Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism Compared

Mr. Beat explains the difference between capitalism, socialism, and communism. Karl Marx was the one who first articulated it, but boy is he misunderstood by many today. #socialism #capitalism #communism
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So it appears a lot of people have strong opinions about these three words. But there’s confusion about what they mean. These three words have also been weaponized. People often use these three words to attack and marginalize others. People misuse these three words. They conflate them with other words. For example, often people seamlessly interchange communism and totalitarianism, or capitalism and fascism, as if they mean the exact same thing.
Alright, let’s look up the definition of capitalism and put that up on the screen.
Capitalism: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
Ok, so let’s break this down. First of all, it says “economic system,” meaning a way resources get around and trade stuff. By private or corporate ownership...ok let’s just say private ownership of capital goods. Ok, what are capital goods? Goods used to make other goods. Alright...let’s go on. By investments...so basically folks trying to get rich that are determined by private decision, prices, production and distribution of goods determined by competition in a free market….ok let’s simplify that. Folks trying to get rich by competing with each other. Everything else is implied, isn’t it? If you are competing in a free market, there is no government stopping you when trying to make money. You are making decisions on prices, production, and distribution in order to make a profit, and you are competing with others for customers. This is capitalism.
Socialism:
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory. (Ok well we don’t have to go over this definition, do we?)
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism,characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
So first, it’s a theory OR a system. Why is socialism considered a theory and capitalism not? Probably because it’s never been fully practiced. But it is another economic system. But instead of private or corporate ownership we are talking about the community as a whole as the owners. With capitalism, it’s about owning capital goods. But with socialism, it’s about owning the production, distribution, land, everything...and everyone owns that. The community as a whole makes economic decisions, not the individual. Based on that definition, have we ever had that? No, not really, not since farming became a thing at least.
Now, that third definition is the historical definition of socialism, and often leads to even more confusion about what socialism actually means. Marxist theory? Yeah, socialism, even though it had origins throughout human history, was first articulated by two dudes named Karl Marx and . Get it? MARXist because it was named after him? To this day, Engels is still mad it’s called Marxism and not Engelism, by the way. Anyway, the two criticized capitalism and said it would eventually be overthrown by a new economic system, aka socialism, and eventually communism. Socialism was just a transition from capitalism to communism. Marx and Engels said socialism would consist of everybody owning the means of production, and that the workers would control and manage it.

[@lowz1369]

“Lets look at the definition of capitalism and put it on the screen” *ad plays*

[@matteorotelli4693]

Ironic

[@Somajsibere]

Well that is the definition is it not?

[@kourtneywiththekurls814]

It was beautiful ☺️

[@constantine6490]

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[@ashleyd4563]

@@constantine6490 Solve capitalism with more capitalism!

[@harrison85]

So glad Beat didn’t go like “socialism is when Venezuela” or “capitalism is when profits”

[@Donkeydickdotgov]

@Miguel Pimentel bjebifewbewfbiubiucs you misspelled system

[@giovanninegrinramos4018]

* Misspells system * Jesus: Hold up

[@toadfrommarioparty]

@Miguel Pimentel bjebifewbewfbiubiucs you could say that about any language that is different to the one you originally learned

[@gamermapper]

Capitalism is when profits tho. "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners *for profit* "

[@bdbailey]

Socialism is when no food and capitalism is when iPhone

[@stacywilson957]

Is it bad that I’m becoming numb to headlines like this? This is all really important information to understand, but at this point I don’t have any room for the existential stress these headlines induce. I guess that’s not a bad thing haha. Thanks for sharing, It’s always good to stay informed but I think separating emotion from news like this is vital in economic times like these.

[@tomjason2495]

[@sheliaswelttk2535]

@@tomjason2495 That’s right! Downturns provide plenty of opportunities for regular people to build wealth from the scratch. However, you may need to get some professional advice from an Investment coach if you need an aggressive return...

[@williamskohler8337]

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[@gabriellewilson5625]

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[@davidnewbury1721]

@@gabriellewilson5625 I’ve actually been looking into advisors lately, The crazy part is that advisors are probably outperforming the market and raising good returns. I will give this a look up, lucky i stumbled on this thread..

[@thegamingfloofysnake2433]

Important to clarify that when Marx said "private property" he does not mean things like your car, house, or pillows, those would fall under "personal property". Private property are the things which generate capital, that would include basically anywhere you work. Restaurants, stores, and farms

[@katiejo3663]

that is a really important distinction, thank you for making it

[@dontbe3greedy608]

so what happens if i use my personal property to generate capital? like uber.... you gonna take my car away?

[@dontbe3greedy608]

also another question i have been having... if the goverment owns property and yes its the GOVERNMENT NOT "tHE PeOPlE" what will happen if someone wants to move to the beach, buy a house? well you cant have that cause noone owns property so how will that work

[@yf.f4919]

​@@dontbe3greedy608 Uber wouldn't exist as such. You would be working for the state (aka "for the people"). Abolishing doesn't mean "taking away from the people", you don't throw them into outer space.

[@yf.f4919]

​@@dontbe3greedy608 We can only speculate. The house you own falls into "personal property", the land you use, not so much. This video is all about definitions, you probably are thinking about Venezuela or the Soviet Union, and THAT is another story.

[@stalkerofthezone1698]

We can all agree, Mr. Beat is very hard to say without accidentally saying “Beast” in the end.

[@dochollywood4576]

Or "bate".

[@karl810]

Neither, its Missed a Beat

[@MrBreastGiveMeMoney]

Ehhh, not really

[@cones914]

I say Mr beet.

[@barnacles1352]

Because that his real name and he doesnt watch stupid youtubers

[@Fahrenheit4051]

"I'm Mr. Beat, and I'm going to say some dirty words." As if Misterbeating in front of the camera wasn't bad enough.

[@ryanmcsharry9405]

The wordplay is amazing.

[@LilWindex1378]

Take my like...And get out

[@WiloPolis03]

Unintentionally the 169th like

[@khameriengibson1975]

you little...

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

My eyes 😭

[@laman012]

Hey Mr. Beat, just a reminder: private property ≠ personal property. Private property is the means of production. Personal property is your toothbrush.

[@pug-lifeapocalypse2653]

Bro. You could've given some other examples 😅

[@dbl-j5185]

It’s crazy, most American citizens have access to the greatest nexus of information in the history of mankind right in their pockets, yet doing basic research is so rare. A simple google search and basic comprehension would’ve been enough to know all of this😂 thanks though, it’s always a great idea to spread information relating to language.

[@dankelly5150]

And the names of all of these systems are interchangeable with words like fascism because it suits the left’s arguments at the time and they hope you won’t notice or research things! 🙄🤷🏻‍♂️

[@DeathProfessor]

It's crazy most Europeans are exactly the same but love deluding themselves to feel superior despite often times being more brainwashed and ignorant.

[@dbl-j5185]

@@DeathProfessor wouldn't know. I'm American 😅

[@tiktokanonymous]

Why is this unique to Americans ? 😭

[@dbl-j5185]

@@tiktokanonymous I never said it was lol. I was responding to another person who assumed I wasn't American I made this statement.

[@rdes225]

everyone in the comments is unironically doing the “socialism is when the government does stuff” meme

[@prometheus5405]

Socialism: Enslavement of the workers by the state in the name of the working class. Ironic. Socialism is a political ideology. Being a socialist doesn't make you a good person. Being a capitalist doesn't make you a bad one.

[@STartist.]

@@prometheus5405 is this comment satire?

[@williamjewell6247]

@@STartist. no

[@barnacles1352]

@@prometheus5405 enslavement is literally rightwing. The idea of socialism is equality

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

you are unironically doing the "socialism isn't when the gov't does stuff" meme. gov't is socialist in nature.

[@salokin3087]

Wait is Mr beat using child workers to supply dictionaries? Well that explains a lot

[@iammrbeat]

lol well, capitalism, you know, am I right?

[@christianwurlitzer209]

oh, i just thought she was giving you head . . .

[@TheTriggeredDuckguitarist]

It’s one of his daughters most likely lol

[@RachaelMarieNewport]

You do realize status his daughter

[@bucket8967]

TheTriggeredDuck hol up

[@memyselfandeye76]

Before watching this video, I didn't understand why so much emotion was attached to concepts one would learn in an college-level economics class. Mr. Beat hit the nail on the head when he said people are confusing an economic system with a political system. I would get confused when people would call others communists or socialists. I would wonder how can someone be an economic system, but I get it after watching this video.

[@andrewm.8772]

Mr. Beat is giving a superficial understanding of what any of these things mean. Please go try to read or listen to any of what communists actually have to say. "Marx wouldn't support the... because he wanted a stateless society" is so Goddamn wrong and can only be said when you look at dictionaries written by people, who also don't understand the ideas to any depth.

[@crimson7925]

Thank you 10 fold Mr.Beat. I had always been confused with these political/economical terms. Everytime someone else would explain these terms, they'd use their own personal bias. I think this video has given me a clear idea of the economic systems. A country would suck if it is only one political/economical system, because the country limits it self from the benefits of all the other systems. I'm not even a college student and I think this video gives a better explanation than asking most college students and professors about these political/economical terms.

[@shahriyarhakhamanashiya4626]

Well since some of these terms come from marxist theory, they are in themselves, biased. The thing is they are used inside a coherent theory, which means that they make sense. That's why they can be used both by adherents and oponents of said theory to further the political debate, but that means that adherents have to not be ignorant and opponents need to neither be ignorant nor of bad faith.

[@MrHobbes08]

@@shahriyarhakhamanashiya4626 embrace the Polysemy, light up a fat blunt, and give a hearty guffaw at the pedantic semantics. It's too easy to obfuscate the shared terms with different definitions. The one thing the capitalism vs socialism debate proves is no one knows how to do a semantic.

[@LakevusParadice]

Benefits of the other systems? What benefits are there from the theft of other systems? Is freedom IE capitalism not a system you want FULLY and not just diluted? There are no “benefits” to be had from the other systems. There is no “benefit” from theft

[@literallya442ndclonetroope5]

@@LakevusParadicethere’s a reason why there are mixed economies.

[@LakevusParadice]

​@@literallya442ndclonetroope5 yeah the reason is because of mixed moralities. that of altruism and egoism. freedom and force. how can you have a fully free economy when everyone wrongly believes you have a duty to help your neighbor? a duty that is all too ready to be brought to life by political force IE welfare and regulations.

[@rumimollick6723]

I love how the guy on 10:41 is holding a sign saying "FACEBOOK IS SOCIALISM!!!", probably confusing socialism for a *SOCIAL NETWORK* .

[@redarmy1784]

that or he saw some dude promoting socialism and thought that was the principals of a social network

[@MCMAGIC.]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@jamestough8468]

Facebook is probably the most capitalist thing on this earth today

[@greninjamastergabe6452]

More likely, he is confusing socialism and totalitarianism, socialism and communism, and communism and totalitarianism simultaneously. Many people have compared big tech companies like Facebook, Google, and Amazon to Big Brother.

[@nevreiha]

"yeah all of those companies are socialist" 🤔🤔🤔

[@treyshaffer]

lol its ironic how even in a video taking a calm approach to discussing the topic and trying to address the strawmen people associated with these economic ideologies, the comment section is still filled with people who are triggered and using the same strawmen arguments the video argues against.

[@DarkestKnightshade]

I'm not seeing a whole lot of that in the comments. I haven't looked in the replies tho.

[@nickelcadmium1401]

Edward Kress looked at the replies. You will see a bunch

[@revolutionarybishop2352]

He doesnt even do his research well. He doesnt mention the core of communism, fyi surplus value theory nor did he see the collapse of pre socialist nations actually proved the concept of class strugle in communism.

[@markdutta4467]

@@revolutionarybishop2352 He is not arguing an opinion. He is letting the viewer make their opinion.

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

who cares if it's "calm"? tone policing is bullshit. and people being like "wrong, dumbass" is not what being triggered looks like. it kind of sounds like *you* are triggered by conversations. lol

[@Mediatech492]

I was recently accused of being a communist because I complained about high bank fees. 🙄

[@MsTMarie83]

I think this video needs to be played on foxnews 24/7 for a little while. I hear them call Biden a radical socialist communist & it's hard not to laugh in their face. I'm apparently a "radical liberal" bc I want equal voting access & healthcare for ALL americans. If caring about those topics makes me radical, I'll wear the label proudly 😆

[@microbolt9746]

It would make you a radical liberal, as the bar is quite low lol

[@joshuagharis9017]

Nothing wrong with socialism comrade! Bank fees are one: predatory two: subsidies for high end accounts

[@joshuagharis9017]

Personal property is NOT the same as the means of production, aka private property. Please clarify that in your video

[@joshuagharis9017]

You misconstrued socialism and communism

[@VanHalenIsolated]

I’m only at 4:01 but I keep saying the same thing: there’s a difference between an economic system (e.g Socialism, Capitalism) and a type of government system (e.g Totalitarianism, Democracy). “Sharing everything” doesn’t mean you share your personal property. What is produced, capital, is shared and distributed. Once distributed, it’s your’s.

[@samtdl8639]

One of my teachers kept saying that Communism was monarchy, and wouldn't even let me explain.... I was very mad

[@chimpanzee341]

Your probably weren’t listening

[@bingusgrangus1441]

@@chimpanzee341 you could tell me an actual chimp typed that response, I wouldn’t be surprised

[@artfromaishiki5104]

@@chimpanzee341 Papa Stalin would like to invite you for a quick trip to Gulag

[@currently_In_stealth_behind_u]

chad teacher vs virgin student

[@threathy]

Because your teacher is capitalist worshipper.😂

[@michcomics9068]

"Socialism is when the government does stuff. And it's more socialism the more stuff it does. And if it does a real lot of stuff, it's communism."

[@internetperson9813]

- Some guy who doesn't follow Marxist theory / confuses socialism and fascism

[@comeon1245]

Capitalism-Rich guy bad

[@CommunistCreeper]

quote from a marxist mocking capitalists

[@teohamacher2898]

@@internetperson9813 ironically enough, that quote is from a lecture by Richard Wolff, a marxist phd and professor. He was explaining what socialism is not, but still.

[@erica.7231]

No you can have socialist policies and not have socialism. The big line is the government nationalizing businesses.

[@raymond8040]

great explanation and breakdown.. I'm a PoliSci grad, and this is good to "refresh" what we learned and to clarify what is being stirred up and confused in the press these days.. thanks

[@EazymoneyBicch]

I found u from the channel "Mr. Terry History" and i gotta say i am loving ur videos. I love to learn and u teach it where everybody can understand it

[@TheScottforever]

Great stuff. But just to avoid the typical "I won't share my toothbrush" argument, maybe it would have been better to precise that private property and personal property are two different things in a socialist mindset

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

not really. personal property is private. private property can also mean property that several people own. so the distinction is only of number.

[@TheScottforever]

​@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Not in socialist theory. In fact the number of people involved does not matter. Personal property is the stuff that you won and use for your everyday life (like the cloths you wear, the food you eat, your toothbrush, the house you live in, etc..). It represents a lot of things but the main idea is that its possession is not lucrative. It can be between multiple people (an husband and a wife posess their home for example). Private property is the inverse. It's a property that you own and its possession generates lucrative gain (a enterprise via stocks, a rented house/appartment, the interest of a debt, etc...). It can also be between multiple people (two cofounders also coown their enterprise for example. You may not like those definitions but that's what they are in the context of socialist theory. Since the abolition of private property (and not personal property) is a central idea of socialism, it is important to make a clear difference between the two. Otherwise you might end up thinking that socialism wants to "steal your toothbrush" (which is both the stupidest and most famous critique of socialism at the same time ^^'). It is easy to get the two notions confused when nt explained beforehand. That's also why I thought it would have been useful to explain those before speaking of socialism

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

@@TheScottforever dude, you type WAY too much. so lets say the number doesn't matter. then *personal and private ARE THE SAME*. stop whipping up a bullshit argument for your fascism. i don't like or dislike definitions. they are what they are. you dont get to make them up. they're in the dictionary. socialism is public ownership and that is code for STATE ownership, you are just too dumb to get that. you think you can get stuff for nothing. not how it works. if you don't help build or maintain something, you don't own it, SORRY. lol.

[@WiloPolis03]

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 "Dude you type way too much" seems to be another way of saying "aaah you have actual rationalizing and I can't follow that up with the same level of nuance"

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

@@WiloPolis03 or you just can't make an elegant point because you're wrong. :) personal and private ownership are the same.

[@rygy82]

I also think it's important to define the distinction between PRIVATE property and PERSONAL property.

[@Iberian49]

"commies want to take your toothbrush!" No they just want to take employer's private property away because it's used by the workers not the employer and ultimately this creates situations where the workers are at the mercy of their employer and the few forms of fighting back are through trade unions.

[@LordDomielOfElysium]

Exactly

[@GO0dMusic]

Actually communist is coming for your toothbrush

[@LaMelon]

whats the difference? genuine question lol Edit: i know the answer now, you can stop replying now thanks lmao

[@Xtreem50]

@LaMelon private property is the things you need to do your job are owned by the company/your boss, like a factory and the parts of it that keep it going . Personal property is the things you own like a house or car.

[@Kobraa0001]

I think it would be important to discuss the difference between private and personal property also

[@nerdwisdomyo9563]

Every now and then i need to watch this video to restore my faith in humanity. if every debate had a section like this video where they just explain what stuff is before debating the world would be a better place

[@CommanderVideo4]

This is not mr beat channel it's OUR channel

[@iammrbeat]

Darn straight. Which is why I take so many darn video suggestions. Wait a second...does this mean you get ad revenue now?

[@SkeledroMan]

@@iammrbeat Yes, the ad revenue on this channel is the Peoples' ad revenue.

[@CommanderVideo4]

@@iammrbeat pay up

[@autumn4142]

@@iammrbeat Well, your mode of production is socialistic provided you haven't hired anyone else, if you have they're not listed in the description. You own the means of KZbin video production and as the sole worker you have democratic control over it (your 1 vote....with yourself... this sounds less silly when you have multiple people). In a market socialist system, this means you're entitled to the products of your own labour, meaning you don't owe these fools anything. ;D

[@Tethloach1]

Socialism the people want to get involved in economics and politics, Totalitarianism the elites exclude the people and take control of everything. Mob rule and State tyranny go hand and hand. In the Soviet union people were tortured and treated just as bad as you can imagine, extortion etc.

[@weefie1233]

This is one of the most unbiased accounts I've ever seen. Finally, somebody who separates political and economic systems.

[@XxPlayMakerxX131]

Weefie123 yes!

[@rayray-ln9gx]

You're as stupid as he is.

[@idid1609]

@@rayray-ln9gx go back to your shit tube,have them fill up your scull.

[@xenoblad]

Dude, just read what Marx wrote. Socialism IS NOT the government doing stuff. This video conflates socialism with government activity.

[@mr.mystery9338]

And where is fascism? This deserves an F

[@goatboytheimmortal8359]

I applaud you for not simply making a five and a half minute knee jerk reaction, but rather giving all sides a fair shake. Weather you're a Conrade or not we need more people like you.

[@an2x453]

I know this is old but as a leftist (Marxist more specifically) I loved the “late stage capitalism” joke by your brother lol. It’s funny bc that’s how a lot of people think about us and how we act. But a critique I do have is when you talk about communism you say there is no private property which is very true but you need to differentiate between private property and PERSONAL property. As a lot of folks get these confused and think that you will not be allowed to own anything in a communist/socialist society and that’s just not true. I could go more in depth and would love to but for now I’m just leaving this brief comment. I actually rlly like this video though you gave everything a fair shot! Love your work Mr. Beat keep it up man!

[@aaronsondag8347]

Can you do that yourself? I have asked several people to explain the difference and can’t.

[@an2x453]

@@aaronsondag8347 do what myself ? Differentiate between private and personal property? Of course I can man ! Private property is simply something that is generally owned by a single private individual or multiple private individuals. Think of any capital or in Marxist theory the means of production, think land, a warehouse/factory building and other types of these sort of places or things. While Personal property is like your favorite game console or a baseball bat, jewelry, clothing. These sorts of things. Not sure why other leftist people could never tell you this as all it takes is one google search but there you go!

[@hendonburgism]

Personal- your house Private- a state forest near your house that (due to political lobbying) was purchased by an equity firm, leveled, and made into a tourist town that goes on to suck up money from the local economy and go to a few "people of wealth" that live in another state.

[@MiloTheCrotonian]

"If humans were angels, there would be no need for government"- James Madison

[@MiloTheCrotonian]

@@jetstream6389 the communism you're talking about will never happen or be successful on a large scale. Humans will always try and gain power over the other. Its human nature. Also don't use the bible as evidence. Its not factual

[@MiloTheCrotonian]

@Rafael Dejesus and that's yet what happens in capitalism as well. Humans aren't perfect in any political or economic system.

[@glidemusic1023]

@@MiloTheCrotonian Yeah but in capitalism, there are benefits to improving others lives. Some greedy businessman might create a revolutionary product so he can get rich, but in the process, improve other people's lives with that product.

[@MiloTheCrotonian]

@@glidemusic1023 ik. I'm not denying anything good from either side

[@taxslave5906]

So people are so untrustworthy that they cannot run their own lives therefore we need the most untrustworthy people (government) to forcibly control everyone else?

[@PoolGyall5441]

The character the guy in the red shirt is acting out is literally if political Twitter was a person

[@internetperson9813]

Ho ho ho

[@k.mihalic8945]

Thanks for breaking down words we lay persons hear a lot but don’t exactly know what they truly mean. I appreciate your sharing these simplified and in a interesting way. Can’t wait to hear more froM your channel.

[@iammrbeat]

I appreciate the kind words!

[@lenglish1264]

Thanks Mr Beats for explaining and clarifying this topic.

[@mjwaldrep]

Someone once told me that Fascism and Communism were the same thing. I didn't correct her, because it would've probably started a pointless argument, but I discounted everything else she was saying. Thank you for making this video, Mr. Beat. It's information like this that is much needed in today's world.

[@thewhalebear7073]

She could have meant that totalitarian regimes reach a certain point where there is no practical difference, which is true, but I doubt that is what she actually meant. The Fascism = Communism talking point usually stems from politically ignorant folk that don't care for productive conversations.

[@mannyechaluce3814]

similar but not the same :D , heck even Capitalism has similarities to Fascism :D

[@baconterrorist945]

Doesn't matter, they're both incredibly authoritarian and thus not worth anyone's time,

[@dmitriymaltsev3085]

fascism is capitalism. Namely, fascism proposes the unification of capitalist monopolies and the state As well as the dictatorship of the ruling circles, the hierarchy of society, that is, low social mobility, as well as direct political terror against certain social groups (meaning the Jews)

[@dmitriymaltsev3085]

@@thewhalebear7073 who owns the means of production? Under socialism, public ownership of the means of production Under fascism, as under any other form of capitalism, private ownership of the means of production Also, fascism assumes monopoly and the absence of any trade unions. Roughly speaking, fascism is capitalism in its extreme stage

[@hadessss9723]

Why does this have so many dislikes. He just explained what these definitions mean, without going over how they are actually practiced.

[@thek2despot426]

Because how they are meant to be practiced is illustrated in the definitions. If this is meant to imply that he should have mentioned the NPC soundbite of how "socialism/communism never works in practice because authoritarianism!", so long as the workers don't own the means of production (which in undemocratic command economies, they absolutely do not), that settles that they aren't socialist or communist societies _in practice,_ and thus there can be no analysis of how they work in practice, aside from things like unions, syndicates, and worker cooperatives.

[@quality3603]

People get butthurt over everything nowadays. Can't express your opinion anymore.

[@quality3603]

@genericusername xx6 Both wings are trash. Both political parties are trash All political parties are ideologies are fucking stupid. Enough said.

[@totalhufflepuff203]

@genericusername xx6 lol the n word is not “made up”

[@totalhufflepuff203]

@genericusername xx6 you said that hate speech is something that is “made up”, implying that it’s not really hateful. However words like the n word were not made up to offend people, there is a history of racism and white supremacy behind it. You can’t claim that that word should be used as part of free speech because of the hate and racism it is loaded with.

[@lanthiandokenhennes1805]

You are the first and only creator whose channel I subscribed to after watching only one video. I'm literally at a loss for words.

[@katesithole8629]

Listening to your videos makes learning fun! 😂 Thank you.

[@no-if1ol]

"Often people interchange communism and totalitarianism." BE BLESSED BY THE GOOD LORD THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[@beck204]

Because communism can’t work without an authoritarian overseer.

[@no-if1ol]

@@beck204 much the opposite. Look at history

[@beck204]

@@no-if1ol Which history?

[@no-if1ol]

@@beck204 the history of attempted authoritarian communism.. whereas more liberterian kinds of communism where actually doing really well like yugoslavia for example

[@TheXyphr]

And "Capitalism with Facism"

[@michaelpisciarino5348]

0:26 Negative takes on Capitalism 1:33 Negative takes on Socialism 2:28 Venezuela 🇻🇪 2:34 Negative takes on Communism 3:24 Lots of Strong Opinions, Weaponization and Misuse of words 4:30 *To The Dictionary* 4:42 Capitalism 6:22 Socialism 8:17 Marxism 9:23 communism 10:18 Reviewing 10:58 Tainted, Magical Words 11:30 Economic Systems 1. Traditional 2. Command 3. Market 4. Mixed 12:36 Categories of Goods 0:16 Offended 6:07, 6:28, 8:58, 13:51

[@esotericsadgirl]

I see you on Ben Shapiro's episodes. Thank you so much!

[@Force1Com]

time wasted, pretty much the whole damn video

[@ohheylads]

*OFENDED EVERITIM*

[@TheWolfsnack]

@@Force1Com ...nothing quite like sticking with what works....fascism....at least to Americans

[@cdlampton5663]

No shit amerikkkans talk down about everyone but it is one serious hell hole

[@turningearth8123]

Nice video. Thanks for trying to clarify the definitions of these terms. All good EXCEPT the market economy is absolutely not bottom up. It's a top down mode of organisation, controlled by producers, not consumers. Marx called this the "hidden abode of production". The idea that we vote with our money is pure idealism. Prices are set privately, by powerful people, to serve their own interests. Inflation is directly tied to profits.

[@Fantastic_Mr_Fox]

Uh I'm sorry but just no. If company A sells banana for 1$ and company B sells Banana for 90 cents, people vote with their wallets when they buy from the company that provides the better alternative. Now don't get me wrong there can be issues, monopolies are a thing after all. I will also point out that you're likely talking about "capitalism" in which the regulatory bodies have been captured to serve private interests. Which is exactly why you don't give regulatory bodies too much power over the economy but I digress.

[@softwetbread248]

​@@Fantastic_Mr_Fox Capitalism by nature centralizes commodities. Capital is life, and capital attracts more capital. He who has more capital has the ultimate say in the prices, the state is secondary to capital even. That is the problem with capitalism, by all accounts, anything that existed and will exist under capitalism must be subservient to it. Monopolies are not a product of the state, they are independent factors

[@AlexRechevskiy]

What a terrific overview. Thank you.

[@danki2000daniel]

Every AMERICAN needs to watch this.

[@Masonpapa]

We would still have the best system capitalism

[@danki2000daniel]

@@Masonpapa the reason why they need to watch

[@velcranoxofficials9970]

Not really since he missed a lot of information when trying to present and explain to us the three definitions

[@danki2000daniel]

@@velcranoxofficials9970 disagree

[@Steve-zc9ht]

EXACTLY yes capitalism is not perfect but atleast ppl have freedom of choice and to think freely communism was tried never worked always failed and socialism is almost the same thing ppl come to america to escape communism again it's not perfect but it's the only one we have so far

[@ncrtrooper1782]

To clarify, "Private property" does not equate to "Personal Property". Private property is exclusively the means of production. There's a lot more science to it than "share stuff". Also, what Lenin did is normally known as Marxist Leninism; Mao is Marxist Leninist Maoism, not how China is now; Bernie Sanders/AOC are Social Democrats; and there's more branches.

[@DaDARKPass]

Ok, but any "personal property" could also be private property. Think about it, wouldn't it contradict in a socialist country for you to personally own something, and not communally own something?

[@ncrtrooper1782]

@@DaDARKPass Not true. Personal property is your belongings. (House, toothbrush, car, paper, etc.) Private property is one ownership of means to produce commodities and money (a factory, bakery, etc.) If you make, say, bread on your personal property and sell it, it is Technically communal since the only person in the commune (you) owns it and receives the wealth. If I pay you a wage to make bread for me, it's privatized and purely for my gain of profit.

[@DaDARKPass]

@@ncrtrooper1782 Does anyone use this definition?

[@ncrtrooper1782]

@@DaDARKPass educated people, yes. The average person, no. Which is why I think spreading the distinction is good.

[@DaDARKPass]

@@ncrtrooper1782 Educated people? When I looked this up, I found out that the only people who make this distinction are socialists. Nobody else does. That means you must be lying, because socialists are not educated.

[@Beaconwarriorsaint921]

The law of 3 was to have these offset and or counter each other. Alone can be perverted by greed but together makes for a great society 👏

[@3dEmil]

All of these 3 systems have the same goal - fairness as much as possible for all members of the society for the purpose of improving the life of all. While the difference between these systems is the degree of private vs public ownership the actual result for achieving the goal depends mostly how fairly the private and public ownership is managed and not the degree of private vs public ownership. In other words any country regardless of the system can succeed or fail depending how fairly it is managed.

[@schroederscurrentevents3844]

I will admit, he’s totally unbiased. Unfortunately, that’s rare these days, but still it makes me super happy to see it. Keep going Mr. Beat!

[@kaiolsen6491]

he tried at least

[@despa7726]

eh... he did say "socialism has failed every time it's been tried" and labels successful socialisg experiments as "totalitarian". he should've added that most socialists outside of the west don't think that and that it's mainly the right that says so.

[@S0M3THING]

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[@WolfieboyMachi]

@@despa7726 Totalitarianism is Totalitarianism. Regardless of what the people under it thinks of it.

[@despa7726]

@@WolfieboyMachi the USSR was democratic. it had voting. Stalin was elected. then, Khrushchev lied, and was elected after him. Stalin tried to resign 4 times, but the Supreme Soviet (highest electoral body) did not allow him to. the Cuban system is basically a copy of the Soviet system. here's a video on the Cuban democracy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJKwpJxjdpppmtU the USSR was more bureaucratic, due to the sheer size and underdevelopment of it. don't worry. you aren't the first to believe that socialist countries are all totalitarian.

[@JHohenhauser]

Capitalism: Minecraft (National) Socialism: Meinkraft Communism: OURcraft

[@joselima5842]

Capitalism wins. Meinkraft... LOL

[@nicolasboddy3440]

Nazi: Minekampf

[@my2cents49]

LOL

[@phuthuthusollymola8251]

hahaha you ducking legend haha

[@JoeyFiveandDimes]

Capitalism is legalistic slavery, but it is SOLD as 'business'. That's why ordinary ( ignorant ) people accept Capitalism as 'real' and 'fair' ; when it is nothing but wealth transfer from the many to the elite few …...most often wit the power and threat of a police-state to enforce it . Capitalism is a RACKET and a cancer ! NOT business and competition on a level playing field .Socialism has worked where it has been tried and implemented: Catalonia, pre-WW2 ...…. The Inca's of western South America for 500 years before the rape and conquest of European invaders .Socialism is NOT Communism and vice/versa .

[@robertdean5154]

Just found this creator. Wish I had earlier. Subbed. Loving the content so far.

[@AndyPhu]

I really enjoyed this video. It was refreshingly unbiased and educational.

[@unovasfinest2623]

Capitalism: These are MY chips Socialism: These are OUR chips Communism: These are MOM'S chips

[@unovasfinest2623]

Dim Didnt you watch the video? 👀

[@bubbabluehorn]

Oversimplified reference good sir?

[@unovasfinest2623]

Dim :/ gee anybody can say that... WHY does it suck? Cause Mr Beat didnt define things correctly?

[@unovasfinest2623]

Dim Nah. I just have problems when people talk trash without explanation. And tbh your comment lead me to believe that you were salty about the vid lmao

[@RCmack]

Sean Hannity educated sheepies think socialism and communism are exactly alike.

[@politicalgamer9936]

Finally a truly unbiased video explaining the definition of these words without over glorifying one while hating on others.

[@supasf]

Ever heard of Google? The dictionary? The library? Anything?

[@Force1Com]

Too young to know what a book is.

[@e.m3045]

Shi Nobi he said “video” he didn’t say there was no other sources with these elements

[@e.m3045]

Etern4l Saiy4n he said “video” he did not say there was not any other sources with these elements

[@supasf]

@@e.m3045 yet he makes it out to be that he could've never knew these "unbiased" definitions without this video. This guy is fucking stupid. And there is bias in this video, just saying.

[@dee7665]

We have to become a society thats not influenced by monetary systems

[@garyjohnstone6422]

b/s, money is simply a way of keeping score, use jelly beans if money offends you. Money is inert, neither good or bad.

[@Hertz72]

None of them are perfect, but I prefer the imperfections of capitalism a thousand times over the others.

[@jamesdragonforce]

You forgot to distinguish between “private property” and “personal property”.

[@no-if1ol]

Well said

[@eliasajuwa6462]

Private property is important I don’t care. And even Karl Marx said that socialism is the transitional state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism so I don’t want to hear anyone tell me that they want socialism

[@diogomanteu7148]

​@@eliasajuwa6462 what is your point? if karl marx wanted socialism as a transition it still means abolishing private property. like why did you add that part about marx?

[@teohamacher2898]

@@eliasajuwa6462 i want socialism. specifically, libertarian socialism or anarchism.

[@TheThundercow]

@@teohamacher2898 Anarchism is literally the exact same as communism, just without the socialist middle step.

[@yaiburanakul8505]

I assumed that socialism was just the stepping stone to communism

[@edpspoopsock5150]

“The goal of socialism is communism” - Vladimir Lenin

[@supervamp78]

that's what he said

[@dochollywood4576]

And you would be correct.

[@patrickwheeler6362]

In Marxist theory it is.

[@turtleextra4128]

Yet not all socialist believe that

[@Donkey114]

Great video, very in depth and not forcing an opinion upon the viewer, would recommend.

[@HonestOne]

Thanks, I needed to review this topic.

[@andrewlucid1479]

I love how he pointed out that most of the world has a combination of all 3. I try to tell people this all the time but many people think we live in pure capitalism.

[@maxvanbouwel2073]

I'm pretty sure he's reffering to economics such as command economies and market economies. Neither of these are capitalism.

[@anghuyphamnguyen3096]

Let's be honest, they are just the same thing, no matter what, there will always be labor and worker will be exploited most of the time Factory owner exploit workers in Capitalist Government erment exploit citizen in Communist

[@moist8875]

So every Communist regime failed , especially on the economy side, because it too extreme, also Capitalist country like USA have to learn from Soviet Union with some labor union, social program, economic policies to optimize the system. Balance is better than extreme

[@nikhilpranav6915]

If it isn't a combination, there is no villain. There is no one big bad to blame everything on. Not disclosing political beliefs here, but you can't have success without them. Capitalism is just amazing in production, but somebody needs to make sure they don't give the customer the best while giving someone else the worst.

[@JKribbit]

@@moist8875 there has never been a real Communist state. Like Mr. Beats said, real communism functions without a government. All the other past "communist" states were socialist authoritarian.

[@actuallyalias]

The "look at the definition of capitalism and put that up on the screen" line being followed immediately by an ad break was hysterical

[@mscottjohnson3424]

This video leaves out Marx's definition of Capitalism. Capitalism requires the valorization of capital through the exploitation of labor. This is how "money makes money". Wage labor is the primary example. In wage labor, the laborer isn't paid the full value their labor added to a good or service. A chunk of that value goes to the owner of the means of production. Capitalism requires a large pool of people who have no way to survive other than to sell their labor to a capital owner on the capital owner's terms. This "earns" the capital owner income without the need for them to do labor themselves. Profit, rent, and interest are all income generated by extracting labor value from workers. A true capitalist doesn't need to work at all, their capital "generates" income by extracting labor value from the working class. A key feature of this system is the conflict of interests between the working and owning classes. Workers want more pay for less work. Owners want more work for less pay. This contradiction is the foundation of the capitalist mode of production, and the underlying problem socialism seeks to address.

[@chinmonmon]

This video is over 4 years old and learned more with this video than the years at school learning this

[@Armera]

Yeah generally facts don’t decay with age

[@johnpaulsylvester3727]

“Sharing is caring.” -Joseph Stalin

[@nikolauz3162]

John Paul Sylvester So why did he not help his people

[@ITSMRFOXY]

@@nikolauz3162 w o o o s h

[@jamesgraham4242]

@@nikolauz3162 Because you were lied to.

[@hw7202]

@@nikolauz3162 he help his people with his great 5 year plan man.

[@crevhulk]

@@hw7202 The 5 year plan was created by Trotsky. Staline just stole it from him.

[@pattyayers]

Earlier in US history there were HUGE Socialist movements driven by working-class labor-union people. Socialism does not equal ‘scary thing which I like to talk about when I feel in over my head, like a little ignorant weenie”

[@ziwuri]

The red scare was maybe the worst thing to happen to the United States, ever. Multiple generations down the line, it still shapes their political landscape.

[@Chriscraft-ug3sz]

The syndicalist movement

[@grimnir8872]

And every single one of them was a corrupt ponzi scheme designed to empower the few controlling the many, every single time.

[@ziwuri]

@@grimnir8872 literally sounds like you're describing capitalism

[@ENoob]

Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security are some of the big results of those movements.

[@rmmmizan6817]

Mr. Beat, your 14 and a half minute video is very meaningful. I enjoyed it and hope you will do more such projects that make common people understand our socioeconomic system easily. May God help us all and wish you all the best.

[@stevemarie7]

communist ideas of "private property" is different to a common idea of it private property in communist theory relates to a singular person (or corporation) owning the means of production, also known as capital goods your toothbrush, for example, would be considered "personal property", not private property

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

@Alex Jon : So if I happened to have a 3 D prin ter to make my own toot hbrush es, would the co mmun ist thugs  come and seiz e my printer?

[@stevemarie7]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. well you wouldn't be profiting off of the labour of someone else making and selling it for you, so no, that is perfectly in line with personal property personal property=personal, everyday use private property=ownership of production as a means of profit hope this helps

[@CynicalHistorian]

This was thoroughly entertaining. Love the obnoxious-commenter lampshading One thing I have to point out though, Marx/Engels didn't create the term _socialism._ Saint-Simon coined it, but his definition was much more flexible. Marx derided him as a "utopian socialist," but it's important to acknowledge socialism's varied usage. Marx does not have a monopoly on its definition; something that was kinda the main point of contention in the First Internationale. Bakunin fiercely opposed Marx on that very issue. The dictionary definition somewhat excludes anarchists and utopians

[@iammrbeat]

Indeed....I'm pretty sure Marx went in much greater detail than Saint-Simon did, though. And one other random thought...if we can't rely on dictionaries for authoritative defintions, what CAN we rely on?

[@CynicalHistorian]

nothing can be defined. we're all doomed! 😱 I always rely on the etymology part (included in the OED at least) to give greater depth. Some words just fail to have good dictionary definitions. Think _truth, love, knowledge,_ or really anything with philosophical implications from its definition. Shoutout to The Endless Knot (Alliterative), who shows this conundrum pretty well!

[@autumn4142]

@@iammrbeat You can rely on actually reading the theory of the people who advocate the system, and then studying how it functions in practice. The unfortunate part about that is that people of opposing politics will often do the opposite for each. Capitalists will see invaded or state-capitalist socialist experiments and say that socialist theory doesn't matter because of that, Socialists like myself will say that Capitalist ideas mean nothing when it's irrelevant to system I live under. I'm at least self-aware lol I justify this by essentially saying: because I live under the system you're trying to say should function like x y and z, and it doesn't, a material (as opposed to theoretical) analysis of capitalism is more important in judging it against other systems. Though analysing historical attempts at socialism and figuring out where it fucked up is always a good plan if you intend to try it again like I do. For example, not being comrades with anyone who thinks that hard-labour camps are a good idea, or who thinks that state ownership of the means of production (as opposed to worker ownership) fulfils the definition for socialism (clue: it doesn't).

[@milascave2]

beat: They are not infallible, and he writes. Marx was not the first one to use the word socialism, that is just a historical fact.

[@limerickman8512]

History is often written by those in power over language through media, education of the social interactions, not just Political power downwards. Imagine if your enemies had to write your life history, and you wrote your own history and observers from you neighborhood wrote your history and multiple other observers from different backgrounds and cultures wrote your history and match them all together. You been surprised how different they are from the exact same events. You might think that only your version is true, but people often leave out crucial bits (such as context) often through self bias or self blindness of events. Imagine if someone from a thousand years from now reading them all. They have very little context to your culture, other than strangers version of the context of what they describe of what they are viewing and build up a layer of all the different versions of your life. Now imagine of they only read your enemy defining what you are and your version and all the others versions are burnt/destroyed during an ideological purge. Socialists have defined what Capitalism is, thus we are never truly taught in schools, because the vast majority of teachers and Journalists are socialists.

[@Holammer]

To confuse matters ever more, when I see a lot of Americans talking about the positive aspects of Socialism, they're actually talking about Social Democracy.

[@leontrotsky8676]

name a bad thing about socialism

[@leontrotsky8676]

@DugletAre you talking about communism? Because that isn't what communism is.

[@sonikku956]

I know, even people I like, such as Bernie Sanders and AOC, are actually social democrats who want a mixed system that combines socialism and capitalism, rather than just getting rid of capitalism all together, like *actual* democratic socialists.

[@leontrotsky8676]

@@sonikku956 actually AOC doesn't much care for capitalism. Also, Bernie is an independent and is part of the Socialist Party.

[@xenoblad]

That's because Americans, LIKE THE ONE IN THIS VIDEO, conflate socialism with government activity. There's no mention of workers owning the means of production or workplace democracy.

[@anonymoususer4108]

Thank you for making this video! I'm leaning towards socialism but I recently got interested in why people believe capitalism is better. Eventually I got sick of this debate and I wanted to look up a video where the differences are clearly explained. It helped me a lot to understand more about this and why people hate other economic systems without the video being biased.

[@anonymoususer4108]

I still feel awful from seeing a video that looked like a capitalism-socialism comparison but it actually was explaining why capitalism is better. I feel so bad for the people who aren't open to different opinions, partly because of youtube algorithms.

[@omaracevedo4784]

Big fan thank you for your well made sure. Can you discuss on a future episode democratic socialism this is a term use a lot nowadays in describing places like Norway, Denmark and such.

[@tommasofogli8845]

Venezuela is a meme

[@vfsdm]

Nation goals

[@bobbyferg9173]

*The entire population of Venezuela is now playing Don’t Starve Together*

[@benoakland8805]

Venezuela show how the rhetoric of socialism leads to a power grab and eventually the theft of public goods

[@iammrbeat]

But but but but but but *Venezuela*

[@vfsdm]

U Haul, other country,....(.__.)

[@Casperkuus1234]

Overall this is pretty good, although as a Socialist myself, i do have a few criticisms. Feel free to point any criticism towards me as well, i am always open to discussion :) Communism as in the definition provided by the dictionary, has never been tried. As those states who supposedly practised it and failed, fail to even reach the qualification of being socialist. Because as you mention socialism has not really been much of a thing since primitive communes, therefore it can hardly be argued that they ever attempted to get even close to socialism, let alone communism. Even further credence to this fact, is the fact they were even authoritarian in the first place, as communism is in it's nature an anti-authoritarian ideology, as evidenced by the introduction on Wikipedia: "Communism is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socio-economic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money and the state." Heck as you say, Marx(and Engels) would not have liked the Soviet system, as evidenced by this sarcastic quote: “What a beautiful model of barracks communism! Here you have it all: communal eating, communal sleeping, assessors and offices regulating education, production, consumption, in a word, all social activity, and to crown all, Our Committee, anonymous and unknown to anyone, as the supreme dictator. This indeed is the purest anti-authoritarianism…” As for socialism being the government just intervening more, i refer you to this quote: “State ownership and control is not necessarily socialism. If it were then the army, the police, the judges, and the jailers would all be socialist functionaries... The ownership by the state of all the land and materials of labor combined with the cooperative control by the workers of such land and materials, would be socialism.” -- James Connolly i.e one of the key aspects missing from this video, is workers control of the means of production, hence the emphasis on the the community as a whole. Have a nice day Mr. Beat, and to anyone else who decided to read this.

[@iammrbeat]

I think I will pin this. Fair critique. One thing I could have also added was explaining the difference between personal property and private property according to Marxism, as another Patreon supporter pointed out. Oh well. I figured I'd leave stuff out accidentally. This is just a nuts and bolts lesson anyway with the other purpose being to address how the three words are misused and weaponized. Thanks for the great feedback!

[@maynardyorke]

wouldnt the term 'public good' that Mr Beat addressed with given examples air and national defence also cover the examples James Connolly gives- as in army, police, jailers- so- they wouldnt be socialists because they're covered under the umbrella of public good. so not socialist

[@CatNibbles]

@@franjokristof4007 Listen to the video and you'll see that no country has ever tried a Socialist system of economics.

[@CatNibbles]

@E Pluribus I mean, that's a pretty blanket statement to make when countries might have legitimate issues with those countries like you know, the US invading countries that didn't attack them. Does that not have a negative effect on the country being invaded? Do they not have a legitimate issue with the US? A lot of the problems other people within these countries have is that they are taken advantage of by wealthier countries so that they can sustain their standards of living, and to be honest, they usually have a point. Whether or not you see an issue with that is irrelevant, you could say that's completely fair, but that doesn't change the fact that modern western countries (especially the US) tend to intervene in other countries affairs (like overthrowing democratically elected officials and instating dictatorships) for their own personal gains.

[@spearshaker7974]

If we could just use alittle bit of each system it would prob be best.

[@williethomas5116]

Wow thank you for using the dictionary. You are spot on in this video Everyone has a mixed economy. It's just what your society thinks is best for each policy for each situation.

[@franciscocorreaperes1260]

Great video for clarifying what is what!

[@excelisfun]

You make great videos, Mr. Beat!!! My kid and I just watched this video and learned cool stuff : )

[@iammrbeat]

Yay! How old is he/she?

[@excelisfun]

@@iammrbeat He is 12. He thinks your videos are cool : )

[@iammrbeat]

That's awesome

[@tranquility6789]

@@iammrbeat me too I’ve been watching your content since I was 13 im 14 now

[@armstrongcanon7833]

@@tranquility6789 thats just one year lmao.

[@markbryant3822]

I love how your videos are just straight facts while also being entertaining, love this video!

[@thegreat6456]

yet people still find something to be mad about

[@eyallevin6302]

@@thegreat6456 exactly

[@dudebro3250]

I love that he pushes Europa the last battle. That's the greatest documentary ever made.

[@freedomwillring6749]

Thanks for the definitions. All school age children should watch this.

[@capybarafilmstudios1620]

>click on the video >look away for a second *>MR. BEASSTTTTTTT*

[@MCMAGIC.]

Thank You Mr. Beat 🙏🏽

[@grugamersriseup7299]

Dude I got some bad news I think your channel is dead 🤨

[@zaius68]

How dare you be reasonable in this time and age. D:

[@noooreally]

@@ChosenSquirrel Yeah I agree with you to some extent, you seem to be rephrasing John Stewart Mill's harm principal. Which basically states that people should be free to do as they like as long as what they do, does not harm others. Only in those instances, should the government get involved. Which is a nice view of freedom, because it does permit people to be free from the social constraints on things such as free speech, travel, etc... however what it does not address are some of the natural constraints on freedom. So such a view is just incomplete. If you don't have food or gas in your car, the freedom to travel doesn't mean much, and people in general are more likely to follow a ham sandwich than any moral code if they're in such a situation. There is a really good video that goes more in depth on this topic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIm9mYCYp5mko7M As for collectivism vs individualism this is a false duality, because what can be good for me is often times what's good for the many, and often in our current system what we find ourselves chasing is not the true will of our ego, but either a constructed desire, or one born of envy, and resentment etc... think of it like this, If you are in a marriage and you find yourself wanting an affair, so you have one and then leave your wife, often you realize that you didn't want the affair at all, it was only within the frame of the marriage that made such an affair desirable. here is a good article that goes into this a bit more www.lacan.com/zizfrance1.htm But yeah I agree with you when it comes to white nationalists, and i'd go further and say that they have often a misplaced resentment, and if they dug a bit into their ideology, they'd see how evident it was.

[@noooreally]

@@ChosenSquirrel Yes locke is good, mill and smith are all good, and I am a fan of theirs' too, but within the context of their society. See there's was one that was transitioning from feudalism to capitalism. And within feudalism there were many unjustified social constraints on peoples rights like the right to say what you want or have land of your own, was constrained by kings. So it was vital for locke's view of freedom to be one that would break down such social constraints on freedom. But their analysis breaks down to an extent, in the capitalist society we live in. If you have pneumonia you have no social constraints to getting treatment, but if you don't have money to get the treatment well then you die. So yeah you can't go practice your free speech when dead. So people like locke and mill overlooked this aspect of freedom also known as positive freedom. And different societies need to overcome the challenges to their freedom as they arise. In ayn rand's world you are equally free in her utopia or if you are naked and alone in the jungle. Clearly there is a difference between the 2 states of being. If you want to practice any freedoms well you don't have any social constraints in the way, but you better get over that natural constraint, say the bear coming to eat you or starvation etc. We came together to form societies in the first place, to get over such natural constraints. We even gave in to some social constraints in doing so. The true utopia should be one that eliminates natural and social constraints. However our current system has difficulty when dealing with the natural constraints. I was a libertarian at one time and thought like you, but then I started to read marx, and realized his ideology is not of resentment, he was a student of hegel so he'd understand such concepts easily. In fact he sees the capitalist class as servants themselves (servants to M->C->M') not as evil people. when you read marx or hegel you'll allow your consciousness to transcend history to some extent.

[@ivanj.conway9919]

@@ChosenSquirrel : Then you're a fucking, sell out Canadian. When the hell, are we going to start getting some proper, pride about ourselves, and stop thinking we are lesser than the U.S. in any way, shape or form. I'll disagree with you by saying CANADA, is actually, the best country in the world, or certainly, ONE, of the damn, best for sure. Out.

[@charleshabsburgiiofspain8580]

"In vuvuzuala 1 morbillion die and there is no iPhone" - Ayn rand probably

[@njengajoe]

Probably your most important video for the modern age 2000 - 2030

[@RMPalm2000]

One of the issues I've had with the whole "communism doesn't work" or "socialism doesn't work" is that we often point to specific examples without applying the same level of analysis to capitalism. There are many instances, especially in the developing world, where capitalism has not worked out well. I think it would be better to say that aspects of both economic systems work and do so for different groups of people, and both systems don't work for others. A black and white view of things oversimplifies what is otherwise quite complex.

[@johnnynick3621]

You are mistaken, Ryan - Everywhere that Capitalism has been permitted, and to the extent that it has been permitted, that society has flourished economically. EVERY example of direct comparison holds to that fact. Look at North vs South Korea. Look at Venezuela before and after Socializing their economy. Look at China. In Communist China, millions of people were living at subsistence levels. The PRC knew that a revolution was inevitable, so they instituted limited private property rights. The affects were immediate. They have continued to expand on those limited property rights, and their prosperity has dramatically expanded. In every case where Capitalism has been permitted to exist, the result has been prosperity. That does not mean that we have true Capitalism here or anywhere else on Earth. What we have today in most countries is a mixed economy. But a nations prosperity is in direct proportion to the economic freedom they permit.

[@debordeleur2005]

the difference being capitalism fails pretty mildly, while communism ends in authoritarian governments and millions of deaths.

[@johnnynick6179]

@@debordeleur2005 Capitalism NEVER fails to achieve prosperity. NEVER! The people who complain about capitalism argue that it results in greater inequality... NOT in greater poverty. Nobody can make the argument that capitalism has EVER resulted in greater poverty. The argument against inequality is ALL THEY HAVE! In free market countries, even the poorest people live much better than the middle class in socialist societies.

[@panzerkamphwaggenlll5247]

@@debordeleur2005 you're missing the point, the comment was saying that aspects of both works in different places

[@james192599]

@Johnny Nick china is still a great example of socialism. The majority of its resources are still put in state-owned companies that direct its large infrastructure programs which is a large reason why capital investment from abroad come to China reduced costs. also its important to note that when the government spends money this means the private sector is net saving money. A developing country needs high levels of capital investment. This is exactly how the USSR grew so fast during stalins administration. Even the south Korean government have used a high level of government intervention to channel international investments.

[@rajikage3098]

"Communism enslaved nations" Enter african colonialism*

[@jacksonharrison6871]

Colonialism ≠ Capitalism.

[@rajikage3098]

@@jacksonharrison6871 Communism is Colonialism? Please make sure to think in neutrality before spouting nonsense

[@jacksonharrison6871]

@@rajikage3098 Wh... what??? All I said was colonialism does not equal capitalism. I never said colonialism is communism (?)

[@meepcity48]

Enter capitalist nations into poor countries profiting off of slave labor for the mass production of cheap goods

[@rajikage3098]

@@meepcity48 lmao let him keep acting like he don't know what we talking about

[@Islamophobiaisalie]

Love the sarcasm and dry humour. Also very informative. First time I didn’t fall asleep listening to someone talk about money! 😂

[@Ursi_]

Thank you for making this video! I'm admittedly quite left-leaning so this is very helpful for remaining unbiased while doing research for my history classes c:

[@purinat_sun]

Here are my definitions: 1. Capitalism - an economic system characterized by the private control of the means of production, distribution, and exchange for profit. 2. Socialism - an economic system characterized by the collective ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange in which everyone works according to his ability and receives according to his needs. 3. Socialism (in Marxist theory) - a stage between capitalism and Communism in which the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned by the state in which the working class has an absolute power and forces everyone to work according to his ability and distributes resources to everyone according to his needs. 4. Communism - same as number 2. 5. Communism (in Marxist theory) - a stateless, classless, and moneyless society that follows socialism (number 3). 6. Economic authoritarianism - an economic system in which individuals have little to no economic freedom. 7. Economic liberalism - an economic system in which individuals have full economic freedom. When one and six are combined, you have crony capitalism, state capitalism, feudalism, or mercantilism. When one and seven are combined, you have free-market or laissez-faire capitalism. When two (or four) and six are combined, you have authoritarian socialism (or communism). When two (or four) and seven are combined, you have voluntary socialism (or communism). And all of these can mix.

[@pavelm.gonzalez8608]

I have better definitions for this: 1) Classical Liberalism / Laissez Faire Capitalism (or Simply Capitalism): Economic System where the means of production are controlled, managed and selled/buyed by private desicions where the state still exits, having a minimum or "zero" rolle on the economy and only interfers when there someone/somebody attents againts life, liberty, private ownership or any other cryme / illegal activity established on the Constitution!!! 2) (Utopic/Original) Socialism: Economyc (and theoric) system proposed by Utopic/Original Socialists: Henry de Saint Simon, Robert Owen and Charles Fourier, etc; who propose (an) alternative(s to capitalism / liberal economy, where the workers (the people) share equal rights and opportunities but also equal control and distribution of the means of production and distribution of wealth. 3) Marxist(or Cientific) Socialism (aka "Communism"): Economic Theory Proposed by Karl Marx and Friederich Engels where the workers have total/colective control of the means of production and where private ownership of these are gone; they defended this system by making a revolution first and installing the Proletarian Dictatorship who really represents the workers and gives equal / faire rights / oppportunities to the people... only when the private ownership, the economic/social class and the money dissapear and the state then you have: "COMMUNISM". 😵🙃🤣 4) Fascism/NationalSocialism/Corporativism: System of goverment (but also an economic one) that rejects Liberal democracy but also rejects Communism / Marxism (making the called: THIRD POSITION!!!), this system advocates for a mixed economy where the Goverment interfere on the economy having a big role by nationalising some aspects but still allowing private ownership, all of this by picking up the traditional/conservative values: like Nationalism and Social Conservatism; all the members of the state (no matter the economic/social class/race) will have to subordinate to the Interests of the Nation and its vision of the future based on the past (and the weakers or the ones who oppose the state are the enemy of the state and will be directly/undirectly prosecuted). 5) Socialdemocracy / Democratic Socialism: Economic and Political System that advocates for a mixed/keynesian economy where the goverment has a moderated/big role on the economy by allowing a regulated market economy but also nationalising/socialising some aspects and giving a welfare state for all; some aspects of the socialdemocracy are these: Free Healthcare, Free Education, Pensions, Minimun Wages, Syndicates, etc (all of the money is collected from the taxes from the richer to the poors...obviously). 6) Socialiberalism: Economic and Political System (proposed by liberal philosopher: John Stuart Mill) that Separates from Classical Liberalism and advocates for welfare state for the people (especially the poor) but making a much focus on the liberal economy (in comparison to Socialdemocracy). 7) Anarquism: (Amount of) Economic/Social System/Theories proposed by original Anarquists like Joseph Proudhon or Mijail Bakunnin who reject capitalism an liberal economy (except the anarcoindividualists or Anarcocapitalists) but also rejects state-socialism/communism, fascism, or any form totalitarian system of goverment giving the complete libery for individuals but also advocating for a social organization where the workers voluntary share, control the meanings of production and distribution of wealth (without any oligarch force) 8) Libertarianism (or "Neoliberalism" by the left): Economic and Political system that continues the work of "classical liberals" but giving a radical/bigger focus on the individual than the collective and rejecting almost any goverment interference and protectionism on the economy (only when they needed!!! xd), defending the minarquist ideology, where the goverment is only composed by judeges, police, army and constitunional power (the other public servises like healthcare, firefighters and street constructers work in private)... the most radical version called: Anarcocapitalist advocate for the eventual disolution of the state. At the end of the day all of these bullshit economic/political systems are just economic utopias that will have never work perfectly for all (only for some)!!! 🙄

[@purinat_sun]

@@unusualbug1113 Marx and Engels used the terms socialism and communism interchangeably back in their time. If we stick to the original Marxist definition, you’re right. The definitions that I used are of the revisionists.

[@khameriengibson1975]

lovely definitions. will be using thesse

[@khameriengibson1975]

@@pavelm.gonzalez8608 i'd have to say that you should probably set apart social democracy and emocratic socialism

[@cuddlemuffin.9545]

Socialism and communism is when a braindead chimp writes something and think it will work

[@royally-legal]

Your brother and your banter is absolutely hilarious. As an only child, it's weird to see how siblings interact

[@ryg3693]

I once broke my brother’s arm and he wasn’t even mad at me

[@Waiting664]

Medal system with democracy

[@RapinatorOhYeah]

"That's communism with a lower case C" I can't 💀

[@gabrielhuajardo7520]

Mr beat give me money

[@faithfulpatriot5590]

This video defines *socialism* as _"...the vesting of ownership and control...in the community as a whole."_ In larger populations that _community_ *is* _the government._ That's why economic and governing systems become intertwined.

[@kofola9145]

Yeah, the popular Socialist trick. If it belongs to the people, why do you need government?

[@Quinntus79]

kof ola I thought the people were the government, and that government was for the people.

[@geoffmiller3468]

ya well I like chicken and chicken can't be found in commie land only rotten feet and salted dirt balls.

[@faithfulpatriot5590]

@Dim You forgot to mention that socialism / communism only works (for a while) at the point of a gun. Who in their right mind would work all day, say gardening, turn over all their harvest to get back some of it, as decided by some government official? Yes, the gardener would, from time to time, receive a pair of boots and a suit of clothes. If the gardener perceives that the value of what he's received is less than what has been taken, how is the redress done to the gardener's satisfaction (as in free market)? And, as in all human nature, the government official always takes more for himself and that is not up for discussion by the gardener or anyone else. (Fidel Castro with his $900 million estate, Maduro's daughter with $4 billion in assets)

[@TheConstitutionFirst]

This video is a X and Z Gen pre-summary on historical socialism: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5_OfnRmoZx0nJo At the end of this statement I supply methods that may approach a form of the Marx dream and some may find promising. The problem is that Marx was the seed for all the political groups that used Socialism or Workers party or peoples party in their names. They all descended into the most vial forms of suffering hell and mass death ever know in recent history. Marx made the word” Capitalism” famous to replace the term” Free Market Systems. Marx did not simply dismiss capitalism. He was impressed by it. He argued that it has been the most productive system that the world has seen. Quote: “The bourgeoisie, during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together. Subjection of Nature’s forces to man, machinery, application of chemistry to industry and agriculture, steam-navigation, railways, electric telegraphs, clearing of whole continents for cultivation, canalization of rivers, whole populations conjured out of the ground - what earlier century had even a presentiment that such productive forces slumbered in the lap of social labor. “ jacobinmag.com/2019/01/karl-marx-engels-capitalism-political-economy Marx’s dream: His philosophy of history was called "historical materialism" in which his goal was to bring about the end of history, by means of an eventual perfect, classless, utopian society in which people’s needs would be generated by this new system and leading to a life filled with free time, pursuits of leisure activities. Yes, a grand utopia. Sounds like a particularly great product line and sales pitch! The problem is humans need positive motivation and competent systems to generate even the minimal percentage of "real materialism" required for this utopia. The “Free market system” is indisputably the best method for improving the human condition. Imperfect as it seems. Many of the problems of free market fluctuations are created by the injection of forced utopian laws and socialist controlled doctrine and an educational system based on envy. The socialistic education system effectively trains people in class warfare violence, empty pseudo-sciences, and hatred towards success. Young people are left with an empty soulless purpose in life. Many are left vulnerable and ignorant. Subjected to the soulless snake oil man. They fill their life with empty materialism, filled with vacuous social media and instantaneous short-term gratifications. The creep of leftist wealth redistribution only fuels this inability to function in a Free Market System. What is not taught is common sense, the skills and training on how to work with and inspect and gain contentment from what Marx described as the best and most productive system that the world has seen. My view is that many common some predominantly liberal born ideas: cleaner air less pollution effective use of resources and many more fit perfectly into a free market system. It is also my view that so muddled in anti-free market envy education that has been taught over the past 50+ years. We are far away from understanding of our personal control over free markets and the laws that guide it the subtle evolution of a kinder Free Market System if we can participate freely and understand it. Then as subtle intelligent evolution proceeds and the higher road widens it can lead to our own natural contentment. Some may wonder why I injected Mussolini into my video. Mussolini was originally a socialist politician and a journalist at the Avanti! newspaper. In 1912, he became a member of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party (PSI), but was expelled from the PSI for advocating military intervention in World War I. The 1917 Russian revolution was the first large application on Karl Marx’s methods. Most of the men who would become known to the world as the Bolsheviks had little to show for their lives. They had been in and out of prison, constantly under police surveillance, rarely employed. Vladimir Lenin spent most of the decade preceding the revolution drifting between Krakow, Zurich, and London. Joseph Stalin spent those years in the Caucasus, running protection rackets and robbing banks. Leon Trotsky had escaped from Siberian exile. Yes, many Bolsheviks had an exceedingly difficult life and held deep contempt for the ruling class. Bolsheviks purged the ruling class via murder and violence. The seeds of the Marxist revolution started under the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party formed in 1998 The first Bolsheviks started the Russian Soviet Federal Socialist Republic on this wave to the he glory of communism 1917-1924 Historians put the death toll around 10 million people. World history is not a pretty place. If it were not for the ultimate entry of the Americans into Worlds War I and II the compounding death from Totalitarian Socialists and Fascists regimes would have allowed the decline into hell on this planet into at unimaginable realms of death and suffering. Socialism has proven to be a disaster on a large scale and even modern western socialism/lite is failing. It is all based on the redistribution of non-existent wealth continuation. The biggest problem in the modern world is the indoctrination of the view that Free Markets are bad because it creates envy and groups with large access to current wealth. Then groups that would have been considered rich 100 years ago are now considered very poor today. Free markets have proven capable in every way to improve the plight of humanity. The incredibly sad thing is we do not teach the straightforward training and continual effort required for a Free Market system to produce the Marx’s dream of an of a life of contentment. Humanity needs the real-life experiences and freedom, to grow, learn, fail, and ultimately succeed in the journeys towards an engrained form of human responsibility and large-scale contentment. A good rule of law, a fair free market system and people that learn from their mistakes. Granted this path can seem less appetizing than the instantaneous grab of property, wealth, and power through swift violence. Freedom requires consistent effort and a balanced system that recognizes quickly when any form of power is tilting out of balance. I think it requires a degree of enlightened spirituality tempered with the realities of the human condition and existence. The freedom for people to pursue, fail and learn from the act of doing for yourself and for people you care for. I selfishly put some effort into this. My mind likes this unexplained existence of life. The probability of positive capability outcome from well observed Free Markets. We are the monkey that got smart! We as smart monkeys can do many positive things. We are brains that are evolving.

[@gadyariv2456]

The American greater public discussion about socialism & communism is very confused and ignorant. It usually comes down to people on both sides describing the welfare state as a socialist endeavor, which it isn't. so you end up with ludicrous claims by advocates and critics alike, that so-called "radical ideas" like Medicare for all are socialist legislation, that's just incorrect. You end up with Americans calling the Scandinavian Socialist countries, it's just factually wrong on so many levels. Historically the welfare state emerged as a way to prevent socialism & communism and ensure a continuing economic productivity of the nation. The idea is that if you take away the factors that make people attracted to revolutionary ideas like Socialism and communism, mainly the low quality of life of the working class, to protect the liberal free market and capitalism. the wealthy are willing to trickle down some money toward the working class, in the form of the welfare state, to prevent a socialist revolution. Things like Medicare for all and a Minimum wage are NOT socialism at all, they are liberal policies. and don't get me started on how American misuse the word liberal.

[@iammrbeat]

I wish I could heart your comment twice, but alas...scarcity. Well put.

[@gadyariv2456]

@@iammrbeat Thank you, your replay made my day.

[@PhilWorley]

Best comment I’ve read in awhile on here.

[@kallmannkallmann]

Best way i ever heard this phenomenon described in so few words, well written!

[@bloodyconstraint920]

Why is the welfare state not a socialist endeavor?Sure, since public strife is not a commodity and the things done to alleviate such strife are also not a commodity what tends to happen is that regardless social intent a bureaucracy develops, in the interests of which public strife and the actions taken to alleviate said strife in conjunction tend to become a type of commodity. So, the value of strife when addressed publically too often undergoes a strange type of inflation which requires a greater and greater expenditure of resources even when such expenditure should reduce the strife to negligible. Then, even under a purely socialist system pseudo markets within the realm of the public good, and resultant expenditure hierarchies come into existence and vie for social and monetary attention. "Men are so simple and yield so readily to the desires of the moment that he who will trick will always find another who will suffer to be tricked." Niccolo Machiavelli

[@zoraadora2277]

Cool. 😎It would be neat to see you do a video on Proutism and Distributism. 🤔

[@sammyafe4197]

I'm a fool for not subscribing earlier. Thank you for this down to Earth video

[@Evangelionism]

_"Come at me, bro."_ *I like this guy.*

[@geoffmiller3468]

I like chicken.

[@LilWindex1378]

@@geoffmiller3468 Fried? Baked? Grilled? Live?

[@Jackzay90]

I love that clip from Crowder because the kid completely owns him and Crowder pretends he is offended by the kid calling something an "autistic way of thinking" and shuts it down lol.

[@bencebors8792]

I've been kinda wondering lately... What if we could combine certain/some elements of capitalism and socialism into a proper economic system?

[@creatorof4wall332]

Thats a social democracy, I dont really like the idea about it since its still uses exploitation and other methods to achieve the consumerist needs of people but if you like it at least youre being a small bit progessive.

[@giancarlowong7580]

so smart pookie, just meet in the middle ! so high iq

[@melvayaredaguilar]

you deserve a shiny badge for a very good video and explanation

[@celadewallace474]

I like how you try to feel out and understand problems for yourself. This process is the critical component to better understanding and backing up your thoughts. Even if I disagree with you on points I applaud that you don't just assert things but show a bit of the work required to come to an understanding of something. Cheers.

[@tuckerbugeater]

Seems like you've been propagandized

[@epigaulus1219]

@@tuckerbugeater everybody regularly going online has been propagandized in some way. the search for the truth is the best you can do, don't ever expect to have arrived at it.

[@chloelincoln9095]

@@epigaulus1219 don’t ever expect to arrive to it omg I love that. Reminds me of my favorite line from Erykah Badu the one who knows something knows he knows nothing at all.

[@twitter.comelomhycy]

This guy is just representing all of us sane people in the world

[@MourningCoffeeMusic]

To me, it sounds like we need a mix of all of these (which we kind of have already). A social-democracy. Instead of being married to one idea, why not take the best ideas and work from there?

[@LakevusParadice]

Because there are no “good” ideas from any of the other systems. There are no “benefits” that come from theft. The only GOOD, fully good. Is freedom. Capitalism. The system of no theft and no coercion

[@LakevusParadice]

@@avastone5539 so you want a middle ground between force and freedom? Why would you ever want the middle ground of that? Why wouldn’t you want full freedom

[@LakevusParadice]

@@avastone5539 which is a travesty but should not be outlawed you cant imagine the conditions those people lived in and the poverty. to go from draconian medieval time to the industrial revolution. where if your kid didnt work they would probably starve. is it unfortunate? yes. but nothing like that would happen today with how wealthy we are. nevermind the fact that parents wouldnt send their kids to work in factories they would be harmed in. so no freedom is not the reason kids end up maimed in factories. extreme poverty at the start of the industrial revolution is. extreme poverty that was inherited from a period of history dominated by force. and not freedom.

[@longnoseboi]

@@avastone5539 total freedom is not the right to restrict the freedom of others

[@caleb3781]

@@longnoseboi so you need laws to prevent that right... hmm looks like we're back at square one.

[@col4574]

Strikes me any of those systems can become tyrannies under the heel of a dictator.What is best is to build a society like a simple tribal one in that the aim is to care for all its members and enable everyone to work together in pursuit of happiness and a healthy life,for all.