Seeing the Prager U definition of fascism makes me cringe every time.
@iammrbeat6 жыл бұрын
It was pretty bad
@BlueDragon2572576 жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect to see you here, emperor
@bobbyferg91736 жыл бұрын
The one before that was pretty bad as well, it seems like people know there definition is wrong but since there isn’t a common and solid definition, they just make up whatever definition pushes their political beliefs.
@cjmacq-vg8um6 жыл бұрын
seeing prager u in ANY context makes me cringe. these people are fascists in every sense of the word.
@gavinxq12246 жыл бұрын
I have seen people who pretend (or tried) to be fasicist. They put metal under their shoes, they yell everything. It happens in my high school. I think it means nothing has value except what group consider valueble. Is it?
@yeeman94986 жыл бұрын
At first I thought this said is Mr.Beast a fasict
@bendover-re5jf6 жыл бұрын
same
@theblancmange12656 жыл бұрын
I read Mr. Bean.
@user-qt7nj1gi1f6 жыл бұрын
He's a fascist General of the 9 year old army
@ThuderDragon24086 жыл бұрын
Pewdiepie subs are the superior race and Mr.Beast is just trying to show the NON sub race
@Dino-oh7xh5 жыл бұрын
Same.
@akorn99433 жыл бұрын
The fact that Mr. Beat knows that VSauce went to the school he taught at just makes me imagine him giving Micheal a detention or something and Micheal going “I’m in trouble... or am I??” and then the music starts to play and Mr B just shakes his head.
@zoyadulzura74902 жыл бұрын
Lol, that reminds me of that Key and Peele sketch where Neil deGrasse Tyson keeps avoiding talking to his wife by turning everything into an educational video.
@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes19992 жыл бұрын
😂 you have a imaginative mind lol
@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes19992 жыл бұрын
@@zoyadulzura7490 hilarious. I've actually never seen it but now I'm going to.
@otakarbeinhauer2 жыл бұрын
If a world-wide famous person had been attending your high school, wouldn't you know about that too? I think that that would be something the high school would be proud of.
@nothanks9503 Жыл бұрын
@@otakarbeinhauer not at my high school every famous or notable person ever is from New Jersey so that’s just normal at the school I went to half the girls I dated in high school have been on the news lol
@alpacaofthemountain87602 жыл бұрын
I would like to change "The group is more important than the individual" to "Sacrifice individual freedom for the group to succeed against other groups"
@bladdnun3016 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a more workable definition than presented in the video. Still, fascism is too variable to be defined in a single sentence. Umberto Eco's essay Ur-Fascism is a good starting point.
@helrem Жыл бұрын
@@bladdnun3016 >Eco
@janespright Жыл бұрын
Collectivism
@alpacaofthemountain8760 Жыл бұрын
@@janespright yeah because there is a MASSIVE difference between "hey I don't want to be selfish" and FASCISM
@janespright Жыл бұрын
@@alpacaofthemountain8760 I was saying that you described collectivism, wondering if you were aware. And it looks like you were. I wouldn't go as far as saying that collectivists were selfless but it depends at what collectivist type you mean but i digress. Both terms are heavily loaded and more clarification is usually needed. I don't know if you are in the mood for shooting the breeze. Besides, neither the short sentence that Beat provided nor your is close to encapsulating what fascism is and in my opinion does more harm than good. Cheers!
@reiattano18024 жыл бұрын
The PragerU one reminded me of when they said Hitler wasn’t a nationalist because he wasn’t born in Germany lol. So cringe.
@knightshade26544 жыл бұрын
"Democrats are the real fascists because they said that American is one big family."
@potatoheadpokemario19314 жыл бұрын
yeah, wasn't he australian?
@reiattano18024 жыл бұрын
@@potatoheadpokemario1931 Austrian 🇦🇹 I believe yes.
@fahoodie18524 жыл бұрын
@@potatoheadpokemario1931 Australian Hitler
@bully_hunter_42064 жыл бұрын
No. No. He's got a point
@radojevici5 жыл бұрын
Ah, bundle-of-sticks-ism
@yahyachothia4 жыл бұрын
Another Jreg fan?
@sporeau10064 жыл бұрын
@@yahyachothia Who isn't
@yahyachothia4 жыл бұрын
@@sporeau1006 People who don't understand irony
@yenthusiast4 жыл бұрын
J R E G
@lt26604 жыл бұрын
@@RedScotland i cant tell if this is ironic but i also havent watched the video
@johnnyanderson2-roblox1853 жыл бұрын
NGL, I thought it said "Is Mr. Beast a fascist?"
@nihilgothboi283 жыл бұрын
I thought thats what this video was, then he said he’s Mr.Beat 😭😭 i thought someone on Twitter accused Mr. Beast of being a fascist, i felt so clickbaited, then i just felt slow 🥲🥲🥲
@S3b0rg3 жыл бұрын
"HOW'S IT GOING GUYS, TODAY WE ARE KILLING OVER 7MILLION PEOPLE IN BOTH FRONTS AND CAMPS ACROSS 4 CONTINENTS TO UNITE THE WORLD UNDER ONE FLAG, SMACK THAT LIKE BUTTON LIKE THE BLITZKRIEG SMACKED FRANCE AND LET'S GET ON WITH THE VIDEO"
@ervandrafadhlil4033 жыл бұрын
@@S3b0rg If we get to 1 million like in this video i will declare war on the USA.
@dinidusamaranayake32663 жыл бұрын
Fr
@IceCat1k3 жыл бұрын
You made me laugh.
@panfried_egg2 жыл бұрын
Within the first minute, the line " when I did find [an accurate definition] it was just ridiculously complex" sums up so much of the difficulty talking about it. Because yeah, it's not simple. It's convoluted and contradictory by its design. Very glad that was pointed out so early, really good video structuring!
@panfried_egg2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's best to listen to people who have lived under fascism and written about it; examples being Umberto Eco and Vicente Navarro
@sonsvensson26522 жыл бұрын
Or read actual fascist literature.
@veemie81482 жыл бұрын
@@sonsvensson2652 Why trust the word of snakes?
@sonsvensson26522 жыл бұрын
@@veemie8148 You holf communist thinkers like Marx and Engels to the same regard?
@bernardoohigginsvevo2974 Жыл бұрын
@@veemie8148 Because it's their own ideology that they understand better than anyone.
@neopolitan13465 жыл бұрын
"Everything in the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." -Benito Mussolini
@mikeazer73185 жыл бұрын
It looks like Communism for me.
@DreamlessSleepwalker5 жыл бұрын
Nice bait 👍
@DreamlessSleepwalker5 жыл бұрын
Communists: Capitalism IS FASCISM!!! Capitalists: There is no significant difference between fascism and Communism. Both are totalitarian. Fascists: Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the Jewish Coin.
@recs85645 жыл бұрын
@@DreamlessSleepwalker you're dumb
@lukatomas94654 жыл бұрын
@@DreamlessSleepwalker We are all Fascists.
@supaidaman97504 жыл бұрын
"Creating a white homeland? I just want to build a new Roman Empire!" - Benito Mussolini (2020)
@johannapfelburg62864 жыл бұрын
"wait don't kill them. They're not white, they're Italian!"
@MrDextrator4 жыл бұрын
Johann Äpfelburg lol I liked that part from the documentary as well lol. They must have meant they werent colonizers.
@cfclazio6214 жыл бұрын
@@johannapfelburg6286 if we are not white you are blind and funny how the most racist man of all time adolf hitler loved Mussolini so he must have thought italians were white ,you are so ignorant !!
@Latrine19994 жыл бұрын
@@cfclazio621 Hitler and Mussolini didn't really like each other, I mean it was an alliance formed out of necessity, not out of friendship, Mussolini even wanted his war to be separate from the German war. I mean hitler thought the Sioux (he never met a single member, just read a paragraph on them once), Japanese, Chinese and Greeks were honorary Aryans while he saw Italians as the lowest of white people
@antrim70084 жыл бұрын
🙃🙃🙃🙃
@Wafflepudding4 жыл бұрын
For a moment I read "Is Mr. *Bean* a fascist?" and I was like waaa???
@thelonegunman26224 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome
@bonotoachumi4 жыл бұрын
He will be, if Rowan Atkinson plays Hitler in Peaky fookin Blinders S6
@thatpoorsandersy32yearsago364 жыл бұрын
I thought it said Mr. Beast..
@stellarknight043 жыл бұрын
@@thatpoorsandersy32yearsago36 same...
@kaden95823 жыл бұрын
@@thatpoorsandersy32yearsago36 same
@nicholass.brisco22132 жыл бұрын
"Fascism is when the police are mean. The meaner the police, the Fascister it is. And when the police are really, really, mean, it is Nazism." -Benito Mussolini
@Dothwa2 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh
@slevinchannel7589 Жыл бұрын
@@Dothwa Ask 'Some More News'. He and 'Renegade-Cut' have the Best on this Topic.
@nicholass.brisco2213 Жыл бұрын
@Helzhangstudiosofficial It is satire.
@pufflepoint Жыл бұрын
and the Blue Meanine
@raymondjensen4603 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Mussolini said any such thing, it doesn't make any sense. Now saying "Everything in the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state, " that is something Mussolini, Lennin and Stalin would agree completely as the foundation of their systems. Coerced conformality as the strap holding it all together.
@Porelorexeus6 жыл бұрын
"Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." ~Mussolini The most basic definition of fascism from the man himself. I would limit the word fascism to his method of governance. This is because of their unique replacement of the Democratic legislature with one that represents groups of the state is made up of like workers and employers. The book the Doctrine of Fascism goes into fascism in philosophical detail from their own point of view, so it is useful to get a detailed definition. It really draws the lines between it and socialism, liberalism, and monarchies.
@sandwitchi76 жыл бұрын
Except Mussolini wasnt the first fascist or the "father" of Fascism and its doctrine.
@Porelorexeus6 жыл бұрын
@@sandwitchi7 I don't know who could have been other than perhaps those thinkers in Italy that lead up to the idea. Mussolini want the only author of "The Doctrine of Fascism." Either way the quote is really the only good and fast defining that I've been able to find. Who would you point to as the original fascist leader and how would you define fascism?
@sandwitchi76 жыл бұрын
I know for a fact that fascism in Romania originated from doctrine written in the mid and late 19th century by historians and theorists like Xenopol and A. C. Cuza. The first actual fascist movement in Romania began in 1919 and was led by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu. Although it is possible he could have taken some elements from Italian Fascism, his movement differed greatly in its philosophy and end goal. I'd suggest reading The Nest Leader's Manual and For My Legionaries, if you want to read up on Romanian Fascist doctrine. The exact origins of fascism are a bit uncertain, but I know Romania's did not come from Italian doctrine. There are similarities but it differs almost entirely on a philosophical, social and economic level. Even so, Romanian fascist doctrine could very well have originated from someone else's. I guess Mussolini's definition could be a very oversimplified definition for every Fascist sub-ideology, but there are exceptions.
@DP-ly3zx6 жыл бұрын
@@sandwitchi7 Fascism is Romanian? Yeah try another one
@scythermantis6 жыл бұрын
You're right, and additionally, in Japan, Ikki Kita had written his 'Outline Plan for the Reorganization of Japan' years before the March on Rome or Beer Hall Putsch ever happened: www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Japan/Kitta.htm There have been many Fascists in other nations who may have gotten their start before the more 'famous' movements in Italy and Germany.
@aeternusdoleo45314 жыл бұрын
"Fasicsm is the idea that the group is more important then the individual". That is incomplete. You are describing collectivism in general. Facism also aggressively pursues the betterment of the group, at the cost of other groups. I see it as little more then a modern evolution of tribalism - which given humanity's past, would come natural to us.
@justinkumrow98604 жыл бұрын
its more of the idea that benito mousalini stated himself in the fascist doctrine that together people are stronger than apart which is where the term fascism come because of the tool the fascese (which comes from when ancient Greece went fascist from time to time and the leaders pasted it when they turned fascist)
@HorseyWorsey4 жыл бұрын
Yea makes sense. Just with the added bells and whistles of modern industry and modern cultural evolutions.
@danshakuimo4 жыл бұрын
If that was the definition East Asian culture would be considered somewhat fascist. You're right that his definition of Fascism is basically just collectivism.
@leefellows87704 жыл бұрын
If only the "betterment of the group" wasn't always a misnomer under Fascism
@rmulvena80204 жыл бұрын
Not exactly at the expense of any group. In Italy during early 20s-40s Mussolini tried to balance all political views happiness and unite all of Italy under 1 national identity no matter ur views. He also joined Hitler BC he thought the Nazis we're gonna win the war not because he agreed. Mussolini actually disliked Hitler
@thefrenchareharlequins27433 жыл бұрын
"Fascism is when you do based things. The more based things you do the more Fascisty it is. And when you do a real lot of based things, it's Nazism" - Benito Mussolini
@Humanophage3 жыл бұрын
Pretty based definition.
@alexiarai9553 жыл бұрын
Based? Based of wha-
@ackchyualidealism25283 жыл бұрын
"Fascism is when the government does stuff that makes you not free and the government is mean" - Giovanni Gentile
@NEM0.013 жыл бұрын
I hope you're joking. Nazism is not Fascism. Nazism is just a shitty socialism based on pseudo science. And I'm not Joking.
@thefrenchareharlequins27433 жыл бұрын
@@NEM0.01 I did base this comment on one of the top comments on this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5W8kHyDj61lgdE
@GentleMouse2 жыл бұрын
This definition falls apart a little bit once you take into consideration all the various definitions that 'group' can have and the fact that facists don't care about the 'group' as in the collective population of their country, but rather a group within that, usually one that already has a significant concentration of power relative to the rest of the population. Furthermore facism /is/ inherently authoritarian and violent as by concentrating power and benefit onto the chosen subgroup one must at minimum reduce the relative power of all other subgroups, which is a form of political violence, and automatically creates a tiered power structure wherein the outgroups are subject to the authority of the ingroup/ruling party.
@thelameg6 Жыл бұрын
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@lautrecrb746 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I think it would be more accurate to say that a fascist prioritizes collective identity over individual freedoms, with “identity” being the key word. Mr Beat’s definition would throw all collectivist movements under the ‘fascist’ umbrella which is obviously not accurate. Fascism is not so much concerned with the advancement of the collective well being as it is with projecting strength through uniformity, which requires establishing - and strictly enforcing - a collective identity. In that sense, Beat’s original definition “conform or else” is actually a slightly better one, though it misses that important context of WHY you must conform.
@thebenevolentsun6575 Жыл бұрын
What group did Mussolini prioritize?
@lautrecrb746 Жыл бұрын
@@thebenevolentsun6575 Well, the PNF was an Italian nationalist party, so ostensibly he prioritized anyone who he felt fit into the category of ‘heir to the legacy of Rome’. But in reality he just prioritized corporations.
@raymondjensen4603 Жыл бұрын
Marxism doesn't conceive the group as the collective population of the country, it has the oppressed Proletariat overthrowing the Bourgeoisie which has a significant concentration of power relative to the rest of the population. Same thing, just different group definitions. Fascism and Communism both require an authoritarian power structure..., how can you have a centralized planned economy without a tiered hierarchy and compelled conformality? How do you do that without the threat of violence? In the Soviet Union (and elsewhere) they had Comisars seeded in factories, rural communities, and in the military to represent the governments interests, and the power to interfere if not met. In a collectivists system, they want to know what you're doing and if you're doing what your told because everything must mesh. Communism and Fascism are just two different flavors of the same ice cream.
@cadespaulding38373 жыл бұрын
a list of words that you need to prove you understand before using 1. any word ending in ist or phobic 2. communist/socialist 3. fascist/nazi
@finlaymcdiarmid58323 жыл бұрын
Who the hell coined fatphobia/transphobia? And who the hell is scared of either of them??? one question also... its always said that the end goal of communism is a classless moneyless state yet ive yet to hear or see of them ever explaining how the hell that would work and im pretty sure its never actually happened??? cuba has been communist for what 50+ years and they aint implemented/ idk figured it out? Sounds pretty bullshit to me as its impossible to make a classless society in any country bigger than a mini fridge
@phil3853 жыл бұрын
@@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Hello, just wanted to clarify some things 1. Officially phobia has 2 different definitions: Either extreme fear of something, or an extreme dislike of something. That's where homophobia/fatphobia/transphobia comes from 2. Cuba isn't communist, but socialist. You could call all the communist countries that have existed socialist, as non of them ever got to implement communism, as we define it, even though Cuba doesn't try anymore to implement communist ideas, but just goes all in on the socialist ideas. 3. You are right in that it's almost impossible. The reason that so many people defend communism, and calls it the best possible ideology, is because on paper, it's the perfect system. But that's the problem, it's a system above all else, so it doesn't account for individualism, and it pretty much only works on paper. For it to work everyone needs hold the exact same opinions, and corruption can't be a thing, which is almost impossible. Personally I think communism is great, if you have an island society of 10-500 people, however when you're building a society of millions of people, that can't work. Hope that clarified some stuff
@myothersoul19533 жыл бұрын
@@phil385 " as we define it " Mr Beat has a great video on logical fallacies, you should look it up. One is called the no true scrotman fallacy.
@djc92103 жыл бұрын
@@myothersoul1953"a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs." No country has established communism. Why do you think he is guilty of that fallacy?
@heiwa1323 жыл бұрын
@@finlaymcdiarmid5832 a lot of human history involved classless and moneyless societes
@TMMx6 жыл бұрын
Fascism isn't just the idea that the group is more important than the individual. It is also the idea that the group is more important than other groups. Someone who believed that "the group" to which the individual must be loyal is the entire world population would not be a fascist. They would just be a collectivist. A fascist demands loyalty not to all human beings as a group, but rather to a specific group of human beings.
@-grey6 жыл бұрын
This makes more sense. Collectivist is for *the* greater group. Fascist is for *a* group they think is better than any other group.
Does that not pretty much characterize every major civilization in human history? Hard to imagine the Japanese being more concerned with the Chinese or the Mongols than themselves. Hard to imagine the Aztecs being more concerned about the Congolese than themselves. Just because I love my kid more than your kids doesn't mean I hate your kids.
@Giganfan2k16 жыл бұрын
I think your definition starts to be clunky. In its promotion Fascism has to be the in group for Fascism to work, as it's a political idea.
@StefanMilo6 жыл бұрын
Things have really taken a turn for the worst on the muppets show.
@iammrbeat6 жыл бұрын
lol Don't worry! No muppet was harmed during the making of this episode.
@antiiNoob6 жыл бұрын
agree he fuck up all the video with the muppets show I dislke coz of that
@trollfacenationalist36536 жыл бұрын
Fascism already existed since the Roman Age. But Roman politics was much unique and elegantly splendid than Nazi Germany, United States and USSR combined. It was the only nation that lasted for over a thousand years, multi-culturally ethnic, and united strongly unopposed, regardless of internal and external conflicts, problems and difficulties that attempt to nearly destroy the roman empire into the brink of chaos and defeat. The Roman Empire will be remembered as the greatest empire that ever lived and be among the "Empire of all Empires".
@hacnsm6 жыл бұрын
@@trollfacenationalist3653 Well, besides the socially acceptable pedophilia and stuff. Ehhhhhhhhhh........................
@gittin_funky5 жыл бұрын
The muppets were facist by this definition, believing in the collective group rather than promoting individualism such as Miss Piggy and Gonzo
@pix-can-fix643 Жыл бұрын
To fight fascism, we first must understand what is the true meaning of fascism
@TORQ111 Жыл бұрын
Ok so watch the damn video and stop talking ( I’m a facist stop talking and thinking now)
@brucesmith3740 Жыл бұрын
Read Sorel and mosley and you find fascism is adaptation of marxism.
@eeee-rp1hp Жыл бұрын
Fascism as described by its ideological founder Giovanni Gentile, "Fascism as a consequence of its Marxian and Sorelian patrimony conjoined with the influence of contemporary Italian idealism, through which Fascist thought attained maturity, conceives philosophy as praxis." Fascism as described by the world's foremost scholar on the subject Emilio Gentile, "For Mussolini, syndicalism was the most modern embodiment of the spirit of Marxist doctrine, which he added to the myths of his Nietzschean aristocratic philosophy to reach a socialism of quality rather than quantity." It was an extremely specific ideology that had dozens of theoreticians, fortunately because of that it's pretty easy to understand once you get your head around the Hegelian part
@myamdane6895 Жыл бұрын
Your first mistake is suggesting we must fight it
@لمعان-ض9ع Жыл бұрын
Heck off commie.
@edsiles42974 жыл бұрын
I've been misusing the words "fascism" and "fascist", more often than not when I actually meant "authoritarian".
@finlaymcdiarmid58323 жыл бұрын
Its a very common misconception. The communists and marxists didnt like that a essentially socialist ideology was allied with hitler so they jumbled up the definition of fascism to not resemble socialism, this is still apparent in wikipedia which gives no mention to any trace of socialism (last time i checked anyway)
@mattrdd93 жыл бұрын
@@finlaymcdiarmid5832 communists are against nationalism and are against fascists bc those tend to be the opposite of what they want which is equality while fascist tend to think they’re better than other nationalities to the point they cause genocides. Just because they’re both collectivist doesn’t mean they have the same goal which is communists want to have a world with no class, money, or state and fascist want their certain group based on nationality to be the only ones existing. Also communists want to eliminate hierarchies and fascist think they’re better than other nationalities so that also wouldn’t make any sense
@finlaymcdiarmid58323 жыл бұрын
@@mattrdd9 your conflating nazism with facism. There is no racialism in fascism. And communists arent against nationalism they just usually drift towards internationalism. The USSR was definitely nationalistic but they were technically internationalists. Things are very rarely clear cut and simple.
@mattrdd93 жыл бұрын
@@finlaymcdiarmid5832 nazism is fascism but for Germany and just because fascism is collectivists doesn’t mean communism is instantly also fascism. Fascism has nationalism and is very opposed to other nationalities and it’s not a big surprise if they were to have ethnic cleansing in their country. Also I’ve known communists over the internet and the one thing they hate the most is fascist because communism is about being equal and fascism leads to things that would make others think they’re better than other groups which causes racism and bigotry
@finlaymcdiarmid58323 жыл бұрын
@@mattrdd9 no its not. Fascism is always nationalistic communism can be or cannot be. Nazism is Based on racialism not nationalism thats just added on the top to complement it. Your argument is baseless as Mussolini was not a racist and never endeavored in racist policies, he refered to all Italians as equals.
@alexpentland54626 жыл бұрын
I know I might be being pedantic, but I don’t think that the explanation covered by ‘Some More News’ is actually that incorrect. The definition he gives talks about how fascism is a reaction against the left and of socialism, Marxism and progressivism, which in many ways it historically was. Giovanni Gentile even wrote in the doctrine of fascism about how it was was in part on a rejection of Marxism and socialist values, and Mussolini himself was in part radicalised to his point of view following the views of the socialist party, including internationalism and class consciousness. This also applies to Hitler, due to his radicalisation in part due to the failed attempted socialist revolution in Germany in 1918. Even is inclusion of how fascism often found alliances with conservative and centeist.views is historically fair, as Mussolini ran his party in a coalition which included liberals and conservative nationalists and Hitler formed a coalition including national conservatives and the very enabeling act to make him Führuh was signed by Zentrum, or the center party.
@SECONDQUEST6 жыл бұрын
Miki Boss I agree, I was going to attempt to say something similar but hot damn you said it much better than I could have. I'm also not a teacher or expert tho. So there's that.
@paisleepunk6 жыл бұрын
One day, there might be a fascist left dude as a dicktator. See what I did there?
@MartinsPrusis6 жыл бұрын
‘Some More News’ definition is as bad as all the other ones. Fascism was more so an reaction to anti collectivist ideals such as liberalism and Libertarianism. Defining fascism is the rejection of libertarian ideals would be equally bad however. Explaining it with just look at how the axis signed an non aggregation pact with the communists and divided up Europe for example. The reason this is a bad way to define fascism is that it fits a large amount of ideas that are not fascist and also does not apply to a large amount of fascists such as left wing fascists. Frankly it a definition that is created with the purpose of vilifying the opposition in a very fascist way. All the ones Mr Beat showed as poor are similar. The closest and best other definition would probable be it is socialism, since it is a form of socialism and socialism rarely exists without at least some amount of fascism. BR
@k_tess6 жыл бұрын
@@MartinsPrusis I think D'Souzas was actually the best. However I think it can be socialist in nature (as he was saying). Or highly protectionist corporatist in nature.
@sofiarune31245 жыл бұрын
Nah, incorrect... What you are sayimg more applies to Hitler. Hitler was against Socialism. Mussolini was himself a socialist and based the foundation of his fascism on socialist principles. He actually looked evolve socialsm and looked fascism as the next step as opposed to communism being the next step to socialism. Hitler wasn't a fascist, he just admired Mussolini.
@phoenixshadow66334 жыл бұрын
Personally, I find Umberto Eco's Ur-Fascism to be a good starting point when working backwards. Essentially, fascism is when ultranationalism is the primary driving force of policy.
@XHitsugaX3 жыл бұрын
palinogenetic is important in fascism. The point is that the country needs to achieve pure nationalism through rebirth and cleansing.
@lafuffarosa5623 жыл бұрын
I don't really think you understood what Eco said.
@lafuffarosa5623 жыл бұрын
@Krisbugajew11-11 well Eco condidered comunism as a form of fascism. He also said that Fascism is not simply tyranny: there is the idea of an ideology of imposing an ideology to a society. It's not just a warlord imposing his authority with violence.
@finlaymcdiarmid58323 жыл бұрын
@@XHitsugaX im sure Mussolini once stated anybody that lives in italy is italian and is cool with me basically. So i dont know were that comes from also he barely did any "purifying" historically he only deported a few thousand bourgeois jews because of pressure from hitler he actually deported enrico fermi which wasnt a very pro gamer move
@rjwassenaar75112 жыл бұрын
You should read the article by Onar Am, titled "The radical left's surprising connection to Fascism". and in fact, Fascism is in essence collectivist, is anti-freedom/anti-individualist, anti-capitalist, using propaganda and therefore typical ideology on the left. The lies from the left that are believed by the majority of people are based on pseudo-arguments, for example that Fascism is on the right, because fascists eliminated socialists and communists.
@AnonYmous-xp1ym2 жыл бұрын
One thing I wish you touched on is the historical context of governments considered to be fascist. The points you outlined are not necessarily right-wing, but governments that fit those definitions & that are often cited as examples of fascist governments all do seem to match the dictionary definition. Great and thought-provoking video.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.2 жыл бұрын
@Anon Ymous : _"... is the historical context of governments considered to be fa sc ist."_ There has been only one; the gove rnment under Mus solini in Ita ly, during the W W2 era.
@albums8825 Жыл бұрын
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. that's hyper-reductive. Just because other governments weren't literally managed by a "Fascist Party" doesn't mean you can't call them fascists. There have been many fascist regimes throughout the 20th century.
@andrewbenjamin31286 жыл бұрын
Fascism and National Socialism are different things. They are similar, but not the same.
@acaibulgaraib13215 жыл бұрын
national socialsm has RACISM. and socialsim lmao
@acaibulgaraib13215 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Goebbels Could you please be more respectful? I do know that it is not exact socialsm. It was used in Nazi Germany. That socialsm defends that everything belongs to the government and there isn't any private property that works for it's own good. Left socialsm does not accept Nationalism and of course racism. They also want to exterminate religion.National socialism is more for defending the workers right against patriotic ! bourgeoisie.
@acaibulgaraib13215 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Goebbels Yea that creates the ideology called corporatism. Where everything belongs to the state but there is private property and capitalizm. So you can create a factory for your own good, but state will have right to control it in order to increase the production around the country. It also defends worker"s right and destroys class struggles. It says that workers and bourgeoise work for the same goal, natinoal economy. Unlike capitalism, workers do not get whipped by the rich class, instead it brings justice to society. This was the economy in Nazi Germany
@acaibulgaraib13215 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Goebbels I am not a fan of national socialism. National socialism brings racism. That is the whole difference. And even tho corporatism is similar to socialism, there is also private property and companies in corporatism unlike socialism. They are similar but, not the same
@sasukennn5 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Goebbels No, Nationalsocialism is a own ideology based in different values than Fascism. Please...
@RavenStorm3325 жыл бұрын
there can be a multi-ethnic fascist state as long as "the group" agrees with a single idea/culture and that's according to your simple definition of fascism just saying.
@ItchiusScrotus5 жыл бұрын
There cant be any multi ethnic nation without an overwhelming super majority of the dominant ethnicity regardless of fascistic leadership
@1400IntruderVS5 жыл бұрын
Historically, Fascism is the system of governance that is implemented for the purpose of enforcing communism and socialism which are social orders that determine the equitable distribution of resources for a population. Fascism is a nationalistic authoritarian system of governance. This includes nationalization and Distribution of marketable resources, such as energy and healthcare. Modern political rhetoric commonly infers a right or left difference between fascism and socialism and or communism, however in practice fascism is what is used to enforce socialism and communism. The arguments for either are mostly semantics, as an authoritarian system is necessitated to provide a motivation to sustain these orders, which are purposefully designed to economically subjugate a working population. The greatest difference between a purely fascist system and a socialist system may be how private equity is awarded or determined by merit. Private ownership of residence may be achieved and for some outside the governing establishment a greater level of prosperity may also be achieved from individual production if permitted by the state. However the state reserves the right to seize or purpose production if it is required to serve the nation. Communism insist all production is only purposed to serve the collective. Though definitions insist there is no private equity retained or distributed with communism, there is always a wealthier ruling class, as every order requires a sorted political class to determine the measures of distributions. Entitling selected individuals to enrich themselves from the productions of their subjugates or the collective. A collective is of course just another word for nation. No matter how anyone tries to spin it. There is very little difference between these systems of governance. All are a means of authoritarian economic subjugation. Slave labor states for the ruling classes. For which there are ranks. Entertainers and propagandist exist as extensions of the ruling class of every system. Ranking above educators, police and resource administrators. I don't think I should take up more space getting any deeper than that.
@ItchiusScrotus5 жыл бұрын
@Xeta multi ethnically, no.
@ItchiusScrotus5 жыл бұрын
@Xeta because people naturally divide and form in group communities in segregation and advocate for the group's rights, dividing the nation
@ItchiusScrotus5 жыл бұрын
@Xeta I'm not arguing for a free market.
@leozhang77103 жыл бұрын
the idea that the group is more important than the individual is literally the definition of what collectivism is
@jajauxhal78462 жыл бұрын
Yes. Read mussolini, he sees fascism as collectivist. Just not left-wing, but same
@tugaumakouvov74472 жыл бұрын
@@jajauxhal7846 Yes, all fascists are collectivists but not all collectivists are fascists.
@baph0met2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, so fascism. Fascism is just racist communism.
@weatheranddarkness2 жыл бұрын
@@tugaumakouvov7447 I don't think that fully describes what a fascist might consider collectivism. Because a fascist fundamentally defines themselves as in opposition to communism, that "collectivism" has a very specific character that has strong limits on what is considered part of the collective and what is not. Partly because as a project, at the founding of Fascism, communism, and socialism more generally, were defined by their internationalist character, and practice. In actual practice that internationalism was fragile, but fear of being subsumed by "the globalists" (to use a modern phrase) was nonetheless one of the driving factors towards creating these "national identities" where they had not, objectively existed before.
@danielblank9917 Жыл бұрын
@@tugaumakouvov7447 right, but then we still need to pin down what distinguishes fascists from other collectivists
@sefisyara59619 ай бұрын
"The idea that a group is more important than the individual" is a definition of collectivism. Yes, fascism is a branch of collectivism, but so is socialism, communism etc. This is what they have in common, it's the rest of their beliefs (even though they're all surprisingly similar) that make them any different and so hateful against eachother.
@haze3004 ай бұрын
@@sefisyara5961 that's why they are dangerous. There's no way human will think similarly, we have our own interests.
@davidglenn27394 ай бұрын
So crazy how they all intermingle and evolve from each other.
@DownWithTheImperialistsАй бұрын
They are very much different ideologies, but the origins of many fascists were socialist, which may be what some of the ideas came of. Obviously Mussolini had abandoned a lot of his socialist stuff: "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." while communisms definition is stateless
@sefisyara5961Ай бұрын
@DownWithTheImperialists You're mixing up Communism and Socialism. Socialism was generally a statist ideology back then.
@oddball74855 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you defined collectivism, which was a trait fascism shared with many other ideologies at its peak.
@hochimane65355 жыл бұрын
Can you explain it better?
@oddball74855 жыл бұрын
@@hochimane6535 me?.
@hochimane65355 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm curious
@oddball74855 жыл бұрын
@@hochimane6535 There isn't really a way to describe it, I have a few books about fascism one made by Mussolini but its difficult to explain. Mr beat wasn't exactly wrong but he could have gone more in-depth.
@ayyyyye5 жыл бұрын
@@yigglyyetard3043 why is there always some spa with that profile pic in literally every political comment section?
@michaelhawthorne55163 жыл бұрын
The idea that "the group is more important than the individual" is also what defines Rawlsian communitarians. Might have oversimplified a bit much in this one too 🤣
@sofftwareowy46373 жыл бұрын
I thought exactly the same. This definition is still oversimplified.
@XaurielZ2 жыл бұрын
This is an extreme misreading of Rawls
@dudeman53032 жыл бұрын
Oh god yeah it's WAY too reductive, to a point where practically any ideology could be grouped in with it, it totally just eliminates any nuance too.
@qwertz76372 жыл бұрын
@@dudeman5303 every ideology besides lineralism
@DerpDerp30012 жыл бұрын
It also defines most of Reddit.
@fagozi5 жыл бұрын
“The idea that the group is more important than the individual.” Guess I’m a fascist then...
@JohnDoe-cg4ux5 жыл бұрын
Also with that definition, all marxists are fascism as they promote the group above the individual.
@aleczaender5 жыл бұрын
That should be the definition of Collectivism, not Fascism.
@360Roko5 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of people that are ideologically close to fascism and don't even know it.
@kamX-rz4uy5 жыл бұрын
@@aleczaender I would say that Fascism is a more extreme form of Collectivism.
@angelacevedogarcia18955 жыл бұрын
That is a very flawed definition as far as I know
@KhakiCube2 жыл бұрын
When I was in school, fascism was taught as "A one party system" which was designed to increase a nation's military readiness in response to WW1.
@rienn8559 Жыл бұрын
They just taught it as the bad Italian party.
@flo_for76362 жыл бұрын
I believe that the term “fascism” should be used very carefully and mostly when describing history. The idea of fascism is very broad and narrow at the same time (depending on who you ask) and is there by not a good choice for describing complex, still ongoing political movements or people. There are enough well defined words out there, which do not have such a strange and horrible history; why don’t we use them more?
@tysonasaurus6392 Жыл бұрын
@Black Star yah I agree with this response. just because a word has a lot of historical baggage doesn't mean it can't be applied to modern contexts or less extreme contexts. If a given example fits the agreed upon definition of fascism then you should use that word to describe it, at that point the only people that benefit from us choosing not to identify fascism as fascist are the fascists that don't want the stigma of fascism attached to them.
@raymondjensen4603 Жыл бұрын
All the people..., throughout all the years..., that have used fascist as a slur, without knowing what it is, do not have the right to redefine it.
@jamesfrancese609110 ай бұрын
Everything you’ve said applies to literally any political science term, such as “republic” or “socialism” - when people get all pilpulistic about the “definition” of fascism (a wrongheaded way to approach the study of material systems and events anyway, just my opinion) it tends to lend unearned credence to the right-wing urge to laugh off any usage of such terminology as totally vacuous. Like the person above me, perhaps. Yes analyzing broader reactionary politics requires a relatively careful discussion that is not centered around a single red-hot word that apparently makes everyone break out in hives, but that’s already what any given reasonable discussion within political science looks like regardless
@selenagomez123584 ай бұрын
I appreciate your comment very much. I am doing my homework/due diligence to understand family and friend who are accusing Donald Trump and conservatives of being fascists. The allegation became troubling to me and as I search and listen I am not sure what conclusion to come to... I am still processing.
@a.j.c.9084 жыл бұрын
"First the fatherland, then the Movement, then the men" - Juan Domingo Perón
@user-kd3gz1hl1e4 жыл бұрын
"Mussolini was the greatest man of our century, but he committed certain disastrous errors. I, who have the advantage of his precedent before me, shall follow in his footsteps but also avoid his errors." “Italian Fascism led popular organizations to an effective participation in national life, which had always been denied to the people. Before Mussolini’s rise to power, the nation was on one hand and the worker on the other, and the latter had no involvement in the former. […] In Germany happened exactly the same phenomenon, meaning, an organized state for a perfectly ordered community, for a perfectly ordered population as well: a community where the state was the tool of the nation, whose representation was, under my view, effective. I thought that this should be the future political form, meaning, the true people’s democracy, the true social democracy" Juan Perón
@benjibenj74063 жыл бұрын
@@elmascapo6588 fascist*
@benjibenj74063 жыл бұрын
@@elmascapo6588 which isnt socialism lmao
@benjibenj74063 жыл бұрын
@@elmascapo6588 hitler imprisoned all communists and socialists before he even touched the jews...
@benjibenj74063 жыл бұрын
@@elmascapo6588 he killed them for being socialist
@FirstLast-cg9ic6 жыл бұрын
I read the title as “is MrBeast a Fascist?”
@dystopicdesigns5 жыл бұрын
First Last me too hahaha
@thescratchyscratch78485 жыл бұрын
First Last lmao same
@boilledwater_33065 жыл бұрын
sammemememeeee
@thatkidriley96702 жыл бұрын
Bro I did that too lmao
@andrewwestcott91722 жыл бұрын
I think that definition isn't quite right, as it would essentially mean most parents have a fascist approach to their families (i.e. "my family is more important than me as an individual").
@allipse8224 Жыл бұрын
True. That means I'm fascist as well
@zakdickerson41855 ай бұрын
I don’t think that these ideas can be applied outside of a racial, national, or cultural group. That is required for it to be facism.
@willyhill75095 жыл бұрын
Well the Fascist party of Italy had a manifesto, it's not hard to search for and you can find out for yourself by reading it, not hard really is it. A quick summary is that Italy and Germany, formerly major powers were squeezed out by Anglo American Capitalism on the one hand and Soviet Communism on the other. Neither Germany or Italy wanted to be dominated by Britain/America or Russia so they developed their own alternatives which were neither Capitalist or Socialist but had some elements of both. The German version placed a great emphasis on race and the Italian version didn't mention race at all.
@zakback99375 жыл бұрын
Willy Hill also there’s the Romanians, the legion of Michael the Archangel whom were more practicing Christians. There’s a book called For my legionaries and prison notes
@Seeanwheresmyjumper5 жыл бұрын
What about the British fascists though
@ImNotJoshPotter5 жыл бұрын
@@Seeanwheresmyjumper Mosley had a book you can easily find a pdf of that was a FAQ for fascism
@jaredvillhelm20025 жыл бұрын
Thank god someone has read a bit on the topic.
@sofiarune31245 жыл бұрын
"Tends to be right wing" In his research of Mussolini did he purposefully overlook his strong socialist background and his mentioning that socialism formed the basis of his fascism?
@mrjimmbo5 жыл бұрын
Other peoples personal definitions are wrong, proceeds to give personal definition
@NoOne-kx2hk5 жыл бұрын
@M.0rgazm I dont know if his definition is wrong or not, but the Oxford dictionary's definition was terribly wrong and dangerously at that
@possiblybean20235 жыл бұрын
@@NoOne-kx2hk he defined utilitarianism dead on rather than fascism
@NoOne-kx2hk5 жыл бұрын
he still did much better than Oxford dictionary is all I am saying. Didnt like his definition either I merely enjoyed the discussion, but still the fact is that Oxford dictionary has it so wrong its like they are out of topic
@ImNotJoshPotter5 жыл бұрын
@@NoOne-kx2hk can you define it in a sentence?
@cheeto40275 жыл бұрын
@@ImNotJoshPotter fascism is an ideology that promotes extreme nationalism, social conservativism, and authoritarianism but uniquely rejects both capitalism and communism most of the time replacing it with a model called corporatism
@matthewflynn54583 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine studied Central European history. What he told me was basically, Facism is a highly specific word for a broad set of characteristics. His opinion was of all the definitions of Facism he had come across, palingenetic ultranationalism was the nearest one. But even then that definition is also really broad and really specific at the same time and he felt there was issues with it. Fantastic video BTW not commenting to be a "Well actually". I just think it's important to note that regardless of the field of studies, when it comes to theories experts can have really broad and varied interpretations of the same characteristics.
@vinnyfrancone35672 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t a more accurate source instead of friends opinion be there writings of Gentile, one of the architects of Fascist Italy. It is a form of socialism, with an emphasis on national identity. All socialist states are not fascist, but all fascist states are socialist.
@rightousIke2 жыл бұрын
@@vinnyfrancone3567 No because authoritarianism is more closely aligned with fascism.
@vinnyfrancone35672 жыл бұрын
@@rightousIke ridiculous premise. Easel in authorization? Stalin? pol pot? North Korea? In your head all are ‘right’ wing. In reality none of those are. All Marxist
@vinnyfrancone35672 жыл бұрын
Lenin. Ypo
@vinnyfrancone35672 жыл бұрын
@@rightousIke Lenin. Typo
@thecreepers34784 ай бұрын
"Stop quoting the shit that I didn't said"- Benito Mussolini
@ElderEagle424 ай бұрын
Also Sun Tzu
@jonle78003 жыл бұрын
I thought the thumbnail said “is mr beast a fascist?” 😂😂😂
@k0mentator5073 жыл бұрын
@S̶c̷r̴ip̶̝͘të̵́d̸̔ - 『TGI』 no
@k0mentator5073 жыл бұрын
@S̶c̷r̴ip̶̝͘të̵́d̸̔ - 『TGI』 I'm by no means lib
@tylerdarroch55123 жыл бұрын
Wtf. Mr. Beast based!?
@тонкийчлен3 жыл бұрын
@ཊꖦƬGПꖦཏ S̶c̷r̴ip̶̝͘të̵́d̸̔ so you're alt right?
@huntersmith38885 жыл бұрын
>Spends ten minutes defining fascism. >Actually defines collectivism.
@hochimane65355 жыл бұрын
Could you explain it better?
@huntersmith38885 жыл бұрын
@@hochimane6535 yes: He defined it as "The idea that the group is more important than the individual." That's oversimplified (inexcusably so). That (collectivism) is just one aspect of fascism. Fascism specifically involves collectivism in the form of Nationalism (usually ethnonationalism). It wasn't an actual principle, rather just a means to an end. The actual desired end was unification of classes within the people and a state controlled economy with a mix of private and public production. All else was a means.
@g.araujo10435 жыл бұрын
Well, fascism is all about collectvism - a big one collective that appeal to national identity. But collectivism is not what defines fascism, in fact, collectivism is pretty much in the core of modern socialism as well, but instead of a big collective, socialists tend to divide the society in multiple collectives that appeal to the class struggle aspect (an extended version of class struggle, which is not about proletariat x bourgeois anymore, but about men x women, whites x blacks, gays x straight...) . Both are enemies of individual freedom and of everything that made the west the pinacle of human civilization. Both are recipes that authoritarian and/or totalitiarian leaders follow in order to ascend to power, increase their power or to just keep their power. In short, collectivism = cancer. All dictators love it !
@feynstein10045 жыл бұрын
So what exactly is fascism?
@sofiarune31245 жыл бұрын
You do know you can just read the fuckers book right?
@awc60075 жыл бұрын
“Fascism is just communism but Gay” -Joseph Stalin
@Azoonaloc134 жыл бұрын
"Communism is just Fascism but poor" - Adolf Hitler (no really)
@mcwaff86614 жыл бұрын
@@Azoonaloc13 and also you're confusing nazism as fascism classic move
@Azoonaloc134 жыл бұрын
@@mcwaff8661 whooooooooshh
@Azoonaloc134 жыл бұрын
@Iblis König ive literally written an academic summary on mein kampf you dumbass
@NicklasZandeVGCP20014 жыл бұрын
Fascism hates people who are of the "gay" variety. Do you know how many LGBTQ+ people were killed under Fascism? 15,000, max!
@tonuka6257 Жыл бұрын
I gasped when you pulled up an old contrapoints video at 2:00. Saw that one when it came out, long gone by now
@HelloWorld-xf2ks6 жыл бұрын
The puppet show was unexpected, but highly appreciated!
@iammrbeat6 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@jackfitzsimons25692 жыл бұрын
At first I didn't understand a single thing you said. But then the puppets came out and I understood everything. Thanks Mr. Beat!
@govimodo92312 жыл бұрын
It kinda looked the way MAGA was going
@TheDankBoi692 жыл бұрын
@@govimodo9231 nah I think it's more like the woke left wing
@govimodo92312 жыл бұрын
@@TheDankBoi69 then you don’t understand fascism. At all.
@andrewbrock46362 жыл бұрын
@@TheDankBoi69 but Biden is hardly a cult of personality. A majority of democrats don't even want him to run again... Trump on the other hand has merchandise and stans. And if anybody within his circle had the slightest criticism of him they were expelled and made an enemy.
@rorymilsom1491 Жыл бұрын
@@govimodo9231 I would say in some ways it's both. For instance, talking bad about the collective is forbidden, scapegoating all their problems. Using lethal force (deplatforming/ cancellation). They have a lot of parallels
@dontworryillwait36894 жыл бұрын
This video seems like it muddied the waters even more 😂
@uncreativename99364 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what he defines in the video is collectivism, which isn't exclusive to Fascism. Hell, you can even make legitimate arguments that Fascism is individualist like Evola.
@suheti4 жыл бұрын
Misused words don’t deserve accurate definition. We simply need other words to label the concept we want to convey.
@roundrockb4 жыл бұрын
@@uncreativename9936 yeah if you make a video on fascism and don't include any political scholars you are just talking out your ass.
@WaterVolt19174 жыл бұрын
@@roundrockb Did you even watch the whole video?
@roundrockb4 жыл бұрын
@@WaterVolt1917 not only have I watched his video twice now, but I've looked at the sources he cites and none of them are political scholars or academic papers. They are articles. This man is not only just stating an assumption but is putting out misinformation about the topic he is trying to present
@isaiahfisher23372 жыл бұрын
"Everyone else has it wrong. Here's my oversimplified definition that can literally apply to half the ideologies that existed throughout history, without sources or even reasoning" Well done, sir.
@EventuallyTM2 жыл бұрын
Why are you mad?
@dropyourself2 жыл бұрын
@@EventuallyTM he's not he's just pointing out that mr beat is a horseshoe centrist that probably thinks communist is fascism
@marvin26782 жыл бұрын
@@EventuallyTM because hes right and that video sucked
@marvin26782 жыл бұрын
youre right but still better than contzra points
@alexkumm44882 жыл бұрын
The definition that it's when "the group is more important than the individual" sounds more like Communism
@YouthNumismatics4 жыл бұрын
Men now a days are tired of Liberty, men now a days want rule by the few. -Benito Mussolini 1923
@Cybernaut5514 жыл бұрын
Benito should "tell that to Kanjiclub" -- Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
@thebestofallworlds1876 жыл бұрын
3:30 ... that's not fascism, that is collectivism.
@history-jovian Жыл бұрын
@@thebestofallworlds187 did you just ans Ur own comment
@Erick_MC_Supernatural Жыл бұрын
@@thebestofallworlds187 what?
@thebestofallworlds187 Жыл бұрын
@@Erick_MC_Supernatural that the group is more important than the individual is broader that fascism, which is just an aspect of collectivism. Communism is much worse and puts a collective above individuals. both don't honestly consider individuals- but individuals who belong to a specific group. With communism, it pits one collective against the other- the bourgeoisie vs. the proletariat. With fascism, it pits the majority race against a minority race who has taking control of the majority race's country.
@tymeier75709 ай бұрын
@@thebestofallworlds187"Race! It is a feeling not a reality. Ninety-five percent at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today. National Pride has no need for the delirium of race." -Mussolini.
@therealbomb_com87744 жыл бұрын
This comment has been edited so you won't see how it got so many likes.
@mateo2554 жыл бұрын
No, it's mostly the Right who constantly misuse it. You can't both sides this shit.
@therealbomb_com87744 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@mateo2554 жыл бұрын
@Humanity Galatica Besides the Bernie or Busters and wokescolds who called Liberals fascists, the "Left" uses it correctly. That's why we've been historically good at pointing out fascists. Fascists have benefited from the ignorance of the rest of the Right, historically, who can't do a simple Google search.
@therealbomb_com87744 жыл бұрын
:)
@aurumsultan73194 жыл бұрын
@@mateo255 thing is trump isn't a dictator so you can't really call him a fascist
@emilyackland2911 Жыл бұрын
Would be facinated to hear more about what makes someone like Mr Beat comfortable saying that a dictionary definition is wrong. That's super interesting to me (this is well-meaning curiosity btw, this is not meant to be a passive aggressive criticism)
@trenhen4311 Жыл бұрын
For this case specifically the definition isn’t wrong but the definition is a black and white fallacy. To me facism was never about the way government was set up. It was just the ideology first. Then whatever government and economic system is convenient to best act out that ideology.
@danbance5799 Жыл бұрын
In this case, he's a historian, and from a historical perspective, he's right. When we get to dictionaries, there are two types: prescriptivist and descriptivist. The former declares what words should mean, while the latter tries to depict how words are actually used. The OED is a descriptivist dictionary, and that's certainly how a lot of people use the word fascist. But, I think Mr Beat has a more insightful definition. I don't think it's accurate to describe fascism as "right-wing." It tends to be "anti-libertarian." It's anti-free market, anti-individual, very Orwellian and nationalist. Strongly socialist, if you happen to be a member of the right group. If we're going to talk about what fascism meant in the early 20th century when the word first appeared, Mr Beat is correct. As for what the word means now, it is "anyone you don't like."
@duncanmacleod6274 Жыл бұрын
@@danbance5799 Where are you getting the idea that fascist movements are anti-individual rather than simply deeply identitarian and authoritarian? They're usually nationalist and bigoted, but not necessarily conformist. They care if you're White or Italian or German or American, or if you oppose or disrupt their movement. They do not, however, have any particular hallmarks of collectivist cultures; like those of some Asian or indigenous American societies. Collectivists compel responsibility to their community. Fascists compel loyalty toward their identity group, their political movement, and their state.
@Argonhubert Жыл бұрын
@@duncanmacleod6274 every fascist dictator desired collectivism in their writings. All you have to do is read Bonito Mussolini’s writings. When Portugal experimented with fascism there wasn’t much of a racial component at all. In addition that is incorrect to say that some of the ancient eastern cultures you are referring to didn’t also express similar traits ( ex. various military like traditions)
@Argonhubert Жыл бұрын
@@duncanmacleod6274Really it all comes down to what defines community? In Mussolini’s eyes the country was the community
@jacobcorbin13 жыл бұрын
As a political scientist at this point, I think his definition is wrong. Most political scholars agree that fascism is exclusively an authoritarian system of government. I can't think of any non-authoritarian fascist ideology or movement that would prove that wrong. Typically, when we do refer to it as an ideology, it is specifically to the corporatist policies that followed under Mussolini, though obviously there had been so-called proto-fascist writers in the 1800s He doesn't even site a source for that definition! That's the worst part of this video!
@ManiacMayhem72562 жыл бұрын
i got a good definition that best describes fascism. it's self made but you might like
@TheSm1thers2 жыл бұрын
True, there are people who claim to believe in libertarian fascism but I think that's an oxymoron much like libertarian socialism.
@MrOoYT2 жыл бұрын
Take a good look at Oswald Mosley. I’d he were to create a dictatorship, the entire empire would likely fall apart due to complications with parliament. So whilst it would most likely be anocratic it would not be autocratic.
@ingridlinbohm76822 жыл бұрын
Communism is also Authoritarian as ironically is Liberalism when threatened. The crucial difference between Communism and Fascism is the Economic structure. Communists believe in the state owning everything and running everything until theoretically the State "withers" away. Fascists believe that private ownership is fine so long as the State controls the company or person for the good of the State. Fascists are Corporatists other wise known as Guild Socialism. China under Moa was Communist but modern day China is in Fact Fascist despite the ruling party being called Communist. The World Economic Forum is also Fascist in its Economic structural aspirations. Fascism it a turn of abuse but many are Fascists without intending harm to any one. Britain under the Labour party from 1945 to 1950 was really a Fascist nation. Indeed the same could be said of Britain from 1939 to 1950 which is an interesting irony. Fascism as an ideology only came to an end in 1979 under Margaret Thatcher in Britain. Thanks to Globalisation Fascism is having a renaissance as the State increasingly controls and regulates Corporations and is influenced by them eg the World Economic Forum.
@joesoldchanneldeprecated59482 жыл бұрын
@@ManiacMayhem7256 What is it?
@EPluribusUnumYT6 жыл бұрын
YOU JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IT SO PEOPLE KNOW YOUR VIEWS, MR BEAT OR SHOULD I SAY MR BEATO MOUSSILINI!!!!
@iammrbeat6 жыл бұрын
Nah, fascism is not hip.
@rplpalacio19206 жыл бұрын
that was funny
@paisleepunk6 жыл бұрын
Lol that was funny BUT NOT TRUE!
@Nugcon6 жыл бұрын
Exposed
@utryping4 жыл бұрын
@zyzz i choose communism
@michaelpisciarino53486 жыл бұрын
0:15 Hard to define fascism. 2:18 What does it mean? 2:55 Simplified definition. “Well actually...” 3:28 Revised definition. 4:23 Thomas Carlyle, Giovanni Gentile, Social Darwinism 4:55 Fasci of Revolutionary Action, The People of Italy 5:30 Fascist Stance 5:44 Bundle of Sticks, 6:02 Like socialists: 8 hrs, minimum wage, progressive tax Like Authoritarians: Black Shirts, intimidation and street violence 6:39 Recap 7:02 Frustrating misconceptions and rhetorical manipulation. 7:54 Puppets! The Felt Show 9:36 End 9:50 Lol
@SaxonSpooner5 жыл бұрын
Yeah by the definitions given in this, the nazis were only partial facist (keeping in mind that the nazis had a group identity but also promoted and worshiped individual achievement/success.), while the soviet and chinese socalist were absolute facists demoting 99% of their people to cattle status, while the ruling oligarchy sat back and made money.
@kyonjannis5 жыл бұрын
Good recap. In fact I feel that trying to get a true, more “workable” definition of F. isn’t really going to happen if you try to simplify. Truth is, most of all other moronic abuses of the F word nicely shown in the first part are made possible exactly by simplifications. Silly and self convenient simplifications. Now, why beat the same path ?
@lucanuvolari37425 жыл бұрын
"Me ne frego" was form Gabriele D Annunzio and the Arditi...
@generalharness82665 жыл бұрын
@@kyonjannis I really still have no idea what a fascist is. Maybe its just a name people call each other now like bastard? Historical it was this thing that made them less, and as such by calling them a bastard made you better then them for no other reason then in your mind you where better. With so many different definitions of what a fascist is I really think its just in history they were evil (WW2 Germany & Italy) so by calling them fascist you are just calling them evil.
@deanhall92925 жыл бұрын
Priceless !! My mind kept doing the same back-flips.....well done itemizing , and timing the exact ridiculousness, of this Mr Beat. PITY his poor students.....dumbed down comes to mind. FASCISM~ if we are united like a bundle of sticks we will be strong, and all opposition will be ruled under our AXE...........(its Roman Empire origen)......Courts & Sherrifs, K,Colombus?
@jillpatton34322 жыл бұрын
My great grandmother who lived under Mussolini's reign said in Italy post war the saying went, "there are two types of fascist..the fascist and the anti-fascist.".
@jimflagg40097 ай бұрын
This is exactly the issue. It comes down to a Us vs Them attitude. Either you are one of us or you are one of them. There is no middle no understanding of other ideas. It is our way or you are one of them. Very closed minded. Sound familiar? We should study this so we don't repeat it.
@Unprotected12325 жыл бұрын
You just explained authoritarianism. You could easily apply your oversimplified definition to communism. You need more distinctive traits of fascism in your definition.
@Ugly_German_Truths4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, he focused too much on the "instruments" of enforcement, that say NOTHING about the ideology itself and were used by others too.
@codenameulp14954 жыл бұрын
It would’ve been more interesting if he gave Oswald Mosley some attention. He literally advocated for non-intervention and believed in the parliamentary system of the UK.
@KeeperOfKale2224 жыл бұрын
You mean, “You need more distinctive traits of fascism in your definition... to fit my world view.”
@ixibillixi14 жыл бұрын
KeeperOfKale no mate we are not socialists what just make shit up, needs to be facts
@BobPantsSpongeSquare974 жыл бұрын
No because communism by definition and in theory doesnt have to lead to authoritarianism
@loth40156 жыл бұрын
I really wish people would actually READ the fascist books. Primo de Rivera's "Codex Fascismo" lays it out pretty well for starters: - "Here is what is required by our total sense of the Patra and the state which is to serve it. That all the people of Spain, however diverse they may be, feel in harmony with an irrevocable unity of destiny. " He continues that the liberty of man is important. And every man should show respect for their countrymen and always do their best. They are allowed to do violence in self-defense, but never for no reason, etc. So, obviously, when leftists attack nationalists (which really isn't unheard of. You can still see it today, and back then communism international was even more hip than today) and they hit back it can be seen as "Fascists being violent for no reason", but really it's more complicated than just that. Of course there are aspects of fascism that I like. Often in fascist books there are things written down like: Be respectful to everyone; Be strong; Be loyal and so on. And those are requirements to become a fascist. Atleast that is what the books said. And yes, I do agree with those aspects. Does that mean I want to kill anyone or censor anyone? No, it doesn't.
@scythermantis6 жыл бұрын
Right-wing Italians and Spaniards nearly all respect Fascism. Us in the U. S. are too cowardly and afraid to take an objective look on things.
@johnathonmingle79376 жыл бұрын
Nice essay LOL
@he1ar16 жыл бұрын
@Electro_blob Hitler copied Mussolini. For example the Munich putsch. In public Mussolini associated himself with Hitler but not in private. There were some things about the Nazi party that he did not agree with, biggest disagreement was racism and Aryan supremacy. Hitler was more extreme than fascism. 'Manifesto of Race' came into being after Mussolini had entered an alliance with Hitler. Have to remember that there were Italian Jews who identified as fascist. There were some fascists who despised biological racism aka national socialism.
@The_Crimson_Fucker6 жыл бұрын
Being honest, taking Mussolini for his word is the intellectual equivalent of buying your own snake oil.
@scythermantis6 жыл бұрын
@@he1ar1 And in Japan, Ikki Kita had developed a Fascist Manifesto before either the Beer Hall Putsch OR the March on Rome! www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Japan/Kitta.htm
@simonsays64815 жыл бұрын
“The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few” - Spock the Fascist 😜
@ireneuszpyc66845 жыл бұрын
Brexit supporters like to remind everyone that in 2016 referendum they won by 1.9-percentage-points margin, therefore they should be in charge now (2019-2020), and everyone else is a traitor; they seem fascist to me
@francescoduggento69815 жыл бұрын
@@ireneuszpyc6684 They don't want to be in charge, they just want Brexit to actually happen.
@ireneuszpyc66845 жыл бұрын
@@francescoduggento6981 pretty soon it will be 4 years after the referendum, and they're against a new referendum, as if the 2016 one is supposed to be valid forever - this is undemocratic
@thetapheonix5 жыл бұрын
Ireneusz Pyc Brexit was never carried out in the 1st place. So much for voting having any impact at all. I guess if voting mattered we wouldnt be allowed to do it.
@icameherejusttocomment5504 жыл бұрын
That's more utilitarian than fascist, unless you're somehow implying that all utilitarianism is fascist, in which case... Nope. Just nope.
@mister_chispa Жыл бұрын
Even individualism is celebrated in fascism, as long as it conforms to the "right type of individualism". I would say that fascism is taking to the extreme the position of "my group is more important than other groups"
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Жыл бұрын
_"Even individualism is celebrated in fascism, as long as it conforms to the "right type of individualism"."_ Actually Fascism was rather anti-individualistic ideology. It was purely a collectivist ideology.
@mister_chispa Жыл бұрын
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. yeah, that's exactly what Mr. Beat says, but we agree to disagree.
@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae.11 ай бұрын
@@mister_chispa : What is there to disagree exactly?
@quatsar90926 жыл бұрын
Hey vsause mr beat here What is facism
@iammrbeat6 жыл бұрын
I should have done that. lol
@mcwaff86614 жыл бұрын
Facism? Do you mean fascism
@marlboroughdane50784 жыл бұрын
Or is it ?
@J3ssePinkman5 жыл бұрын
Drinking game: everytime you hear "ism" do a shot
@marlboroughdane50784 жыл бұрын
I'll Turn into alcoholism. Then deadism. Eventually buriedism.
@Deadralord7776 жыл бұрын
I always saw Fascism as a post democracy system. One leader, one goal, one nation, one people type thing. But that could make like every Monarch in history a fascist but hey? Why not. Thank you Mr Beat. I’m still slightly confused though. Also could you do a video on the politics of Australia? I think the world needs to know how Australia works and I think it would be interesting for international viewers!
@iammrbeat6 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of Patreon supporters from Australia, so heck yeah, I think that's a great idea. Still confused, though? Yes, fascism was definitely a reaction to democracy, but that's only when it was first clearly articulated. Monarchs throughout history have been fascist to certain degrees....of course. Just because Adam Smith hadn't yet defined capitalism doesn't mean it didn't exist before he did so.
@jefferyallen50306 жыл бұрын
Fascist typically rejected monarchs. Because it was counter meritocracy.
@SwfanredLotr6 жыл бұрын
@@jefferyallen5030 Yet Mussolini had no problem having the King around, since he let him form Goverment after the march on Rome.
@jefferyallen50306 жыл бұрын
@@SwfanredLotr yea a king that held no political power, zero military influence, and no legal authority. Many government transitioning out if monarchy. Have been known to keep a king for religious or political reasons. Without said king retaining any power whatsoever.
@GoobNoob6 жыл бұрын
Read the doctrine of fascism. It's only 13 small pages
@MrTabasham1990Ай бұрын
Anyone here after the 2024 election?
@dominickstephenson35423 жыл бұрын
There's a KZbinr by the name of "TIK" who goes into more detail about fascism. The one thing we tend to overlook is that Fascism grew out of opposition to Communism specifically. Definitely give that video a look.
@Sgt_ioiwsl3 жыл бұрын
When he said he teaches at the same school that Vsauce went to I immediately wanted to see a colab with Micheal
@koalasandwich5673 жыл бұрын
Mr.Beat : What is fascism? VSauce intro starts VSauce: Hey vsauce Michael here, I am your glorious leader please do not resist.
@Sgt_ioiwsl3 жыл бұрын
@@koalasandwich567 all hail Vsauce
@solberg70495 жыл бұрын
3:32 no, that's called collectivism.
@henriquepedrazzi90085 жыл бұрын
well, that's correct (me trying to make myself the smart guy), because nationalists and fascists have the group idea on mind not indiviualism
@solberg70495 жыл бұрын
@@henriquepedrazzi9008 But communists are also collectivist, does that mean commies are fashes? Nope
@henriquepedrazzi90085 жыл бұрын
@@solberg7049 and that doesn't mean that third position ideology are communists
@solberg70495 жыл бұрын
@@henriquepedrazzi9008 I never said they were, and I agree they are not
@solberg70495 жыл бұрын
@All American Chutzpah how does what work out?
@frankadeeko230010 ай бұрын
Great video Mr Beat. You broke the concept down to the simplest form. Thanks bro.
@etele81793 жыл бұрын
"The group is more important than the invidual" is not the decription of fascism, it's literally the description of Collectivism. Here's the real definition: "An ideology based on national unity, corporatism and communitarianism". This is the only way to describe fascism as it tends to be very diverse from nation to nation or even person to person. (Also if somebody would not know, corporatism is the idea of organizing the economy in autonomous groups, such as labour unions). Also, let us not mix communitarianism with communism or communalism.
@heisvi93173 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right.
@Tomicalify2 жыл бұрын
"The group is more important than the invidual" as a definition of fascism is PragerU level of bullshit. In the video, Mr Bear recaps the history of fascist origins and literally traces it to reactionary movements from about the time of the French Revolution, so the definition of Some More News as a "reaction" movement is not entirely wrong: fascist rejected liberalism, parliamentarism and democracy, and also socialism and communism
@etele81792 жыл бұрын
@@Tomicalify I disagree with thr idea that fascism is a reactionary idea, as originates from Italy, from the ideas of Giovanni Gentile and Benito Mussolini. Mussolini was a leftist, part of thr so called "syndicalist movement". Which following the Russian revolution was split between Communists, Social democrats and the national syndicalists, the later became the fascists. That's it. While nazism came from german "volkisch movement" which was a reactionary, traditionalist, far right movement. But fascism was not. Sure, they are synoymes today, but they were not back then.
@matthiuskoenig33782 жыл бұрын
1stly: 2 comments are invisible for me 2ndly: I would expand your definition to be; "an authoritarian ideleogy based on jingoism, national unity {nationalist collectivism}, national rebirth/revival, chauvinism, corperatism and communitarianism" As key features of fascist states has been authoritarianism and jingoism. Aswell as their chauvinistic attitudes to the nation/culture as they define it. And they often justify their actions on 'rebirth/revitalisation' rhetoric.
@etele81792 жыл бұрын
@@matthiuskoenig3378 well I would not say chauvinism. I mean, there have been quite a lot of fascist ideologies that promoted it, but there have been the Brazilian integralists and Spanish falangists who were not chauvinists. But to be fair, fascism such a big tent term that it's hard to explain. There are some forms of it that are crazy ideas, but some have ideas that we could learn from.
@timothybell56984 жыл бұрын
"I fuckin warned you bro, I told you." - George Orwell, Politics and the English Language
@pierredelectojr63405 жыл бұрын
Fashizum is sayin stuff I don’t like hearing. Hashtag resist
@ImNotJoshPotter5 жыл бұрын
Such bravery
@quinnluscinski18055 жыл бұрын
@@ImNotJoshPotter That's racist Josh, and we know who you are we doxxed you
@ImNotJoshPotter5 жыл бұрын
@@quinnluscinski1805 Can't you read? I'm clearly *not* Josh.
@quinnluscinski18055 жыл бұрын
@@ImNotJoshPotter Then who are you? Doxxed.
@nirad80265 жыл бұрын
@@ImNotJoshPotter L I T E R A L L Y R A C I S T
@CreeperG0d10 ай бұрын
I once got called a fascist for expressing my opinion on a youtube short.
@ilect16903 жыл бұрын
Mr. Beat left high school the same year Vsauce entered high school
@KhAnubis6 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail is 🔥
@HistoryNerd8086 жыл бұрын
Considering how many people use the term for anything even remotely nationalistic or right wing, even a right wing that is pretty liberal when using the world graph(along with communism for the left and yes, I'm talking about American politics), people seriously need to learn that there's a very specific definition for it. Sorry for the rant, it just gets frustrating when people who should know better are historically ignorant.
@HistoryNerd8086 жыл бұрын
William White Agree completely and it's like the boy who cried wolf. Calling everybody conservative fascist and everybody liberal communist desensitizes people to what those words actually mean.
@iammrbeat6 жыл бұрын
Rants are always appreciated. :D But yeah, I say we get people back on the write track. Words are weapons, and if people are going to use them, they ought to know the true definition when doing so. It's not too late to educate folks about the true definition of the word.
@PotatoSoup586 жыл бұрын
Blame the terrible american education system. Heck half the stuff i know i learned myself.
@thanksmaybe41036 жыл бұрын
I would definitely think Trump supporters are as close to neo fascist as you can
@korpifox54456 жыл бұрын
thanks maybe Same with antifa.
@maxxlawrence391010 ай бұрын
This comment section is a cesspool of either a) people who didnt watch the video or b) bots/trolls.
@noooonotko6bxl3 жыл бұрын
i love how in another multiverse mr beat teaching micheal stevens is somewhat close to reality
@MorphingReality2 жыл бұрын
Corporatization of the state and nostalgia for a perceived former glory, that's been the one line definition I've used.
@bernardoohigginsvevo2974 Жыл бұрын
Corporatism means that all corporations must fall in line with the national identity of a country, not that corporations control the government as some, usually leftists, interpret it as.
@MorphingReality Жыл бұрын
@@bernardoohigginsvevo2974 I'm using it to mean running the state like a corporation.
@nyeonii4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that was literally my high school lmao. And I also know Michael Stevens’ cousin. Small world
@iammrbeat4 жыл бұрын
What year did you graduate?
@simonalioto26473 жыл бұрын
@@iammrbeat he never responded 😖
@nightprowler63363 жыл бұрын
@@simonalioto2647 cuz he died from covid19
@simonalioto26473 жыл бұрын
@@nightprowler6336 I hope your joking :(
@Phil_3.0shorts3 жыл бұрын
@@nightprowler6336 maybe he never graduated
@Tresorthas Жыл бұрын
"The group is more important than the individual" is true for basically every political ideology except maybe libertarianism.
@DerpDerp3001 Жыл бұрын
It's the extreme end of colectivism.
@ReallyRealBenMills Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that authoritarian ideologies, in practice, use collectivist ideas to disguise the appropriation of wealth and power for the use of the supreme leader(s).
@raymondjensen4603 Жыл бұрын
It's not true for the American constitution..., which at its core are the rights that protect the individual from the collective.
@MsPoliteRants2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: it shares the same root word as fascia-which are the stringy fibers that basically wrap around the muscle tissue and hold them together.
@rippspeck2 жыл бұрын
Same goes for that f-slur for homosexual men.
@shigeru_7044 Жыл бұрын
True, but what’s your point?
@furcornmanwiththemasterpla8380 Жыл бұрын
@@shigeru_7044 No point, just a fun fact. Nothing has to have futher meaning :)
@theaverageitaliandon998 Жыл бұрын
It comes from a fascio which is an instrument Roman centurions used to carry around as a sort of baton to enforce the law and instilling discipline in the legionaries
@jongyon7192p Жыл бұрын
fashion (?)
@lindsaymanning7046 жыл бұрын
I think I understand fascism a lot better now. Fascism is a word I hear a lot and everyone seems to have a different definition for. I would like to see a video like this about socialism because that is another term I hear a lot but I am not exactly sure what it means since everyone seems to have a different definition for it. That and a lot of other words that relate to political ideologies.
@iammrbeat6 жыл бұрын
Well socialism began as an economic term. He basically means the redistribution of wealth in order to promote equality. Specifically, how we make stuff and trade stuff should be controlled by society as a whole rather than individuals.
@mikeoxsmal80226 жыл бұрын
Lindsay Manning Socialism is easy to define, its workers control of the means of production.
@PotatoSoup586 жыл бұрын
socialism brings equal amounts of poverty.
@MegaBanne6 жыл бұрын
Socialism did not begin as an economic term. It was called social + ism because of the earliest ideas of a perfect society where everyone works together for the best of everyone. Socialism is fundamentally defined by democratic values and equality. Then not equality in the sense that everyone is equal physically speaking. But that everyone is of equal value: We are all egocentric beings with no intrinsic value. How you form a society that tries to achieve socialism depends on who you ask. Personally I like to call my self a progressive utopian socialist. I have a concept of a perfect socialist utopia. Not as a realistic idea of how a society could be. But as a guideline to guide policy making for a better (not perfect) future.
@LowFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Lindsay Manning you can read Squire’s Trial. Its 54 pages or so long, and it should give you a better understanding of fascism. This video is a lot closer to what fascism actually is but its still far from the actual truth about fascism. Its was a very good effort but still lackluster in some parts.
@mrengulfeddirector6 жыл бұрын
Never would I ever think I'd see a video pointing out how Laura Ingraham, Natalie Wynn, Prager, and that disheveled guy who used to be on Cracked are all WRONG about the same thing. MAD respect, Mr. Beat! Keep those pop political pundits in line!
@NicolasJimenezBarea10 ай бұрын
According to my grandpa, who lived in Franco's spain, fascism would be "the group is more important than the individual, but my group (Country/Nation) is inherently superior than any other, and must therefore purge whoever is "polluting" the Nation's greatness (usually a made-up bogus group) to maintain a unified and ' naturally pure' model group". All this in a corporative economy in which the sate owns the means of priduction with hirearchal structures in which in order to ascend on your job and/or get a decent salary you need to ascend in the militsry (protectors of the Nation). It usually involves the revival of a "mythical" past and imperial ambitions (to restore the country's alleged greatness). The people are mobilized against bogus groups who are conspiring against the nation to 'make it fail'. Basically: Totalitarian Ultranationalism.
@piccikikku10155 жыл бұрын
8:23 Is that Oswald Mosley?
@mrwhirly03582 жыл бұрын
I still disagree with this definition too, that the group is more important than the individual. That’s collectivism (which people often mistake as being inherently left wing). I think the major component missing from that is the incision of an ethnic/racial group who is thought to comprise this collective, as set apart from the other ethnic groups. For the nazis, this was German. For American fascists, it’s all whites, as in white nationalism.
@phildiop82482 жыл бұрын
No, ethnicity and race isn't inherent to fascism. The difference between collectivism and fascism is that, the definition is right since fascism is a type of collectivism, but leaning right instead of being left wing. Fascism is collectivism with a heavily regulated private economy like corporatism. Most "American Fascists" are part of the missusing the word fascism. A person who's belief is solely about a superiority of race is just called a racist.
@dr__llama58752 жыл бұрын
@@phildiop8248 depends what kind of fascism classical (italian) wasn't really rooted in race and was rooted in making italy #1 however socialist fascism (Germany) was rooted in the same thing as italy but a different means of getting it such as making the jews a scapegoat so no one focused on how germany made themselves #1
@phildiop82482 жыл бұрын
@@dr__llama5875 yeah, Naziism is based on race or ethnic superiority. My point was that simply fascism is not inherently since it contains a vast array of ideologies. Any ideology that is corporatist and chauvinist can be called fascism.
@dr__llama58752 жыл бұрын
@@phildiop8248 by that definition USA could be fascist, but its to shitty to be fascist
@XenonDiosmitide2 жыл бұрын
I think people just want everything to be about race and gender. Most folks don't give a rip, but politically charged one's do. Moral of the story is don't get sucked into politics.
@KealohaHarrison3 жыл бұрын
0:56 Legit wasn’t expecting to see Cody’s Showdy on here, this is quite a shock to a fellow Cody who enjoys said Showdy.
@TheFamilyMan8627 ай бұрын
A Facist is someone who slightly disagrees with me
@siamiam6 жыл бұрын
that explanation at 1:42 O_O excellent video and nice collaboration with others involved, its always good to be able to see different views on many different subjects
@iammrbeat6 жыл бұрын
Well in her defense, she said "contemporary" fascists. Still, she was setting up a straw man, and using "fascism" as a word of weapon against a group she disagreed with. That said, the group she disagreed with sucks.
@MoonUnitLatina6 жыл бұрын
Yep, that one almost caused me physical pain.
@vladimirlenin89176 жыл бұрын
You took her out of context pretty hard. Sure it's a bad definition of fascism, but it wasn't in a video like yours called "what is fascism?", it was in a video about modern fascist movements in Europe and America, and as a description it's pretty accurate of their foundational ideas and core motivating beliefs, so I have no idea why you'd say it was a straw man at all. ContraPoints' rundown of 21st century alt-right and neo-Nazi beliefs didn't fit in with PragerU's revisionist (in the worst sense of the word) attempt to appopriate the slur of 'fascist' for the conservative right, at all, and it was just not correct to put her here. That said I don't see what was wrong with the guy saying it was a reaction to and rejection of Marxism and liberal democracy, involving collaboration with conservatives, since that has been the case historically whenever they have gained power, but whatever. Disappointing.
@anchus32863 жыл бұрын
I’m dead serious. With this guy and MrTerryHistory I’m learning more than at school
@CaleMcCollough3 жыл бұрын
You're learning a bunch of bullshit from this guy. The central tenant of fascists is that the State the ideal organization for realizing a society’s and an individual’s potential economically, socially, and even spiritually. That is a social ownership model, AKA socialism.
@darkranger1163 жыл бұрын
that oxford definition seems pretty on point and contextualized to human history.
@GatCat10 ай бұрын
There (fortunately) hasn’t been many fascist governments over a long period of time, therefore a strong definition is only representative of the few examples. Thus the definition is more specific to Italian or German fascism, compared to general fascism as there hasn’t been many.
@Nibstapha4 жыл бұрын
"not all authoritarians are fascist, but all fascists are authoritarian" anarcho-fascists: am I a joke to you?
I am sorry, but when you say that fascism is not necessarily based on nationalism that's a major flaw. Everyone knows that Fascisms itself is born in a precise, defined historical moment; the "vittoria mutilata" is the main idea behind fascism, the rationale that Italy as a major power was betrayed by its allies after the fight and sacrifices it made in WW1. Nationalism is fundamental in Fascism. Its different with patriotism is that patriotism does not deny diplomacy. Patriots say "our country is better than the others". Fascists say " Our country is the best". This poses the fascists in a positon of staunch conflict with the others, as their nationality is the good one and the only one. If you don't start from this, you can't explain the rest and also the major points of Mussolini's regime (Mare Nostrum, the Colonial Empire etc).
@gazinta5 жыл бұрын
What if other countries people say "America is the best." Does that make them fascist even if they are leftists?
@snipview83635 жыл бұрын
B.S. SOCIALISM IS FASCISM There isn’t any difference in totalitarian states. I don’t care what you call them, Nazi, Communist or Fascist - Harry S. Truman You want to know what fascism is like? It is like your New Deal! - Benito Mussolini Stalinism and fascism, in spite of a deep difference in social foundations, are symmetrical phenomena. In many of their features, they show a deadly similarity - Leon Trotsky Fascism began as a revision of Marxism by Marxists - David Ramsey Steele Fascism is a matter of taste - Vyacheslav Molotov The first Fascists were almost all Marxists-serious theorists who had long been identified with Italy’s intelligentsia of the Left - A. James Gregor It is well known that Sorellian Syndicalism, out of which the thought and the political method of Fascism emerged-conceived itself the genuine interpretation of Marxist communism - Giovanni Gentile Fascism had its origins in communism, and communism exhibited facets of fascism from its inception. Since the Soviet empire broke up, its logical course is toward fascism - Harry V. Willems
@CassidyCope4 жыл бұрын
How about we just avoid use of the word fascist? It appears to have little consistency in the way it was used historically, and we have many other helpful terms that can actually mean something. If you need to use labels, then use terms such as social democrat, neo-Nazi, liberal, etc. We have such an abundance of words that can better articulate what we mean, so I don't think many people would sorely miss a single term.
@krrrruptidsoless Жыл бұрын
I heard that one day in Italy there was a vote going on. And anybody raising their hand not where the vote was being done was arrested for trying to persuade the vote
@dodec84496 жыл бұрын
So if the company I work for organizes a team work excercise, they are actually fascists?
@rosolenn4 жыл бұрын
The Beat says that Fascism is the idea that “the Group is more important than the individual.” Diversity, immigration, individualism, and new ideas are threats to the Group. Limited choices and strict guidance are necessary to maintain the Group (nation, race, religion...) But there’s more that makes the concept more pertinent to this era when fascistic tendencies are arising in liberal-democratic countries and more people are easily giving in to the sway of the strong, effective leader, conformance to authority, and the diminishment of freedom. Fascist government allows businesses to operate in their normal capitalist/oligopolistic manner as long as they obey the will of the state. Mussolini said that “Corporatism” was another name for “Fascism.” This works since corporations are devoid of moral responsibilities other than making money for their executives, owners, and shareholders. Before and during WW2, Germany, Italy, and Japan were effective early on because the had a strong, conforming capitalist industrial base. Businesses such as BMW, IBM, Mitsubishi, Fiat were allowed to flourish as long as they met the demands of the State. Another example is the slide from Communism to Fascism as seen in Russia and China. There’s not a lot of difference between the two in practise. Both are top-down, strict conformist ideologies. Even Communism’s vaunted egalitarianism barely existed in practise. Communism’s downfall was its state-run, top-down economic system which was notoriously ineffective in providing goods and services. Thus, it’s no surprise that a failing Communist China slid over to Fascism by simply allowing competitive businesses and capitalism to thrive under the strict oversight of the State. But God help the Chinese (or foreign) businessman in China who oversteps the State’s limitations. There has been a tendency for the economic ruling class in liberal democracies to flirt with authoritarianism/fascism to fend off the socialists under the guise of liberal elite class. The German business class thought they could control Hitler and in the US lately, the business rulers supposed they could control the latest US President. Both lost. Even liberals have succumbed to the joys of the military-industrial complex. One thing they need is a manufactured or exaggerated enemy (Russia, China, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Iran, N Korea...). But it’s more overt as they marshal their conservative/libertarian think tanks, cable opinion news, intellectuals, and the unholy conservative coalitions of conservative religious, ideological, racist, and business factions whose only commonality is a hatred for liberal leadership. They want to do away with (deconstruct) the too controlling but snow-flake liberal state and replace it with an even more controlling robust, he-manny authoritarian state. Picture a bare chested Putin and Jong-un riding big white horses. What men they are, unlike an Obama or Trudeau.
@michelesantolini43424 жыл бұрын
You are mislead by the similarity between the Italian word corporazione and the English corporation that are not synonyms. A better trazlation of corporativismo would be "guildism"
@endlesssolitaire7313 жыл бұрын
The funny thing here is that Putin is just an elderly man who enjoys luxurious life while the country is ruled by his administration combined with several most powerful ministers. The strongman image is completely fake, Putin never acted as a strong leader in any way. And in the West this image is even more convincing, because Russian media is trying to sell this strongman image, which is also useful to create an impression of powerful enemy. In the time of crisis Putin just disappears from the newspapers and returns back when situation became better.
@SvenElven2 жыл бұрын
@@endlesssolitaire731 This post aged badly…
@ozwunder692 жыл бұрын
Mr Beat : fascism is the group is more important than the individual Hitler: am i nothing to you?
@1995marixsa Жыл бұрын
Well for Hitler it was like that, Hitler had a us vs them mentality. At that time Germany was facing a great a economic and political crisis; They lost a war againt the USA, the world blamed them and their allies for starting the war, their allies turnt against them, etc; this gave them an us vs the world mentality. Just like any place there's going to be many groups with different political views, ideologies, and attitudes towards their current circunstance; we are social creatures after-all, it was essential for our survival, but over time is just have become gossip, storytelling. information, history, tales, etc. Anyways Hitler in his crazy head along with the right-wing extremist( the German workers party which he later became the spoker of that party, than the leader....you know the rest) thought that this was the fault of the Jews, the left wing(their opposition) and any no-aryan race (this to me is funny neither him or his followers were Aryan; this word can also mean noble one so maybe thats why he used this word). He was also a military man who wanted and got total control of the country and their people, back to a fascist mentality us vs them "we're good & they're the cause of all evil" "they want to destroy us and we need to protect ourselves at all cause" " our race needs purification' what ever that means. in order for this to be exicuted they need a group, in this case Hitlers' political party, again back to his beginings he was a spokesperson for his party; spreading misinformation, propaganda, etc, picture North Korea and the KKK parades thats what Hitler, his party, and followers did, since who he was speaking to also believed what he thought they too misinformed others making it easier for him to take power. Defenitly the group is more important than the individual in both actions and attitudes, yes he did considered himself godlike and "perfect" but for him to become a dictator he needs his group of people/militia to rise to power; all dictators are fascist and need of a group of people that can protect them like the military for example.
@littlesquirrel98602 жыл бұрын
Dude, I love your humor and enlightenment. This is a really good video for me, as a computer scientist. Subscribed, Mr. Beat. Keep drumming, Mr. Beat!!