NijiEN VTubers Are Waiting To Exit Agency, Hololive Almost Broke The Law, Ina Can't Work In Japan

[@ImVeryMuchBored]

"So I told them, 'You can leave anytime you want' Yknow, like a liar." -Vox Akuma, probably

[@dontaedon5182]

"I understood that reference."

[@farid2672]

John Mulaney?

[@D_D_Delta]

​@@farid2672 ye

[@steventonche1037]

​@@farid2672"And I had that thought that only I, and Steve Urkel could have....did I do that ..?"

[@TheJjcczz]

The problem with that is if the company has enough leverage to keep them from leaving then they have enough leverage to make the talents do and say whatever the company wants. This was an early concern during that whole period

[@Cream.o.]

There being a graduation queue gives both feelings of relief and sadness honestly.

[@javierpasten7568]

dont be sad, they are going to a better life

[@KenjaTimu]

They could just leave. There is zero chance Niji would do anything. Their contract is laughably illegal. They are probably owed money and are hoping to collect it. But everyone who has left says Niji still owes them money so that ain't happening.

[@RynAwara]

​@@KenjaTimu probably easier to not burn bridges, especially if any of them has aspirations to when for another Japanese employee. That's my best guess. That or lack of legal literacy

[@mechKohji]

@@KenjaTimu regardless of how laughably illegal the contract is, it would still need to be taken to court for the final say, which is something alot of people would prefer to avoid, and for good reason, court processes are expensive and stressful.

[@KenjaTimu]

@@mechKohji no. Niji would have to take you to court for breach of contract. And the case would be immediately thrown out of court. They would also be opening themselves up for counter claims. It's easy to piggyback on someone else's lawsuit that way. If, say for example, they still owed you money. You could literally just write in pen on the back that they owed you money and that is a counter claim.

[@JDeO1997]

That's interesting hearing about the long-assumed queue being real. Also makes me wonder who's going to be next

[@mrroboshadow]

while the specific order is up in the air you can just look at whoever is beeing left in the dust as it were remember what preceeded victoria's graduation getting left out of projects that she wasnt even told were happening, (i think) she got a song canceled or delayed (im not sure) and generally a sense of pretending she doesnt exist

[@holographicwing]

I checked on Ren's channel and dude hasn't released music in a year and has been phoning it in hard the last month with tons of zatsus. He was always hard working, it reminds me of when Mysta burned out and was mentally checked out so I would say him. A lot of the rest will probably not make anywhere near as much money as they make in niji if they go.

[@Mint_River11]

Even matara said in kuro stream that on the day she ask michi to left she said "i know several people who planning to leave too" which mean there is a waiting list. Michi also said they make you wait for forever to get on the list (ignored dan deflecting convo) while squeeze your merch as much as they can

[@hippybecca]

@@holographicwing It will be interesting to see what he does if he leaves. I won't give out details but he doesnt have the typical vtuber past.

[@deepseashigure]

Place your bets!

[@rpgaholic8202]

I really don't follow most Niji stuff, but I feel bad for all the Ls that Victoria Brightshield took in her time. She looked up to Selen and Pomu, both of them leave the company. She's a huge NBA fan, gets left out of the NBA merch collab. Other news/gossip folks had said she even considered giving up on streaming after graduating from Niji, but I'm glad the fan support outpouring turned her around.

[@WillZuidema]

What was WORSE was that some that didn't like the sport AT ALL participated, but they didn't even bother to ask the NBA fan? That just literally shows they don't pay attention to their livers.

[@GeovaneSanciniSR]

The last straw for Vivi must have been the SF6 Sajam Slam when Niji didn't allowed her to interact with Doki at all

[@TyrantWesker]

@@GeovaneSanciniSR Considering they have to wait in the queue for months to graduate, it's likely she was already on the waiting list by the time Sajam Slam happened.

[@GeovaneSanciniSR]

@TyrantWesker hmm, that's right.

[@WillZuidema]

@@KhoiruunisaRF Flopped. like their concerts.

[@jimmytsunami5275]

So much for Vox Akuma saying “you can retire anytime”

[@sugarqbs]

maybe “you can apply to retire at anytime, after which management will drag their feet and maybe add you to a queue of graduations” didn’t sound succinct enough

[@Mint_River11]

I bet they can never let go of any luxiem and uki anymore even if they begging to death. Idk if that is a blessing or a curse

[@lexmarks567]

@@jimmytsunami5275 you can just f*cking ask to move to the front of the line. Claude probably

[@RatedShadowXrd]

@@Mint_River11 Luxiem (Mainly Luca and Vox, maybe Ike), Uki, Elira and the rest of the "cliques"(Enna, Millie, Kotoka, Finana, etc.) already sealed their fate.

[@IdaliBaez-em8ei]

At least is good to know that vivi is going to be okay once she leaves. Also I thought shu was a nice person @Mint_River11. You say that like all of luxiem is bad. Only vox Ike and Luca are the guilty ones. What did shu do?

[@trevorweisberg8470]

I imagine False is that one guy with the pizzas from the meme walking into chaos with all the news that happened while he was gone.

[@smaragdwolf1]

stay away from the Subculture for too long and you become Parrot XD Folders full of Material, enough for Months of editing Videos^^

[@Geoff69420]

Not sure if his reaction to the fire is more Chalmers ("Good Lord, what is happening in there!?") or Nichijou ( TT _ TT )

[@Ai_M3talloidX7]

Ah, a fellow Community enjoyer.

[@undead_opera_singer]

​@@Ai_M3talloidX7I don't think a Community fan would call Troy "that one guy with the pizzas from the meme"

[@trevorweisberg8470]

@@undead_opera_singer Correct, I couldn't even remember the name of the show it came from. :x

[@HRDSalami654]

Seeing Victoria's video about her reason for graduating was one of the most heartbreaking things I've ever seen. It's one thing to not like who you are working for, but it's something entirely different when the place you're working for breaks any desire to do what you love and makes you hate it. I hope she finds happiness because it's obvious she deserves it.

[@bonogiamboni4830]

She even said explicitly "it's because of people who don't know me or care about me" and then specified "i mean the niji executives".

[@WillZuidema]

Hers and Pomu's really show the depths this company sinks to. Sad.

[@bonogiamboni4830]

@@WillZuidema eh i know you're not supposed to compare grief but i think maybe selen's and zaion's cases were even more obvious evidence of that.

[@WillZuidema]

@@bonogiamboni4830 It is not comparing grief - it is that both people were, after termination PROVEN to have been wrongly vilified. That is what can't be forgiven. These people were also supposed to be their friends, yet badmouthed them like that? Just wrong on all levels.

[@mynameisidj1719]

​@@bonogiamboni4830lmao ur lying, she is talking about you the antis

[@Aerensianic]

One good thing to come put of TTT is Vivi and Kunai's friendship. Wish those two all the best.

[@Earliersphere]

I think they will do well

[@ryanvenjoyer]

# MoguMoguSunny (pls Okayu don't sue me)

[@Kyoumadfan]

Mogusplosion!

[@AkaSora96]

Being one of the biggest Vtuber companies and having a graduation queue is crazy.

[@WillZuidema]

Ant they are getting smaller.. and smaller... Look up form Terry Pratchett's "Small Gods" What happened to The God Nuggan. He also went out kicking and screaming, and very toxic to his followers...

[@mynameisidj1719]

Like hololive :)

[@bogidream]

​@@mynameisidj1719Man, Niji has got more graduations than Hololive.

[@AkaSora96]

@@mynameisidj1719 the queue in Hololive is for the people that want to join, not for the for the ones that want to leave.

[@akun50]

@@mynameisidj1719 Dude, Hololive has had 20-ish graduations and 1 doing-her-own-thing non-graduation, and a VAST majority of those who graduated are well regarded and still acknowledged by the company. Sure, if you consider they've had 108 members, a roughly 18-19% loss isn't great. But consider the following: Niji JP _ALONE_ has had 26 graduations, ID and KR add another 13 and 15 respectively, IN and EN has 10+ graduations and it's well known that there's a queue to leave. On top of that, to everyone's knowledge, there's not such queue to leave Hololive. With 210 talent total, a loss of 30-31% and GROWING is comparatively worse than Hololive. Don't forget that collabs between members of different gens and even agencies are welcome in Hololive, whereas collabs with NijiJP and NijiEN are all but openly forbidden at this point and members of NijiEN have been forbidden from interacting with a number of former talent.

[@Gorbz]

I think it was implied by Matara and Michi that Niji managers ghosted their talents when it came to requesting granduation, so that they would miss the contract window and have to keep on working for them.

[@gibmeaway100]

Ghosted or just pure incompetence as Michi also never got a proper NDA, just like kurosanji messed up NDA's with artists

[@Earliersphere]

I mean Minto said she had wanted to graduate back in May of 2023 but wasn't allowed to rill January 2024. She was likely getting ghosted and slow walked for that happening.

[@Lavi-qr7eh]

Doki specifically said that collab with Dooby wont happen in the near future but they do plan it at some point.

[@greed-1914]

2024 was clearly the time that the difference in resources between the big agencies and everyone else was made known. So many small and middle sized agencies closed..You can't run a company with staff with the resources of a smaller indie. The sad part of these recent ones is that these weren't bad companies that we have seen utterly collapse. These were good ones that tried to make it work.

[@manhealme]

Yeah it's also the fact the vtuber boom that started thanks to coincidentally the pandemic (one of the very few good things to come out off) has died down and now stabilizing

[@daisukeniwa402645]

You need money to keep a company running

[@shrimper5316]

Well on zumis new Twitter she had some tweets(now deleted) that she didn't have the best time in eien and she said that her final paycheck was in the negative so eien might not have been the best corpo

[@Earliersphere]

common problem with start up companies, you got like a 80% failure rate at least the good one's seem to try and do right by the Vtubers in giving or selling the IP to them.

[@akun50]

Saddest part is parasitic companies like Kurosanji and Wactor get to stay alive when better and more deserving companies fold.

[@glucen4408]

the whole selen/dokibird situation really destroyed nijisanji as a company and how its viewed by the public

[@ItsDKoda]

@@glucen4408 So much for not going to impact the company

[@MadeUnavailable]

They were already at a bad spot before, - with suzuhara lulu leaving due to some big problems that nijisanji didn't actually act upon. - then what made it worse was nina, mika and mysta leaving, that's from bad to worse. - then followed by pomu not being allowed to do a dream collab followed by her departure, that's from worse to worst. - then selen/doki incident, now this is the nail the coffin, followed by an immediate burial.

[@magnaortusars3342]

It's honestly not even surprising. I anticipated something bad was going to happen after I saw Selen get screwed repeatedly over a span of 3 months, "If Selen graduates or is terminated, Nijisanji is done." I only thought that because Selen was too big, too respected and worked too hard for her to leave abruptly. After she got terminated, it went even worse than I anticipated. She didn't necessarily destroy Nijisanji, she was just the final nail in the coffin. Nijisanji destroyed itself.

[@matasa7463]

@@magnaortusars3342 She almost died... Niji would have literal blood on their hands if the worst had happened. I hold them accountable and I would recommend any streamers to avoid affiliating with such pond scum. They didn't protect their JP members either.

[@NicolasBelmont]

@@ItsDKoda "Negligible" they said. While I don't wish to pray for the downfall of someone... if the company goes under that would certain fast track the graduation queue. The words "graduation queue" coming out of my mouth like a vile piece of food.

[@sugarqbs]

TTT dropped without ceremony and only one of the original 3 has lasted through the first year. The talents and the fans all deserved better

[@clawyraptor9029]

​@@KhoiruunisaRF it's depressing honestly....

[@burpyy8]

Other agencies: Expecting new debut Ninisani: Expecting new graduation

[@mynameisidj1719]

Yes Hololive with 3 recent graduation and them doing a redebut with a big smile. Well well well

[@kanzaki2672]

@@mynameisidj1719 I see no Hololive mentioned in the comment(?)

[@ODDnanref]

​@@mynameisidj1719 For 1, they are not queuing to graduate.

[@burpyy8]

@@mynameisidj1719 well well well indeed

[@PlasmaMongoose]

Imagine working for a company that is so bad, you have to wait in line for months just to quit.

[@nuxxism]

Common Japanese occurrence. unfortunately. There are agencies people pay to help them detangle themselves from the jobs they don't like (agencies like Exit and Albatross).

[@Strlz_Remtachi]

YESSS!!! I feel bad for Vivi coz literally after debuting her Oshi Senpais graduated and she was treated unfairly specially on Sajam Slam~ good thing she'll leave the agency now!! Wishing her the best for her... uhmm you know~ "next journey"

[@daisukeniwa402645]

Nijisanji hardly ever promoted TTT or Vivi

[@omrmajeed]

@@daisukeniwa402645 They never even named the group. TTT was a name they gave themselves later.

[@daisukeniwa402645]

@@omrmajeed Claude is the only one left

[@omrmajeed]

@@daisukeniwa402645 I know. There is no more TTT in Nov.

[@paulsd9255]

Graduated? They terminated the other one with extreme prejudice.

[@BlueLoveYT]

Niji doesn’t deserve Vivi

[@Anathematise]

Niji betrayed and failed her and her community so hard...

[@WhatssupYoo]

@@Anathematise Not only Niji, but some of the livers too. They barely invited her to do much...

[@alexvp9344]

Niji doesnt deserve most of its talents ngl

[@IkeaOrca569]

Rosemi next please. Please i want our president to be back

[@WillZuidema]

Niji doesn't deserve ANY of their talent... ..Except Vox, Elira, anyone else that paricipated in the black video and throwing Selen and Sayu Under the bus. They can keep the trash.

[@willjerden7024]

Was just thinking the other day, "What happened to False and TVS?" Welcome back crew!

[@ricekeks]

Is that a TB-hat I see in your profile? My respect to you sir/madam o7

[@ImPipkinrick]

*flashbacks* to Millie saying it's not a black company and the meme clip of her saying "high turnover rate"

[@yuenasty]

“oh no! are you sure you asked mane-chan for approval to comment?”

[@ichiroutakami4189]

@@yuenasty I can hear sarcasm or mocking someone in her tone back then.

[@daisukeniwa402645]

Cover/Hololive do make mistakes. The thing with hololive is that they admit those mistakes and learn from those mistakes, so it won't happen again. Do you ever see nijisanji ever admitting to those mistakes or wrong doing. Nijisanji does a lot of wrong things, but they never admit it or never learn from it

[@scienceteam9254]

We got an apology video KEKW

[@plundypops]

"If those live2d artists didn't want to do multiple late revisions after already finalizing they could have just asked not to." -Claude Clawmark probably

[@kucingoyen1]

​@@scienceteam9254it's apology for the shareholders

[@gurugurumawaru7869]

​@@scienceteam9254That one where they apologized to the investors, right? Cuz there's no such thing as their apology towards the harmed talents nor to the offended fans.

[@Steven9567]

well at least with the ceo once hes gone who knows

[@plundypops]

I am so glad Vivi got out of there. She doesn't deserve the soulcrushing that company gave her and if she comes back to streaming I'll catch her streams but can understand her reticence on doing streaming like Mint was questioning after she left.

[@XXSoulxEvans]

A certain ghost recently reappeared as a guest on SunnySplosion's stream. Check out MoguGhost and SunnySplosion's twitch for future content (doesn't seem they have anything new on YT, though Sunny recently unprivated some older vids)

[@juances]

Why is there a queue anyways? If they want to graduate just let them. If it's to keep appearances because it'd look bad if 10 livers graduated at once... well it's kinda too late for that, their rep is already in the dumps so may as well get over with it as fast as possible instead of drag it out.

[@Sierlea]

Yea it's a rep thing. Sure their rep is int the toilet but all leaving at once draws a lot more attention to it, and it also discourages people from quitting knowing it'll be a drawn out hassle.

[@NightKev]

It's probably to prevent themselves from looking bad to investors, not the general public.

[@Papa-Corn]

^this. Almost every shareholders meeting seems to have an investor asking the question concerning graduations and why there's so many of them, and Riku's blatantly fabricated response is usually along the lines of "we're sorry that our talents decide to leave after we realized their potential, but it's their choice. We still have plenty of active talents and more coming in." He can't spin that bullsh*t if an entire branch walks out at once, it's irrefutable evidence that the company is failing. Even the most gullible investors will see the writing on the wall.

[@nujevad28]

It might be related to severance pay as well.

[@mn_kr]

theyd need to explain those in their financial report to their investors😂

[@tiredtortoise3396]

Welcome back! I can almost hear Penumbral's sigh of relief at not being alone anymore.

[@WardOfSouls]

He's either going to lead off with the TVS return, or use it as his closing gag. No in between.

[@sunnybirbz]

Still awaiting for rosemi's inevitable graduation.

[@Jmt1000XD]

@@funghiman8492I hope Reimu, Kotoka and Rosemi leave. I don’t watch Kotoka, but I can tell she’s had a rough time recently. Though I do like Rosemi and Reimu, I just want them to be a bit more free with their activities. I especially want to see Rosemi and Matara and Mint to collaborate :)

[@Earliersphere]

I mean Mata is still in contact with her, so hopefully she get's out soon. Either way we all eagerly await the livers getting out of that hell corp.

[@MrHardfoot]

I really hope that Wosemi gets out. She's such a sweetie.

[@marcusalm7350]

The Niji subreddit was planning to Oceans 11 her out of there in some commentsections

[@KendraSinclair]

I can't wait to support Mogu and see where she goes

[@juandriver6025]

She needs all the love

[@joseflazar3166]

It's good to support your favorite streamer behind the curtain.

[@FreakGeSt]

Lastly graduation meaning is more close to the actual word, now they can make money for their own instead of depending of someone bigger.

[@brettrichardson7924]

i work at a billion dollar company and they still forget contractor hours and get things lost in communication, am glad to see cover is taking the right approach and paying late interest, many artist/riggers rely on their commisions heavily

[@Ryw316]

Hope we get plenty of future Doob/Doki collabs.

[@goldyboi]

DOOKIE COLLAB

[@omrmajeed]

@@goldyboi Lets not use that word. Nijisisters use it as a "slur" against Doki on social media. They have been doing so for last 9 months.

[@HXIIIAEGIS]

Nah,Mint also are interested with collabing with dooby. I've seen people call these 3 collab as Spooky Dooki

[@Adziel]

@omrmajed as much I understand your point, why not flood them with our usage of dookie to limit their effect

[@r99azm80]

@@Adziel IKR. Just keep using the word in another positive meaning and watch those freaks meltdown on their own.

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

Reads the video title... WAH?!

[@-Raylight]

-AK47- *"Graduation for everyone!!"* **Mobs cheer noises* Glad Vivi is free. Oh look at that ghost girl called Mogu, she's cute! Go follow her everyone xD

[@klombernzx]

WE HAVE BIGGER GUNS

[@krivdik]

Now that is a reference I have not heard in a long time.

[@Earliersphere]

Mogu and sunny give us our second set of thief+ghost pairing from ex members, hopefully we get to see the 4 collab sometime

[@imagination2003]

BRIGHTER THAN THE SUN!

[@feetusgaming779]

a Command & Conquer Generals reference in the year of our lord 2024? I am in the right timeline

[@FuyuBiyori]

I don't know if it was a "redebut", but we also had a former space girl in Hololive stream as Namie.

[@Scudboy17]

She is not alone

[@nuxxism]

That is her formal artist ID, from before Holo. She has streamed on it before, even after graduating as Sana, but not for the last year. She is not a streamer, she is an artist who occasionally streams.

[@davidjohnson4171]

Just say Sana, ffs.

[@Sac-chan]

@@davidjohnson4171 fr, these weirdos acting like they're superior or smth for not revealing public info, i get some may get the idea that doing this is right bc it "protects" the talent's PL....but the damn account is public

[@smaragdwolf1]

14:00 i wonder how many People can identify on that Chart (on the right), what Twitch doesnt want to see (unless its "pool" streamer-girls). Its about the outlines... or should i say the inlines? And that shows the difference between fleshtubers and VTubers. Fleshtubers have physical, 3D bodies where this can happen with too tight Clothes. But a virtual Avatar doesnt have this issue. I cant remember to ever seeing a VTuber Model that is designed to be SO detailed in that areas. Using the exact same Bodyrules for virtual Avatars as for living, breathing Fleshtubers is insane. o7 to the VTubers Companies that have to close. Thank you for your Service.

[@evilmiera]

Wait a minute... just back from a 3 week trip to Japan... am I FalseEyeD?!

[@CrimsonDX]

I will continue to follow all of my EIEN oshis no matter what form they take

[@Kinzoku_jp]

im kinda curious how it relates to Kilia, she must have known right?

[@IcyDragonPolaris]

Stronny must be feeling *real* vindicated rn

[@zierlyn]

​@Kinzoku_jp Nope. She found out around when the current members were told, somewhere in the first couple of weeks of October, a month after her graduation. Note, this timing is entirely speculation based upon several members uncharacteristically cancelling streams around the same time. But while the timing is speculation, the fact she didn't know until after the rest of the talents knew was at least verbally stated.

[@Krikenemp18]

Any idea where Kiki went after graduation?

[@Kinzoku_jp]

@@zierlyn I guess bad timing, I wonder if they offered her to buy IP back. Whether she is out of content creation entirely is something i dont know

[@evasesh6585]

There were 4 ex-holo talents that came back this month, you forgot Sana started streaming back on her PL

[@Geoff69420]

Not sure if she's "returned to streaming" so much as "she had a single stream". I'd wait at least until she has a second stream before we can say "she's returned to streaming."

[@sugarqbs]

@@Geoff69420yeah, she hadn’t streamed for about a year prior but before that she had a few streams, nothing regular tho

[@daisukeniwa402645]

Call her namie, she doesn't want to be known as Sana anymore.

[@eonaon6914]

Oh? Whats the name?

[@Artista_Frustrado]

Namie returned so she could propose to Shadow, proof that he really is the UIltimate Life Form

[@dead-claudia]

0:18 wow that's a hell of an opening false being out and the hiatus being less of a hiatus and more of just constant investigation this one's gonna be JUICY

[@OmenOfStorms]

The Cover Corporation situation feels like being made an example of less than them being the only ones

[@velveteensallet949]

It is. According to many of the creators Cover works with, such as Polka's and Luna's illustrators, this is extremely common and Cover is actually better than most about it. But it's still not a great state of affairs and Cover making sure to avoid a repeat before the law even comes into effect is a good thing.

[@BigBoss2808]

​@velveteensallet949 feels to me that it's not really a punishment and more like "new rule will take effect so be like Cover and pay your subcontractors early and fairly" they needed a big company to be the example and standard moving forward. Why not niji, you may ask. I'd gather JTC would have found more violations and no guarantee yet niji would reaolve it on time so even if they we're technically the bigger company, in reality Cover is the face of the whole vtubing industry so might as well work with them.

[@HXIIIAEGIS]

And its a good thing.This ensure other Vtuber agency to be more vigilant and mindful to pay up their artists. Hit the biggest guy in the industry and smaller ones will more or less follow up what Cover did and be mindful of future artist commission and payment.

[@dead-claudia]

@@HXIIIAEGISor if they don't, they're in for a whole lot of hurt

[@raisofahri5797]

​​@@BigBoss2808actually cover Is bigger than niji in financial sense. recently their shares and market cap are already higher than anycolor

[@ohnoanotherputz]

I am not surprised that a bunch of Niji streamers want out.

[@AstronScion]

Thank you for the news. WE ARE SO BACK

[@SaigaTenshi]

Did False say secret trup from Japan? Either a secret or False went to Sakura Miko's concert

[@purebaldness]

TVS is a treasure. Welcome back. It's great to have a grasp as to what's going off across the industry and this is the best, no nonsense place to find that out.

[@ronaldvexdian2182]

Honestly, I have to wonder what Claude is thinking. Regardless of how I feel about him defending Nijisanji with his play button comment, I can’t imagine how bad it feels to be the last member of his gen. His Gen only showed up a year ago, and both of his gen-mates have left with less than positive goodbyes. TTT is now just T. Also, as a Kunai fan, god does it sting seeing her model being no longer used. Her model was cool. I hope Vivi is able to move past this, and I hope Mint and Doki give her some encouraging words.

[@WhatssupYoo]

From my perspective he never cared much about his wave mates. He did more collabs with other people than with TTT, not to mention he knew 'the clique' from before Niji times, so....

[@lexmarks567]

claude is probaly hoping to be the only EN liver left so he can have riku all to himself.

[@wanderingwind6602]

I think he's doing fine sucking up to the powers that be... He didn't seem too attached to his gen mates.

[@zeasygamers1189]

But vivi seems to care about him since she try to protect her saying not to bully claude and not talk bad about him live on her stream

[@katherinestardragon4386]

Claude has a day job in tech land, his income unable to sustain him even in his pl, so we know why he had to Stan hard, nearly losing a house before joining niji is a huge debuff.

[@mrskeet7307]

Glad you’re back, it’s good to keep up on the news.

[@mynameisidj1719]

About false news

[@frobsonsdesenhos]

​@@mynameisidj1719 yeah that's the name of his Channel fellow NDF

[@朱溫宜]

I wonder why false never covers Kage drama.

[@sleeplessindefatigable6385]

Graduations will continue until morale improves. Also, props to you, False, for doing all the interviews and journalism for this. Actually dope reporting work.

[@Fahmi4869]

Yagoo: "We apologize to our fans, creators & business partners" Riku Tazumi: "We apologize to our shareholders"

[@The_Fatal_Flaws]

so i'm curious as to how u got the info about dooby and yuki sakuna now i'm not asking for too much detail just wanna make sure it them cus i was a fan of them back then

[@kooo_5552]

Vivi "What caused me to have made this decision are people that'll probably never care and probably don't know anything about me...but y'know we're all taking that brunt, aren't we?" It's clear who she meant by that.

[@mynameisidj1719]

Yeah the antis like almost everybody here. (The mods hates all of you btw)

[@kuroganekaze]

@@mynameisidj1719 Cry harder sister.

[@frobsonsdesenhos]

​@@mynameisidj1719 lmao watch the clip correctly nijisister

[@V14K]

Lmao not surprising the only guy from that wave left is the nepo clique guy

[@zeasygamers1189]

Honestly i find it interesting that vivi try to protect him live saying to not say bad thing to him so i dont know what to think anymore

[@V14K]

@zeasygamers1189 I'm just hating on the NIJI nepotism with the (alleged?) bullies and/or enablers.

[@labmediacasual3368]

Scarle was really the only Niji talent I watched before boycotting Niji I know it sounds greedy but I hope she branches out on her own so I could watch her again 😢

[@Yo.te.conozco]

At this point I might boycott Niji too because they doing to much……

[@Jmt1000XD]

I like Scarle too. I don’t think she’s leaving anytime soon cause she’s been able to roll with the punches. I wish her luck. I’d probably predict Rosemi to leave soon if I was a betting man. I know Matara said that she’s the last good friend she left behind. Her “Rosey” friend she calls her. :)

[@xjakanton2576]

@@Yo.te.conozco Just now? Wow, you sure are too patient.

[@meisterl0]

​@@Jmt1000XD wow, she didn't mention her gen mates at all in that?

[@Jmt1000XD]

@@meisterl0 well, just cause they are her gen mates doesn’t mean she’s particularly close to them. I’m sure they are friendly, but not to the level of Rosemi. It makes sense cause even when she was in Niji, Matara’s closest friends were Michi and Kuro. Being a gen mate doesn’t always tell the whole story.

[@Komo47]

Keep fighting the good fight False.

[@Spedatr0n]

WE’RE SO BACK!!

[@jesselockhart1230]

RETURN OF THE NEWSMACK!!

[@allenellisdewitt]

13:11 Honestly, thank you for showing the friggin important context.

[@mawheels298]

Aged like milk

[@kazeryu4834]

So, we have confirmation of what we all kinda knew now. I forget were the rumors of an exit queue before or after Selen tried to cancel her life subscription?

[@raeoverhere923]

Well before, rumors of a queue started around the time Kuro left.

[@CraX_Ez]

JDONMY T-Shirt, JDONMY Acrylic Stand, JDONMY SOUL

[@ravenwisha]

Even with all the bummer news, I never realized how much I missed False and the whole crew. We are so back.

[@jukonee]

Any thoughts on holo graduation?

[@MCguy52]

Sad that Kawaii and Eien is closing down. Small corpo love.

[@playallconsoles]

Welcome back, homie. Too bad there was so much bad news to have to cover on return.

[@MomoHitsujiOwO]

Welcome back False!!! ❤

[@joelgray4403]

Shoutout to EIEN for promoting the indie channels of the girls who aren't keeping their IP, it's a little thing but it shows they care

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

Welcome back, False! Kinda wish you could let the other reporters fill in for you, really missed the usual news updates!

[@TheKenchanx]

Also, some of us heard a familiar voice playing sanic this week...

[@banaynayy]

Just a few hours ago I was thinking there hasn't been a new False video. That's been fixed I see

[@chaotickvs]

RIP to EIEN and Kawaii Production 😢

[@Adyen11234]

I feel very bad for Ina for all the time and money spent and then completely dashed. Its things like this that really dampens a vtuber's enthusiasm.

[@Earliersphere]

hearing her talk about it on stream sucked, you could hear how disappointed and pissed she was. Which say's a lot for someone as chill as Ina is, I hope things can get resolved and the company does right and makes her whole for the fuck up.

[@melfice999]

@@Earliersphere More than likely, this was Japanese immigration and visa issue, as they can be real pain, to the point of once having a man's stay revoked, despite his pregnant wife whom was japanese, being with him to apply for renewed stay. Or preventing a work visa application renewal, despite the employee being there with their employer, only to get a "computer says no" treatment

[@TriChaser]

I love that so many Vtubers are turning indies! Hope to see more crazy unexpected collabs from all of these.

[@TheJjcczz]

The whole graduation queue reopens the whole leverage issue from Doki situation of if the company has enough leverage to prevent talents from leaving then they also have enough leverage to make talents do and say whatever the company wants. Thus the question of who said what willingly and who if any was forced to defend the company despite not wanting to

[@TheNidface]

The queue has been confirmed

[@kamo7293]

twitch staff irl string bikini: ayy okay vtuber hips: HERESY! edit: also a lot of people like that sero person say the same thing, that you broke the rules and suffered. but the problem isn't in the rules, but the implementation and enforcement of them. see my original comment. twitch 'says' that the attire rule is for everyone but in implementation or enforcement, they do not crack down on irl streamers. said creators are using a kiddie pool in the far background of their stream to allow it under the pools category but anyone with a sane mind can tell that this could be categorised as violation evading.

[@drango]

Welcome back False! Good luck catching up on all the everything that's happened over the past few weeks.

[@etilworg]

welcome back!

[@InkIdiot]

The graduation queue being confirmed feels like when the characters in persona 3 find out that shadows only attack on full moons.

[@purebaldness]

0:23 - it's kind of telling that _all_ her expressions on that brush up 3.0 thumbnail look pretty distraught...

[@twistedhazards]

Its a shame that so many smaller corpos are shutting down but it is something to be expected given the major saturation of vtubers on the internet and the burst of the bubble that was built from covid endlessly expanding. Here is hoping Idol gets to keep going well and doesn't end up another victim of Sony in the long run.

[@haveabadcold]

thanks to CEO's serious and quick action, the stock price is skyrocketing...

[@arsenblackwell]

I'm curious to know who you talked to.

[@GCJACK83]

Why wait? Niji's livers should run for the doors now. Tazumi can't stop everyone. They should leave and pick up their PL accounts again while making it fully well known where they'll be going so anyone who wants to follow them can. Also, if the graduation queue is real, then the Grand Unified Rrat theory is also 100% real and no longer just a theory.

[@katherinestardragon4386]

Graduation queue is merely just one of them, the clique stuff is still behind the scenes unknown information yet, until further information, let's not start something yet. We might end up messing those wanting to leave.

[@mynameisidj1719]

​@@katherinestardragon4386waiting so we know how hololive is f*cked up

[@Crosshill]

remember that leaked termination/graduation thing we saw? we dont know if that was the final form offered to livers, and whether the ex-livers have signed them, or whether they're in a position to legally dispute it, or whether they typoed their name and never fixed it so the liver isnt legally bound by it. they might have to wait for the graduation queue whether they want to or not, and until the queue is empty we cant tell who might be part of a clique. they seem to be jumping ship as fast as they can already, have patience and dont cause trouble

[@bdbgh]

8:42 There's 4 if you count the warm eternal bread playing hedgehog game

[@Alikaoz]

Welcome back, boss

[@MSTR3_]

We are back indeed

[@linuxares]

I just like that the Subtractor law comes alive. It means there is finally guidance for the whole industry.

[@luxxxssrb1044]

So i saw a clip about Vivi saying "don't be to mean to Claude" and when i see the comments section, Holy is Unhinged..... Saying Mika is wrong etc...... (About the play button)

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

You can find Nijisisters here on this video, coping to the point of lunacy. "Unhinged" is really an understatement. It's at the same point as religion or politics to them. We're living in reality, and they're living in Meet the Pyro.

[@Sierlea]

Aw, I liked Eien! Though with Kilia leaving it's not entirely shocking, they had a number of talents I enjoy and follow. Wish the best to them whether they use new or old IDs

[@scorpioncoreuniverse8981]

Ooo hell, yeah. You rock False ID.😊

[@TkBloch]

We're back

[@TheKenchanx]

Meanwhile, a herd of takodachi calmly pull lit torches out of the ether...

[@myfaceismyshield5963]

It's not chu-two-bae but rather chu-ni-bae. It's a japanese word play on chuuni.

[@davidwusoftdev]

Welcome back and thank you for the VTuber news! 😀

[@zenalias3131]

omg False! You're back!

[@Geoff69420]

In order for Vivi to have a graduation stream on Nov 8, two things must both be true: she needs to want to have a graduation stream, and EN management needs to allow her to have a graduation stream. The odds of both of these things being true is extremely high, but not 100%. Also I hope she turns off supas for her final stream, as one last "fuck you" to the company on her way out the door. 50% of zero is zero.

[@Earliersphere]

Man if she did that it would be hilarious and a big W for her, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's not allowed though she could Forget that part lol.

[@Notaforumguy007]

I didn't know amelia was going indie I don't really keep that much tabs on stuff but word I heard at the time was her looking to take a behind the scenes role in the EN branch still working for hololive. Also weird Ina couldn't even stream when back home without a visa since if shes not in japan not having a VISA shouldn't matter.

[@Ai_M3talloidX7]

Jeez. So many Vtuber companies closing down...

[@mitacestalia7532]

Eighteen graduation in a year for Niji! Only two more months to see who jumps from the ship!

[@Phantasmguy]

THE BOSS MAN IS BACK

[@harith0silver751]

Ahh its kind of sad that anyone that leave high probability wont collab with their ex agency friend that still in the company anymore other than the friend use her personal acc but its still rare

[@schwarzerregen9338]

I've only really stuck around Niji For Rosemi and if and when she leaves I hope Vshojo adopts her, She's a wonderful streamer and as much as I love her model and such she doesn't deserve to be involved with any of the drama or shit Niji has put her through

[@MotoroidARFC]

It's telling that she and Petra did not make a smear video regarding Selen like Zaion's wave members did regarding Zaion. The black stream used three others instead. That's why Rosemi and Petra are still good as of 2024-11-29.