How GOOD was Staraptor ACTUALLY? - History of Staraptor in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 4-7)

[@shaik100_]

Staraptor being BL every gen is like that one guy who’s too good to enjoy playing against friends but too bad to go pro

[@ifli8681]

An actual really good way to describe that good job

[@suchomimustenerensis]

Every BL mon in a nutshell.

[@ashesofaranea]

my friends literally refuse to play rts games with me, once they finally agreed to play with me another time but secretly tried to 1v3 me and i still won so they never were up for it again.

[@raythehomie123]

Staraptor is too salty that he just lashes out into UU

[@lionheart41269]

Sounds like me playing smash. All my friends quit cause I was always winning but when I go to locals I go 0-2. That's why I TO now

[@wesuckatgames9549]

Thundurus, Mega Gardevoir, Latios, Manaphy: *falls to UUBL* Staraptor: First time?

[@darkgerry92]

Funny since Thundurus was once seen as a better Zapdos, though now because of how the meta has shifted Zapdos proves more useful for its defensive offensive move pool and utility.

[@kazoorion7993]

It just shows how insane Power creep has become.

[@bn7ilceh3i]

Don't forget Mega Sableye as well!

[@user-os6gb9bq5v]

Staraptor would say why are you here? You do not belong here

[@JocaPeltPT-BR]

Manaphy: No *Goes to OU*

[@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv]

Virgin Talonflame: •81 attack which sucks •126 speed to fly away from its problems •Gale wings to compensate for its lame attack •Spams brave bird in an attempt to do damage(requires boosting items) •OU in its debute gen but crap in the next one •turkey punk •only useful because of an ability that got nerfed in the next gen Chad Staraptor: •120 attack with reckless so that it’s moves can actually do damage(no boosting items required) •100 speed because it’s not some show off •UU BL every gen because it’s awesome •can use close combat and recoil moves because its willing to sacrifice itself for its team •best early bird Pokémon •terrifying bird of brey

[@jonathancottrill9729]

🅱️urd of 🅱️ray

[@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv]

Jonathan Cottrill I meant to say bird of PREY

[@jonathancottrill9729]

@@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv I like it 🅱️etter the other way

[@esteban8471]

As a proud member of the Staraptor Squad, I approve this message.

[@Ob1tuber]

What about their origins

[@mortimierplays8029]

“Before being brutally beaten back by brave bird” I salute you for doing that without stuttering

[@doubleace11554]

Mortimier Plays 12:01 👏👏👏

[@alexandradordzhieva3835]

That isn't hard to say...

[@deandregreene2587]

That alliteration though.

[@jessejames8547]

@@deandregreene2587 Exactly lol

[@Akyure]

@@deandregreene2587 It took me two tries to say it all. Stupid alliteration made me say "braid birv"

[@Dz73zxxx]

Staraptor be like: "Competitive calc damage? Huh? Watch me." Proceeds OHKO 2HKO everything

[@justsomeweeb6078]

90% a tapu coco with brave bird lols and one shot the 2 mega charizard forms legit one of the best revenge killer

[@raythehomie123]

@@justsomeweeb6078 it would need a scarf so as not to get electrocuted by Koko

[@justsomeweeb6078]

@@raythehomie123 ya with scarf adamant and rekless

[@aalamvirsinghdhaliwal1701]

@@raythehomie123 Tbf Raptor almost always runs Scarf

[@IschmarVI]

enemy walls: I am unbreakable Staraptor: "observe" *proceeds to OHKO defensive milotic after rocks with a banded brave bird because it can*

[@Wizard_Lizard_]

UU: *Exists* Staraptor: Let me in! Let me IIIIIINNNNNN!!!

[@doubleace11554]

@person person They let it in Got banned again

[@furretthefuzzynoodle3896]

@@doubleace11554 lol

[@MisterSleep1123]

Staraptor, in UU: *Fiend Noises*

[@victorhaydes9065]

Ah yes my favorite pokemon, Statpater

[@cristhianmlr]

Statpator?

[@Sleeper800]

Hi I'm from the future where we're in gen 79 and Primal Groudon is PU and the only Uber is Mega Ultra Primal Delta Arceus Omega Form & Knuckles. Staraptor is still BL.

[@IschmarVI]

and skarmory is still OU. Because that stupid bird is literally immune to powercreep Edit: guess that comment didn't age well, lul

[@benjaminfaulkner1195]

¿Porque piensas que soy un fan de Cala María? celesteela doesn’t have stealth rock or spikes or defog

[@Besitzerstolz]

Ferrothorn is still OU

[@succhead6884]

¿Porque piensas que soy un fan de Cala María? Skarmory is a Set-Up Defoger, Celesteela is an offensive Pokemon that’s bulky.

[@sayvionwashington1939]

Staraptor: *Finally falls to UU* Staraptor: I have finally awakened after 10,000 years! Time to take over the UU Ladder!

[@Ryu_Himora]

"Before being brutally beaten back by brave bird" A+ alliteration there

[@grey3247]

B+

[@Attmoz-Phere]

C-

[@undercoverfbi3155]

Gen 8 update: In gen 8 Nat dex staraptor dropped to uu again. Staraptor was this close to staying in uu thanks to the additions of skarmory and celesteela who walled it completely and were metagame staples. Unfortunately magnezone dropped to uu and it immediately created a disgusting star-zone core that demolished every steel-type that gave raptor problems, thus getting its technical 4th UUBL placement as it was banned from UU national dex

[@albabimam1114]

Huh? Staraptor is currently UU in National Dex, and not even that amazing there, a pretty underwhelming B- rank

[@emmetstanevich2121]

@@albabimam1114 Well, that comment is from 2 years ago, maybe magnezone got banned in the meantime?

[@butteredsalmonella]

its RUBL. Celesteela, Skarmory and Aegislash makes life hard.

[@komododragon7619]

​@@emmetstanevich2121 it did lol

[@gengarzilla1685]

I can just imagine the people at GameFreak laughing to themselves when they gave Staraptor 10 points to Special Defense in Gen VI.

[@Gunsmoke2220]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@thebravegallade731]

staraptor belike: some spd plz? even just 1?

[@azurai3934]

Should have been 10 extra speed

[@mememe4188]

@@azurai3934 make it's defense and sp defense 100. Add more hp. Give it 20 plus speed. Now Staraptor would a god

[@nightmarefalls4204]

@person person ,lol I was thinking same buff up it’s defenses to 100 and increase it’s speed by 30 it would be top tier OU and an excellent mon in vgc,and they could change the normal type to fighting and give it the defiant ability as it really matches its personality,I know this will never happen it’s just a fantasy of mine that my favourite pokemon of all time would be better than it already is

[@Jimera0]

When I think of BL, I think of Staraptor. It's basically BL's mascot at this point.

[@christianholbrook2686]

Staraptor is my favorite generic bird ever. Best cry ever in gen 4.

[@vegetavsluigi]

Did you suddenly forget that Krickitune exists?

[@christianholbrook2686]

@@vegetavsluigi Gonna be honest, screw krickitune. Way overdone.

[@kazoorion7993]

Its a shame that GF screwed with cries during Gen6.

[@kazoorion7993]

@Jesus Renteria There were some that didn't really changed that much like Scrafty and Ursaring's but the rest are just... lackluster. Don't even mention the likes of Pelipper, Scraggy and Hydreigon's.

[@shatteredsentient5321]

@@Winterfang Glaceon Leafeon Lumineon SO FOOKING AMAZING BEST CRY Prinplup Staraptor are a few amazing ones

[@sirkibbles1944]

With poor Staraptor being struck with the BL curse all of its career, we can all agree a mini-maxed Mega Staraptor could bring home the gold in OU, maybe even in Ubers.

[@stygiandragon3865]

120 attack is no joke. And OU is doable, but I'm not sure about Ubers' fast peace metagame tho. Cause you know, Mega Salamence, Blaziken, etc. Edit: I hate myself, I didn't see the word "Mega". Maybe it will

[@sirkibbles1944]

@@stygiandragon3865 It happens to the best of us

[@stygiandragon3865]

@@sirkibbles1944 But I think people will just say Talonflame.

[@Matanumi]

People need to get it out of their heads that megas are coming back....

[@Hamanuna]

At least it's better than going down until PU or even worse (Untiered)

[@Eltipoquevisteayer]

Broke: Mewtwo, Uber every generation Woke: Staraptor, BL EVERY GENERATION

[@noahdomingo1162]

@person person cat time

[@angeldust23457]

Ubers are just OUBL

[@gustavorodriguez8702]

Well...

[@Eltipoquevisteayer]

@@gustavorodriguez8702 By this point they did him dirty, that is not cool

[@Boltizar49]

The Mega Rayquaza of UU. Give Staraptor 5-10 more base speed. Just enough where it can start outspeeding things instead of tying.

[@Straven93]

yeah too bad gamefreak gave it a 10 point sp.def boost instead in gen 6. It's a glass cannon thats either draining it's own health with recoil or dropping it's defenses.

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

Saint Raven Pidgeot got a +10 Speed boost instead.

[@butteredsalmonella]

Imagine Star getting Gale Wings

[@gengarzilla1685]

I've always maintained that Talonflame was a lackluster bird who coasted by on such an amazing ability. Gale Wings Staraptor is scarier because it actually does have a good Attack stat, while Talonflame is outdone by freaking Doduo in that regard.

[@XXXEmpoleon]

Or a 2 point boost to equal its Gen 4 bruv Garchomp

[@heraboss5533]

That reminds me of the time when a Staraptor OHKO'd my Mega Scizor with a Brave Bird. Good times...

[@Jakc_Tk]

Tf? Crit? choice band? What type of scizor you using?

[@ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest]

I remember when I critted and OHKOd phys Def Hippowdon. I love Staraptor.

[@starshade7394]

joshua jones Most likely a M-Scizor with no HP/Def investments. Adamant Reckless Choice Band Brave Bird is a straight up OHKO.

[@shaneknight1489]

If it was given a mega, it would probably be primal tier.

[@cosmictraveler1146]

Star Shade My Arceus, wtf is the base power on that 200?!

[@mr.krustykrust]

Using this guy on my Platinum replay. A really great flying type, and imo, the best regional bird

[@purpleheartneptune6267]

I would like you to introduce you to my friend kings rock skull link tocannon

[@jayanths1221]

Talonflame though..

[@Pokefan000000]

noa Kastle i haven’t dabbled much in gen 7 competitive battling so I wouldn’t know but I do think staraptor is the best regional bird in terms of design, move set and stats

[@mr.krustykrust]

Jay Talonflame got shafted in gen 7 though

[@blob2557]

@@purpleheartneptune6267 linking skulls together and then bashing them over and over so the opponents feel unimaginable pain, then after they've been broken providing a swift end with the help of a rock surpassing the sound barrier in speed.

[@EdmacZ]

Gen 7: Staraptor: What do you mean I’m still in BL! I can’t be that strong anymore! UU: Naw dude, you can stay there. Metagross: Hey I’m in RU now! Staraptor: Can someone PLEASE give me a break here?

[@sayvionwashington1939]

*Pelipper goes to OU due to unlocking it's inner Kyogre and Talonflame retires to RUBL due to a sprained wing* Staraptor: Wow...am I getting...old?

[@celestialudenburg3428]

EdmacZ WHAt how is metagroos in RU what happened

[@sayvionwashington1939]

@@celestialudenburg3428 Competes with Mega Aggron, Cobalion, Bisharp, and some other Steels in UU. Metagross is good, it just can't compete with the other Steels in the tier.

[@celestialudenburg3428]

Sayvion Washington thanks but man power creep can happen to even the strongest of Pokemon

[@vegetavsluigi]

Elijah Dacruz Except Staraptor, apparently.

[@vossboss220]

the biggest nerf to staraptor was it's gen 6 cry

[@terminate_all]

Bro, i thought i was the only one who loved the gen 4 and 5 cry..i salute

[@silasd7348]

Gen 6 ruined alot of cries.

[@vossboss220]

@@silasd7348 ain't that the truth

[@plantgang8738]

@@terminate_all I like gen five to

[@guildmasterri5995]

@@silasd7348 kyogre sounds so bad in gen 6

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

Gen 7 UU: Oh? You're approaching me? Even when we banned you since your debut Generation? Staraptor: I can't get out of BL without getting close. Gen 7 UU: Oh ho! Then come as close as you like. *Both menacingly approach each other* Brave Bird: ORA! Banhammer: *Pre-emptive ban* Gen 7 UU: Too slow, too slow! The Banhammer's speed and Power exceed your Reckless Brave Bird.

[@ronswanson7371]

Sorry I don’t speak weeb

[@raythehomie123]

beautiful

[@cristhianmlr]

@@ronswanson7371 so you speak uncultured Swinub?

[@ronswanson7371]

@@cristhianmlr uno reverse card

[@cristhianmlr]

@@ronswanson7371 uno reverse card again.

[@Sakis_Husband]

Ah yes, the original Smogon Birb before Talonflame came and took that title for a single gen.

[@batatino8805]

and then fell to UU xD

[@gengarzilla1685]

Talonflame didn't deserve the role. Good riddance to it.

[@alexdrake4081]

Hello -VerminTV- now we have a new Smogon birb; Corviknight, which doesn’t rely on its abilities and can support the team with stealth rock

[@blazikenfury8852]

@@alexdrake4081 Corviknight doesn't learn stealth rock

[@razwanasultana2842]

Think u meant defog

[@SgtCookie111]

Staraptor: *Exists* UU: What have you wrought upon this Arceus forsaken earth!?

[@ThatDorkTD]

Our beloved Raptor has fell into PU 😢

[@ShikanRaider]

Staraptor would've had a good shot at being OU in Gen 8, if it were in the game.

[@boldknock7436]

I dont think itd have a good ahot at being OU, it WOULDVE been OU. Game Freak did this pokemon dirty for both vgc and smogon

[@jalkiruokayes2517]

Well yes,Gen8OU is a very stally meta and Staraptor could be a good stallbreaker

[@turbulentbreak]

I don't know, Staraptor couldn't break through Corviknight, one of the most popular picks in OU. Aegislash gives the bird a hard time too.

[@nomis2268]

@@turbulentbreak but its speed is pretty decent at least and its wallbreaking potential is insane. For example it outspeeds hydreigon which is one of the most scary mons in ou and beats it with CC.

[@gengarzilla1685]

Magnezone will be returning for one of the expansions, which would have given any Staraptor struggling with Corviknight a perfect teammate to tag out to with U-turn. Personally, I think this metal bird owes so much to the dex cuts blocking a premier Magnet Pull user.

[@mikeasllani6972]

The newest game is gen 90, pokemon foot and hand. Lando T is now in RU, Primal Groudon is in LC, Rampardos has been banned from Ubers from being too powerful, and Flygon received a mega and is now in OU. Staraptor is still in BL

[@TheManiac-nw8ru]

Primal groudon lower than landot, Im now terrified on how much they buffed landot in gen 69

[@idosomethingiguess3680]

@@TheManiac-nw8ru but nothing is as insane as the gen 26 buff to Pex.

[@TheStormRX]

Pokemon Foot and Hand is just 💀

[@CaptainJLinebeck]

So far in BDSP OU, Staraptor having Reckless now has made it quite formidable

[@sriansumishra6028]

This time its not BL, but OU.

[@toadallynoodle5414]

BDSP OU Staraptor shreds so many things, the king is back at the helm.

[@belimvasim143]

Wait OU ? I tough power creep higer this time compared to OG DPP

[@toadallynoodle5414]

@@belimvasim143 lots of things changed for it. 1. Toxapex and Ferrothorn don't exist to check it anymore. 2. It doesn't have to worry about having its fast attacker role be taken by stuff like Greninja, Tapu Koko, Dragapult, Kartana, and Sand Rush Excadrill, and Megas like Charizard Y or Swampert under Swift Swim, as examples. 3. Reckless gives it an extra boost to its power, allowing it to hit damage thresholds it couldn't before with Double-Edge and Brave Bird when it only had Intimidate. 4. Buffs to Rapid Spin and Defog make hazard clearing easier than ever, allowing Raptor to get in safer, and momentum switch moves aside from U-Turn exist now so it has even easier times than before, particularly pairing well with Rotom. 5. A last side but about Rotom, in addition to pairing well with it, the changes to the Rotom appliances to no longer be Ghost gives Staraptor an additional Pokemon to check and hit hard, no Rotom wants to get hit by a 252 EV+ Attack boosting nature Brave Bird, let alone Double-Edge.

[@miracles4219]

@@toadallynoodle5414 staraptor sounds like a god

[@TempestMauve]

I'm a proud owner of a shiny Staraptor with a Jolly Nature.

[@Marcusjnmc]

^.^ me too

[@mohamadbazzi3876]

Gold bottle cap and you’re good to go...

[@Ob1tuber]

Good for you

[@pc31754]

i have two shiny starly’s, both of which have keen eye.

[@lucario7version2.08]

I'm a owner of a shiny Slowbro with a Modest nature along with a Max IV in SpA. Also capable of Mega Evolution.

[@VincentVincent_89]

I like how in the thumbnail Staraptor looks the same until the 3DS MODELS

[@mohamadbazzi3876]

We’re all the same in the eyes of low quality

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

3DS Staraptor T-poses in hopes of breaking into UU for good. Instead, it just broke it in two.

[@nolfan09]

Poor Staraptor. He's been in Smogon's version of Purgatory for like 10 years

[@deuntre4]

And he going to stay their too so we got the cell open for Pokemon sword and shield

[@nerdstop5025]

Staraptor is 16 years old. And it still hasn't gotten its chance yet.

[@muffinhead2164]

when generation 20 comes around and Dialga is being suspect tested in NU, Staraptor will still languish in UUBL

[@dillmo28]

pidgey should get the ability "adorable little fluffball" that does the same as intimidate only bc your opponent doesnt want to hurt a cute innocent bird

[@CylonDorado]

Pidgeot: Exists. Ash: "I'm sure gonna miss you, Pidgeot". Me as a kid: "What, why?"

[@abbifegan8736]

☻Ash: Sorry, I'm going to the next generation buddy. I can't wait until gen 4! I get my favorite bird! Pidgeot: Okay, I hate you! Leave! LEAve! LEAVE!

[@theguywhocomments5713]

You know the whole ash said he would came back for pidgot is a dub only line.ash never said he would came back for pidgot in the original japan version

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

In terms of tier lists of regional birds (not bird starters sorry Rowlet) Ash used, it goes in this order: 1. Staraptor 2. Talonflame 3. Swellow 4. Noctowl 5. Unfezant 6. Pidgeot

[@aceclover758]

Swellow was def his bulkiest flying type and shinnoh poke. That thing took electric attacks and more like breakfast.

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

@@aceclover758 *_Bruh Swellow is a Hoenn Pokemon_*

[@CenetaurmanE52]

Gen 9 Update : After a decade and a half of constant effort, Staraptor has finally been allowed into a main gen UU for the first time in its lifespan - and though it is not the world-beater it once was, it fits in very comfortably in the metagame as an excellent offensive threat that one needs to keep in mind for teambuilding, or else they will find themselves torn apart with only a little prediction. It took a long time, but Staraptor finally has a home.

[@imkingnoobuwu4326]

Plot twist its too powerful for UU soon after

[@alibekzholaman2923]

Unfortunately, due to how common tinted lense Lokix and Bullet Punch Scizor are, it dropped to RU, where it got insta-BL 😢

[@imkingnoobuwu4326]

@@alibekzholaman2923 still bl tho LOL

[@bluebaron6811]

Sad news, buddy. Staraptor didn't find a home. He just found an apartment, and he forgot to pay his rent.

[@slashine1071]

@@alibekzholaman2923 actually it's still usable in RU. not very good, even, due to how ridiculously high RU's power level is right now.

[@TheThundertwig]

Staraptor is one of my favourites ever. Never knew it had such a VGC presence, which makes me happy! Way to go, bravest bird.

[@somedonkus5215]

Everybody gangsta until the emo bird starts using close combat

[@user-os6gb9bq5v]

@African Negro Man and pecking

[@kyoyamurasaki9169]

The best regional bird, there I said it, looks cool and hits like a truck. My (and probably every single Sinnoh player) staple teammate in every run.

[@thewindysage1538]

You probably have to keep away from using it It's just so useful in sinnoh It can patch so many weaknesses in a casual team

[@Acacius1992]

Not realy i prefer Honchcrow and already have a normal type in my Team (Lopunny)

[@shacolin6546]

Crobat was my go to flying type on all gen 4 games

[@DaffyTaffy93]

Gen 4 remake is gonna be amazing!

[@Manivilization]

i prefer drifblim 😳

[@bdt2002gaming]

Other people: "How Good Was XXX actually?" Me: "Gen 2 Battling Explained"

[@luisagerenaldo8294]

You: Gen 2 Battling explained Me: RestTalk, Toxic, SkarmBliss, Raikou, Suicune and Zapdos

[@bdt2002gaming]

@@luisagerenaldo8294 Accurate representation

[@garrettthompson580]

bdt2002 Gaming Blissey wasn’t as good in gen 2. Maybe you could call it SkarmLax. And make sure to reference Curse and Misdrevous

[@gengarzilla1685]

The Incredible Bulk

[@bdt2002gaming]

@@garrettthompson580 Yeah now that I think about it, Blissey's usage rates have always much lower than Snorlax, so...

[@Marrrrley]

Another thing that could be mentioned.... Staraptor was a terror in AAA (Almost Any Ability) in Gen 6. Gale Wings Staraptor shows all that Talonflame could've been but wasn't, it was stupidly strong lmao.

[@histoire1688]

The Birb is back bois. Starly is in the Scarlet and Violet trailer

[@Igor-gw4io]

Wow 😍

[@grottosstuff]

Staraptor: *I'd sell your soul to Giratina to be in UU*

[@Magic_Ice]

Normal types have no effect on Ghost Types

[@nightmarefalls4204]

@@Magic_Ice ,can ur dumbass not take a joke?

[@trqsh_can]

@@nightmarefalls4204 ...I don't think that was a fail to take the joke.

[@georgecortes3416]

For 62 Pokedollars?

[@pochita4996]

@@nightmarefalls4204 can ur dumbass not take a joke

[@j.corbygaming]

Glad that Staraptor is now actually OU in BDSP

[@AceDragonXX]

The Best Staraptor moveset: Reckless (Choice Band/Choice Scarf) Jolly (252 Atk, 4 Def, 252 Spe) Brave Bird, Double-Edge, Close Combat, U-turn

[@HaiderAli-nm6ce]

i disagree choice scarf has a nishe in ou and can catch most leads of guards

[@shadowtitanx3962]

@@HaiderAli-nm6ce Especially Final Gambit tactics.

[@spoodiejums229]

AXHP i used that but with scarf in ubers it ohkos xernexas cant spell sorry

[@user-os6gb9bq5v]

My staraptor in platinum has brave bird close combat u turn and steel wing EVERYTHING DIES

[@Unknown-gf1ci]

@@user-os6gb9bq5v mine in game had Brave bird U-turn Close combat Return Damn return actually hits pretty damn hard if a staraptor has it

[@butteredsalmonella]

In recent news: June tier shifts has Staraptor fall to RU. Staraptor just recently got banned from RU. Welcome to BL hell, we missed you. How this guy is now officially in a higher tier than Blissey and Weavile is insane.

[@BeeEmpress]

Gay gay homosexual gay

[@butteredsalmonella]

@@BeeEmpress is this supposed to be a homophobic insult??? Hahahahahahahaha you're silly

[@TheMajesticMrL]

other people: Talonflame is the best bird Pokemon me: those are bold words for someone in OHKO range FREE THE BIRD

[@SomeRandomGuy-us1yb]

Nice kill percent m8 Wait, wong game

[@NN-cc8uo]

Talonflame has fallen since gale wings' hard nerf m8

[@esteban8471]

*gen 4 Staraptor cry intensifies*

[@rollingapples6579]

Galaspark A Trapinch has more attack than Talonflame.

[@Ob1tuber]

Rock types: ‘whisper’ It’s free real estate

[@ralph8589]

UU: exists Staraptor: Little Pig! Little Pig! Let me in!

[@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv]

Chiquinho Gavião UU: Not by the hairs of our chinny chin chins!

[@Ob1tuber]

UU: exists The pootis birb (which is staraptor): Let me pootis myself in to UU

[@Magic_Ice]

@Owen Baker Yep

[@raver-kun2035]

UU is really scared of Staraptor, But i am glad that staraptor is this good.

[@thebravegallade731]

UU is terribly weak to flying/fighting. In fact a lot of things are.... The only reason talonflame wasn't OP is because fire/flying is easier to manage. If they gave Gale winds to staraptor in gen 6 it would have been in Ubers after the ONE THING that can tank it went (Aegislash)

[@pepeknight]

How to describe Staraptor: Good, BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH. FEELSBADMAN. Though Staraptor looks like an Angry Bird.

[@OpsJonathon]

That's real mobile of you too say

[@stygiandragon3865]

Tbh, Being in BL all the time isn't all that bad. At least Staraptor has niche(I'm pretty sure I spell that wrong) in OU

[@CasaiAgicap]

same irl

[@t-greenrock404]

Not AN angry bird. THE angry bird.

[@PsyrikAntz967831]

They should add a move called “Hawk Dance” where it’s a physical type Quiver Dance, boosting your: Attack, Defense, and Speed. Staraptor would be a _POWERFUL_ candidate tbh

[@eclipse9727]

I think calling it Hawk Dance might be putting a bit too much bias on something that can be beneficial to not only staraptor, but it's still a good idea. Though, I can also imagine an ability that's like Gorilla Tactics, but it's a Choice Scarf. That would be cool.

[@PsyrikAntz967831]

I see what you mean by putting too much emphasis; however, we do have to take into consideration that Quiver Dance translates to “Butterfly Dance”- since there are Pokémon who aren’t based off butterflies that can learn the move. “Hawk Dance” can open viability doors for other bird Pokémon as well too- mostly the regional birds- allowing the lower tiered birds such as Unfezant, Dodrio, Toucannon, etc. to get more shine. Bird Pokémon have a reputation for not being the most viable anyways. An ability that’s like a choice scarf would be good too.

[@eclipse9727]

Lamier Anthony Okay, I can see your point. Though, the translated name doesn't exactly convey the English name, so it can be more generalized to allow more than just the birds to learn it. For example, calling it Whirl Dance or Flutter Dance could make it work on the Birds, but other fliers too through the name alone.

[@chaosbreaker657]

Warhawk Screech The user lets out a loud cry that boosts its fighting spirit, raising Attack, Defense and Speed.

[@PsyrikAntz967831]

Mel Palaganas okay that’s good! I like how it doesn’t always have to be a dance as well

[@Kiriki-f4n]

BL Staraptor: *Why are we here?* *Just to suffer?* Rest of ou: Go back to Bl you stinky birb! Rest of uu: Go back to Bl you stinky birb *Staraptor takes damage due to emotional recoil* *staraptor faints*

[@Kiriki-f4n]

Fixed it a bit, hope you enjoy my joke : )

[@Straven93]

F :'(

[@luisagerenaldo8294]

It needs to cover up it's emotional scars with some choice bandages

[@Omega7321]

*Emotional Crit*

[@Kiriki-f4n]

@@Omega7321 if you think about it, staraptor looks like a early 2000's emo teen in bird form

[@kirbydude2523]

"Before being brutally beaten back by Brave Bird" That's 8 "B" words in a row!

[@clude2008]

Nice

[@Blackvoid2me]

The best bird starting Pokemon after talonflame ability was nerfed.

[@lukeskylicker]

Best bird starting Pokemon* As the gen 7 rework of gale wings made clear, gale wings is an amazing ability strapped to what would otherwise be an ok Pokemon. I shudder at the thought of what staraptor could accomplish with it.

[@victorsandeen2694]

Dear God no.

[@kristianschuff1723]

Immediately goes to ou at the very least

[@halfway7690]

I imagine something like this. *Talonflame doing whatever* Gamefreak:Yeah, I think Gale Wing should be nerfed. Talonflame:Ou! What the hell?!? Why are you using a bug type move against me?!! *Switches to say umm anything that can outspeed Talonflame?" Talonflame: Interesting, *tries to use brave bird and falls out of the sky due to a spianed wing*

[@gengarzilla1685]

Talonflame needed Gale Wings and plummeted after the nerf, while Staraptor kicked tail no matter its ability. Personally I thought Staraptor was always better.

[@PkmnLegendMaster]

Man, I love Staraptor. It's just such an amazing nuke mon. I used to use it a fair bit in gens 5/6 but haven't given it much love lately. I can't tell you how many times it'd tear half the opponent's team apart from the get go since so few trainers were properly prepared for that monster. And yes, I think that's the best summary for Raptor, monster.

[@charliesmith1358]

Just increasing its speed to 110 would make my boi amazing might even let it use supersonic skystrike too

[@gengarzilla1685]

Here's the funny part: Staraptor got 10 extra points to a stat in Gen VI... but it was Special Defense.

[@metest465]

Canine Kitten Okay, random topic but if somehow a Pokémon fan got zapped to the say 19th century. Would they give Raptor the 10 extra points?

[@doubleace11554]

Charlie Smith Banded Brave Bird > Supersonic Skystrike though

[@oodogla]

@@metest465 the Pokemon fan would die before staraptor was created.

[@ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest]

Ah, I love how my good old childhood bird is denying the existence of type resistances.

[@tmr3volver]

Staraptor has been one of my favorites since DPP. I've always had a softspot for early route pokemon and it was a joy to have one that was actually powerful all the way in the late game.

[@Wannabechefguy]

When I think of Staraptor, I think of how BL is so cluttered. Poor birb.

[@grunkleg.3110]

I wish they'd just make the BLs separate tiers

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

We really do need a new tier for BL

[@mohamadbazzi3876]

Jake Everett Terpening latios was always ubers before soul dew nerf/ban

[@thebravegallade731]

BL needs a new tier at this point just because of how many Pokemon are in it. It used to be that it was a UI banlist with only 3-5 mons but now there is almost as many UUBL mons as OU mons...

[@gengarzilla1685]

The gap between UU and OU in particular was just getting too large in Gen VII.

[@1ND1G066]

The real message of staraptor being uubl for so long is that the flying type has actually been sneakingly op ever since the beginning (especially physical ones). I mean looking at the current gen uubl list, we see things like salamence, dragonite, and gyarados. What do all of these mons have in common? The ability to abuse z bounce/fly after setting up a dragon dance or two and then nuking something with a high powered stab move with few resists, which can be easily accounted for with something like eq. The fact that flying coverage pairs so well with steel-killing coverage (eq z fly ddancers, staraptor`s cc, tornadus` focus blast/superpower) really speaks volumes as to how much potential the flying type has (as mega ray showed us a couple videos ago xD) Hell in gen 5 I believe tornadus incarnate apparently kept bouncing between uu and ou all because of that flying typing. Staraptor having essentially one of the best coverage moves to pair with it`s flying stab is what really makes it so strong, on top of it`s good attack and speed of course. Anyhow here`s to hoping the next gen can make the regional bird somewhat strong as well!

[@largenaq2935]

Serxhio Gega but stealth rock :(

[@behindthesmile1276]

@@largenaq2935 If you think about it that's how flying types are balanced out, the existence of stealth rock

[@rjante2236]

@@largenaq2935 Yeah, and how many good Flying types are there in OU? Without Stealth Rocks, they'd have free reign.

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

OU: *exists* Staraptor, Mega Heracross, and Manaphy: Its been 4 years. We're tired of having other UU Pokemon join you guys for some battles in OU despite not being borderline. Hydreigon "A.K.A The Best Pokemon": Excuse me I got a match to join. Luckily I packed Flash Cannon to surprise Fairies. Garchomp: HURRY UP ALREADY! Hydreigon: Okay fine!

[@Mimi-qe7qz]

I swear smogon admins is memeing at this point.... poor staraptor, at least youre super powerful

[@gengarzilla1685]

Staraptor even got banned from the unofficial National Dex UU metagame. I'm dead serious.

[@Mimi-qe7qz]

@@gengarzilla1685 that's just perfect

[@waveringvermin2102]

I’ll be honest, for the longest time I thought Staraptor was flying fighting, got me killed a couple times in playthroughs that I wasn’t expecting

[@SodaCat16]

"do you think the early route birds need to be stronger" >everyone looks at talonflame no

[@gengarzilla1685]

Talonflame? You mean Gale Wings, right? It was all about the ability rather than the Pokémon.

[@Rarest26]

And now Corv is amazing

[@yizao9289]

Rarest just force it to roost and close combat it to death

[@Rarest26]

@@yizao9289 That's so much easier said than done. By that logic, gen 6 Talonflame sucked because of rocks.

[@yizao9289]

Rarest but but defog and rapid spin

[@danteghazizadeh1656]

The year is 2100. Its generation 30 and Mega Rayquaza just dropped to untiered after its niche in PU was taken by Ultra-Primal-Alpha-Delta-Super-Mega Charizard. Staraptor is still in UUBL

[@AhmedKhan3.14]

And Shuckle has evolution due to which it created its own tier and now we got eviolite shuckle.

[@AnshulGuptaAG]

"🅱️efore 🅱️eing 🅱️rutally 🅱️eaten 🅱️ack 🅱️y 🅱️rave-🅱️ird" Staraptor's tier: 🅱️L

[@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv]

Anshul Gupta 🅱️ruh moment, Staraptor is still not allowed in UU.

[@lorddarkrai5753]

A New Pokemon Movie: B For Borderline

[@OrangeyChocolate]

Staraptor is one of my favourite Pokemon ever, and it's one of the reasons I love Gen 4 so much. Muscle bird NEEDS a mega evolution!

[@vernify]

Aside from Pidgeot and nostalgia, this guy is perhaps my favorite bird out of all the generations. He was always a solid and reliable choice to run with and had a great design. He is indeed the best bird.

[@gamer-qc5bt]

Imagine telling someone that this UUBL lifer would drop to NU for the first time in the same gen it dropped to RU for the first time. With Chandelure alongside it, no less, and possibly just being really good and not broken in the tier (Well yet anyway). Gen 9 powercreep is something alright.

[@slashine1071]

and now to pu for the first time

[@janehrahan5116]

Mega staraptor: +40 attack +30 speed +20 def +10 special def , fighting flying, ability: contrary (so close combat increases defenses when used) Staraptor switches in on physical attack during ground move, then megas before they can attack, attacks first with close combat, and now has +1 def against -1 attack if it lives through the close combat.

[@juliner4036]

I like Staraptor's playstyle and I'm happy it was so good. Good thing Borderline isn't a tier or else it would probably be in Borderline-Borderline.

[@stygiandragon3865]

Anything Goes...

[@pacoramon9468]

The OG close combat bird.

[@sreenaths6829]

Now everyone and their dog gets Close Combat lol

[@Rarest26]

@@sreenaths6829 And Hawlucha gets STAB from both! Poor raptor

[@nightmarefalls4204]

@@Rarest26 ,hawlucha has 92 attack,starapror has 125 attack

[@Rarest26]

@@nightmarefalls4204 But again, STAB. Not to mention that adamant lucha is faster than jolly raptor. And now there's also Zapdos with the same speed as raptor, more attack and both STABs as well.

[@nightmarefalls4204]

@@Rarest26 ,zapdos almost always runs a phys def set , banded raptor with reckless raptor 1 shots zapdos , hawlucha's attack is trash without swords dance

[@foreversevenfold1666]

One of my favorite mons to take into BSS! Reckless with Brave Bird, Double Edge, Close Combat, and U Turn. Double Edge mostly for electric types like rotom. Really fun to use!

[@EdmacZ]

Staraptor went out to eat one day, but was a little UNDECIDED on the matter. It teetered on the border line of having either steak or ham for dinner.

[@genuineangusbeef8697]

I love how the thumbnail is two of the same staraptor sprites

[@Binks129]

Man Staraptor was always so badass to me as a kid. Hands down favorite bird pokemon.

[@boxy2k8]

My favourite Mon of all time

[@edwardramos4591]

There are three certainties in life: Death, taxes, and Staraptor's nest in BL.

[@davidgusquiloor2665]

I love Staraptor, easily my favourite first bird.

[@whiteboyangel4838]

The standing pose looks so much cooler than the flying one

[@UndernetChara]

Staraptor was the first Flying type I ever had, so this video brings a lot of memories.

[@Jhakri_]

I love Staraptor, the bird who knew a fighting move was super cool to me as a kid.

[@AmericanBrit9834]

My favorite pokemon of all time. My ace and pretty much starter (I was 8 and didn't know what release meant) in Pearl. My first level 100 and the Pokemon I always used to fight my little brother's ace (A level 100 WC Gastrodon). The pokemon who helped me beat Cynthia in Pearl, Cynthia in Platinum, and was traded to Heartgold just to fight and beat Red. My best friend.

[@Tom_bradys_unretirement]

NICE AND POWERFUL STARAPTOR

[@spongebobsquarepants6935]

Very consistent in terms of tier placing, nice to see that

[@wilianrodrigues5280]

UU becomes the Old OU Staraptor: Borderline always, take it or leave it

[@cebutours8845]

This channel deserves more than 1m subs seriously this dude has helped me in choosing pokemons throughout playing my old pokemon games and hack games

[@LordRumshi]

Staraptor could’ve been made a fighting/flying type to break to recurring trend of nearly every early journey regional bird being a normal/flying type, plus how the Pokédex entries state how Staraptor can be quite the aggressive Pokémon who never backs down from a fight.

[@armorbearer9702]

The most awesome thing about Staraptor is that it still uses the same technique that he used back in his debut generation. Most Pokemon have to adapt to compete in the meta game.

[@luisurdiales3091]

If beating them up doesn't work, it just means you have to beat them up even harder. That trick never fails.

[@Igor-gw4io]

Now its in PU 😢

[@hocaogulefi8067]

Ah yes, Staraptor, BL's infamous mascot

[@Mark-fc7tu]

I always end up training a Staraptor whenever I play Diamond and Platinum. Normal/Flying with Intimidate and Close Combat is a powerful combo.

[@kameron1290]

There’s no better experience than seeing an AI trainer sending in rock, steel or ice Pokemon only to be crushed by Staraptor’s Close Combat.

[@-bemyvalentine-]

Oh, god, yes! My favorite Pokemon, finally covered by FSG. Thank you

[@Cgreen123]

God I freakin love Staraptor. So fast, strong and it looks badass.

[@seanworden3064]

This is probably my most favorite flying type of all time.

[@typhlosion7872]

Crazy to think that now Staraptor and Slurpuff are in the same tier in ORAS. Both too strong for ORAS UU

[@goldenyoshistar1]

As much as I don't care about competitive pokemon, the simple fact that my favorite Pokemon of all time, Staraptor, has so much love and is fairly high in the system, along with the fact that it has reached high placements in many major tournaments, I am glad. Even defeating those dreaded Ultra-beasts I personally despise makes me smile. I am even replaying Pokemon Platinum and attempting a pure solo run with him, and even with the remakes for me to create a new team, I've given myself an exception to keep Staraptor on my team. Same goes with my starter, but that is because I always go Piplup in those games.

[@thomas2871]

i don't even play pokemon but somehow i ended up on this channel and have been watching for two hours. good content mate.

[@5had0w13HD]

Staraptor is fianlly here! My dream came true x).

[@spacepirate3386]

False Swipe Gaming: And for once, I’m glad Game Freak actually makes the early-route birds useful, although Gen 6’s bird might have been overdoing it. Corviknight: Allow me to introduce myself.

[@nbassasin8092]

I mean corvi is not really overdoing it, all and all I think Corvi is fine, annoying but definitely not Pex level annoying

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

This video is why I love this star bird so much❤

[@butteredsalmonella]

Aegislash, Celesteela and Skarmory is now in UU. Had Staraptor return to the dex. It certainly would no longer be UUBL. The end of an era is near.

[@Joey15811]

It needs a mega or a stat buff in gen 8 After Shinx, Staraptor is my next favour Pokemon