VTuber Channels Wiped Out, Award Winners Ignored, Ninomae Ina'nis Returns, Ceres Fauna's Surprise

[@bigalzo5311]

Since the CEO is a vtuber now ban him until he fix his sh..

[@ectothermic]

If only you could ban staffers from your chats.

[@smaragdwolf1]

it would be sooooo funny, if they ban their own CEO and the one responsible gets ordered to explain it in the office of the CEO, in person, with HR and the Company Lawyers in the Room xD One thing is clear...... the VTuber Community will keep an Eye on that Account.

[@Fluffy-w2v]

Time to wait for the A.I. auto banned to strike him, I guess....

[@greed-1914]

@smaragdwolf1 Sir, your account is banned. Why? Because ToS. No really. Why? Uh....

[@ScruffMcGruff86]

“Deceptive practices”

[@1100MC]

Speaking of Twitch Ls, Vedal987/Neuro-Sama just had their subathon start today and Vedal said that twitch denied his front page request in favour of Mr. Beast and his Beast Games launch which had 10k+ less viewers than Neuro's stream for the duration of Mr. Beast's stream.

[@arashiuchiha1591]

Oh I am so happy to hear Mr. Beast is finally falling off.

[@luka188]

That's hilarious, even with the front page buff he still took a massive L compared to Vedal. Maybe twitch will reconsider who they cater to next time.

[@DrMitharos]

Front page is practically meaningless unless you’re doing a sponsored stream anyway. Sponsored streams sit on the front spot of the carousel no matter how many times you refresh the page - everyone else gets crumbs while the sponsored stream feasts

[@Id_k_]

Great to see more people on Neuros stream

[@spk1121]

Tutel keeps winning! ✨🐢✨

[@greed-1914]

KZbin leaving enforcement to a program, pretending to review it, and then vaguely saying it was ToS is very on brand. I get that there is so much out there that they have to use programs to monitor it, but they MUST allow a human to override it. So many of these enforcement are blatantly wrong that anyone who actually reviwed it can see it.

[@christopherdark4671]

Then you get people who do review it but are biased or corrupt so people get banned anyway. Just look at what happened to MxR and all their accounts and even fan clip accounts.

[@Chas-OTE]

This seems to be the main case for youtube. They're just leaving everything to AI unless you're one of the really big streamers/content creators.

[@InfernusdomniAZ]

Most of these are human reviewed and declined anyway. Its probably 10 times as much work to reinstate or fix an error rather than just hit decline appeal. Almost all business have a incentive to get through work as quickly as possible when your job is to review appeals and your job depends on numbers you just hit declined.

[@KiffgrasConnaisseur]

It´s bonkers that they don´t even bother to manually handle those kinds of requests. I get it´s expensive but Google makes so much crap tons of money, it should be easy to do. They just don´t do it because they don´t need to. The moment this stuff gets enforced by law, they´ll comply.

[@velocitasfortis]

For a human to override it, a human would first need to even look at it. There is no 'team' behind Team KZbin. It's all bots now. All decisions final, all appeal responses are fake. Only massive public uproar gets a person to actually take a look - and it's not even someone whose job it is to do such things, it's some rando from another department.

[@Lunk42]

Why does KZbin kids even exist as a separate app when KZbin forces everyone to essentially treat the og like KZbin kids?

[@Blackwing2345635]

Because YT kids is even stricter?

[@Wiziliz]

​@@Blackwing2345635 That doesn't answer the question

[@uhagi6720]

The absolute irony is that you can easily find an insane amount of fetish content on KZbin Kids, even more than the normal app, all being directly pushed towards children.

[@domschra]

Ad money

[@Rodoet001]

Because where else are they going to put all the p0rn if not the youtube kids section? In the regular space? Don't be ridiculous, that's where all the advertisers are! (That's not a joke, btw. There is still stright up n*dity and s*xual content in the youtube kids section to this day and youtube doesn't seem to be in any hurry to remove it. Most of it involves comics and cartoons so it often automatically gets flagged as youtube kids content because of that.)

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

Twitch & KZbin aren't beating the VTuber hatred allegations.

[@kyuven]

KZbin at least is consistent. They specifically go after ASMR vtubers and it's so clearly algorithmic it's kinda depressing. Twitch just has someone on staff with a hateboner.

[@christopherdark4671]

They aren't even trying to beat the allegations. They don't need to. They have no competition.

[@liladoodle]

I think Twitch & KZbin know they hate Vtubers, they just don't care.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

​@@kyuventhey're definitely not consistent

[@philtkaswahl2124]

KZbin's problems are more that it leaves things to automation that'll go Terminator even on false positives, and getting an actual human to pay attention is an exercise in frustration (and even if you find one, no guarantee they'll care unless you have money and lawyers). Twitch, though, has a lot of things that just scream of the human staff themselves playing favorites.

[@RaccAttack77]

Laimu getting claimed by another creator, not even the game dev/publisher, is WILD. They really need to start punishing these kind of scumbag ‘creators’ just as harshly as they punish innocent creators

[@anotherfriendlyshikikan6960]

Honestly, 40k’s use of humans as computers is starting to sound more effective than what yt and twitch has now

[@vxicepickxv]

Somehow, a creator I watch who is a part time vTuber is, according to KZbin, the owner of all of the smash bros ultimate trailers.

[@ExplosiveTeddies]

Dude was definitely hoping she'd name him for some free publicity.

[@Lowlightt]

I was claimed by a rapper who made a cover of a song from a game I was streaming lol. The whole system is broken and its on purpose.

[@poxy1511]

Over-automation of both Twitch and KZbin has really put Vtubers in a risky position - they may, at any point, have their channel and content unfairly removed by unchecked, automated systems and told that they can never, ever create content again. This destroys the whole Twitch and KZbin streaming and content ecosystem - what's the point of making what you love when it can be rug-pulled at any point?

[@citizen_grub4171]

It's not just risky for Vtubers. It's risky to create content of just about *any* sort, unless it's directly aimed at children.

[@vxicepickxv]

​@citizen_grub4171 content aimed at children is also ineligible for monetization, but they're going to run ads on it. KZbin wants free labor for their servers.

[@vxicepickxv]

There was another creator who combined 6 videos that were monetized already on KZbin who had their combination video hit by the adult content stick. He also censored it more than the still up original monetized videos.

[@idrathernot_2]

They want you watching transgender makeup channels and BLM videos instead

[@StochasticUniverse]

This is the point at which one could point out that standard market theory dictates that this problem should be self-correcting, because once people actually DO stop streaming on these platforms for fear of exactly what you say, the platforms will start to lose the content that allows them to derive 100% of their profit, and they will then be forced to undertake corrective action. The problem with that is: how many creators' lives will have to be destroyed before we get to that point? Breaking eggs to make an omelet has a certain dispassionate logic to it...unless you're the egg.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

glad to know that both Twitch, & KZbin still continue to show their dedication to punish people for daring to use their platforms i wish them a very Nijisanji Christmas

[@Spellya]

Things might look grim but at the very least your sense of humor still got me laughing That was a good one pal hahaha

[@oh_sweet]

My god, youtube needs to hire more than 3 real people to keep the bots in line, this might be the worst it's been so far

[@randomka-52alligatorthatis34]

They'll just outsource it to another company in India or Eastern Europe lol

[@EsperHubb]

That costs money. If they are this lazy to let a machine do it, thinking that they'll do smart ideas that'll create jobs and have bolster their platform is fanfiction at this point. Not to dig at you, I'm on board with that idea but the reality is that requires resource that they are already skimming off in order to maximize profits... which I am sure they are not getting much of still IIRC.

[@eergegerg23]

@@EsperHubb but every such ban potentionally costs thousands dollars of lost profit monthly for YT.

[@EsperHubb]

@@eergegerg23 You're right, now if only YT and T realize that by now...

[@matasa7463]

Nah, from the looks of it, even their actual staff that does the real work are getting replaced by chat bots. Shit's wild...

[@FuyukiVA]

No one is safe in the niche :( .. Makes it feel like the only option is just be ready to jump ship or be on as many platforms as possible, so when one goes down to just naturally migrate to the other.

[@idrathernot_2]

This. At this point there is no reason to not be on at least eight different platforms. KZbin, Twitch, Billibilli, Rumble, Bitchute, Vimeo, Kick, Nico Nico and anything else you can find.

[@GingerSid]

Something is not working right with the detection bot it seems, even more so this month. I really just wish youtube would feel and talk more like a human.

[@speedstick8981]

I honestly think it’s intentional because it’s December and this is how they “save money” and say “oppsie daisy”

[@realNoMee]

It's actually comical how incompetent these companies are. All it takes is replacing a face cam with a moving png and suddenly these platforms have a stroke and just can't comprehend how to handle it. Twitch has minimal issues covering other streamer awards and whatever other PR shit. But the moment it has a cartoon face they lose the ability to do the most basic tasks.

[@alzhanvoid]

It's like AI with bee pictures.

[@andrewsd.r.7180]

Twitch really be doing one step foward, ten steps back

[@Monte_Carlo451]

One step forward, cartwheeling backwards

[@BoostedMonkey05]

One step forward, one step into a ditch

[@Artista_Frustrado]

at this point Twitch is basically Backdashing instead

[@skrubknight884]

i used to wonder why Hololive had so much red tape in regards to everything they did, after seeing how often content creators get strikes bans and video removals with silence on the other side, i don't wonder why anymore.

[@Shihir0]

or TP to start point

[@Monte_Carlo451]

Twitch ceo:"so i became a vtuber" Vtubers:"so you are gonna take care and not hate us?" Twitch ceo: 😏

[@donnycorn3086]

something tells me that it's more of the Twitch moderators' fault and not (just) the CEO.

[@ectothermic]

@@donnycorn3086 history and research has shown they're all in cahoots anyway.

[@dawnseeker176]

@@donnycorn3086 then he needs to say it drag them into the light of condemnation. otherwise he has no defense

[@Monte_Carlo451]

@@donnycorn3086 so the ceo has no say? I mean he is the ceo and he has a say on what's going on but if he is letting things happen right in front of him, i dont think it is not not his fault.

[@donnycorn3086]

@@Monte_Carlo451 well, Susan Wojcikci, former CEO of KZbin, was not entirely behind all the decisions to make KZbin this way, but the current CEO and then-executive of the platform just behind Susan. At least, that's MoistKritical's takeaway from that situation. Charlie's also the one to say that he knew Twitch's current CEO as close as a friend and he's a pretty good guy himself. That's why I have conflicting thoughts about the CEO and the company themselves. It's likely Charlie, Moistkritical lied (since that time he praised Mr.Beast on the TeamSea campaign), and Twitch's new CEO isn't that good of a man themselves, but if it actually is what I think it is, then it's not the first time either. Not every CEO has all the power to control a company due to their own company structure and culture.

[@SatoshiKenji]

What infuriates the most is both Twitch and KZbin is easy to slap bans, but their user service is so disconnected with their users. Even some of VTubers already explaining their circumstances, yet it seems like it just passed through air wall.

[@EsperHubb]

This kind of obfuscation is the platform's way to safely discriminate with out being blatant about it. It's written in a way to be so vague that it that makes any kind of excuse valid to drop bans and quickly write it off as the final decision... which they seem to have an automated process to facilitate that.

[@kyuven]

KZbin's twitter account is being run by an AI bot. That's the only explanation for these tweets.

[@Rogue-a-Pogue]

But I didn't notice the word or any anti-tutel rhetoric.

[@AlfredEiji]

@@Rogue-a-Pogue B/c their twitter A.I. is not based like Neuro-sama.

[@BlackTempleGaurdian]

Nah, an AI would actually respond to what's said, this is just an automated reply script.

[@TheKing_1986]

Another odd thing I just noticed while watching a stream on Twitch, if you mute during an ad and then unmute when the ad is done, it replays the ad, each and every time…

[@shun-li8204]

Just mute the whole pc through system volume at that point.

[@NewXToa]

Firefox lets you mute specific tabs at the browser level (instead of through the video player), may be worth trying out

[@anotherfriendlyshikikan6960]

Sounds like we need to sow the mouths of some people at twitch

[@domschra]

Brave browser is your friend I normally dont like adbl0ckers, but youtube and twitch have been pushing out double 15 second ads every 15 minutes or video start

[@Hopefighter]

​@@NewXToa This. Chromium browsers let you do that too

[@Kaizen_KyranTTV]

Just an hour ago, MotherV3 also got banned on Twitch with EbikoShrimp having her entire channel on KZbin removed after a single strike

[@MementoMori7777]

Mother got banned?! For fucking What?!

[@RolandOnnaRiver]

In before the CEO of Twitch accidentally bans himself from Twitch for violating the secret "being 2D" policy.

[@RannXXV]

Twitch and KZbin outsourcing 90% of their moderating to AI and the other 10% to Reddit-tier mods.

[@flimsyfishyyt]

Change that to 99 and 1 and it's a bit closer to reality.

[@idrathernot_2]

SAAAR DO NOT REDEEM

[@StochasticUniverse]

I'm pretty sure it isn't 90% Ai. I think it's more like 99.99% AI. And the only reason it isn't 100% is because the top brass want to be able to legally say "we have a team of bots and humans" to sound more respectable, which they couldn't legally do if it were all bots. They have like one token human named Toby in the back, who plays with wooden blocks all day and stares at birds out the window, while the AI runs the rest of Google's empire (poorly).

[@ciphereal]

Ina's back!

[@gurugurumawaru7869]

And the takodachis will celebrate with a picture of Ina's back

[@Weird_Alchemist42]

Yeah and Ina has returned from visa issues too.

[@MICHAELTUMANGDAY]

Her Visa issues taken care of? That's great news if yes.

[@StochasticUniverse]

@@gurugurumawaru7869 well played, sir

[@BlueLoveYT]

Suisei is my favorite Twitch streamer 💙💙💙

[@mariobrandanltl8597]

Suisei wins the award sponsored by twitch and FuwaMoco wins the main award, I think that including them is not a problem. Tagging them incorrectly is a big mistake and not including other winners is a debatable problem

[@hollow314]

YT and Twitch compete to see which one is worse

[@Xankoshu]

KZbin has investigated its copyright procedure and found no wrong doing

[@pat_of_the_ruins7169]

I was kinda flustered when False's hand popped out

[@Lukos0036]

Twitch and KZbin should be sued. The only thing they respect is a team of lawyers bringing them a class action.

[@Hieronymous_Flex]

If you sue Google and Amazon, you're going to lose. They can throw infinite money at the problem until it goes away. There's no realistic way to hold them accountable unless the government gets involved, and they won't.

[@Grassie_D9938]

It will build up. I'm not sure when it will all topple down [to that point], but it will eventually at this rate. We need to be aware of their mistakes.

[@StochasticUniverse]

@@Grassie_D9938 Arrogance cries out for humbling and they have been incredibly arrogant in their power. Some form of comeuppance is inevitable.

[@rexthewolf3149]

@@StochasticUniversenot really the only entities that would ever sue KZbin and not immediately keel over from legal fees are other billon dollar companies and governments and since they get preferential treatment by yt and twitch that won’t happen

[@lolly_cone]

supposedly ai was the solution in stopping malicious uploads from spreading. Yet unfair regulation discriminates against "cartoonish" avatars. the community guidelines still rely on the system having its channels completely struck down. those same ai bots let live stream content to bypass the filter for similar themed content.

[@SadKaladin]

4:41 I was watching one of Cottontails asmr videos right before bed and during it the audio suddenly cut out and I look back at my phone and it said that the video was no longer available. I refreshed and tried to find it in my watch history and that’s when I saw her ASMR channel got nuked while I was actively watching. I was just trying to go to sleep KZbin!

[@irystocrattakodachithatmooms]

The bot on KZbin needs serious fixing with false flagging and removal of comments for no good reason.

[@Gwynsladle]

People who got banned indiscriminately need to file an actual Class Action Lawsuit to actually get a reply from KZbin at this point

[@landmark555]

a CLASS ACTION lawsuit is *needed* to YT & Twitch. they need to be held accountable and *pay up* for all the damages they caused and keep causing

[@LightningRunner]

I can't imagine vtubers coming together for a court case like that since that would require revealing their IRL names/addresses/etc. Maybe it could be an agency doing the legal action? That way less confidential info is "leaked" to the public

[@howlphantomwolf]

Looking forward to another year of TVS! Assuming KZbin doesn't copyright strike FalseEyeD for stealing content from FalseEyeD, of course.

[@k0mmand]

You're not just punished for being a VTuber in those platforms. You're being punished for being in those platforms in the first place.

[@koidayo]

Big lawsuits for both KZbin and Twitch are inevitable at this point. It's just a matter of time.

[@rexthewolf3149]

Not really, unless they piss of government or private company no content creators is going to bite the hand that feeds them.

[@konnen7354]

If expired milk was a person, it'd be the Twitch CEO.

[@PhantomOverlordX2]

Just shows no matter the site. Automaited bots are failing hard.

[@IshimurA99]

Vtubers being respected is like Twitter being the "cleanest" place in the world, it's very difficult for this to happen 😢

[@celarts5752]

Tbh, with the ridiculous takedowns on both Twitch and KZbin I wouldn't be surprised if they're using an AI model or somethin to review everything instead of having an actual human look it over

[@baul997]

Well that is pretty much known now

[@immortal_shrooms6757]

With all that money you'd expect it to be a good AI model, not some shitty one they made in a cave

[@Sargewithnumber]

They are a massive corporation. Of course they will use it to try to save money

[@moamarmohammad5165]

the CEO of twitch as a Vtuber looks like that villain from the sumeru story quest.

[@ectothermic]

This reminds me of being an intern, messing up on one thing, and panicking to overcorrect and messing up in a few other things. I was an intern though, not a billion dollar company with a track record for shamelessly and arbitrarily banning some of the people who won awards at this very show! KZbin is its own magical shitshow. These companies won't change until there's real consequences.

[@Ser0z]

Im ngl i dont care how fucked up it is to say the ceo getting shot was how far the average person has to go to get through to these fuckers i shouldn't have get to that point but if youtube hq gets shot up or some shit i cant say ill feel sympathy

[@Dominion-Regalia]

Wow Twitch really pulled a "how do you do fellow kids" didn't they?

[@AngelavengerL]

Yay! Thank you so much for bringing a highlight to Jowol! He's such an awesome character designer and hilarious streamer (chats divorced dad)! The twitch and youtube L's are getting out of control. It's gotta be so frustrating to get those stupid automated tweets from them when it's obvious no human actually read the tweet. Layna's new chibi is so cute! And a Vex, shoutout hell yeah! Sunny and Mogu are awesome peeps, if you aren't already following them, people, please do!

[@SourMnMs]

I bet the Merryweather thing is just like what happened to Penguinz0's ESports team

[@Sargewithnumber]

More than likely. Still insane how it all work and how it's impossible to sue them so you legit can't do shit. A lot of thing need to change

[@madphantompixels6478]

Ebi banned and grifters like DSP get protected. Make that make sense.

[@GbrBy]

It’s bad faith moderation. YT should have section 230 protections revoked

[@professorpenne9962]

they want him around because even game studios make fun of him lol. nothing they could do, they did everything correct.

[@HiroKonobu]

See also LowTierGod, he's protected too.

[@Craze961]

Gotta end this year with a bang 💀

[@raptros_]

time to retain legal counsel and start sending letters

[@ameruu29]

seeing false's hands feels like a medieval man looking at woman's ankle for the first time

[@TealVT]

his previous 3d model had hands too! it's been a while tho haha

[@AoristChrono]

I hope Haruka all better now, looking forward to her stream later when she comeback

[@hunterking6033]

Apparently KZbin and Twitch are worse at determining fraud than crypto bros.

[@yoman8027]

"Ina's back" I see what you did there.

[@wolflordkanan9720]

How have KZbin and twitch not be sued in a class action for their bulkshit?

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

Someone needs to actually file charges and most people don't want to fight the big companies.

[@immortal_shrooms6757]

We need to find a way for big corporations to be contested by individuals instead of just having the richer side always win

[@rexthewolf3149]

@@immortal_shrooms6757that’s not how the world will ever work.

[@TallulahSoie]

KZbin rules are vague on purpose. It's about selective enforcement. They target you if they don't like you. And as everyone else has said yes most of it is automated and if a human is involved it's someone who is in a sweatshop in India who can't understand English and doesn't understand context. Refusing reviews is easier so that's why it's the default. Vtubers have needed an exclusive platform for 4 years. It keeps getting worse.

[@skywalker6119]

This is why alternatives like Rumble matter. Even if it's livestreaming audience not quite there yet, archiving VODs on Rumble would at least give people a backup in case YT or Twitch unfairly bans them.

[@Sargewithnumber]

I feel the reason so many vtuber are getting struck by youtube is because they most likely started putting the stupid Ai in their moderation tool, which make a shitton of mistake. I am honestly getting so sick and tired of youtube completely abusing creator that poured hour of their lifes to them.

[@TouKongHang]

We need to get rid of the current CEO of KZbin and actually put someone who cares about the content creators.

[@mandy8558]

The passport issue happened with a UK rock band too (Caskets). They had to move or cancel several scheduled concerts while waiting for the US to approve their passports.

[@LordryuRevived]

This year is proving to be not only the best year so far for V-Tubers in terms of big success (Ironmouse in particular) but also possibly the roughest year as well because of stuff like this.

[@VGJustice]

Seeing how many Vtubers are getting kicked off the platform without any way of appealing the decision is a primary reason why I don't want to upload videos to KZbin.

[@user-jw2it4qf2r]

How have the largest service providers in the content creation industry become bogged down with this much incompetence in the past few years?

[@Blackwing2345635]

No direct competition, no consequences for slops. It is an easy question.

[@rexthewolf3149]

@@Blackwing2345635nah the actual answer is that most of these instances aren’t even drops in the bucket.

[@gamejedi]

No mention of Neuro-sama's 2nd birthday subathon OR the debut of her new model OR the debut of her new original song LIFE.

[@meakimon]

Thank you for your hard work False and team! God jul og godt nyttår fra Norge!

[@EvilDeath66X]

This feels like a coordinated attack on VTubers as a whole by the streaming platforms.

[@FreedomIII]

I thought this was going to be a few vtubers getting banned...and then the names kept comin, and kept comin, and what the fuck, YT needs to be reigned in 🤬

[@nonenoninomae]

Twitch wanting pro-terrorist fleshtubers instead of wholesome vtubers is disgusting.

[@FutureAIDev2015]

It's pretty clear by this point that twitch is actively trying to implode.

[@FutureAIDev2015]

It seems leaving TOS enforcement decisions to a crappy classification model is a colossal mistake for these companies. Go figure... is it based on a poorly written regex?

[@markkoo]

mori mentioned let's gooooo

[@Eedra]

Screw youtube and twitch... I wonder if having a purely vtuber platform would be feasible at this point.

[@rexthewolf3149]

It wouldn’t work as it would isolate them from the rest of content sphere which would limit growth.

[@StochasticUniverse]

13:18 Lol, Anilive actually touts the fact that some people made $2,000/month as proof that their platform is capable of giving people a "sustainable" living in content creation? In whose universe is $2,000/month a sustainable, livable wage? Maybe if you live in the Philippines, but not in any advanced country. You wouldn't even be able to pay your bills on that unless you had a bunch of rommates. What country are these people from that they think that 2k a month is a livable wage? The Taco Bell down the street from me pays better than that.

[@Kolljak]

The random ban waves are the reason why i don't return to twitch or KZbin. it feels too unstable of a career. I will stick to testing adult games for crashes and bugs.

[@Lillett_Realityapp]

I would like this job too please 😂

[@piecheese1214]

You know, I had wanted to become a vtuber. Shit like this is making me seriously reconsider being a content creator at all.

[@Ai_M3talloidX7]

It's beyond baffling that Twitch doesn't tap into their pool of artists on the platform. It shouldn't be hard to commission someone. Also Twitch had emotes that were removed for some reason and I don't know if it's to do with legal rights and whatnot but at least having those back is better than the alternative of using AI art. Props to Nyanners for pulling a Thanos.

[@davidaskewii8105]

Have a happy holidays, merry Christmas, and happy new year, to False and the TVS crew 🎉🎉🎉

[@HazZzur]

It's clear from those responses that they have fully automated their banning system and don't have enough staff to deal with appeals, so they auto reject everything.

[@roxrose8584]

Happy Holidays TVS! 💜💜💙

[@reiuji_utsuho]

KZbin is deploying a ton of half-baked dogshit AI-powered features like mistranslated auto dubbing of videos and titles (which sometimes turns back on on its own when you turn it off), so I would not be surprised if their moderation is also AI-powered and will continue to flag random stuff with no rhyme or reason.

[@watergood664]

This is why we multistream. No one's going to want to sign an exclusivity contract with a platform that simply can't be trusted.

[@Aperson439]

is it me or does the twitch ceo debuting as a vtuber feel like the company is trying to deflect away from the fact that it hates (and continues to hate) vtubers.

[@Khaltazar-2024]

I don't see what is so hard about giving staff a separate application with a queue of flagged channels for manual review and that same queue having an appeal request for a 2nd person to review. Not allowed to hard ban someone until two different humans clicked ban and a 3rd human supervisor clicking confirm to confirm the ban or override to override the other 2). I don't know how many channels get flagged per day, but I don't see them needing more than a dozen humans doing verification to keep up. Also, there should be another queue for frequent false reporters to ban them instead like FFXIV does.

[@MementoMori7777]

Ok KZbin you're really pissing me off with this crap, bots running rampant harassing everybody, People getting banned for the dumbest reasons and getting put on hold by Staff that don't give a crap to Repair damages, FIX YOUR SHIT!

[@darkizerjr8976]

fuwamoco is based lmao. got promoted by twitch, promoted youtube instead.

[@hello_alpine1693]

At this point it feels like the only thing that will make KZbin or Twitch change their ways is the threat of legal action. And I don't mean from one person that might not be able to handle the legal fees, I mean a big player like Cover Corp. That seems like the only option

[@TheSilversepiroth]

Being able to enforce the rules however they deem is *_WHY_* the rules are so vague in the first place. Anybody whose politics don't agree with those of the people running these "platforms" understand this all too well. The only difference is that they're only getting more vague so more people are getting caught in the crossfire

[@K311WasHere]

its only a matter of time before more streaming services pop up offering a better experience than youtube

[@hoppy8008]

That won't be for a while, because streaming sites are expensive to run.

[@luckytanuki5449]

​​@hoppy8008not just expensive, they literally do not turn a profit at all unless you pull a kick and take gambling money sponsorships, but then I don't think you can advertise to a younger audience if you do. Pretty sure both twitch and youtubes livestreaming services are running in the negative. OOnlyreason they keep it up is because the power of a monopoly is a high incentive.

[@christopherdark4671]

The overhead for streaming is astronomical. KZbin and Twitch both would have gone under if not for the massive companies behind them. Google and Amazon. So unless Disney, Microsoft, Nvidia, or someone around their size steps up, it ain't happening. That's why they can be incompetent big*ts out in the open because they know they have no true competition.

[@EsperHubb]

Unless they were in the works 5 years ago, it is not happening unless the tech for encoding stops scaling up and starts optimizing more for easier to manage file sizes. The fact that even Microsoft botched it with Mixer of all things still has me flabbergasted.

[@luckytanuki5449]

That's not happening. Streaming sites run at a loss of revenue. Only reason yt and tw still operate them is because they have money from elsewhere to cover it.

[@TehFoamy]

And then youtube followed up with Cottontail today by rejecting her appeal without even elaborating on what it was that made them take down her video and delete her channel in the first place 🙃

[@rukaerika]

Thanks for the news false and all the best!

[@Blex_040]

9:15 Popo is a German slang word for butt, I guess that's what the KZbin algorithm recognized... but how are you supposed to avoid stuff like that?

[@astro_continental]

Nice I got my daily vtuber news

[@icewolf9067]

Anybody know a site like youtube that's not subscribe star, kick, or party? I'm ready to support creators on another site.

[@GameVeteran86]

I hope they file a class action lawsuit against KZbin one of these days.

[@Ganein19]

When is the class action suits going to happen?!

[@KandiKid87]

WOW YT and Twitch absolutely assassinating good vibes.

[@etilworg]

My theory about ASMR content: is banned because word are tested VS all languages availables on google, one word that is a insult in afrikkans raise flags and you get striked

[@faceless4821]

Why are youtube and twitch sooo fast to terminate the wrong People but ignore the ones that should be banned to hell

[@KiazaKadaj]

youtube has left moderation to AI for years. always has been a severe issue with them and they still haven’t changed nor will ever change. it’s very annoying.

[@Blackwing2345635]

The thing is - it is slowly getting worse with appeals.

[@GLUFSAREN]

Twitch and KZbin will never get this stuff right.

[@Zhortac]

Google and Amazon are clearly competing to see who can have the most braindead video streaming platform

[@kevlarandchrome]

Someone with a law license needs to start filing class actions lawsuits against this site.

[@MikaelaExtra]

To be fair, twitch people most likely bathtub stream enjoyer and dislike whathever vtuber is

[@Pewafamath]

Dude I try to watch a YT stream and buffer crash buffer crash reload, browser switch chat froze. They are actively competing to be the worst option.

[@noodle2098]

hand movement 0_0 whoa