Fallout New Vegas big guns build [Start to finish, Very hard, No exploits, companions or chems]

Back at it with the objectively superior game

[@TKsh1]

Shoulder-Mounted Machine Gun is great and stylish, and the Gatling Laser is a powerhouse ever since the first game.

[@Nr4747]

Gatling Laser with a flat crit-chance build is so insanely OP that the game becomes boring, even on very hard/hardcore difficulty. It's crazy cool and a worthwile build, of course, but oh boy . . . Still, when fully-built, it restricts you to light armor because you'll be using the Light Touch perk, making you quite vulnerable and that can add some excitement back.

[@bgggsht]

​​@@Nr4747From my experience light armor gives enough protection, my reasoning being that you're not getting hit by melee enemies (trying not to at least), auto weapons struggle against DT over 15 and it only leaves semi auto weapons posing real threat. With perks, implant and top tier light armor you can get to around 30 DT, with top tier heavy armor you may get around 45-50 DT. The only melee enemies that might be hard to kite are Deathclaws and Cazadores, one piercing through defenses, the other dealing a lot of poison dmg. Heavy armor could be worthwhile if it had any perks attached to it

[@Nr4747]

@@bgggsht Fair enough, makes a dedicated light armor-crit build even stronger.

[@drakevevo3710]

you're a really talented player at fallout and for that, you're extremely entertaining to watch. you have my sub

[@poormansproductions2402]

That really means something coming from Leonardo

[@Cluvey]

@@poormansproductions2402 LMAO

[@sir_justinius]

Tunnellers are actually susceptable to fire damage, so I used the flamer on the elevator part, it was easy.

[@poormansproductions2402]

Good thinking man, had no idea about that.

[@sir_justinius]

@@poormansproductions2402 Well I wasn't sure if the flamer even counted as "big guns" so I didn't want to say the build was wrong or anything.

[@cmc4448]

it was fun being there for the stream, i hope we get more insight on the builds and playthroughs, god speed my man 💪

[@cmc4448]

also whenever you feel like doing another run like this you should go with explosives

[@dreamwanderer5791]

I've been wanting to do a Big Guns build for a while now in NV, and I was waiting for this gem ever since I saw the streams. After thinking about it for a bit, yeah, I can do another NV run. Cheers.

[@NOPerative]

Bout damn time someone showed off the under 200 caps trick with the auto vendors; I been telling players about that for years and they are like enhh. It's repeatable too - sell all that stuff. Get a few early upgrades for E-DE for weapons repair (25% per day) and energy ammo production and some Riot Gear and melt the wasteland a new one. I like equipping Cass with CZ with about 2K AP rounds and some US Army Combat Armor prior to visiting the Van Graphs - it always ends the same - lots of energy weapon loot. Good vid.

[@poormansproductions2402]

I don't do companions, but that sounds pretty good for anyone that does.

[@NOPerative]

@@poormansproductions2402 Nothing wrong with solo runs at all. E-DE and Raul after ed gets upgraded make a badass set of wingmen 4 sure.

[@NobodyDungeons]

Fun fact the standard gatling laser actually has higher DPS than its unique variant if I'm correct.

[@poormansproductions2402]

Indeed, but the unique one is much easier to get.

[@bradycadwell1044]

But the unique one shoots green lasers so I use it 😂

[@MutantCyborg001]

​@@poormansproductions2402it has higher dps because it has more ammo capacity while the unique variant does more damage and is more accurate plus you can change the ammo capacity of the weapon by modding it, i always put it to 120 half of the original to remain lore friendly and not broken.

[@Nr4747]

@@MutantCyborg001 It's fine for the non-unique gatling laser to do more damage since it also requires 2 more strength to use effectively - that is quite a lot and not needed for any other energy weapon, including the gauss rifle and its unique variant.

[@Mr_Cheekbones_]

Not higher DPS, higher sustained damage. Unique has higher DPS even than a GRA modded Gatling Laser, it just has a terrible ammo capacity and long reloads, so you end up outputting more damage over those longer fights with the Standard Gatling Laser. The Unique also has a slightly higher crit chance (technically increasing its DPS), but tbf the difference is so low I don't think it matters.

[@qwopiretyu]

The slappin bass in your vids always makes me smile

[@tacuska7]

My man, this was awesome! :D Thank you for the good tips and tricks!

[@Bjorn54321]

saw a bit of live streams was great. i can already tell this video is gonna be a amazing

[@poormansproductions2402]

Cheers man, really had fun with this one after we polished out the rough spots.

[@Bjorn54321]

@@poormansproductions2402 also btw im not sure if luck is good for big guns in this game but if it is get like 7 and put the 2 extra points into strength

[@Sn0w__L3opard]

I thought I played/knew too much about this game haha. Quality content great video!

[@mindbreakerzzz1]

No chems, and no waiting for level 50 to be strong. This is badass.

[@Nr4747]

Weirdly enough, FNV characters actually tend to get weaker, compared to the scaling enemies, past level 30-36-ish. That's because you'll likely have your entire build with all of the best possible equipment by that point but a good chunk of enemies will continue to scale for around 20 more levels. This is the second, secret, power of the Logan's Loophole trait: It level caps your character at their strongest point (assuming you pre-planned your build to only need a maximum of 15 perks, which is easily doable). Still, not using chems is a massive downside, those are extremely OP, especially with Logan's Loophole + Chemist.

[@SlothSandwhich]

This is my favorite video. I love heavy guns, no matter what game. I main the heavy in tf2

[@chancehosey6570]

Super fun and highly informative thank you so much

[@trenchcoatjoe1891]

It's hilarious seeing the VATS tutorial message in The Divide

[@christianc1302]

The music is badass

[@sam-lr2wi]

i love these fnv zero to hero vids

[@Awuga]

So how much damage does Finesse, Light Touch, and Better Crits actually provide for for heavy weapons? I know automatics have bad crit chance and damage, but even so do you reckon it's still better than to go for other options? I know light touch and laser commander are flat boosts not affected by the automatic's low crit mult so i can def see them being more worthwhile, but finesse and high luck? Feels like it would be lackluster returns, and maybe better invested in AGI for reload and weapon switch speed (which this build seems like it would benefit from). If crit is the right choice, you could take a point out of End and into Int to get it to 7 post implant to meet the prereq for Voracious Reader, and craft you an infinite source of true police stories, and comprehension, to double the strength of them (I would assume you're not counting magazines as chems for the purposes of this build given you used a meeting people to make the Hoover Dam quartermaster perk). Am i missing something or are running below the minimum STR requirements for all the heavy weapons, both with base special and with the rad poisoning for rad child (big fan of that perk choice btw)? I can see the idea of not minding the sway very much but I just want to make sure I understand fully there. Great video, I enjoyed, always love to see good New Vegas content, keep it up!

[@poormansproductions2402]

I had no idea AGI modifies your reload speed. I just went for max damage since that also makes your ammo more efficient even though you might in theory have higher DPS with more AGI. As for the magazines, those would obviously be an improvement, I simply don't care about crafting temporary bonuses, especially when you can pretty easily clear the promontory without min-maxing to that extent. As for the sway, I barely noticed it and it was only relevant when firing at a handful of snipers in Lonesome Road. Rad child makes things much more convenient and I will play OWB only if I absolutely have to and a minor inconvenience won't make me suffer through it to get +2 STR.

[@spiraljumper74]

@@poormansproductions2402I only discovered your videos recently, and I really enjoy them by the way, but I’m glad to see that another Old World Blues hater exists. It’s just like, really boring to me. Meanwhile people hate on Dead Money and I think it’s the most atmospheric and mechanically engaging content in the game.

[@poormansproductions2402]

@@spiraljumper74 Don’t get your hopes up because I dislike dead money even more. I find it so heavy-handed it’s not even funny and I find the lengths they went to to prevent you from hauling all the gold bars (unless you’re sneaking) so they can hammer-in their point ridiculous

[@TheRavenShadowsWolf]

@@poormansproductions2402 I was just gonna say for me Dead Money's the one I won't play if you paid me. I only install it to help the level cap increase, but I'll never touch it. I actually like some of the Big MT, but it can get annoying and was intentionally very hammed up.

[@TheRavenShadowsWolf]

There is a perk that makes you immune to knockdown. You could take that if you're really worried about it. I forget what it requires, so it may not be viable for this build. I tend not to ever play on any difficulty but very easy. I don't need the frustration, or the artificially induced "challenge." There's enough things that can and will rip you apart in the game, no matter what difficulty you play on. Then again, maybe if I wasn't so focused on Unarmed... I'm usually Sir Swiss of Cheese until about level 7-10. Yes, I bring fists to a gun fight, sue me.

[@Jakaup]

Man i got a whole ass PS5 and they gonna give me a ps3 vanilla version that i have to stream 😕. I miss this game dearly, nice vid

[@kaelhazard-4171]

ok... first step is going to Lonesome Road in Lvl 1 is already a mad lad.

[@simons1120]

But doesn't the Shoulder Mounted Machine Gun have a crit modifyer of 0,00 meaning that it cannot ever crit?

[@poormansproductions2402]

Yes, you use it for a while until you get access to the hoover dam merchant and then basically forget about it.

[@BrianLTU]

Or just go to jangdze memorial with good amount of weapon repair kits or caps (so you can repair it) and get a......flamethrower of some sorts i dont remember which. But yh. Get a shovel, dig a grave near Jangdze memorial . Grab it and somehow get it repaired

[@poormansproductions2402]

@@BrianLTU I remember testing this back in the day and I’m pretty sure the loot was randomized

[@BrianLTU]

@@poormansproductions2402 welpp idk but i always gotten flamethrower outta there. One grave has good stuf other shit. Btw its near memorial NOT graveyard

[@wolfsilva5494]

Funny Ron Jeremy background music

[@zodiaccowboy2131]

Fun fact most default weapons are actually better than their special counterpart it just depends on how much you're willing to put into the weapon

[@frankherman9434]

I don't think so... On a Contrary - most unique are better than default. Take for example all weapons from Cowboy perk. All of the unique weapons are way better. Weapons from Grunt perk - same thing.

[@Gamelaha]

Which of the lvl 50 perks would this build go for? I can see arguments for both Thought You Died and Just Lucky I'm Alive, but i can't decide what wins out between a flat damage bonus and a crit damage bonus, lol.

[@poormansproductions2402]

If my calculations are correct, the crit bonus is barely (we’re talking by about 1%) better for laser weapons with the max crit chance of 19%. Considering that ballistic big guns don’t even come close to this crit chance, I’d say 10% more damage is the better choice.

[@НиколайБубнов-ч4х]

Lonesome Road elevator is easy with 2 handed weapon, like Axe or Blade. Even with low level melee weapon knockout tunnellers before they spawn, just spam regular attack in 2 certain points on platform. Try and see)

[@marcpreisler3604]

Atomstaub neues Vegas: großes Maschinengewehr

[@poormansproductions2402]

It gewehrs maschinen

[@pjl5609]

Tactical Reload was crazy 🙈😂

[@jojomahmoud5752]

is this build possible on hard core considering the fact that ammo had weight which will be really annoying when you are carrying thousads of 5mm ammo and ecps? other than that great build this is perfect for my duke nukem role play build and the best thing is you don't beat around the bush and go straight to the point i love it.

[@poormansproductions2402]

Cheers mate, this was played on HXC, that’s why I took strong back, a perk I would consider useless otherwise.

[@jojomahmoud5752]

@@poormansproductions2402 aight then thx mate but i have no dlc so will have to do without

[@nandoxus]

This is some good $hit

[@poormansproductions2402]

efcharisto m8

[@cmath182]

I thought heavy weapons crit multiplier is so low that they can't crit hardy at all, and shoulder mounted machine gun crit multiplier is 0x, am i wrong or no?

[@poormansproductions2402]

You’re not wrong, but light touch is a flat +5% so works with the SMMG. Even a small increase is noticeable when a weapon has a high rate of fire. I’d take the crit increases even if they did next to nothing, it’s the only way to increase your damage other than chems, skills, yao guai meat and maybe some perks that require grinding.

[@harizotoh7]

The build seems a little too focused - I think a 50 Cal Anti-material rifle (which is a big gun in my books) would give better range and sniping. Ditch Energy weapons. You also switch weapons a lot - did you get Quick draw? It speeds up weapon switching and people sleep on it.

[@poormansproductions2402]

That’s the main gimmick with these builds, they aren’t flexible by design. Quick draw sounds good although I don’t think I would take it over a damage upgrade

[@luka2298]

Avenger is the best by a mile if you know what youre doing

[@kylevanbeek2109]

Can you go slower when going over your stats? Like even a few seconds would help..

[@poormansproductions2402]

I think it slows the pacing down too much and you can simply pause

[@Ian-xh6on]

Can anyone provide me the list of perks he gets and skills he upgrades

[@poormansproductions2402]

The perks are usually in the video 2. Rapid reload 4. Rad child 6. Bloody mess 8. Light touch 10. Finesse 12. Strong back 14. Hand loader 16. Better criticals 18. Vigilant recycler 20. Eye for eye 22. Laser commander

[@Ian-xh6on]

@@poormansproductions2402are you able to put ur finished build in the description like how many skill points heavy weapons should be at and what perks or traits ur getting at each level

[@rathapolr.3666]

How long does cripped limb from an eye for an eye last? I have an idea of trying out with playing as tf2 heavy. Because I can't use critical hits , is this an only perk to maximise damage?

[@poormansproductions2402]

The bonus damage lasts as long as you’re crippled. Without crits you’re looking at hand loader ammo, yao guai meat, +10% damage for finishing lonesome road alone, bloody mess and thought you died off the top of my head

[@rathapolr.3666]

@@poormansproductions2402 Thank you! I found out this morning after a good night rest, i can proc limb crippling from beartraps on top of the hills near goodspring source as long as i want as well. As long as i master rearming trap with skill check of course.

[@MarioMario-uy2my]

Whats the song at the beginning with the special skills?

[@poormansproductions2402]

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[@johnherrera5261]

What's the point of crits on guns with no crit damage bonuses?

[@poormansproductions2402]

Light touch and laser commander are both a flat increase so they work even if a weapon has no base crit chance. Even if it did nothing, you are only using the SMMG for a bit until you get a steady supply of 5mm rounds at the dam.

[@mattiasxxxx7096]

Is trigger discipline or fast Shot more useful ?, for this Build and in generel

[@poormansproductions2402]

I don't think fire rate increases are that great with guns so I would pick trigger discipline for the accuracy boost in VATS.

[@Muempier]

how did you get 27 on lockpick at level one mines 22

[@poormansproductions2402]

Turns out skilled is bugged so it gives you +10 instead of +5 if you just rebuild the same character. Shouldn’t affect the build all that much though.

[@JackGoff-s5i]

ever play underrail?

[@poormansproductions2402]

Nah, only played Planescape out of all these old school RPG’s

[@alexanderulyev4651]

This was supposed to be fun!

[@poormansproductions2402]

We don’t do that here

[@nikourba7953]

sorry but how can u have so many caps for ammo ?

[@poormansproductions2402]

Literally just selling Lonesome Road loot. I streamed the whole build so you can check those out for more details

[@g_pyr0]

where's the link?​@@poormansproductions2402

[@poormansproductions2402]

@@g_pyr0 studio.kzbin.infodKvm1xBBjlM/edit

[@PhrogDaz]

Bro does not know auto weapons cannot crit and still insists on using Boone's 1st recon beret.

[@poormansproductions2402]

I’ll bite in case you’re actually serious. Only the SMMG has a x0.0 crit multiplier, the avenger has x0.01 and SW has x0.04. Sure, 0.28 and 1,12 are small numbers, but they’re not zero so why wouldn’t you go for crits when it’s one of the few ways to increase your damage with this gimmick.

[@meropticon_1651]

>No exploits >Uses every cheese strat in the book Hmmmmm....