Why Comme des Garcons is So Confusing

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Fashionlover4

Fashionlover4

Күн бұрын

I have nothing to say in the description today. I wonder how many people read it each time lol, sorry to disappoint.
Articles read for this video:
www.vogue.com/...
www.theguardia...
www.vogue.com/...
www.anothermag...
www.dezeen.com...
www.interviewm...
www.vogue.com/...
www.ft.com/con...
If you want more info about Rei's work in the 80s and 90s, I found this scanned book all about it : www.archivepdf...
I didn't get the chance to read it before this video but I will read it now.
LINKS : linktr.ee/hotf...
PATREON : / fashionlover4
P.S I got someone to edit my patreon video this week and looks like it won't be out on time for this video's release, sorry, it'll be out tomorrow.

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@understitchYT
@understitchYT 2 жыл бұрын
And for the record, I always read the description boxes, I usually love to read how a creator summises their work
@therealmvpee
@therealmvpee 2 жыл бұрын
I read details
@ntandoyenkosimlaba7303
@ntandoyenkosimlaba7303 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is dope
@Willemdreess
@Willemdreess 2 жыл бұрын
You are just a guy in a room expressing your thoughts. But then again, they are extremely well-thought-out and well-versed thoughts/information/opinions that do not feel forced in any way possible. They're purely informative and you do an amazing job of summarizing the articles found in the description. I really like listening to you and the approach you take to fashion journalism. Happy I found your channel and I am looking forward to you next video.
@Dajuanvisionary
@Dajuanvisionary 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯
@kristinb4010
@kristinb4010 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most satisfying comments I have read online.
@a.ffirmative
@a.ffirmative 2 жыл бұрын
I think the inconsistency between collections is the consistency of Comme des Garcons
@megorly792
@megorly792 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so joyous that someone finally recognized how digital fashion takes the magic out of traditional fashion.
@arisha_bitk
@arisha_bitk Жыл бұрын
Я в мохнатые года смотрела "тед" и там говорили что сигарета 🚬 идеальное изобретение из-за того, что она вещественна, ее можно потрогать, она пахнет, она горит Мне кажется с модой тоже самое. Рей права.
@astravism956
@astravism956 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. Im japanese. I'm studying haute couture history and ready-to-wear(pronto da indossare). There are few videos that explain ready-to-wear. I can't thank you enough.
@johnhobbs621
@johnhobbs621 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a visual artist and in the past studied both fashion and photography. You make a whole lot of sense here, as soon as you allow others to pull and push you, to be influenced by other work and artists, to listen to criticism then you are not making your work. I'm fascinated by Rei, somehow she's remained untouched, here is a pure expression, I see her work as soft sculpture on bodies. I find what is fashionable or fashion so interesting, an x element beyond the idea or construction, a desirability, an excitement surrounding something new. Thank you for sharing some fascinating ideas.
@2emo868
@2emo868 2 жыл бұрын
Glad that you mentioned cdg's incredible advertisements. Some of my favorites don't even show the clothing, or people even. I think a lot fashion photography and advertising is pretty bland and uninteresting these days. It would be refreshing to see more brands push the boundaries of what fashion photography and campaigns can be.
@JAE-li9vw
@JAE-li9vw 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you touched on the novelty Rei strives for and how in fashion, especially, it is very refreshing to see creativity without reference points. I am now realizing the strength of these recent collections and how they rely on their ability to make a statement that appeals to the unknown and uncomfortable. You don’t miss 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻
@koala5992
@koala5992 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that transition was the cleanest ever, love the content very informative
@zacstarkey1369
@zacstarkey1369 2 жыл бұрын
My tutor that’s doing his ma at csm said same thing about going finding your own research through reading opposed to any technology it’s so true that everyone is just influenced by the same thing reason why Pinterest is evil in that respect
@zacstarkey1369
@zacstarkey1369 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf he’s not the first but it’s much more diligent now than prior teachers
@zacstarkey1369
@zacstarkey1369 2 жыл бұрын
It does create the best results for anyone tho it’s a day and night difference in historical data consumption, people before 2000 didn’t have the internet so any history good chance the people righting about their times did it in their book of choice it’s like airplane is a completely different style of comedy to any comedy today that well we might not ever see anything like that again
@zacstarkey1369
@zacstarkey1369 2 жыл бұрын
Bit of a tangent
@san1883
@san1883 Жыл бұрын
@@zacstarkey1369 bro, ever heard of punctuation?
@aaronvangoethem8764
@aaronvangoethem8764 2 жыл бұрын
Man I really like your way of viewing the world (of fashion) and I’m thoroughly enjoying your videos. Especially the last part about everyone becoming the same is resonating heavily. Please keep making these cause they aren’t only therapeutically beneficial for you but I’m sure many others that share your point of views. Love from Belgium!
@ikuesonopium465
@ikuesonopium465 2 жыл бұрын
The source of creativity of rei you analyses is correct I do feel like that too when I studied geography about 1st source of whatever then to 2nd as money or food, then 3rd is architectures, etc… very solid bro! I had that idea for that such a long time for rei but I don’t know how to articulate it to make people understand.
@garyvanliew2689
@garyvanliew2689 2 жыл бұрын
I love your perspective. Rei and Yohji were the most daring designers during my first years in NY. Keep creating and voicing your opinion.
@inkarlcerating
@inkarlcerating 2 жыл бұрын
i love that quote from Another Magazine! Glad you mentioned it. I remember staring at the page when I read it for the first time. She rarely does interview so it was a special issue! ❤️❤️😊
@kiyoshi2929
@kiyoshi2929 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the honesty in this video, by far the most interesting and thought provoking you've made. tytyty 🤩
@Guestyyyyy
@Guestyyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
I did not realise how much he channel has grown love ur vids man
@thenatalianaeem
@thenatalianaeem 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Your last few statements about orginality and creativity are super important and definitely something a lot of people, including me lmao, need to be reminded of!
@ginevrafratto
@ginevrafratto Жыл бұрын
I love how much research there's in every single one of your videos, love them
@chunheiii425
@chunheiii425 2 жыл бұрын
Bro trolling French in every video💀
@gtg488w
@gtg488w 2 жыл бұрын
One of the later points you noted, about globalization, and how we are all using the same reference points, influences in all of ur thought processes, how we should try things outside of Pinterest and other obvious “inspirational” sources - I would love to hear more on what you think about this. I’ve been struggling to rework my personal style to fit myself better lately. Because it’s just like, idk, I think it’s bc of how social media and endless access is set up, my style has become more scattered, like oh I like this this this this this this this and this. But it’s not cohesive, it’s not telling a story (my story) anymore, unless by accident. But I used to do this naturally. Before there were endless scrolling and seeking options
@ciko7064
@ciko7064 2 жыл бұрын
I think cdg play is exactly what it needs to be. If it was anymore in-depth it would be too mainline
@whenitcomesalive
@whenitcomesalive 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like instead of trying to understand Rei’s work we instead just understand it as just Rei, for example if another fashion designer does something like Rei’s work we can just call it rei Basically making Rei a term in fashion for kawakubo’s work
@asunkenp1ace
@asunkenp1ace 2 жыл бұрын
i learn a lot about perspective with every one of your videos
@mgu1N1n1
@mgu1N1n1 Жыл бұрын
Men, do not hesitate for one moment to put a restraining order against your female partner if you feel your safety and health is in jeopardy. Placing a permanent restraining order on my female partner was absolutely the wisest protective move of my adult lifetime. My only regret is not doing it years earlier. Men, be safe!
@matelorincz4141
@matelorincz4141 2 жыл бұрын
quickly became my fav channel. great vid!
@charliewithachance
@charliewithachance 2 жыл бұрын
That impression was so spot on tho omg he got the inflection just right lol
@GuyPlaystation
@GuyPlaystation 2 жыл бұрын
would love to hear your thoughts on Prada (past and present) and Miuccia Prada in a similar format
@pedrobarbosaduarte3704
@pedrobarbosaduarte3704 Жыл бұрын
1:29 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH THE VOICES ARE BACK
@Bedxgamer
@Bedxgamer 2 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting ! I’m not into fashion but I feel cdg speaks to something into my soul.
@bbbrendi
@bbbrendi 2 жыл бұрын
i'm obsessed with this video
@anuradhajaishankar7903
@anuradhajaishankar7903 Жыл бұрын
DIS-satisfaction. DIS-comfort . not UN-satisfaction or UN-comfort. LOVE your videos by the way!
@nylepatel9243
@nylepatel9243 2 жыл бұрын
great video man appreciate your honest take
@Devananta-Rafiq
@Devananta-Rafiq 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite fashion youtuber makes video about my favorite brand. I'm not worthy😭😭
@rotondwamirenzheni1322
@rotondwamirenzheni1322 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to do a dedicated video about the karasu zoku era...but idk you're the boss😂😅
@suzannegolden8727
@suzannegolden8727 2 жыл бұрын
What a surprise to see a picture of me in the beginning of your video and then a second time...;
@pamelawillett6065
@pamelawillett6065 2 жыл бұрын
I love COMME DES GARCON. I have been wearing COMME DES GARCON since the 1990's. I enjoyed your video.
@coolman000099
@coolman000099 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone stop! Fashionlover4 posted!🥰
@devonstoomuch
@devonstoomuch 2 жыл бұрын
i fw your channel bro. reminds me of frugal aesthetics. thats a complement.
@bittybuta3756
@bittybuta3756 2 жыл бұрын
i know little to nothing abt fashion, so your videos are very interesting !
@iamb34
@iamb34 2 жыл бұрын
your voice is very soothing
@AnonYmous-fz2ix
@AnonYmous-fz2ix 2 жыл бұрын
Saving this video… fire
@Whodnl
@Whodnl 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes another day another fashion lover 4 prime content
@sonheunglam
@sonheunglam 2 жыл бұрын
Babe wake up new fashionlover4 dropped
@dizonaurdizonaur2914
@dizonaurdizonaur2914 2 жыл бұрын
the amount of people looking at these shows through their phone camera is terrifying
@nitrovlox
@nitrovlox 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this. Thank you. ❤
@largeshaftzac8027
@largeshaftzac8027 2 жыл бұрын
Rei an underrated sigma tbh
@adlfmg9622
@adlfmg9622 2 жыл бұрын
Comme des garncons (like the boys)
@franklinwhiteman9391
@franklinwhiteman9391 2 жыл бұрын
big fan of your vids! Raf and rick when?????????
@deanmarshallshalabi
@deanmarshallshalabi 2 жыл бұрын
YES HES BACK
@arimelmon780
@arimelmon780 2 жыл бұрын
this man needs 10 minutes with me
@neelchandran6018
@neelchandran6018 2 жыл бұрын
loic intro went crazy
@ciko7064
@ciko7064 2 жыл бұрын
Deleting social media and diving deep into extreme peculiar media
@anamariapolgar5146
@anamariapolgar5146 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice video!
@tamperehotline
@tamperehotline 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I don't know how much other "media" than fashion you consume, but here's an idea for a video. Any charachters from tv/film/anime/whatever whose style you really like?
@TheGrifhinx
@TheGrifhinx Жыл бұрын
What looks to be very conflicting about Rei's mindset is that it is virtually impossible for a human being to produce an original thought from a void (or the void, whatever). A mind needs to process things in order to arrive at a thought, and that just simply means that the mind received input from somewhere - it had a reference. While it's definitely much much more understandable now with Rei's frustration of not achieving pure blissful unreferenced creative naivete, it would still not sound wise for her to willfully blind herself from the fact her work seems to still manage to have connections and associations to various places and aspects in reality, even if she wants to believe they have come to her from nowhere. In this case, it would probably come off as just a coincidence, but at that point, it just sounds like pretentiousness being excused collection after collection.
@RucidaBlackletter
@RucidaBlackletter 2 жыл бұрын
wow, there is an equivalent to outsider art in music, called outsider music in fact, similar description where these people know nothing about music and go ahead to make music, very interesting. i find the knowledge of this to be very helpful in music making or life in general, to know that nothing you can make in its entirety can truly be completely original
@Redrios
@Redrios Жыл бұрын
avant garde by definition if there was one
@oxiary
@oxiary 2 жыл бұрын
LOIC THE GOAT
@MingusDynastyy
@MingusDynastyy 2 жыл бұрын
It's so hard for me to find cdg pieces I like >.> (affordable)
@deocharismostrales4142
@deocharismostrales4142 2 жыл бұрын
not to be #thatguy and I know this is extremely tangential to your point but... arguably, there *is* an aesthetic dimension to selection factors in evolution. Take the example that you used: flowers. They evolved to disperse genetic material with the help of a pollinator species so the color and scents they have developed in tandem to what attracts a specific animal. To the point, where orchids sometimes mimic a sexed member of a species to seduce the opposite sex! how can flowers seduce if they don't have taste!??
@zacstarkey1369
@zacstarkey1369 2 жыл бұрын
Is she not just critiqing her own work for the result being the future evolution
@dsjk209
@dsjk209 2 жыл бұрын
Your Chanel is awesum
@hamtion4347
@hamtion4347 2 жыл бұрын
legit know fuck all about fashion but ur vids are interesting af
@bangchanswebbrowsinghistor5145
@bangchanswebbrowsinghistor5145 2 жыл бұрын
not the still picture of Loic Prigent 😞🤣
@harisawan6347
@harisawan6347 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOUU
@umita3902
@umita3902 2 жыл бұрын
I have found my soulmate, only she's born about 60 years and one day before me
@takemeseriouslynt
@takemeseriouslynt 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I discover comme des garcons is not French. I never really tried to discover or even search for it but it seemed so obvious,
@arisha_bitk
@arisha_bitk Жыл бұрын
Я впервые узнала о "Comme Des Garcons" буквально месяц назад, в обзоре одного блоггера, они гребанные гении 🦹я пересматриваю показы мне прямо по кайфу😅 Comme Des Garcons имхо сейчас просто лучшее😍 Йоджи знала более 10 лет, но он как-то слишком мрачный😢 а Рей - прям самый сок😍
@mariamadele
@mariamadele 2 жыл бұрын
10/10 loic impression
@conord5043
@conord5043 2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@17388
@17388 Жыл бұрын
i think your most poignant critique..or rather..thought in this video is the phrase "deeply unsatisfying comfort." i think this will echo in my brain for some time.
@scarlettdamante4945
@scarlettdamante4945 Жыл бұрын
"There is no pleasure in the work" Well she has succeeded. Not a single piece shown brought me any joy or enjoyment. There was a couple silhouettes that were pleasant if you ignore every other element at play from texture to pattern. I like the sound of her as a person a lot, she sounds strong, interesting, and comforting in a way as a person. But her work is...I don't see a point to its existence. I dislike it all and find it ugly in an uninteresting way. I wonder how she would feel about this? Its fascinating to really love someone's vision & voice (what she expresses in the interviews she hates doing) and not enjoy their work. Maybe that's part of its point and the new experience it brings.
@zippovu
@zippovu 2 жыл бұрын
interesting endpoint
@CatHostage
@CatHostage Жыл бұрын
2:10 anyone else try the QR code out of curiosity or just me?
@seeexy
@seeexy Жыл бұрын
its rly niice to listen
@awesomeness24x7
@awesomeness24x7 2 жыл бұрын
Serafini was just very high while creating his codex lol
@alphadream953
@alphadream953 2 жыл бұрын
i like this guy
@KaTheMagician
@KaTheMagician Жыл бұрын
She has been the best before I even really understood clothes I remember the first time I saw her work (knew nothing about her) I connected instantly on a spiritual level and called her mom in my head lol... I stopped wearing Play in 2008 and won't comment on that part of the brand bcuz the thought of Hypebeast or w/e consuming Rei's work and output actually does trigger me (funny I'm not a gatekeeper or snob with anything else not even things like hamcus, basketcase, etc...) I remember walking into Dover Street in Hamcus and some other shxt and basically almost getting hired on the spot... then about a year or 2 later while sleeping on the floor I thought to myself it would be really cool if I could work there and got called in for an interview the next day off a craigslist ad lol (retail is an insult to my type of brain output but if I was going to be in retail anywhere then I had no problem taking it on the chin at DSM) I came with an actual piece of quality creative work about 4 by 4 feet (I ended up selling at a later date for 4 figures+ not bad for the underdog) and an outfit that said I know more about clothes than you do/hire me I was so excited I could barely form any sentences and bombed lmao I have a tumultuous relationship with DSM but still smile like a kid in a candy store every time I'm there. I think if I met her I would break down was a bit teary-eyed watching this but as a natural creative I can't help it she's done so much for all of us regardless of our medium. Thank You, Rei. 🙏🏾
@kast4092
@kast4092 2 жыл бұрын
loved this video but i really feel like you cannot mention granny Rei without mentioning Yohji at least for the early years and collections i feel like understanding rei completely if someone tried they would need to touch on yohji as well and especially at the time when their views started shifting like rei focus on the new and yohji looking to the past for inspo or rei dubbing red the new black and making a statement towards yohji
@modalsahil9999
@modalsahil9999 2 жыл бұрын
This video makes me wanna get heart shoe
@sjajajjbsbdbdhwi9057
@sjajajjbsbdbdhwi9057 2 жыл бұрын
this video is bussin (bussin is short for busting)
@mikiohirata9627
@mikiohirata9627 Жыл бұрын
Wow I have no words. This isn't fashion and I don't think she wants anyone to think it is. Reminds me of that schitzofrenic Yayoi Kusama with bright colored polka dots arts and also on the other end of spectrum from Rei, Iris Van Perin whose work is fantastic in kinetic art sense but mostly unwearable in true sense of clothing. These are truly creepy and wired stuff that should be shown in modern art musicum next to Picasso or something.
@sams3015
@sams3015 2 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant video! Are you a fellow Irishman by any chance?
@farinshore8900
@farinshore8900 Ай бұрын
What's confusing about her work?
@venezoom
@venezoom Жыл бұрын
Complacency in confort is the mother of all stagnation, Rei Kawakubo is the living example of that theory, uncompromising, unique, challenging, confronting and raw like the finishings of her garments, utterly beautiful in all it's imperfection and ugliness, she is the real embodiment of what art should be, looking at the past without referencing it or as a source of inspiration ......................kudos to your work and insights, you have indeed a bright future, extremely refreshing to see a young person like yourself having such an understanding and grasp of the fashion industry .................Congratulations indeed.
@4ceciliaa
@4ceciliaa 2 жыл бұрын
dope asf
@lindanorris2455
@lindanorris2455 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT TH E"f" IS THAT MESS? FLORAL HAT, GREY LINT UPSIDE UMBRELLA ON HER COAT? WHAT A MESS!
@sandrinooo
@sandrinooo 2 жыл бұрын
so true
@estefaniavelazquezbarrios7948
@estefaniavelazquezbarrios7948 2 жыл бұрын
Very disappointed for the description of the video
@FACEOFAMERICA512
@FACEOFAMERICA512 2 жыл бұрын
Help me start clothing line
@ayodeledavid3034
@ayodeledavid3034 2 жыл бұрын
Bro what you need for your clothing line, graphics?
@FACEOFAMERICA512
@FACEOFAMERICA512 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayodeledavid3034 yes sir bro, I need ideas from other brains as well ! Leave ur contact info if u can help
@zacstarkey1369
@zacstarkey1369 2 жыл бұрын
Needed 12:40
@pseudo148
@pseudo148 2 жыл бұрын
This might be too corny (perhaps to the point of impossibility) but it would be awesome content if you vlogged going to a fashion show
@zacstarkey1369
@zacstarkey1369 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes 7:53
@LawrenceHe
@LawrenceHe 2 жыл бұрын
sigh i really want to hear his thoughts on kanye but dont want to pay the $5.50 for patreon
@slacks100
@slacks100 2 жыл бұрын
Sustainable Clothing is The New Black. ( ahh Push It )
@4ceciliaa
@4ceciliaa 2 жыл бұрын
lit
@aadeshsurujballi9951
@aadeshsurujballi9951 2 жыл бұрын
WHATS THE FLEECE U ARE WEARING ?!?!?!?!??!?
@daediaz186
@daediaz186 Жыл бұрын
It's not about what the world wants - it's about what works for the system. This vid is missing the political aspect of what it's analyzed.
@diegomendoza8707
@diegomendoza8707 2 жыл бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉
@jacknjill3000
@jacknjill3000 2 жыл бұрын
Comme deeee Garçon.
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