Installing An Underground Propane Tank (500 Gallon)

[@FarmCraft101]

So many projects, so little time! Lots more on the way folks! Have an awesome weekend everybody!

[@RandoCommando]

Is it overheating and causing it to slow down? Seems like it runs fine when it's rested and cool.

[@Mad.Man.Marine]

Wait !! So I was right when I guessed underground propane tank!!?? Cool

[@SpaceMulva]

was the toad ok?

[@Fireball9394]

Hell yea man...you too John!

[@80spodcastchannel]

for the curious...you could also tell them you installed the worlds smallest single person underground survival shelter.. or a subterranean submarine. 😉😉

[@joeslacks]

I had this exact problem on my old Bobcat x325, would run fine for 15 mins or so then cut out. Blew through with air and i'd get it back for a while but always stopped again after 10 mins or so. If i let it sit 24 hrs it would run for 15 mins again. There was a gauze on the fuel pickup in the tank that was completely clogged with gummy resin. I removed the tank and cleaned it out, cleaned the pickup gauze and put it all back in. No problems since then and it's been a good 5 years or more now. I got that machine cheap and i'm guessing it's because the previous owner got fed up with it stopping and didn't know what was wrong.

[@daolinhai]

Same with my bobcat 751. In this case it looks more like a lot of dirt in the tank... my bobcat did not start anymore before I installed a new fuel pickup. The excavator got a fuel lift pump, an electric one... I would wonder, if hat is there since the machine has been new. I would think, its an aftermarket installation to get rid of that missing fuel problem...

[@WayneWerner]

based on the state of the machine otherwise it's pretty clear the previous owner wasn't familiar with "maintenance"

[@Glidercat]

Thanks! Aside from the farm projects themselves, I have a sense for how much work goes into editing and putting these videos together. You do such a fantastic job! Keep up the amazing work and thanks again for what you do! 😺

[@alsaku33]

Fuel starvation. I had to remove and replace most of the rubber lines in my older Kobelco Mini. The routing in mine caused the supply line from tank to fuel filter to become smashed. I kept blowing the lines out, etc. but the problem would come back, machine would bog and start to run hot. Nice video sir!

[@papawheelie5835]

Judging from the air pressure you introduced that resulted in spraying fuel, I'd suggest that you vent the tank. Try running it with a loose cap to test the theory first, if it works, maybe all you'll need is to drill a tiny hole in the cap to relieve the vacuum. I've experienced a similar situation after replacing a missing fuel cap. It simply sealed too well.

[@timderks5960]

That wouldn't explain the required pressure to blow it open, plus it would have made itself very obvious by sucking in air as soon as there was an opening in the fuel line, like when he pulled off the filter. It's worth a test, but in my opinion, there's less than a 1% chance this is the issue.

[@BRI33NOR]

Had this problem on a fuel tank on all kinds of vehicles needing a vent of some kind. Hole in cap cheapest and easiest. There is not a big vacuum in the tank that's noticeable , it just seems to give a slight negative pressure that slows, not stops, normal fuel delivery. Not saying this is the problem in this case, just confirming it does happen.

[@mikeclarke3005]

@@BRI33NOR yes and any troubleshooting is process of elimination, and venting could be an issue, best to eliminate it before doing header work LoL

[@segdoh]

Thanks for this whole generator segment, great and inspirational stuff.

[@bradhafichuk]

I have to tell you this video reminded me of a good old new yankee workshop episode. Little bit of tool talk, little bit of measuring, and a lot of straightforward work. Love it.

[@Cotton088]

That’s what you want to do…bury a propane tank next to a guy wire. If lightning hits the shield wire or the conductor goes to ground and there is an issue with the pole ground…yeehaw. I do enjoy your videos. Please continue to publish

[@thegrumpytexan]

Turned out great! I went with an above ground tank the same size, and had them install a portable tank refill adapter setup. I can fill my own 20lb tanks from my big tank; comes in handy for filling up the tanks on my RV camper. You have to have them install this before they fill the tank though.

[@aron6998]

The parts needed can be installed anytime even with propane in the tank without issue as long as the large tank has the proper valve for liquid withdrawal

[@torotheplumber3788]

In my state you're required to have a tracer wire and caution tape over that gas line . Pretty cool how you're able to stay composed and maintain a sense of humor through the ups and downs of the project . Great job 👍.

[@stanleykeith6969]

I Love watching you work on things, and you do it right. Don't know if you where trying to scare the wife or what. Great job, something always needs fixed. I bet the fuel tank has crud in it, but the fuel looks clean. Maybe a bigger fuel filter after you clean the tank out.

[@551moley]

On my old kx 121-2, I found the fuel tank had an inch of mud at the bottom, after refuelling it would stir it up and block the filters, fortunately kubota have left a nice big access hole, after cleaning it out I put some descaling fluid (phosphic acid) in to cover the rusty bottom, after a few hours the rust had gone and left the tank like new with layer of phosphor to protect it, over a year now with a nice clean fillter bowl.

[@oliefan3722]

You should build a small removable barn over the plastic lid. On the side paint an ad for Strickland Propane

[@staceyhepburn3201]

I am in the same boat! So many projects and not enough time! Lol

[@johnclemont7801]

Turned out great. Really liking the content and looking forward on what's to come. Thank you for bringing us along!

[@jth1699]

The utility company will crap when they see how close ur tank is - and I'd be really supportive if the inspector doesn't make you expose that line again - you buryed one of the things they want to see... that is the radius of the bends - we always used pea gravel to back fill fuel tanks ... good luck with the inspections

[@aron6998]

Sand is acceptable as it’s a neutral soil and drains well but using a hard riser in the dome lid horrible decision, not having tracer wire/tape with the poly is definitely not legal, the depth of the poly is also questionable, and at least in my state using what seemed to be compression fittings on the poly is also not legal

[@DaveyBlue32]

Should have had sand on the bottom…but it’s way better than had you tossed that rock back in… what inspection!!! LMFFAO’. Should definitely do the warning tape or bury a board with some orange paint… you don’t want to hit that line with a shovel when you are replacing your anode!!! LMFFAO!!! Tear that tank off and clean the fuel system up!!!

[@fishes4life362]

It’s all ok other than the riser in the dome. States don’t regulate propane tank burying it covered in NFP58 code federal. Now they can say the line is not deep enough or no tracer wire is a no no, but the soil comp when it was buried not there job.

[@aron6998]

@@fishes4life362 well that’s somewhat incorrect as some states have LP gas commissions that oversee the installations of propane systems and NFPA 54 & 58 are in play however authority having jurisdiction can place additional rules on top of the federal guidelines

[@petereriksson4405]

Just found your channel and love it! I work on power lines, i would not be to happy to have some one dig up our anchors. The pressure of the soil holds them down, and they go down in about the same angle as the anchor wires, so im affraid you are just above them.

[@roseblite6449]

LOL, love the backhoe that doesn't need repairs. The area I live in won't allow propain tanks to to be buried, so mine has always been above ground. Did some hand sanding on my tank due to some surface rust, then repainted it a couple of years ago. It's been out here for over 50 years, very little rust but figured I would prevent it from rusting out. We got a whole house generator last year to supplement the solar panels we got the two years ago. Personally, even if they allowed us to place our propain tanks underground I wouldn't want to, simply because the anode bag would have to be replaced every 20 years or so and our above ground one hasn't had any problems since it was installed over 50 years ago. Still, great video and enjoyed watching.

[@CordCrenshaw]

I feel like a part owner of all this equipment. I’m so invested in it. Great work!

[@tofmcwilliams887]

An EXCELLENT example of how and why anodes prevent rust. Wouldn't have clicked for me in a chemistry class situation. I assume 'galvanized' metal refers to the galvanic series?

[@arcanewyrm6295]

Yes. Most specifically, galvanized steel is generally coated in zinc. You might also hear about aluminized exhaust pipes for cars and such. Basically same thing, except the steel is coated with aluminum instead of zinc - but with the same anticorrosive effect.

[@pitchblackscatpack8229]

Easily my favorite channel on KZbin. Love your videos, man. Thanks so much for posting so much informative content and doing things the right way.

[@LinkinPark4Ever1996]

In Italy we are required to have a concrete slab under the tank and the tank bolted to it, I guess because the tank could float because of rain or whatever, I'm not an expert. My job is to fill them with my tanker trucks!

[@mikegriff8372]

I have an 06 Terex. As soon as I bought it I had to put in an inline filter like yours has, 12-15 filters later no issues. It is a whole lot easier than getting that tank off.

[@larrymiller9894]

Love your stuff. You are an energetic man. Thanks for the posts. One little thing.. in time lapse the music(?) gets annoying and I mute it after a while and then miss when you come back on.

[@denveyebanks4787]

Forget the excavator for a sec. What are support anchors for and why are you digging so close to them?

[@lebensgesetze]

I always look forward to seeing a new video from you on Friday. Thanks a lot of all your hard work into making these videos, I always find them deeply interesting.

[@mikeburton7077]

Great machine once you get all the problems sorted ,so very useful!

[@johnguay1859]

John great video. My Bobcat skid steer did the same; run for a short time and loose power and stop. The screen in the tank was plugged up with gunk. Cleaned and now works great. It sat with little use for a few years till I purchased it. Great machine. Good luck with the excavator, seems to dig well as it is. Some much needed maintenance will make this a good machine for you

[@billmoran3812]

Easy way to backfill a tank when you can’t get a dump truck close by: order sand slurry from your concrete company. It’s just sand and water, no cement. It can be placed by the concrete truck chute or by by concrete pump. It flows easily and is self leveling.

[@paulmaxwell8851]

Great idea!

[@steveskouson9620]

Is that little green "backhoe" a John Deere? "The one that doesn't need repairs." Great video! steve

[@bobolbrich8207]

I have seen where rust in the tank can cause a problem, Condensation in the tank causes the rust over time. I have put a magnet hooked to a string or wire then put the magnet in the bottom of the tank, pull it up once in a while clean it off put it back in. Works good. Try to find a place at the top of tank to hook the string or wire to.

[@larryfreeman7979]

you can't have an opening in the propane tank to drop a wire/ string thru. The minute you opened the tank to atmosphere. the propane would all vent to the air. creating a very hazardous situation.

[@28thAttempt]

This is quickly becoming my new favourite KZbin channel. Keep up the good work John. Cheers from Hamburg, Germany

[@LivingTreeCarpentry]

I look forward to your videos. Amazing the hard work and the ingenuity you show!

[@gudfarfar]

The fuel filters are full of shit and your diesel tank is probably caked with gunk inside, so the machine will not run great. My Volvo EC55 had the same issue, lots of fuel problems until we managed to find a small filter inside the tank that was partially clogged. I changed the other filters and they looked gritty but not too bad, but that first filter was the issue. The previous owner had polluted the fuel tank with lots of dust and sand while they were working on some projects, and I inherited the issues with it. After that cleanout, it was just like a new machine and worked flawlessly. The lights on it was super bad so I canned them and spent some money on 5 new LED worklights. Best buy ever! It was like night and day. Before, my eyes would strain to see in the dark when I was working, but after the LED's I saw everything. I actually had to install extra yellow blinkers on all 4 corners, for some short transport on the local road, because the LED's was blinding all cars and had to be shut down when I met someone. Getting two boom lights was a blessing, as I could even see inside the bucket at most angles.

[@hollandduck79]

Hello from the Netherlands and thanks for the video . Sincerely Hollandduck

[@Norseman220]

I think the excavator will be good and faithful for many years once you get sorted out it's little problems. You are a clever guy and will have no problems fixing it. Good job.

[@bobhenry6159]

Don't take this the wrong way, but watching these videos makes me feel like Walter White didn't die. He got some skin work done and bought a farm. ;)

[@dadgarage7966]

The excavator in the outro is ideal for many of my co-workers.

[@rurimuni2937]

The time lapse footage of the excavator moving things looks almost like old school Claymation.

[@lawrencepevitts2434]

I'm surprised you didn't run into those down guy anchors.

[@forrestcurry7889]

If the packing in the blade cylinder looks good or it otherwise continues to bleed off after repairs, check the swivel. It transfers the hydraulic flow from the top of the machine to the undercarriage. If an O-ring in the swivel is on its way out, it can show the same symptom. You may also have issues tracking where one final is usually slow and weak. You mentioned that your left side wasn't spinning as fast in the previous video. Worth a look. It's not a terrible repair. Just a ton of O-rings after you get it apart. Great videos. Machine looks solid. Good luck.

[@bobcarry4820]

I have watched a number of your videos and give you an A+. You work with what you have. You actually plan your projects, sometimes even on paper. You explain what you are doing in a professional and serious manner. Your comedy is appropriate, quick and appreciated. Subscribed and rung the bell. Thanks for sharing.

[@Motoxr32]

Really enjoy your thought process on projects. 😎

[@BCJAZZZ]

Man, never heard about the possibility to prevent rust for tanks, using other metals... sounds perfectly obvious, but I never even thought about it, and that it's even in use... The more you know... :)

[@bstiger6482]

One observation you may not be aware of. When you dig that close to the guy wire anchors, that small area left is weakened, and with rain, eventually will give way. Only way to prevent it is 98% compaction between the anchor and tank. I have been there before, trust me. If the power company came out, they would never approve it that close to a propane tank. Sorry.

[@FvGa]

You're having way to much fun with your toys :D

[@michaeltarasenkoop2389]

Nice neat exelent installation great job not like some sloppy Carless installs with full of rocks !

[@garethjudd5840]

Here in the UK all tanks are supplied with a concrete pad bolted to the bottom to stop it popping up when empty in wet water logged ground.

[@Jay22222]

By “Supplied with” you mean “Required by law. At your own expense, of course” right? Not saying it’s not a good idea, necessarily or even just a prerequisite due to the environment in some places though.

[@Highstranger951]

I dare you to build a better playground excavator! That’s were I was found as a kid

[@mccoulombe941]

Great video! On point. Realistic because there's always a breakdown, when there is a deadline looming.💪 Bottom line... You completed the job And the video.🥳 Subscribed

[@jefferykeeper9034]

Next time you put one them in use a tag line to help guide it in place.

[@micheleb.6154]

I find your videos very instructive and entertaining. I always learn something new. Who knew what a galvanic bag was? Keep up the great work.

[@Edward-turtle]

never heard of a propane ennard bag before. learn something new .........exellent

[@Wordsnwood]

So is groundwater a concern? The ground is so rocky there, and now you've made a big hole full of sand... I find myself wondering if it will hold water or is the rocky soil porous enough? Also.. I was worried about those guy wires while you were digging. I guess they do not go as deep into the ground as I was thinking they did. I was sure you'd hit one of the anchors. oh well, glad that didn't happen! And as for future videos, don't forget your shop expansion!! 😁

[@calebfifelski5573]

The tank should be backfilled with wash sand

[@gregahitchcock1982]

I am digging the Link-in park style music here

[@gerhardii]

I would leave at least a foor or more of the propane filler so u can find it under snow

[@shawndyer8140]

Never dig so close to guy wires.

[@BeardManTimLaird]

Your tank reminds me of the early submarines and it makes me giggle.

[@billyhansen7183]

really loving these videos, must be so much work to get these out each week.

[@lawrencepevitts2434]

The tank looks like a little submarine.

[@fishes4life362]

Hope that gas man didn’t lose his job. Not wearing a hard hat, Also let the customer in the hole before putting the Crain away and moving his truck wow hope his company never sees this video. GL you did a good tank set other wise

[@stephenbird9714]

It would be quite fun to keep a running total of how much you saved by doing the work yourself with the excavator. If the firm I work for had to do that "small job" of digging the hole and filling it would have been a few 1000sds...

[@timderks5960]

4:20 My guess would be a restrictive hydraulic or fuel system. In the beginning, when the machine ran right, I was aiming more towards the hydraulic side, but now I'm more toward the fuel side. If I had to guess: Working with it has shaken up debris in the tank, which is slowly blocking the fuel filter more and more. I can't quite explain why it runs alright the next morning though. A short while would be understandable, but running alright for quite a while seems strange. Maybe an in-tank filter, and the dirt fell off while sitting overnight? I'll see in the next 20 minutes.

[@sdspivey]

By digging there, you have severely weakened the support wires. Why would you want to store propane next to lightning attracters? Not pretty, but an above ground tank will last much, much longer.

[@davemoulton2971]

Like he said, with a good anode bag the tank should last. Code requires testing the current of the anode bag every year and replacing it when needed. I have seen tanks in the ground that were dug out 40+ years later sand look almost brand new. I have also seen above ground tanks on the side of a house near the ocean that are rusted out within a couple years. I have seen some above ground tanks that were 25-30years old but they show their age.

[@THEFALCON58]

that's in turtle mode excavator, excavator operator

[@maird1]

Tank vent is clogged. When you blew the line there was pressure in the tank blowing gas back down the line.

[@challe_challe3622]

Really Nice video! Its Nice to know whats the problem is on the machine. We have a problem with our mini excavator it gives randomly full hydraulic flow to the extra function for no reason.

[@daniellassander]

I really love your videos they are so good, i really like that they are aimed at improving your own home and life too, it gives them a deeper meaning.

[@Ydnar1155]

I seen this malfunction before! I think you need to only use it in the morning. It's old and only functions well in the morning.

[@dansprenger4647]

Watching this again in 2024....imagine if you had the 170beast when you dug this hole. It would take no time at all

[@rogerr1296]

Question hopefully you will have time to look at... I'm getting ready to build.... is there any reason you chose an underground tank instead of above ground? I would rather bury mine but not sure what the cons are vs keeping it above ground... well, other than the extra cost of digging a hole. lol... Thanks!

[@VTKingdomsawing]

So that's where the noise for Godzilla came from! I always wondered

[@dougreeb8702]

Yup same problem with my Bobcat 743 could not get enough fuel into the fuel pump. As always I have little time to pull the fuel tank. Eventually I vacuumed the fuel tank out put a little more fuel in it and repeated process then repeat again. So far it is working fine for a couple of weeks now .

[@hayzersolar]

i see comments on fuel thats a possibility also your coil or sensor is getting hot after a cool down its fine thats my experience

[@robertsmith3518]

Putting a 500/1000 gallon tank next to 2 ground rods ( the down guys from the power company act as grounds as well as anchors ) would not be where I placed the tank . All it takes is a lighting hit near the power lines and potential for a "ka-boom" now exists .

[@theoriginalbubba1036]

check the vent in the fuel cap...

[@danieltaylor9761]

Why do they put the anode bag in the bottom of the ditch? Is there a presumption that the ditch will fill with water helping to create the battery which would cause tank corrosion? How many years before the tank replaced?

[@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193]

There was a weird moment there in the first 5 minutes where the sped up footage had a distinctive stop-motion quality to it. Like Jack Frost hopped in an excavator.

[@Locane256]

Love It! Not sure about the music this go around but love all the content 😃

[@pauls3204]

Different laws in USA from UK It is forbidden to bury a gas tank in UK, you cannot inspect maintain or even know if you have a leak , and IF you have a leak? It will absorb into the nearby ground and sooner of later you will have a nice firework display

[@davemoulton2971]

In the US propane tanks are buried all the time. Codes relating to propane tanks are pretty intense. Propane has no odor naturally so mercaptin is added to give it a smell. Mercaptin has a very pungant smell. If you spilled one gallon in Central Park in NY City. The smell would be so bad that the whole city would have to be evacuated. The sand packed around the tank serves several purposes. One is that it will allow any leaking propane to seap to the surface and you will smell it. It also prevents rocks from rubbing against the tank and causing a leak. The sand also allows easy access if you need to replace the anode bag.

[@777anarchist]

Why would a man willingly bury a perfectly good submarine in his backgarden?

[@mikeydk]

To fool the enemy

[@777anarchist]

@@mikeydk That is a right kind of thinking you have there, fren.

[@johnflynn3824]

Watching Andrew Comaroda videos usually when something is losing power it's because of the fuel filters dirty it seems like I watched you clean and service all that already though

[@billz.3444]

New to the channel and after watching a handful of videos, I realized that these are farm projects and not farming.

[@philturner5385]

You need to buy yourself a mud bucket/ come batter bucket you won’t look back.

[@jojofixer]

The "sock" around the tank pickup could be clogged. You blew it open with air.

[@stephenc2527]

Great explanation of the galvanic properties. Huge in the boating world. Maybe american truck manufacturers could connect something to their panels to stop from rusting out :)

[@gateway1600]

You are burying the propane tank at the base of electrical poles? Don't tanks have to be 10 feet or more from electrical sources?

[@williamglaser6577]

Always enjoyable to see your projects. Makes me feel like I am doing something as opposed to being totally lazy !

[@Mtbambeno]

Bet your fuel tank pickup sock is gunked up. Replace it and I think your problem will disappear.

[@bobpickett5987]

I just figured something out. You seem to have a lot of money to buy equipment for your own personal use and you know a lot about everything almost like an engineer, and a chemist combined. Do you by any chance call yourself, Heisenberg. And is Jesse your friend. I love your podcast and I have learned more than I could ever learn in a classroom. You go out of your way and explain how things work and your ability of troubleshooting problems.keep up the good work, and keep explaining the smallest of details. this is where you shine from all the other KZbin podcast.

[@buttman5628]

great video

[@80spodcastchannel]

for the curious...you could also tell them you installed the worlds smallest single person underground survival shelter.. or a subterranean submarine. 😉

[@georgehofgren6123]

That looked like regular gas line for the fuel. It probably sucked some algae or cr@p in from the tank and thereupon collapses once it warms up, cutting off flow and stalling the engine. Just a guess, but look into the correct fuel line for a diesel system ~

[@quantumss]

Mercy, that clapping music gets old real quick. Theres a lot of pleasant music out there to choose from.

[@jamiefultz5937]

Ur seals in the pump are going out or a fuel pump issue

[@evilkidd174]

Careful teasing your wife with that tape measure. She might try to measure you and, well you know.

[@Megalixer84]

fuel cap not venting maybe? building up a vacuum in the tank

[@Mad.Man.Marine]

Another thing that happens is people pour in a ice-o-gas treatment or a cetane booster and the little foil cap falls off in the tank. Then it plugs the fuel I let intermittently.

[@kensherwin4544]

When I had a problem with running only a short time like that and eventually fund the vented fuel cap plugged with mud. The problem was cured by cleaning the cap.

[@FarmCraft101]

I tried loosening the cap but it didn’t help. Good thought.

[@Itslvle]

13:59 I think you guys forgot to appease the souls of the damned before the burial.