Given Farsports is an OEM wheel builder/supplier, they do not hide the fact most of their "Farsports" branded wheels can be spec'd similarly via their WheelsFar counterpart site. And more affordably too. Savvy internet forum shoppers will know this and quickly denounce all things Farsports due to their pricing structure, in favor of WheelsFar. This point need not be contentious however. Especially since Farsports owns their factory, and is well aware of any potential sales cannibalization.
@claudiolima2243 ай бұрын
Got a 1200g wheelset, 45mm depth, 24 inner width, 31mm outer width, carbon spokes, for £700 including tax and delivery from China. Great value for money from Wheelsfar!
@spartanbike22603 ай бұрын
any feedback on rear wheel drivetrain stiffness when doing a sprint ? flexy vs carbon spoke version?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@spartanbike2260 No perceivable flex during sprinting. Although frame, tire size, and tire pressure play a huge role.
@FlourescentPotato3 ай бұрын
Convenience and buying from a well-known brand like Farsports adds value to consumers. Not everyone is a dungeon-dwelling forum warrior who is willing to spend weeks figuring all this out. There should be zero controversy here!
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@FlourescentPotato This man gets it!
@ChinaCycling3 ай бұрын
Great review! I need to get my review done too, haha. The weight of these wheels is seriously impressive as you said. Keep the content coming!
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Especially for steel spokes. Basically no weight penalty.
@jimmynickelz3 ай бұрын
"Nothing but violence here"😂😂😂😂 You Sir are hilarious!!
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Haha thanks for watching!
@justaskz42402 ай бұрын
Is that true or a joke?? :D
@CannondaleDadАй бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for the review. Helped me decide to get the Evo C5 wheels. Minimal weight penalty with the Evo S5 which I can live with. I ride long distances so prefer a more comfortable ride. I know the crit racers would love the Evo S models
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
Wicked! Shoot me a photo on IG once arrived and installed.
@CannondaleDadАй бұрын
@@PatrickLino will do.. Actually ordered the Evo S5 instead haha. Now the waiting begins..............
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
@@CannondaleDad The best of the best I see haha
@leg_snapper3 ай бұрын
Can you explain why steel spokes are better suited for gravel than carbon spokes?
@tonyg30913 ай бұрын
@@leg_snapper comfier
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Steel dampens vibrations better, and flexes more. Basically a more forgiving spoke.
@short_1foodАй бұрын
Hello Patrick, The rim that you review , Is surface finish matte? Glossy? Semi-matte? (It looks great. I want one in the same color.)
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
Satin :)
@whitebeardcycles3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't go with 30 or 32c tires. But love the fact steel spokes still have a place in the modern market. My Yoeleo C50 sapim feels bulletproof too. Farsports has been under serious consideration for next time round.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Mark my words: We will see a resurgence of steel spoke performance wheels in the Chinese market. Stay tuned!
@claudiolima2243 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino I use the carbon spokes for my performance/race days and steel spokes wheelset for "everyday use".
@claudiolima2243 ай бұрын
This wheelset is optimised for 28c tyres, mine measure 30mm when mounted which is perfectly in line the rim edge witdh.
@S9H9-r8u2 ай бұрын
Sooo f**king glad you actually ride before giving an opinion 👌🏽
@PatrickLino2 ай бұрын
This is the ONLY way!
@henrychungfitness3 ай бұрын
Great review on the wheels! Will they survive Chicago winter riding though? 🤔
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Thanks Henry for stopping by! The short answer is yes haha. And will be better at preventing punctures since I'm using lower tire pressure. However besides the mental break, winter riding around here is mostly junk miles. It's difficult to maintain any sort of training plan outdoors. So I'm essentially exclusive to Zwift.
@henrychungfitness3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino Agreed as a neighbour/neighbor North of you, not worth it with the salt, snow and ice to the bike. Zwift is key for the winter months. Ride on!
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@henrychungfitness Find me on Zwift!
@bkking56253 ай бұрын
Patrick, Thank for the review. On the steel spokes. Leaning towards this option since I ride alot of tarmac but rough pot hole roads unfortunately. Do you have any concern about losing spoke tension on the brake side. Seems like the drive side has through connections at the hub. Wanted your thoughts. Also Did they provide any extras in the package, extra Spokes, tubeless valve, etc?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Tubeless valves are included and seen in the video. I believe extra spokes can be requested at the time of ordering. No spoke tension loss while braking, and it's great that Farsports thought of this in their hub design.
@PuneethBedre2 ай бұрын
What are they like with fast descents? I’m a little concerned about high speed wobbles.
@PatrickLino2 ай бұрын
Pancake flat here in Chicago. Unfortunately. However, wheels are only a fraction of the overall stability on descents.
@razorreeАй бұрын
so many options! which ones to choose? Elitewheels Drive 40d ? Farsports new (Evo) S ? Superteam s-all carbon Evo2 ?
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
Whats your budget?
@razorreeАй бұрын
@@PatrickLino like those wheels, around 1200-1400$. I'm not looking for craziest lightest. I want light, but tested and durable wheelset.
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
@@razorree Right now the best value seems to be the new Yoeleo Pro wheels. Take a look at their specs, weight, and especially price. They are also having a BF sale which (when using my code) gets them down to 750-800.
@razorree4 күн бұрын
@@PatrickLino My Farsports new S5 (so carbon) just arrived, did one ride already, wheels are nice and comfy, suprisingly not as stiff as my friend's Superteam S-ALL Carbon Ⅱ D28-50, in fact I didn't feel big stiffness difference comparing to mine old Roval C38
@PatrickLino3 күн бұрын
@@razorree Thanks for chiming in!
@dskordo3 ай бұрын
Good reviews. Does the beard cost you any watts? ;) Thanks for posting
@Keschoo3 ай бұрын
It gives similar benefits as aero bra
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
I'm losing 5 watts of speed. But gaining 5 watts of good looks!
@dskordo3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino thatta boy!
@valiantabello3 ай бұрын
All the reviews for these wheels dropped today and they are all super positive. Did farsports review the video you all posted? Did they have any editorial input? It seems odd that everyone loves them and cant stop gushing about them. There seems to be no arms length emotional distance from the products, just fanboy language. Im not calling you out Patrick, ive been a positive commenter on your channel for years now.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
I appreciate the support! Who else has dropped videos on these wheels besides GC Performance and myself? Are there more than just us two? I haven't bothered to research. Consider this: At this point I've featured about 30 different wheelsets on this channel. Crazy how time flies. In this video I provided specific reasons why these wheels are excellent and versatile compared to most other wheels. 1. Wide internal width for both road and gravel. 2. Steel spokes for comfort and versatility. And easy to replace. 3. Aerodynamic at 58mm deep. 4. Easy to service (and high regarded) hub. 5. And all of these details in a set of wheels lighter than some of my carbon-spoked wheels even at shallower depths. All the common complaints I hear about Chinese wheels have been addressed in these wheels. And on top of that...FarSports still makes a $1000 version of these wheels.
@john_joyce27 күн бұрын
Curious what rear light do you use? Thank you for the reviews.
@PatrickLino27 күн бұрын
Magene!
@john_joyce27 күн бұрын
@@PatrickLino Thank you!
@duncancycles3 ай бұрын
Very nice wheels!! Great review. I do dig the Number6 wheels though
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Also a lovely set of wheels!
@rhozjan3 ай бұрын
Number 6 are actually Farsport wheels, just rebranded.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@rhozjan Same hubs too lol
@duncancycles3 ай бұрын
@@rhozjan even better
@duncancycles3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino love it
@inntw4889Ай бұрын
I’m torn between these, the Yoeleo C60, and the CRW 50/60 or 65/75. I want to get one set for training, and another for racing, so I was thinking the C60 and 65/75, but I want the Farsports so bad! Please help lol
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
The Yoeleo Pro 60 is hard to beat with the Black Friday sale. Plus I have a 10% off code which should lower these to around $760. But obviously thats steel spokes. If you truly want carbon spokes then I'd go with the FarSports.
@c.d.j3002 ай бұрын
I sing Sweet Thing to my TCR often. Love Chaka Kahn.
@PatrickLino2 ай бұрын
Chaka Kahn Chaka Kahn!
@c.d.j3002 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino To my bike: Baby, baby, when I look at youuu I get a warrrrm feelin inside. 💥💥. Those evos looking mighty tempting bro.
@DDGB083 ай бұрын
Excellent review
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in, as always!
@paragp145733 ай бұрын
Leaving aside the pricing difference, what would be your comparison view on Farsports EVO v/s Magene Exar Ultra on stiffness, acceleration, comfort, build quality? I am looking to buy one of these (in Carbon spoke + ceramic bearing version) for mostly flats, sprint riding in Dubai and spoilt/confused for choices now. TIA.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
If you can swing the budget, for sure go with the Carbon Spoke/Ceramic Speed version of these wheels (EVOs5 or EVOs6). They are going to be lighter than the Magene, use 3rd gen carbon spokes, and a better designed hub. Honestly if I can, I'd also like to get a pair for myself.
@paragp145733 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino Thank you so much. I think I'll go for Farsports.
@paragp145732 ай бұрын
With additional shipping cost of $250 for UAE, the overall price becomes too expensive, hence I might move back to Magene. Ever tried/heard of another Chinese wheels brand called SCOM? TIA,.
@PatrickLino2 ай бұрын
@@paragp14573 There are only about 5 actual wheel factories in Xiamen, China. And they produce for every Chinese wheel brand you can think of. Most brands including SCOM are just marketing companies. Both Elite Wheels and FarSports own their own factories.
@BG-lb9rw2 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino that is really good information. I own two sets of Chinese wheels. Light Bicycle and Far Sports. Not knowing that I have always preferred my Far Sports wheels
@gregkane86353 ай бұрын
Do you feel carbon spikes affect the handling of a bike?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Handling, I would not say no. But they are more prone to upset the frame over rough pavement. Especially at higher speeds. Simply due to the stiffness.
@gregkane86353 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino big tyres should counteract this though? Ie 30mm?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@gregkane8635 Absolutely!
@TheBassallyear1003 ай бұрын
i'm guessing it was a 9am 9/20 embargo in China? :D Great video, as usual!
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Gotta make sure the folks see it. Thanks for watching haha
@nizamzainalabidin9962Ай бұрын
After a month using farsport evo c6,what’s your impression?because im considering to buy cadex ultra 50
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
Remains constant to the video. I haven't tried Cadex Ultra 50, so no comment on those other than price. $3500 is wild.
@nizamzainalabidin9962Ай бұрын
@ compared to no.6?
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
@@nizamzainalabidin9962 If you regularly run 30 or 32c tires the No6 make more sense. I actually have a 15% off code for No6 at the moment LoL
@jameseastwood4023 ай бұрын
The way to buy wheels these days is go for the cheapest bearings, and swap them for some high spec Enduro or NTN or similar steel bearings. If you buy with ceramic you are paying through the roof for a short term replacement.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
What is a short term replacement?
@jameseastwood4023 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino having to replace the bearings early in their life. Maybe less of a problem if they are ridden in great conditions, but where I live (UK) ceramic bearings last no time at all (a few thousand K max) - and that's top end ones. The ones in my Lun Hypers latest 1 month!
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@jameseastwood402 FAIR PLAY! Wheels these days are so good, steel spokes and steel bearings are starting to make a comeback. I’m happy to see it.
@DeveryAndrews3 ай бұрын
NTN bearings is the way to go. You’re paying hundreds of dollars just for the Ceramic Speed name/logo/marketing hype.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@DeveryAndrews Objectively speaking CeramicSpeed is lighter than traditional steel bearings. Irrespective of the price/value/longevity, a customer base still exists looking to squeeze every bit of weight savings. And pay for it. Thankfully everyone has to the right to decide what they individually value, without invalidating other’s choices.
@razorree25 күн бұрын
do they require internal or external centerlock lock rings ?
@PatrickLino25 күн бұрын
I use internal lockrings. But they except both.
@yarlon20143 ай бұрын
Why do the Elite Drive not make the Top 3 cut? Very interested in your opinion about possible shortcomings.
@Eirikkinserdal3 ай бұрын
The pawl style hub maybe? If you're not talking about the drive helix
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
It's mainly about versatility: Steel spokes, wider internal width, star ratchet hub. You'll be able to use these specific spec'd wheels for road, rough road, and gravel.
@migatron73593 ай бұрын
Which sunglasses are they?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Monton Sports :)
@bkking56253 ай бұрын
Patrick, forgot to ask, did you go ceramicspeed or steel bearings?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
4:48 mark :)
@FreddeeLewis3 ай бұрын
What rear light are you using here?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Magene L308
@FreddeeLewis3 ай бұрын
Thank you! What mount are you using for it? If you don't mind me asking
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@FreddeeLewis Concentric Cycling - an online shop based in Australia 👍🏾
@icyourbs3 ай бұрын
How do these compare to the No. 6 wheelset?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
These are more aero. 58/58mm versus 45/50mm on the No6. And not everyone has the frame clearance to fit the tire requirements of the No6. Both are fantastic wheels.
@global_nomad.3 ай бұрын
nice review....have been waiting to see what comes out that might make me upgrade from my winspace hypers (v1) though still happy with those for everyday. I think i would go for the 38's though as climbing wheels to complement the hypers.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Expect to see a resurgence in steel spoke performance wheels. The fact these are lighter yet deeper than some of my carbon spoked wheel, is crazy.
@chinnunthavepthavolvong7470Ай бұрын
Are they hold the speed well?
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
@@chinnunthavepthavolvong7470 no but they roll good
@blim003 ай бұрын
How do you compare these with the CRW?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Spec for spec, I would say an apples to oranges comparison. The No6 are great for climbing and constant accelerations. These Farsports are great for aero and have the versatility to be used with gravel.
@inntw4889Ай бұрын
The guy said CRW ;p
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
@@inntw4889 heheheheh
@craven4adventure3 ай бұрын
Nice...I see Winspace released a new T1550.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in!
@adrienvidal86893 ай бұрын
What is your handlebar ?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Prime Bike Components.
@MartinMaskin-zz2rn3 ай бұрын
How do these handle the cross winds?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Rider weight and rim depth play a huge role in crosswind stability. Regardless of brand. At my weight of 76kg I've never issues with crosswind for any wheel 60mm deep or less.
@MartinMaskin-zz2rn3 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLinothank you!
@inntw4889Ай бұрын
This is why reviews need to be taken with a pinch of salt. I like in a coastal area with a lot of farm land and open fields as far as the eye can see. With absolutely no protection from houses or buildings, there are days when the wind blows me into the middle of the road on my stock 25mm rims. I want to get deeper rims, but when i hear people say there are no problems with crosswinds with wheels under 60mm I have to roll my eyes because i know we’re not dealing with the same conditions.
@inntw4889Ай бұрын
Oh, and I’m 78-80kg ;p
@swites3 ай бұрын
Surprised how light these were being 58mm plus steel spokes!
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@swites we are living in golden times!
@anonymouskomentar7833 ай бұрын
Make me want to ride in Chicago
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Pull up!
@daviddang82Ай бұрын
Can you get a 15% discount code on these?
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
Discount code in the video description
@ozgurinsan3 ай бұрын
What happened to SL8
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
I'm reviewing several bikes at the moment: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXvFeauAq8msmtksi=UxBMUPUTbTBNV5TW
@mrbinc03 ай бұрын
How would you compare them to the No6 wheels?
@bingbing34643 ай бұрын
Judging from the finish and hubs, im kinda suspecting that farsports made the No.6 wheels lol.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@bingbing3464 This man knows too much! haha
@mrbinc03 ай бұрын
@@bingbing3464 I’m just looking at the specs and the riding reviews. So even if both are from the same company, the specs are different, right? So how would these two wheels compare is what I’d like to know.
@bingbing34643 ай бұрын
@@mrbinc0 if you email farsports and discuss with them, they can actually make you a wheel to match the specs of no.6.... but yes, the spec on no.6 is intriguing: wide front narrow rear.
@DeveryAndrews3 ай бұрын
Need a rim brake version.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@DeveryAndrews email them 🔥
@richardromano8536Ай бұрын
I am torn between Elite Marvel Helix and Farsports Evo
@PatrickLinoАй бұрын
What's holding you back from either wheel?
@richardromano8536Ай бұрын
@PatrickLino i like the farsports and almost placed my order but wait here comes Helix with princeton like deisgn and the sound of the double ratchet ohhhhhhh sweeet... So, do you think I would go for the Drive H? hahaha
@djdast083 ай бұрын
Ah yes, another Patrick Kino.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
We not even finished yet. Stay tuned for more wheel over consumerism.
@mikekochy16853 ай бұрын
You’re better off, not going with the carbon spoked cause it if there anything like the last carbon spoke, the spokes came apart on me I didn’t even ride the wheels I have a bicycle mobile repair business and I had purchased six carbon spoke wheel sets two of the wheel sets. The carbon spokes just came apart came the laminate it, and they wouldn’t take care of it for me.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
Carbon spokes on your Far Sports wheels came apart??
@mikekochy16853 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino yes came apart and nobody cares. They don’t even want to reimburse me for the money I spent to get them fixed the first pair they refunded me money the second pair they said they would just give me credit. I told him I want my money.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@mikekochy1685 dang, which set did you order?
@mikekochy16853 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino I have to look
@mikekochy16853 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino wish I can send you a picture of the performance invoice
@tonyg30913 ай бұрын
Far too wide. My bike only takes 28 mm tires. I am waiting for the new DT Swiss ARC
@matkrek3 ай бұрын
Which disc brake bike is that? DT swiss arc is old tech, narrow internal
@tonyg30913 ай бұрын
@@matkrek TIME ADH. The new DT Swiss is 20 mm internal, 27 external which suits me perfectly fine.
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
I'm using 28mm tires on these wheels. Did you mean tire clearance?
@tonyg30913 ай бұрын
@@PatrickLino Yes, but I guess with internal width as big the tires will balloon to 30 and the fork of TIME Adh is REAL TIGHT man 😆 Did you measure how wide the Contis get when mounted on these?
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@tonyg3091 6:53 mark - You didn't watch the video 😭
@ernestporee36973 ай бұрын
Actually this is a new thing with pre made wheels….it was always expected that you could or have your wheels built up for you with the hubs from the groupset you were using! The hubs were part of the drivetrain ! Campy or Shimano . But now groups don’t come with hubs? They can get you to spend as much or more on just the wheels? It’s completely bullshit ! And how skilled intelligence is in danger of being erased! I don’t build wheels, but I’m going to learn ! When they first started selling carbon rims that was it ! Just the rims ! You get your own hubs or the hubs that are part of your groupo ? Most places that call themselves a Pro Shop had a master wheel builder present! Someone who builds wheels for everyone from the team to regular customers. This boutique wheel thing is rip off ! And if you have any problems, you’re going to take them to the shop that didn’t make them? We used to be a hands on country ? To much keypad and not enough tool belt…
@PatrickLino3 ай бұрын
@@ernestporee3697 That’s a lot of exclamation marks used right there lol. But I empathize with your viewpoint and experience within the industry.
@unknowinformation217518 күн бұрын
Evo s vs no.6 wheel
@PatrickLino18 күн бұрын
The No6 wheels make sense if you plan to run 30 or 32c tires for various reasons. Could be you're a heavier rider or just your local road conditions are awful. Or maybe you do a lot of climbing. For all other scenarios I'd pick the EVO S.