Luna x1 Full suspension carbon E-bike. Honest review.

In fact, this is one of the best bikes on the market in price/value comparison.
A customer brought his bike to repair. Took his bike for a spin and said pros and cons about it.
That's my own point of view, not pretending to be true for 100 %

[@johnalex6309]

Adjust the derailleur to "lock out" the smallest and largest rings, and quit with the 2-speed shifts.

[@oldkayakdude]

Those are called set screws, any novice skilled mountain bike mechanic knows how to setup properly. He's also comparing a clutch derailleur vs a non clutch, pretty clear he doesn't know what he's doing.

[@beachbarlouie7522]

@@oldkayakdude So. He is giving good information about the bike I am interested in. And he doesn't have crappy background music - so its a good video!

[@stevenleslie8557]

The first three chain rings really do matter. I've climbed some really steep hills on my X1 and they take a lot of strain off of the chain and other components

[@marcs4091]

Are you sure you're a bike mechanic? Thats a 2 second adjustment on the derailleur to prevent the chain from falling off your top gear.

[@James.._]

If he can't adjust the end point on a deraileur properly then I doubt he's a mechanic...

[@BramBiesiekierski]

LOL. was thinking exact same thing. Screw the limit screw in half a turn and see if it still "falls off the top gear"

[@kdub1666]

Thanks for your thoughtful video review. Luna says they tune gear selection to avoid the 11th gear as the smallest gear has an insufficient # of teeth to avoid chain jumping from the high motor power. So there apparently isn't a need for the smallest gear.

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

They need 10 speed ideally.

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

Luna mototr failure: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2K7gniDeLF5Z6s

[@cameronburch3532]

I messed around with the deraileur adjusting every part of it until it cooperated. Now I have no issues using the 11th gear and am able to maintain 28-30+ mph on flat ground.

[@robbieb8274]

smallest gear no teeth no problem I love smallest equals better but only in the top speeds

[@gregorydobson4307]

Totally agree, got the bafang bbs02, got in the wrong gear at start of a big hill and broke power link. No torque sensing whatsoever

[@cameronburch3532]

I had the same issue with my chain. Tweaking the derailleur helps but it still has issues. I changed my front sprocket to a 42t and added a 124 link chain. I can now get it up to about 35+ mph but sometimes the 2 bottom gears slip and make a banging noise. I may try a new cassette that sits closer to the swing arm to see if that helps. Overall I really like the bike and it has insane climbing ability! I've taken it to several different mountains and had a blast climbing and especially descending. It handles jumps quite well and feels lighter than it is. Thanks for the great review!

[@raphaelgeb.8989]

whats top speed onn thrrottle

[@cameronburch3532]

@@raphaelgeb.8989 If the motor is giving full power I can easily hit 35mph. Sometimes it only puts out about half the power and I get to about 28.

[@raphaelgeb.8989]

@@cameronburch3532 when u say full power what does thet mean does that mean it depends on how the motor is feeling on a particular day

[@cameronburch3532]

@@raphaelgeb.8989 Sometimes it's finicky and reads about 300-500 watts when I'm climbing, then all of a sudden it jumps to 700-900 watts. It is temperamental sometimes and annoying when it does this. I usually just back off for a bit and give it another go. Or I'll try changing gears to see if that makes a difference.

[@raphaelgeb.8989]

@@cameronburch3532 im currently looking at a bike called the frey beast it goes 60kmh and has top parts

[@tonyedwardmarchman]

I have a Luna X-1 and I can no longer turn it on. Everything worked fine on the last ride, Now nothing lights up when I try to activate it. The battery shows about 90% but no action up top. Is there a service location where I can get some assistance near Nashville, Tn. or a Luna owner that has some experience on trouble shooting these bikes? I am a 75 y.o. retired carpenter and troubleshooting electrics is next to impossible for me. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks Tony

[@howartduck1]

Me chain keeps coming off!! Pls help...What is the size and model of the cassette and same with the Derailer? I would like to buy both. Just bought the chain.

[@tonym6633]

I am an amateur , but I can hear the crunchy sound in the Sram and would fix it with a Barrell adjustment . I would then adjust the low setscrew. As for the floppyness I haven't mastered the B screw yet.

[@jasonbrand5762]

7 Speed or 6 w/ e bike chain and use chain rollers bashguard for chainring & frame Forklock

[@Spoder_Man]

He says the computer distracts you on your ride. I wonder what he thinks about a cars cluster. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂

[@pantherpev]

400 miles and have only had my chain come off once. Haven't broke a chain even though I'm trying. Box2 prime 9 in waiting. Thats not the standard display thats an upgrade the regular one is tiny like you want. The torque sensor doesn't disengage during shifts you have to back off. Highly recommended a twist throttle on the x1.

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

Hello Kfost. It is not my bike. 400 miles is not so many. I prefer thum throttle though. If you change position on the bike it will affect your throttle position. Fyu I have the same bike for repair. Gear inside the motor broke. Order a deep socket bb remover for your bike 🚲.

[@pantherpev]

@@DenisBikeMechanic let me guess silent gear they all break I ordered mine with steel check out luna x1 riders on fb there are know issues and fixes

[@Simurgh1000]

Really liked this review Denis, since I'm looking at some Luna bikes. What motivated you to go with external gears vs an internal gates hub belt drive? Thanks!

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

Hello Yune. Belt or single speed chain with internal gear would be much more durable. But they aren't working with mountain bikes. Especially full suspension ones. But with this bike I would stay with a classical cassette.

[@Nesquik41393]

Hey thanks so much for this review. I'm interested in this bike and the frey am1000. I can't decide between the two yet. If you change the cassette and chain ring do you think the Luna is a good bike for the money? Do you know of any full suspension alternatives with throttle for a similar price? Great vid

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

Hi. It's definitely great value for the money. Bafang motor is a bit raw. Don't overheat it, try not to use throttle too much on low gear, can burn controller. 12 gears are acceptable. 10 speed would be better, but don't go crazy about this fact. Let it be the last point in your checklist.

[@Nesquik41393]

@@DenisBikeMechanic thank you for the reply 👍 what are your thoughts on the carbon fiber frames durability? I don't have any experience with cf and I am scared if I get the Luna one bad crack or fall and the frame will lose integrity. Should I be concerned?

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

@@Nesquik41393 that's unlikely with this frame.

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

Luna mototr failure: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2K7gniDeLF5Z6s

[@utahnick]

@@Nesquik41393 Did you make a decision? I'm interested in both bikes you mentioned as well

[@rgood66]

Hello I have the same bile and upgraded to the Sram AXS XX1 and it helps keep the chain from jumping off cassette. Even under some torque it does not make as much noise. I am a beginner and just wanted your thought on this change.

[@MegaMel10]

Any idea what the silver button is next to the charge port on the battery

[@cameronburch3532]

The silver button is the master on/off switch. It's a nice secret anti-theft feature in case someone was trying to start it up.

[@stevenleslie8557]

Just ordered one. When I ride it I will not be using the smallest gear and make sure I'm cautious when shifting so I don't grind the chain on the tooth sprockets. Thanks for the heads up.

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

Luna mototr failure: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2K7gniDeLF5Z6s

[@Filzkiiz]

ThANkU...😁😊😎👊👍😚👌🤙💯!!

[@snapfly7]

All of the issues you mentioned can be easily adjusted with minimal bike knowledge. The bike comes standard with a small display like you are talking about, you paid extra for the large one you have. As long as your not shifting while applying power with throttle or pedals you will never have a chain break or drive chain issues

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

Hey man, I also didn't mention that controllers are burning down on systems over 1000 watts. Motor produces too much heat. Especially on the trails with low speed. And chains are usually got broken when upshifting on low speed. Thanks for your post.

[@snapfly7]

@@DenisBikeMechanic I have noticed my motor gets hot at times, never had any issues with the controller though. Just make sure your not shifting wile applying power and you shouldn't have any drive train issues. I made this mistake, applying full throttle uphill while shifting into a lower gear and bent the teeth on one of my cogs. Hasn't happened since now that I know!

[@erikkpritchard]

@@snapfly7 I am seriously looking at the X1. One reason is the throttle, another is the weight. I have a heavy hub-drive but it's not well-suited for my off-road trail use. I find I use the throttle to power up steep grades or when I'm feeling like extra speed on the flats. How have you liked your X1?

[@snapfly7]

@@erikkpritchard its an awesome bike and you can't beat if for the price. The throttle takes a little while to get used to but once you do it makes a world of difference, I use it constantly. I live by a lot of rough trails and this thing has handled everything I've thrown at it

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

Luna mototr failure: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2K7gniDeLF5Z6s

[@glockasauruswrex6362]

They way you were shifting so early, you will ruin that drive train! The bafangs want to spin high RPMs to be efficient...Ya gotta take them up until the don't pull anymore, then shift. Ease off the throttle when shifting, just like you would with a pedal bike...would you pump full blast while shifting a regular bike? no. Also, the chain jumping off the gear is a simple adjustment of the rear mech, not a deal breaker...some "Mechanic"

[@marcs4091]

Thought this was a legitimate video at first, after watching and I'm pretty sure he works for one of Lunas or Bafang competitors.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Yeah he's shifting way too fast , he should shift one gear at a time and ease off throttle at each shift.

[@oliverbuc1307]

Dude, you sounds like you're hating on these guys little too much for this small of an issue. I own a 9-inner with top sram and it was doing the same thing on the lowest gear, little playing around with it fixed it.

[@DenisBikeMechanic]

O am. At the same time I recommend Luna. Luna, I live you, I hate you!

[@robbieb8274]

both my banfang bbs02 and bbshd canot shift in full power

[@polok890]

I'd put on and 14 geared internal geared hub too. Should go 150 mph

[@Unacknowledged182]

Tire size?

[@lordnox69]

lamo so you are shifting well underload and using the throttle and blame the derailler i thought you where a bike mechanic think of the tension the cain would be under shifting at full throttle at 2000w hook it up to your computer and adjust the tourqe settings it is set all wrong i have a biktrix juggernaut ultra fs and it is smooth as an acoustic bike with the same motor it also has the shift sensor but you still gotta let off the throttle and manually switch gears with pedals its not a dirt bike

[@mly8268]

Before you plunk down your hard earned money on a product you should know how customer service agents at Luna respond to problems. We have been upfront about processing time from the beginning and have told you 2-3 weeks from the point of delivery to the shop. It has been 2-3 days, not 2-3 weeks. I can appreciate being impatient in an era where amazon can process a return within the same day of returning something and certainly wish we had that kind of capability, but we do not. If you feel the need to file a chargeback over an item you explicitly said you ordered the wrong one of, thus admitting the reason for the return was essentially due to your mistake and unrelated to the quality of the product, then I guess that is your choice but it seems likely arbitration would not find in your favor. In any case I can not somehow force something to be processed sooner, as much as I have certainly tried in the past, as my team all works remotely and has no way to even initiate a refund let alone have someone at our short staffed physical location sort through incoming packages for your specific one and inspect it. -Gary Luna CS Mgr

[@jasonbrand5762]

7 speed !

[@joeows6537]

P I take a lot of cycle over anything this guy wants to push or try to ride this guy is a special kind of something but he definitely is no evike expert

[@SuperDurv]

Who the fuck needs to shift like that!?