The new Harley El Diablo is a disappointment...

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[@bobberguy1]

$6,000 for paint plus $5,000 over MSRP? No, thanks. P.T. Barnum was correct. There IS a sucker born every day.

[@thomasfiedler5176]

The reason for the price difference is more then paint. It has the 117 motor not the 114. An it has other differences also. An the paint job isn't your standard paint job either. It's a numbered bike an will only b x amount of them so it will make it hold its value better over time. Harley does it alot. They got the radical paint program they pick a few certain models an make a small run. I got a newer wide glide an it has the radical paint program an only a hundred made. It's sometimes worth it to b different an have something that majority of ppl don't

[@bobberguy1]

@@thomasfiedler5176 The S and ST are both 117. The only difference in El Diablo is paint.

[@maybe5883]

For 6K you can have a darn great paint job done outside the dealer

[@themixmusicandmore6280]

But when I get a kawasaki that's super reliable and cheap I need to get a "real bike". And I don't want to buy a 1500 dollar iPhone I'm a "broke boy". Lol thank God I don't give a shit what other people think

[@balivespaholic]

And people still buying it.. 😊

[@jamessouthworth1699]

With these ridiculous prices I see absolutely no reason to trade in my older paid-for Harley. If they think these new bikes are supposed to tempt me trade in, let it be known it's doing exactly the opposite. It's not tempting it's horrifying.

[@jasonrichardwatts]

Definitely keep the older bike. A Harley is a Harley and what suits you won’t necessarily suit others (and vice-versa). Make it your own and ride the shit outta it. 👌🤘

[@jonhopkins1284]

I agree. They don't give you nothing for trade unless it's newer bike

[@tracyjones6284]

I hear you brother. In 2006, I purchased my low miles 1997 H-D sporty evo with cash, rode it off the lot, and I am still riding the same bike to this day. If and when the engine/gearbox gives up the ghost, I'll pull it, rebuild it, put it back together, install it, and get on down the road.

[@jamessouthworth1699]

@@tracyjones6284 hold on to the Evo Sportster because you've got one of the most reliable motorcycles Harley-Davidson ever made. I did the "upgrade" to a twin cam 88 from a Evo Sportster and ever since I've been wanting another Evo Sportster.

[@tracyjones6284]

@@jamessouthworth1699 The twin cam was garbage until the bugs were worked out of it, and it still isn't near as good as the evo. The evo, regardless if it was in a Sporty or the larger bikes, is the best engine H-D built and their worst mistake. I say it was their worst mistake because it is damned near bullet proof and holds together under the most brutal operating conditions. But when the evo expires, it does so in a violent manor, as evo racers very well know. I know a biker gal who owns a 1994 H-D Lowrider (a daily rider) who religiously serviced her bike until she had to rebuild it after 500,000 plus documented miles. If that doesn't say bullet proof and longevity, i don't know what does.

[@Cd-cp5pk]

I’m so damn sick of everybody hating on Harley. If you don’t like it don’t buy it. It’s that damn simple.

[@MrBigbike55]

great answer, i totally agree with you

[@mrwhite2628]

Triggered! Hahahaha!

[@davidvanbrunt4233]

I wont...

[@derekb5749]

Most people can't ride a bike and never touched a bike...so of course they jump on self hating US made stuff. I appreciate other bikes, but I love my HD.

[@Cd-cp5pk]

@@derekb5749 couldn’t have said it better myself !

[@robbyclark6915]

It’s a beautiful bike but I much prefer that blue, revival, Electra glide from last year. That’s a true icon.

[@mrwhite2628]

Perfume on a pig! Another way for HD to take the same old bike. Dress it in a modern dress. And call it something new. A 30k+ Softail. And they will sell all of them. Because there is a sucker born every minute.

[@SunDevilinFL]

If you’re watching this for an actual reviews of the bike forget it. The title is click-bait. Don’t waste your time

[@raymondlamirand2597]

The skull logos, Dark Customs, El Diablo. Whats with all the devil worship ?

[@hoss6048]

It’s nice..I’ll buy a stock ST and do my own paintjob, along with some real engine mods

[@freebehindbars8654]

Be honest, no you won’t.

[@m.f.m.67]

@@freebehindbars8654 Actually, I have a friend that is doing just that. Bought a straight ST and is dropping about $1800 on a custom paint job. Much cheaper than El Mucho Dinero.

[@freebehindbars8654]

@@m.f.m.67 But it won’t have the resell or draw of a factory limited bike. I’d rather customize it myself and actually get a little more power, better running motor for less than a “special” HD paint schemes. It does look good though, just can’t justify the price unless you buy it to eventually resell.

[@meattooth1303]

I do not get why the Low Rider ST does not have the same round speedometer the cheaper S has. Instead, it has that tiny cheap LED speedometer that looks like the screen of a 80s digital watch.

[@joehoe7551]

Got your point, My words… But both parts do have the same price. Whatever, bad job done by hd

[@fearsomename4517]

I'm old now and my '99 Heritage stock Springer is fine with me. I was always into vintage bikes. My '99 is the newest bike I've ever owned. I'm low and slow.

[@Prosecute-fauci]

Fuck that. I’ll buy a mid 2000s road king for $4000

[@bobberguy1]

Agreed. I just bought a 2010 FXDC (a real Dyna) with 10,200 miles for $6000.

[@tracyjones6284]

The way i see it, the H-D El Diablo is a factory made frankenbike, and it looks great. If you think about it, the El Diablo is an H-D Lowrider with Sport Glide bags and an FXRT style fairing. If this combination doesn't scream frankenbike, i don't know what does.

[@feloniousmonk3049]

It's a Low Rider ST with a sound system and fancy paint job added. Knowing how easy it is on a bagger to get your bags scratched by some other yahoo parked side by side next to you at a get together, I'd just get a LRST in Black, forget about the radio run by your smart phone, and get a Cardo PackTalk Edge instead for my helmet and listening to some music. I think I'm gonna die with my 2018 Sport Glide in Twisted Cherry Red. It has the bags, it has the forward pegs, I can add the 56mm rear mono shock for the same travel in the rear. I can live with the M8 107 CI and the single disc up front, it's a Cruiser or light touring bike for 1 up riding. Near enough for me to an El Diablo, especially when you have longer legs or you're tall.

[@robbieracer3294]

I would never pay over 30 grand for a motorcycle, that's insane especially for a new, modern one. I won't even spend over 8-9grand, too many good models you can get for 7-8grand. A motorcycle should never cost as much or more than a car...two wheels and motor compared to four with a roof and doors ...get out of here

[@wudluv2]

They should have added the 131 kit to this bike and painted it in red . Then you could of called it by its name.

[@freebehindbars8654]

Something besides looks. But remember who we’re talking about. The customer could always pay the $28k sticker, $34,500 with markup and OTD cost. Then turn around and put another $5-6k to make it as powerful as an Indian. 😢 But it’ll hold it’s value! It’ll be worth $27k for a couple years.

[@1rognyc]

@@freebehindbars8654 i agree with your statement.

[@FFL-vg9ro]

Pretty easy to find them sitting gathering dust in several MN dealerships. With fees, and surcharges and taxes, its over $32k for a softail. Nope. Personally, I’m not at all impressed with the paint. It’s way to busy looking, like they are trying too hard.

[@derekb5749]

That's busy....lol?

[@spoom937]

@@derekb5749 lol right people just hate to hate!

[@slayer04031974]

If the sales and big wigs had riders blood. They would offer this paint as option. Faring fully stocked for other non faring Softails as option. And completely ditch the lottery crap idea!! If you don't like it? No one cares!! You most likely don't even ride enough to do 3 oil changes a year to begin with

[@kyleryneost]

I mean a paint job like that is worth $5,000 in general so the price tag makes sense and it’s accurate.. Also a 1998 Dyna convertible was $14,580 in 1998 also that article from the FXR 2, & 3 were $18,000 a piece in 1999 so the price is actually pretty reasonable for todays standards with inflation you take that FXDS-CONV and price it based on inflation from 1998-2022 it’s $26,491.86 just a word of wisdom to people with price

[@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου]

That only sounds reasonable on paper. Inflation only benefits the corporations

[@tomhomer3261]

I hate that paint job! Then again I hate red ! They should have other color options. Gun metal grey. Black. Blue. Hell even White. Anything but red!!

[@HarleyDavidsonVince]

So they slapped some paint on it, same old bikes but the suckers are new.

[@fernandoboero1852]

I had a 1987 Low Rider Sport FXRS-SP silver and blue paint job. What a beautiful bike. Trying to find one but I haven't had good luck. I just don't like the fat windscreens/saddlebags/stereo systems on motorcycles. Might as well get a 70's Cadillac convertible.

[@bandit7519]

I’m glad you said that. And your 100 % rights stereo system doesn t belong on a motorcycle or a Harley you should be listening to that motor not a stereo and the newer Harley’s you can t even hear them till the are right on your side I ride a 98 eg I stripped down add ape hangers Got a evo and you can hear my bike coming from 3 blocks away that’s a Harley I don t like. Much bikes made after2010 no fuel injection s on a Harley should be a carb

[@fernandoboero1852]

@paul sroczynski I totally agree. The eco engines were bulletproof & easy to hot rod. If Harley wanted to move into the “future” why not use the bridge engine? They spent all that money to develop it. Look at Triumph & their line of bikes. I don’t get it!!!

[@fernandoboero1852]

I wanted to say EVO engine and VROD engine. F@&King Apple auto speller!!!

[@bandit7519]

@@fernandoboero1852 what’s the bridge engine I never heard of that one and if it had a carburetor they should have kept it instead of adding fuel injector s to the engines

[@bandit7519]

@paul sroczynski Yeah your right they should have kept carbs on bikes instead adding fuel injector one of guys a ride with took his older bike with a carb on it to a Harley dealer to get some work done to his bike they turned him way cause the younger guys don t know how to tune a carburetor and I also saw couple videos on KZbin guys saying the same thing messed up

[@llano19fly]

If Harley returned to building FXR's & Dyna's I could get interested in them again. Too many gimmicks &electronics. I rode to get away from the noise & air my brain out!

[@danielcampbell8184]

Good lord, do not compare (whatever this thing is) to a tall FXR.

[@chrissmith7669]

While I love the ST and the El Diablo paint I’ve already told my dealer I’m not paying a penny over MSRP. Lol. Told him I’d be back this winter to see if he was more willing to discuss the price. Yes I’d love more HP but there needs to be a bump between 117 & 131.

[@CforCLARE]

Dealerships are trying to price these 10,000 over MSRP

[@chrissmith7669]

@@CforCLARE yikes

[@drainmonkeys385]

I don’t dislike the el Diablo, but I like the black one better

[@thomasfiedler5176]

Hey fast lane. That so called 83 fxrt you showed was actually a late 84 model. The early 84s were shovel an tge late 84s were evo engines. Harley brought the evo out in the 2nd half of 84. All 83 bikes an the 1st half of the 84 production were shovel motors. I had a late 84 fxrt an they were a damn good bike

[@edwardwilliams9923]

Right from 82 to 94 I would take any one of the FXRs over those shitbox Dynas they stuck us with. Gotta love those rubber mount babies!!!

[@m.f.m.67]

Owned an 89 FXRT. Great bike. I'd still be riding it if not for a lady pulling out in front of me on my way back from Sturgis Bike Week. "Sturgis 99...I wrecked mine!"

[@rubo1964]

I maybe minority but I rather buy stunning BMW R1800 now going 15k! This is something original!

[@IzekEspinoza]

The Harley community just doesn’t like new things! It’s weird and kinda sad lmao

[@brucesantacory1390]

LOL it's funny, this had to have been done before the release of the bike, cause they hit the showrooms and no one bought them, and some dealers cut the insane prices they were asking and some sold, As far as Iconic this to me was a FLOP !! i worked for Harley in dealerships from 73 to 2010 and i remember the FXRT and how we couldn't give them away, the FXR however sold much better i owned 2 of them and FXR Superglide and an FXLR Lowrider custom, Now when my local dealers got theirs in a didn't look that closely, so i could be wrong here, but i didn't see and sound system, and i think the new fairing is uglier than the FXRT fairing and that was and is butt ugly LOL

[@jackscruggs1536]

If wanted a radio heater and windshield do believe I'd get a vw convertible.

[@scotty7663]

They should just produce them at a fair market price and they would sell 200,000 of them.

[@KatsudonArt]

I'd still buy it if I can already.

[@jimtownsend6139]

Saw one in person on the road up here in Canada, so they are being sold outside the USA. Really sharp looking, but way overpriced.

[@briannone-ya618]

It’s just another way to make you “feel” special. Instead of actually innovating, they are repackaging in pretty paper and selling you old ideas at new prices. Welcome to the world 😁

[@jasonrichardwatts]

El Diablo is sick, it’s just expensive. I’m on the red 2022 Street Bob and loving it.

[@MCHoodlum13]

Its not a real street bob.

[@theonlyredspecial]

Beautiful bike. Love it. 700 for USA. Rest for worldwide audience. Sucks that USA dealers seem to crank the prices. My friend says one sold for $45k. They are selling in uk for retail and have sold out already.

[@Iswhatitisssss]

20 down under ( Australia ) which are all pre orders. 13 for New Zealand.

[@Markotto09]

Ridiculous. They should’ve made limited edition FXR’s, not a Softail with the FXR name. The price tag is ridiculous. Remember when HD was a brand that catered to working class American People?

[@kurthaas4331]

It's a Harley. It's built to disappoint. If not now, it will at the first time you have it serviced.

[@-Jason-L]

I saw at least one bike in this video that wasn't even a Harley 🤣

[@wwb7091]

Just different lipstick on the same pig. How expensive is red paint? Put in the 150 hp motor from the Pan America, fix the god-awful rear suspension, and come out with something that's actually DIFFERENT.

[@official_dutchess]

Custom paint job - $5000 Rockford Fosgate Audio - $1000 Limited run serialized bike - Value increases as time passes The price for this bike is pretty fair.

[@Dgoff11]

They need to make a modern cross exhaust

[@MrNick-]

I want Harley to come out with new springer

[@drewp.wiener1205]

The rims look 'off' to me. They should be black. Having seen this in person, the rims and pin-striping aren't the the same colour. The pin-striping is more gold, and the rims bronze. There isn't enough of this bike to make it command the high price tag.

[@MrNick-]

There’s a lot going on with that paint job. That is not your typical dealer paint work.

[@yoshit9819]

I took a shot of Jack for every time this dude said "E...l diba, dibol,,," hell, you know the thing-----

[@chrisvarva9847]

Trying to bring back the disappointed dyna riders. My 2000 FXDX looks better but has become unreliable. Switched to KTM 1290 SA. More fun, way more performance and power yet I feel safer on this bike. I only miss the sound of the FXDX.

[@vincentbeijing6926]

So your new KTM handles better than your 22 years old Harley? What an epiphany

[@chrisvarva9847]

@@vincentbeijing6926 on specs alone it's a safe bet the 2019 Superadventure runs rings around the "El Diablo" as well. It looks cool and I'm sure the stereo system appeals to a certain breed of biker. To some of us it's about what the bike can do that other bikes and cars can't do that makes it more fun to ride. Reliability? Time will tell.

[@ekspatriat]

@@vincentbeijing6926 Any KTM will handle better than any year Harley. I suspect most HD owners won't deny that!

[@vincentbeijing6926]

@@chrisvarva9847 i ride a Harley 1200 roadster and other more modern bikes, love them for different reasons, although the Harley’s handling is much better than the brand’s reputation. I don’t see why comparing them. The Harley is slower than my Japanese and Italian bikes, but the engine is endearing and the bike demands more effort through the twisties, which is as well on public roads, the fun starts at lower speeds. I don’t doubt your ktm is excellent. I rented the previous 1290 GT and was impressed, a different animal, very powerful engine and controlled chassis, without filtering the feel of speed as much as a GS for example. By comparison to the Harley, the engine still wakes up later and at very illegal speeds. Lovely, very different, still can’t find a point of comparing them. About stereo on a bike, I never understood the point, especially with headsets in the helmet.

[@vincentbeijing6926]

@@ekspatriat indeed, captain Obvious

[@2ride_along]

Dammed be the man which invented Speakers on a bike!

[@paulcoote3094]

In Australia 🇦🇺 they are going for $70,000

[@robertreasor7522]

It is a beautiful paint job but it damn well better be for $5000.00 just for paint!

[@robbycassidy4240]

This bike is gorgeous and way more of a nostalgic choice than the Fatboy

[@jamesdspaderf2883]

Not a HD fan. You gotta appreciate the art & craftsmanship to imbue the Diablo with soul. At that price, and with the shameless mark up, I will gladly give it a pass. Content with an admiring glance from afar.

[@BraveClam]

I still prefer my '98 FXDL with that exact same factory paint scheme. It's no FXR unfortunately, but it's still an Evo Dyna. The El Diablo LOOKS good, but IMO it's not truly worthy of an *ICON* series. They knocked the Electra Glide Revival out of the park last year, but this was a let down and felt like a huge money grab..

[@freddyg6940]

Said “El Diablo” every other second 😂

[@shano81]

The details re: how gunslinger painted the bikes was interesting. Such a nice bike!

[@ChaNnArD-mD]

A brand new M109R is more than 10,000$ less.... If it was the same price that would make sense to me.

[@destarruction]

its awesome but I can't afford it :(

[@brianrahuba6919]

Love the bike but not the price ! It's not worth it . Mind as well cough up 8k more and get a bagger .

[@cliffordb47]

If Harley was smart, they would make sure America and Americans get first dibs on all bikes especially one like this let the rest of the world wait

[@ko3esirene]

Passengers seat is optional for this price ?😮

[@lagunamusic7686]

I’d rather buy a custom paint job for a fraction of the price and looks better and more unique.

[@Thisishard2333]

Seriously,It took me about 5 seconds to give it the thumbs down

[@aaronduthoit1278]

The hate is too real. Its the nicest factory plant ever imo

[@davidefland1985]

If u ask me that replica 69 electra glide was a better deal now l see those popping up for resale at rediculous prices. But it just depends on what u want. I would never pay those prices.

[@marcomalo02]

HD is pulling a bunch of parts from bins and farming out a paint job. Same old piece of crap motorcycle at ruinous pricing. What's new?

[@paul9156c]

Harley disappointment, but no surprise. They're not motorcycles. They're high powered personal vibrators.

[@Downsh1ft]

Bruh, you can get a decked out Ducati Multistrada V4 for what is a low rider ST with a paint job. That's freaking insane.

[@HogLife]

I’ll stick to my 03 Heritage Softail Classic,100 year Anniversary edition,Classic Black and silver pinstripe

[@HDR20]

Wrong time for this bike especially since the low rider st was just released a few months ago. IMO they should have done an ICON Sportster since the Evo sporty is gone after this year or a fatboy

[@user-KrackerJack]

they can keep it screw Harley Davidson oh and it's NOT an FXR

[@The1s2a3r]

Im stuck on Dyna's the Diablo is not wish it was.

[@harrellfelty5049]

I wouldn't be trading my Indian off for it, so I just keep what I got

[@six-pack1332]

Happy with my Sport Glide. 🤷‍♂️

[@warrenseiboth3466]

I'll a car that keeps me out of the rain for that price

[@deerafael2063]

Ima paint one black.

[@jastaylor2730]

It’s a paint job. What do you want?

[@marks146]

If I hit the lottery, I would buy one. So, buying a new overpriced Harley is as likely to happen as it is for me to hit the lottery. I'll keep to my 2008 Road King.

[@herbertsiegl7762]

Prices are ridiculous...also that's a desguised ad.

[@chip9832]

I agree isn't it too soon

[@nickahrens6139]

The bags and faring were ugly back in the eighties and still are As long as Harley keeps hanging on to that anchor M8 motor they're going to keep sinking

[@Nils_Martin]

I'm lovin' it.. ♡

[@wudluv2]

131 kit, paint it red and add the sportster S infotainment, then you could call it what ever you want

[@davidofrior526]

So you guys don't like the devil...

[@MCHoodlum13]

I'd rather have the '82 FXR.

[@Dcj01]

Hope no one drops it

[@themanwithdahelmet]

Million dollar bogan will love this one....

[@ivoperic3992]

Even Harley-Davidson is going woke. 🤣 Tough guys are dying out, rainbow gays are in vogue now.

[@Ridehighfxdb]

It’s just a red ST bro

[@screwplanplaybook7121]

Lame, Basically A Road Glide, I like the color that's it.

[@michaelmitchell5909]

Shit that bikes amazing...color too

[@williamkennedy8768]

Seems that the engine was built for pan America sure not much work had to be done you have to sell to younger generation cause none of them know any thing just book smart like a college student

[@tracyjones6284]

The El Diablo has a 117 ci Milwaukee 8 engine. The Pan America has the 1250cc Revolution engine. They are two different beasts.

[@timothyporras3720]

Good 👍 they should Make El Angel 😇 down with the devil. Live to Ride Praise the Lord!!

[@99FXR]

currently building my 94 FXRT...I think I'll keep the FXR..

[@DennisTheMenace5150]

Love my 2024 XRLRST

[@brokenspokes6731]

I will keep my black st - paint don't make the motorcycle..

[@BMFRich65]

Too expensive.

[@DennisTheMenace5150]

Absolutely beautiful bike

[@jeffreystpierre6898]

I don't like it either

[@POPPASHANGO]

Wow...that is a pretty ugly bike....just being honest

[@franciscocuevas4540]

I rather buy a Ninja H2

[@DilynHorton]

wishbones are not dynas, these new "soft"tails are trying to identify as a dyna! sounds like some woke garbage to me! after canceling the dyna right after the low rider S, i have hoped harley goes bankrupt, and now with the sportster wether you like em or hate em it was a staple in harley-davidson so now i really hope harley goes bankrupt! not to mention all the warranty garbage and the lawsuits going on right now! this is not listening to your customer base harley!

[@Kevin-ne3tl]

No sheet, man. I have my old school '02 FXDL w/ the 88 twinkie, and I'll just keep it. Still runs phenomenal and it's even a CV model. FI was an OPTION at that time., of course, for like $1000+ extra. Also have a '97 883.

[@ionageman]

What are they doing .. it’s ugly

[@andymasters7029]

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