Sonic The Hedgehog (2006) - Just Bad Games

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@GB_256
@GB_256 Ай бұрын
“Ah, surprised it took this long for them to finally do a Just Bad Games episode on this ga- THREE HOURS???”
@femboy-gardevoir
@femboy-gardevoir Ай бұрын
By the time the video ends, Sonic '06 will still be loading
@unscblackbeltgi5893
@unscblackbeltgi5893 Ай бұрын
That was just about my reaction lmao
@B0risTheBlade
@B0risTheBlade Ай бұрын
GET OUT OF MY BRAIN
@JamesTDG
@JamesTDG Ай бұрын
And yet, here we all are, binging the whole damn video!
@TubeMaster2008
@TubeMaster2008 Ай бұрын
Even AVGN couldn’t review this game for that long?
@DeTrollyEye
@DeTrollyEye Ай бұрын
Random fact. The game had so many loading screens and they were so long that a youtuber named Lythero beat sonic adventure 2 hero story by playing it every time sonic 06 was loading
@leviticusprime4904
@leviticusprime4904 Ай бұрын
Best part is that he wasn’t even rushing the sa2 either.
@RavenKnight638
@RavenKnight638 Ай бұрын
That video was so good, glad to see a more thorough coverage of it from these guys though!
@AidenPlayzGames
@AidenPlayzGames Ай бұрын
That was so awesome to watch when the video came out
@synonym1196
@synonym1196 Ай бұрын
I watched an early Let's Play of this game where a group tried to play the whole game without stopping (except for a sleep break), and they examined their footage to see how many loading screens there were. In their raw footage, load screens comprised roughly *10%* of their videos.
@RallyPointGamers
@RallyPointGamers Ай бұрын
Link to the video?
@whattowatchwednesdays
@whattowatchwednesdays Ай бұрын
When you guys tried making sense of the "secret to the flames of disaster", it reminded me of Kronk from Emporor's New Groove. "Ah yes. The secret. The secret to the Flames of Disaster. The secret with the keys. The miracle gems. The gems that are the key to the secret of the Flames of Disaster. The Chaos Emerald. The Chaos Emerald that is one of the gems that's the key to the secret of the Flames of Disaster. The Flames of Disaster..." Hearing that in Kronk's voice sure makes it funnier.
@nikoskonstantinidis4069
@nikoskonstantinidis4069 27 күн бұрын
... that secret? Mephiles: YES THAT SECRET!
@lunarskygacha9036
@lunarskygacha9036 15 күн бұрын
Kronk: *pulls a Chaos Emerald outta nowhere* Got'cha covered.
@2Scribble
@2Scribble 10 күн бұрын
What's this *plot* about, Kronk?! Well, you got me - by all accounts it doesn't make sense...
@nonamepasserbya6658
@nonamepasserbya6658 2 күн бұрын
It's not that weird. Eggman could have just heard about the Flames of Disaster but knows little else about it just like when he tries to use CHAOS in SA1. The Emeralds may as well be glorified keys to undo the seals
@Keyfur91
@Keyfur91 Ай бұрын
I was listening to Rerez through my headphones when the video was explaining Shadow’s power ring inhibitors I got an advert for DIY halfway through. So I was pretty confused when I heard that removal of his power rings allowed Shadow to build a lovely garden shed
@rerez
@rerez Ай бұрын
With his unchained power Shadow can save you hundreds of dollars in home renovations!
@Keyfur91
@Keyfur91 Ай бұрын
@@rerez Home Improvement: Ultimate Lifeform Edition
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 Ай бұрын
shadow can have hobbies outside being a secret agent and guns
@Keyfur91
@Keyfur91 Ай бұрын
@@sarafontanini7051 - like brooding, twirling handguns, some more brooding, posing like a badass, a bit more brooding…
@ccricers
@ccricers Ай бұрын
Control the chaos in your garden
@cjthecomposer02
@cjthecomposer02 Ай бұрын
Fun fact! There are a total of 465 necessary load screens, which total up to 1hr 58min 34sec. This, however, is if you do everything in the game perfectly, so expect at least 2 hours of your game time to be taken up by the god damn loading screens.
@JamesP7
@JamesP7 Ай бұрын
My mind blew when I watched Charri5’s video and he mentioned that. Thank god I never went through the torture of playing that game…
@cjthecomposer02
@cjthecomposer02 Ай бұрын
@JamesP7 Funny thing is I had to pull up that video to double check the actual total time, but it's still crazy
@andre_601
@andre_601 Ай бұрын
This means that this video is * only * one hour longer than all the cutscenes combained (going with the 2 hours here)
@lozangekitten-gamer7626
@lozangekitten-gamer7626 Ай бұрын
wow... 2 hours is PLENTY enough time to beat pokemon Red/Blue with a Mewtwo on minimum battle
@cjthecomposer02
@cjthecomposer02 Ай бұрын
@@lozangekitten-gamer7626 It's also long enough to beat SA2's Hero Story
@tepig2828
@tepig2828 Ай бұрын
One funny thing about this game is that it’s plot seems like the plot was originally going to be about traveling between dimensions instead of time. Blaze’s whole lore from previous games is that she is from a parallel universe. Yet only in this game, it is stated that she is actually from “the ruined future” Furthermore, the design of Iblis looks very similar to that of Choas from Sonic Adventure, all the forms you fight it in throughout the game mimic the forms of Chaos from Sonic Adventure. These details would only make sense if they original plot was that Iblis is the version of Chaos from Blaze’s dimension.
@alonesometravler9343
@alonesometravler9343 Ай бұрын
I remember when Lyrhero streamed this. There were so many long loading screens that he was able to finish the story mode of an entirely different sonic game just with the load times alone.
@CassiusStelar
@CassiusStelar Ай бұрын
Specifically SA2.
@sebbnflow695
@sebbnflow695 Ай бұрын
Specifically specifically, the SA2 Hero story
@silvaskiproductions3937
@silvaskiproductions3937 Ай бұрын
I wonder if one could watch this video during the loading screens 🤔
@I-like-Sonic-91
@I-like-Sonic-91 Ай бұрын
@@silvaskiproductions3937 Most definitely.
@JamesP7
@JamesP7 Ай бұрын
@@silvaskiproductions3937 A perfect playthrough views 2 hours worth of loading screens, so watching this video at 1.5x speed would be more than enough time to finish the video. You might could even play this video at normal speed if the player doing this repeated loading screens (from deaths for example) enough times.
@camwing
@camwing Ай бұрын
I was the one who sent the carrier pigeon, I'm glad to hear it made it safely! I just assumed it died on the way
@ameep168
@ameep168 Ай бұрын
Wait I thought your's was the one I ate?
@jim0jimmylee810
@jim0jimmylee810 Ай бұрын
No It was mine :(
@InvaderMedia420
@InvaderMedia420 Ай бұрын
I was the one who paid for the sky writing
@heardofrvb
@heardofrvb Ай бұрын
You weren't also responsible for Alucard's death threats to the Pope, were you?
@InvaderMedia420
@InvaderMedia420 Ай бұрын
@@heardofrvb the damn vampire stole Credit for that one some weirdo named Chuck did that.
@joestarrunner3897
@joestarrunner3897 Ай бұрын
2:24:12 To make the point about Shadow's inhibitor rings even worse: They weren't mentioned in previous games either; they were from the anime, Sonic X. So even people who were up-to-date on the games might still be confused about this scene.
@AusSP
@AusSP Ай бұрын
I was very confused. It's particularly bad considering Sonic Adventure 2, where the whole point is that Sonic and Shadow are the same. Inhibitor Rings just mean that Shadow wasn't trying before. You know, when he died in SA2 because he was exhausted. He should have just tried harder, and then he would have won. Apparently, he would have been exhausted... but he was exhausted even without doing that, and he might have had enough power to not die. And that never comes up in 06, so he just spontaneously gets stronger with no obvious downsides.
@hihi-nm3uy
@hihi-nm3uy 25 күн бұрын
@@AusSP On the front of the 'same' thing, and on botching the ending, I agree - but Shadow receives a lot of lore and elaboration after SA2 released. By the time 06 rolled around and they canonised his inhibitors, Shadow had already been firmly established as being a lot more powerful than Sonic, with an extra back catalogue of moves and abilities. You're definitely right in how it retroactively spoils SA2 a little. Still, I think a new character like Shadow was bound to get elaborated.
@qu1253
@qu1253 Ай бұрын
It annoys me how inconsequential Sonic's role in the story is. His whole episode can be summarized as blue hedgehog saves princess from bald man. 5 times.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Ай бұрын
Shadow has to baby everyone.
@LuigisNo1fan
@LuigisNo1fan Ай бұрын
The main character of the entire franchise being the least involved in the story on his 15th anniversary will always be nasty work.
@andrejg4136
@andrejg4136 Ай бұрын
The entire planning, development, and release of this game (along with Sonic 1 for the GBA) should be used as a negative case study in both software development and brand management.
@MetalSonicReject
@MetalSonicReject Ай бұрын
That was probably intentional. My guess is that Sonic’s story was meant to focus on stopping Eggman like in every other game, while Shadow and Silver’s stories covered stuff like Mephiles manipulating everything from behind the scenes.
@I-like-Sonic-91
@I-like-Sonic-91 Ай бұрын
@@qu1253 As to quote Tails, "Sonic! Help me!" (Fun fact - An episode of AoStH has Tails being captured and needing help by Sonic 4 times...)
@tovarischkrasnyjeshi
@tovarischkrasnyjeshi Ай бұрын
She's not a chicken, she's a swan. That's actually documented somewhere, she was going to be a swan princess. Been forever since I saw where it said that, though.
@MerlinCross13
@MerlinCross13 Ай бұрын
Okay you know that makes a lot of sense actually
@Googaliemoogalie
@Googaliemoogalie Ай бұрын
LOL just talking about how she's not a chicken makes me laugh
@G0ttaSmashTh3mAll
@G0ttaSmashTh3mAll Ай бұрын
I thought her design was supposed to resemble the Eagle, since most of the biggest influence in their country based around birds are the Eagles.
@EngieMak
@EngieMak Ай бұрын
Should have done so, never liked how Sonic characters exist next to human look like they from Final Fantasy games At least their know this and re-design the princess to fit with the art style.
@duckmcbucket
@duckmcbucket Ай бұрын
It’s the red hair that makes her look more chicken than swan, since chickens have those red combs.
@DrSheldonCrane444
@DrSheldonCrane444 Ай бұрын
There’s also one last plot hole that is probably the largest: where the frick was the red chaos emerald!?
@natk205
@natk205 28 күн бұрын
Probably flung into the Mario universe, where Yoshi ate it due to mistaking the red chaos emerald for an apple. But yeah, Sega messed up with the exclusion of that emerald big time.
@Manucrack2010.
@Manucrack2010. 20 күн бұрын
It doesnt matter, sonic doesnt need them to turn intoo super sonic in this game, a kiss is enougth to not only super him up, but to revive him too
@bananaspice1967
@bananaspice1967 17 күн бұрын
I eated it
@Manucrack2010.
@Manucrack2010. 17 күн бұрын
@bananaspice1967 was it good?
@tiredoshawott7823
@tiredoshawott7823 10 күн бұрын
Chaos Control.
@Oldgeezershadow
@Oldgeezershadow Ай бұрын
The Idris Elba comment is funnier if you realize that he plays knuckles, and in the eponymous series staring Idris Elba, Knuckles wields the flames of disaster - which is Iblis in this game. Not sure if you intended the joke to be that clever, but if so, good one.
@SaiKisaragi
@SaiKisaragi Ай бұрын
oh yeah... that's where "THE FLAMES OF DISASTER" meme came from :D
@sparkybig9799
@sparkybig9799 Ай бұрын
Ati hii ndo cafe mpya…Mkundu!!!!!
@pyiffer
@pyiffer Ай бұрын
The load time was introduced by Dr Eggman as an obstacle for Sonic so he’d give up.
@TiStardust
@TiStardust Ай бұрын
One of Robotnik’s diabolical traps!
@cartmann94
@cartmann94 Ай бұрын
It’s like when he gave Sonic those lead shoes in Sonic Labyrinth. Or whatever he did to the GBA processor in Sonic Genesis.
@Blueflag04
@Blueflag04 Ай бұрын
Before the forklift, theres this screen
@danielmassa211
@danielmassa211 Ай бұрын
The funny thing about the PS3 version being worse than the Xbox 360 version; THAT VERSION WAS INTENDED TO BE THE PRIMARY VERSION OF THIS GAME. The 360 version was originally intended to be a port, as the Xbox 360 wasn't as popular in Japan. However, The 360 was more popular in the US, so Microsoft pushed SEGA and Sonic Team to prioritize that version. So the 360 version released a month early in the states and then released in Japan the same day as the PS3 version in mid--December. However, the PS3 version didn't get a US release until January 2007.
@useless4692
@useless4692 28 күн бұрын
It makes it even funnier since sonic 06 was supposed to be a jrpg at first (i assume probably ps3 exclusive or at least multiplat with ps3 priority since a bunch of xbox exclusive jrpgs at the time bombed super hard)
@ColinJoesseppiVEVO
@ColinJoesseppiVEVO Ай бұрын
Jesus, those pre-rendered cutscenes make me feel even worse for this game It’s a sign that this game was going to be great before it got curb stomped time and time again by its hellish time being developed.
@sadfatdragon9529
@sadfatdragon9529 Ай бұрын
I do wonder what they would've made had Sega not been stupid.
@Blueflag04
@Blueflag04 Ай бұрын
​@@sadfatdragon9529or if the developer never left the studio before the game was finished
@sadfatdragon9529
@sadfatdragon9529 Ай бұрын
@Blueflag04 gonna be a what if forever
@jackd6881
@jackd6881 Ай бұрын
It doesnt help that most of the people that made sonic team Including Yuji Naka himself had left or where leaving the company by the time Sonic 06 was in development. Naka literally abandoned the game to make his own company.
@DanielFerreira-ez8qd
@DanielFerreira-ez8qd 16 күн бұрын
@@jackd6881 Yuji Naka spent years at sega making things terrible for a lot of people, and when things got rough the man bailed for greener pastures. Talk about honorable.
@Luigis_Menace
@Luigis_Menace Ай бұрын
Oh no. THE bad game. Y’all are in for it now- 3 HOURS?!
@andycanoy863
@andycanoy863 Ай бұрын
Angry Joe: 3 F**KING HOURSSS?!!!
@MrTable678
@MrTable678 Ай бұрын
Pretty much my exact thought process when I clicked this video
@henryconner3002
@henryconner3002 Ай бұрын
Oh hi Luigi’s Menace based videos you make
@chadthundercock455
@chadthundercock455 Ай бұрын
I’m so grateful! I have a weird obsession with hour+ long videos talking about how bad Sonic 06 was. This video from Rerez may dethrone the legendary Sonic 06 video from SomeCallMeJohnny as my number 1 go to video for bedtime 😂
@eldoblixtlo1058
@eldoblixtlo1058 Ай бұрын
Each hour for each protagonist it seems.
@jcawthon99
@jcawthon99 Ай бұрын
At least Peach only gets kidnapped once a game. I mean WTF!
@planescaped
@planescaped Ай бұрын
Kidnapped only to be rescued and kidnapped again, only to escape and then be kidnapped, only to be rescued and return home, only to then show up kidnapped in the next scene. Feels like stream of consciousness writing, lol.
@massgunner4152
@massgunner4152 Ай бұрын
And even then they got bored of it with 3D world and wonder.
@ZC-Infinity
@ZC-Infinity 2 сағат бұрын
Hotel Mario would like a word with you.
@WarDragonOfTheLight
@WarDragonOfTheLight Ай бұрын
"Geez. Rerez hasn't done a video in a while. I wonder what's taking so-- Oh. That explains it."
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Ай бұрын
Lol! Right? Also been waiting for a new entry in this series and then they drop a feast right before Christmas 😅
@justagamer4431
@justagamer4431 Ай бұрын
My exact thoughts 😂
@WarDragonOfTheLight
@WarDragonOfTheLight Ай бұрын
I wasn't even impatient. I just thought the show might have been discontinued for some reason. Or there was a small chance they were working on something big. I think they did joke that it takes time to make a video cause the games are hard to get through. I think there's some truth in that though. And they do their research. So I'm not even mad. Just glad they're fine.
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Ай бұрын
@@WarDragonOfTheLight Oh, I didn't read your comment as being mad, lol! Just was agreeing that I'd been looking for a new update and was surprised when we got this behemoth. The quality of the videos are worth waiting for.
@SypherKyaeon
@SypherKyaeon Ай бұрын
​@@WarDragonOfTheLight I would think that the more modern a release they cover, the more time it takes as well. Modern games are far more expansive, after all.
@keyburri3095
@keyburri3095 Ай бұрын
No, NEVER forget the bad games of the past! If we bury those memories we're doomed to repeat those same mistakes again! You Rerez boys do such fantastic work telling the world what went wrong in these titles. This is one of the most detailed breakdowns of Sonic 06 I've ever seen. So don't doubt yourselves and keep up the great work!
@VekhGaming
@VekhGaming Ай бұрын
Unfortunately a lot of CEO's seem to think that if it didn't work the first time, they should fire everyone involved and try again with a different developer. :(
@lutherheggs451
@lutherheggs451 Ай бұрын
Sonic was literally AWAYS trash.......Sorry not sorry. Its a garbage trash game, wants you to use "speed" but is so piss poorly designed you can't really use speed, and he controls so piss poorly the awful platforming is even more awful... A god awful garbage trash series that never knew what it wanted to be and still has no clue what it wants to be
@MiltonGagliardi
@MiltonGagliardi Ай бұрын
And SEGA really needs to be reminded of it, since they made the exact same mistakes with Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric, which development story is 'Sonic 06 2.0' just slightly less painful
@exocolt15
@exocolt15 Ай бұрын
@@lutherheggs451 I mean your completely wrong. The first 2 were genuinely good games as were Adventures 1 and 2 and that’s not just my opinion that’s the general consensus. since then it’s been a lot of bad but saying no game is good is completely false. You not liking them is different than them being bad. I don’t personally enjoy The Legend of Zelda series over all but I won’t deny it’s an important series with several great games. Grow up.
@WarioWareCEO
@WarioWareCEO Ай бұрын
@@lutherheggs451 Not to mention how-a the classic games are designed to reward knowing the layout. In other words, learn the layout of Green Hill for example, play it a bunch and you'll achive-a mach jesus. Wario respect your opinion, though.
@hoshi2k
@hoshi2k Ай бұрын
Many thanks for your hard work to keep us entertained! I find your videos absolutely hilarious! Keep up your awesome work. ❤
@rerez
@rerez Ай бұрын
We're so glad you liked it!
@thomasruglioni1589
@thomasruglioni1589 19 күн бұрын
Do mario party 10
@ConaRikan2
@ConaRikan2 Ай бұрын
Future Ghost is wrong. We need to remember the past, bad games and all, otherwise we will be subjected to more of them in the future from devs who didn’t learn from past mistakes, and gamers who never learnt the warning signs.
@sonicmaiden2871
@sonicmaiden2871 Ай бұрын
I mean after Sonic 06, Sega made Sonic Boom Rise Of Lyric, Colors Ultimate and Sonic Forces so they didn't learn anything since then to be honest. At least SonicxShadow Generations was good though. I hope they can keep that momentum with next new releases
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Ай бұрын
@sonicmaiden2871 oi oi oi. I'll grant you Boom being in the same disaster tier as 06, but Colors Ultimate and Forces are just normal bad Sonic games and I won't stand for you putting them in with 06 and Boom (and the kinect controls version of Free Riders).
@sonicmaiden2871
@sonicmaiden2871 Ай бұрын
@@neoqwerty Colors Ultimate had seizure inducing bugs on switch which I also think It's really bad. Forces wasn't a buggy game but the level design and physics in in it were really bad and the game as a whole was really boring. I'd rather play 06 over Forces any day since at least 06 wasn't boring, really automated, short and super easy.
@cjthecomposer02
@cjthecomposer02 Ай бұрын
​@sonicmaiden2871So, the way I see it, Forces is the boring bad kind of Sonic Game, Colors Ultimate is the broken bad kind of Sonic game and 06 and Boom are the so broken they're actually fun kind of Sonic game. Did I get that right?
@josephfrye7342
@josephfrye7342 Ай бұрын
Not this time the future of ghost is warning us that there is bad modern games.
@Wnick1996
@Wnick1996 Ай бұрын
"It's no uses" Thousands have war flashbacks to the mere mention that phrase Happy 50th episode, everyone. And with three hours, it was well worth the wait
@clairereinhart1913
@clairereinhart1913 Ай бұрын
“Arin Hanson freaks out in the distance”
@Blueflag04
@Blueflag04 Ай бұрын
​@@clairereinhart1913you mean that Sonic hater? Why does people still watch him?
@HistoryNerd129
@HistoryNerd129 Ай бұрын
1:11:48 In defense of whoever made the newspaper, 'L' and 'R' are merged in Japanese, so I can't really blame the guy to made it.
@cadendicky1855
@cadendicky1855 4 күн бұрын
How do they tell between the shoulder buttons then?
@coffeebuticed
@coffeebuticed 3 күн бұрын
​@@cadendicky1855Well left and right are different words in japanese. But in case this was a serious question. For translation purposes, ラリルレロ which all start with R, are used for words that start with both L and R. So when it comes time to translate those words into something like english, you really need to use best judgement on what it was supposed to be. Like how ライチ is raichi, which is actually lychee.
@babycan9829
@babycan9829 Ай бұрын
As someone who's never played Sonic '06 it's much appreciated to finally see a detailed dive into this game. Thanks a lot.
@redwolfe7049
@redwolfe7049 Ай бұрын
I never played it either and I'm going to enjoy the heck outta this
@mikey81493
@mikey81493 Ай бұрын
if you have a Computer Play Project 06 it fixes everything from Sonic 06
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Ай бұрын
Are you serious.
@sonicmaiden2871
@sonicmaiden2871 Ай бұрын
I recommend playing Sonic p06 remake by Chaos x. It's for pc and it fixes a lot of problems the original had. Also it adds some new stuff and visual effects on top as well. And it has mod support.
@1Thunderfire
@1Thunderfire Ай бұрын
​@@mikey81493What about the story though?
@cartmann94
@cartmann94 Ай бұрын
3 Hours? A 3 hour video rant on Sonic 06? The Great Clement would be proud.
@LARKXHIN
@LARKXHIN Ай бұрын
It's been what, 13 years? And I still quote that.
@qu1253
@qu1253 Ай бұрын
I can't believe it's been over a decade since he made that series. I feel old.
@Cyberguy64
@Cyberguy64 Ай бұрын
Referencing The Great Clement AND having an avatar that references Retsupurae? The nostalgia is STRONG with this comment.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Ай бұрын
Indeed.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Ай бұрын
@@qu1253one of my playlists.
@ReactigatorDile
@ReactigatorDile Ай бұрын
Shadow kicking Silver in the back of the head lives rent free in my head
@somerandomuser3465
@somerandomuser3465 Ай бұрын
One of the few good things the game has
@getthegoons
@getthegoons 24 күн бұрын
It reminds me a lot of Killer Bean Forever.
@slightlyevolved
@slightlyevolved 12 күн бұрын
I want the Chuck Norris version of Shadow to be the official canon. No guns, no chaos control, no floaty fairy running. Just *Boot To The Head*.
@ultimate_pleb
@ultimate_pleb Ай бұрын
"All you had to do was save the damm train Sonic!"
@alfalfag
@alfalfag Ай бұрын
I was expecting this reference in the video.. lol
@mariajimenafigueroa233
@mariajimenafigueroa233 Ай бұрын
GTA Sonic
@ultimate_pleb
@ultimate_pleb Ай бұрын
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 i would unironically buy that
@AlecDraven
@AlecDraven Ай бұрын
@@ultimate_pleb Why would Sonic need a car? He does much more damage on foot.
@ultimate_pleb
@ultimate_pleb Ай бұрын
@AlecDraven i believe the official explanation is "because it's cool" No im not joking that is actually the official explanation
@snotzolla2
@snotzolla2 Ай бұрын
I swear this game feels like it was going to be a random jrpg but then Sega decided to make it about sonic instead without changing any other assets.
@jesusramirezromo2037
@jesusramirezromo2037 Ай бұрын
The cutscenes would look much better if Eggman was a FF villain and Sonic a JRPG protag
@I-like-Sonic-91
@I-like-Sonic-91 Ай бұрын
Ironically enough, Sonic has seen that before (Sister Sonic (a cancelled reskin of Popful Mail for the Sega CD), Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (reskin of the MD version of Puyo Puyo), Sonic's Schoolhouse (reskin of a cancelled game called "Answer Hunt"), and Tails' Skypatrol (reskin of a cancelled Disney game).
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 Ай бұрын
​@I-like-Sonic-91And Sonic Adventure was initially conceived as an RPG.
@Yusis-o7d
@Yusis-o7d Ай бұрын
Apparently this was literally the case according to some former Sega Devs. Since Sonic's 15th anniversary was fast approaching Sega decided to change gears during development in order to bank on the character's popularity. Before that happened 06 was Origin going to be an entirely new IP.
@JoneBone-zv1kr
@JoneBone-zv1kr Ай бұрын
That would explain A LOT
@magicofaman
@magicofaman Ай бұрын
I love that this is 3 hours; you covered everything and left no stone unturned! No other review of this game is needed...one could say, "It's no use!"
@Alexankitty
@Alexankitty Ай бұрын
For the record, Sonic Heroes was the first game to feature the dummy ring bomb attack. That's probably where it came from, and it was just as confusing in that game, too.
@LARKXHIN
@LARKXHIN Ай бұрын
So the devs didn't learn from their mistakes
@Alexankitty
@Alexankitty Ай бұрын
@LARKXHIN such is the sonic dev life.
@CassiusStelar
@CassiusStelar Ай бұрын
The Dummy Ring wasn't meant to be tails's main thing even in that game, in Heroes all the flight characters have ThunderShoot, a weaker homing attack
@LuigisNo1fan
@LuigisNo1fan Ай бұрын
In Heroes it was solely used when the flying characters were by themselves. You barely saw it unless you let the other 2 characters get caught by 1 specific enemy that isn’t that common.
@viscountrainbows2857
@viscountrainbows2857 Ай бұрын
Sonic Heroes... Man I spent way too long trying to A-Rank the whole game. That and 100%ing Shadow The Hedgehog. There are s something seriously wrong with us Sonic fans. To varying degrees of sincerity, but nonetheless. And the fact I know so much about Sonic Heroes' mechanics to have known about the ring dummy bomb scares that into me.
@chocoberryvanillacake4297
@chocoberryvanillacake4297 Ай бұрын
ReRez:Uploads their 50th episode. Me:Nice! ReRez:Its a 3 hour video. Me:Oh. ReRez:It's Sonic 06. Me:OH!
@rga1605
@rga1605 Ай бұрын
This really brings memories of Game Grumps playing it and YTPs, especially "The worst Sonic fanfiction ever". But this was really a mess. I could tell they wanted to go for a "fairy tale" storytelling, but it just got awkward, even really really awkward.
@tyrannozilla
@tyrannozilla Ай бұрын
That YTP is legendary. Glad there's someone else in the comments that remembers it. Still funny to this day.
@Gat720Dua
@Gat720Dua 4 күн бұрын
I see it more as an "action packed adventure" than fairy tale but you're right.
@raelogan
@raelogan Ай бұрын
Can we talk about how Rouge basically died in the original timeline because she had to give the Omega the emerald so he could wait for the Future? She basically condemned an entire timeline to burn to get Shadow home. Kind of hardcore and based, but also completely avoidable
@eeveestar6826
@eeveestar6826 Ай бұрын
They also just glossed over how Blaze died to seal away Iblis 💀
@HeadHunter-mv2ht
@HeadHunter-mv2ht Ай бұрын
@eeveestar6826 well it was immediately made irrelevant, kind of like how blazes overall role in this game seems to just be for silvers development.
@planescaped
@planescaped Ай бұрын
Hope Omega had nothing else to do for 200 years as he stood under the freeway overpass staring into space, watching time pass him by as he lived out his existential nightmare.
@raelogan
@raelogan Ай бұрын
@planescaped I suppose that also answers the age old question of whether or not Omega was an E Series robot that ran on Flicky power, or if Eggman discontinued that power source after Gamma. Because I'm pretty sure that bird would be dead by that time. 👀 Shadow and Omega disappearing from the equation means that Rouge was on her own for a LONG time, and I can only hope that Sonic welcomed her into his friend group after she presumably said "Yeah, my guys are trapped in the Future and we're all probably all gonna die in this reality anyway. Wanna go out for chilli dogs while we watch the world burn?" Although, Sonic could have been able to just say "Hey, I know I need two Chaos Controls at the same time to go to the Future, but Egghead's got this Time Machine, so why don't we just go back to go pick up Shadow ourselves?" And then they all could have ganged up on Mephiles and he would not have seen that coming. ... Actually, I was joking at first, but that actually would have been a way cooler boss fight, just use a lite version of the Sonic Heroes mechanics and just swap between either team. THEN Mephiles would have a valid reason to target Sonic. 😆
@truegreen7595
@truegreen7595 Ай бұрын
@@raeloganOmega runs on a chaos drive
@zeldagameryt4018
@zeldagameryt4018 Ай бұрын
For as buggy and broken as 06 was, at least we can rest easy knowing that someone out there actually “fixed” the game and made it actually playable. Showing what could have been if SEGA didn’t rush the game
@scottydu81
@scottydu81 Ай бұрын
Well, they’re fixING it 🤷‍♂️
@Raptorducki
@Raptorducki Ай бұрын
Sonic pretty much controls the same, P-06 just makes every other character actually fun to play as
@Yuli_Ban
@Yuli_Ban Ай бұрын
@@Raptorducki Sonic controlled pretty pisspoorly in base 06. That he was still the best character to play as is shocking to consider. P-06 is so otherworldly better than the console game that I actually appreciate beating dead horses like this video because I've seen some Zoomers much younger than myself unironically claim 06 was always good, just buggy, and cite P-06 as why. No, even on a mechanical level, 06 was fucking broken beyond belief. If all the bugs were fixed and we got Sonic 06: Finished Edition, it'd still be boring at best and sluggish at normal. P-06 is a goddamn treasure, because it's more Sonic 06: Potential Unleashed.
@Raptorducki
@Raptorducki Ай бұрын
@@Yuli_Ban I think it’s a Phantom Menace effect where kids who grew up with it don’t understand the problems others had, and the fact that we eventually got even worse games like Boom and Forces like how Starwars got worse movies like Rise of Skywalker
@victoroliveira3577
@victoroliveira3577 Ай бұрын
​@@Raptorducki forces? It's a worse story sure but a worse game? I don't think so I don't know enough about the boom game to give a answer, i just know it's a buggy mess and that the show it's based off is surprisingly funny at times
@AbsoluteDingus709
@AbsoluteDingus709 Ай бұрын
The bit where Shane explains Elise’ bird/chicken motif is one of my favorites in this vid
@TakerKaneanite619
@TakerKaneanite619 Ай бұрын
It was very nice of SEGA to add Sonic Minigames in their Loading Screen Simulator
@I-like-Sonic-91
@I-like-Sonic-91 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: The US release day of Sonic '06 also had Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis, a GBA remake of the original Sonic the Hedgehog (which itself reuses the bad J2ME port's source code), which is also as buggy, glitchy as hell, and is also considered to be one of the worst Sonic games (imo it's MUCH worse). How ironic.
@sonicmaiden2871
@sonicmaiden2871 Ай бұрын
I agree Sonic Genessis on GBA is much worse than Sonic 06. It's pretty ironic that Sonic got 2 bad games on his anniversary tho.
@Kimonia6
@Kimonia6 Ай бұрын
We did also get Sonic Riders tho.
@DJCube1701
@DJCube1701 Ай бұрын
Sonic Rivals also came out in 2006, which is also worse than Sonic 06.
@Loner098
@Loner098 Ай бұрын
Jesus; why are a majority of Sonic games so bad and/or inconsistent? Is Sega just that bad of a video game company?
@Kimonia6
@Kimonia6 Ай бұрын
Rushing technically leads to bad games.
@scolioreset
@scolioreset Ай бұрын
I’ll not be able to look at any footage of Princess Elise without seeing that image of the chicken. It’s over.
@raelogan
@raelogan Ай бұрын
I love how Eggman completely forgot about wanting to collect Mephiles like halfway through the plot, and then just acts like he knows how this guy was thinking after getting yoinked into the shadow realm with everyone
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 Ай бұрын
hell, its never even suggested he knew Mephiles was a thing. he knew the scepter of darkness was a thing and had a part of solaris in it probbaly, but he shouldn't really know anything about mephiles or his machinations, especially since WHY WOULD ANYONE TELL HIM???
@raelogan
@raelogan Ай бұрын
@sarafontanini7051 Yeah, the only times Eggman even namedrops Mephiles is both when Shadow busts into the train, and after Sonic dies. As far as Eggman knew, the gooey shadowy shape coming out of the broken Scepter was nameless, because he sure didn't stick around to see what happened. Which also makes me wonder how he planned to contain Mephiles after he was already walking around and stuff? Eggman's track record with harnessing godlike beings, even back then, was very, very bad, and Mephiles is way more visibly sentient than something like Chaos or, even later, the Time Eater. Was he just gonna throw him in a containment cell or put a collar of sorts on him??
@daverapp
@daverapp Ай бұрын
To be fair to that later part, it's totally in-character for him to act like he knows exactly what's going on and he anticipated all of this, even when what's happening is crazy. The last thing that eggman would ever do is admit when he's in over his head.
@TeddyCream0
@TeddyCream0 Ай бұрын
Not only is this an amazing episode, but the callbacks to previous episodes (I'm an Eagel! Professor Azubin, and the nature narrator) are all a treat! Better than the game you're playing 😂
@TheSlothNerd64
@TheSlothNerd64 Ай бұрын
All that was missing was referee ghost saying "is that peepee?"
@cartmann94
@cartmann94 Ай бұрын
The Rerez cinematic universe.
@filmbit
@filmbit Ай бұрын
Thank God, I thought just bad games was over. Keep em coming boyos!
@SanFran51
@SanFran51 Ай бұрын
The words. "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?" springs to mind. God this game was a pure nightmare.
@ericb3157
@ericb3157 Ай бұрын
i've heard that it was partly from low budget and rushed development. but at least they didn't completely change developers multiple times, like "duke nukem forever" did...
@mariajimenafigueroa233
@mariajimenafigueroa233 Ай бұрын
AVGN reference?
@NepuSoggyMango
@NepuSoggyMango Ай бұрын
​@@ericb3157Forced to meet a deadline because it was sonics 15th anniversary at the time It was either "we do it as part of the anniversary or we will punish yall severely" (😭)
@mbdg6810
@mbdg6810 Ай бұрын
they didn't finish the game and split the development team. look at the actual dev history
@ericb3157
@ericb3157 Ай бұрын
@@mbdg6810 sorry, i posted that comment before watching the entire video.
@BillyBillyandMandyReal
@BillyBillyandMandyReal Ай бұрын
"It's unbearable!" -The Grinch (The Grinch PS1)
@PeanutBuny27
@PeanutBuny27 Ай бұрын
Ya Grinched!
@CB-L
@CB-L Ай бұрын
Egg. _Egg._ *_EGG._* *_Ovo._*
@laterferaligatr2947
@laterferaligatr2947 Ай бұрын
​@@PeanutBuny27 lol I was bout to comment this
@flamenskall2016
@flamenskall2016 Ай бұрын
"its no use"
@shiethegal
@shiethegal Ай бұрын
_Big Daddy?_
@superboyjoestar7142
@superboyjoestar7142 Ай бұрын
How people can defend this game is beyond me. And there are alot of people who defend this game!!!
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 15 күн бұрын
Kids who got an xbox for christmas or bday and had nothing to play but 06.
@ShyGuyBay
@ShyGuyBay 2 күн бұрын
I personally feel bad for them
@BraedenOrr
@BraedenOrr Ай бұрын
Had to stop the video a half hour in because of the following exchange making me cackle: “… I like the sassy hedgehog” “They’re ALL sassy hedgehogs!”
@mariajimenafigueroa233
@mariajimenafigueroa233 Ай бұрын
I like sassy hedgehogs
@gantz22ify
@gantz22ify Ай бұрын
The writing is bad, but the good news is every new character in the game save for the Duke went on to become far more popular due to better writing and redesigns.
@Chibi_Mercury
@Chibi_Mercury Ай бұрын
damn, did everyone else just agree to never mention elise?
@pokemonsdoom
@pokemonsdoom Ай бұрын
@@Chibi_Mercury who? there is no character by that name in the Sonic fandom, :P
@thymecrafter
@thymecrafter Ай бұрын
so… silver?
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Ай бұрын
@@Chibi_Mercury No. Elise too got more love since we got official art of her and Silver Ice skating in a far more eye pleasing style last year.
@Chibi_Mercury
@Chibi_Mercury Ай бұрын
@@thymecrafter has silver even had a important role in a game? he, like, lost to infinite in forces and......... uh....... damn, sega obviously have favorites out of the hedgehogs
@The-one-who-cookss
@The-one-who-cookss Ай бұрын
I'm never getting over the guttural "NOOOOO!-" that shadow performs when he falls off the face of the earth, like in 3:05:14
@rhapsody2612
@rhapsody2612 Ай бұрын
A 3 hour rant on a Sonic Game releasing the day Sonic Movie 3 premieres. Brilliant
@Invidente7
@Invidente7 Ай бұрын
No, it's aiming at the lowest common denominator possible but then again THEY ARE nintendrones so they have the obligation of trashing sega at every chance.
@mariopikaman1
@mariopikaman1 Ай бұрын
​@@Invidente7blud thought he was cooking with this comment 💀
@I-like-Sonic-91
@I-like-Sonic-91 Ай бұрын
​​@@Invidente7Did he see the first few minutes? "Sonic the Hedgehog is NOT a bad game"
@CarissaNomadic
@CarissaNomadic Ай бұрын
​@@Invidente7always trashing on Sega, like their Rise of Kong game, or their infamous Wii Music flop, never mind the infamous Snake's Revenge. They just can't let go of Sega, right? Seriously, get over yourself.
@gracekim1998
@gracekim1998 Ай бұрын
* the day it premieres in the US
@sorurus7552
@sorurus7552 Ай бұрын
This game's story genuinely feels like they forcefully implanted Sonic characters into a Final Fantasy game. I mean you've got a kingdom, a doomed future, and a godly being as the final boss. Elise also looks like the required love interest of the main character
@galacticdevil
@galacticdevil Ай бұрын
Given this is Sega it would have been Phantasy Star with Sonic characters shoe horned in.
@cadendicky1855
@cadendicky1855 Ай бұрын
Did Kefka from FF6 make this game just to further torture the world after he already destroyed it?
@3rdalbum
@3rdalbum Ай бұрын
39:03 They started in a desert and ended off in Windows XP?!
@giancarlomartinez3568
@giancarlomartinez3568 Ай бұрын
56:52 i think its worth mentioning that Sonic Heroes released in 2004 for every major home console at the time and sold over 3 million copies, across Xbox, Ps2, and Gamecube. The game also gives some context as to who the chacters in 06 are. You also had the games on the GBA which helped flesh out some characters. Though the lack of the adventure games definitely struck a blow😔
@KinoDarkvall79
@KinoDarkvall79 Ай бұрын
I was wondering why they didn't mention that at all.
@QueenMariposa5
@QueenMariposa5 Ай бұрын
There was also SonicX. That's what introduced me to the franchise and it covers the lore and adventure games
@seansquiers6506
@seansquiers6506 Ай бұрын
Just the other day I was like "it's been so long since the last episode of Just Bad Games. Did they cancel it?" Only to be jumpscared by a video I've been waiting years for. And it's 3 hours? Thank you.
@S1ayer585.
@S1ayer585. Ай бұрын
It took them 6’754 hours due to how long the loading takes and half the game being filled with loading screens
@Chris_Thorndyke
@Chris_Thorndyke Ай бұрын
Any game with Silver in is an automatic 10/10
@Yuli_Ban
@Yuli_Ban Ай бұрын
The P-06 shout out at the end is my take. It's almost obscene how much better the experience is over the base game, and its biggest flaw is that it's still 06 at its core. Fan created levels, ported levels, and other little touches really let you experience the characters' abilities much better. Like goddamn, I'd unironically pay money for a Shadow solo game or an Amy solo game that plays as well as they do in 06, for a full campaign. The OG game is best when you find fun breaking it apart, manipulating the glitches and learning how to avoid the instability.
@SuspiciousScout
@SuspiciousScout Ай бұрын
For Project 06, I'm pretty sure the goal was just to create the best possible version of the base game instead of something entirely new. I'm a little surprised Rerez didn't think this, but the level design is one of the better parts of the game, and the fact it was almost entirely unchanged in P06 speaks volumes. The potential 06 had was massive and could've been a legitimate Sonic Adventure 3, and while it still has core issues that need reworking, I think P06 shows that it could've been a pretty good game had Sonic Team had more time to work on it
@notabear2614
@notabear2614 Ай бұрын
@@SuspiciousScout Yeah I was confused when it said the level design was bad. My assumpition based on footage is that they talking about you skipping interaction which kind of. If you're just completing the level without care about rank possible but that's assuming you're not playing it more than once for more secrets, new routes and unlocking abilities.
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 15 күн бұрын
P06 shadow is what i wish shadow played like in shadow gens
@theamazingmeh1759
@theamazingmeh1759 10 күн бұрын
Love P-06, should have covered that a bit more and talk about the improvements
@TheOnlyTherazan
@TheOnlyTherazan Ай бұрын
Given how few and far between Rerez eps are, let alone Just Bad Games, I feel expecially thankful for this 3h long gift! Happy holidays to you too, guys! I hope you were able to treat yourself to go see Sonic 3 after what assume has been a long, grueling process to make this video!
@vetreas366
@vetreas366 Ай бұрын
If there had to be a game to canonize an anthropomorphic character getting it on with a human and acknowledge furries everywhere, is anyone surprised it was a Sonic game?
@Rean_Wheel
@Rean_Wheel Ай бұрын
ITS NO USE ITS NO USE ITS NO USE
@Wnick1996
@Wnick1996 Ай бұрын
I bet people have flashbacks to that phrase
@CTGReviews
@CTGReviews Ай бұрын
TAKE THIS
@scottydu81
@scottydu81 Ай бұрын
IT’S NO USE
@sonicmaiden2871
@sonicmaiden2871 Ай бұрын
You just have to run around in circles and after he talks, homing attack him. Bad telegraphed boss but It's easy once you figure out when to attack.
@cartmann94
@cartmann94 Ай бұрын
Elise, QUEEN NEVER CRY
@SaulGRCanalYT
@SaulGRCanalYT Ай бұрын
Time travel, when use improperly, can be a *SERIOUSELY BAD* plot device
@SaulGRCanalYT
@SaulGRCanalYT Ай бұрын
SPAM COMMENT BOTS ARE NOT ALLOWED
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 Ай бұрын
And it's VERY easy to use improperly.
@androidps1440
@androidps1440 Ай бұрын
Yup we gotta remember that when we do stories and lores
@Loner098
@Loner098 Ай бұрын
So that's why Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time had issues in its storytelling while Chrono Trigger and Steins;Gate had less.
@planescaped
@planescaped Ай бұрын
Time travel, -when use improperly, can be- a *SERIOUSLY BAD* plot device fix'd
@BS-cc4ks
@BS-cc4ks Ай бұрын
I've been waiting for you guys to review this for soooo long!
@SlimyTheNekoslime
@SlimyTheNekoslime Ай бұрын
No wonder it took forever for the next episode. 3 FREAKEN HOURS!
@dcpyroman1
@dcpyroman1 Ай бұрын
I love it "feels like we stumbled into a ninety hour RPG about magic rocks" 😂😂😂 nearly every jrpg ever not to mention also sonic 😂😂😂
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Ай бұрын
It's also VERY WEIRD how they tried to pull off FFX bittersweet love story with..... a hedgehog.
@EmmanuelWeye
@EmmanuelWeye Ай бұрын
You are saying that jrpgs are bad, they are good.
@dcpyroman1
@dcpyroman1 Ай бұрын
What no. I'm just saying that jrpgs have same or similar plots with magic rocks. Ff with the crystals, can't really think of any others at the moment maybe fire emblem?
@planescaped
@planescaped Ай бұрын
@@dcpyroman1 Don't mind that guy, he needs to lay off the magicite.
@dcpyroman1
@dcpyroman1 Ай бұрын
@KasumiRINA yeah well I guess in a weird way it's a love letter to square enix? Or maybe a few of the devs migrated from there at the time?
@PuppyFromTheAlt
@PuppyFromTheAlt 22 күн бұрын
I've been following this series for a notably long time, between simply silent binging and trashed Google accounts. I've always appreciated that between this and the Plug'n'Play rants, it's always a consistent descent into cognitoemotional instability throughout the many videos you walk through. Feels really convenient to start off the year with Sonic '06 specifically. This is gonna be fun.
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo Ай бұрын
I was 16 when this game came out. I remember my dad buying it for my sister, at the time 5 years old, because he had a lot of fond nostalgia for the Sega Genesis game. Keep in mind that we literally hadn't played a Sonic game past the Sega Genesis, and he thought maybe we should try the newer ones to see how we like them, and this happened to be our first (and subsequently last) attempt at getting back into the series. His exact words when we watched my sister play it were, "I was expecting this to be a little bit more like the Sonic we had on Sega...I have no idea what this Final Fantasy knock-off game is." She made it all the way to the orca part and then got really bored with it and never touched it again.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Ай бұрын
Sad because Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast (and later ports) were perfectly fine 3D Sonic games!
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo Ай бұрын
@@KasumiRINA So I've heard. I might give them a shot someday. Sonic '06 on the other hand can stay in the Bin of Shame in the corner of my basement with all the other PS3 games that we didn't like and will never play again.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 Ай бұрын
yeah while 06 was bad other games are good. SOnic Adventure 1 and 2, Sonic Heroes (debatably, its divisive), Sonic Generations and of course Sonic Mania are certainly ones to try
@julianx2rl
@julianx2rl Ай бұрын
52:49 - Hold up! There's one critical piece of media that you're dismissing with this argument... Sonic X. Sure, I know that Sonic X isn't exactly lighting the world on fire nowadays, but back in the 2000s, Sonic X was a pretty big deal. Is no exaggeration when I say that most of the kids that I knew back then, became Sonic fans because of that series. So Modern Sonic wasn't this "Obscure" part of the series that only a select few knew about, they were really popular!
@harmonixerraze
@harmonixerraze Ай бұрын
Not to mention that Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog were on all the previous generations systems. It may not have given their origins, but anyone who played either of them would also have already known these characters in some way.
@planescaped
@planescaped Ай бұрын
What is a Sonic X? lol
@LittleScaredyBoy
@LittleScaredyBoy Ай бұрын
@@planescaped Sonic: The Anime. Dubbed into English and broadcasted to North America by 4Kids
@PointsofData
@PointsofData Ай бұрын
​@@planescaped Sonic cartoon/anime, however you want to classify it. Aired around the time of the Kirby anime if I recall correctly, that's what I was more into, but Sonic X was definitely very popular.
@PointsofData
@PointsofData Ай бұрын
And the comics! I don't know when/if Shadow or Rouge showed up in them but the comics were already going strong by then so I have to assume they tied in with the relevant games at some point. I also personally don't see the issue in including them, period. There are three stories you're meant to play that all crossover with each other...not explaining who a character is the first time they show up isn't a big deal in this case, you just learn about it in their story. Ideally. That's the important part there... _ideally, in a good game._
@AnPrionsaTaibhse
@AnPrionsaTaibhse Ай бұрын
Why is Blaze hundreds of years in the future? She’s a counterpart to Sonic from another dimension, not someone from a different time. If she, for some reason, was sent to the future, couldn’t she say to Silver “Hey, that blue hedgehog is Sonic, I don’t think he’s Iblis.” This isn’t her first introduction, so that can’t be used as an excuse. Eggman wanting to use Mephiles some point in the story is stupid, as it didn’t work out well for him in Sonic Adventure well when he tried to use Chaos. Why don’t any of the characters try to explain anything or talk to each other? Why does Tails have a bomb that explodes into fake rings? Why not just a regular bomb? Why does he have one in the first place? Why don’t Silver and Shadow go back to before the lab incident to stop Mephiles and Iblis from escaping? Why is it called Team Attack Amigo? Are Tails, Blaze, and/or E-123 Ω Spanish or something? We know from the wanted posters on the billboards in Sonic Adventure 2 that Tails has no nationality. Blaze could be literally anything, knowing this game treatment of her. E-123 Ω is a robot. Why? Just why in general? I shouldn’t bother trying to figure anything out because the entire story is meaningless because of the Last Episode! Besides, Mephiles had won, the plot doesn’t need to happen in the first place. No amount of Chaos Control is answering this mess.
@Bulls3ye86
@Bulls3ye86 Ай бұрын
I think Silver's ending implies that she _was_ from the future, and that the other dimension she seals herself in is Sol. So this was kinda her origin.
@trustno173
@trustno173 26 күн бұрын
I love the fan theory that Blaze isn't actually in this game, and Silver has just gone crazy from years of isolation and is using Blaze because they met briefly due to one of her adventures. It would explain why neither Sonic or Mephiles acknowledge her presence, why she only talks to Silver and why there's no mention of the Sol gems and her home dimension. My personal theory is that Blaze was a replacement for another new character because they probably already had an HD model of her for promo purposes and it would save time and money on developing a new character.
@AnPrionsaTaibhse
@AnPrionsaTaibhse 26 күн бұрын
@@Bulls3ye86 I originally thought something similar, but Solaris was erased in the last episode, meaning the future wouldn’t be in ruins, which would mean Blaze would’ve never sealed herself in another dimension because Iblis never existed, being Solaris. Unless time travel and timelines work differently in Sonic than in every other media. The time travel in this game messes with my head because everyone keeps jumping through time at different points and across three episodes and because “Time travel, when used improperly, can be a SERIOUSLY BAD plot device.”
@Jordan83709
@Jordan83709 Ай бұрын
I lost it at, "Sloppery than me! *Gasp! My bubble gum eye!"
@alwaysamongdragons7354
@alwaysamongdragons7354 Ай бұрын
"Why are you helping?" "No special reason." The writing...not even a minute in and the writing! All he had to say was he heard/found out Dr Eggman was planning an attack and barely made it in time- _anything_ to sound less like you're trying to make him the shoehorned knight in shining armor from the 14 year old's midnight keyboard scribbles. At least this makes sense considering Eggman is a recurring villain for him!
@G0ttaSmashTh3mAll
@G0ttaSmashTh3mAll Ай бұрын
I'm not sure if Rerez has mentioned that Sonic 06 was originally supposed to be a reboot of the Sonic series for it's anniversary. I guess those last minute changes the devs couldn't fix the writing and narrative of the story.
@sush4nz1...74
@sush4nz1...74 Ай бұрын
Sonic is a shifter who always lives by the moment, he does whatever he thinks is right and him simply saying that is just him being a bit cocky, but he promised to save Elise and he did second Stage, then things are explained more clearly in a cutscene. Not every little nitpick needs to be turned into some major flaw.
@mariajimenafigueroa233
@mariajimenafigueroa233 Ай бұрын
Sonic could had told Elise that he's helping her to protect her from danger
@alwaysamongdragons7354
@alwaysamongdragons7354 Ай бұрын
@sush4nz1...74 He basically answered why he is helping with a resounding "Dunno". Every way you slice it, that's just bad writing. Even if you wanted to just say Sonic is just trying to save lives, sure, but in a well written story every statement should mean something. This ends with your first gameplay of Sonic introducing him with all the character depth of a Gary Stu. A statement that doesn't mean anything yet is fine, but something that ends up in total reader, or in this case player, bewilderment is badly written. ESPECIALLY for first impressions, you just don't do things like this. It sets the stage for the rest of the game, and as things do not improve when it comes to the writing, it never recovers from it, making this not just a nitpick but foreshadowing of the quality to expect going forward.
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 15 күн бұрын
​@@alwaysamongdragons7354 Im not opposed to the idea of somic saying something like that but it would sound better if he said something more like "heard from a birdy and i couldn't help myself" or " its just what i do" and while sure it makes him sound more like a typical super hero type it at least says more then "lol i dunno"
@jamison85
@jamison85 Ай бұрын
What an incredible milestone to finish 2024 with! Congratulations on the 50th episode, this was a blast to watch.
@aaa-f5t4u
@aaa-f5t4u Ай бұрын
first, i saw "23 minutes ago", then i saw the title, then i saw the runtime and then i said "oh yeah, it's all coming together"
@HeadHunter-mv2ht
@HeadHunter-mv2ht Ай бұрын
the most mind boggling part to me about the story is they wanted to pair sonic up with a princess. but instead of using a princess they already had (blaze the cat) who was already well liked by fans, and a cartoon animal like sonic, they instead make a realistic looking human princess (elise). then they shove blaze into silvers campaign instead , messing up her backstory, and having her do nothing of value until the end when she does a sacrifice that’s really just the writer stuffing her into a fridge. oh and then they made blaze’s sacrifice pointless immediately afterwards.
@seematahir5970
@seematahir5970 Ай бұрын
I think it's been said by 06's main writer that he wanted to do more with Blaze and have a more organic tie-in with Rush and there's a lot of things in 06 that are clear holdovers from Blaze's game. The Sol- prefix everywhere, Sonic's gems looking just like the Sol Emeralds, Blaze and Elise have very similar backstories, etc. It just didnt pan out, likely because it was rushed
@blazeybrocoli
@blazeybrocoli Ай бұрын
blaze's backstory, getting shitted on, is kinda dumb, as she is from a parallel dimension, implied multiple times in sonic rush and it's sequel but hey, that's what happens when you get a god awful deadline 😔
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 Ай бұрын
ofncourse then that means you';re getting selfcest instead, cause Blaze is implied to be an alternate universe SOnic
@sonic-po6tb
@sonic-po6tb 21 күн бұрын
​@@sarafontanini7051am no sonic and blaze are just dimensional counterparts, that is, different people fulfilling a similar role in dimensions, they are not the same person
@Ido_TV_Eye
@Ido_TV_Eye 10 күн бұрын
Silver will forever sound like a twink in my head, the Sonic Fandub is one of the greatest things the internet has given us
@Ruv562
@Ruv562 Ай бұрын
WE EATING GOOD TONIGHT BOYS
@redwolfe7049
@redwolfe7049 Ай бұрын
Funny enough I just bought dinner and saw this in my feed. We definitely are eating good tonight.
@kadenkingery
@kadenkingery Ай бұрын
we eat like Gods tonight
@hoki0624
@hoki0624 Ай бұрын
This is a feast!
@MadWinter889
@MadWinter889 Ай бұрын
No girls allowed.
@javathehunt790
@javathehunt790 Ай бұрын
“No dog food for Victor tonight.” And “Meats Back on the Menu Boys.”
@raelogan
@raelogan Ай бұрын
Iblis was released in the future because Elise died on the Egg Carrier when it crashed in the one timeline, so apparently the seal also breaks when she dies. Which begs the questions: "Why didn't Mephiles merge any other time???" And "Why didn't he kill Elise himself??" The only hint of hesitation I could imagine is maybe Mephiles has memories of Elise as a child visiting the lab, when he was still in Solaris' purest form, pre-explosion, and was like "I need to break the seal, but like... She was reeeeeeeally nice to me when I was a baby flame, so the least I can do just the bare minimum because I'm lazy."
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 Ай бұрын
Either that or "I've got all the time in the world and then some, might as well take the long but fun route. And by fun I mean making everyone suffer."
@raelogan
@raelogan Ай бұрын
@robertlupa8273 He's like: "I'm gonna cease to exist the moment I merge, so I might as well get my teenage stupidity phase over with before YOLO-ing into the Void."
@planescaped
@planescaped Ай бұрын
Ain't no bad story like a bad time travel story.
@extragoogleaccount6061
@extragoogleaccount6061 Ай бұрын
My question is why did this society worship a flame representing pure evil? Or why did the flame become pure evil?
@raelogan
@raelogan Ай бұрын
@extragoogleaccount6061 I always figured that the Solaris they were using was either a weak clone or wasn't a fully formed diety before the Incident. Considering that Sonic mentions a "True Solaris" near the end. Alternately, I'm sure that injecting it with agents and throwing a crapton of electricity into the mix while trapping it in a glass tube for science reasons did nothing to sway it's annoyance with humanity trying to harness its abilities. They pulled a Mewtwo Experiment on it, and it reacted accordingly. Honestly, kind of messed up that Elise seems to be under the belief that Solaris looks over Soleanna and protects it when she was there when the whole thing imploded and killed her dad. She was either severely traumatized and blocked that out of her memory, or she didn't comprehend that and whoever raised her up until Eggman showed up just told her the gist of it and hoped she wouldn't think otherwise. Either way, no wonder Mephiles and Iblis are perpetually ticked off.
@Montesama314
@Montesama314 Ай бұрын
"At least Elise isn't getting captured again--" CAPTURED
@TheImmortalCHUBS
@TheImmortalCHUBS Ай бұрын
Congratulations on the 50th episode!! Next recommendation: Shrek Extra Large
@stepkneeboi
@stepkneeboi Ай бұрын
OOOOH that'd make a great IJB ep lol, all i think about that games is when Caddicarus played it and spammed the burp button over and over again lmfao
@sircommissar
@sircommissar Ай бұрын
YOOO THE RETURN OF JUST BAD GAMES AND ITS THREE HOURS?? LETS GO
@mrbalazs1995
@mrbalazs1995 Ай бұрын
A 3 hours episode of Just Bad Games... This is like a dream come true... Thank you!
@TLtheDude
@TLtheDude Ай бұрын
Just casually remembering during the loading screens that Lythero completed a different sonic game while the game loaded
@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780
@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780 6 күн бұрын
the whole hero story of SA2 he beat it in the time it took for sonic 06 to load
@gamingonamonday6342
@gamingonamonday6342 Ай бұрын
Between this and Lytheros Sonic 06 video "The Silver Campaign" Ive been laughing at sonic 06 more than usual.
@sonicmaiden2871
@sonicmaiden2871 Ай бұрын
06 is a funny game. Both the bugs inside it and the videos made on it are funny.
@jalex.musica
@jalex.musica Ай бұрын
I remember liking this game when I was young and had no taste (and hadn’t played the story campaign). Everytime I fell to my doom, I assumed (but would never admit out loud) that it was on me. Growing up it was interesting to find out that it really was the game’s fault. The game could have been great if they took at least another year.
@Dreigonix
@Dreigonix Ай бұрын
I’ll admit, I actually have a weird kind of respect for Sonic 06. I like high-concept Sonic, and Sonic 06 is Sega shooting for the _furthest_ of stars and crashing face-first into a volcano on Mars. It’s a catastrophe, but damned if they didn’t _try_ to make something epic despite having half their resources and team ripped away from them. Speaking of which, now that Project 06 is a thing, we need a Secret Rings remake. There is a _lot_ to love about that game, and even though I never had a problem with the controls, it really does deserve a remake with more traditional controls.
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 Ай бұрын
Media disasters are fun because they make you think what could've been and that's fun.
@bluekewne
@bluekewne Ай бұрын
9:06 "Likes: nooks, crannies..." My word, that's Miles Edgeworth The Hedgehog
@StateBlaze1989
@StateBlaze1989 Ай бұрын
It's been so long since I've seen the actual footage of this game that I am more familiar with the Snapcube fan-dub than the real dialogue.
@G0ttaSmashTh3mAll
@G0ttaSmashTh3mAll Ай бұрын
1:48:17 A POV close-up on Rouge is something I didn't know Sonic 06 had. I keep discovering things about this game every time someone reviews it.
@SuperSquirrelStudioz
@SuperSquirrelStudioz Ай бұрын
8:07 THE FLAMES OF DISASTER! - Wade Wippple 2024
@camerona145
@camerona145 Ай бұрын
3 hour time commitment? 1 Lord of the Rings movie ❌️ Rerez Sonic 06 Review ✅️
@garrtoons4303
@garrtoons4303 Ай бұрын
So amazing of you that you made the long-waited review of one of the worst Sonic games your 50th episode.
@Hinokassaudifan1
@Hinokassaudifan1 Ай бұрын
This will be fun. only members remember the shotty audio original upload.
@akeultomo2213
@akeultomo2213 Ай бұрын
It was a different time then
@ShermTank7272
@ShermTank7272 Ай бұрын
I still hear the weird audio... was it even worse before?
@cjthecomposer02
@cjthecomposer02 Ай бұрын
​@@ShermTank7272During Sonic's story, the game dialogue and sounds were noticably more compressed while the other stories had crisp, clean audio
@AGZhark
@AGZhark Ай бұрын
The only Hinoka fan I know of
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel Ай бұрын
@@ShermTank7272It seems the footage from 06 is still compressed and messed up at least sone of the time, but the rest of the audio sounds fine, maybe previously everything else was messed up too?
@mr.d7177
@mr.d7177 Ай бұрын
This is great! Really love your videos, and appreciate you making them very very much. That this one is over 3 hours long is a big extra! Thank you!❤
@deathsyth8888
@deathsyth8888 Ай бұрын
Some people say that 'Sonic the Hedgehog' (2006) is still loading to this day.
@Superstar5_
@Superstar5_ Ай бұрын
Fun fact: This review was so long that I was able to beat Super Mario World’s Star World before the video finished! (Advance version)
@AceJackWagon885
@AceJackWagon885 Ай бұрын
But did you get both exits with Luigi?
@Blueflag04
@Blueflag04 Ай бұрын
You can beat the game under 10 minutes if you know what to do
@Superstar5_
@Superstar5_ Ай бұрын
@@AceJackWagon885Is there something special if you do?
@AceJackWagon885
@AceJackWagon885 Ай бұрын
@@Superstar5_ No...but Luigi is objectively cooler.
@williamstewart9031
@williamstewart9031 Ай бұрын
Congratulations on reaching 50 episodes of Just Bad Games. There was no other way to celebrate the milestone by talking about one of the legendarily s**t games to ever exist. A game so bad the effects are still being felt to this day. And you did it with a level of detail that I haven't seen a lot of people do while talking about this crime against video games. Thanks for making the three hours I spent watching this video worth it, and for whatever you're doing next for JBG... may the video game gods have mercy.
@skuffy4930
@skuffy4930 Ай бұрын
I was hyper disappointed that these two apparently don't know who Blaze is...
@shadownightdragon6524
@shadownightdragon6524 Ай бұрын
Who?
@skuffy4930
@skuffy4930 Ай бұрын
@shadownightdragon6524 purple cat lady.
@blazeybrocoli
@blazeybrocoli Ай бұрын
​@@skuffy4930tbf, sonic rush isn't Sonic's most popular adventure either, but yeah I was confused, when they didn't know who that cat lady was 💀
@lydiagalantmotherf
@lydiagalantmotherf Ай бұрын
I think they meant more that she's not explained in this game, and that because it's unclear whether she IS the Rush Blaze, that she's basically a new unknown character who's never really explained and not them not knowing who she is, they even say so in the video at the beginning in text below Blaze
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 Ай бұрын
@@lydiagalantmotherf blaze in rush and blaze in this game being the same person makes absolutely no sense btw and jsut makes her story overly convoluted if it was so. After all, her deal is she's an alternate universe Sonic. Hell, her personality is completely different.
@ZeroCrystal
@ZeroCrystal Ай бұрын
5:32 That's not sweat coming from Shane's eyes. That looks like blood... Oh dear sweet Hedgehog Buddha, this is gonna hurt...
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Ай бұрын
Dear master king.
@NothingHereForYou
@NothingHereForYou Ай бұрын
The amount of Game Grumps moments I’m reliving in my head while watching this is insane
@Nzcade
@Nzcade Ай бұрын
This game was BOUND to be reviewer, and now finally here it is
@Vigriff
@Vigriff Ай бұрын
A piss poor Final Fantasy game featuring Sonic characters.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Ай бұрын
Looks like none future ff13.
@Vigriff
@Vigriff Ай бұрын
@@joshshrum2764 I'd say FF13 is more coherent though it most certainly has its own issues.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Ай бұрын
@@Vigriff FF13 is also more playable. And I say that as someone who absolutely hates every decision made about FF13 because there could have been a good game in there if they hadn't had a hard-on for "cinematic experiences" in the lead team. Comparing FF13 to Sonic 2006 is like if you compared Sonic 1 to Somari.
@josephfrye7342
@josephfrye7342 Ай бұрын
No 💩 @Vigriff and @joshshrum2764 this is why sonic 06 never made it to pc port because 2 console ports are garbage 🗑
@citrus_yellow
@citrus_yellow Ай бұрын
@@neoqwertysomari was pretty decent (though I may be blinded by nostalgia seeing as it was my first game)
@MCDexpo
@MCDexpo 24 күн бұрын
The entire tangent about the characters that appear in this game only being from Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 is rendered moot because Sonic heroes was on PS2 and Xbox which had the characters that appear in this game
@johnshea7871
@johnshea7871 19 күн бұрын
Also shadow the hedgehog was on xbox and ps2 as well but that game was poorly received
@TiStardust
@TiStardust Ай бұрын
You’ve revealed dozens of ways this game sucks that I didn’t even realize. Thanks!
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