Fat Acceptance is Getting Insane...

[@RachelReduces]

When she said "science shows the only reason fat people are unhealthy is discrimination" I hollered!!!!! 😫🤣

[@TheCegafam]

The only reason why I’m fat is because my dog doesn’t like dog walks.

[@RachelReduces]

@@TheCegafam same 😅

[@raimeyewens7518]

My SIL passed away at 32. She was 400+lbs. she said she was healthy. Her autopsy showed cause of death was sequela of morbid obesity. She died because she was fat. If these people don’t have health problems at this moment they will very soon. The human body can’t handle all the extra fat around the organs. I guarantee if the people in these videos trying to promote obesity had a fairy godmother show up and say I can instantly make you thin they would do it in a heartbeat. They don’t really love their fat bodies. They are just trying to convince themselves they do.

[@snooganslestat2030]

​@Joana Gomes Some of them are starting to die.

[@WobblesandBean]

I'm a scientist. Like, I legit do science for my job. And I can tell you, that's a buncha bullshi†.

[@marcmcphee]

It’s no longer fat acceptance…it’s fat encouragement. People are messed up in the head.

[@kindGSL]

Nailed it.

[@dublinlassdana6544]

Absolutely!!

[@jasonhsu4711]

The pro-obesity brigade reminds me of the pro-anorexia brigade. I wonder if any of the pro-obesity groups or celebrities are getting any funding from the junk food industry. The pro-obesity agenda certainly supports sales of McDonald's, Kentucky Fried Cholesterol, Pop Tarts, Mountain Dew, Milk Duds, Cheetos, Doritos, Skittles, and Little Debbie snack cakes. The tobacco industry funded smokers' rights groups, which lobbied against tobacco taxes and bans on smoking in airplanes, stores, restaurants, and other places. Having to pay more to smoke encouraged people to escape from the prison of nicotine addiction or avoid getting snared in the first place. The same was also true for making it more inconvenient to find a place to smoke.

[@claudiafahey1353]

In many ways yes

[@lainiwakura1776]

It's a cult.

[@jeng.2117]

"You can't tell anything about a person's health by looking at them." There goes the field of dermatology lol. Visual examination is a recognized component of diagnostics across multiple disciplines.

[@karilnowak7962]

Remember when your GP always checked your. tongue? A lot of ill health is visible. (Father was a doctor.)

[@randa2113]

I was about to say the same thing ! It blows my mind when ppl say : "you can't determine someone's health by looking at them "

[@jneilson7568]

​@@randa2113 it's maximum denial and shutting down debate. It's ridiculous that even magazine covers seem to be pushing this silly ideology too.

[@notmebutyou8350]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@soibirki3886]

Person gets shot and lies in the street bleeding… “No officer, i couldn’t tell they needed an ambulance, you can’t tell If someone is healthy from just looking at them! I don’t see disease!”🤪🤪

[@Marymackthequeenofwack]

"DisCriMiNation is what causes obese people to be unhealthy" Congestive Heart Failure : "Allow me to introduce myself"

[@Moose92411]

The makings of an elite knock-knock joke right there

[@gucciasalways]

What do you mean obviously that’s caused by stress /s

[@XhumpersX]

Exactly what i thought when i saw her legs. Shes not even 30 years old and shes already retaining water in her legs meaning her heart is already not strong enough to handle the load. That is NOT a good sign and I don't mean some abstract "poor health", I mean shes looking at heart failure within the next few years.

[@DeadLkeMe]

"I don't hate you because you're fat. You're fat because I hate you" *Proceeds to fall back into crowd of supportive teen girls*

[@firebrandsgirl]

​@@DeadLkeMe lol. And I Love your username. I love that show.

[@schneewitschen101]

I once heard somebody say “you had good intentions, but your viewpoints are so extreme you’ve become what you were trying to fight”. Comes to mind listening to her. Also, If somebody cannot fit into an mri machine they have a freaking problem end of discussion. IMHO

[@Avarcirith]

That's an excellent way to summarize political and social extremism-- on both the left and right sides.

[@maryrose9292]

Someone who looks healthy can indeed be unhealthy. But if you already look unhealthy and it's visibly painful to even walk a few steps, there's no discussion to have. Even if you don't have diabetes and high blood pressure (yet), just having so much extra weight on your joints does a lot of damage. They aren't made to carry around 300+ pounds.

[@IZaubermausI]

I will never understand how fat-activists can deny human anatomy….🤦🏼‍♀️

[@buckyyyb]

By default they’re unhealthy because they’re fat, just like by default someone who’s underweight is unhealthy. And they get sooooo angry when you say that!

[@SamRabbitx]

I hate hearing "you don't owe anyone health" and the like. It feels so low-key suicidal. Like. I owe a ton of people my health because I love them. And they owe me health back because they love me. Its so frustrating

[@KRSims-tr7zj]

I agree with this so much. My mother is a heavy smoker, and she always claims it has no effect on anyone else because she steps outside to smoke and never does it around others, etc. But I constantly point out that if she dies early from COPD, that effects everyone who loves her and wants her to be in their lives as long as possible. It's so short sighted not to want to be the healthiest version of yourself for the people you care about.

[@SamRabbitx]

@KRSims-tr7zj I'm sorry the situation with your mom is so stressful. I wish people like that would understand the physical and emotional burden they put on their loved ones when they make self-destructive decisions. I hope your mom has a "eureka" moment and changes her lifestyle, for the sake of her loved ones.

[@YoCelKreSunt]

Pretty much shows how individualistic and egocentric these new generations are.

[@darkydoom]

I agree. Be fit and healthy to live a better life for yourself, partner, kids. We've had many family members die recently and it's like, "I don't want to lose you in 30 years. Please reduce alcohol intake, exercise more, please." And I want to be an independent ambulant geriatric

[@sparkymularkey6970]

We're also all members of a tribe, on some level, be it our friends or our families or our communities and cultures. We all need to work together to survive, and that means being able to show up as our best selves. I hope these people get the help they need.

[@e.6328]

Jordan is one of the more frustrating ones I have seen. They recently complained about seeing TWENTY (20!!!!) doctors in the last two years who apparently didn’t tell them what they wanted to hear, which means they are all “fatphobic” and discriminating against them. Jordan comes from a VERY wealthy family and old money. The privilege to be able to see almost two dozen doctors while people are dying because they can’t afford necessary medicine or are terrified to call an ambulance because of the cost. Beyond tone deaf to try to claim oppression when they’re able to see more doctors in one year than many Americans will see in a lifetime.

[@radicalcartoons2766]

She's a woman, not a crowd. ( "Their").

[@MilkyWayUnicorn99]

@@amandak.4246 No, no you can't. If you are a female- woman. A male- a man. It's science and biology and facts don't give crap about your feelings and how you want to identify. The world doesn't revolve around your delusions.

[@84Mazzy]

@@amandak.4246 oh please stop with this pronoun sh..t. if you're a female then you're a woman. You can't be Male and be a woman.

[@elias.bouchard]

​@@radicalcartoons2766they're nonbinary and this channel is supportive of that. if you don't like it you're welcome to get out of johns comments.

[@Taywanee]

God I hate the “you can’t tell if someone is healthy by looking at them” argument. Nah, you’re not healthy if you’re 400lbs. I don’t need to see your lab results to know that.

[@BronzeDragon133]

Or, we use it as a shortcut to express, "I can calculate that your probability of a life-shortening illness is wildly higher than the average due to your hyper-excessive weight." The same can be said for the exceptionally thin.

[@moammonster_Jess_]

But can you tell if someone is working on their health by looking at them? They could be just a month into a weight loss plan

[@Taywanee]

@@moammonster_Jess_ I never said that. Just cause they’re working on their health doesn’t mean they’re healthy.

[@kirnpu]

Agree. I'm not in the medical field but I don't have to be to know that the person on the right is SERIOUSLY not ok. She may feel ok now but give her 30 years, except that you can't because she most likely will not be around in 30 years at this rate.

[@mizzsimones]

​@@moammonster_Jess_ people don't think about that. They just look at you and judge you. They don't ask questions.

[@rash9488]

Doctors don't tell fat people they're healthy, they tell them that they're "healthy for their weight." Meaning outside of being morbidly obese, you currently do not have any other risk factors at the moment.

[@sarajerde8280]

"I don't have to chop off your toes... at this current moment in time..."

[@mistyblue9610]

My BMI is in the obese category. I’m working on it through diet and I do CrossFit 4-5 days a week. All that to say… I went to my doctor recently and under his observation of my body he called me, “well nourished”. 😂

[@rash9488]

@@mistyblue9610 My BMI is garbage too, about 31. Too much booze. But even when I was working out 6 days a week and eating a little better and not drinking as much I was still around a 27, still managed to knock out 2 full marathons back then though.

[@GlasUndMetall]

The reason we haven't seen fat people in campaigns before is that the clothing industry recently (like in the past decade) figured out there was $$$ to be made here. The clothing industry seein' dollar signs and radical photos of all body types create media buzz and "attention good". There is no altruism in this, just shock value and money because it's business.

[@claudiafahey1353]

Yes there is so much pandering going on across many fields and the pandered to have decided to be assholes about it by denying reality to themselves and everyone else

[@Ann_niana]

Also maybe back then the market of big size clothes was small, obese people were uncommon. It was not worth it. Now, more and more people are obese, they see the market and $$$ opportunity.

[@stevanboi5980]

it's the capitalism

[@bradhend]

You can't tell if someone is healthy. But you can tell if someone is unhealthy, if the physical symptom is extreme enough.

[@Princess.McBetch]

So tired of the "you can't tell that they're unhealthy!!" argument, it's the equivalent of putting their fingers in their ears and going "la la la la". Find me a super obese person who doesn't have some form of health issue, on top of the issue that caused them to eat as much as they have. Skinny and fit people having health problems doesn't prove anything and bringing that up is just them saying words. It has no meaning. Being so wrong yet so confident is too common online, too many people talking out of their ass and too many people eating it up because they are simply that stupid. The whole "you're beautiful no matter how much you weigh" is superficial. Beauty is not the end all be all, especially when someone dies 30 years before they should have

[@BronzeDragon133]

Every time I point out I'm rather thin and my heart isn't so hot, the FA's scream "SEE!" Then I note, "It would be so much worse if I were obese...." and they go "No....." Er, yeah.

[@小鹿-p8f]

sure, but the condition this woman suffers from is actually incurable and unrelated to her lifestyle. Is she healthy? no, but it's a chronic, usually hereditary condition that she isn't at fault for developing, and the fact that people can't differentiate it from obesity is the real problem here.

[@BronzeDragon133]

@@小鹿-p8f No. She's morbidly obese. She ate herself there, and she can't be diagnosed from a distance, and frankly, I'm really tired of hearing it. Thanks for playing.

[@Princess.McBetch]

@@小鹿-p8f but.. she is obese. In what way is she not

[@mhmtakeyatime9000]

@@小鹿-p8f She's morbidly obese due to her lifestyle, no conditions.

[@kathrynl1503]

It honestly baffles me how FA people describe eating yourself to stage 3 obesity as "maybe not hyper-restricting any more". That and "you can't tell someone's health by looking at them". I can tell their cumulative risk of several life limiting conditions by looking at their body size, though. That works for overweight and underweight, fwiw. The denial here is palpable.

[@melchiorlise2466]

YES.

[@CherrrrBear]

Exactly. When people argue that about health and size it’s only true with moderate weight gain/loss not severe like this!

[@LanaJoy78]

Because in their minds any restriction is extreme. Eating 1 donut instead of 4 is extreme restriction.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

This is addict thinking. Addicts are full of denial and delusional thinking in general.

[@cztianaki2689]

Yup, used to be 100 lbs, I looked awful. Not even just the thinness, but I looked pale, tired, shaky, and I was passing out constantly. Multiple people in my life said that they were worried about me, purely off of the way I looked. Same goes for obesity, especially extreme obesity. I don’t think fat people should be shamed for being fat, but spreading medical misinformation to young impressionable people is where I draw the line

[@TheCegafam]

Okay… let’s just put it out there… this isn’t plus size or just simply fat… this is beyond fat, BEYOND PLUS SIZE! And that is never okay, at that size..that is not self love. I was almost hitting 500lbs, I know this, you know this John….

[@crazeekids9744]

Not anymore else’s business what someone else looks like or chooses to eat or not eat. People can literally change their gender and cut off body parts with less scrutiny than fat people get. The whole thing is BS.

[@ductape723]

Them: You can’t know someone’s health by looking at them Me: Have we collectively forgotten that jaundice exists? Cyanosis? Clubbing? Edema?? Rashes????? Did they forget that one of the first things a doctor does when you go to an appointment with you is do a physical exam, y’know, with their eyes? Yeah they stick a tool in your ear and a light in your mouth and at your eyes but all that tool is doing is helping them see!

[@stellasternchen]

You also can see sometimes when someone has problems in mental health from things like posture and walking style and body language. Of corse it is not the only criteria.

[@amethystmarii]

In nursing school, when we perform physical examinations, the FIRST thing we do is inspection. We look to see any noticeable signs of abnormalities. You pretty much hit it on the nail that we can see stuff like cyanosis, jaundice, rashes, etc. We CAN determine someone’s health by looking at them to a certain extent, but this seems to get lost within the fat acceptance community. If you’re so large that you’re growing yeast colonies in your folds, that is one hell of an issue. Jordyn is the same TikToker who went viral for a ‘fat hack’ for using tea tree oil in shampoos, body washes, and soaps to treat/prevent yeast and other severe rashes in folds. UHM?!

[@angelah6191]

Ascites, jaundice, edema, even pallor. You can definitely tell quite a bit by looking at someone.

[@cztianaki2689]

Yup! My dad has stage 4 pancreatic cancer that matasized(I know I’m not spelling that right lol) in his liver. Earlier this year he had a growth grow in the large vein of his liver, causing a blockage. How did we know to be worried and get him to the hospital? Because he was turning yellow. He was the color of a fricking apricot. So yea, we can tell some things about health, visually.

[@IZaubermausI]

I don‘t even have to look at a morbidly obese person to say that it‘s unhealthy. Cause I KNOW enough about human anatomy and that our skeleton and metabolism isn‘t made for so much weight or fat, sugar and sodium!

[@dem7556]

The detail they ignore about the whole “you can’t see if someone is healthy by the way they look” is that obesity is an illness on itself.

[@melissacaity3112]

I watch a lot of these reaction videos on this particular topic and I've never commented until now. I am a 5 ft 10 120 lb woman who hasn't had insurance for a decade-and-a-half. As a result of knowing I don't have insurance I do everything in my power to make sure I don't need the insurance. I exercise, I eat well ....I am my insurance! that's what I can afford. So I also don't have access to good health care, so I do what I need to to make sure I don't get sick. It's very heartbreaking because I have severe chronic fatigue and I can't get any help so I just deal with what I have.

[@giuliaverzeletti5621]

hoping you make it through those rough times and find more security. you're doing so great though!

[@inuhundchien6041]

Your country health care system is a travesty. It's cruel towards less fortunate people.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

I'm so sorry, I also have severe ME/CFS and it's just appalling that people in the US (which I assume you are) do not have public healthcare to deal with such an awful disease. I am fortunate enough to live in a country with public healthcare and I still struggle - it's so wrong that anyone is denied that basic right. Best wishes for your remission 💜

[@thesandravshow]

If someone is a smoker we can say it’s not healthy even if they are currently experiencing health complications but we can’t say that if they’re fat.

[@moammonster_Jess_]

The issue is that some fat people are suffering with eating disorders. There is so little compassion for those people. You see someone fat and put them all in the same box of "lazy over eater"

[@PuffKitty]

You can publically say demeaning things about smokers, in fact, and it's socially acceptable.

[@thesandravshow]

@@PuffKitty I don’t consider facts demeaning. It is a fact that smoking is not healthy just like it’s a fact that being fat is not healthy.

[@abigailxmary]

​@SandraV i think they meant more that you can openly say smoking is disgusting and no one bats an eye about it

[@DogMommy.]

As someone who is 220 pounds I wanna get healthy . I try to work out every day or every other day .I have a 1 year old who has so much energy and sometimes I can't always keep up with him so I decided something needed to change.

[@Phlimbob]

You can do it! I weighed 220 and lost 50 lbs over a year just by going on walks and cutting down on snacking.

[@AprilTheRockStar]

That's a tough decision to make, but you did it! You've got all of our support here

[@DogMommy.]

Thanks you guys I really appreciate it ! It's not easy by no means

[@scc6454]

And you can do it and you'll be so happy in the future after you have!

[@Zionandfriends]

I weighed 220 a year ago, I’ve lost almost 100lbs. You can do it. I have a 6 year old and I feel you.

[@Gaming_grandma63]

It appears to me that not only is the woman in the photo obese, but has lymphedema and/or lipedema. I feel badly for her.

[@anicameo3277]

I agree! She definitely has lipedema and possibly lymphoedema. These are serious metabolic disorders and probably all due to obesity. This poor person will probably become disabled soon if they don’t lose weight. So sad 😞

[@lesliethompson4881]

I would think so, but they would need to be checked for pitting edema. Many times being that overweight will damage the lymphatic system.

[@r0zugorudo]

That’s 100% lipedema. Dead giveaway is the “cuffing” look at the ankles due to the fluid buildup.

[@bulletproofair]

​@@r0zugorudoIt's so bad at her ankles that I was actually thinking she wasn't wearing shoes and those were photoshopped onto her 🙈.

[@emmalewis2237]

Physical manifestations of poor health are extremely common. Hair loss/thinning, sallow skin, under eye bags, premature aging & wrinkling, cracked/ridged nails, extremely overweight/underweight, acne & other skin problems, the list goes on. For reproductive reasons, it's important that we're able to get a reasonable idea of someone's health by looking at them.

[@anonymouse6703]

Exactly, ding ding ding! It's a natural human instinct to select a healthy partner to ensure healthy kids, so without even consciously thinking about it, we immediately deem someone unattractive when we detect obvious unhealthy traits. The obese people want to claim fatphobia and force us to find them sexually desirable and it's never going to happen. But instead of putting in the work, they choose to be angry and blame us for their unattractiveness.

[@armorris82]

Male pattern baldness is a sign of poor health?

[@anonymouse6703]

@@armorris82 She didn't say male pattern baldness, she said hair loss/thinning. It can happen to women too. When I didn't realize how malnutritioned I was, my hair thinned out at the top to where you could see right through to my scalp.

[@Aceofwolves]

Jaundice has entered the chat.

[@CherrrrBear]

“Healthiest when they’re fat” - that’s not true for the obese or extremely obese. They say that about moderately overweight healthy adults, that’s who it’s true for.

[@Moose92411]

At 3:00, she failed. CLEARLY the implication was that the overweight person is physically unhealthy, but she counters with an argument that anyone could be experiencing mental health problems? That's a offical fallacy and indicates a weak position.

[@sarajerde8280]

"there are many reasons people could be fat, like going on antidepressants" Boy, they're really upping the caloric value of antidepressants these days. Mixing prozac into a sugar-paste?

[@ViolentRainbow]

Yeah for real, I feel like people see the "may cause weight gain" side effect and think "oh well nothing I can do now and just eat whatever the hell they want like it's some sort of excuse! All these people want is an excuse to give up and let it be ok and not their own fault or a result of their own laziness or lack of motivation and that is just sad, who wants to live that way???

[@Faythe1981]

Hello! I just discovered your channel after embarking on my 2nd weight loss journey (lost 140lbs first go around) and I extremely appreciate your G-rated commentary along with down to earth attitude. You've earned yourself a new subscriber!

[@pixxiestix666]

10:30 I literally made the same exact face when she said that. 🤦‍♀️ Excess fat is unhealthy period. Our joints and blood work will absolutely catch up. I'm 5'2" 3/4 age 35, and my scale afew days ago told me I'm at 51% body fat. I feel ok, blood work is normal, but I know damn well I'm not healthy. I'm on day 2 of the 75 Hard Challenge and alternate day fasting. It's ok to lose fat when you have it to lose. If we don't lose the excess by our 40's we're seriously going to feel it. And I have a feeling people don't talk enough about how much it really physically sucks being obese. It sucks. A lot.

[@MsGlitterBombz]

Lol I also so very disagree with that stupid statement that people are fat due to fat discrimination. That is incredibly ignorant. I'm fat because of trauma and I turn to food to deal with my emotions. That's MY problem. Her saying that is just her playing victim.

[@DeadLkeMe]

I've heard these sentiments before: "I don't hate you because you're fat. You're fat because I hate you" *Falls backwards into crowd of supportive fellow teen girls*

[@gypsylaine4515]

You can't tell me a 600 pound person is healthy, and yes, I can tell that just by looking at them! Nor would a 70 pound adult be healthy, and again, I can tell by looking at them. But these obese people that try to claim they are healthy are just crazy. If you are young enough, you CAN be healthy for a while, but only for a limited time. That amount of weight and stress constantly wearing your body down will eventually catch up with you.

[@ViolentRainbow]

Uh oh, I can hear the stampede of angry blue haired heavily tattooed obese women with multiple nose rings coming for you! You've angered the herd! Run for your life!!! They'll trample you to death with their bizarrely tiny feet which look incredibly disproportionate to their legs and- OH GOD! Now they're coming for me! WE'RE DOOMED!!!

[@DadBodtoBadDad]

Amen John, these people are getting ridiculous. There’s always a way out.

[@xzy5690]

I didn't know that being discriminated against causes joint pain. Lol

[@sabby3433]

I just hate that it's all or nothing with the world we live in. Why do I see more 400 pound "models" doing ad campaigns than a model that is a more normal and COMMON plus size, like 14-18? I am obese myself, but losing weight (almost 70 lbs down so far, 50 to go!) and I can confidently say that anyone that large will have health and MOBILITY issues if they do not already - Jordan makes almost all her videos from her car in NYC, an extremely walkable city with robust public transit but i would be shocked if she could fit through the turnstiles let alone bring herself up and down the stairs. It is just sad imo to encourage other people to eat what they want and that it doesn't matter if youre extremely obese. If you want to destroy your own future, fine, but don't encourage other people to as well.

[@sabby3433]

@@BronzeDragon133 eh, a size 14 isn't monstrously huge and a size 14 model with typical hourglass proportions would not look bad in clothing. the only thing you said that even comes close to answering my point was "there are no social points awarded." but to that i say there are more social points with more NORMAL people and not HAES losers if they show clothes on a a size say, 14/16 woman than a size 30 woman.

[@BronzeDragon133]

@@sabby3433 Eh, forget it. "the only thing you said that even comes close to answering my point..." Original reply deleted; the unappreciative can stew in their ignorance.

[@SlahVimburg]

I’m overweight. I also have high blood pressure. High blood pressure runs in my family, even in those who are a more healthy weight. I still plan to lose weight in hopes that my blood pressure goes down. Even if it doesn’t, it will help other issues in my life. I understand that losing weight may not help with everything wrong in my life, but it sure won’t hurt anything.

[@alelricstreamer]

I gained weight because of my antidepressants and my hashimoto's disease causes hypothyroidism. I gained 55 lbs because of that. I can feel everyday how the weight is affecting me. It's hard to walk, run, go up stairs, i get out of breath constantly. But I still work out, i still eat healthy and slowly I'm putting the weight off. I lost 15 lbs already and my life improved A LOT. You can clearly say I'm healthier now that I'm 15 lbs down!!

[@YOUNGTHUGGAMANELAFLARE]

I’m down almost 50 lbs, it’s not a crazy amount but I can tell you the DIFFERENCE is night and day. I was always short of breath, tired, my body would ache, I didn’t have the energy to do things and that’s just the beginning… I can’t imagine being 200,300 lbs +, the issues that come with that, the way that affects your body, your energy, your mood. I can’t ever see myself going in that unhealthy direction again.. the quality of life is just awful. I don’t see any single positive thing from being overweight.

[@poppyakers]

'Even skinny people get type 2 diabetes!' Yeah, and non smokers also get cancer. That doesn't mean there's no correlation.

[@megsley]

I commend you for remaining calm and respectful in the face of this increasing lunacy!

[@stacyq7656]

As someone that has an autoimmune disease, I don’t get why she had to include that. There are things that habits can change and there are things that are environmental or genetic.

[@michellem4118]

I am obese. I don't think I have ever been descriminated against. Have I had to deal with the random jerk here and there yes, but for the most part people are polite and don't even look at me weird. Unless chairs can commit discrimination by throwing up arm rests 😅

[@bethanybsoprano]

Women get harassed in the street on a daily basis and live in constant fear of SA, yet we live longer than men. We also have a pay gap and do more emotional/domestic labor, yet we still live longer than men. I agree that fat people face discrimination, but so do a lot of other groups of people, wayyyyy more than fat people. (I'm very aware as a white straight size woman I'm incredibly privileged, I just don't want to speak to other experiences than my own)

[@nightsgrow6575]

Good point!

[@BronzeDragon133]

The pay gap thing's a bit of a myth for a variety of reasons (women don't tend to work arctic fishing boats, statistically time spent on maternity leave does damage one's chances at promotion, and an open salary comparison shows very little, if any difference that can't be fairly easily explained [surrogate not being a male profession, for example]). As for some of the rest, please don't speak to the experiences of gentlemen whose lives you have not lived. Some of us do worry about some of those things, do emotional/domes... Eh, you already tuned out.

[@stefanie7588]

The pay gap is easily debunked and you don’t have anymore privilege than anyone else. Take credit for putting effort into your life. No one else is in charge of it but you.

[@3namechangezalowdevry90day7]

@@BronzeDragon133 Maternity leave? USA women have around two kids on average and get maybe a week off for each one IF they have a career, not a "Mc job" and have enough PTO saved! How is a couple weeks off during the span of a career going to put someone's experience level behind by so much that it justifies lower pay? From your statement, it sounds like you're pretty vague on what the terms you're using mean. If a male makes more than a female(or the other way around) in the SAME job, that's wage discrimination, AKA pay gap. if women are not hired to work on a ship, that's hiring discrimination, which is separate.

[@3namechangezalowdevry90day7]

@@stefanie7588Let's hear you debunk it then. Still plenty of sexists and racists out there and many of them own businesses. Because discussing salary is tabu, employees don't even know when they're being paid less for the same labor as their co-workers.

[@vinnym8461]

I like how you said that this kind of talk takes away peoples agency. If I was still obese I would be the kind of person that would see this and stop trying to better myself. I would think it was hopeless. I wonder if these tiktokers understand the potential damage they are creating.

[@jneilson7568]

They don't care, they're either misinformed idiots, or uncaring attention seekers who found a niche.

[@Deshwie]

I'm obese (about 100lbs overweight) and I have literally never experienced discrimination because of my weight. Some people just want to be victims.

[@elizabethblakley2876]

I have to tell you my good news! I’ve lost sixty lbs and now I don’t have any more fat in my liver and my labs and blood pressure are great now! So now I can just maintain my diet changes and focus on getting super fit! Thanks for your inspiration!

[@kirnpu]

Congratulations Elizabeth - keep up the good work!

[@LLCoolJ_25]

I’m fairly sure that if you have “cankles”, (I’m sorry for the word😭) it indicates a problem with your liver. So yes…you can sometimes tell if someone’s unhealthy based on how they look. Same with having yellow eyes. It means you have issues with your liver.

[@alexushitz6114]

Dark patches of skin is a good indicator of type two diabetes too I mean I get one patch on my cheek that I cover with makeup but it was the first identifier of having type 2 for me

[@melodybrundage8844]

Yes and congestive heart failure.

[@Evi_Evi86]

Or lipedema

[@babynyancat2002]

I was hung up on the shoe thing How do you look at a picture like that and not see you have real issues?

[@robertholmes2306]

Great commentary John!!! People will live longer if there's less of them to love. Fat accept is fat denial

[@goodnplenty1873]

There's a multitude of medical areas/ practices that determine health and function using appearance as a factor. To say that this simple truth is nonsense is bonkers behavior.

[@jadejohnson4450]

I’m a 29 year old 5ft5in female. I weigh only 177 lbs and am considered overweight. A lot of days I feel sluggish and can tell I have too much weight on me. I can’t imagine being overweight to the extent of some of these body positive people and walking around preaching how great it is. I know they don’t feel good. They have joint pain. They chafe. Get overheated and out of breath easily. They don’t fit in normal sized chairs. They can’t go do normal things like go to a zoo and walk several miles throughout the day to explore. There’s no way they love being that big no matter how hard to try and say they do.

[@okaycola2]

You can tell if someone is healthy at a glance most of the time; the same way u determine someone is drunk when inebriated. Nails & hair density including skin tone & body odor are all good indicators

[@StaceyAnthonies]

I find it funny how Tess Holliday claims shes healthy despite also claiming to have an active Ed. And of course she binges because that’s a whole other thing but just funny. That wouldn’t qualify as someone being healthy imo

[@CWM-xl8ki]

The argument of medications like antidepressants causing huge weight gain frustrates me. To quote my dr “ C you are the one that puts the cake in your face”. 😂 I am on high dose quetiapine and sertraline, there is correlation’s between quetiapine and weight gain. Mainly there’s an increased appetite. But I can’t put the blame on that drug as ultimately I ate and drank all the shitty food to excess, I gained the weight and I am responsible for all my weight loss. If just feels like a bit of a cop out.

[@BronzeDragon133]

I take an enormous dose of an SNRI for migraines and eternally dance on the edge of serotonin syndrome. Yes, I gained weight. I took it right back off after my neurologist pointed out that just maybe 200 pounds wasn't so healthy for five foot eight...

[@priscillaflores7656]

Exactly. I hate when women say they gained weight because of birth control. As If birth control somehow secretes calories into their body. Sure it can cause some water retention but I doubt those 50lbs they gained are water retention pounds

[@powderandpaint14]

People do need to be advised that the meds can increase their appetite though and to keep an eye on it. Weight gain is very common particularly on some antipsychotic drugs and antidepressants. When people are already struggling with those illnesses it can be easy for weight to creep on.

[@JayMich29]

​@@powderandpaint14 have a very good psychiatrist in our clinic that does just that. He warns them about appetite increase but also prescribes a walk or some form of exercise in addition meds to assist with easing depressive symptoms

[@powderandpaint14]

@@JayMich29 that's great. I actually lost some weight with my medication so you never know how they will affect you until you actually start taking them.

[@kaciewarren2626]

Ok, nursing student here! You most certainly CAN tell a lot about someone’s health based on how they look. A physical assessment is literally the most basic part of diagnosing. Browning skin around the neck indicates type 2 diabetes. Based on just looking at someone’s neck and seeing acanthosis nigricans you can reasonably assume they have type 2 diabetes….. Chicken pox? How do you diagnose that? Lol you just see them. It’s crazy to argue you can’t tell anything about a persons health based on how the look. Of course you can!

[@wouldntyouliketoknow12345]

Yeah... No. Start with what you eat. I promise you're not eating well. My cousin came to me wanting to lose weight, as she's having a hard time getting around & now struggling to breathe. She just hit 40 and is not doing well at all. I know you can't make too many changes at once. She drinks 5 Big Gulps a day of soda. I asked her to cut out 1 Big Gulp. We're drinking water in the morning instead. & we're going on a 5-minute walk every day. She really didn't want to do that. She told me no. She wanted the magic pill, or the one piece of food that would do all the work. I told her she has to do the work, so I'll be there when she's ready. & this attitude and mindset aren't only with her. It's with a lot of these people. Another woman was asking for advice, claiming that healthy foods are too expensive & take too much time to cook. I once again, recommended just swapping out soda for water. There's no time exchange and you'd actually be saving money. Then she blew up about how that was not going to do anything (meaning she saw no health benefits) but make her miserable. Sure, but soda is like poison, so your body is going to react to it as if it's poison. A slow poison.

[@talia8493]

“If you really care about somebody tell them the truth” I felt that statement deeply because I was eating my self away and my friends were telling me I look good like that. Deep down in me I knew I didn’t but I wanted to believe it. My brother came through with the truth and I’ve since lost 10kgs since Dec last year. I was 93 kgs by then

[@weruleyoudrool]

I thought my friends didn’t say shit about my weight gain because they wanted to look better than me. I’m smaller and fitter than majority of my so-called friends now.

[@dublinlassdana6544]

I’m sorry it’s getting to the point where they want to be accepted so they don’t have to be accountable for being unhealthy!!!

[@throwawayaccnt144]

I am that example that she gave of people gaining large amounts of weight rapidly by taking numerous medications that cause weight gain for the first time and having genetic/health factors that make you gain weight (PCOS and thyroid). But despite the psyciatric and physical health medications, and birth control and even a disability that prevents me from doing exercise outside the home or standing aerobics, I stopped making up excuses and took personal responsibility to change my life and habits forever. I've lost 70lbs just this year. People don't need coddling and to be lued to about being healthy even if they are morbidly obese. I might not have had any health issues YET because of my weight but I was putting pressure on my joints. Health is multifactorial, and as someone with a hidden disability (not weight related) I know how frustrating it can be when people make health assumptions. However, with extreme weights at either end, it's safe to assume the person is unhealthy.

[@maremi3341]

Models don't need to be healthy to be featured, I'm all for showing fat, skinny, disabled models. Clothes should be made for everyone regardless of health. At the same time, I've see Jordan's videos on instagram and they are straight up spreading misinformation by saying that being morbidly obese is not unhealthy and that doctors are fatphobic for saying it is. That I do have a problem with. I know this video doesn't feature Jordan's takes but the takes of this woman are pretty much the same as theirs.

[@calathearosy]

Thank you! I feel like a lot of us are missing the point. While there's absolutely a conversation that needs to be had about being obese and the health risks of that, a fat person simply modeling for an ad is not inherently making any claims about health. Unless I'm missing some text on the ad or something I don't think that they were trying to make any statements on health, they were just there to model. So I think we've all gone quite off topic, although I do think this conversation should be had in the proper contexts. If a disabled person was pictured in an ad sitting in their wheelchair, unless the ad was specifically about health than their health is irrelevant, they're just there to model and they just happen to be disabled and in a wheelchair.

[@CoMorbiditty]

Where in the history of no where, do obese people get paid less than slimmer people?!?!?!?! WHERE?!?!?!?!

[@j.artiste8596]

What also disturbs me is that HAES people say that "you can't reject me (6exually) because that's fatphobic". I usually ask them if they would date an overweight man. They go LIVID! They scream and yell about how they DESERVE a fit man, how they are beautiful enough to get a man with 6-pack, they DEMAND that the guy should be 10/10 to get the honor of dating them! How do they not think that is superficial and fatphobic?

[@SilverSkitty]

I think in a lot of their minds, “some people are naturally fat and some are naturally fit”. They consider themselves to be “naturally fat” and therefore see nothing wrong with wanting fit men, falsely thinking that these men put zero effort into their eating and exercise habits

[@Sheepy007]

I am not aware of a single chronic condition to which it's negative effects arent severely increased if your are obese.

[@WittyKitten]

"Science shows the only reason fat people are unhealthy is discrimination" 😂 as someone in medical school right now & learning the most current medical information, this is wildly incorrect!

[@megweeno]

My 2 favorite key terms that immediately remove validity in someones argument... "Science has proven" (which if you study the sciences, info cannot prove a fact or theory, only SUPPORT due to additional info and discoveries proceeding lolz) and "Do your own research" (cause giiirl your Buzzfeed article is not research.) Great video. The mentality behind this woman's feedback kept me fat and miserable for several years.

[@namelessghost666]

"you can't tell if someone is healthy by looking at them" but you can tell if someone is sick if they are pale, they have the face too red and look febril, yes, you can tell if someone isn't healthy or is sick by looking at them

[@Uneclipsed]

“Fat people have existed but we haven’t seen this (fat people modeling) before. Art history tells you that she’s wrong. Fashion dictates body type trends. That said being that morbidly obese is a health issue. Would I, as a stranger, go up to her and say that to her face? Of course not. It’s not my place to do so and I’m positive she already knows. But don’t pretend it isn’t a health issue. Just because there are legitimate reasons how a person gets that big that are worthy of empathy doesn’t mean that it’s somehow not a problem for that person. Truly I didn’t even realize just how physically uncomfortable just existing was until I started losing weight.

[@SM-rp5xd]

One thing I'm learning is to never underestimate the power of vegetables. In the last month, I've worked my way up to eating 10 cups of salad every day (no dressing, just 1 tbsp olive oil and sauerkraut for flavor and digestion). I can barely finish 7 ounces of protein after that and I stay satiated all night. My whole adult life I suffered with such bad fatigue and in just one month my energy has skyrocketed and I've lost weight. If only these obese people had the discipline to make healthy changes like that, they wouldn't have to expect the whole world to conform to their weight - they'd be able to fit in an airplane seat, the MRI table, etc without blaming us for their problem and making angry excuses as to why they can't lose weight. They need to address that they have an addiction and work at overcoming it. It takes work, yes, but those that have done it want to shout at the rooftops to let you know how much better they feel and how their quality of life improved.

[@seitanbeatsyourmeat666]

Yes! Calorie density works for weight loss. Keep at it, you’ve got this

[@SM-rp5xd]

@@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Thank you! I've never felt so happy. It feels so good to be taking control of my life like this. I actually look forward to grocery shopping and cooking at home, something I never thought would happen. I don't think I've ever experienced being fully satiated before because I was eating all the wrong things, and feeling satisfied after my meals contributes to my happiness. Anyway, thanks so much for your kind encouragement!😇

[@倪文瑄]

I had a very nasty encounter with Jordan Hall before I knew anything of their social media infamy. I gently advised them to get in touch with their doctor as I noted that the swelling in their lower legs could possibly be lymphedema - especially given that when referencing their older pictures it was less pronounced many months ago and now seemed to be impacting their mobility. They were very angry at me, told me off for giving "unsolicited medical advice" and called me fatphobic. I did not mention their weight. I think the idea that FAs are not at all aware of obesity-associated medical conditions is a bit of a farce.

[@aleamilr]

I love how they would never bring this same energy to defending the heroin chic trend in fashion. If its okay to notice and be against models being dangerously thin, then it should also be okay to notice and be against models being dangerously fat. The thing about modeling as an industry is that it IS meant to be aspirational. We dont argue that dangerously thin models are just existing in their bodies and its fine to glamorize their body, so why is the same issue on the other end of the spectrum green lit?

[@Lineyakitty]

I think the "can you tell if someone is heathly by looking at them?" is not really the right question. You can't really tell if someone is healthy but you can typically identify signs of being unhealthy

[@lexximoon3190]

As someone who works in nursing. Clinicals are in family medicine, internal medicine, and urgent care…. They need to stop with the discrimination, because it is such a small small part of it. In all my years in healthcare and as a bigger person (I’m fat but working on it and it’s okay), I’ve not once been discriminated because of my size and not a single patient I’ve seen, and there has been hundreds, has ever complained or to my knowledge felt discriminated because of their size… they see and opportunity and feed it to fit their personal agenda.

[@mygetawayart]

the biggest problem in the fitness community as a whole, whether you're talking about fat people, skinny people or even bodybuilders is the fact that people keep using extreme talking points that make their own points, completely disregarding the sea of middleground that exists.

[@chattylily]

I agree with the fact that no one owes anyone health. It's just frustrating to hear science deniers mingle in the mix of an initially positive movement. It is difficult because on the one hand, we want to say to people who struggle with food, but also drugs alchohol, depression, any type of mental issue really, "it's not your fault', but also "there is hope". I don't think these two notions are exclusive. But people need to hear these at different times of their journey maybe... In any case. Very hard to be nuanced and respectful, thank you for managing that !

[@melchiorlise2466]

Empathy and realism are not mutually exclusive. People never understand that.

[@chattylily]

@amandak.4246 even if that were true (that you owe others to be physically and mentally able), where do you draw the line? Are you responsible for getting lung cancer through second hand smoking? Are you responding for a mental breakdown ? For living in a food desert? Jesus and even then, would shaming be the best way to enforce being responsible for one's well being?

[@katrpatter]

On the claim that the only reason why people with obesity are unhealthy because of discrimination, how would fat activists explain gout? Gout was once called "the disease of kings" and "rich man's disease" because it was wealthy and socially privileged (aka, not discriminated against) people who developed it precisely because they had the time and resources to consume more than they physically needed. . The problem when you argue in absolutes ("all the time," "the only reason," "there is no other") is that all it takes is one example to invalidate your point. . Thanks, as always, for the video! I always appreciate your perspective.

[@divingmonk]

Don't confuse the "right to have an opportunity to apply" with "right to have a job." Big difference.

[@CarissaBelair]

Fat people have always existed but definitely not at the sizes and rates we’re seeing now. I agree to represent them (me)! But it has gotten out of hand how far people will bury their head in the sand to defend someone calling them “healthy” when they’re not.

[@emeryltekutsu4357]

I know people who have a lot of health issues. You can often tell based on things like looks or even smell (my mom, for example, distinctly remembers how her uncle smelled like a rotting corpse when he had AIDs). My cousin has a lot of health problems. You can tell things like he's thin and has a strange pallor. He does not look like a healthy adult male. People who smoke often smell or have leathery skin and gravelly voices. Etc. I have no idea why they're incapable of telling when someone seems unhealthy. That just seems disingenuous to me. You very often CAN tell that something's wrong. Not always, but we're built to avoid things like illnesses, and so it's basic survival for us to pinpoint these things. Someone who is obese is ill, period. It's very easy for people to see. We know how bad all that fat is for the body. We know how bad it is for your internal organs/joints/heart/etc. Many of us know people with weight-related diabetes, or who have had a stroke, or have a mountain of medications they have to take for all their problems. The issue isn't that we hate these people. My dad is obese, and I hope he can successfully lose the weight (though I think he tries to diet too intensely and then ends up unable to continue the diet without cheating). But he never says that his extra weight is good for him. He knows it's bad. We know it's bad. I see all the health issues he has. It's obvious the issues, the many, many issues that come with being obese. "I don't have diabetes yet" is not the epitome of good health. It's usually that they're young and it hasn't caught up to them yet, but everyone can clearly see that it will if they don't change. That fat isn't going to suddenly be nutritious for their body. It's going to be a weight destroying every part of them, inside and out, slowly. The fact that sometimes people are sick and you can't tell doesn't mean anything. "That person over there looks healthy but is sick" =/= "Being 400lbs isn't sickly." They're completely unrelated.

[@mmia828]

As someone who’s had been bullied severely when I was in middle school for being fat and just beat on for being fat in middle school. And also as someone who suffers from health issues due to being big I wouldn’t wish being big on anyone . But I agree with everything you have stated here John .

[@misskris1900]

Why is it they can stick an Amberlynn Reid in a photo and not an Eugenia Cooney? They are both sick. They are both easy to put down. It's society not the people. Duh.

[@thecookinmama]

I took a deep dive on this subject and it seems that some in the fat acceptance community have gone off the rails. Shaming others in the “community” for not being fat enough or not having fat friends. It’s weird to me that people who want acceptance at every size would think like this. She made the point in the TIK TOK that gaining weight can help people’s health. So can losing 20 pounds! It can reverse the severity of diabetes, liver issues, cholesterol, and even heart issues. I don’t want anyone to think they are just stuck and try not to fix their health issues. Also, I believe some won’t lose weight (who may need to for health) because they don’t want to be shamed by the fat acceptance community they are part of! People like communities and feeling part of something bigger! But It’s getting real bizarre out there in Tik Tok land. I really enjoy your commentary on this subject, it’s not an easy topic to discuss! Thanks for doing it!

[@ghostoyster]

why is the conversation about models always fat vs skinny. i want models who are sitting normally, stomachs out, no posing. i want to see how bras fit in daily life, how pants look while standing normally. THATS the major issue with modelling, it’s all POSED.

[@ghostoyster]

@@amandak.4246 are you dumb? bodies bend and move and even "thin" people have some fat

[@oversol5469]

Fat acceptance always points to mental health and non fat related illnesses like it disproves the notion of obesity being a health problem.

[@ttrev007]

she even cut the clip short leaving out the part where she even points out the lipedema in her lower legs

[@leonaheraty3760]

You're right, John. Weight loss is totally possible and doable. True, it's not easy, but many good things in life worth having and doing aren't easy. We can do it! 😊

[@Jean-qn4fy]

Nobody deserves romantic love. Romantic love is earned. When something is deserved, that assumes that someone else has an obligation to provide. That is ridiculous. Who has that obligation?

[@muttleydk]

What is the point with fat, well, its something adapted over 1000's of years, when we eat sugar, dopamine is released telling us to eat more, and more and more, "sugar reward system", the energy we dont use right now, is stored as fat for later use.. That way we didnt die when we for longer periodes couldnt find food.. Today we never burn the extra fat stored for later, because we never have long periodes with no access to food.. Some people's "sugar reward system" is better then others, so some people have more sugar cravings then others, and some people get more energy from the same food as others.. thats why people are not the same, some can eat and eat and dont get fat, others get fat very easy because their brain scream for sugar.. this is ofc a simple way to explain, and there are tons of other factors also.. but the main point is that the survival mechanism that used to save people, is now killing people.. So in short, almost no fat person has a broken body/system, their body on the other hand works very good, almost no fat person cant lose weight if they do it right... but for most fat people, and i speak really fat, BMI 45+ they have to quit all candy, all cake, all fast food and all sugar drinks, and for life.. this is of cause hard, but not at all impossible, and after only 14 days, sugar cravings are almost gone.. you still have to fight many things and it takes alot to fight the mind, the first 2-3 month are the worst, but after that, fruits will give you just as good a feeling as sugar used to.. you can lose weight sitting still this way, no need for any hard work, but ofc walking and things help.. Edit: I did write this before i even saw the video, i am just so sad how thing are going in the world.. I lost 43kg from 142 to 99kg in like 8 month, and still going down, and even i am still too fat, i feel so much better in so many ways.. i quit candy and all that, and i would never go back to the size i was no matter if its healthy or not.. First now i see the channel name, and i remember that you, i think, is the one who lost 200lbs or something wild.. so amazing work.. ill sub right away :) - back to the video lol :D

[@ktbear21]

"....but skinny people also deal with chronic conditions." Here's the truth. Yes, chronic conditions can affect anyone, regardless of weight. However, there's more to it than that. Being at a healthy weight can vastly improve your symptoms. I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome. My collagen production is screwed up, regardless of my weight. I will always have problems with my joints. BUT... I can say with absolute certainty that being 360 lbs did not help my condition or my joints. Losing appx 200 lbs and keeping it off DID. I get that I will always have this condition, but it's not an excuse to not take care of myself. This is the part that always drives me insane. It's like people who get emphysema from smoking... and still continue to smoke. Like, I understand quitting smoking won't cure your condition, but why would you purposefully make it worse for yourself??? And then blame others for it???? I guess my perspective is completely different from these individuals. My grandpa was blind, and he taught me so much about doing all you can with what you have. It's true, we are all not dealt the same hand at life. But, it's up to you to play the hand as best you can, regardless of what you were dealt. It's sad seeing so many people rush to be a victim... mostly of their own doing 🤷‍♀️

[@DarkAquaVII]

What bothers me is that even without the science and studies (since ancient Egypt as well) proving that obesity is unhealthy. You would feel unhealthy in many ways, and down right know you'll have limitations and medical problems. Not because of "discrimination". I went from a healthy bmi, fit and healthy to an overweight bmi, unfit and ate too much, including junk food back when I was 20 - 21. I was aware of the feeling and knew I needed to do something about it before it gets worse, so I did, best decision I made. Just being overweight felt unhealthy and I can't imagine what it'll be like being obese.

[@Ali-kf5bd]

Antidepressants definitely can contribute to weight gain... it happened to me. But they don't just magically make you fat. The majority of it is because they fuck with your appetite and make it way harder to stay in a deficit. In my case the med I was on also made me less motivated to work out. I only realized how badly zoloft was affecting my appetite and energy AFTER I switched to vilazadone and my appetite regulated again and I started going back to the gym. No meds isn't really an option for me right now with my current mental health but switching to a new med can help.

[@rowan5796]

Yeah I mean modeling is literally selling your likeness and appearance, which there's nothing wrong with. People are also going to make comments and observations about that, because they are being marketed to using images of yourself that you have decided to sell. If someone's job is totally unrelated to what they look like, then nobody should be commenting on their appearance because it's rude as hell, but when your appearance is your job, then receiving public feedback on work that you know is meant for the public? Like I don't understand how anyone could think that's not a part of the deal. Also like if you're modeling, and happy with yourself, and getting consistent work, then who cares if some random on the internet doesn't think you're beautiful?

[@89dannj]

if you can see their bones they are clearly unhealthy, if someone is so overweight they cannot walk they are unhealthy. how someone looks is a pretty accurate way of determining their physical health

[@brettbecomesautistic]

Denial is a big fat river in Egypt

[@maryolguin4372]

As someone at a healthy weight but who eats like crap, I can confirm there are other aspects of my appearance that give away my lack of great health habits; dull skin and hair, acne, circles under my eyes, etc.

[@mariaortiz7610]

In a recent tiktok, Jorden said that there was nothing wrong with being 600lbs. I cannot stand them

[@OGA103]

The depths of delusion these people are in is quite impressive. You have to really be detached from reality to believe that weighing 500 pounds is a-okay!

[@alelricstreamer]

Love your vids!!

[@Mina-ok5qm]

I agree with you and really don't have much to add. You touched on it all. Agreeing here and there when points she made make sense but calling out the obvious nonsense.

[@dflatt1783]

I currently have the vid and am binging on YT. When I look in the mirror I look like an extra in 28 Days Later. The human eye is keen to pick up on signs of sickness/health. It's a survival mechanism that has developed over thousands of years of evolution. Is it 100 percent accurate? Of course not. Nothing is. Please remember these are the same people who tell us that exercise and diet aren't a determining factor in weight loss/health. They want you to think genetics is the primary component of obesity (apparently this 'gene' just manifested itself recently about the same time as the propagation of ultra processed foods around the world. Look at pictures from the 1920s, 1930s, or 1950s). They constantly misdirect and confuse. Accountability is a dirty word to them.

[@JessKaplan]

Sumo wrestlers have been shown to have a 10 years shorter life expectancy.

[@kodakoala]

Yes but there are also plenty of people on TikTok spreading super toxic false information and telling people to just give up and be big and also saying that they are glorifying obesity they flat out say those words That's where it needs to end. And this woman got so offended and like you said models of all sizes have gotten ridiculed forever since the dawn of time You're never good enough so if you're going to put yourself out there that comes with the territory of being a public figure

[@vladimirraphael444]

Blaming "discrimination" is another way of removing agency. You eat 10 cupcakes a day doesn't matter if your doctor is prejudiced against fat people.

[@juliac6256]

john is easily the most reasonable and nuanced person in the diet/health/fitness world…shouts out john