Fancy Elite Colleges LOSE APPEAL; Students Go For ALTERNATIVE Options

Jessica Burbank and Amber Duke weigh in on a report that students are opting out of applying to elite-level colleges. #university #eliteschool Originally aired April 26, 2024.
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[@wilm3864]

I work at a tech college. Students here study fields that get real jobs that are in demand. We also have no protests.

[@bigbao9843]

Hi, may I ask what is a tech college? Is it polytechnic colleges? Such as I live in California, there’s a school called CalPoly SLO

[@wilm3864]

They teach such topics as welding, network admin, cybersecurity, nursing, veterinary assistant, horticulture, automotive.

[@gerardkiff2026]

My nephew flunkes out his first semester of a state college. Now he’s making 60k as a commercial electrician. Bring VOTEC back high school.

[@jamesmurphy9426]

It's called not affordable

[@CitizenofDystopia]

In today's economy, the best college is a free or close to free college. The more money you spend, the more of a waste of money it is

[@davedsilva]

Correct. It's called KZbin and chatGPT.

[@MatChocoDog]

Like credit unions, we need institutions of higher learning owned and operated by faculty and students. Get corporate power out of our schools.

[@zmani4379]

This is a fascinating and important line of thinking that should be pursued further

[@user-hk6tk4ge5t]

Jessica is proof of how worthless an Ivy League education can be.

[@daz97]

All you need to get into Ivy league is dark skin Or white and a wealthy family The place has nothing to do with intelligence

[@michellenorris8471]

Spotted the Zio-bot!!

[@Rook.Kaiser]

no wonder the US government send money to Israel and Ukraine and not to its own students and to its veterans and its homelless.

[@brianbattaglia2187]

as is Briana

[@shawnpurcell5424]

@@brianbattaglia2187 Can't say I agree

[@kellygoodman6167]

I wished I never spent money on college the biggest regret I ever had was taking colleges seriously, I’m lucky I never ended up in student debt.

[@toddc3135]

Just on the surface, who wants to throw out 75% of the fun of high school and then maybe get into an Ivy League. If you go and you graduate, then the expectations are high and so are the likely hours. Who wants that?

[@ja6975]

To go to college for the “sports team” and the “Greek life” is why a lot of people think that college doesn’t pay off 😂

[@gsisemore]

Paying 200k for Greek life is pretty frat though you gotta admit.

[@ctjmaughs]

College never guaranteed the 6 figure salary

[@garyclark979]

Only a 5% decrease? That is not worth mentioning.

[@robbiecooke272]

That’s a lot

[@tomuch4u969]

The show runners have an agenda

[@TheShadowKarl]

As a parent of kids approaching college age who are all very smart I will be actively encouraging them to stay far away from these pretentious universities that farther the goals of our powerful oligarchy. The smartest kids need to go to stste Universities and other schools with great programs and no money investments from the oligarchs. F these schools.

[@economicdevelopmentplannin8715]

Only government is hiring. Better move to Prince George's county and double up on jobs. Buy a quarter acre with 3 showers renovated for under 600k. More high income job openings are accessible vs the cost of housing in PG county than anywhere else globally.

[@kathyp1563]

Any engineers in your brood? University of Cincinnati has a mandatory co-op program. They work 5 semesters in their field alternating between classes & work. My son is an aerospace engineer major. His first coop was the Fall of his 2nd year. That Christmas he told me he will cover his rent, utilities, & food with his earnings. My savings will cover the classes & we pay for insurances. He should graduate debt free but also with the ability to budget

[@Incredible520]

Bri and Jessica - the prima facia example of a current Ivy League education.

[@lpb4979]

Agree re Cornell and their practical programs! And they have navigated the student protests really well too vs the other ivys.

[@thewatchfuleye8401]

Imagine me as a Christian American, immigrating to ANY predominantly Muslim country and telling them how to run their political ideology asking you to PAY for my education and to support my crazy ideas from America??. Moreover, me then protesting about not getting my way and creating a civil disobedience in the process? What do you think would happen to me? Honest question?

[@hdlc4635]

All the countries that were colonized are imagining why people who call themselves Christians did exactly what you describe in Asia, Africa and the Americas.

[@aujax1]

this is not primarily muslims protesting the war in gaza. its largely white liberals and many liberal jews. and theyre pointing out the massive influence of groups like aipac, dictating american foreign policy by donating around $80 million to american politicians every year while essentially representing a foreign nation. thats not in americas interest.

[@lindaostrom570]

public flogging at the very least.

[@RayHowle-jb1bi]

That should be worried about their schooling then protesting

[@StephenGoodfellow]

Pulled our son out of the educational system in 4th grade because the speed of his learning capacity was being hindered. Homeschooling consisted of his own curiosity to build skillsets via the internet. This continues now then conventionally he should be in a higher level educational institution. Consequently, his knowledge base is better developed than his contemporaries. And let's face it; for the majority of jobs these days, the boss doesn't care about your institutional degrees. They are going to swivel the computer around and say "show me." Furthermore, the comradery that institutions offor among students pales in comparison with the social structure my son has developed online over two decades that spans the world. So the question is, why waste money on expensive institutions for a lesser quality result?

[@nmk5003]

This strikes me as non-analysis, a 3%-5% drop in enrollment at Brown University, which isn't the best Ivy League University out there, doesn't tell me much. An increase in the enrollment to universities in the south also doesn't tell me much. Southern State Universities are very liberal and are usually the only place in a sea of red voting blue. These 2 actually need to do more research on this topic and offer a more accurate picture of what is going on rather than speculating.

[@znamjlaer]

Can you really dump something you couldn't get into?

[@Riasat202]

Quick the projection.

[@salpine]

Good, I hope ppl are seriously waking up.

[@Black_Sun_Dark_Star]

Education should be about passing on knowledge and honing skills. All these institutions are making it all about exams and money. For the amount of money you pay these institutions, the graduate certificates should have been made out of platinum.

[@jamiedorsey4167]

Kids, don't go into the trades. Those of us in them are really enjoying being in high demand. I can be much more selective in the jobs I take and can charge more for what I do. If more people start doing these jobs the good times for those of us in the trades may end.

[@XxDanny80xX]

Thier losing its appeal because it’s a Bank and Picking a Trade earns more then someone paid for colleges over a life time. Salesmen, Real estate, investing understand finical market. Majority of billionaires don’t have an education.

[@Mncrr]

I’ve never been a fan of elitists but had my white catholic son apply to two Ivy League schools just to see what happens. He had a 1580(perfect 800 math) SAT and a 101 average and 7th ranking in a catholic college prep high school and lo and behold was not accepted to either school. I guess he didn’t fit the political narrative. Good riddance.

[@silvertortoise3776]

Wish I had gone to a tech school. Friends that did have a far better life than me. Don’t go ti college unless you want to be like a dr.

[@dmp1962]

My son missed the last year and a half of in person college, him and his peers are still suffering for it. My son had to get a vaccine to graduate even though he had not stepped foot on campus in a year and half and would not be going there the next semester, this was just to receive his actual diploma.

[@tomascoronado9502]

I went to trade school. Ot was about 6k and I now make 103k a year

[@coursecorrection4105]

It’s cost. Most colleges have done away with vaccine requirements. I’m in parents groups for applicants, and everyone is looking for programs that offer merit scholarships and are affordable

[@user-po8br1fu2f]

I think I’ll identify as a college graduate. It’ll be a lot cheaper.

[@WeAreAllWittness]

Well when you see people like BGJ, Jessica Burbank and Emma Vinland all came from elite schools, you kinda understand why people, mostly men not going to Elite Colleges.

[@Bcerto]

Really like their presentation style. You clearly see that there’s things they disagree with, but they do it in such a mild mannered way that makes it a fruitful discussion. It’s good to have this piece of peace from time to time!

[@calipdis2]

College does give you a 6 figure debt!

[@Mr.JoeBangles]

you don't even have to reach six figures of debt to have your life permanently altered. imagine being a college graduate with 60k in debt at 7% and job prospects that pay maybe 50k a year......gonna take a very long time for most to pay that off

[@aminam9201]

Missionary campaigns must be established to spread the new religion.

[@joebagodonuts4039]

In my 30 career mostly in finance. I worked with a number of Ivy League educated people. There was 1 out of several dozen that was absolutely outstanding. The rest were mostly pathetic to put it politely…

[@Riasat202]

Probably because you "work" in finance LOL.

[@LaLaLand11111221]

11 CEOs from Ivy League in Fortune 500 is BS data point. Ivy League is just selective about which students they get in, so these people would have become great in life even if they attended non ivy league schools. So it is corelation rather than causation where ivy league did something to make them ceos.

[@sophieartmusic]

I think they’re interested in the “party” schools.

[@elianamckee]

Kids are going abroad now.

[@toniam.2080]

Thank Heavens!

[@Pegasus384]

Respect for students and professors who are protesting against Israel’s war crimes

[@dolittle6781]

Young people need to realize that life is tough. Thinking in terms of having a "normal"/ideal college experience can be harmful since the world is nothing like a big state university with great sports teams, Greek life, and cookie-cutter graduation ceremonies. Such students will miss out on preparing themselves for a very challenging world they will one day be in charge of. Will they be up to the task of running the country if they spend four years strolling around as an anonymous coed or frat guy who rarely gets to know their professors?

[@aminam9201]

Be proud!

Unless you are a stem student at a top tier research university or going for law or medicine you don't need an elite university to boost your resume. Everyone who went to college and got a degree understands they aren't teaching different calculus or GIS etc.

[@bluecoffee8414]

Actually, about 120,000 students are enrolled in Ivy League, not 15k. Or 0.06% of college population.

[@scarredcitizen2023]

Yeah these stats....

[@WhatEver-gu9pz]

I think the 120k figure includes grad students too though. However, 15k is way too low. I believe Cornell has 15k. Brown and Columbia together make up about another 15k. Add in the rest of the Ivies and you're looking at over 50k especially when you factor in schools that tend to rank higher than most Ivies on lists like US News ie. Stanford, MIT etc.

[@bluecoffee8414]

@@WhatEver-gu9pz yes it includes grad students.

[@hi-q2261]

The girl on the left is the same one.Who said people steal cars because they wanna do their shopping isn't she 🤣

[@tc4660]

The fancy elite colleges want it that way.

[@RobertEgbers]

You can say it, it’s ok, manual labor and working with your hands is something men do

[@aminam9201]

To reduce the gap, children must be taught the art of worshiping the gods at an early stage. It is wrong to limit the art of worshiping the gods to the ruling class (the benefit of sacred knowledge must spread to the entire society).

[@Bobby0505]

Vote for jill stein

[@JamesFrank3000]

5 and 3 percent drop omg no way groundbreaking

[@grahamjones5400]

Instead of a PHD in Useless-ology from Stanford, a certificate in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and feminist studies from Bucks County Community College.

[@Mr.JoeBangles]

As a parent of kids who will be of the college age in a few years the prospect of helping my kids spend 30-60K a year, most likely through l loans, to be subjected to neo-Marxist propaganda 24-7 is not very appealing.

[@charlesdarwin5185]

What is she talking about.? You don't need an Ivy league school to work in Starbucks. Ivy league is for law or politics.

[@pulmo1]

What a relief I don't have to hear Bees meanderings.

[@mojoman327]

Hiring managers everywhere: Ivy league? No thanks.

[@economicdevelopmentplannin8715]

Only government is hiring. Better move to Prince George's county and double up on jobs. Buy a quarter acre with 3 showers renovated for under 600k. More high income job openings are accessible vs the cost of housing in PG county than anywhere else globally.

[@moozerk1264]

Kids need reconsider trade schools and local community colleges. You get way more education and experience in the real world..much cheaper.

[@classicrise1]

Sorry mates...but Harvard is still the best! Most of you would love it if your kid went there.

[@HPunch54321]

Harvard is the only best in historical reputation only. Not today.

[@terrathunderstorms3701]

Best at branding, totally.

[@lalodaniels1388]

I would never want to go to college anywhere other than in California.

[@catsaresocute650]

It's ok not to stick w a choice but unless you are really sure you desire that education, taking a huge loan out won't chnage your life for the better

[@oceania2385]

Young people, trade school is great. Know when you go, you'll still be forced to have some kind of "social justice" programming as part of an associates degree and not a single business administration or accounting class. Do yourself a favor and seek those classes out or you'll be governed by woke ideologues.

[@terryschoenith5249]

MOST "trade schools" are a scam. Low returns; doesn't get you anything save debt- get in a formal union apprenticeship- it's the best way, going to outside "trade schools" is just going to cost you a bunch of money w limited actual returns....

[@goldenphoenixpublish]

Best path to an advanced education? High school advanced placement->Community College->State College. If you like institutional ed? Master's at a University. Got something new to pursue? Go for it! (PHD)... Otherwise, get a job you like and become a "polymathic autodidact". (Oh yeah, you might want to become one anyway, you'll need it in the future...)

[@aminam9201]

Can you comprehend?! The gods cannot blame slaves and then judge and punish them if they were not aware of the existence of their gods! Therefore, the new religion must be spread instead of restricting it to the ruling class! This will reduce the gap between the ruler and the ruled. Be proud!

[@rzhang3075]

I think ivy schools are looking for certain qualities which is a myth. My son is one of those well rounded type… he has sat 1600 all ap and ib perfect scores also. He is county student government president, county concert master and state swimming finalist and he was denied or waitlisted by all ivys / ivy-like schools at same time he was accepted into all top public schools.He eventually choose to go to my state school on full ride merit scholarship. What is funny is that his girl friend who on surface is less achieved got accepted into 2 ivys she applied. As parent we understand those are private colleges they can do whatever serves their best interest but they can be more upfront about what type of student they are looking for instead of bombing then with ads without any intention to admit them. Other than real money there are so much time and emotional toll wasted applying to colleges which I never really want to visit

[@Guido666]

Jessica learned statistics in college....... We learned in in high school.

[@aminam9201]

The common people’s knowledge of their true gods is the inherent right of that people. The gods cannot judge those who do not know of their existence. At present, the common people cannot be blamed. Therefore, sacred religious knowledge must be spread to the common people for the benefit to spread.

[@Aegius]

12:50 "They are also not going to be very good workers." That may be the dumbest statement ever stated on YT! A person is MORE likely to be a better worker without college as college teaches kids to be entitled, Narcissistic and tells them that they may demand having pronouns of their own. A person without college is more likely to believe that the job place doesn't center around him or her and that s/he is part of a team and that his or her work is to be valued per quality and appreciation is to be earned and not an entitlement.

[@CalciumBrony-hv8de]

Good luck getting a job with a degree from bumblefug swamp college

[@ja6975]

Who is the conservative on this program? Both?

[@scarredcitizen2023]

Oh no they aren't with us!!😂😂

[@ab8588]

Ted Cruz , George Bush and Donald Trump went to Ivy League schools and look at how they turned out.

[@byronhotchkiss3254]

Good. College is just a sorting mechanism anyway. It's a waste of time for anyone not studying STEM.

[@stevenwilliambaylessparks3730]

The American Empire is rotting.

[@AyakoTachi]

I think the better Catholic schools will surge in the next decade

[@tbyas4406]

Let the Asians and Jews have the Ivey league schools.

[@deebrown7160]

Bingo no one wants to go if it's 70% one race that complained about AA.

[@blist14ant]

y'all are in your late twenties, stop it. you guys are kids yourself.

[@ritabutler1951]

Ya’ll are sounding like a prepackaged propaganda speech. Sure trade schools are a viable option, but harping on trade/skills sounds like a being a well educated person is not also worth while. BTW, “college experience?”

[@aminam9201]

Missionary campaigns must be established to spread the new religion.