Fat Acceptance Tiktok DESTROYING Reality

[@midnightsoup333]

"just because something isn't your fault, doesn't mean that it isn't your responsibility" wow i needed to hear that

[@Antigone10]

I was diagnosed with Myasthenia Gravis around Xmas, not my fault. I walk twice a day with a weighted pack on because it is my body and nobody else was responsible for me to overcome my disease and be able to put my cane away in the closet. Life throws things at us, we use what we have to respond and improve our situation...or we don't and we complain from a bed we can't get out of.

[@MusikGirl23]

I also had an MG diagnosis…but we’re still not 100% sure what went on as I had all the symptoms but tests were negative inconclusive….currently my muscles at 85-90% or where I would like them, and I intend to work to keep them that way if not improve a bit!

[@Antigone10]

@@MusikGirl23 I was seronegative too! I eventually got sent to Duke and the single fiber nerve tests were clear but all the other tests kept coming back negative. It was a crazy time as I'd gone mostly blind, couldn't stand most of the time etc. but there was a bit of doubt from the docs. Honestly I didn't care what was wrong, I know how to train to improve so I just decided I was going to try and train my way back into walking and being able to drive a car. I kept hearing from people on the forums how they avoided exercise and were getting worse. Some of their issues sounded like typical inactivity issues just getting added on top of MG stuff. I don't need a heart attack and diabetes with my side of cane either, lol. Hope you keep beating ur MG!

[@netteloveszebras]

I had a coworker who loved to say “not my fault, still my problem” and hearing that changed the way I think about things. Of course there will be things that are beyond our ability to change, but it’s up to us and only us to make what choices we can to keep ourselves healthy.

[@manuelochoa9266]

Well, that's what life is actually is!!!

[@liloreoinya]

What a weird society we've created.

[@whimsy0451]

Abundance and self-indulgence taken to Huxley's Brave New World levels

[@manuelochoa9266]

No kidding!!!!!😅😅😅😅

[@ald5698]

“Body positivity” movement was so detrimental for me. And now I struggle with high blood pressure and constant pain because at one point I truly believed there wouldn’t be any consequences for eating everything I wanted and not exercising. I was so desperate to just love myself and it was easier to love being obese than it was to actually work on it. I deleted all social media and will never look back. I want to live a long time and I don’t love being fat or unhealthy. Doesn’t mean I hate myself.

[@penneallarrabbiata-nj9ji]

@ald5698 mhumm... ok, hi, I'm Italian and i hate body positivity movement and feeders community and I feel like an athletic man, I love combat sports and mountaineering. in my life i had many fatty girlfriends, in fact i like chubby women 🤔 size 10-12 ok, i prepared meals with less calories for their health every time my girlfriends complained me, because they wanted tasty fatty and processed foods like lasagna or Arancine . the Womans they have a problem with sacrifice and hard work.

[@ByAzuraByAzuraByAzura]

@@penneallarrabbiata-nj9ji Sexism isn't an explanation for weight gain bro. Plenty of men out there who don't put in effort or hard work into things too. Your girlfriends don't dictate the entire Gender of women inherently.

[@Zakuyuki]

Thank you for sharing your experience! I wish you all the best on your journey! It can't have been easy to make this U-turn in your mindset. How did you realize that you were on the wrong path?

[@hannahb9195]

Poverty definitely effects it. The thing I'm uncomfortable with is the attacking/shaming of 'restrictive EDs' or the accusatory nature of pointing them out, as though they are a moral failing, combined with saying anything towards fat folk is ableism. I have been forced out of disability spaces and called privileged by people who couldn't hear about my upbringing or experiences of discrimination/disability abuse without saying I was 'trauma dumping' or 'triggering' them. They force themselves into the spaces for vulnerable people and we have to shut up about our experiences and be presumed privileged.

[@slavbarbie]

I HATE the accusation of "trauma dumping"!! Pop psychology is out of control

[@vampnico]

It is so interesting how "underprivilaged" means something so different in the US than in my home country. I grew up poor and because of that I never had junk food or sweets as a child. Fruits and vegetables are the easiest thing to get when you are poor in my hometown. Only the rich kids could buy chips and so on. We had no fastfood chains in my hometown, no McDonald's. We had a 0lace you could get hotdogs at but it was soooo expensive. Restaurants served traditional foods, normal portions. If I tell someone from the West that I did not eat sweets or junk food growing up they either think my family was rich or that my mom was this crazy diet lady who wanted me to be skinny. Both of which are false. My grandma had a garden and chickens. Growing up my favorite food was salad haha. When I visited family in Sweden they couldn't understand how a child could love vegetables this much and how I never asked them to buy me chocolate or chips.

[@netteloveszebras]

My mom had a similar perspective on vegetarians. In her home country, only poor people can’t afford to eat meat, and to openly claim vegetarianism is like announcing that you’re poor. Here it tends to be more well-off people who go into plant based and vegetarian diets.

[@KG9551]

Yes, in the US, the government has subsidized corn, wheat, sugar and soy to the detriment of almost every other crop. That and having an almost completely unregulated processed food corporations monopolizing our food supply has created a country where high calorie, low nutrient, highly processed crud food is way cheaper than actual food. It’s really insane.

[@simplyspice7916]

​@@KG9551 Also, there are what's called "food deserts", where in underprivileged neighborhoods you can't find a grocery store that sells fruit and veggies or any healthier options....alternatively, these are the poor neighborhoods and the people who live there couldn't afford the price of food that is better for them. It makes people desperate and confused, not to mention unhealthy in the mind, body, and soul.

[@SMW8816]

Honestly it’s more often a choice and mindset. We have to keep our grocery budget low and we do that my buying whole fruits and vegetables, oats, rice, beans, etc. Cereals and processed things are occasional treats. We never eat fast food because we cannot afford it.

[@rosecaron9905]

I agree with you. Losing 110lbs was the most self loving thing I've ever done. I don't understand how eating unhealthfully is considered self love when you're hurting your body. I am genuinely concerned for so many people caught up in the movement.

[@MoreSand12]

Water tok is "controversial" because they add a ridiculous amount of syrups to their drinks. A pump or 2 is understandable, but they're adding so much to the point to where it is almost equal parts syrup and water

[@khatdubell]

This. He keeps saying "zero calorie zero calorie" they _aren't_ even CLOSE to zero calories.

[@hausofphid3966]

They are often using syrups with sugar substitutes, so they very well may be zero calorie. However, zero calorie doesn't necessarily mean "healthy" or "good for you."

[@v2cantthinkofahandle]

The calorie-free syrup used to sweeten drinks or making unique drinks with interesting combinations isn’t a big deal at all. To me, though, the weird thing about "watertok" is the hyper consumerism & collectivism portion of it. It’s also not a huuuge deal since lots of people have their weird collections, but it’s still kind of odd, especially the huge collection of Stanley cups.

[@kaycollarfeild]

As a British person,squash (fruit consentrate), is all a lot of people drink. I drink 2 liters or more of water a day, only because I add squash to it. I have an ultra sound booked and the letter said please drink 2 pints of water or squash before hand ~ so personally I don't see anything wrong with the syrups ~ some sound tasty af

[@raaaaaaarr]

​@@kaycollarfeildisn't there tons of sugar in squash?? It's concentrated juice right?

[@kaycollarfeild]

@@raaaaaaarr it's bad but it's not really bad, I know it's not a lot of calories. Which is honestly all I care about. My dentist hasn't told me to stay away from it, just the fizzy drinks

[@morg2040]

@@raaaaaaarr most places sell a sugar-free dilute

[@nickl5658]

@@kaycollarfeild Drinking sugar water constantly and in such volumes keeps your blood sugar high. And a decade or two it is bad for your body... if you intend to live a long time. Also sugar is addictive... and drinking it constantly means sweet stuff becomes less enjoyable/tasty as you body has build up a resistance to sugar high... and you need to eat a lot of sugar just to feel the same level of sweetness.

[@honorcollins6962]

I can’t believe she mentioned ARFID!!! That’s my ED and I never EVER see anyone mentioning it!!!! I feel so seen I could cry with happiness

[@snoopygonewilder]

I don't mind people thinking I'm shallow for wanting to lose weight. I rather be thought of as shallow than dying before I'm 50 from a stroke because of hypertension which I developed because of my morbid obesity--I've lost 80 lbs in the last 7 months and have reversed hypertension and have gone off my medication. To be honest, while wanting to look more esthetically pleasing is a part of it, my biggest reason to lose weight, and why I even started to do it and started working out, was that I want to join the merchant marines, and I need to be in better shape for the training--which I previously failed out of because of my weight--Technically they will take me at any weight, they took me in at 293 lbs three years ago, but didn't have the strength or stamina to make it through the course. The second reason for wanting to lose weight for me is that I'm tired of feeling sick and tired, and depressed... and then of course, like I said, I just wanna look good, and wear nicer clothes... nothing wrong with that. Why is my happiness, and the happiness of people doing what I'm doing, or want to do, so triggering for the members of the body positivity community? They should mind their own damn business and think of their own happiness and leave other people alone to their happiness.

[@laroseblanche9435]

Good luck! Try again!

[@snoopygonewilder]

@@laroseblanche9435 Thanks. I was already accepted back into the program again.

[@laroseblanche9435]

@@snoopygonewilder yay im happy for ya.

[@Pugetwitch]

🎉🎉🎉❤

[@monkeygirl1894]

Congrats on your weightloss!

[@farrahp1569]

As a natural blonde person, I'm offended that they BLEACHED hair or WIGS in movies and shows. They should just get natural blondes to play all blonde people roles.

[@janehoe.]

I agree with this \._./

[@roetdq3120]

I'm sure you thought did something with this stupid ass comment lmao 😂😂

[@madtayows]

I had a literal dietitian tell me it was fat-phobic to want to lose weight and that me eating in a deficit (200-400 calls lower) is an eating disorder..............

[@heyjoe2182]

Hopefully you dropped that dietitian because wtf 😬

[@madtayows]

@@heyjoe2182 don’t worry I definitely didn’t go back after my consultation 🤣

[@janehoe.]

Hey some RDs (just like any other profession) suck. I hope you found help elsewhere

[@kateri35]

The nurse at my primary care office accused me of having a restrictive ED at my last appointment simply because over a 3 year period I have healthily lost 183lbs. I was 322lbs at my heaviest and am now 139lbs. I just eat mostly whole foods, count my calories, and include more activity. Literally not an ED at all. 😆

[@TyaColo]

It’s a sad society we live in where this behavior is rewarded. There is a market for dieticians or doctors that will play along with these people gaslighting themselves into thinking they’re healthy and therefore there’s nothing stopping them from filling that market outside of their own moral compass. And unfortunately to many, money is more important than morals.

[@misty0miss209]

I have to “restrict” my food in some form if I don’t I binge eat. I know what foods trigger my binging so I’ve found alternatives instead of ice cream I eat banana yogurt with some chocolate chips. I avoid chips because I can’t control how much I eat of them so I have popcorn flaming hot popcorn. I’m 4’11 and was 233 lbs now I’m 133 lbs I feel so much better I still eat bacon, steak, (nacho cheese once a week) etc but I have to avoid foods that lead to me being obese. I drink the flavor water but only one 8oz glass a day I love lemon, mint water

[@CJGelling]

It’s not my fault that I’m an alcoholic (started drinking young due to serious trauma and had zero control over stopping once I started drinking). But sobriety is MY responsibility . 3 year sober ❤

[@smp6565]

Congrats on your sobriety 🎉👏🏻👏🏻

[@solo_mattic]

It took me a while to unlearn the eating habits i learned from growing up poor. The food available to you is just so much worse. I knew nothing about diet and nutrition. Even in my 20s and working shit service industry jobs, the components of a healthy diet just werent accessible and i often relied on food at work to eat, which anyone who has worked in restaurants knows, isnt always the healthiest. But that didnt stop me from taking the time to learn as my circumstances got better.

[@scarlet12234]

The thing with "watertok" is that they aren't simply adding some flavoring. That I would still classify as water. Like a Crystal Light or a good squirt of Mio. They add so much stuff that there's no way it isn't just as bad for you as soda and has no business being called water. Zero calorie doesn't mean healthy, and it often doesnt even actually mean zero calorie. It can be under 5 calories per serving, I believe, and be labeled "zero calories."

[@elietahari7290]

This is the comment! A squirt or two of Mio is worlds different from 15 pumps of colored syrup in a cup. At the rate most of the water tok girlies are going they might as well shake a diet soda and let it sit til its flat cause that basically what they're drinking.

[@jinxed402]

I'm afraid for my joints and organs. I can always find cute styles. I will never find a new body. This one has to last!

[@Pugetwitch]

oh, Jon. every time I hear about childhood, I just think about how much you have taken care of your inner child and how much healing you have accomplished in your short life so far. You're totally inspiring. I'm 43 years old, what a ride so far. Life is such a roller coaster. keep on going up, dude. ❤🎉

[@Aceofwolves]

I grew up poor and in my young adult years i lived in poverty and had to go hungry many nights cause i dodnt have money for food. Having access to unlimited food is the REAL privlege.

[@Useernaamee]

Zoe is very hit or miss - last month she said a calorie deficit doesn't make you lose weight because people's body's are different and all this bs.. the video is called "We eat the same but look different" that's when I stopped watching her for now.

[@mummytrolls]

Yeah I’ve seen her spread some misinformation and omit information when discussing things. Like in this vid she talks about fat acceptance originally bringing light to the unfair treatment of fat people but omits the fact that the organization that did that was also majorly into fetishing fat people and feederism. In fact the normal weight/thin guys were only really advocating for fat women cuz they hated feeling ashamed of loving fat woman and wanted their fetish to be normalized. One guy even compared loving fat women to being gay in that he felt super discriminated against for it (which is just wrong guys who love fat women aren’t treated like gay men in the 60s AT ALL and never have been). They had conventions for the fetish, forums, magazines with BBWs, a dating service, etc. She omits all of that cuz either she didn’t properly research or she knows it’d look bad to admit that NAAFA the original fat acceptance advocates were fetishists.

[@mackenstood]

@@mummytrolls yeah, then it goes into kink shaming.😮 It never ends…

[@problemperson4221]

i used to sub to her too and unsubbed cuz of misinformation. i love her videos about social media and body image but wow does she spread so much misinfo about weight. she comes off as a very smart person and it kinda feels like shes intentionally withholding information because it refutes her point.

[@Enkye_CA]

I’m late to this party but she’s 100% taking advantage of the “self-acceptance” audience. She’s just saying what they want to hear and it’s fucked up.

[@arkdova2710]

I will never forget the winter (it was also the last REAL cold winter in my country) where we had to scrape through very cheap bags of bread, and separate the not moldy dry ones from the moldy to eat anything at all. I've lost a ton of muscle that winter, my body composition was really hard to recover. Having decent amount of money is half the success to diet, being outright rich must make it super easy compared.

[@ladydaisy9818]

Honestly people should love their bodies enough to take care of it. Damaging your body is not loving it

[@whimsy0451]

How healthy eating and physical maintenance became self-loathing I'll never understand

[@matthewfranklin2137]

I had anorexia nervosa and now I have ARFID and seeing them wield my condition as a way to justify a bad diet is so hard man. My hair is falling out. My skin won’t heal at all. I have a cut on my leg that has been healing for months bc my food intake is awful. I can’t keep weight on and they basically act like anyone who restricts anything has the full blown ED. And I still struggle to find medical care for my ARFID. it’s so hard.

[@CJGelling]

Also wow ❤ as a sober alcoholic I relate to you. I was completely ok with dying by 30 bc I had severe mental issues, looked horrible, drank vodka out of a water bottle all day and couldn’t see life without it. I was sick bloated and binge eating too. Heaviest I’ve ever been. I felt I was worth nothing/ no one would ever be attracted to me and I need alcohol to get by… when I got sober I got lean as hell! Became attractive to people! I work on my issues daily or I’d relapse . Sort of like gaining weight and not caring again. So many parallels !!!

[@jjj4n4]

regarding the fat suit discussion: Please bear with me, I might not explain it the best, English is not my first language I feel like if you're portraying someone so sick that they're dying, you won't hire someone who's actually dying. They just won't be in a condition to do it. Same with the fat suit thing. 500+ lb person is not in a condition to go on a set and do all those hours...

[@expensivepink7]

Your English is great. And I completely agree with you.

[@robintisabird1566]

I just remember being really angry that my school would sometimes only offer water with artificial sweeteners, so I preferred not to drink water at all! to me, that’s not water, that’s sweetened water. I got over it many years later when I really needed Gatorade in my life lol.

[@linziesantana4748]

I’ll never be able to get behind eating whatever you want whenever you want is “self-love” Making sure you get nutrients such as vitamins, minerals, protein and healthy fats is GOOD for your body…eating healthy is self-care

[@melissabee5845]

Someone with an actual eating disorder I can say that restrictive eating and healthy eating are not the same thing. At one time I was 109 lbs (I’m 5’7 and 31 years old) and I would eat 800-1200 calories a day and be sure to burn almost all calories I consumed. Also, I’ve come leaps and bounds with my eating. I have gained weight (I’m 123 lbs now) and I eat foods I would have NEVER eaten before outside of a binge. So progress 🙌

[@middleofnowhere1313]

Sounds like you are doing great :)

[@MusikGirl23]

Good for ya! I nearly died from anorexia, it’s not an easy path to claw back from.

[@elietahari7290]

I understood what she meant about the water toks replacing food. Not only are some people using the flavored "waters" to stay full and not eat but I've seen a few that said if they're craving birthday cake for instance they will make a birthday cake flavored " water" to obtain from eating the real thing. So it comes across as a " meal " replacement.

[@Isiahspiciah]

How does one make a birthday cake flavored water they are pushing it 😭😭😭

[@Adeltraut]

Such replacement foods are on the rise everywhere, but still people are not getting any slimmer on average. There where no low fat products in the 50s and 60s and still the overweight health issues didn't have such a pressuring dimension as of today.

[@expensivepink7]

This same girl had a crazy video with so much misinformation regarding weight loss so she’s kinda poisoned her own well for me a bit

[@2003Sillygirl]

You can disagree with what somebody says while agreeing with other stuff they say

[@khatdubell]

"maybe i'm missing something" Yeah, you're missing the fact that they are painting a veneer of "healthy" over it while while drinking 600+ calories of sugar syrup. Its not water, its flat soda at that point.

[@gayfield420]

the syrups are called "skinny syrups" and have 0 calories, that's probably why they're so popular.

[@khatdubell]

@@gayfield420 Some of them, and some of them are using simply flavor packets, but others are using straight sugar syrup pumps.

[@khatdubell]

@@gayfield420 19:55 left panel. Those are full sugar syrups.

[@khatdubell]

@@gayfield420 20:08 left panel. Full sugar syrup.

[@2003Sillygirl]

He’s talking about the 0cal ones and also those are obviously not healthier than water but if you’re a person who struggles to drink water than it’s a better option than soda (and I would argue it’s even better than diet soda) meaning that it is healthy in that regard

[@Goonerette75]

One doesn't need a great deal of money to take care of themselves. The issue with the Fat Acceptance movement is that they make every excuse known in order to stay unhealthy.

[@stevanboi5980]

i learned that too from kayla shaye's video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ2UeJhrrqmDers and i do wanna add that while the FA movement is really uneducated regarding how a person can transition to a healthier lifestyle in some way, it's still important that people in poverty still have more food choices than just canned beans, a few spices, and rice or whatever at the dollar store and also have nearby grocery stores that are affordable too (especially in food deserts)

[@atramentalistkoan]

Wow, my perception of what is fat looks like has shifted so much. Fat Amy isn't Fat Amy anymore, she's Small Fat Amy.

[@catherinebean2305]

You talk so much sense and have a compassionate reasoning which makes your videos so enjoyable.

[@DancingMangoTV]

From what I’ve heard, the whole watertok thing is more that people are arguing that if you add a bunch of stuff to water it’s no longer water, it’s more like non carbonated soda. So it’s more of like a technicality I guess

[@marissariley7319]

11:25 god I see this all the time in the weight loss subs on Reddit. You can’t complain about how annoying the journey can be sometimes or post your salad without someone screaming “too restrictive!! You have an ED!!!” It’s so counterproductive, does nothing to prevent eating disorders, spreads misinformation on healthy weight loss, and just shames people into not changing.

[@wildmanken1236]

I love your take on the fat acceptance community & would like to ask a question. My son is obese & I would to encourage him to lose weight. I talked to him about it twice but he asked me not to talk to him about it & I don’t how to approach the issue without nagging him.

[@lauriehand1021]

Bariatric patient here. The reason I flavor my water now, is I can’t keep plain water down now. 6 months out from surgery and I still struggle. Water is the only thing that makes me throw up

[@bethrocks]

i love that you are giving your take on this, especially since you HAVE been obese before and know the other side of this all.

[@hannahb9195]

My brain interprets a lot of food as inedible and repulsive. When I am stressed, it becomes worse, but it is always scary and upsetting to know my life could be in danger because my neurodifference makes feeding myself exhausting and painful. I will be in tears, trying to eat enough to live. I can't get the right nutrients and get sick often. My joints and hair are a mess and my skin flakes off. Being 'accused' and shamed for this and called privileged just makes it even harder. People say "I would love to forget to eat" and think it's a flex. If I talk about it or don't cover my body I am 'promoting an ED' , even though it's a nurological condition that I work really hard to manage and don't see as positive in any way

[@sincerelymarika]

I don’t understand the hate water tok gets. I’ve added flavor to my water for years because it tastes better, and when I saw people making fun flavor combos on tik tok, i really enjoyed the fun content. I never thought it would be controversial lol. And sure, some people are relating it to weight loss (although not everyone), but I haven’t seen anyone advocate for it as a meal replacement?? Not even as subtext or anything. I think people just find the idea of flavored water gross and can’t deal with the fact that something they see as unnecessary is getting popular. Idk.

[@cosodesign8953]

I think is more so has to do with the fact that these mixes aren’t actually good for you and drinking them with water isn’t as healthy as people think it is. But if it makes you drink water, more power to you. I think 50 years from now we will probably see more of the health consequences of artificial foods and sweeteners but until then people will continue to believe that they are solid alternatives.

[@BoringTroublemaker]

It’s because people like to be outraged and judgmental about things that don’t affect them whatsoever. Everyone has to have an opinion about what other people do with their bodies. Interestingly, it’s been shown through the research that people are most judgmental towards people in situations where they are already struggling And they feel as though they are doing better than the person they are judging. It’s simply a means of soothing their own insecurity.

[@karantha333]

For me, it's sugar. I'm allergic to Equal, so I use Splenda for everything. Waist Watcher soda made by Adirondack is the one soda made with Splenda. I quit sugar a few months ago and after a couple weeks I noticed I was sleeping better, had more energy, etc. Stupid me gave in, and started doing sugar again, and started feeling like crap again. Just quit sugar again, although I allow myself one or two hard candies a day. I can eliminate them slowly. It's hard to ignore the cravings, but at least now I recognize them as cravings. I quit cigarettes cold turkey in 2004, I can beat sugar, too

[@b.r.v.8609]

Just curious do you eat things with natural sugars like fruit?

[@karantha333]

@@b.r.v.8609 yes, right now I'm not worried about natural sugars, just processed sugar, white, brown, powdered, etc. I also try to limit carbs, too.

[@melchiorlise2466]

​@@karantha333 I'm doing the same thing ! The only thing I allow myself is muffins with Stevia once a week.

[@diolanda8570]

The water talk "big deal" is that people still call it water even tho some of their potions can be calculated to have over 200 calories. So there are people like me, who disagree with the term "water" because it has so many extra chemicals that we no longer consider it water. Some of the drinks can get up to 300 calories or more.

[@slavbarbie]

Right, I thought it wasn't just flavouring.

[@slavbarbie]

It also looks artificial and disgusting with all the colouring added

[@oliviastratton2169]

Yeah, it's just a sweet beverage at that point. Like juice or soda. If you want a treat, go for it. But don't pretend it's water. It's like putting a bunch of candy in a bowl and calling it a "salad".

[@hannahmacdonald9040]

I think I like body positivity because it says love your body for what it is, not just what it looks like. I am a healthy weight, I eat balanced and I exercise daily and I used to be overweight a few years ago but I lost weight and my body still doesn't look like the 'ideal' and it shouldn't have to. Wanting to lose weight for your health, well-being and longevity is not a negative but I do believe if you are losing weight simply to achieve one certain body type thats where it can get sketchy and studies show you're less likely to keep the weight off if thats your sole goal. Being completely obese though, thats just not helpful to your life, mental health and wellbeing so we shouldn't be demonising weight loss when it is necessary. Just my two cents.

[@walkingadventureswithLILY]

I think there is a big difference between adding some crystal light flavoring and the ridiculous amount of syrups some put in their drinks. I think they have just taken it to the next level. This is why I think it is controversial.

[@kodakoala]

Well it's controversial because at a certain point it's not water they're making it into basically a zero or low calorie soda. They're adding a ton of chemicals and they're all doing it to push products and that's where it's disgusting to me. It's all another fake bs

[@middleofnowhere1313]

a tbsp of lemon or lime juice and some monk fruit sweetener (or whichever you pick) works great also :D

[@Moose92411]

And they call it water. I can't understand why people don't call things what they are, that they just need to feel like they're not abusing their bodies, so they just say it's water.

[@aleyahmalone5012]

30:35 because she's skinny other people tell her that she is lucky and should love.the skin she's in. The guilt is a messed up thing. Because it's her body and her perspective

[@elenik845]

I like how zoe talks about healthy when so many of her vlogs are about weight loss, eating 1200kcal and being underweight. I'm not trying to diss her but her goal is definitely not being healthy. But being super skinny. She's literally the opposite side of the spectrum.

[@kristin7762]

So happy you’re still here at 30 ❤️❤️❤️

[@katesicle]

Even if something bad happens to you, the only person who can fix it is you. It might be unfair that it happened and that you have to be the one to fix it but there’s no one else. This is true for a lot of things in life.

[@diandriasmith889]

Absolutely

[@alissadiaz7173]

The problem with watertok (for me) is....when does it stop being water and it's just diluted syrup? And I say that as someone who used to drink 3-4 Dr. Peppers a day in lieu of water and now drink maybe 1 a day and the rest is water (I love my Dr. Pepper what can I say) and the water I drink is pretty much always flavored with Mio because I really can't stand plain old water. I think something about putting so many syrups and powders in water is unnerving to some (including me) even if they're 0cal.

[@This_MightBe_Unc]

My son is around 10 years old and he works his ASS OFF about losing weight, for being over weight at such a young age. Hes around 104 pounds while going into 5th grade. And i can very proudly say he has more of a strong mindset about losing weight then 70% of the TikTok fat positivity community.

[@maggies88]

I remember this one man who was definitely from a lower-income background was in a food court and telling his daughter not to be greedy. I loved hearing him teach her that. I wish I had been taught that. Were they eating highest quality food? Not at the time. But he was teaching her to eat enough not more than enough. A person from any background can learn that and control their weight.

[@brithneynewberry]

basically water talk isn’t just about artificial sweeteners like crystal light basically people are taking syrups that we use for coffee at starbucks and adding it to their water with those crystal lights and artificial sweeteners and that’s why they are gaining weight it’s not just the small packets it’s like copious amounts of extra syrups to the point your water isn’t even water anymore it’s juice

[@KittyScythe]

My weight is the result of emotional neglect, abuse, and CSA. Healing my relationship with food, and my body, has been the most terrifying, harrowing, and wonderful thing I have ever done for myself. 75 lbs down so far.

[@pnwgirl4]

I mean in a way losing weight is a form of restriction, but restriction itself isn't an issue, it's over-restriction and a lot of fat acceptance people don't seem to understand the difference. There are just some things we need to restrict in life for our overall wellbeing. When I see those videos of fat women (not derogatory as it's the word they want to be called) eating whatever they want all day every day because it feels good and calling it self-love, it really just reminds me of addict behavior, like this is what it looks like if you give in to your addiction. If I lived my life completely unrestricted with no regard for health I would be smoking half a pack of cigarettes and drinking 5 glasses of wine every day because those things feel good to me in the moment. Like comparing to the Virgie Tovar cake incident, imagine if I got mad and made a video about how people having only one glass of wine at a party is rude and harmful to people who decide to drink an entire bottle, or getting mad at someone because they didn't want to vape with me. Pretty much everyone would agree that would be preposterous.

[@mamadawn3171]

We would have missed Monica from friends in a fat suit. That would have been a tragedy. 😂

[@kwest5171]

In one of the clips, a woman says "I'm fat and I don't eat healthy". Like, that's just a flat out admission of apathy about your health.

[@janehoe.]

Skinny people literally will binge drink and do cocaine. Like.. Clearly caring about health isn't a requirement

[@starlette7820]

It isnt just tiktok, it's also twitter and basically all social media. There is no grey area for them, everything is either black or white, good or bad. That's why they're so quick to sling labels like racist and fatphobic at people without a second thought over literally nothing. Like someone drew Ariel's cartoon form in a scene from the movie because she loved how the scene looked and wanted to see what cartoon Ariel would look like in it, and they got called a racist?? Like wtf lmao

[@chucksellers8422]

If Brendan Fraser would have gained 300 lbs, he would have had a great chance of dying. He had already almost killed himself going to the other extreme. His health is more important than FAs feelings.

[@kricket8801]

Never heard of the restrictive/avoidance e.d. but that honestly explains so much for me and my mom

[@docouchi7929]

I don’t know why this lady talking down to us…. Gives me a confused vibe about that chick

[@SmokenHash]

I want to participate in Watertok but I can't eat artificial sweeteners. Lol Maybe I'll just do really aesthetic fruit infused waters.

[@hannahbunny2773]

YES fruit infused water or do smoothies >:)

[@kristenshafer2262]

I recently discovered your channel and have been watching all of your videos. I really enjoy your view on things and just find you an overall likable person. I've always been a yoyo dieter/exerciser, and watching you has definitely helped me not be so hard on myself. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@pearlrose2]

I love that sleeping charmander plushie in the background

[@wallhagens2001]

I’m always seeking to do better and be better. It’s not about self-hate. It’s about recognizing that I could do better and be better. It’s about growth.

[@netteloveszebras]

Okay I think part of the uproar is that it’s not water anymore once the we’ve done all that to it. If we do so little as put dried leaves in water, we don’t call it water anymore, its new name is Tea not “leaf water of the day”. They are making juice and calling it water. Zero sugar juices! And in some cases, not even zero sugar. It’s not water.

[@Moose92411]

It's so strange to me that people seem to just NEED to be offended by something. They just cannot feel right about the world if there isn't something that's been said that offends them to no end. Imagine CHOOSING to be offended, rather than choosing to be happy with yourself.

[@gypsylee333]

FOR REAL I AM SO SICK OF SNOWFLAKES

[@whimsy0451]

Rage attracts more "likes" than praise. Same psychology as bad news selling more papers than good news imo

[@og666]

as an arfid adjacent picky eater, there are ways to still eat healthy. i drink a lot of soylent which isn't for everyone (but do have an occasional ice-cream-for breakfast-esque day) but if you're staying at a healthy calorie count and eating some fiber you'll be fine.

[@thuggie1]

I have always had problems with how I look, and I still do from my eyes nose the length of limbs, I have learnt to try and not fixate on it. I also go to a psychologist about it, which has been beneficial. This has helped me with my over eating as well.

[@acatnamedm4529]

I was also confused by the water controversy. I've put a bit of stevia blueberry drops in my water. Soda and juice is too sweet but sometimes I want a fruity drink. Is someone really calling this food?

[@ZTanMURReneRs]

There's nothing wrong with adding calorie free(or near enough) flavours to water to help you drink enough. I will say as someone who likes water I feel like you're ruining it if you never drink nice cold water without added flavours but hey that's a personal thing. ;)

[@piau1798]

16:41 Caroline winkler has a very good video about what I eat in a days, it’s called „the uncomfortable truth“ or something

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

Agree with the excessive shaming of "restriction"....for me it's less worse to restrict poor nutritional quality and be able to not worry if I will be able to go out for hours long hikes, not needing to think a minute whether I can fit in chairs at restaurants or other places. Or seats in an aircraft or an amusement parks. And not needing to whine over not being able to find the right size of the clothes I want to purchase.

[@maeahem]

The watertok thing, she came at it from a weird angle, but I’ve seen another video where it was explained better on all sides. The lady who started it had bariatric surgery and uses it to get her water in, as do a huge percentage of watertok. However, with TikTok trends, a lot of it focuses on the “collection” of sugar free calorie packets and syrups and the Stanley cups. The amount and over production of some 😅 and it’s great that it’s working for you , but some doctors have said it might lead to just wanting more actual sugar and calories for some. But other doctors recommend it to patients to get water in any which way, so for some it balances it out. I know most people are just weirded out by the concept of calling it water, and on social media with short attention span aren’t going to dig any further so they’re irritated. It’s the new pumpkin spice latte girls and mostly harmless. Let them have fun with their drinks like others post their food. Anyway, great video and I love your points and view from another perspective. Been watching for years, and always interested to hear your tales and whatever you share with us. Keep up the maxing work 😊

[@thevanessarosette]

Love this comment!! Yes to everything! Lol

[@slippypippy]

Plus just calling it flavored water is easier than saying water with this flavor and this flavor and this flavor 😅

[@Doe3Love8]

I can not describe the excitement I get when I see ur uploaded ❤✨️

[@whimsy0451]

It was inevitable that social media influencers would court the growing demographic of obese individuals. The power in, "Hey, they look and behave like me." is massively understated.

[@Yum_buttercup]

I think when it comes to the water tok issue, it’s good that those artificial flavors help people who struggle with drinking plain water. If it helps people not drink sodas or sweet drinks I say that’s a good thing but it should also just be a step to get them used to drinking regular water. The more you add something to your diet and everyday life, the more used you’ll get to it. That should be the goal.

[@earvase]

My only problem with the “water influencers”. Is it being their whole personality. Because I go in between doing just water and the drink mixes.

[@wallhagens2001]

Developing nuanced thinking requires a longer format than Tik Tok.

[@sus4nah]

Thanks for breaking this video down bc I cannot follow her when she talks lol she doesn’t get her point across clearly at all ever

[@Debtfeeling]

Thank you for the reaction, this topic is something I've been dealing with lately, trying to find balance between losing weight and enjoying life, and I was scared that I would go from one extreme to another. I'm in no way obese or even overweight at this point (150 elbees at 5'6), but I've been working on body recomposition as my DEXA scan said I'm 41,1% body fat. My right arm is actually over 50% fat, no way this is right. I even had a conversation with a therapist about being worried to go from mindless eating to eating way too mindfully, and their answer was that moderation is key, and there's nothing wrong about tracking and knowing what you put in your body, because complete lack of control is what made me unhealthy in the first place. I realized I cannot just eat whatever I feel like in any quantities if I want to get fit. Especially when it comes to prepackaged items, cause if you don't look at the labels you have no clue how much of this and that there is. And our satiety cues are completely messed up from all the processed stuff. It's so easy to over eat in terms of calories even when the portion itself is tiny, because sure it's delicious, but there's been a lot of stuff added to make it that way. Also, portion sizes. A petite woman should not eat the same as her 6'4" tall significant other, but I see that happening very often, that happened to me twice in a relationship. I gained weight because I was eating just as much as the guy whether it was home cooked or at a restaurant. And it never even occurred to me until recently how careless this is. If I don't take into account the amounts, it's all going to end the same way. Minding your portion sizes and nutritional value of food according to TDEE and not giving in to any random craving you have is not restriction, that's giving your body exactly the amount of energy it needs without storing extra. Sorry for the rant, haha. Also I personally think the image of a "regular" body has very much shifted. That's why these days "smaller" people are often accused of undereating. Like, for some reason if you're not a proud carrier of love handles, that automatically means you're restricting your food too much. I've studied the behavior of a few "naturally skinny" people I personally know. Dude, those are some interesting creatures with fascinating habits. Food is fuel to them and I am amazed at how the process of eating does not correlate to emotions for them in any way. That's a concept I'm unfamiliar with.

[@mikepolo2887]

5”3 girl here. I eat the same as the guys around me, always ashamed of the quantities… My bmi has never been above 18 =\\

[@Debtfeeling]

@@mikepolo2887 There's so many things that go into this equation for every single person. I don't know anyone here personally, so I can't tell how active anyone is or how calorie dense their foods are, so I can't compare. I've just seen people have changes in their lives that led to weight gain or weight loss without them being able to figure out why it happened. A male colleague of mine had baby twins a while ago and because of the lack of sleep he started gaining. Turns out he's just been grazing mindlessly all day and night without realizing it. I believe in CICO and there's just too many factors that affect it, especially the CO part, and it's very different from person to person.

[@darlahays2471]

One of the best suggestions that I could give you as a "naturally" skinny, is to eat as much whole foods as possible and as few processed. Try not snack. Also, I try to think before I eat, am I hungry or bored? I get a glass of water a piece of fruit and think about things that need to be done. If I am still hungry in say 30 minutes then I'll have something to eat. I hope this helps and doesn't sound like judgement. Blessed Be 💜

[@Debtfeeling]

@@darlahays2471 Thank you, that's exactly what I've been doing for the past 3 weeks and I'm down over 6 pounds. I realized a lot of things about food and portions, for example, that I'm actually not as picky as I thought, and that a well balanced plate is sometimes way more satisfying than any hyper palatable fast food item. I used to grab whatever I could, and "whatever" is high in fat and sugar in many cases.

[@mikepolo2887]

@@Debtfeeling this is absolutely true, CICO works, but the balance is so intricate that it can result in measurably different energy expenditure in seemingly similar people.

[@abby-xo7kf]

It’s so hard for people to concept that some people like and CHOOSE healthy food bc they enjoy it😭😭😭😭

[@monkeygirl1894]

I cant even call it self love if you accept being overweight. Its good to be comfortable with how you look, but being overweight is so detrimental to your health. You want to do the best for your body so you can feel your best. Im not as self conscious about my body as i used to be (i still am somewhat, as im still overweight), and that only helped me try to lose the weight so that my body starts to physically feel better.

[@smp6565]

I remember when that whole "intuitive eating" concept became a thing. At that point I'd already lost a lot of weight and I remember laughing when hearing that. My friend asked why and even now years later, at a healthy weight, intuitive eating will never work for me. If I'd do that, I'd intuitively stuff my face with pasta, cake and chocolate all day😅

[@amyb7823]

I just love this man. I haven't watched him in a while but I clicked on this video and now I remember why. Seems like such a good guy. Handsome too.

[@mummytrolls]

My take: no matter what your diet is like somebody is going to judge and criticize you for it so only post about your diet if you’re prepared for comments like these. You don’t have to interact with them, but if you’re super sensitive and can’t handle comments on your diet don’t post about it. It’s your responsibility. This is part of why I never understood why people in early ED recovery post about their diet. Especially when they start crying and getting into heated arguments about it. If you can’t handle comments and criticism, don’t post your diet. Is someone a jerk for leaving a rude comment? Yeah they shouldn’t do that but you gotta understand you can’t control the actions of others you can only control your response to it.

[@ThePastelCowgirl]

Thanks for not jumping on the watertok hate bandwagon. It's such a completely mundane thing for people to be getting so upset about, especially since people on tic tok share themselves doing far more random and boring things than mixing water.

[@rebelmindset6312]

People hate for TikTok is strange. TikTok has the best algorithm of all the social media platforms. Whatever you watch or like. Those type of videos will be on your feed. If all you do is watch fat positive videos. That’s want will show on your feed. I’ve never seen a dance video on TikTok because I don’t watch them. People are choosing to be triggered. TikTok is no different to Instagram or Facebook.

[@quix689]

Thank you - I so don't understand the hatred of watertok that I've been seeing everywhere. I like adding flavors because it helps me drink more water than I would normally. The only time it replaces food is when I know I'm not actually hungry but still want something sweet. (I'll still eat the sweet thing if I'm actually hungry)

[@elidao2591]

Adding powders to water to be able to drink water I guess its ok, my only concern its the chemicals in those flavorfull powders, that's all

[@manuelochoa9266]

Following advice from Tiktok is like asking an alcoholic how to stop drinking alcohol. The problem is that young people go there and believe those videos!

[@jaymeelaws1139]

I don’t know why people care so much about Watertok. Let people live their lives. I like a drink packet (although I dilute them a lot more, like 24 oz to one packet) and watching some of those concoctions does indeed look pretty gross to me. But hey, I’m not drinking it. Pretty sure we have bigger things to worry about 🥴

[@NavigatorMother]

'I may not be responsible for my disease, but that doesn't mean that I am not responsible for my recovery.' ~An Old AA Quote. Your Balance. Your education. Your body. You are your own best patient case manager- start educating yourself about yourself. That's a part of how you start caring for You - your early inner child who desperately needs it - with more worth .

[@Aceofwolves]

We restrict EVERYTHING else in life. We dont watch tv for 12 hours a day. We dont sleep 17 hours a day. We dont drink a liter of booze a day. There is NOTHING wrong with food rules unless they are interfering with QOL or causing physical or mental problems. Humans like routine and structure

[@SationalCyn]

I think one thing that people need to understand is that everybody’s allowed to feel the way that they want to feel about their own body. That was a hard one for me when I was extremely overweight and I would have a friend who was thin complain about their problem areas or say that they were fat. I would always think Wow if they think that about themselves then what do they think of me.

[@elalogar7340]

The fact that she's complaining to you; she's either too self-absorbed or she sees you as you, not your body. I'm not thin. I wear S, M and L. Depends on the model of clothes. I have a friend who wears XXL. I don't see her as fat, as just see her as her. For the longest time I thought she wore size L, and then she reminded me: "How can I wear L, when you yourself like to wear L jumpers." Oh. And I do complain about my weight. I gain 3-4 kg and because of my body-type half of my pants doesn't fit me any more. I also occasionally jog, and a kilo or two of weight really makes a difference.

[@blackopskingnumber1]

The problem with watertok isnt anything about calories. Its when people think that because its "water" they can drink as much of it as they want, forgetting that they added 4 packs of powder and 10 pumps of syrup to it. Its not water at all anymore.

[@supererikman5331]

Also they forget cases where the character in the movie loses weight, movie studios are not going to have the time and patience for a fat actor to lose weight in a healthy way which can take years for some people, thus why they will use a fat suit

[@OmahaTonyG]

The lady in that video is naturally thin. I do not like that a person who has never even been overweight chimes in on the topic of obesity. They have no perspective. “I weigh 110 pounds and have never been overweight/obese, here is my expert opinion on the subject..”

[@courtneywitherspoon8584]

I do not understand the watertok hate. I honestly think it's just the girlies online judging other girlies. Its dumb. I love the drink mixes because theyre zero or 5 calories.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

I think her attempts occasionally detract from her message.