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What is the story of King Viserys I Targaryen? How does the House of the Dragon character differ from the Fire and Blood character? Which is better?
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"A Song of Ice and Fire (commonly abbreviated as ASoIaF) is an ongoing series of epic fantasy novels by American novelist and screenwriter George R. R. Martin. Martin began writing the series in 1991 and the first volume was published in 1996. The story of A Song of Ice and Fire takes place in a fictional world, primarily on a continent called Westeros but also on a large landmass to the east, known as Essos. Most of the characters are human but as the series progresses others are introduced, such as the cold and menacing supernatural Others from the far North and fire-breathing dragons from the East, both thought to be extinct by the humans of the story. There are three principal story lines in the series: the chronicling of a dynastic civil war for control of Westeros among several competing families; the rising threat of the Others, who dwell beyond an immense wall of ice that forms Westeros' northern border; and the ambition of Daenerys Targaryen, the exiled daughter of a king who was murdered in another civil war fifteen years before, to return to Westeros and claim her rightful throne. As the series progresses, the three story lines become increasingly interwoven and dependent upon each other."
"House of the Dragon is an American fantasy drama television series created by George R. R. Martin and Ryan Condal for HBO. A prequel to Game of Thrones (2011-2019), it is the second television series in the A Song of Ice and Fire franchise. Condal and Miguel Sapochnik served as the showrunners for the first season. Based on parts of Martin's 2018 book Fire & Blood, the series begins about 100 years after the Seven Kingdoms are united by the Targaryen Conquest, nearly 200 years before the events of Game of Thrones, and 172 years before the birth of Daenerys Targaryen. Featuring an ensemble cast, the show portrays the events leading up to the beginning of the decline of House Targaryen, a devastating war of succession known as the "Dance of the Dragons"."
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[@fantasyhaven1]

Do you prefer HOTD Viserys or Book Viserys more? Patreon: www.patreon.com/FantasyHaven Merch: fantasyhavenmerch.com/en-gbp/

[@Flipdip32]

I’m a Viserys hater but Paddy Considine completely elevated him over the book version

[@josephbulkin9222]

Book Viserys. At least there, it seems that he genuinely has love all of the important people in his life, instead of being purposefully malicious.

[@theguywhitacringename]

The duality of man.... 😂

[@RahulKaushal1983]

Book

[@HBpenman]

Show version

[@CP-hn1zy]

The Emmys robbed Paddy Considine

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

So True

[@kai-in1xt]

He was good, but the Succession cast were far far more deserving IMO

[@lukebarroso449]

Wouldn't know a good performance to save their lives.

[@turtleguyfan]

there was a lot of competition from other shows airing at the time. Between Succession, Squid Game, and Ozark it was stacked with great performances across the board, Paddy (and the others) just kinda got swept under the rug

[@turtleguyfan]

@@lukebarroso449 there were plenty of performances but the categories were stacked front to back with great television performances that year that HotD just got lost in the shuffle. They know good performances.

[@MiamiGameHunter]

When your performance is so good that George R.R. Martin himself praises it by saying your depiction is better than the version he wrote in the books. Paddy was absolutely robbed by the Emmys, but getting that kind of praise from George is a prize in of itself.

[@martind5653]

Well Viserys in the book isn't really a character but historical note of the person, I can imagine it's not really that hard make better version of a character in such circumstances. But I agree Paddy and HotD made splendid and understandable portation of Viserys the First.

[@DibbzTV]

Yeah. Him and Jaime/Tywin/Joffrey all demolished the roles

[@korndud]

gotta give some praise to the writers too. he's very well written.

[@mockingslur6945]

@@martind5653GRRM was smart for doing it this way. The show he can fix this time.

[@tharunvenkat2192]

"Distant marriage for a Targaryen"

[@laurelsilberman5705]

Ah yes first cousins, it’s barely even incest! At least by Targeryan standards!

[@TaeSunWoo]

Playing as Aegon III in Crusader Kings 2 and about a decade ago in-game he had an event to take his half sister Rhaena as a second wife even though he was married to his cousin Jaehaera (daughter of Aegon II and Helaena). Aegon really is the son of Rhaenyra and Daemon 😂

[@GBfanatic15]

@@laurelsilberman5705 it's not even incest by westerosi standards, Tywin married his first cousin

[@laurelsilberman5705]

@@GBfanatic15 yeahhhh it’s so gross but it’s basically the norm

[@voidx6981]

@@laurelsilberman5705don’t forget Neds mother also is his dads cousin

[@QuinnTheGM]

The real Viserys is obviously Viserys II, the greatest king Westeros has ever seen.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

Good joke 😂

[@fantasyhaven1]

🤓

[@alfieingrouille1528]

​@@fantasyhaven1agreed 👍

[@theguywhitacringename]

Nah, I'd say viserys the 3th

[@Guinnessdrnkr1234]

Viserys ll was the most underrated king and Jaehaerys was probably the most overrated.

[@MrTVintro]

HotD really puts in perspective that Roberts kingdom is in severe decline.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

Fun fact: George himself said he prefers patty constantine's portraile to book viserys and that if he ever rewrote fire&blood viserys the 1st would be similar to Patty's portrail So essentially show verison>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>book version

[@DanLanningPRTeam]

HOTD is a bastardized version of the Dance of the Dragons

[@alfieingrouille1528]

​@@DanLanningPRTeamI didn't say the the actual STORY was better but the CHARACTER OF VISERYS

[@alfieingrouille1528]

​@@DanLanningPRTeamreread my comment

[@alfieingrouille1528]

​@@DanLanningPRTeamplease go ahead and tell me and where exactly I said the STORY was better go on I'm waiting 🤦😮‍💨

[@mrlaw2729]

Yeah this is mentioned in the video

[@The_Crimson_Lion]

How they handled Viserys in the show was actually really smart. It's one of the changes I think were clever and made the experience much more enjoyable. He went from a budget Robert Baratheon to a truly complex character who just tries to keep his family together

[@DanLanningPRTeam]

He does nothing to keep his family together, instead making the wrong decision at every turn to drive them apart.

[@masterplokoon8803]

He literally ripped his family apart.

[@The_Crimson_Lion]

@@DanLanningPRTeam That's the tragic part of him, even though he *tried* to do the right thing he didn't know how to, failing miserably at any chance he had

[@Normthemmafighter]

I feel like they kind of made him basically mentally retarted

[@turtleguyfan]

@@masterplokoon8803 in his effort of keeping his family together he created further rifts. That’s the tragedy.

[@leatheryfoot6354]

Paddy's portrayal of Viserys was so good, GRRM wanted to revise the book version of Viserys.

[@mementomori771]

He should just make a real book

[@e.c.winner7252]

He should finish Winds of Winter because some of us have been waiting 13 years for it

[@Jazzinthedark84]

"refusing to be reminded of GOT season 8, alicent instead misinterprets him as naming Aegon as the heir" 😂

[@Dfvill]

And who can blame her. 😂

[@jobobtargaryen1258]

Paddy wasn't the Viserys we deserved, but he was the Viserys we desperately needed. He'll forever sit on that little iron throne in our hearts 👑

[@cadencumming7795]

I propose Lord Haven launches a hard iced tea line, called Vissy Tea. You're welcome, m'lord.

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

Damn, that sounds good enough for a King! If there's a carbonated version it can be Fizzy Vizzy Tea. I'd totally drink it.

[@adamfrank5183]

I would only disagree with your statement that Viserys' and Alicent's marriage has no love. We can see this demonstrated through their actions. Alicent personally provides tender care for Viserys' conditions for many many years. Viserys listens to Alicent, trusts her counsel, and affords her a lot of power. He also clearly enjoys her company, and she is supportive of his Warhammer obsession. She even fixes one of his dragons.

[@B463L]

They 100% love each other but they're not *in love* at all.

[@TheUndyingCrystal]

I think it was a complicated thing. Alicent cared about him clearly. But knew he was making every wrong decision possible and refusing to acknowledge the inevitable. Even with all the mistakes made by both sides, I don't think she could bear to hate him as he deteriorated into a corpse of a man, barely hanging on as he tried to bring everyone together.

[@Spongebrain97]

In F&B you get the perception that Viserys is just a people pleasing oaf who doesnt notice any of the friction going on and doesnt take anything that seriously. And so I like how show Viserys is more nuanced. At his core he does want everyone to get along and is wise but his problem being nobody takes him seriously because he is too forgiving and is not assertive. He can command that people act a certain way but they ultimately keep doing what they're doing

[@DanLanningPRTeam]

He is the worst King in Targaryen history since he actually thinks he’s making good decisions

[@mrlaw2729]

​@@DanLanningPRTeamAegon the unworthy and Mad Aerys are worst than him lol

[@DanLanningPRTeam]

@@mrlaw2729 nah, both of them knew they were shittin the bed

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

There's the added layer of nuance that he's never functioning at 100% after Aemma's death, because he's either deeply depressed from grief, or he's in more or less constant pain from his mystery degenerative illness for the rest of his life. Chronic pain doesn't tend to leave a person with enough energy or mental clarity to rule well.

[@abloodraven3856]

@@DanLanningPRTeam Admittedly, Aerys didn't. Aegon IV totally knew he was a living shitpost and revelled in it, but Aerys thought he was the hottest shit on the planet and that it was clearly the rest of the world's fault for not seeing his glory.

[@otttimon5654]

Viserys was one of the best changes in HotD alongside the new Alicent and Rhaenyra dynamic

[@fraliexb]

6:15 slightly wrong, the children would be born as Velaryon but when they took the crown they would take the Targaryen last name while they ruled.

[@lwxflowxwl]

The love the family breakdown 😂 at the last dinner

[@Cainthegodslayer]

I'm still perplexed that this channel doesn't have significantly more subscribers. Your production quality is amazing.

[@fantasyhaven1]

We'll get there soon, I'm working hard on it 🫡

[@fraliexb]

Originally I've always thought of the dream Viserys had a out his son wearing crown of Aegon while the dragons roared, was forecasting the drance itself. But now maybe, it's just the crowning ceremony moment when Rhaenys busts through the floor with her dragon and it roars....

[@roycewasik1007]

I feel like GRRM wanted Viserys to be presented as a good man but a bad king, which is way more accurate in the books when he isn’t sacrificing his wife.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

George quite litterally says he prefers the shows version of viserys you know the author of the series and creator of the character

[@z2ei]

@@alfieingrouille1528 Everything taken while the show is running has to be with a grain of salt, especially when he's involved in the production of said show.

[@eldara3]

I never understand why people call it sacrificing... Viserys had two choices during that cesarian scene in the series: either his wife and kid both die, or his wife dies and his child has a chance to live. By that point, Aemma was already dead either way. TBF, it was still quite fucked up to not present the option to her, but let her be essentially tortured without letting her know what was going on. Now, getting her pregnant at *twelve* , when people even in that world know perfectly well that getting a girl pregnant too early is dangerous and leads to future fertility issues, and forcing her through like a dozen pregnancies during about as many years... *that* is fucked up, and was very much done by the guy in the books.

[@sortofrican]

​@@eldara3I've always felt the same way. Even the name of the track playing was An Impossible Choice. His duty as king was to the realm above all others, and there was the smallest chance that Aemma would finally have an heir. Like you said she was going to die no matter what and he definitely should have tried to talk with her, but it was basically the only option he could take. People bring up Daemon not choosing it for Laena, but he was heir to nothing and didn't have the stability of the realm to worry about

[@abloodraven3856]

@@eldara3 "Now, getting her pregnant at twelve , when people even in that world know perfectly well that getting a girl pregnant too early is dangerous and leads to future fertility issues, and forcing her through like a dozen pregnancies during about as many years... that is fucked up, and was very much done by the guy in the books." GRRM has... issues relating to this, considering just how many Targaryens that this is also true for (You also have Jaehaerys forcing more kids on Alysanne when she clearly protests, which kills her, which is basically the same problem in the opposite direction). I think he has some fairly bad misunderstandings of how the world worked in history, because people *were* aware of this. Young marriages were never intended to be consummated until the bride was old enough. You can even see looking at the age of various royal mothers in those eras of history; the average age of their firstborn isn't 14, or even 16. It's *20*.

[@lukebarroso449]

An outstanding performance at the cost of the Silver gold mustache. Give and take. Also i really hope we get Fire and Blood part 2 since alot of my favorite targaryens are from the Dragonbane, his sons, Viserys ii and onward.

[@TaeSunWoo]

9:34 (inserts the iShowSpeed meme of him smiling and nodding his head) I love whenever you name off the Targaryen family wreath

[@RicoG10]

Please keep doing these I can’t tell you how much I enjoy them.

[@keetenwiggins7802]

Show Viserys is definitely the star of the first season. When he banished Daemon for the first time (for context he weilded blackfyre the family sword from Aegon the conqueror time) he changed his hand grip from holding it in a kinda like a walking stick to a grip of dueling in the first episode. He was prepared at that moment to fight daemon with his kingsguard. Obviously pushed to the limit Viserys can make his point clear

[@RmsOceanic]

The most interesting weakness in the Black claim to the throne is neither Rhaenyra or Viserys - book or show, take your pick - ever put much effort to bringing the nobility around to Rhaenyra's claim. Both seemed to take the grand ceremony as settled, when in reality even petty nobles have deeply entrenched ideas of what a ruler needs to be, and even with dragons behind you need to be won. The blacks never bothered with this, to their cost. Nothing more demonstrates this than sending a scroll to Lord Baratheon, and he can't read. An heir who is sensitive to the individual power of lords would not have overlooked such a crucial fact, and maybe gone hunting with him and stabbed a boar in front of him or something. Or maybe Viserys just didn't want to handle all the aggro by making sure their allegiance to Rhaenyra was personal rather than feudal.

[@theguywhitacringename]

Jokes aside, seeing a character from a book that is FAR better in a show adaptation is something that you don't see every day, and yes viserys in both book and show are FAR from being the best king (especially book viserys) but you gotta admit that they are also far from being the worst king, yust look at joffrey, Robert, aegon IV and tommen, he may be indecisive in some cases but he doesn't neglect his kingdom and duties

[@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096]

Thank you so much man can’t wait for your other videos including your dune video

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

It's good to see you your grace.

[@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096]

@@aegorbittersteel2154you to Bittersteel

[@keirangrant1607]

Oh yeah baby! Back to Dragon talk every weekend..... Love it. Families are hard homie. I have a couple and man, is it trying AF. I can only imagine how much more difficult it would be when you throw in power and dragons.

[@BatFlash52]

20:13 Blackwood+Bracken Video!!! Yes Lord Haven!

[@gagenelson4735]

Vizzy T did nothing but stress throughout the whole show

[@SeyhawksNow]

Viserys is the human equivalent of the dog "this is fine" fire meme

[@knightofetro13]

Paddy played Viserys brilliantly. He was the best thing about Season 1 for me.

[@Shai_Sakaju]

2:04 Lord Lyman Beeeeeesesbury!

[@staytuned2L337]

🐝 _bzzz bzz bzzzz_

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝

[@Very_Bord]

6:38 I have no idea how Cristone Cole managed to get away with that? Like bro LITERALLY killed someone in cold blood, in front of everyone. Not even just a rando either, but a friend/lover of the future king consort.

[@leminnie7]

You have my attention with the perfect way to get hype for HOTD S2, the sexy noseless ghoul from Fallout. Almost as sexy as Haven’s voice narrating the big eyed Vizzy T flitting about the screen. Now I’m ready for all the HOTD fun to come! Lets goo

[@Flipdip32]

Fellow cowboy ghoul lover ❤

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

What a amazing video about King Vizzy T The Magnificent!!!!!!! Thank you for the wonderfu birthday l present Lord Haven.

[@zaepham357]

Happy birthday aegor! Are you 1.. are you 2.. are you..

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

​@@zaepham357thank you 3 😄

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

9:11 Yes, you have, and it's gold. I say keep doing it when appropriate.

[@AJHyoton]

Lots of folks on this thread saying Paddy Considine got robbed at the Emmys. I didn't see the other nominees, so I cannot judge on that, but I have seen a lot of Paddy's other performances, and he has always been very good. _Hot Fuzz, Cinderella Man,_ and _World's End_ to name a few, but I do not recognize him when he is Viserys, and it is not just the wig. He has always been a good actor, but in this he was stellar

[@t_hetty1758]

Now I need to know what warhammer army Viserys would run.

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

Book or show version?

[@t_hetty1758]

@@thing_under_the_stairs yes.

[@Alex-yf4zi]

I Guess Book would take Marines And Show would take guard,

[@fraliexb]

I don't understand why Viserys didn't give up the throne when his health left him and his hand needed to rule... Been so much easier if he resigned before his death.

[@skynet5828]

Or perhaps a coregency, like it was practiced in ancient Egypt during the Middle Kingdom.

[@TheUndyingCrystal]

It's likely because he and Rhaenyra were heavily estranged as his health failed. If she stayed and was active in her politicking, Viserys might well have abdicated and given her the throne.

[@andalilbitqueer]

damn, I can't believe you used the CK2 AGOT OST, I love it.

[@Pentagathusosaurus]

Cool but who's the real Slim Shady?

[@jameshutchinson3672]

I think the dramatic narrative of the adapted Fire and Blood which we see in HOTD is more effective. The writers of that show have made tremendously smart decisions to deepen the characters and sharpen the conflicts between them. Their entire repositioning of Viserys as an ultimately tragic character decaying before our eyes actually gave him an arc that will always affect the show hereafter. I still rewatch that scene from season 1 where he refuses the 7 Kingdom’s equivalent of Oxycodone and limps fullbore into the throneroom clean after such a long absence to painfully assert his authority. Such great writing and dramaturgy. Paddy should’ve gotten an Emmy. Hell, an Oscar.

[@BatFlash52]

They did Viserys so much better in HOTD, thank you for this video Lord Haven, though for me, Show Viserys is the real one.

[@Lornext]

The small jokes went so god damn hard in this, holy shit! :D

[@omarfouda6104]

what 40k army do yall think viserys plays?

[@alfieingrouille1528]

Salamanders

[@jamie_d0g978]

Tau

[@marshalsunrise6582]

Word bearer's Cowards and weak but can bring whole worlds to their knees by all the shit they do

[@rc59191]

It's definitely not Krieg lol

[@salamut2202]

I like the ambiguity of Jace, Luc, & Joff's parentage as their dark hair is attributed to their grandmother, Rhaenys & her Baratheon features.

[@ThommyofThenn]

I love how grrm falls in and out of love with certain words. In "Feast," it was *nuncle.* Then after a few fliratious uses in the main series, he seems to be proclaiming to readers everywhere that *calumnies,* is his most recent favourite.😊

[@muhammadhabibieamiro3639]

A video about viserys let's Go

[@Flipdip32]

I can’t wait to see what happens to Viserys’ Lego set in season 2 lmao

[@Vidar93]

"Maybe Daeron?" Been wondering that for quite a while lol glad they finally were like " oh yeah he is chilling in old town"

[@ThommyofThenn]

Paddy was fully availed of the unique opportunity this show represented. Being able to interpret in such a broad sense was hopefully deeply fufilling for him. Many of the actors are nailing this but Viserys seems to be a fan standout performance. Readers are given some decent characterization but I'm glad I saw the series first and then read the book. I think having that mental picture to refer to was key. I tend to not watch a lot of interviews so I wonder has he read the book or enjoyed the previous series?

[@shmee123ful]

the trag family 'tree, is less of a tree but a ball of bundled up yawn and barb wire

[@petertomszabo6268]

Yeaaahhh Haven is Back !

[@jarijii]

Hey Haven! How about a tierlist on Kingsguard knights?

[@fantasyhaven1]

Cool idea!

[@ayiza8511]

A dragon can not be reserved. It’s first come first serve. Deamon needs to give his children dragon lessons.

[@lambielikesit]

very good!

[@mrj1341]

The only way the dance could've been avoided is if Old Jaherys Married viserys with the Queen who never was raenys. It all unfold before his eyes but the old king couldn't see it, bit like they portraid viserys in the show in fact.

[@debragrogan6235]

They were all married off by the time the heirs ahead of them died. The Dance was inevitable.

[@JamesRoyceDawson]

Paddy is the real Viserys. Even GRRM said his version was better.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

Exactly

[@DanLanningPRTeam]

No, obviously book Viserys is the true canon Viserys.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

​@@DanLanningPRTeamOK buddy your arguing with the litteral author of the character who know better than you ok I guess😂😂😂😂

[@alfieingrouille1528]

​@@DanLanningPRTeamGeorge himself disagrees

[@horrorbaraz]

Jager bombs?! I'm not good with accent so I'm guessing you are British or German😂😂😂 love the channel by the way! I'm either listening at work or at the gym!

[@fantasyhaven1]

I'm British! Glad you enjoyed the vids

[@ZZCAR1]

I haven't been this early since KZbin sent me notifications

[@erikkarlsson861]

"Refusing to be reminded of GoT S8", I have never sympathized so much with Alicent!

[@packleaderstealthcamping1808]

I absolutely LOVED Viserys!!! Your genealogy knowledge is impressive. I suppose making a Frey family tree would require skill. And, isn't it badass that Viserys rode Balerion? I believe it was appendicitis that iilled Baelon the Brave.

[@BaronVonDergner]

How the most compelling and emotional scene between both Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon is unironically "old man sits on chair" is nothing short of amazing

[@unreal306]

A reserved Dragon is so dumb big up Aemond for claiming Vhagar

[@terellchapman8737]

Love the CK2 AGOT music

[@Crafty_Spirit]

I learn naughty words when watching your videos. Are there enough nicknames in ASOIAF to rank them in a livestream? :D Crowfood makes me smirk

[@ollierawles4372]

I always assumed the reason Rheanys wasn’t at the last supper was because she was standing as somewhat of a vigil for Ser Veamond? The scene where she witnesses his embalming occurs directly before and could be perceived as happening at the same time as the supper.

[@jacobfugate9778]

HOTD Viserys: Leprosy Book Viserys: Fat

[@bigj1905]

I love Viserys is the perfect embodiment of how “It is hard for a good man to be a good king.” Viserys didn’t have grand ambitious visions or dreams of power, he just wanted to have a happy and united family, a peaceful life, and for everyone to get along. So he refused to accept his family tearing itself apart. Had he been a small lord from a small house, he probably would’ve been remembered as a fair, honest, and good lord. Instead, history will remember him as a naive fool who let his kingdom tear itself apart.

[@Etom.]

I like to look at the book as the way the histories remember him and and the show as the true character.

[@tyrelladkins5200]

The creators claimed Daeron would be present in S2 so

[@morganhunt8051]

“Agnatic Prinogeniture” is officially Fantasy Haven’s “HeteroPaternal Superfecundation”

[@bilalthesultan]

Vizzy T just killed me to begin with

[@MANUnited-ie1pi]

Paddy Considine did an Extordinary job.

[@adambarleyii3357]

Awesome

[@lordoz2578]

Man that’s some booba on Rhaenyra lol Otherwise good video. Definitely subbed

[@taylorbeckett9686]

You know the book version of events - particularly how there's a divide between Rhaenyra or Aegon succeeding and Alicent suggesting their marriage as a solution - gives Alicent more credibility. It's far more understandable how she'd be pissed. Her acceptable suggestion is just overlooked. And don't say that F&B is green propaganda and that's why she's more justified, because that's just not true. The primary sources are varied and the author himself lived well after the dance.

[@earendil261]

Refusing to be reminded of GOT season 8, that line had me laughing out loud 😂

[@thriffty3730]

The only mercy viserys got was when his family reconciled and I believe he died that night because his family finally reconciled he got to die happy

[@jaredbrady5566]

Though it's probably morally wrong; for the good of the realm, Viserys should have officially switched his successor to Aegon upon his birth. As there was always going to be issues.

[@ProjectMathesar]

Given that GRRM apparently told Paddy Considine himself that his portrayal of Viserys was better than his creation, I vote that PC's version officially be declared ASOIAF canon. Any seconds?

[@091overlord]

Probably one of the ONLY characters that is more complex and deep compared to his book counterpart, atleast I think so anyway. Thanks a lot for the great video Haven!

[@joshwells3782]

I never new he was missing an arm wtf how did I miss that

[@GG-yy4yx]

I️ think the most ironic character is Sir Criston Cole, who was pissed that Rhaenyra did not marry him and was just hooking up with him but then has no problem becoming Alicent Hightower’s side piece without marrying him. lol

[@GBfanatic15]

wow I didn't even pick up that he'd lost his arm XD oh my god

[@mementomori771]

Lyonel Strong is the Best hand I will mention this in every youtube video he appears 😊

[@mockingslur6945]

The book is 3rd person account of what happened at this point. The show is actually what happened due to a lot of these people being killed.

[@soko-ban]

Just wanted to point out that the council of 101 isn't about agnatic (only men and descendants of men) vs. absolute (any descendants by seniority regardless of gender) primogeniture but more like agnatic primogeniture vs. cognatic primogeniture (used in most of westeros, i.e. sons before daughters but daughters before uncles)

[@justwex-mapper]

"Aemond claims the dragon reserved for Rhaena" ???? Bro what

[@JasperLane]

I have a lot of issues with hot d, but Visey T is not one of them. He's the only one who can really remind me about the glory days of watching the original four seasons

[@whaaaaaaap]

@7:11 he’s not missing an arm and fat. It’s later shown that he’s now tucking that arm into his shirt and has it sit against his belt, homie looks like a holocaust survivor without clothes. @8:36 brother you just showed what I’m talking about lol

[@organic723]

i found the zooms etc to be UNWATCHABLE.

[@cmd31220]

The fact that Paddy Constantine didnt win an emmy is a crime. He brought such a depth and gravitas to the character that he literally had GRRM himself proudly admit his version was inferior.

[@ThommyofThenn]

Also does Aemond look way older than Aegon to anyone else? I know it's mostly a height thing but Aemond has that more mature, angular face

[@Steven-mk4gg]

Lord Strong was a very good Hand. Edit: with some slight differences I'm learning.

[@HeadbutKneecap]

Jarharis could have just said “if I don’t bear any male heirs then rhasaris will become the queen” and the whole dance could have been avoided.

[@kblacklabel]

Yeah this could all have been avoided if aegon and rhaenyra got together

[@made-line7627]

I thought all of Rhaenyra's boys would be Velaryons until/unless they became king, and then would take the name 'Targaryen'? P.S. Would have loved that scene of Viserys' last evening being spent with Helaena and his grandchildren. I would've loved just _one_ scene of the two having a conversation, particularly if it were about prophecy and dragon dreams, which is something the two share 💔

[@stevenbrown5502]

I wish star wars took their shit as seriously as HBO takes GOT