Fallout’s Vault 4 Horrific Experiments Explored - Why Everyone Is Scared Of it? What’s On Level 12?

[@TowelsKingdom]

"I sentence you to death..... by exile to the surface"

[@kitkatkruncher22]

Shut up jerry

[@kevting4512]

(Everybody Likes That)

[@imgoodaswell9558]

Slice. Slice. Slice. Slice. Slice. We need to get that sharpened.

[@TowelsKingdom]

@imgoodaswell9558 lol funnest moment ever

[@burtonmoore996]

Vault 4 was so wholesome is was giving me diabetes.

[@baadermeinhof9787]

The gulper in the Fallout show looks like an axolotl, a type of salamander from Mexico. They have those spikey tendrils on the sides of their head.

[@hiddendesire3076]

It was confirmed that FO4 and 76 Gulpers are morphed mutated Axolotls, so yeah, it checks out.

[@Moviebuff4084]

Yes, finally, someone knows what it is!!!!

[@hiddendesire3076]

KZbin deleted my comment, but as I tried saying, it was confirmed that the gulpers are morphed, mutated axolotls.

[@burtonmoore996]

But with a throat full of human fingers.......

[@J2982able]

@@burtonmoore996 And human eyes. I don't think this version of the gulper is a mutated salamander, rather one of the experiments from Vault 4, just much further down the evolutionary/radioactive line.

[@ryanhernandez5632]

Once I saw the inside of the gulpers mouth I immediately became suspicious. And considered if it was a animal mutant or a human mutation

[@mayap.4146]

live action centaurs from 1/2/3/NV when

[@vonbennett8670]

It's not a gulper. Gulpers are mutated salamanders (found in game is Far Harbor). This appears to be an experiment using a human and possibly DNA from a salamander. Still not a gulper.

[@ryanhernandez5632]

@vonbennett8670 oh OK. so I guess I should call chimera, mybe river mutants? What do you think we should call it

[@gottagowork]

If it's a gulper, I want to know how it ended up visiting Suffolk County Charter School...

[@Moviebuff4084]

It's not a mutated salamander. It's a mutated axolotl. Look one up on Google if you don't know what it is.

[@captassassin5680]

No disrespect, I swear. But am I the only one that thought Lucy has larger than usual eyes? Seriously, I thought it was a “radiation thing” that the crew just did with CGI. Then I watched an interview with the cast and there she was. Looking into the camera and straight into my soul, everyone’s soul! She is a uniquely beautiful individual.

[@TheMIKEUL]

this show was a nightmare, with the giant eyed girl and the cyclops and the double nose guy... with all the super slowno weird shots and now you're saying that the girl was not CGI...

[@N_3_Z]

She should have played Alita

[@j720playz2]

@@TheMIKEULcancer patient

[@Spectrefox1313]

Said the same thing.

[@41bengal]

I been saying the same thing.. told my wife her eyes are huge like anime characters

[@billcox8870]

Shady Sands was a town in Fallout 2. The gulper was first introduced in the Fallout 4 dlc, far Harbor

[@JohnnyWasabi]

Shady sands is also in fallout 1.

[@billcox8870]

@@JohnnyWasabi I will take your word for it because I never played the original Fallout. I did play Wasteland. I do know that the old woman you encounter in Fallout 2 is from Shady Sands in the original Fallout

[@ericx6969]

Enclave shouldn't even exist anymore

[@jackgould5332]

Yes but is set some time after fallout 4

[@AiColonel]

Are you saying that it’s a retcon in the show? They didn’t start the show around the first or second game it’s set in 2296 some years after the events of 4.

[@C0smicRae]

The funniest thing is he keeps calling those things piranhas when they're actually just tiny baby gulpers..

[@Forcemaster2000]

It would be, "all the way DOWN to level 12". The vaults are underground and the levels would therefore go down in number, not up.

[@The.Cow96]

Maybe in some backward world but here you'd physically be going down but the numbers would probably still go up.... Example would be you start on the ground floor and go down to b1-12

[@aldobanuelos6614]

I think its important to note that the east coast and west coast gulpers aren't the same species being portrayed differently based on its media origin, they are literally 2 different creatures that just happen to have the same name.

[@MegaDman16]

The show only suggested that vault tech was willing to drop the first bomb if the war didn't start. It's still not completely confirmed who started the war but most games point towards China starting it.

[@GaMeRfReAkLIVE]

They also offer the Zetans and Vault Tech up as possible culprits too though

[@NicNacPaddyWac301]

Play fallout 3. Go to megaton. Look at the big bomb. What do you see on the side of the bomb?

[@TitusOfPavis]

I agree with you that the show only demonstrated that Vault-Tec was willing to detonate nukes to start a nuclear war. There are a number of things in the games that indicate Vault-Tec and their partners were caught by surprise when the nukes started flying. In the show itself, I thought a biggy was that if Barb knew that the morning of October 23rd was when things would kickoff, she would have made sure Janey was with her and not out and about with Coop.

[@TitusOfPavis]

@@NicNacPaddyWac301 A red-herring? I always found it unlikely that Vault-Tec would put their logo on their secret bombs. One possibility is a Vault-Tec hater who survived the initial blasts painted the logo on the bomb, maybe with a message no longer visible to "Deliver to Vault-Tec". Another possibility is that a division of Vault-Tec built nukes for the US government. The corporations weren't shy about branding and maybe lots of bombs in the US inventory had Vault-Tec logos on them.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

Vault Tec answers to Enclave. Enclave may be the mastermind.

[@1tiptip187]

The Gulper in Fallout 4 are due to wild animals mutating while show is explained to be human hybrids. Fallout isn't against having different creatures called the same thing if they have a similiar genetic connection and behavior. I mean, if it's a crustation and lurks out of the water to attacke it's likely to be called a mirelurk. Credit to the show that their version of the Gulper is an axolotl as the amphibean base as a nod to IRL use as a lab animal.

[@FishnCold]

Lowkey the safest and comfy vault than 33 and 32, it's even welcome the surface dweller!

[@MrXandrox]

I dont think the woman is giving birth to fish, it looks like she is giving birth to baby gulpers?

[@McShaganpronouncedShaegen]

Was looking for this. They were gulpers she gave birth to that then turned around and started eating her. Messed up scene.. lol

[@technofilejr3401]

@@McShaganpronouncedShaegen Really glad they made that scene grainy and low resolution. That was gross as hell.

[@ShitBagSPC]

No wonder the BOS is xenophobic. I support that 😂

[@earthcoloredeyes5043]

Anyone ever notice that maybe these writers are trying to tell us something. CEO’s and corporations are always Evil!

[@baileybland4497]

It's fallout. Almost everyone is evil.

[@jamesemmitt6456]

Yes. The makers of Pampers and Tonka Toys are plotting to take over the world. 😂

[@earthcoloredeyes5043]

@@baileybland4497 I’m talking about damn near every movie or series, book or fable. Think bigger.

[@earthcoloredeyes5043]

@@jamesemmitt6456 while they secretly fund child trafficking. You laugh as if these things don’t happen.

[@earthcoloredeyes5043]

Ahhh ignorance is bliss.

[@lordchungus4744]

Yea I didn't expect a gulper to look like that but at least i wasn't fully wrong with it being a axolotl since thise are a type of amphibian

[@daviddelisse9712]

An Axolotl is a salamander and as a result, you were spot on

[@burtonmoore996]

...human finger throat silica...

[@jessejamison9516]

Shouldn’t we take note of how the big gulpers have human fingers? That is not just influence by radiation. The Master from the first Fallout game used FEV to combine creatures. I have a theory that The Master is still alive through that ash which the cult is spreading on their faces. This would be a cool reveal and explain the vault 4 citizen mutations. Just a theory though, who knows!

[@jamiehalajian5100]

The Gulper from the Amazon series is a gigantic Axolotl. The tentacles around the head are a dead giveaway of that......

[@naufaldirahmatullah187]

my only question now is why did they worship moldaver? i still didn't quite understand it

[@ThatGUY666666]

From what I can tell, they believe her efforts to gather the cold fusion technology and bring a source of energy can allow them to restore Shady Sands and the NCR. I am not so sure about it but these are obviously highly traumatized people so I can not judge them.

[@Zieksmythe]

They never said outright that vault Tec dropped the bombs, it was of course implied but knowing fallout history, it was China that sent the 1st bomb… but that’s not to say vault Tec didn’t have something to do with creating the environment of global tensions that caused it all.. on top of that, why would barb have let her daughter be away from her at the time of the bombs if they did it?

[@benalmaguer3872]

The design of the gulper for the series looks to pull inspiration from a particular salamander, called the Axolotl🤔

[@daviddelisse9712]

It is as it is a salamander if it is land walking for a long enough time

[@zoverawizo7476]

Overseer of vault 4 is jerry smith from rick and morty😂

[@connordixon3435]

How did I miss that 😂

[@edenzero8064]

Fuck yeaaaa chris parnell is the shit! Hes cecil from archer too!

[@Uldihaa]

All of the ideas for experiments in the vaults where references to actual vaults in the game.

[@jeliarra]

"Thou shalt get side tracked by bullshit every time." AMEN! Dogmeat and the teddy bear flipping, need to see power armor helmet flip and bonked onto head and really hope someone makes a mod of Thaddeus girly scream.

[@perfect.weather5933]

I love Ella Purnell even in Belgravia. Always wanted to watch more of her acting in other series as well.

[@Moviebuff4084]

Gulpers are not mutated salamanders. they're mutated Axolotl.

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

Axolotls are in fact members of the salamander branch however axolotls are highly specialised to their locale which may or may not dry up every so often

[@riflescientist1744]

Hey dippy what's an axolotl? The Laravel stage of salamanders

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

@@riflescientist1744 no there there own salamander.

[@smokeyjoseph1790]

​@@riflescientist1744 bro axalotls aren't insects😂

[@riflescientist1744]

@@smokeyjoseph1790 a larvae is the incomplete metamorphosis of an animal Your just dumb

[@FeganFloop]

So, most likely, the gulpers of the show and fo4 gulpers are convergent evolutions. They look and act the same, but are different species

[@Shovelfish]

How is no one talking about how that guy claimed that they that are only there to help ease the pain of the women yet they keep an emergency harpoon gun and they have alarms in that room for what would presumably used on those women, truly makes it seem like they aren’t done with their experiments just yet.

[@Starborn3000]

when i saw the 2277 in the classroom in vault 4 i started wondering what year they were in nice i knew from the look on lucys face that it was after 2277 but i didnt know how long after thx friend :)

[@hatchetmouth8211]

Am I the only one who has trouble believing the gulper was once human?

[@geigercourtier]

Yes

[@perplexhaze666]

Lucy has anime girl eyes they convey innocence

[@aimee5546]

lucy is a human woman actually. hope this helps

[@lazy-gyal0077]

Now I'm more interested to see the Enclaves role as the villain since Vault Tec is in the spotlight.

[@JesusGonzalez-gz8xu]

I don't fully accept that vault tech dropped the bombs. I get that they said screw it, either the demand is created on its own with the geopolitical situation or we will make it. But I think it's more likely they just greased the wheels until this outcome happens. Think of it this way, that board room meeting with all the big players includes House, and out of all the people there, he's the only one asking questions related to logistics. House is a bit cold and calculating, but he's always made projections on where things are going. Originally, in fallout NV, he started seeing the writing on the walls and made mathematical models to predict down to the day when the bombs will be dropped. And he was only off by 20 hrs in his prediction of when the bombs happen. After the first season, the wiki has been updated to include the meeting shown here but hes already running the numbers by then and if anything now has to account for vault tech accelerating things. So why the hell is he off by 20hrs still ? Vault tech needs these guys around, in the short term for funding but in the long term for what tech they bring to the table. It doesnt make sense for vault tech to just not tell them the day they intend to set things off. And if this is all cannon house being off by 20 hrs make less sense if he already knew of vaul tech's intentions. Its possible vault tech didnt say anything to screw them over but i doubt its possible to pull one over on house of all people.

[@alimfuzzy]

I don't know why I thought this, but i thought they had turned their kids into the gulper. I guess that would mean the one-eyed guy is the decendant of the scientists. Maybe that's why he's so nice, he has guilt and responsibility to run vault 4 well.

[@JP-uf9sh]

On the contrary the one-eyes overseer said that the "gulper" seen on the tape was his relative. His grandmothers brother if I'm not mistaken. None of the scientists survived because the test subjects escaped due to the gulpers killing the scientists. Thus the vault is run by the descendants of the test subjects and the outsiders they have taken in.

[@alimfuzzy]

@JP-uf9sh that still doesn't mean it couldn't be the scientists own mutated kids, the gulper is the boy, the sister could of been normal or also been experimented on.

[@markdicristofaro904]

The longer I live and watch new entertainment? The more disturbing the human race becomes. How far do people really want to go?

[@mangagirlrachel25]

They had teased a super mutant in the same ep, when the ghoul was in the government office there was a wanted poster with one on. I can't wait for season 2

[@soulreaver1983]

Okie Dokie 😁

[@BookofGates]

Inside its mouth are fingers too

[@jessicajohnston5531]

I think it's an Axolotl not a salamander. At least the show version

[@MiraBoo]

Axolotl are a type of salamander.

[@guyeswanson7958]

I can’t catch exhibit B, is the lady playing foozball a cyclops too?

[@mistermatix8241]

That red eyed creature looks like Mark 13 from the 1990 film Hardware

[@FlamingoKicker]

What was the name of Vault-Tec BEFORE they started making vaults? They say in the show the company was around for a long time before the vault idea came along so they must have had another name. Kind of like Captain Hook before his hand got bitten off and he had that hook installed.

[@patkohler9695]

Probably bank vaults

[@mega6076]

Maybe they were just called vault tech then they branded the vaults to be vaults

[@FlamingoKicker]

Why don't the Vaults have sensors (like the Pip Boys) that would detect radiation from the surface (exactly as Lucy's did when she and Monty were in the bedroom)? Wouldn't that large group of "Vault 32" dwellers have set it off or would that have spoiled the fun of them being able to massacre so many people?

[@seanorourke534]

The actual vault 32 residents were dead before the raiders got there.

[@FlamingoKicker]

@@seanorourke534 Why did it take them 217 years for the experiment to "succeed"? We know they were still alive three years earlier when they did the last trade of people.

[@jamieknight326]

Slightly random question. How do you get the footage from the show to play in the background while you talk? Is there an official non DRM source somewhere or does it come from an, erm, unofficial source?

[@kikosawa]

Just torrent it, bro

[@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven]

You think the Master would love to add these people to his so called "Family".

[@maximusmitchell6524]

This sounds like it was an AI generated script

[@karenlbellmont6560]

I recognized the amphibian design immediately.

[@chalaugg]

0:17 WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY EXHIBIT B?????

[@aisnota5192]

Hawthorne. Sounds... REALLY familiar.....

[@karenlbellmont6560]

Looks like a freaking Hellbender.

[@prolibertate4924]

Does anyone know how to use the word “Capitalist” or “Capitalism” properly anymore? How does corporate monopolization fueled by government favoritism equal capitalism which is when the “invisible hand” (aka noninterventionism) controls the market? The fallout universe is fascist more akin to socialist than capitalist. No wonder why socialism is rising in popularity with all this misinformation about capitalism spreading around.

[@ImperialEarthEmpire]

They shouldve tell this truth to her instead of keeping it a secret... however maximus might not want to leave...

[@GhoulishSighs]

It's not definite that vault tec dropped the bombs its still up to speculation and nothing is known for sure at this time

[@arcdecibel9986]

It is definite, I promise you. Before the show ever aired, the writers told everyone that the theme of Fallout was "haves vs have-nots". It never was before, but now the wikis have changed to reflect the new canon. The people who spread that message certainly aren't going to blame Communist China, because they are socialists. And they won't blame the government, because they plan on using it. Instead, they hit you straight in the face with the message they wanted you to get : Vault-Tec started the war. Only corporations are ever the bad guys.

[@michaelmoore7568]

They chose the access for her big dough eyes

[@NightBazaar]

Big dough eyes, like the Pillsbury Dough Boy? Or doe eyes, like a female deer?

[@michaelmoore7568]

@@NightBazaar i don't know where the expression comes from. doe eyes?

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

@@michaelmoore7568 Deer usually females because no antlers stop and stare at oncoming headlights and it meant innocent looking in pre '70's lingo while dough eyed usually meant a girl had a constant vacant expression upon their face.

[@JohnnyWalker-ky6mk]

​@NightBazaar Deer wouldn't need access to eyes made out of bread

[@rickiecomeaux8287]

Its all right bro, no one knows everything. It is doe eyes as in a female deer and Ella Purnell is the actress they chose.

[@karenlbellmont6560]

Twilight Zone (late 50s - mid 60s).

[@co_dy_be_st]

The show Gulpers look more like Axolotl

[@iDaVisionEnt]

This Ai voice tho

[@ButtersCCookie]

It's just a tv show. Governments and corporations love people. Would never put any one in danger.

[@ravenred6878]

True. I truly love corporations. 🥴

[@jbos5107]

@@ravenred6878 We all know corporations are people, right?!

[@johnwhite2293]

You have obviously not been at a board meeting for a multinational corporation, or you wouldn’t say that

[@jbos5107]

@@johnwhite2293 I didn't say it. SCOTUS said it.

[@ALL4ONE5288]

Fiduciary responsibility okie dokey 😮

[@AdamTehranchiYT]

Huh, I haven't seen the show. Did the great uncle make it? Hypercapitalism getting rich off the problems it creates seems legit.

[@hiddendesire3076]

I mean, we see him in a tank that Lucy passes so I assume he’s still alive.

[@hiddendesire3076]

Also, what you are referring to as “hypercapitalism” is Corporatism.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

@@hiddendesire3076 the writers, as per usual, have no idea what capitalism is or how markets work.. ‘We will blow up the world to control the market, and in doing so win the game of capitalism.” The writers have unironically turned Vault Tec into the umbrella corporation…. From Resident Evil…. The Films..

[@firelordprometheus6345]

​@@hiddendesire3076I think the term you're looking for is crony capitalism

[@hiddendesire3076]

@@firelordprometheus6345 No, it’s Corporatism.

[@tomfox9083]

The gulper is more a Axolotl

[@itzbreath6087]

Not me pausing when you said and here's exhibit B

[@jamesmckenna5438]

Can somebody explain exhibit b?

[@johnathantufano8068]

I told my mom that there are 17 controled vaults, vault-tec wanted to specifically want to make sure that their vault's design/Experiments go according to plan. So by the time we get to vault 4 I knew it was one of those control vaults

[@hiddendesire3076]

Except Vault 76 is a control vault, so that doesn’t mean the control vaults are numerically in order.

[@johnathantufano8068]

​@hiddendesire3076 did I say the control vaults where numerically ordered? No I didn't Sherlock

[@Andiethehedgehog24]

It’s not a control vault. They say in show that the experiment was to study the effects of radiation on humans

[@Adam-151]

​@@johnathantufano8068Pretty childish way to respond to someone, How about next time make clear the point of your comment Watson, because if you wernt inferring what the other commentor said why would you "know 4 was a control vault" If what they said missed the mark your original comment makes no sense, other than to let us know what lil factoids you bore your mom with.

[@karenlbellmont6560]

Seventh Level of Hell?

[@vonbennett8670]

This path that Valt-Tech started the war for profit makes no sense at all and really should be abandoned. You don't remain in business when your costumers are all dead; it's a poor business model. Vault-Tech is out of business. Originally it always seemed that Vault-Tech was following the original purpose of the vaults, but added in their own experiments as a side quest.

[@NoFace-ke9pc]

You obviously don't understand the military industrial complex

[@vonbennett8670]

@@NoFace-ke9pc The military industrial complex desires endless wars (like what we have with our current administration) to make endless profits. When you have the Big One, there are no more profits to be made. What happened to Vault-Tech's bottom line after the bombs fell?

[@GaMeRfReAkLIVE]

Theyre not after profit, theyre after power and control? Did you even pay attention to the show lol?

[@Babigoldfish]

Shell knew about global warming since the 60s, and the fossil fuel industry is killing us since

[@deonsteward8736]

Welcome to fallout universe where there's all kind of creatures snd things to your liking lol,

[@karenlbellmont6560]

Sounds like Dulce.

[@dimasdaffa5510]

They sold a lab rat seat

[@unclestinky6141]

(Not first but i'm gonna still say i was)

[@Folfah]

Just stop already. The first thing became cringe long ago

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

When it got to the creepy cult part, and they were chanting "Bring back Shady Sands", I really thought "Oh, so that's how they view original fans". Seriously, even Disney wasn't that petty towards fans of the original Star Wars trilogy.

[@prophetofthe8th]

I swear this TV series is a pregnancy kink, just very weird how much it focuses on pregnant women.

[@pluntchgunster6156]

It sounds like you’re the only one who thought about it this hard…

[@bruhhh2660]

​@@pluntchgunster6156fr 🤣🤣

[@Parallaxus]

Wait til you hear about vaults 68 and 69.

[@venator-fb7yy]

​@@ParallaxusImagine being the only guy in that one Vault! Either their standards will be to high for you or you'll become a victim of death by "snu-snu".😂 (+100 points if anyone gets the reference)

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

@@venator-fb7yyya , I understand that . Long live Futurama !!

[@christoffere425]

Birdie ❤️

[@womanfromthenorth1]

Exibit B?

[@doviangraciano4359]

How would ending trade be a capitalist dream😂😂 this writing is so subverted to fit the agenda 😂😂 Communism would want pipulation control and limited free will

[@PartnershipsForYou]

Fallout is a series that makes fun of all capitalism Cope

[@tylerwalsh7587]

The government is nationalist fascists masking as capitalists. The McCarthyism is strong in the Fallout lore.

[@cassandrabelyeu2419]

Population control and limited free will are part of authoritarianism, which can occur with capitalism , communism, and fascism, but are not restricted to any of them.

[@kassandramarie3789]

Overseer Benjamin is kind of hot not gonna lie

[@briandowell3312]

I can't understand what you mean by exhibit b... black guys can't play Foosball?

[@merlinwizard1000]

9th, 19 April 2024

[@aldobanuelos6614]

Bro really made a "what are the vaults" Section on a video about vaults. Bro we all know what vaults are, geez... its where banks keep their money, next question.

[@nyxnaux]

Ligma

[@alexizdabestPSN]

Vault 4 was dead end story. One of the only disappointing side arcs in the series

[@FishnCold]

Wait the vault dead? I thought it's running again because maximus return the fusion core

[@maydarichoybonov170]

You’re just repeating what has been showed in the show. No extra information gained

[@Call_me_Jim]

Just like your comment.

[@maydarichoybonov170]

⁠​⁠@@Call_me_JimI did not repeat anything said in the show or in the video. Nor I needed to add a new information. The video doesn’t contain self awareness like it hasn’t added new information. I didn’t get anything from it, that I didn’t already know. this video is useless. My comment is not- atleast if someone sees it before watching this video, they’ll be awared that it’s possibly a waste of time. So, I don’t know what you are talking about.

[@TheKB27]

First!

[@The_power22]

First 🎉

[@Folfah]

Beyond cringe. Imagine living such a boring life you live for first comment

[@Folfah]

Plus the first thing became old and cringe long ago. It doesn’t even put your comment on top anymore.

[@xsizzlexster6495]

Well, Vault-Tech only suggested that they will drop the bombs themselves. We haven't actually see them do it or was never confirmed that they did it...

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

No but P.A.M for fallout 4 hinted at her being the one to strike 1st . So maybe Vault-Tech did have a hand in in .

[@hiddendesire3076]

@@kharnthebetrayer1575Except Bud’s comments as a robobrain (or roboroomba) suggest they hadn’t carried out their cleansing yet.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

The fact they suggested it implied that they could or did. Bethesda have unironically turned Vault Tec into Umbrella Corporation from the Res Evil FILMS… ‘We will blow up the world to ‘control the Market!” I swear Hollywood/Silicon Valley writers have no idea what Capitalism actually is…

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

@@hiddendesire3076 true , which still leaves P.A.M .

[@hiddendesire3076]

@@kharnthebetrayer1575 Given the other P.A.M. from 76 named Artemis was fond of conversing with Zax and Modus, wouldn’t be surprised.

[@riflescientist1744]

For all the animal experts who get their knowledge from tiktok Axolotls are the larval stage of salamanders, they arent separate species nor a subspecies of salamander go read a book

[@cassandrabelyeu2419]

Please google axolotls. They are a type of salamander that does not leave the tadpole stage.

[@riflescientist1744]

@@cassandrabelyeu2419 take your own advice and Google what happens when you introduce iodine They'd be a different sub group if they couldn't morph yet for some odd reason one of the number one problem with owning axolotls is them morphing into salamanders

[@cassandrabelyeu2419]

@@riflescientist1744 Morphing them shortens their lifespans considerably. They can morph if they have to, but live approximately ten times as long if you avoid the chemical exposures and environmental conditions that can cause it. Also, sometimes axolotl morphing is caused by interbreeding with types of Salamander that only reach sexual maturity after morphing. This is weird, because only axolotls complete their entire reproductive cycle in the tadpole phase. Pet breeders do this in order to introduce new colors and variations into the hybrid “axolotls” they sell. Hybrids also have shortened lifespans. This is not recommended.

[@riflescientist1744]

@@cassandrabelyeu2419 you realize axolotls are sexually mature in aquatic form right? We as breeders don't mix them with terrestrials they are neotropic breeding with a terrestrial will get rid of their traits lmao Hey what's the definition of larval stage again

[@kriskimber3366]

Anyone else think the monster in vault 4 had something to do with the children of the scientist ?😅

[@kriskimber3366]

That's not a salamander either, it's an axolotl