RED ALERT! Red Arrows are DISAPPEARING in 2030!

[@Tony-c6f2j]

The way things are going we will lucky to have an RAF by 2030 let alone the Red Arrows…

[@tonykennedy8483]

Let's be honest, we'll be lucky to have a country worth living in

[@TPT6148]

They'll be the Black Arrows by then!

[@DW-dd4iw]

The RAF will have to bring their Gipsy Moth's out of storage to bolster Britain's air defences very soon.

[@karlgreene2177]

Or the Gnats.

[@robhartley3930]

That will be a good thing, less annoying crabs.

[@Wd-k8d]

Anything we are proud of is getting cancelled.

[@peterCrane-u4b]

preparing the UK for a future muslim caliphate methinks!!!!

[@GilbertdeClare0704]

Including our MEMORIES of when everything was safer and our children were relatively safe

[@silverbullet2008bb]

@@GilbertdeClare0704 We are going the way of the Rhodesians.

[@jimhiggins3962]

With things we are not proud of, but labelled so. 😢

[@D0csavage1]

What a dire situation Britain is in.

[@JohnBuckers]

Because 98% of its "men" aren't MEN anymore.

[@PG-yc9by]

Of think the uk’s, wait till you see the state of Canada.

[@paulmckinley2908]

Is it in a dire situation though ,really? Compared to when? I took an elderly relative to an appointment at an NHS hospital two days ago. Free of charge (apart from the car parking). Seen promptly and out. Drove home. Roads were busy but functioned and worked. Street lights. Many, many expensive cars about. In peace. No gun battles. Passed shops full of food, rammed full of shoppers...listening to the BBC (impartial news) listening to people who are free to criticise Starmer, Farage et al.....and on and on. Britons need to give themselves a break from the incessant gloom they heap upon themselves.

[@sandwichbar8226]

More of our history being systematically dismantled.

[@Welshman007]

We will have a Middle Eastern arrow soon ..

[@NewWorldHoarder]

Shitty and blatant.

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

It's too British, and therefore bad and wrong.

[@Jimmythefish577]

They were formed in 1964, not exactly a legacy unit.

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

@@Jimmythefish577 It was difficult to get them formed in 1928 due to the lack of jet aircraft.

[@nigelsnell9770]

Do you remember those wonderful days when Britain could build its own aircraft , tanks and ships. Now we are have no ability to defend the Country, so much for defence cuts !.😱😱

[@GilbertdeClare0704]

As a little lad in the 1950s with a Dad who had fought in the BoB, I vividly remember comparing the B52 with our Vulcan and Victor ; F86 with the Hunter and Swift, F100 & F101 with our Lightning etc. Even as a 6 year old, it was OBVIOUS who led the World. UNTIL our wonderful Labour Government and Anthony Wedgewood Benn destroyed our Aviation Industry

[@MasterChief37]

You still build your own tanks and ship.

[@prestoncrewnarrowboaters8619]

​@@MasterChief37ha ha have a look at the numbers.i recall when Blair was priminister a whole load of brand new aircraft were dismantled, having never flown.

[@whtalt92]

@@prestoncrewnarrowboaters8619 Which ones? Needs references.

[@prestoncrewnarrowboaters8619]

@@whtalt92 I vaguely recall they were sub hunters ,but I might have that wrong

[@JoeBlowUK]

The problem is the Red Arrows are typically British... of course they will be gone, along with every other of our great traditions.

[@dungareesareforfools]

They're representative of our colonial patriarchy. And they look a little phallic too.

[@TheBelrick]

Yep, every once western nation faces the same issue. As the people disappear, so to do our traditions and our nations abilities because we are the nations. It doesn't matter how much BBC or netflix covers up this reality by showing other people's in British clothing, they are not and never will be, British.

[@brianjones4026]

how long have rhese boys got ! The Red Devils are an elite unit of the British Army Parachute Regiment. The 15 members are highly-skilled paratroopers chosen through a rigorous selection process. Competition for a place on the team is fierce, and it’s an honour to be selected.

[@peterk2455]

Replaced by a diverse dance team?

[@peterCrane-u4b]

preparing the UK for a future muslim caliphate methinks!!!!

[@jfilm7466]

I miss the Red Arrows, The Red Devils with the Spitfires and Lancasters flying over. The sound of the Spitfires shall forever live in my heart.

[@chrisj5097]

Do you actually think the 🇬🇧gov is going to spend a single penny on British pride. It will been deemed as far right 😂

[@coggers410]

Too many foreign mouths to feed!

[@Paul-hl8yg]

Spot on! How they can get away with such slander is beyond me.

[@NewWorldHoarder]

@@chrisj5097 it’ll be going on diversity causes, and the ‘other’ type of pride.

[@whtalt92]

Sooo... who exactly was in charge for most of the last 20 years?

[@Paul-hl8yg]

@@whtalt92 All/both the main parties are as bad as each other. Labour in power now however, is like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire!

[@daveinchina]

British culture will all be gone by 2030. By order of the WEF. Love Claus

[@janice2992]

Jesus is coming soon he will put a stop to their plans.

[@Anglo-Saxon-hh2pb]

More like the owner of Allan’s snack bar who’s apparently coming ,judging by the state of our city’s and towns .

[@ange1098]

@janice2992I don’t think so.

[@philhawley1219]

@janice2992 Well he's been taking his fucking time for the last fifty years. Is he also in charge of HS2?

[@janice2992]

@@daveinchina Anyone that can leave will leave. UK will be an Isis hell hole.

[@timpgpilot2530]

2030! That year pops up a lot these days 🤔

[@suewright3345]

Agenda 2030...

[@timpgpilot2530]

@suewright3345 Formally known as 'Agenda 21' (United Nations)

[@timpgpilot2530]

@suewright3345 UN Agenda 21/Agenda 30/Pact for the Future

[@timpgpilot2530]

@suewright3345 UN Agenda 21, Agenda 30, Pact for the Future

[@timpgpilot2530]

@@suewright3345 I've tried to comment four times in response, but YT doesn't like me mentioning the 'You nighted Nations' 🤔

[@andrewmann3787]

You could always have the flying carpets instead

[@petergleave7807]

Nice one! I like it!

[@angryofmayfair7091]

More like the flying dinghys. 😂😂😂

[@Obliv69]

ali baba would be proud ! *salutes*

[@seanwhitfield4581]

It was the folland gnat when I started watching the Red Arrows 😊

[@PhilipBallGarry]

Me too 😊

[@elskernorge0517]

@@PhilipBallGarryYes. Remember the Yellow Jacks?

[@bobroberts6155]

As a kid I witnessed the Red Arrows being introduced to the Hawk at RAF Coltishall. The team were there with their Gnats and a bunch of senior officers. My Dad (ex Lancaster aircrew) had taken me and my Mum (who had been promised a cream tea to compensate for the boys day out) to the base to where the Hawker test pilot was due to fly in the Hawk which he duly did, giving a nice display before landing and emerging in a white flying suit, those were the days! The Red Arrows then started up the Gnats and gave a fantastic display. All this took so long that while I gained a wonderful experience my Mum never got her cream tea.

[@seanwhitfield4581]

Thats a lovely story and must be a fond memory 👍​@@bobroberts6155

[@SINEproject]

Looks like they are disappearing a lot by 2030, including us.

[@wideyxyz2271]

Your not going to fight then?

[@SINEproject]

@wideyxyz2271 I fought for most of my life. As an ex serviceman of 10 years and 7 tours in the British army. I then went on to fight by spreading truth from 2010. Then the same government i fought for came for me in the most harshest of manners because i was exposing the reality of our situation and waking veterans. If you watch my content. You will find I am still fighting.

[@Brookspirit]

The UK is regressing at an astonishing rate, we need someone to turn this country around before it's too late.

[@paulmckinley2908]

Because some 44 year old jets are coming to their end of life? Give over. Far more important things need to be addressed.

[@ralphwilmot6351]

Possibly the RAF will be gone by 2030 with this WEF lot

[@fordwrc2006]

@@ralphwilmot6351 They don’t need an airforce really, do we? Where’s the threat?

[@janettetaylor8760]

We all b gone if the WEF ever get in they kill us all of no Brit Navtie left

[@ralphwilmot6351]

@@fordwrc2006 Yes I guess you may be correct

[@stevem-h3562]

@@fordwrc2006 well, apparently Russia is supposed to be invading all of Europe, if the cause behind fighting to the last Ukranian is true......

[@fordwrc2006]

@@stevem-h3562 Russia is only interested in Novorossiya. The whole take over Europe and re start the USSR is just a western propaganda tool to justify giving money to Ukraine for the NATO proxy war.

[@bionicnichola9251]

That's sad. The red arrows are so symbolic of our country. Love them.

[@johnnunn8688]

If the Red’s aircraft can’t be replaced with a British-made aircraft, then there’s no point the team existing.

[@johnchristmas7522]

News for you, name a British Built Aircraft today? Can't well that because they were all built decades ago before the government of the day decided we would only need rockets! All our Aircraft are either American or European built. We dont have a aircraft building company anymore. Plus Miliband believes they are not green so must be got rid of. Cars next

[@slickstrings]

The point of the team is a recruitment tool. Not an aircraft sales advertisement

[@paulbrookes5365]

@@slickstrings It represents British engineering, you weren't listening.

[@johnnunn8688]

@@slickstrings you know nothing.

[@langdalepaul]

@@johnnunn8688 no, you know nothing. How can a design that is 50 years old and that is no longer being made represent current British engineering excellence? “Hey everyone, buy British aircraft, like this Hawk T1 that was designed in 1970 and stopped production 8 years ago!”

[@MrBobDobaline]

There will be nothing left in this awful country soon.

[@wowbaggertheinfinitelyprol6262]

So what are you going to do about it? Sitting there moaning on KZbin is not an option!

[@MrBobDobaline]

@@wowbaggertheinfinitelyprol6262 I don't actually think there is a way back from all this crap now, because the Government, Media, Judiciary, Healthcare, Education, and everything else is all following the same sinister agenda now, and we probably have to go through the painful part just to come out of the other side stronger if we are lucky.

[@aleabdalla77]

@@MrBobDobaline yup. It's probably over for the UK.

[@mikedignum1868]

I'm old enough to remember the Gnat in the Arrows. There is still one at North Weald that flies now and again.

[@mikedignum1868]

@@delakota555 Yep

[@delakota555]

@@mikedignum1868 I can't believe that you have a photo of you standing next to it with just a sock covering your modesty. That's so funny. I wouldn't have the guts to do this. Was this for a bet or something? 👍

[@paulmartin4168]

Also Hunter and Jet Provost display teams.......

[@neilfoster814]

With Ray Hanna as 'Red 1'.

[@Waynep1066]

That 2030 year date again. It doesn't surprise me in the least.

[@asumazilla]

Why, what's happening in 2030?

[@alanparis8946]

@@asumazillaagenda 2030 look it up

[@oliver2629]

​@@asumazilla You been living under a rock the last 5 years?

[@reccerat4446]

Tim, let's face it, our Armed Forces in general has and will be decimated!

[@brettwilson7155]

Get all the Hunters Airworthy and bring back the Black Arrows of Treble One ...... The perfect shape aircraft for formation aerobatics 😊

[@stevem-h3562]

Its been on the cards for years. By the time we get to 2030, there'll be no RAF left. Much less one that there'll be a need for such a high profile recruiting tool like the Reds.

[@goosejuice27]

why will the raf disappear?

[@stevem-h3562]

@goosejuice27 Lack of personnel, lack of money, lack of leadership, lack of mission. Its been squeezed in every single way from above to the point where it is too small to be effective to do anything apart from for show. The RAF will end up being about as big and as important as the irish Air Force or the Belgian Air Force. All it will be, will be to be a a cash cow for BAe.

[@tonyjones7372]

Lets scrap the Red Arrows and spend the money on more free hotels.

[@chromiumphotography5138]

Or scrap overseas aid, anything to do with illegal economic migrants and woke green hogwash.

[@CrashRacer69]

I think that a strong probability…

[@a.j.b.8658]

Ooohhh can we stay in hotels for free???!! No wait.. 🤔 No. 'We' cannot.

[@Starmerispureevil]

The hotels will be all full before 2030…then they will come for your homes

[@tonyjones7372]

@@Starmerispureevil That's definitely the plan, and will that finally wake up middle England to what has been happening for last 30 years?

[@stuartmenziesfarrant]

Happy new year Tim!

[@therocinante3443]

Im convinced they just want to take away all things that make us happy.

[@mrtoastie3681]

The wef motto is literally you will have nothing and be happy. Exept you obviously wont be happy

[@robertthomas3777]

‘You vill haft nutting unce be hippi - yah’. Not a chance. 🦘🇦🇺👍

[@petergleave7807]

⁠@@mrtoastie3681Don’t forget ‘Satan Klaws’*’Swab’*(Founder unt* ‘Fewer…er…’* of ‘Zer Vorld Economic Forum’, Zer “Grate”* Re set, unt ‘Zer Forss* Industrial Revolution’)’s full quote about “owning nozzing unt (being) happy’ ** * (sic) **and his adjuration regarding “(eating) eating zer bugs”***, of course! *** The farming of insects such as mealworms and crickets for human consumption was approved by the European Commission in 2024.

[@R0d_1984]

We are well into the *demoralization* stage of the R-Placement...

[@OldskoolCatflap]

A demoralised population is less likely to fight back.

[@andrewraine8207]

No Air Shows in 15 minute cities.

[@billb7876]

And you "will" be happy, according to Klause

[@Tom_Hadler]

I believe it was Sunderland thst cancelled their airshow ostensibly ostensibly climate change reasons. Which is absurd. Might have just been cost cutting. Either way, your little joke is not far from reality after all!

[@fionareed9884]

We can always fly paper planes at 1 another! 🤣 Jus need a bit of humour as it's a sad state of affairs wots going on here & globally 🇬🇧 🌍😢🙏

[@janice2992]

@@billb7876 🦗🍽️

[@MeYou-yz2yz]

@@billb7876 Klaus can take everything I own but he can't stop me farting.

[@WayneMyers-jn4gx]

From world leaders in aviation to f all!

[@stevem-h3562]

Exactly as per the plan.

[@apistodiscus]

When was the UK ever a world leader in aviation? The delusion continues .

[@stevem-h3562]

@@apistodiscus the late 1940s and early 1950s.

[@paulmckinley2908]

@@apistodiscus Any time after 1945 until probably the late 1960s. I could list some of the aircraft if that helps you?. Vulcan, Victor and Valiant in nuclear bombers alone. So yes, a world leader.

[@apistodiscus]

@paulmckinley2908 the Amercans were ahead of the UK at that stage. The Americans didn't require a plane like the Vulcan to deliver nuclear free fall bombs as they already had stand-off weapons that didn't require their bombers to penetrate Soviet airspace. Are you forgetting the B-47 and B-50. More than equal to the Victor and Valiant

[@paulyflyer8154]

Everyone and everything will be disappearing in 2030.

[@NicholasStreet]

I think the BBMFs days are numbered as well. 😢

[@Teecee-y8m]

Hope not. A Lancaster with a Spitfire on each wing flew low right above my place last year. Then it turned away came around and flew over again !! Swear you could feel the sound of those 6 Merlins. What a treat

[@billb7876]

WEFminster have numbered all of our days. You will have nothing and be happy

[@smittykoi]

Haha you always know the sound of the lanc or spitfire

[@chromiumphotography5138]

​@@smittykoiShame there isn't a flying Mossie in this country.

[@brunel23]

I think one is being restored, not sure though.

[@hupra72]

Having twice been in a Hawk (1995 & 2010), I can tell you this is a kick-arse ride. It's brilliant to be thrown around the sky like a tennis ball. The Hawk Arrows will be sorely missed. Stand down, ladies, you've done your duty!

[@johnchristmas7522]

Thats at least 14 years old!

[@Templeborough]

I can disclose that as a cost-cutting measure the Red Arrows will be reduced to just one aircraft, becoming the world's first single-aircraft air acrobatic team.

[@lauran880]

I used to go to the wonderful Sunderland airshow with my family and was in awe of the arrows flying over land and sea. So impressive. Then covid came and a good excuse to cancel the show. And then in October 2022 Sunderland City Council announced that it had "no plans" to hold the airshow again, after officially cancelling the 2023 airshow, citing the "global climate emergency" and the city’s desire to be carbon neutral by 2040. So sad. Let's have a parade instead.

[@Laidback61]

Yes - a Red arrows taxi-past parade !!

[@Beebee_2025]

The Red Arrows Iconic Sydney Harbour Display was so mindblowing & spectacular i will never forget it.❤

[@johnlamb2502]

Why does the establishment seem to dislike the working class in our country

[@cathybrind2381]

The establishment dislikes everyone who didn't go to to the same prep school, university, Guards unit or business college that they did.

[@hermessonofzeus4462]

Your country is being dismantled piece by piece.

[@senamy424]

It's called "slicing salami". No much is left of it...

[@reighbh13]

i assume this because the pilot standards will not be up to scratch with the revised recruitment policies coming home to roost. 😢

[@dunbar555]

same in Switzerland. done with the tigers, done with the Patrouille Suisse

[@LIKWID]

The Tigers will continue to at least 2026, but it seems the PC7 team will soon be their only display team 😔

[@dunbar555]

@@LIKWID yes, I implied thats what gonna happen. Ive worked with those very birds :(

[@OldskoolCatflap]

Davos is in Switzerland, isn’t it?

[@dunbar555]

@@OldskoolCatflap yes

[@worldofameiso5491]

Don't tell me, they are a symbol of our imperialist past...

[@NewWorldHoarder]

You’d think they’d love the RED part as a symbol of our Marxist future!

[@ClintThrust-e8r]

Government doesn't really care about that in this context. It just gives them an excuse to save a few quid.

[@peterCrane-u4b]

preparing the UK for a future muslim caliphate methinks!!!!

[@OldskoolCatflap]

They are a symbol of national pride and patriotism, which as we all know are the hallmarks of the ‘far right’.

[@joelfildes5544]

Seen them many times,and in the old Gnats,I can’t help thinking that with the autonomous way things are developing,the writing is on the wall for fighter pilots.I’m glad to have been around when ‘people’ were a thing.

[@stevegander920]

Another nail in the coffin for British tradition. Before long RAF will be know as the rainbow air flyers and they’ll be flying kites but that’s a discussion for another time, great video Tim.

[@patienceisalpha]

Same is going on with the Patrouille de France and the Alphajet. the air force is thinking of using Mirage 2000s but they can't get to a sizable fleet.

[@paulbrookes5365]

They will have given them to the Ukraine soon.

[@patienceisalpha]

@@paulbrookes5365 not all variants.

[@goosejuice27]

​​@@paulbrookes5365that's a good thing

[@Dorimeme187]

could use the T-7, TA-50, M-345 or M-346!

[@apistodiscus]

France will take the Mirage 2000 out of service by 2030 at the latest. They only have 20 operational aircraft left

[@Mark_Point]

Nine typhoons would be pretty insane. But if unrealistic how about a new team of five or even three. To replace the solo and the reds??

[@angryofmayfair7091]

How about not paying for thousands and thousands of illegal gimmegrants in 4star hotels being given free everything. 🤬

[@156viewer]

The Daily Mail's headline implies that the Red Arrows should've been disbanded years ago. It's their use of the word "finally."

[@elpeltys]

A far cry from the post-war era when we ruled the jet scene. I feel honoured to have seen the Reds escorting the mighty Vulcan circa 2003.

[@BrianM78]

This makes me sad. I have great memories of lying in a grass field as a boy and watching the Red Arrows visiting Northern Ireland, flying over Strangford Lough and Co.Down.

[@vjallen]

You need to right T1 and T2 on the back of you hands.... Love your work

[@stevieb6492]

Im so sad to hear this I love the Red Arrows

[@maximilliancunningham6091]

The Gnat was a sweet little bird, and deadly in a close in low altitude dogfight. Start making those again for the arrows.

[@kevinfarley7732]

Remember the days when the RAF's display teams used front line fighters, obviously this will never happen again...

[@penningtoncolin]

Hi Tim love you videos I'm 55 I see how this country is changing your completely right with what you say,anyway I love seeing low flying raf jets lower the better I live in northwest close to lake district it's awesome to see you lads honing your skills low flying over us,my favourite raf planes are spitfire ,jaguar ,tornado,typhoon, I've worked at bae warton were they make typhoon amongst others,I have family members who served in raf 1 raf police and 1 raf regiment, Tim what was your best memory of your service and I thankyou for your service and your videos

[@sahhull]

I remember air displays in the 1970s. When we was stood watching a few plane lengths away from the runway. You could see the pilot. Now you're 2 fields way, lucky to be in the same post code. They only way to get a good look is binoculars.

[@ronlucock3702]

At least in Australia, we don't have the "has to be Australian" culture. Our Areobatics team, The Roulettes, flies the Pilatus PC-21 trainer. Not as sexy as a jet but it does the job. The PC-21's replaced the '80's generation PC-9's, so hopefully they'll still be around for a bit. We use the Hawk for jet conversion too but even that's "too expensive" for the Roulettes by our standards. At the end of the day, someone's just gonna have to come up wih a new jet! Good luck.

[@rushymoto]

The F16 took its first flight 51 years ago this month. I was also amazed how old many of the C130s I flew on with the Americans are. Lots of air craft are very old.

[@apistodiscus]

Yes, but the F-16s that were built in the 1970s and 80s have long been retired from USAF service

[@oldgrubber]

Hey Tim, how about the Textron Airland Scorpion. They haven't managed to sell one since the US moved the goalposts on them and its V V Cheap to buy and run.... Just a thought.

[@michaelalanpowell]

What about the early Typhoons? They are at least partly British built. Strip them down to lighten them up and hopefully make them cheaper to fly? We must try to save the Reds! I know it's wishful thinking on my part.

[@CanadairCL44]

My best mate of nearly 60 years trained at Valley. He sent me some patches for No.4 FTS which I still have. Sad to hear the Reds may be disbanded, I hope it doesn't happen. Cheers Tim!

[@mikeb5556]

It’s a sad state of affairs we don’t have a British fast jet trainer. How we have declined. As a lad I got into Farnborough on the Fridays (Dad at Weybridge) and I recall a massive formation of Hunters (Black Arrows) also not forgetting the Navy’s Sea Vixens and Scimitars display. The noise I can still think back to. Ah the days…

[@bertiewooster3326]

In the 90s we put the Reds up for disbanding every year in the LTC round but the minister did not had the courage to endorse our recommendations.There you have it **

[@jonathanland2218]

Alternative Assumptions.

[@antlister]

Nothing lasts forever. I fondly remember the Reds flying at Finningley airshows and spending an ATC camp at RAF Scampton. The Reds have always been on the chopping block, ever since the MoD Options for Change defence review, but they've remained unscathed so far to date.

[@peterrichardson9248]

The main snag is air displays are so sanitised and SAFE that there is little point in watching them.

[@tonytheantony]

We have lost so many airshows, and yes, safety has been tightened up. Dystopian Britain coming our way.

[@Chris-nn3vu]

​@@NewWorldHoarder triggered much 😂

[@zero1zero184]

@@NewWorldHoarder Yes we have seen the Red's recently, hence his comment. You see, unlike little girls like you. Many of us have seen the Red's at their peak, flying the Gnat's doing incredible low level aerobatics with breaks over the crowd. I still to this day remember the Red's show at Blackbush, a Gnat coming in from the west at less than head height. You have no idea what you have missed.. Correction:- the Gnat was coming in from the East, I was on the other side of the runway, on the heath.

[@angryofmayfair7091]

Probably more to do with this net zero climate cr@p and money so we can keep our illegal VIP guests in 4star hotels and free everything.

[@garypoulton7311]

Yepp, I grew up near Biggin Hill and used to ride up on my Raleigh Chopper and sneak into the air fair, from the fence, about where they make Spitfires now, it was fantastic, Vulcan, Buccaneers etc etc, all balls out, and doing stuff you would be grounded for now. Last airshow I went to in the UK was more circuits and bumps, pathetic.

[@tomlong8472]

Daily mail have turned you into a Geography teacher. Morning Mr Davies.

[@PhilipBallGarry]

I worry that the Aeralis project may suffer the same fate as the Slingsby Firecracker back in the eighties. The RAF needed a replacement for the Jet Provost and the Embraer Tucano was chosen instead. A shame, and at the time I wondered if this was purely a political decision. But perhaps there were concerns about a smaller company being robust enough to ultimately follow through?

[@Pittnuma]

I called it 3-4 years ago, the writing was on the wall as airshows are being cancelled left right n center, still miss Waddington and Elvington..

[@whtalt92]

I wonder what was going on 3-4 years ago....

[@rangerwhite7091]

Seen a few displays. Fantastic.

[@raaraa-1]

Very interesting video thank you

[@45Bootie]

Cheers Tim, enjoyed that

[@lauriestokes6388]

Please correct me if I’m wrong but the T2 cannot be used for the type of aerobatics the Reds need them for, I can’t remember wether it’s the airframe or software or a combination of both. Also, as with the Gnat the Hawk being used by the Reds was a big marketing tool for overseas sales of the Aircraft, if we haven’t got a “homemade” aircraft to sell they’ll unfortunately be no team, this will also be a very negative thing for Airshows.

[@Laidback61]

hardly any Gnat fighters were sold.

[@Clampett01]

I have been amazed how long the reds have been going. They were “old” jets when I left the RAF back in 1998. I don’t hold much hope for a British replacement. Little point in doing an end of life upgrade to delay the inevitable. Another shameful and embarrassing lack of foresight and ineptitude by successive Governments. RAF is not a serious force anymore and has now reverted back to its former self, the RFC (Royal Flying Club) A sad demise.

[@Laidback61]

The RAF lost its sense of direction years ago - rebadge it as AAC and let Land pay the bills.

[@neildonaldson3408]

Yes! I've given you a thumbs up. And this may disappoint some but I've always found the "Dread Arrows" display without exception as tedious beyond belief. Peace to you all.

[@Laidback61]

Soon to be the Dead Arrows !!

[@Aeronaut1975]

TIm, can you give us a bit more detail on WHY the T2 engines are prone to blades cracking and propogating, and the engines on the T1 don't? What are the differences between the 2 engines?

[@Back2TheBike]

I was a project manager in Hawk Projects at BAe, 1990. I looked after the smoke dispenser amongst other stuff. A sad day and I hope a British solution emerges.

[@ken-u3n]

We're in a bad way, folks, right across the board in this country .

[@anandmorris]

That Squadron emblem for 208 is epic!!

[@andrewjcroughan09]

The public won't care what happens to the red arrows.

[@1506pinkers]

I’m always reminded of Oscar Wilde’s comment about knowing the cost of everything and the value of nothing. The Reds are the best in the World. We may not be able to afford them, but we can’t afford to lose them.

[@thefalcon256]

Sad, but not surprising. Britain is a changing country, for better or worse.

[@colinstewart1432]

Tim, you need to head up a committee or steering group to advise the government on this stuff. You've got no skin in the game and you've been at the sharp end of these issues. You cannot know what's required if you've only ever flown a desk. They need gripping or we'll end up with a shitshow.

[@cathybrind2381]

Already is....

[@shaundadson8302]

See the BBMF is probably due for the chop too 😢.

[@Laidback61]

They can't keep flying 80 year old airctaft forever.

[@jasoneldridge4738]

Why ?

[@composedlight6850]

The Public did not want Concorde to be taken out of service --- but it was and within weeks all the hydrolic Oil was drained to ensure they could not be put back into the flight. What the Government wants it gets .

[@NewWorldHoarder]

Got*

[@TornadoLuigi]

The retirement of Concord had nothing to do with the government. It was down to them being too expensive for BA and Air France to maintain and operate them.

[@russ8211]

I went on a day out with the Red’s four years ago…already down to 12 serviceable and this was in sight. Hence only flying 7 ship displays this last few years. Should have put T2’s in 10 years ago.

[@MrJeff622]

Tim we spent most of our Holidays camping in Dolgellau, Barmouth, fairbourne ish areas, you will know it as the Mach loop. We all used to love seeing these planes through the valleys. That must have been a real blast and hard to let go? Thank you for your service young man. I'm just curious I imagine golf just doesn't cut it? Maybe superbike idk...

[@johnnunn8688]

He doesn’t play golf, he’s a laaad.

[@rogerbrady7772]

A sad day. I flew Hawks for 13 years. The Reds will be missed.

[@Vanosphere]

If we sell the Red Arrows to India then our government will probably increase the funding and pay for a new fleet. The reason they aren't replacing them is because the Red Arrows are about national pride, moral and entertainment.. which our government aren't interested in.

[@railyatra8879]

We are producing our own hawks under license

[@Metal05]

I have two good mates in the Reds. One is Red 1 this year and last, and one is a RA instructor, as he’s done his term.

[@w75525]

1:00 That'd be an interesting video

[@chrisainsworth68]

Some say we are being sold out by our Politicians,

[@jackbarnes8037]

You'll be getting a visit with that kind of Wrong think! 😳

[@angryofmayfair7091]

And our civil serpents 🐍

[@colinmacdonald1939]

Totally understand why you're saying tranche 1 Typhoon will never happen but anything is possible with the money/political will. A team of 4 instead of 9? Either way it is a real shame, many mates have gone through the reds, its an institution and a huge recruiting tool. As I type that, I realise airshows are rapidly becoming a thing of the past so.....😢

[@forresteti]

In my opinion the T2 would be unsuitable due to the maintenance costs and it’s over complex nature in relation to the T1. It will be interesting to see how other Hawk using display teams fair with more modern replacements in the near future.

[@richardmillican7733]

I thought there was a T1 sim at Valley?, a close freind Geoff Leeming used to oversee its ops for training?

[@massimoforesti]

Biggest assumption is that there will still be an RAF at the rate Britain is falling

[@CaptVirtual]

What about the Goshawk? They were still being manufactured this century. Remove all the navy kit to reduce price/weight. Many air forces around the world, USAF included, are in this exact same dilemma with ageing jet trainers.

[@deet5072]

and actually thinking about it, its worse then you mentioned because even if they did get "something" in line to replace them, with by the time we get them the people who made it magic would have left. Same reason there will never been another Mildenhall Airshow, not because they wouldnt do it, but because everyone that knew how to throw on a good show left and they cant do it.

[@NewWorldHoarder]

Than*

[@Uk.wildman]

Watched the red arrows for decades they are fantastic

[@theterminaloptimist]

It’s not like the OSD for Hawk T1 hasn’t been known for at least a decade. All UK mil aircraft fleets have a planned lifespan, that may or may not be extended. But there is always a point where the juice isn’t worth the squeeze.

[@rjds1800]

Let's not forget that the BBMF is on the chopping block as well.

[@ericcorry1199]

I fully agree It costs a lot of finance just to Promote the RAF this money can be better spent in defence of the country rather than a promotional advert I for one will be glad to see the end of them and back to a full time working unit

[@JaneGalvin]

Can’t Imagine Going to an Airshow and Not Seeing The Reds. Something I would like to See is A Typhoon Role Demo like The Austrians do. Or Even bring back the Full RAF Role demo that we used to Get a Few years Back.

[@ernstgoldfinger1178]

The main is, Why were BAe not financed to design and build it's replacement? Surely the other simpl option would be to build an updated Hawk....Built in the UK as before employing 1,000's of skilled people. I guess the way drones have developed and how remote pilot vehicles are used there could be a strong argument not to replace any piloted aircraft.

[@whtalt92]

@@ernstgoldfinger1178 free market, yadda yadda

[@Fat_Cat_747]

To save money we could build miniature versions of the Hawk, piloted by cats 😸

[@MeowEX53-Haha]

And here comes Kitty Litter doing a fast pass from your right ... WWWWWWWWWOOOOOOEEEEEEEEMMMMMMM