LUNA Z-1 Review, Ride, and Crash!

Getting familiar with the new Luna Z1.

[@budwhite9781]

Glad you are okay from that spill. I was thinking, at least you have a fantastic view to look at, while the initial pain subsides. I have had my eye on the Luna Z1, since it was first announced. I really like torque sensing pedal assist the best. Makes you feel bionic. Thanks for the review. Cheers.

[@erikkpritchard]

As a person who is unable to do simple multiplication, I appreciate you pointing out the watt hours of the battery. Sorry about breaking in to your Civic.

[@rlbrett]

Great video, Travis. Does the Z-1 have any kind of throttle?

[@jeffster7]

Great video! About to pull trigger on a Z1 myself. Its a very Zen thing, ONLY look at the track line where u need to go! Not the big hole you want to stay away from... brake, go left, u woulda been fine.

[@zodifoxworth6125]

Excellent video footage and terrain. What part of country is that???

[@Thegaragefiles]

What size frame did you get and how tall are you, thanks for the review I’m waiting till they come back in stock

[@aog8202]

Great video, could you tell me what the top speed is on throttle only? I was also wondering how many miles you can go on throttle only. Thanks

[@Wyoming_Wild]

Great job!

[@dennisboyd1712]

Great video hope your doing well, I was wondering your over all opinion of the Luna Z1 now that you've had it a while Thanks

[@fartbus]

Amazing bike overall. With a tune on the controller it’s even better (smoother)

[@dennisboyd1712]

@@fartbus thanks

[@randyclar747]

How does the seat feel? Are you comfortable?

[@stefanmc9]

Glad you are OK. I just got a z1 and already broke the chain on the second ride. What chain did you end up going with?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Did you figure out the chain issue

[@AbideinChristFully]

Do you need a programming cable to change the wheel size setting?

[@aarona5]

The dry sarcasm in your review is giving me life hahaha

[@UnyieldingVigor]

snapped 2 chains on it already? Now I am having second thoughts about getting one.

[@ebikeandtechnerd5608]

What's the top speed using only the throttle? Im thinking of getting one of these

[@econdad]

I searched the forums and couldn't find the rim type and if their tubeless ready. Can you tell what the rim is and if their tubeless ready?

[@ks5695]

Nice review! you look on the tall side, what size did you get and hows the fit? im 6'5, not sure if a large (they arent offering a XL size) will fit me.

[@fartbus]

I'm 6'3 and this is the large size. It seems to fit me pretty well.

[@ks5695]

@@fartbus thanks!

[@enjoyesk8978]

@@ks5695 I’m 6’3” and I was looking for a XL frame too. They say with ebikes you can go down a frame size. The X2 and Z1 frames sizes very slightly. The Z1 frame is 20” and the X2 is 19”.

[@tigerrider6711]

I was about to get one of these but ultimately got the sur Ron. How do they compare? Also what's the size of that rear tire on your sur ron in the background it looks huge!

[@fartbus]

Sur ron is an absolute blast. This has better suspension out of the box but the sky is the limit once you start modding. Sur ron makes a ton more power. Different animals though. One is more dirt bike. Other more bicycle.

[@NickyNicest]

This is a pedal assist so not the same. If you don’t wanna pedal then go for sur ron

[@NickyNicest]

This is better than the high end name brand bikes… I ordered a Norco range VLT and I think I’m going to sell for this one.. shimano EP8 is only 85 NM I believe

[@marcmaz21]

I’m curious why they aren’t going with belt drive? But I don’t think they can for switching gears. Would be cool if they could figure it out.

[@rlbrett]

Belt drives and off road riding don't mix well (dirt, small rocks, etc.).

[@but_did_you_die]

How about a 3-month update? Anymore feedback on your ownership experience with the Z-1?? They are in stock NOW but finding feedback/reviews are few and far between.

[@mike888890]

I'm in the same boat, and same size as the guy who posted this video. 6'3" and not sure which size to order, I'm also having difficulty finding any in depth reviews.

[@Cryptotrader007]

I'm 5'11 with 32 inch seam and order small. Fit perfect. Don't go for Med or large. @@mike888890

[@Indictedheart]

So did u upgrade ur chain to stop breaking them? Or change derailleur to medium cage? Should stop snapping emm

[@fartbus]

Better chain and I’ve been all good

[@SamAndrew27]

I crashed this past summer on my Suzuki DR-Z400. Yeah, about 340 lbs of dirt bike came down on my left ankle and broke the shit out of it, and that's why I'm looking at e-mtn bikes now.

[@donutlovers9462]

Do you know the HT angle?

[@Indictedheart]

Luna are best tuners out there

[@christophererz578]

Man I had my eyes set on the X2 Ludi and by the time I came up with the cash(2months) they sold out of every frame but the Small. I'm 5'11.5" My Dad has an FLX F5 Trail, & its 18" frame, close to the MEDIUM LUNA Z1, but when you compare specs on paper it makes it seem like the LUNA X2 Small frame is bigger than the F5 trail Medium. Has anyone ridden both? ONLY the Z1 is left in Large, I really wanted the X2, but considering settling for the Z1. I have an odd body size due to health issues, broke my back twice and missing a few disks, & L2 vertebrae. So I went from 6"1 inseam of 29" to inseam 28.5" & Height about 5' 11.5". I dunno what to do. Should I buy the Z1 or wait till the release of the X2 Ludi Again? I want a Mountain-bike, that I can open up similar to a dirt bike when I want to, & the X2 being able to be tuned down to normal m600 power & up to Ludi mode, feels like I get that option. My dad's bike feels a little big for me, yet it's similar in size to a Medium Z1 or X2. But when you see a LUNA small frame is for 5'1 to 5' 6" it's been hard to imagine that being a good size frame for me at 5' 11". Plus I know i will need to replace seat post at with a small frame. Being able to ride like a real MTB offroad, & on fire roads or switch into a dirtbike-like mode is such a big deal. Had to sell my Kawasaki Z1000 due to a Diagnosis of Primary Lateral Sclerosis, Now I want a light E-bike, to give me some of that fun back. If the medium or large X2 frame was available I'd buy that. But only the small is left. The LUNA Z1 still comes in the Large frame, but it's not exactly what I want. So hard go all summer & fall without a bike or settle for Z1 instead. Tough for me. I'm not rich, & health issues take so much of my income. That this is a huge purchase.

[@danielwillens6152]

get the x2 small

[@davidh3861]

How is the torque for steep hill climbs? Can it make it up the hills I climb on my SurRon?

[@Indictedheart]

No two completely different animals

[@LectricGo]

Does this bike lack a shift sensor to avoid stressing chain when shifting? I thought I read it lacked this common, key feature. If so, that along with lack of tubeless rims ,would be a deal killer for me.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Did you ever get an answer to this?

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

@@ElevatedVehicles I confirmed elsewhere that no shift sensor and no tubeless stock.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@SWTrailsAndWheels o man that sucks. I wonder if it's possible to add a shift sensor to the m620... I'll Google this, thank you for your feedback

[@dennisboyd9557]

2 Questions how much does it cost and how did the chain break what were you doing at that time

[@TheAgentAssassin]

he had it in the highest gear going up a steep hill just a guess

[@badassbmonkey]

ah man, i thought you were guna poke your eye out on that plant. I walked into one of those once!

[@BikeRidez]

Ugghh.. I still hear the battery rattling just like the X1. I thought they fixed that problem...

[@fartbus]

You think that's the battery? Hmmm...I figured it was the chain or something else. I suppose I can wedge some fabric or something in there to see if it helps

[@do-ineedtosay723]

So glad that you can laugh about your spill, but to be honest, this is why I don't ride alone off road. That motor is noisy! Bafang could learn a thing or two from TQ's HPR50. *

[@LoveItDirtyOffroad]

Skippin all the good jumps

[@thizz503]

What’s the top speed on flat pavement? I can’t decide on z1 or x2. Thx

[@seeyditti]

What did you end up deciding on

[@bobpoor6348]

What is 48 x 17.5? Not 850 via my math for sure. Fun bike though, I have one myself. Once you get rid of the stock programming it really comes into its own.

[@chapter4travels]

It's 840 wh, too small in my opinion, needs to be at least 1000.

[@bobpoor6348]

@@chapter4travels I had a 48v and a 52v 21700 cell w/40A BMS made in the stock case over in Shenzhen. Less wh's, 720/780 but both have as much range potential as the stock 840 with way better low voltage performance. The 52v is the better of the two as it wakes up the M620 nicely. Unfortunately the stock case is maxed out but working on a soft case solution for up to a 1300wh 21700 52v with a smart BMS but need to expand the down tube cover plate to allow for another row of cells. Battery is no problem to manufacture.

[@bry2k]

@@bobpoor6348 How do you go about that? Who do you contact to get another battery manufactured in Shenzhen, and what does it cost?

[@automotivedefenz2195]

Should have committed and should get to know your trails before riding fast. Good video though 👍

[@econdad]

Knee and Elbow Pads!

[@fartbus]

Hahah I pretty much always wear em...just not when I crashed lol

[@michelleevans9869]

How’s the torque with using throttle only up the hill? Also how about a top speed or mileage range? I ride alot on roads then to trails and was looking at this bike

[@jimmitchell8183]

Dope ride man, I would try a sram XX1 chain not cheap but they are solid, I ride a m620 I use that and a Shimano XTR 9100 , not snapped yet but they are 95-100 chain . I have a Luna coming in a few days .

[@fartbus]

@@michelleevans9869 torque on throttle only is amazing. Top speed is around 33. It could easily go faster if regeared. Range is an unknown. I have only done 10 mile ish rides so far. Need to test out.

[@enjoyesk8978]

@@fartbus what is the battery capacity looking like after 10 miles? Have you done longer rides now?

[@Zetler]

This is a better option than the X2?

[@fartbus]

depends on what you're looking for. Overall they are quite similar.

[@Zetler]

@@fartbus Dang I wish I ordered the Z1 instead, I'm only 5'5 so I thought it would be too large for me and now it's sold out.

[@ShelbyvsViper]

@@Zetler My wife is 5’6” she got a medium and fits her fine.

[@LarryRichelli]

I got the X2 and it has a ludicrous 2000 watt controller and I like the frame much better than this. This frame looks more like a cruiser and the X2 is more of an aggressive mountain bike

[@starmania909]

@@LarryRichelli dude same frame....

[@SIMONC256]

Dengfu e22 with a luna sticker 🤣

[@randomeister6884]

ow shit! looks good until it wasn’t

[@vegasromaniac]

5k , No thanks :D

[@TheAgentAssassin]

they're 4k

[@chapter4travels]

@@TheAgentAssassin $4500 as of 4/14/2022

[@TheAgentAssassin]

carboner frame LOL

[@justinbogart278]

I assume you can pop wheelies w/ throttle on this? How easy is it to hold them? My BBSHD throttle isn't smooth enough (for me) to be able to ride wheelies.