Fashion Expert Fact Checks Elsa and Anna's Costumes from "Frozen" | Glamour

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@ZoraTheberge
@ZoraTheberge 5 жыл бұрын
What’s fun is if you look at the Broadway musical, the costumes have much greater historical accuracy.
@brie8176
@brie8176 5 жыл бұрын
Zach T Was just about to comment the same thing! Ahh I love the musical
@sonnet141
@sonnet141 5 жыл бұрын
I read this comment then went to Google images of the Broadway show and first page had Elsa in pants. :|
@skweexer
@skweexer 5 жыл бұрын
because Broadway musicals and musicals in general focus more on immersion instead of merch sales like animated kids films :)
@Princessguilty
@Princessguilty 5 жыл бұрын
That’s because broadway is actually real people who can wear the costumes. When doing animation you want to make things appealing to the eye and the story.
@Stephanie-xz7qd
@Stephanie-xz7qd 5 жыл бұрын
It would be really hard and kinda unnecessary to animate dresses like that
@xayliacarvalho4250
@xayliacarvalho4250 5 жыл бұрын
I love how the coronation gown is literally covered in crowns XD
@少主-m4h
@少主-m4h 3 жыл бұрын
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@少主-m4h
@少主-m4h 3 жыл бұрын
O you were talking about the historical accurate dress I thought you meant elsa’s dress and I was trying to find where the crown is
@xayliacarvalho4250
@xayliacarvalho4250 3 жыл бұрын
@@少主-m4h to be fair I forgot I made this comment until recently and confused myself as well 😂
@Gfriend_Buddy99
@Gfriend_Buddy99 2 жыл бұрын
Incase someone didn't get the memo and thought the ceremony is for something else... 😁
@lingo01
@lingo01 5 жыл бұрын
When she's saying "strømper", "skjorta" and "väska" it sounds like she's saying professional terms, but she's just saying "socks", "shirt" and "bag" in norwegian xD
@JeezRight
@JeezRight 5 жыл бұрын
I know right?! 😂 If she wanted to use more bunad related words she could have said "hosor" instead of "strømper", "trøye" instead of "skjorte" and "stakk" instead of "skjørt" 😉
@mariaakaannie6138
@mariaakaannie6138 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really don't get that, also if we're talking bunad it should not be called bodice but the "vest" of the bunad. Like just use the english terms, you don't need to use the norwegian word. Especially when she doesn't even mention the use of "søljer" which there isn't an english word for.
@sara-linna.6983
@sara-linna.6983 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but her pronunciation is also very wrong😂
@CarolineForest
@CarolineForest 5 жыл бұрын
I was just about to say this xDDD I was just like "uhm.... yeah its a shirt, its literally a shirt.. yeah its a fancy shirt, but a shirt that dont look like that is also called a shirt, because thats just the norwegian word for it" and veske... I am dead... yes its a bag.. she looks so proud of herself when she is saying this. But hey, she is not wrong.
@lingo01
@lingo01 5 жыл бұрын
@@CarolineForest x'D
@TakahataStrify
@TakahataStrify 5 жыл бұрын
When we talk about Elsa we have to keep in mind that she refused any kind of physical touch and was afraid her powers would leak through her body, hence the long sleeves and gloves. And I think that Disney didn't thought of any historical accuracy when they created a kingdom in a probably alternative timeline.
@StrawberryGalore
@StrawberryGalore 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... It's not exactly supposed to be historically accurate.
@mitchellrideout3681
@mitchellrideout3681 4 жыл бұрын
@@StrawberryGalore But the whole point of the video is to point out historical inaccuracies. Obviously it's fantasy, but she's not gonna just let it slide and say it's ok since it's meant to be fantasy, since that contradicts the point of the video
@irlfaaiirrylolz2966
@irlfaaiirrylolz2966 4 жыл бұрын
Kida Lily they said IF it were in history at the end.
@FlickerFly444
@FlickerFly444 5 жыл бұрын
Them: *fact checking fashion* Kids currently: * fact checking how Olaf is 5’4 so Kristoff would be over 11 ft, and all the characters are giants*
@monsterjambrony
@monsterjambrony 5 жыл бұрын
The Person I don’t believe that Olaf is 5’4, because after I heard that I looked up how tall Elsa & Anna are, and I found out that Elsa’s 5’7 & Anna is 5’3, and Anna is definitely not smaller than Olaf, so I don’t believe it.
@FlickerFly444
@FlickerFly444 5 жыл бұрын
monsterjambrony well Minions are 3’5 so GRU would be 14. If he can be 14 I’m not too surprised at Disney not keeping up with proportions
@lilpeepliltracy1004
@lilpeepliltracy1004 4 жыл бұрын
The Person how tall would the earth giants be then... I’m scared
@stevekoernig
@stevekoernig 4 жыл бұрын
So oaken is like 14 ft hahahaha
@lilpeepliltracy1004
@lilpeepliltracy1004 4 жыл бұрын
Zarela Patricia wow
@thespooniesaga
@thespooniesaga 5 жыл бұрын
So... as an actual Norwegian, who owns a bunad, I was a bit thrown by all the past tense: Bunads are still made today, worn for special occasions (it falls under «good enough attire to attend a Royal party in»), and the words for things on the bunad are not archaic and no longer in use. A skjorte is still a skjorte if it's a man's button-down shirt, or a bunadsskjorte (bunad shirt). Side note, bunads are typically made as a one-piece dress, out of wool - and only a select few people are certified to make them; it involves hand-embroidering the whole thing, including the shirt in some styles. Some styles are fairly plain with very little embroidery on the dress, none on the shirt, some are extremely elaborate with embroidery on both the bodice AND skirt of the dress, and on the shirt. Many places, the skirt-part of the bunad is referred to as «stakk» (sounds like stack) - but I'm not entirely sure what it would translate to in English. Also, rosemaling (the wood-painting inspiring the embroidery on the bunad) is still practiced as an artform today. #TheMoreYouKnow
@AmalieSangovi
@AmalieSangovi 5 жыл бұрын
@Alicia en el Pais de las Maravillas Bunad has always been formal attire, and is still to be seen at just about every wedding, 17th of may (our national day) and other formal occasions. Not to be used as a costume as it is still a living tradition.
@MegaKaitouKID1412
@MegaKaitouKID1412 5 жыл бұрын
@@AmalieSangovi Were they one-piece in the 1840s, though? I'm no expert in Norwegian fashion, but lots of European outfits we'd recognize as dresses and assume are one piece with modern eyes were done in multiple pieces back then due to the limitations of the time (no zippers, for example) making it easier to dress and to fit clothes if they weren't one piece, and for the purpose of mixing and matching pieces.
@ginandtonic5756
@ginandtonic5756 5 жыл бұрын
MegaKaitouKID1412 the bunad is for most parts one pice. We only have a skirt underneath and the corset is worn on top of the bunad. But remember there is a bunad for every region. But mostly one piece
@elinevve
@elinevve 5 жыл бұрын
As a norwegian I completely agree with all this. It’s also often in one piece or with skirt yes
@elinevve
@elinevve 5 жыл бұрын
Also there’s embroidery on the skirt as simple as the one Anna is wearing in some types of bunads
@Altanicorn
@Altanicorn 5 жыл бұрын
She wore long sleeves cause she was very conservative and didnt wanna have skin exposed that might create ice
@hellywatermelonsmellinfell3436
@hellywatermelonsmellinfell3436 5 жыл бұрын
Thank God for this! The whole film is her covering up as much skin as possible because she's terrified she's going to kill someone. Compare Elsa to Anna who is younger. Anna's shoulders and arms are perfectly visible in her Coronation Day garb. And if you check the women in the ballroom, they're dressed similarly with short sleeves. Else is literally the only person going to super extreme lengths to cover up every bit of her skin and that says she's hiding something. Plot Twist: she is! It's nice to get an expert's opinion but if they don't take the entire situation into account while explaining their observations, they just sound like a pompous windbag. All of Elsa's clothing has been tailored to cover her as much as possible.
@ValerynValentine
@ValerynValentine 5 жыл бұрын
Very true! Although, it doesn't really matter. She's talking about the fashion accuracy to the time, not how it or specific garments like her gloves pertains to the movie. 😂👍👍
@sophiesmall1202
@sophiesmall1202 5 жыл бұрын
@@ValerynValentine The issue is that she's saying it's historically inaccurate, but actually in history, there would have been plenty of examples of people not wearing exactly what the trend was because of all sorts of personal reasons (though perhaps not magical ice powers 😂).
@srayj
@srayj 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you mentioned this. I wish she had compared Anna’s coronation gown to Elsa’s because it is clearly more fitting with the description provided: short sleeves, puffy, brighter, but Elsa’s dress is meant to evoke how literally buttoned up she was, hence why Let It Go has her shedding her gloves, cape, updo hair and the dress.
@marydidyouknow5826
@marydidyouknow5826 5 жыл бұрын
@@hellywatermelonsmellinfell3436 I wouldn't say she sounds like a pompous windbag, but I do think that context needs to be considered.
@Shirafune161
@Shirafune161 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the white coronation gowns were supposed to reflect the wealth of the royals? I could be wrong though. Also, why is Disney so afraid of fancy crowns? I think those huge crowns that were actually used by monarchs back in the day would look much more badass and regal than the flimsy little toy-tiara that Elsa had.
@shutterchick79
@shutterchick79 5 жыл бұрын
They're probably thinking of licensing the dress for patterns and Halloween costumes...
@millennialdisposition
@millennialdisposition 5 жыл бұрын
Those big crowns don't appeal to little girls who love delicate little tiaras
@lisaleyendekker8305
@lisaleyendekker8305 5 жыл бұрын
also, I think people would cringe or laugh to see a huge expensive tiara get thrown across the room by Elsa instead of that small tiara when she sings let it go
@makenseyelise4193
@makenseyelise4193 5 жыл бұрын
they probably take too much money to animate consistently
@MegaKaitouKID1412
@MegaKaitouKID1412 5 жыл бұрын
@@makenseyelise4193 3d animation is done by creating assets and using them-- you don't have to draw the crown 8 million times, you just move the model around. More intricate designs are harder and more expensive to make in the first place, but no matter how fancy the asset, if it's just a solid piece of metal sitting on a characters head it'll stay consistent without issue just the same. That's not to say more intricate assets wouldn't be more expensive to make though.
@mylie3236
@mylie3236 5 жыл бұрын
Just FYI, the lady refers to the animators doing a good design job but it's actually the visual development artists, the character designers and the art directors that take care of the design part. Animators animate : )
@AndreaIris86
@AndreaIris86 5 жыл бұрын
"even seeing an ankle would be very scandalous fo this time period" * proceeds to show many period pictures of women wearing calf lenght skirts *
@aur9035
@aur9035 4 жыл бұрын
I think that only applies for the nobles, Only the pictures of commoners were shown.
@toastysock
@toastysock 4 жыл бұрын
They were all wearing stockings.
@therashaunlewis
@therashaunlewis 5 жыл бұрын
Frozen actually took place during summer not winter
@nightingale2481
@nightingale2481 5 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, you're right..
@katomiyamashita2870
@katomiyamashita2870 5 жыл бұрын
I think your right....
@pandaperson8430
@pandaperson8430 5 жыл бұрын
...but they are in a snow storm so they dress as if it’s winter😐
@knightaradia341
@knightaradia341 5 жыл бұрын
she went to the ********** mountains, the top of the mountain, ICE SNOW
@claire7158
@claire7158 5 жыл бұрын
Well.. Elsa's fault
@yvesforbesfloresiii461
@yvesforbesfloresiii461 5 жыл бұрын
Please do Snow White, Cinderella, Alice (Alice in Wonderland), Wendy (Peter Pan), Aurora, Ariel, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Esmeralda, Megara, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida and Moana next
@chykim1
@chykim1 5 жыл бұрын
Right!!!
@paigeisme95
@paigeisme95 5 жыл бұрын
Ariel? 😂
@yvesforbesfloresiii461
@yvesforbesfloresiii461 5 жыл бұрын
@@paigeisme95 It's the dresses she wears when she turns into a human that are not historically accurate
@aniyal5487
@aniyal5487 5 жыл бұрын
they did belle already
@millennialdisposition
@millennialdisposition 5 жыл бұрын
Snow White's dress is the only one that's actually historically accurate
@user-vn5nm9nu7z
@user-vn5nm9nu7z 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY HIRING A FASHION HISTORIAN. SHES GREAT. now, redo all of your inaccurate 100 years of x, y, and z videos with her qualified knowledge. thnxx glamour
@chykim1
@chykim1 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@areyouraidy5967
@areyouraidy5967 5 жыл бұрын
first name last name She still made some mistakes tho.. but it’s miles better, I can agree on that!
@bluetowel4251
@bluetowel4251 5 жыл бұрын
She made SO many mistakes tho
@katiearcher4475
@katiearcher4475 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised she didnt mention that the main reason for corsets was to help with the weight of the clothes. Padding was added to clothing to get the figure wanted, tight lacing wasnt that popular.
@apanmarklouiebitangcol9728
@apanmarklouiebitangcol9728 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Moonlitwatersofaqua
@Moonlitwatersofaqua 5 жыл бұрын
Elsa's coronation dress seems to be designed to be more symbolic it seems. Her dress always came off as super restricting to me. Which would fit how she was feeling that whole day.
@melenasnider6307
@melenasnider6307 3 жыл бұрын
Omggggg this is so true I never realized that. Thanks for pointing that out lol
@smushputato1332
@smushputato1332 5 жыл бұрын
Ppl do realize that the design for the character also needs to be kept fairly simple, cause you know, they need to animate it?
@redvelvetaremyqueens2022
@redvelvetaremyqueens2022 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! making it more simplified is one of the things to keep in mind for character design in animation (also, colors of clothing sometimes have meaning to the character) This situation can be both for 2D and 3D animation. In 2D, there's more to draw. In 3D, more details in 3D takes longer time to render
@liisellillemagi5491
@liisellillemagi5491 4 жыл бұрын
You're missing the point. The point is that it's pretty much not accurate at all. The designers could've at least tried...
@Kn1cknackz0
@Kn1cknackz0 4 жыл бұрын
Simple doesn't mean it has to be bad though. But maybe their animation team is just simply not that good. :)
@rachelwei2286
@rachelwei2286 4 жыл бұрын
lmao which is why frozen 2 took so long because the animators took clothing detail into the next level
@alfredoronco7720
@alfredoronco7720 4 жыл бұрын
@@rachelwei2286 they need to do a video just like this but frozen 2
@penelope563
@penelope563 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think the costume designers were particularly concerned with historical accuracy
@May-xs3pw
@May-xs3pw 5 жыл бұрын
I think they took it into consideration and added some elements but they kinda modernised it for the audience
@theweekndincludesthursdays8016
@theweekndincludesthursdays8016 5 жыл бұрын
May The lady thinks so too.
@skweexer
@skweexer 5 жыл бұрын
@@May-xs3pw exactly!!!
@secretlyamonkey
@secretlyamonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@catya
@catya 5 жыл бұрын
True but its fun to see how they actually would have looked like if they were historically accurate. I personally think we should incorporate more history in children shows. Its already there, they just need to make it accurate.
@fantasyfiction101
@fantasyfiction101 5 жыл бұрын
Can Karolina Żebrowska or Bernadette Banner react to this?
@moonlitplanet904
@moonlitplanet904 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god yes!!! Love them both!!
@illeatyou
@illeatyou 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sakarisaamaki2480
@sakarisaamaki2480 5 жыл бұрын
Yaas
@melissak3885
@melissak3885 5 жыл бұрын
Yes to Karolina, but no thanks to Bernadette Banner. Her weird, affected accent is like pretentious nails down a chalkboard to me. But Karolina is so knowledgeable, I really appreciate her insights.
@marylancelot
@marylancelot 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm obsessed with both of them
@andreajaderegala6535
@andreajaderegala6535 5 жыл бұрын
Winter boots made out of reindeer skin, sorry Sven. Me: *sips milk* that's kinda dark.
@annarey5070
@annarey5070 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of people still wear skaller (the reindeer-skin boots) Poor Sven
@sparkIe.jumpropequeen
@sparkIe.jumpropequeen 5 жыл бұрын
Oof
@mizzfit02
@mizzfit02 5 жыл бұрын
and reindeer meat is delicious.
@andreajaderegala6535
@andreajaderegala6535 5 жыл бұрын
@@mizzfit02 oh god--
@prettyastri
@prettyastri 5 жыл бұрын
@Katherine Weissenberger she said milk not TEA
@Laartjetjeez
@Laartjetjeez 5 жыл бұрын
"So this dress is total fantasy." The talking reindeer and trolls in this film however.. typical 19th century..
@wedolyrics9324
@wedolyrics9324 5 жыл бұрын
The reindeer doesn't talk.
@vivianvisi0n
@vivianvisi0n 5 жыл бұрын
We do lyrics In one scene it does
@wedolyrics9324
@wedolyrics9324 5 жыл бұрын
@@vivianvisi0n | I mean, he isn't generally a talking character, so it's not really a fair statement.
@ocon10731
@ocon10731 4 жыл бұрын
Kristoff made Sven talk
@DanielPereira-ey9nt
@DanielPereira-ey9nt 4 жыл бұрын
You missed the point, "This drees is total fantasy" was not a critic, it was a verdict, the point of the video was not to criticize the outfits but to judge their historical accuracy and show what these characters would look like in real life, there is nothing to correct or be cynical about Edit: this comment is stupid, please just ignore me
@pikenitreet
@pikenitreet 5 жыл бұрын
Although a lot of what she is saying is correct, much of it is actually really incorrect to the point where I feel like she just says Norwegian words to sound smarter. When she says that these garments WERE called "veske", "strømpe" and "skjørt" she is really just translating the words, purse, stockings and skirts are STILL known as "veske", "strømpe" and "skjørt". Also when you write the "traditional names" for these garments, please don´t mix them in to seem smarter. At Anas 8th layer, when you write apron (known as a "forkle" in Norwegian) and "veske" (purse), couldn´t you have translated both? Or neither, it just seems so half-assed. Another thing that REALLY bothered me was the fact that she put the reindeer shoes together with the bunad, OMG I can´t even begin to describe how inaccurate that is! The sami people are an entirely different group of people, and does NOT wear a bunad, they have their own traditional dress. The bunad shoes look more like the shoes Elsa is wearing, usually in leather, with a small, broad heel, and with a nice, silver buckle on. Please get this right, it´s just spreading misinformation. It´s kind of sad to see how hyped the comments are for this "amazing, totally accurate" Norwegian costumes.
@shaunyjimenez9637
@shaunyjimenez9637 5 жыл бұрын
Wow dude chill she's american she tried her best wanna see you describing caribbean 1800's clothes without missing stuff
@andre3328
@andre3328 5 жыл бұрын
@@shaunyjimenez9637 If you publish ANYTHING claiming to be factual in any form of media, you have a responsibility to make sure it's accurate. Especially if it's published by a large brand like this, with supposed experts weighing in on things. It isn't hard to e-mail a rough cut or script to a couple dozen people who know what they're talking about.. The fact that even an average Norwegian can point out errors here is concerning, and makes you wonder what else they got wrong. I have no doubt that @Surrekatt wouldn't try and publish a video titled "Fashion expert fact checks Pirates of the Caribbean", because Surrekatt knows what they don't know.
@shaunyjimenez9637
@shaunyjimenez9637 5 жыл бұрын
@@andre3328 I- my dude the caribbean doesn't have pirates and all I'm saying is to not expect an american historian to know everything about norway, her job is hard and she did it well.
@pako7414
@pako7414 5 жыл бұрын
@@shaunyjimenez9637 She didn't do it well at all.
@shaunyjimenez9637
@shaunyjimenez9637 5 жыл бұрын
@@pako7414 i give up
@kahurikuul
@kahurikuul 5 жыл бұрын
She keeps saying that the dress was not appropriate because it was an evening coronation. But the coronation was actually held during the day. So....
@rileywalker2637
@rileywalker2637 5 жыл бұрын
It was during the night, during love is an open door it's dark outside
@roxy7963
@roxy7963 5 жыл бұрын
@@rileywalker2637 but that was after the corination
@abathtub1411
@abathtub1411 5 жыл бұрын
the term "day dress" is mostly used as a synonym for casual dress, what you would wear for day-to-day life, like how "evening dresses" are formal dresses. However since huge formal events like coronations could take up a whole day, people would technically be wearing "evening" clothes during the day.
@roxy7963
@roxy7963 5 жыл бұрын
@oh floofy oh well then the corrination was really long bc it was bright when it was the begging of the corrination
@fiyah__
@fiyah__ 5 жыл бұрын
@oh floofy eh? Wasn't that song sung during the after party?. The coronation wasnt during night time, but the party after the coronation was during night time
@VisaruSai
@VisaruSai 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who works in in the animation industry, Please stop referring to the Visual Development artists, the ones who actually design the look of the costumes, as Animators. WE ARE NOT ANIMATORS. Thank you.
@VisaruSai
@VisaruSai 5 жыл бұрын
@V The Visual Development Artists :) There's multiple. I would suggest checking out the concept art book.
@getjinxed96
@getjinxed96 5 жыл бұрын
Is visual development artists another way of saying character designer?
@moomimi
@moomimi 5 жыл бұрын
They're called concept artists.
@haippy9888
@haippy9888 5 жыл бұрын
@@getjinxed96 vis dev sometimes uses 3D elements and they are the ones who research references and then incorporate it into scenes, visual layouts of the scenes whether this pillar is either too big or too small etc. which ever works for production (technical side) whereas concept artists create initial character designs, character boards, colours/ textures and sometimes film posters etc.
@getjinxed96
@getjinxed96 5 жыл бұрын
@@haippy9888 ohhh, so visual developers basically focus on the background while concept artists focus on the characters? Thanks!
@Plu255
@Plu255 5 жыл бұрын
well, if Arendelle is in Arendal, then she would wear an Arendal bunad the one you made for her, the "historical correct" is a mix between mant different types of bunads so, this isn't correct either Also, when she's saying "strømper", "skjorta" and "väska" it sounds like she's saying professional terms, but she's just saying "socks", "shirt" and "bag" in norwegian xD
@aur9035
@aur9035 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa the top comment is exactly like your comment's second paragraph
@Fell.x
@Fell.x 5 жыл бұрын
I’m Norwegian. And I think the drawing y’all did wasn’t as accurate either.
@hennyharket
@hennyharket 5 жыл бұрын
Bunaden var det bittelitt, men yupp
@snowballfalls4115
@snowballfalls4115 5 жыл бұрын
I am too
@uhmno7944
@uhmno7944 4 жыл бұрын
Cuz frozen isn’t in Norway
@unknownlyn750
@unknownlyn750 4 жыл бұрын
The Tyler Janae Channel yes it is.
@uhmno7944
@uhmno7944 4 жыл бұрын
Z•Angel Animatez the Town Yes But the Map And Stuff is Wrong if you look it up Anna and Elsa are Czech names If they were in Norway why would they use Czech names. Usually people stick to their Traditional names
@Chlmey
@Chlmey 5 жыл бұрын
There are so many inacuracess here and it is really hurting my heart. She talks about the Bunad like it WAS something they wore, when it still is something norwegians were... And omg just so many wrong assumptions...
@carolynworthington8996
@carolynworthington8996 3 жыл бұрын
Really? For every day?
@sofieatcenie
@sofieatcenie 3 жыл бұрын
@@carolynworthington8996 no, bunads are modernised folk clothes worn for confirmations, graduations and national days. They’re based on what people wore everyday in the country during Norway’s romantic period but aren’t completely historically accurate
@annarey5070
@annarey5070 5 жыл бұрын
Uhhm, as a norwegian I could tell you that most of the stuff you talked about Anna wearing is still normal to wear today (mostly on Norway's national day) and the shoes you said Anna would wear are Sami, and Anna and Elsa are not Sami. Pluss the Sami shoes are called skaller and would never have been worn in combination with a bunad, with a bunad you would wear bunadsko which are shoes made specifically for wearing with a bunad. But other than that, great video!
@SunflowerSpotlight
@SunflowerSpotlight 5 жыл бұрын
She also misrepresented corsetry practices in general. Which was done in another video as well. It’s frustrating.
@shaunyjimenez9637
@shaunyjimenez9637 5 жыл бұрын
What?
@areyouraidy5967
@areyouraidy5967 5 жыл бұрын
This video was so great up until the shoes... The shoes you put on Ana was (and are still) used by the Sami people, who lived in the furthest north part of Norway. The movie is based in Arendal in the south meaning they where not Sami people and would not use these shoes. And Arendal does not have reindeer the same northern Norway does so they do not use them but rather other animals. Also as mentioned the people who did use these shoes are Sami and did not use the bunad but rather they’re very different kofte (google it if interested). So you would never see these shoes and the bunad in combination. And also the bunad was only for special occasions.
@isabellunde510
@isabellunde510 5 жыл бұрын
the shoes she wore in the movie remind me of the shoes we wear now with a bunad. Exept for the fact that they are tall. so i agree with you
@millennialdisposition
@millennialdisposition 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that's really cool
@mailahochstrat6720
@mailahochstrat6720 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying that, i was about to do the same. Sami clothing and bunad are two very different things
@EmoNightDragon
@EmoNightDragon 5 жыл бұрын
So true... And bunad shoes does have heels, so in that way Anna's shoes are accurate ish. They should've been lower, had a more round/squarish tip and a silver buckle.
@lingo01
@lingo01 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny how a professional would know things foreigners don't, but you could just go ask a native person and find the information that way instead... and even better...
@joulestrouve3038
@joulestrouve3038 5 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting and detailed, but just one note : please stop saying "animators", their job is to ANIMATED haha. Here we would be talking about either props/clothing designers or character designers, just designers in general. Just like an actor isn't responsible for their outfits, neither are animators.
@WulfLovelace
@WulfLovelace 5 жыл бұрын
Tight lacing is a myth - or mostly a myth. Much like fashion magazines today, the mythical 18 inch waist is more mention in passing in these ads. This Fashion Historian, should know this.
@lizetriquelme
@lizetriquelme 4 жыл бұрын
Totally! I expected better.
@Lady_Lily_Blubaugh
@Lady_Lily_Blubaugh 2 жыл бұрын
@@lizetriquelme Agreed!!
@hennyharket
@hennyharket 5 жыл бұрын
We didn’t wear Sami shoes .......the Sami did...
@toastysock
@toastysock 4 жыл бұрын
That's what she said?
@IceDomo
@IceDomo 4 жыл бұрын
@@toastysock Then why did she apply their traditional clothes to Anna.
@dnsoulx
@dnsoulx 4 жыл бұрын
hol up i thot sami was a finnish thing
@SuvuIC
@SuvuIC 3 жыл бұрын
@@dnsoulx naaah they live in Norway/Sweden/Finland and Russia too I think, stereotypically in that area, above the polar circle
@meylox7927
@meylox7927 5 жыл бұрын
Excuse you, it's "Wandering Oaken's Trading Post *_and Sauna_* " Get it right! *sips tea*
@disgrace.e
@disgrace.e 5 жыл бұрын
Sad Pancake wOaH tHErE
@apple4756
@apple4756 5 жыл бұрын
I was just waiting for them to show Anna hit the last part of the sign and just “... and Sauna” 😂
@ky5579
@ky5579 5 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I was like “How dare she leave out the and sauna because the sauna is a very important part of it” sorry I just love that part
@GoVocaloider
@GoVocaloider 5 жыл бұрын
"Yoohoo!"
@meylox7927
@meylox7927 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoVocaloider Big summer blow out!
@hedvigen7377
@hedvigen7377 5 жыл бұрын
Its really funny for Norwegians to hear how she says the Norwegian words like: bunad, skjorte, skjørt, strømpe😂
@norahelenebena
@norahelenebena 5 жыл бұрын
Me too haha
@bluetowel4251
@bluetowel4251 5 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s also called a stakk when it comes to the bunad not a skjørt
@charlieblue2036
@charlieblue2036 5 жыл бұрын
Det er virkelig det!!!!
@mariabjastadhustadnes7484
@mariabjastadhustadnes7484 5 жыл бұрын
Ja😂 yes😂
@mathildemyking1414
@mathildemyking1414 5 жыл бұрын
jep
@mariabjastadhustadnes7484
@mariabjastadhustadnes7484 5 жыл бұрын
It’s fun to hear her pronounce some of the norwegian words like: skjorte, veske, bunad, skjørt. She didn’t pronounce them correctly, but that’s fine. And the skirt, or «skjørt» is called «stakk» on the bunad :)
@mariaakaannie6138
@mariaakaannie6138 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't get why she doesn't just use the english names also why does she not mention "søljer" at all?
@hannahkisen5995
@hannahkisen5995 5 жыл бұрын
She does mention Søljer, but she don't pronounce it correctly, and could be hard to catch@@mariaakaannie6138
@mariaakaannie6138
@mariaakaannie6138 5 жыл бұрын
@@hannahkisen5995 Ah okay, I must have missed it then
@gennafer
@gennafer 4 жыл бұрын
Anna was wearing stockings at the coronation, you saw them when she got knocked into the boat. I assume she removed them after trekking through the snow in slippers.
@sunii2939
@sunii2939 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only Norwegian that’s shocked by how wrong they are about a lot of the facts in the vid?
@supermarthe38
@supermarthe38 5 жыл бұрын
I’m dissapointed, but not surprised haha
@celineolsenbhle1941
@celineolsenbhle1941 5 жыл бұрын
Sa ho ikke noe om at Norge er en del av Sverige på 1800 tallet? Eller tar jeg helt feil nå?
@sunii2939
@sunii2939 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy cat lady Yas «Den svensk-norske union fra 1814 hadde vært lite mer enn en personalunion med felles konge. Det vil si at Norge hadde en høy grad av indre selvstyre, men det var Sverige som sto for utenrikspolitikken til begge landene.» dette er hvertfall det som står på snl, MEN det står jo her at selv om vi var i union med Sverige så var det for det meste bare utenrikspolitikken som ble delt aka vi var basically et eget land under hele unionen som betyr at det er helt urelevant om Norge var i union med Sverige eller ikke
@celineolsenbhle1941
@celineolsenbhle1941 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunii2939 takk for svaret, men vi hadde egen konge?
@sunii2939
@sunii2939 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy cat lady Yas vi hadde felles konge under unionen
@melissaloverde1566
@melissaloverde1566 5 жыл бұрын
You know what else is inaccurate, talking snow men.
@JulieWallis1963
@JulieWallis1963 5 жыл бұрын
Melissa Lo Verde singing reindeer, snow monsters, magical ice castles, a princess with the power to freeze her sibling....yet it’s the dress that this channel has issues with 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@melissaloverde1566
@melissaloverde1566 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂
@anjamrashid1
@anjamrashid1 5 жыл бұрын
Fr
@oliveranderson7264
@oliveranderson7264 5 жыл бұрын
julie Wallis It’s still interesting to know about what people wore at the time. No one’s blaming the movie creators.
@pandemikzz
@pandemikzz 5 жыл бұрын
And ice powers
@malinw1910
@malinw1910 5 жыл бұрын
Theres no way that a royal from Arendal in the south in the 1840s would wear shoes from the indigenous people exclusive to the very north. Thats too far into fiction.
@whatif3271
@whatif3271 5 жыл бұрын
Not really. Like she built a magical castle out of ice. I dont believe "too far into fiction" exists. The main focus is the story
@bellajaid
@bellajaid 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was pretty clear the family that owned the shop that sold her the clothing was Northern, and royalty wasn't a consideration in the choices.
@LadyDragonbane
@LadyDragonbane 5 жыл бұрын
I was face-palming at that. No way Sami footwear would've been worn down here (I live in the south)
@LivingfreewithSophie
@LivingfreewithSophie 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing when those Sami-shoes popped up :p
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 5 жыл бұрын
The point was she bought everything on a whim at a trading post
@pabluu6832
@pabluu6832 5 жыл бұрын
Strømpe is literally just norwegian for "stockings" lol..
@maneten4682
@maneten4682 5 жыл бұрын
What!! Combine the Sami shoes (skaller) with bunad???? Thats really insensitive to the cultural supression of the Samis done by Norwegians and not factually accurate at all.
@missk159
@missk159 3 жыл бұрын
As an Australian who knows very little in this topic, even I thought it was strange that a Norwegian princess would wear Sámi shoes
@Crescend0ll
@Crescend0ll 5 жыл бұрын
Animators don't design the characters (and their costumes). They """just""" make the characters move (believe me, I'm one). So stop referring to the creative teams behind these costume choices as animators when they're most likely to be concept artists, character designers, etc.
@chicky_nuggies6104
@chicky_nuggies6104 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah form what I’ve heard the animators just animate what they’re told to animate while other people have different jobs to create what the costumes look like and where it take solace so I believe you
@lexisanoddperson8680
@lexisanoddperson8680 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The animators might suggest a few changes to make animating easier (or because their program has an error) but that's about it.
@peachyyocean6078
@peachyyocean6078 5 жыл бұрын
Aaah im Norwegian and trust me you’d need long sleeves in winter! ❄️ It’s always as funny hearing people try to talk Norwegian! You would not wear a bunad if it was not a important event! Only samiis wore those shoes Anna wore!
@kristin123a
@kristin123a 5 жыл бұрын
But it was summer during her coronation.
@mariaakaannie6138
@mariaakaannie6138 5 жыл бұрын
@@kristin123a The dress was made to look like a bunad too though, which was ignored in this video. And if it's based around a bunad then it would have long sleeves no matter what. Pluss Norway it can be summer in Norway and you could still need sleeves, especially if you live near a Fjord and the larger mountains because the winds bloew really heavily.
@kristin123a
@kristin123a 5 жыл бұрын
MariaakaAnnie - Cosplay well, Arendelle and Arendal is in the south of Norway so in would in fact be okay to not have sleeves. Anyway, you use a linen shirt under the bunad and linen gives very little warmth. The jacket or cape is what keeps you warm. And her coronation dress is obviously not made to look like a bunad anyway.
@Anna-pj8te
@Anna-pj8te 5 жыл бұрын
Ingri A Norway isn’t very warm in the summer. I live south in Norway, and there’s around 68 degrees in the summer.
@kristin123a
@kristin123a 5 жыл бұрын
Panala når du har på et gigantisk skjørt i ull klarer du deg helt fint med korte ermer på kjolen din på Sørlandet, jo.
@RachelAung
@RachelAung 5 жыл бұрын
Ok Idk about Norway specifically but corset lacing was never meant to be tightly laced until the late 1890s/early 1900s. Even then it was not common in the slightest and was usually seen as not practical
@markoliimatainen2565
@markoliimatainen2565 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, tightly laced corsets were never very popular in scandinavia, they were mainly mainland europe thing.
@Siseja
@Siseja 5 жыл бұрын
NORWAY DIDNT EVEN USE CORSETS WITH BUNADS! The vest is very solidly structured with front lacing to keep stuff in place AND ALSO IT IS ATTACHED TO THE SKIRT, ITS NOT A TWO PIECE
@shaunyjimenez9637
@shaunyjimenez9637 5 жыл бұрын
Well except the victorian era cause back then queen Victoria's dressing style became famous around women, there were countless cases were women were suffocated or stabbed by their corsets
@shaunyjimenez9637
@shaunyjimenez9637 5 жыл бұрын
@@Siseja wow chill
@Siseja
@Siseja 5 жыл бұрын
@@shaunyjimenez9637 DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO :P
@sharicemcclendon1485
@sharicemcclendon1485 5 жыл бұрын
*PLEASE DO MERIDA*
@mauriceestelle4619
@mauriceestelle4619 5 жыл бұрын
👍😁
@alexandrabacon6329
@alexandrabacon6329 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@hennyharket
@hennyharket 5 жыл бұрын
There’s a singing snowman and a 21 year old queen who turns July into December in a land that doesn’t exist and ur fixating on a dress with long sleeves😂
@mitchellrideout3681
@mitchellrideout3681 4 жыл бұрын
Because thats the whole point of the video.... to talk about the fashion.
@juliemt1117
@juliemt1117 5 жыл бұрын
pftt.... THEY DID NOT WEAR SAMI SHOUES, the sami did!
@hennyharket
@hennyharket 5 жыл бұрын
JulieMT EXACTLY thank you
@igottasneeze091
@igottasneeze091 4 жыл бұрын
JulieMT THANK YOU
@Kat-tj1dv
@Kat-tj1dv 5 жыл бұрын
*hires a fashion historian* *completely neglects looking into the history of corset lacing and continues perpetuating the myth that tight lacing was "The Way" *
@avamcmoran5409
@avamcmoran5409 5 жыл бұрын
Polina K Preach
@rayofsunshine2
@rayofsunshine2 5 жыл бұрын
Polina K yeah she was like So TIghT ThEy CoUlDnT BreAtHE tHEy WanTeD tHE smAlLEsT wAist but it was more of adding padding to the bust and waist and then some tight lacing to create the illusion of a small waist. Especially in the 19 century this was the fashion. She just played into the stigma of corsets And you can tell she didn’t really put much research into the corset side of things
@INKSTARS1138
@INKSTARS1138 5 жыл бұрын
exactly! Very few engaged in tightlacing, most of the silhouettes were achieved with a combination of things. (Women not being able to breathe was a combination of unfamiliarity with corsets, heavy dresses and fabrics, and the fact that wearing a corset requires an entirely different way of breathing! (Upward, intead of in and out! I still breathe this way, it's very productive for me as a former asthma sufferer.)
@cyprith
@cyprith 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. Considering she calls herself a "fashion historian" I was very disappointed.
@Tesserain
@Tesserain 5 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that and then I read your comment!
@JaviTruloveSims
@JaviTruloveSims 5 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who cringed when she said that "Tight lacing was a common practice"?
@anazivatovic9601
@anazivatovic9601 5 жыл бұрын
Nope
@curehead9877
@curehead9877 5 жыл бұрын
I did too. The crinoline made the waist looks smaller. Tight lacing is a myth. No one tight laced,it was all photoshopped by using white paint at the time.
@autobeancheesedog8316
@autobeancheesedog8316 5 жыл бұрын
Also when she said "corsets were used for hundreds of years". Corsets were newish at this time. Stays were used up until corsets came into use during the early-mid 1800's
@katharinajohnson2761
@katharinajohnson2761 5 жыл бұрын
@@curehead9877 Actually, women did in fact, tight lace sometimes. But all the same, it was simply an illusion. Wide shoulders and several layers of petticoats made for a severe hourglass shape, but the waist measurements only went down a few inches. I suggest watching some of Bernadette Banner's videos on this topic; it's really interesting!
@asterismos5451
@asterismos5451 5 жыл бұрын
@@katharinajohnson2761 Tight-lacing did happen, but it was rare and mostly done by wealthy, upper-class women. Empress Sissi of Austria-Hungary (in the late 1800s, early 1900s, I think) had a 16 inch waist at one point.
@ingeborg418
@ingeborg418 5 жыл бұрын
Many people in Norway dress up in bunads for the 17th of May, which is our national day, so we still use them
@MsBabbi
@MsBabbi 5 жыл бұрын
Ingeborg Mæland Jensen Or for Christmas
@celineolsenbhle1941
@celineolsenbhle1941 5 жыл бұрын
Og konfirmasjon. Idk hva det er på engelsk da
@dilaralam454
@dilaralam454 5 жыл бұрын
thats my bday :D
@needkhun
@needkhun 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine little girls wearing this dress if they did it accurately
@laurelcook9078
@laurelcook9078 5 жыл бұрын
needkhun lmao
@c0nnorisnotreal
@c0nnorisnotreal 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@avasmommy040608
@avasmommy040608 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao 😂😂
@sofieatcenie
@sofieatcenie 3 жыл бұрын
It isn’t accurate though
@jenniferdanielson1001
@jenniferdanielson1001 5 жыл бұрын
The “floral motifs” are called rosemåling
@alltarskit3191
@alltarskit3191 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone ask you? No. Did I want to know? No.
@AndromedaCripps
@AndromedaCripps 5 жыл бұрын
Glamour: *Makes "100 years of" videos* Us: HIRE A REAL FASHION HISTORIAN!!! Glamour: *hires real fashion historian for frozen video* Us: Now you have Norwegian inaccuracies... ;n;
@nala3055
@nala3055 5 жыл бұрын
@J .S exactly oml
@averie3424
@averie3424 5 жыл бұрын
@J .S lmao boo boo that the most arrogant and idiotic comment I've ever read. sit down hun
@lily-jn6yg
@lily-jn6yg 5 жыл бұрын
J .S this chick literally has a job being a historian, she probably knows more about than you and ten minute video can’t really represent that, and she’s given a script
@newboy7745
@newboy7745 5 жыл бұрын
The
@newboy7745
@newboy7745 5 жыл бұрын
Theta co ptts
@cecaniacc
@cecaniacc 5 жыл бұрын
People: That's not accurate. Disney: you seriously gonna tell us that?
@Kitty_UwU-gh3uh
@Kitty_UwU-gh3uh 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think Elsa should wear shorts sleeve, she wear long sleeve cause she's afraid her power would scared everyone I don't think they watch the movie like seriously 🙄
@Userr676
@Userr676 4 жыл бұрын
@Hedgehog yah it could be so cause when she was about to freeze annas heart it came out of everywhere
@Userr676
@Userr676 4 жыл бұрын
@Hedgehog oh
@lexisanoddperson8680
@lexisanoddperson8680 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Not everything has to be accurate to the stuff in our world when there's freaking magic and talking snowmen.
@angelosumugat6653
@angelosumugat6653 4 жыл бұрын
@Hedgehog any skin exposed will release ice.
@angelosumugat6653
@angelosumugat6653 4 жыл бұрын
@Hedgehog well yeah. But her face doesnt produce ice. If she did then her face would be frozen (Pun not inteded)
@FormerlyNotKittyQueenYT
@FormerlyNotKittyQueenYT 4 жыл бұрын
Anna: is wearing reindeer skin boots Sven: looks at her Kristof: “Im breaking up with you“
@KakakaShu
@KakakaShu 5 жыл бұрын
"So this dress is total fantasy" I'm sorry lady but the whole movie is a fantasy, there isn't any girl in this world who had an ice power and create an eternal winter by stepping on the river/sea.
@TheDaniela3112
@TheDaniela3112 4 жыл бұрын
You're totally missing the point 🙄
@KakakaShu
@KakakaShu 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDaniela3112 I'm sorry if I made you upset, but it's my opinion
@alexa2464
@alexa2464 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDaniela3112 It's still true though.
@cherrykamino
@cherrykamino 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDaniela3112 but not entirely wrong tho lol
@TheDaniela3112
@TheDaniela3112 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all know this is a video analysing a movie for fun right?? Y'all know that we and the fashion expert in the video are aware that it's a movie, but still want to hear about how historically accurate it is, right? Killing the fun
@3bellam
@3bellam 5 жыл бұрын
how come glamour can’t even get a “fashion historian” that’s correct. I mean it’s much better than most of their fashion history videos, but still, she got quite a few things wrong.
@dominiquethomas3775
@dominiquethomas3775 5 жыл бұрын
Question minus the regional thing with the shoes for Anna, what did she get wrong? Historical fashion is hard to get 100% right a lot of the time. Fashion trends constantly change and people have different accounts as to what was popular vs what people actually wore. Then there is the issue of what was worn based on wealth, social status, region, and religion.
@SunflowerSpotlight
@SunflowerSpotlight 5 жыл бұрын
It bugs me too. You can just... leave it out. Especially the stuff about the tight lacing. Sigh. It’s frustrating.
@snowangel7980
@snowangel7980 5 жыл бұрын
@@dominiquethomas3775 I don't know anything about fashion, but I'm fairly certain that basing the totality of style at the time period on one image of a queen, and then filling in the gaps with British fashion isn't correct.
@Alex-tg9ld
@Alex-tg9ld 5 жыл бұрын
@@snowangel7980 Exactly what I felt too! It bothered me so much, British fashion does not equal Scandinavian fashion...
@karenoien325
@karenoien325 5 жыл бұрын
@@dominiquethomas3775 its abit dumb to base the royal fashion on British and swedish royal fashion cause Norway did not like Sweden and British and Scandinavian fashion at that time was not the same. The shoes they put on Anna was very much wrong and the shoes that is in the movie is actually more correct. And another thing (and I am no expert mind you) I have not seen any Bunad with a corset inside it. The top part of the bunad actually works like a corset most of the time and even if the royals would have worn a corset, we did not have any royals and the people on the countryside would have never worn a corset, because it was just to impractical... To compare Norwegian bunad is similar to German and Austrian Dindle.
@GingaGirl2000
@GingaGirl2000 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but the fact that that kinda shoes were worn by the Sámi people does not mean that they were worn by everyone in Norway. The Sámi people are the native people of Northern Europe and they're not the same as just regular Norwegians or Swedes or Finns. They're of a different ethnicity and they have their own culture, not to mention they have been treated rather horribly by the governments and the people of the countries they live in. I don't know if the use of shoes similar to theirs spread to the non-Sámi people in Norway, but if it did, saying Anna, who is not Sámi, should wear them, is incorrect. And quite disrespectful! You wouldn't make 19th century Americans wear native clothing unless they themselves were natives, would you? It's the same thing. Again, I might be wrong and the style if shoe might've spread to the non-Sámi population, but you did not mention that in this video, and thus I'm just telling you this thing here.
@mariaakaannie6138
@mariaakaannie6138 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the shoes mentioned would not be worn by non Sàmi-people.
@Misp0610
@Misp0610 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention they're still worn by sami people today and the way the video talked about them made them sound archaic.
@siljeelisesandnes1276
@siljeelisesandnes1276 5 жыл бұрын
TUSEN 👏🏼 TAKK👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@voldemozart
@voldemozart 5 жыл бұрын
Kom hit till kommentarsfältet för att påpeka detsamma! Mycket olycklig formulering av Glamour; den förbiser helt hur marginaliserade det samiska folket har varit (och fortfarande är) i våra länder...
@somnia97
@somnia97 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am sami and have those shoes, and I also have a bunad, but I would NEVER combine the two. It would not be accepted to use those shoes to a bunad by Norwegian people nor the sami people. And seeing that Norwegians started assimilating samis in the 1850s they would NEVER EVER wear sami apparel.
@fryahaglund2716
@fryahaglund2716 5 жыл бұрын
The bunad is still very much in use. During may 17th, Norways national day, if you go out to the streets, that's what the majority of people are wearing. There are different bunads for each municipality, in different colours and embroideries. Getting a bunad isn't something you just to the supermarket for, either. Only ceritfied people can make them, they are hand sewed, and can cost up to 50 000 norwegin kroner (5 700 dollars)
@donovandelaney3171
@donovandelaney3171 Жыл бұрын
Elsa was originally going to have historically accurate dresses. Elsa's concept artwork shows Elsa in historically accurate dresses. Dark Elsa wears three historically accurate dresses.
@LauraMolina-PaintDiva
@LauraMolina-PaintDiva 5 жыл бұрын
“Character Designer” and “Animator” are 2 separate jobs on an animated feature film production.
@sunitakunwar3795
@sunitakunwar3795 5 жыл бұрын
I like Frozen dress very much 😍😍😍😍
@rbrtck
@rbrtck 4 жыл бұрын
@@sunitakunwar3795 I'm not into women's clothing/fashion at all, but I love the various dresses and outfits in the _Frozen_ movies, too.
@sherischwert8536
@sherischwert8536 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, you know, the Norwegian isn't perfect, but A plus for effort. :)
@illeatyou
@illeatyou 5 жыл бұрын
Corsets did not exist for hundreds of years. Stays did. Corsets were invented during the Victorian period. Tight lacing was not widespread, although small waists were fashionable.
@shizukagozen777
@shizukagozen777 5 жыл бұрын
Corsets were NOT invented during the Victorian period ! And yes, it was massively widespread in Europe and in settlements ! Get your facts straight, honey ! 😂😂😂😂
@Siseja
@Siseja 5 жыл бұрын
@@shizukagozen777 NOT IN NORWAY THOUGH so get YOUR facts straight
@shizukagozen777
@shizukagozen777 5 жыл бұрын
@@Siseja Well, if that person was talking only about Norway, SHE SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIED IT !
@shizukagozen777
@shizukagozen777 5 жыл бұрын
@@Siseja Btw it's well known that the members of the european monarchies followed the fashion of the french royalty so why would Norway have had corsets only since the Victorian Era ? Does sound logical to me that all... Plus, it's not "invented", only COPIED.
@Siseja
@Siseja 5 жыл бұрын
@@shizukagozen777 Norway didn't have royalty or even nobility at all until the 20th century and Norway was one of the poorest countries in Europe until the 1960's. That's why
@violeteatsstars
@violeteatsstars 5 жыл бұрын
Oh great you hired someone who knows what they’re doing. Now can you hire a decent artist?!
@sy4920
@sy4920 5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly untill she started with the reindeer shoes😂. She really messed up with that.
@skweexer
@skweexer 5 жыл бұрын
exactly!!!! the artist seems like she knows what's shes doing but like,,,,,,,,,,,I'm not a professional, but I think I could have done betterr
@bloodtasteslikecookies6640
@bloodtasteslikecookies6640 5 жыл бұрын
XD ikr
@Vaehlo
@Vaehlo 5 жыл бұрын
Oof-
@_-_julie_-_7834
@_-_julie_-_7834 5 жыл бұрын
Well, did she though? Cringed my way through the video after the bunad part.....
@astronica776
@astronica776 5 жыл бұрын
I think you should check out some of the concept art for the movie. I remember some of the original outfits created in the old character designs showed a bit more accuracy in norwegian dresses and fashion in the time period set in the movie.
@thewillwiththeskill
@thewillwiththeskill 5 жыл бұрын
this is an animated movie where a woman has ice powers. its not exactly gonna be accurate.
@JixieDyeAuthor
@JixieDyeAuthor 4 жыл бұрын
I know that. It's pure entertainment, the way that some people like looking for easter eggs in movies or some people like to come up with fan theories. It's just part of the enjoyment of these movies, dissecting them for accuracy.
@psyffee3755
@psyffee3755 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody said it was going to be.
@Liv-dh6tn
@Liv-dh6tn 5 жыл бұрын
... actually corsets weren't that tight..... they could breathe, that was a stereotype made in today's society....
@mariaakaannie6138
@mariaakaannie6138 5 жыл бұрын
Also full corsets should not have been worn under bunads traditionally
@Liv-dh6tn
@Liv-dh6tn 5 жыл бұрын
@Niña Mala www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/everything-you-know-about-corsets-is-false/ io9.gizmodo.com/no-corsets-did-not-destroy-the-health-of-victorian-wom-1545644060
@Liv-dh6tn
@Liv-dh6tn 5 жыл бұрын
@Niña Mala as well as all the research Burnadette Banner did, and more but I don't want to search through all my history to find all the pages.
@ghostofdavinci2003
@ghostofdavinci2003 5 жыл бұрын
@J .S they should have hired a native fashion historian
@liv8705
@liv8705 5 жыл бұрын
I still don't know why they hate gowns,dress,skirts etc.
@celestiastra13
@celestiastra13 5 жыл бұрын
We need Karolina Żebrowska and Bernadette Banner here!
@ATHRENTHE2ND
@ATHRENTHE2ND 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!
@hillaryplace9726
@hillaryplace9726 5 жыл бұрын
Yesssssssssssssssssssss
@selias-qm2nc
@selias-qm2nc 5 жыл бұрын
She really didn’t have to try to pronounce all those norwegian words to sound smarter tho, cause she butchered them all and it was just a little redundant. “a shirt called shirt.” “a bag called a bag”..
@jen.m.3781
@jen.m.3781 5 жыл бұрын
s. elias she isn’t trying to be smarter she’s trying to be informative because it’s an informative video, even if she butchered them she tried her best
@taigatanfan_
@taigatanfan_ 5 жыл бұрын
Jen. M. If she was trying to be informative she could have just called a shirt a shirt, because that’s literally what it is and even is directly translated as. You aren’t being “informative” by mentioning things that allready have English words for them. It would have been accurate and informative to say the words that are specific and doesn’t have a translation. But it is cringy just sitting there saying “stockings called stockings”. It’s literally just the Norwegian word for an allready pretty normal English thing. No need to speak Norwegian to describe it. If it’s about the “bunad” then yes, there doesn’t exist a name for it in English because it’s pretty special and specific for Norway. The shirts and socks? Bruh they don’t have those specific names. Dont belive me? Google Skjorte and you will just get “shirt” because that’s literally what it is. The exact same thing. If you are trying to be informative just explain the things as what they are instead of throwing in a native languages names for it just to sound smarter. It doesn’t make you sound informative at all. It makes her sound like an idiot that have no idea what she is actually talking about.
@pyroshayniac1090
@pyroshayniac1090 5 жыл бұрын
Don't be a snot, she was trying to educate people.
@taigatanfan_
@taigatanfan_ 5 жыл бұрын
PyroShayNiac you aren’t being pretty educational acting like an ignorant fool pretending that these basic things have some exotic and interesting names. More like making a fool out of yourself for not researching the translation of the words 💁🏼‍♀️. I mean we are totally in the wrong for pointing that out, right? 🙄
@pyroshayniac1090
@pyroshayniac1090 5 жыл бұрын
@@taigatanfan_ Uh, yeah. That's what I said.
@rachelharper1901
@rachelharper1901 4 жыл бұрын
She’s not criticizing the movie or the animators itself, she was asked to look at period movies, fiction or not, and to show us what it would look like if it was purely Norway, 1840s. It’s just for content or fun. At the end, she explains why the animators made the movie the way they did, and it wasn’t a bad thin
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 5 жыл бұрын
when she says things like "short-a" watch every scandi shudder. Skjorta is much more like an english "sh" crossed with a kind of "whoo" sound imo
@raynpark6166
@raynpark6166 5 жыл бұрын
You can't really expect someone who doesn't speak the language to pronounce it perfectly
@c0nnorisnotreal
@c0nnorisnotreal 5 жыл бұрын
Rayn K but the video literally calls her a fashion historian, she _should_ know how to pronounce these things properly
@raynpark6166
@raynpark6166 5 жыл бұрын
@@c0nnorisnotreal Yeah exactly. _Fashion historian_ NOT a linguist. Unless you're a total asshat, no one chastises foreigners for having a thick accent, so it's not exactly right to do that to her. Chances are, she's probably not even learning the language at all.
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 5 жыл бұрын
@@c0nnorisnotreal thANK you
@lamp3608
@lamp3608 4 жыл бұрын
Rayn K The Norwegian words she said in this video is just regular words that means skirts, etc. She could’ve said them in English so people watching the video can understand it better, but instead she kept on going with the Norwegian words and most importantly she can’t even pronounce it right
@dolphingoboop
@dolphingoboop 5 жыл бұрын
Please get a new artist for this, just please.
@shaunyjimenez9637
@shaunyjimenez9637 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@flyingdolphin1015
@flyingdolphin1015 5 жыл бұрын
I agree yes
@tj843
@tj843 5 жыл бұрын
The drawings are not professional.
@eliasborgan625
@eliasborgan625 5 жыл бұрын
The bodices in Norway when you were a bunad actually depends on where you are in Norway
@ItsEricaBeyetch
@ItsEricaBeyetch 5 жыл бұрын
the coronation outfit you drew looks so much better then the movie and so does anna
@Miss_K3k97
@Miss_K3k97 5 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why they didn’t take the full historically accurate route is because animation would be really hard having to deal with long hair, giant dresses, and capes.
@akirasaito1551
@akirasaito1551 5 жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one annoyed that they keep referring to traditional clothing as costumes
@dominiquethomas3775
@dominiquethomas3775 5 жыл бұрын
Costume doesn't always mean things like Halloween costumes. In this situation it means a set of clothes in a style typical of a particular country or historical period.
@akirasaito1551
@akirasaito1551 5 жыл бұрын
@@dominiquethomas3775 I know, but the immediate association for most people is Halloween or strange/weird clothes. I don't really like the connotation
@FlamyV
@FlamyV 5 жыл бұрын
Actually no, she means a set of clothes used in a movies/tv shows/commercials etc.(in this particular exam it is an animated movie, but still they have clothes on them) and she is apsolutely right. No matter the style or meaning of clothing, be it traditional clothing, uniforms of any sort or something in that lane, if used for a particular character in some production, it becomes a costume. It is not called 'Costume designer' for no reason.
@dominiquethomas3775
@dominiquethomas3775 5 жыл бұрын
@@akirasaito1551 I can see your prospectiv. But I have never heard of anyone having an issue with the term costume being used in that way. It's used so frequently in books and conversation about traditional clothing.
@aonairskies
@aonairskies 5 жыл бұрын
same
@niaranoctyrna3754
@niaranoctyrna3754 5 жыл бұрын
00:50 I deadass thought they were going to talk about the historical accuracy of Elsa’s ice stress and I was going to comment how ridiculous that was until this point 🤦🏾‍♀️
@colorbar.s
@colorbar.s 5 жыл бұрын
They did it well for a design that's supposed to sell dolls and costumes though
@aiyanaperry4016
@aiyanaperry4016 5 жыл бұрын
Did she say “something called horse hair”??????? Do people not typically know what horse hair is?
@AmatistaMoon
@AmatistaMoon 5 жыл бұрын
As a non-native English speaker who’s been learning for close to two decades, I can tell you I only found out earlier this year, and I’d be surprised if any of the people I know who didn’t study fashion knew themselves. Edit: Wait did you think they were talking about a horse’s hair, as in the actual animal’s? Because in that case, I’m afraid to tell you that’s *not* what that term means.
@sydneydelcolombo2532
@sydneydelcolombo2532 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂 the truth
@toastysock
@toastysock 4 жыл бұрын
It's not actual horse hair.
@IceDomo
@IceDomo 4 жыл бұрын
@@toastysock She said that to put pressure on the fact that it's not actually horse hair, since a lot of people watching this most likely doesn't know that.
@SHADOW1414
@SHADOW1414 4 жыл бұрын
If it's not actual horse hair what is it ?
@tennyoAMV
@tennyoAMV 5 жыл бұрын
It makes sense that Anna's boots weren't winter boots because it was supposed to be summer. It was Elsa's powers being out of control that made it so cold.
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 5 жыл бұрын
THAT NORWEGIAN PRONOUNCIATION THO..... *cringes in Scandinavian*
@lexisanoddperson8680
@lexisanoddperson8680 4 жыл бұрын
Can you blame her? She either said them on the spot or has never heard anyone (at least a Norwegian) say it out loud. There have been worse pronunciation fails.
@mehlodia9432
@mehlodia9432 4 жыл бұрын
Lexi The Queen Bean But she literally didn’t need to say the Norwegian, they’re all just basic terms that could’ve been translated
@madeline5134
@madeline5134 5 жыл бұрын
Everything seemed right to me except for the boots- he wouldn’t have had winter boots in the store because it was summer when everything turned frozen. Not trying to sound critical just an observation!
@lisaleyendekker8305
@lisaleyendekker8305 5 жыл бұрын
the trading post was like a "department store". they had only one in stock, kind of like when stores have so little winter coats in the summer but if you look around hard enough you might find one in a clearance aisle or something. that was the concept they were going for, i think.
@sugasarmyyy7437
@sugasarmyyy7437 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Literally no one: Glamour: “ThAtS iNcOrReCT”
@missm8067
@missm8067 4 жыл бұрын
Guys relax. Yes, it’s just a movie and yes, she’s checking the historical accuracy of a movie based on a fairytale, but there’s no need to be like “Oh she said this dress is pure fantasy in a movie with a talking snowman!” This video is just for fun and educational purposes.
@missm8067
@missm8067 4 жыл бұрын
On a side note: am I only one who’d wear Elsa’s chemise and drawers at 1:36 as pjs? They look SUPER comfy and cute.
@trondchristianhaug1429
@trondchristianhaug1429 5 жыл бұрын
"Bunad" is of Norway's most culturally and historical pieces of clothing (and it is still used in the most formal of settings in today's Norway). Thanks for calling it a "costume" 😂😂
@KathrynMoncoeurFilms
@KathrynMoncoeurFilms 5 жыл бұрын
Actually the word costume can also be used to describe a cultural/national dress, it's a secondary meaning.
@minam9851
@minam9851 5 жыл бұрын
Enig i at det var en del som skurra i denne videoen, MEN den korrekte engelske oversettelsen av nasjonaldrakt er faktisk "national costume" (selv om det høres rart ut). Hun har ikke noe alternativt ord å bruke (tro meg, jeg har lett i alle ordbøkene jeg har, evt "national dress" men det kan ikke brukes om bunader generelt, bare om det som faktisk kan klassifiseres som en type kjole).
@soniyatagirova-sirotkina1293
@soniyatagirova-sirotkina1293 5 жыл бұрын
I love these new “opinions you didn’t know you needed” videos that have been popping up on my recommended
@KittyCat-uw9rf
@KittyCat-uw9rf 5 жыл бұрын
I like the way you pronounce strømpe😂 1:58
@hedvigen7377
@hedvigen7377 5 жыл бұрын
Also the way she says «bunad»
@obi-wankenobi7579
@obi-wankenobi7579 5 жыл бұрын
When you are Norwegian and you are laughing of the way she said (Bunad) she said bunaad. I’m sorry, but I’m not trying to be offensive😂
@grobe6540
@grobe6540 5 жыл бұрын
nei nei😂 hun sa bOnaad👌
@gingerandnutmeg_99
@gingerandnutmeg_99 5 жыл бұрын
I've been binge watching all of these historically accurate fact-check videos for an hour now and I'm in love with this! Please keep making these! These are so cool, unique, and entertaining!!
@ellablack1933
@ellablack1933 5 жыл бұрын
Anna wasn’t wearing socks bc she was in a coronation during summer before she got those clothes in the cabin
@therum2951
@therum2951 5 жыл бұрын
"skjorta"? You mean skjorte? BIG difference.Unless you mean THAT shirt and not just shirt.
@abigailmaturana741
@abigailmaturana741 5 жыл бұрын
yay! theres more!!!! these are so amazing! i hope u have more like it 💖
@Bubblycosplays
@Bubblycosplays 5 жыл бұрын
Stockings in Norwegian is "strømper", shirt is "skjorte", skirt is "skjørt", but the skirt to the bunad is called "stakk" in Norwegian. I'm not complaining, but I'm a Norwegian myself and wanted to tell you that. BTW loved the video❤️
@nancyfenity9817
@nancyfenity9817 5 жыл бұрын
I certainly don't expect to see historically accurate costumes in a movie based on fantasy.
@katsnow9256
@katsnow9256 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought Anna was the younger frumpy sister with all the personality!! But Disney kind of dumbed her down for the last frozen movie!
@leeneedsfriends9843
@leeneedsfriends9843 5 жыл бұрын
I just thought I'd mention that the reason it isn't accurate is most disney princess' outfits are based off of what was deemed pretty at the time of release not the time set
@ashizuoka3736
@ashizuoka3736 5 жыл бұрын
You could mention it, or you could watch until the end of the video and hear the historian say it herself.
@ryukin_iii
@ryukin_iii 4 жыл бұрын
“So this dress is a total fantasy” *Ah yes but of course, the trolls, the living snowman, the girl with ice powers and the giant snow monster aren’t*
@psyffee3755
@psyffee3755 4 жыл бұрын
She wasn't expecting the movie to be realistic, it's the conclusion of the video.
@Mari-gf9lc
@Mari-gf9lc 4 жыл бұрын
I am Norwegian and when she tried to say "skjorte" i was like: Oof.... Because this was what i heard: "sjårta" It honestly would have been better if she just said it in English.
@madyalvarez428
@madyalvarez428 5 жыл бұрын
Anna's outfit in Frozen Fever is much more accurate (but still not entirely), I think.
@Hello-sm1yw
@Hello-sm1yw 5 жыл бұрын
i am going to be completely honest , Frozen Creators/ Disney did not do anything wrong. They designed it how they wanted to , so I don't think that this should be a thing.
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