and sink it slightly. That would get rid of the floaty junk wall legs.
@potemadunne1350
@potemadunne1350 8 жыл бұрын
Would it though?
@victorfisk
@victorfisk 8 жыл бұрын
You dont have to care about the fences not being sunken before you do the pillar glitch, just make sure the concrete pillar is ever so slightly sunken into the ground and not "standing" on top of the ground.
@lavendervarya
@lavendervarya 8 жыл бұрын
it might be obvious but you can sink with concrete pillar rug glitched stuff. to make it go where it couldn't without rugs and sink it as you desire ❤
@jaycool86
@jaycool86 8 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel. Building in this game is my favorite thing to do, and I enjoy seeing new and creative ways of doing it, also people's settlement builds. Thank you for your video, look forward to more. Peace.
@tihsknad40
@tihsknad40 8 жыл бұрын
Jeez davey, you abuse that pillar more than my neighbor does his ex.
@PureCountryof91
@PureCountryof91 8 жыл бұрын
robots for guards, no sleep, no weapons to hand out, and a sentry can have 5 ranged weapons, shoulders, arms and head..
@jzargo7443
@jzargo7443 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking it and then you said it. The 2nd one looks like it's from a trench. I was just thinking on how all you'd need to do is give the guard an assault rifle!
@SwedenFreakz
@SwedenFreakz 8 жыл бұрын
You should make an Inn on Longfellow's Island for your settlers to live in!
@walsher86
@walsher86 8 жыл бұрын
Kurva is a great curse in foreign language. It's Czech/Slovakian (possibly Polish aswell). BTW great vid!
@TimboUnderskroll
@TimboUnderskroll 8 жыл бұрын
I get all giddity inside like a lil girl waitin for nsync when I come on to KZbin and see the lil blue dot under your name ....sweet builds Def useing the first one I don't use the cannon thing either I got 2 at the castle and it seems to work anywhere u throw the artillery flare
@illyanayurievnashcherbina6530
@illyanayurievnashcherbina6530 8 жыл бұрын
I think it would be great if you made a video on survival homes. Meaning shelters for survival mode that require the least amount of resources to be functional but still look good.
@drunkbavarian8988
@drunkbavarian8988 7 жыл бұрын
Whit the Junkfences: you need to build the concrete a bit lower than the object!
@purnen
@purnen 8 жыл бұрын
As ironic as it would be I'd love to see the guard posts at the bottom of a tower, or entryway/building/etc.
@BazookaTooth707
@BazookaTooth707 8 жыл бұрын
For some reason when I try doing the rug glitch or the post glitch like you did here, I can't pick up the item but instead I pick up my entire settlement! Lmao
@Hesselgrennr1
@Hesselgrennr1 8 жыл бұрын
i got the 2x1 barn Netfloorpieces to snap to the edge of the guardposts.
@guglielmosepe932
@guglielmosepe932 7 жыл бұрын
14:39 "putaana" LOL (actually it's italian, puttana=bitch), i've spent the all past week wacthing your F4's craft videos, and this moment was better than learning pillars' glich. lol P.s. you made me love junk fences again, so much love
@fy4370
@fy4370 2 жыл бұрын
You're tips are a real live safer when you're into settlement building and playing on the ps4
@FallOut-zm6rd
@FallOut-zm6rd 7 жыл бұрын
you use the pillar method as much as I use the conduit on carpet method
@jconno77
@jconno77 8 жыл бұрын
This is bad ass. I'm going to start doing this now.
@petecalhoun6205
@petecalhoun6205 8 жыл бұрын
Your builds and techniques are great! But when you build... with the pillar, you should place like 10 so you dont have to change menus so often lol :P Not sure if anyone posted that already. I didnt read the comments.
@biostemm
@biostemm 7 жыл бұрын
I really wish they'd have added a simpler guard post object, kind of like how they added the plain shop counters in one of the more recent updates...
@riddarhyttan
@riddarhyttan 8 жыл бұрын
Swedish: Helvete (Hell), satan (guess), förbannat (roughly: damn it), satan i helvete (guess). And for the advanced student: satans förbannade jävla skit. If you put these in a google translate field and swap 'sides' on the languages you'll get pretty decent pronunciations, I was pleased to note, although it might truncate the longer phrases a bit. Thanks for the tips and happy swearing.
@DiscothecaImperialis
@DiscothecaImperialis Ай бұрын
mine is Age of Enlightenment Blockhouses and forts. i haven't done TAking Independent yet.
@arttrombley7385
@arttrombley7385 7 жыл бұрын
The only problem with building on the ground is, if the trespasser gets just a little elevation, You are at a disadvantage, because it's much easier to shoot down than it is to shoot up.
@atlas1916
@atlas1916 7 жыл бұрын
6:02 "it's really good plugging these holes" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
@striderpaul
@striderpaul 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff I've learnt so much, just need more hours in the day now!!! Thank you.
@kevincoderre1787
@kevincoderre1787 8 жыл бұрын
hey man thinks for the videos you are giving me more inspiration to play fallout 4 more, keep up the good work.
@MrTrenttness
@MrTrenttness 5 жыл бұрын
Hey this was pretty cool! Those are some good look'n structures!
@AoEValcar
@AoEValcar 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, if I remember correctly you said you would be downloading mods focused around building in the like. Ik that mods aren't out for PS4 yet, but be careful what you download because apparently there are modders putting code that bricks your console if you do.
@branw1941
@branw1941 8 жыл бұрын
have you done much with Sunshine tidings??? I really don't know where to start with that settlement...
@specrtre
@specrtre Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how painful creating starship is going to be with Bethesda tools in starfield 😂.
@johnspayne6986
@johnspayne6986 8 жыл бұрын
Really like the second design. Reminds me of what we used in Iraq, shame we can't build sand bags though
@norespawns
@norespawns 8 жыл бұрын
with mods I'm hoping to add some sandbags and possibly netting too. It'll look (hopefully) awesome.
@jus0306
@jus0306 8 жыл бұрын
with the second one do you think it would work if when you do the 'great wall of sanctuary' walls, you could pop them in the wall instead of towers at the top? great ideas again Davey!!!
@LastBastian
@LastBastian 6 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to make guards actually stand at their guard post? I mean, in some of my settlements they do, and in others like The Castle they *refuse* to actually man any assigned post. They just stand around in random places, or wander aimlessly. Meanwhile, I can't get anyone to actually watch the entrance!
@vaultdwellinhellion9499
@vaultdwellinhellion9499 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Davey great stuff as always! I really can't wait to see what you do with mods. I'm sure you've had plenty of suggestions, but I think in particular you will like Settlement Supplies Expanded by Ethreon and Snap N Build by ad3d0, snap N build more so for the indoor doorways yay!!! real rooms my dude!!!
@r0ms
@r0ms 8 жыл бұрын
I'll have to try those ASAP. Your first guard posts was great but i would have added a roof, like the one with piece of tissues with the three steel pillars. About the swearing, i really love the Polish's fuck "kurwa". Juste check for kurwa on youtube, you'll know what I mean.
@barryscott9590
@barryscott9590 8 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it won't sink if the pillar isn't low enough.
@nickfriend5401
@nickfriend5401 8 жыл бұрын
Yo get the mode Place Everywhere by TheLich. It allows you to place any building thing anywhere you want so their is no red when you try to place something down only green.
@paedric8132
@paedric8132 8 жыл бұрын
@Nick Friend: Place anywhere will not be an option for console users. It requires a script extender (F4SE) to function. Neither Microsoft or Sony allow 3rd party software to run on their systems.
@paedric8132
@paedric8132 8 жыл бұрын
*Place Everywhere
@nickfriend5401
@nickfriend5401 8 жыл бұрын
+Scruffy Jack crap i meant mod
@nickfriend5401
@nickfriend5401 8 жыл бұрын
+Scruffy Jack but this one youtuber who goes over mods showed it and he said he got it from the mod selection in Fallout
@paedric8132
@paedric8132 8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Friend:The Place Everywhere mod is PC only because it requires the F4SE script extender for functionality. The mod will literally do nothing without it. It will not work on consoles. If I remember correctly, Davey is gaming on a PS4. It is not going to be compatible with his system.
@Giantmonkey112
@Giantmonkey112 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sad I'm not as innovative or creative enough that I can't come up with neat ideas to suggest, ah well, I'll figure something out someday.
@cursedmonkey1033
@cursedmonkey1033 8 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to use posts to plug gaps in junk fences as you describe using a concrete post but when I position it where I want its always red. What am I doing wrong? Cheers man.
@kylecompton-burch2966
@kylecompton-burch2966 8 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video like this (a couple of different styles) for shops?
@p0elaha566
@p0elaha566 8 жыл бұрын
you should look into the mod that snaps junk fences together now that consoles have mods
@johngetthatmoney-doe7824
@johngetthatmoney-doe7824 7 жыл бұрын
You are a building god
@SarDeliac
@SarDeliac 8 жыл бұрын
Why not put the junk fence on a rug first? When it hops up you know it's not sinking, then you can grab the whole mess with the magic wand (pillar). You'll lose the rug but who cares. ;)
@TheBangooman
@TheBangooman 8 жыл бұрын
I use this autohotkey script to do the tricky parts, and it essentially allows you to do anything you want, without having to worry about collision. Greatly recommended mod that works with every version since it relies on autohoykey: Precise Object Moving and Rotating: www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3615/?
@Madmommy101
@Madmommy101 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I learn so much from you!
@michaelmiles2647
@michaelmiles2647 8 жыл бұрын
you can snap to guard posts
@daleforty6561
@daleforty6561 8 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how to use the guard posts with stairs other than concentration camp farms and stand alone things. Maybe a tutorial with those?
@janetlapham3919
@janetlapham3919 8 жыл бұрын
use it amongst a perimeter wall, or put a roof on it for a bunker like outpost.
@daleforty6561
@daleforty6561 8 жыл бұрын
Jerrod Lapham thanks
@fervantfox0351
@fervantfox0351 8 жыл бұрын
Hey why don't you build like a sort of mortar tower made out of concrete
@Sasqmo
@Sasqmo 8 жыл бұрын
I just wish you could scrap that tin shack in Country Crossing
@blackirontrumpus8823
@blackirontrumpus8823 7 жыл бұрын
Give him a rocking chair like on Seinfeld. (20 year old reference, yeah, I'm old.)
@ollielally8753
@ollielally8753 8 жыл бұрын
Why does "scrappy junk bunkers" sound so dirty?
@busybird7149
@busybird7149 8 жыл бұрын
Who would've thought that a pole would be good at filling holes? *ba dum tss*
@isultansultangaliev5852
@isultansultangaliev5852 7 жыл бұрын
None of those collision building glitches seem to be working for me with a fully updated game post Nuka World. Did they fix it?
@jaller698
@jaller698 8 жыл бұрын
Hey davey, a Quick question, what it is your alltime favourite settlement?
@nextarget91
@nextarget91 8 жыл бұрын
how do you select both the pillar and the object itself as one object (pc user here)?
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