Fan Zhendong vs Wang Chuqin | MS Final | 2023 ITTF World Table Tennis Championships Finals

[@goptty]

Its been 20 years now , schlager still remains the last non chinese wttc champion

[@cookiebot3369]

He was lucky

[@bestdy8778]

cus Chinese players absolutely dominated TT in the past 20 years.

[@mehmetmertsarp359]

​@@cookiebot3369he wasn't, he beat best two chinese in his way

[@mutusorin]

So, I see that they want as to get used with this camera angle and NO replays! I'm liking this new ITTF less day by day.

[@hypertrophy4253]

This camera angle sucks

[@suryanshgarg1150]

Pathetic camera angle indeed

[@ilfalcodelkhan]

08:08 how can you edit in this way??? From 9-5 then directly to 10-9?? absolutely unacceptable in a final!!!

[@jhts7512]

Yeah

[@vokuheila]

Probably all those points in between are short unforced errors

[@Insanee_xd]

cause its highlight they only show the important points dummy

[@slimc3769]

Never watched professional TT in my life until now. This was incredible. Got me hyped at some of the exchanges!

[@abu3abed]

4:56 FIRE

[@leowang-fd8md]

Congratulations to Fan Zhendong for defending his title!

[@abstractexchange5057]

. few spectators. Liu Guolang, the chinese table tennis legend as player and coach, once said that he concerns about the popularity of table tennis more than the result of matches. Heavyweight balls are luring stupid stuff in table tennis. They make table tennis become bored with very few touches in every balls series, and with more offgame time, less long rallies, less visual athletic skills shows. The less touches in every ball series, the less ongame time, the more offgame time, and players lose more their time for offgame time to go to pick up balls. HEAVYWEIGHT BALLS MAKE TABLE TENNIS MANUFACTURER AND PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS TO BE POORER AND POORER, because heavyweight balls make table tennis extremely difficult to play amateur social games for new beginners. Thus majority of new beginners leave away from table tennis, and there be very few new beginners still keep playing table tennis (extremely difficult to play game for beginners). It requires few weeks of training for new beginners to reach minimal amateur levels to play amateur social games in other sport, for example in badminton, billards, .. . BUT IT REQUIRES FEW YEARS OF TRAINING FOR NEW BEGINNERS TO REACH MINIMAL AMATEUR LEVEL TO PLAY AMATEUR SOCIAL TABLE TENNIS GAMES. It is very stupid big time training requirement for beginners in table tennis, thus majority of new beinners just leave table tennis. I personally see much many real life cases today : private commercial table tennis club halls are revamped to become badminton club halls, because table tennis is extreme difficult to attract enough number of new beginners to get profit for running commercial table tennis clubs as commercial social sport services. If the commercial private table tennis halls have high ceils, then their owners often cancel table tennis club services to convert halls into commercial badminton club or other sport services halls to get profit, because there are very few new amateur table tennis players. The reason of stiff difficulty of table tennis for new beginners : heavyweight balls make table tennis to be extremely difficult for new beginners : they fly extremely lightening fast in air, and they are difficult to control for beginners. Lightweight balls make table tennis become extreme easier for new beginners : they fly slower in air, they are easier to control for beginners. With lightweight balls, every ball series will have more touches in average. Thus table tennis matches will have more ongame time and less offgame times, thus players have more ongame time. It is valuable ! Because amateur players pay their time to play table tennis matches for health and social fun/communication, thus the more offgame time, the less waste time for players ! Everyone can try lightweight balls, for example 2gr balls, to feel how extremely more easily to play table tennis for new beginners. The next balls of table tennis must be lightweight balls, for example, 2-2.5gr balls instead of the current 2.7gr balls. The result of lightweight balls will be staggering : there will be more billion new beginners come and keep playing table tennis with new lightweight balls of 2gr, because lightweight balls do not require stupid enormous few years of training to reach minimal amateur level to play amateur social table tennis game, but require only few weeks of training enough to play amateur social table tennis games. Of course, it leads to increadible big scale business of table tennis equipment manufacturers, it leads to increadible big number of table tennis audience of professional tournaments . Because new billion beginners will play and keep playing the easier version of table tennis with lightweight balls 2-2.5gram, but not the current stupid extreme difficult version of table tennis with heavyweight balls 2.7gram, thus they known playing table tennis as amateur players and once they known playing then they will have interest to watch table tennis tournaments. They will be billion one, once lightweight balls 2-2.5gram are applied in table tennis.

[@samuelnicholson7905]

Fan Zhendong vs Wang Chuqin will be a wonderful rivalry for years to come. And I am so there for it!. I hope Wang can adapt to Fans game. Just like he is Ma Longs cryptonite, Fan is his at the moment.

[@crystalfire6677]

Well...I'm liking the angle, plus more space sponsors

[@junwuzhang375]

Great commentary by @AdamBobrow!!

[@xCynicBliss]

i’ve never heard someone say, “wow this camera angle is great!”. change it!!!!!!

[@smilefemto]

Fan Zhengdong is a machine 👍

[@AlfonsoGarcia-ek7tr]

Prime example of “it’s not how you start, but how you finish!”

[@bryanwells4063]

um... I think this is the opposite. Fan started each game extremely well, and Wang was the one who was able to hold it together and come back, winning more of the "finishing" points. But because Fan was able to get the early lead overall, he was able to get a dominant victory in the final game by not breaking down at match point lik ehe did in the fifth game.

[@travelator3035]

Congratulations Fan Zhendong for defending the World Championship title joining the likes of Wang Liqin, Zhang Jike, and Ma Long! Now go out and win the 2024 Paris Olympics Gold Medal and get your Grand Slam before Wang Chuqin and the others catch up and beat you. WCQ has the most potential to beat you esp with that comeback in Game 5 against 5 championship points.

[@francisasiedu6969]

Fan Zhendong doesn’t look like he’s slowing down anytime now

[@olfiru2336]

It's crazy that Fan Zhendong's first unenforced error was at the 35th point of the match, while Wang Chuqin had already made 4.

[@renanmacedo5497]

’ve never heard someone say, “wow this camera angle is great!”. change it!!!!!!

[@cagsanozbek4210]

Many of the FZD's shots are un-recievable fast and believe me in real its even faster.

[@devikadevi9704]

Wcq is again faster, well some shots of fzd are fast too

[@bryanwells4063]

I think Wangs shots were even more unreturnable! except Fan is able to return them all 🤣🤣🤣 Wang hits some of his forehands and it looks like bullets flying out of a gun!

[@sebomar-nagy7329]

What a match!

[@bryanwells4063]

HOW did they manage to skip FIVE POINTS in the fifth game? it was 5-9, fan gains match point, and then we skip to 9-10 going into deuce!?!

[@VetteWay2Fast]

Man this camera angle is not good. Can’t see the spin and ball movement with spin.

[@sukransahin3719]

4:56 Wow

[@em-empilongo847]

Prime Ma long and Prime ZJK is still fire 🔥🔥

[@RalphHund]

Table tennis was so much more fun to watch back in the day. Now it's all about who is the best robot.

[@Artemis-v8i]

What do you want?

[@squidjames7735]

... go back to sleep, and dream big TT!

[@bryanwells4063]

@@Artemis-v8i he wants to see the game in its early days when everyone was still experimenting with playstyles and figuring out what worked best. The game is now more advanced and the most consistant playstyle is now clear, so everyone is working to perfect the playstyle which creates "robots" who seem to just play the exact same way to the untrained eye.

[@bryanwells4063]

I wont argue with that point, but you have to understand that the game is simply more advanced now. At a certain point in a sports advancement, certain biomechanics simply have to be followed to create the best shot, you can see this is almost every single sport. Basketball freethrows, golf swings,any racing sport like swimming, running, and biking, slalom skiing, and obviously tennis. there is just no getting around the eventual "robotic" nature of perfecting and mastering a sport at the highest level, especially as that level increases. Yes, it is more fun to watch less knowledgable players duke it out with slower, more fancy looking shots, and tons of different playstyles, but for me it is more enjoyable to see the game advance and perfect itself until machines like Fan Zhendong are born who seem to have the game literally perfected. But I will say, I don't really know how much more the game can advance now at this point, and this might simply become a matter of "who is younger, faster, stronger" rather than who is actually more skilled.

[@Mateus.007]

IN the time of the celluloid ball it was better.

[@royalop7455]

Time 4:55 to 5:13 is insane 😮🎉

[@enesb4797]

what does Fan says when he scores?

[@renatorossit4314]

Old camera angle was better

[@ganeshrajadhikari9417]

congress Fan zhendong👏♥️🎊🎉

[@bryanwells4063]

I think this is the WORST camera angle I have ever seen...

[@ankitsingla1877]

Such bad camera angle How is this even allowed

[@Mati03x]

This camera its HORRIBLE !!!!

[@Artemis-v8i]

What’s wrong with it?

[@tsc7589]

The GOAT

[@lagear3451]

Fan 👍

[@untoldtruth1796]

ITTF, what is wrong with you guys? Everybody is telling you to change the Camera angle. You are Not showing any repitions, you do Not show every point in a final. What is this ? Switching from 9-5 to 10-9? I have no words? The old camera angle was way better, from the new angle you cant really see the power, spin and Variation the players are putting in. Please! Do something! You are destroying our sport! This is unacceptable!

[@imrantamrin]

When the score is 3-1, why Fan still not win the tie? Bit confuse here. 😅

[@Phoenix51291]

I think you can't win a round unless you're two points over your opponent

[@simonf142]

Fan zhendong goat

[@samuelnicholson7905]

No. Not yet anyways. He still has to win another 15 major titles to catch Ma Long

[@bestdy8778]

maybe in the future, but not now

[@factsgetintoyourears6223]

Commentary by adam

[@ElegantoHesboy]

This is the worst angle I have ever seen. Amazing match though

[@alexb2104]

Gg to both

[@imperiumofvanity]

Woouuu😮😮😮😮

[@ganeshrajadhikari9417]

Wow♥️👏🎊🎉

[@ronrivero1039]

what a joke, they could play better if they just hit the balls normally without the twists and fakes that makes them lose or miss.

[@Education1992]

terrible, boring camera angle,

[@dhruvdharmesh8487]

Worst angel

[@thefunny5706]

I am first

[@allanbrowniii1409]

I have a lot of respect for FZD, It's really hard to respect Wang Chuqin with all his yelling. Yes, mind games are very important in TT. However, that amount of yelling from Wang Chuqin is just disrespectful imo.

[@bryanwells4063]

You do what you gotta do to win. Screamoto says it calms and and helps him focus, and there are no rules against it since it allows him to play the best he possibly can. You can't fault them, and if you really don;t want to hear a players earnest celebration you can simply mute the video.

[@kakiachumi396]

Dis 2 players don't deserve to be World Champion.. 😡😡

[@ahmedbinzahid6800]

why???

[@SillySausage263]

What was Fan yelling whenever he won? Does anyone speak Chinese?

[@glanssed8144]

"Cho Le!" translates to "good ball, again!"